WEBVTT - Operation Epic Fury: A Progress Report

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<v Speaker 1>iTunes and Hillsdale. Welcome back and medon hughes Hewett joined

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<v Speaker 1>by United States Senator Tom Cotton. He is a Republican

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<v Speaker 1>from Arkansas. I when it's primary easily last week. He

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<v Speaker 1>is also the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee and

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<v Speaker 1>chair of the House Republican Conference. Senator, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us. Before you were a senator, you were a congressman.

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<v Speaker 1>Before you were a congressman, you were a soldier. He

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<v Speaker 1>is fought in iraqiught in Afghanistan, and you served with

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<v Speaker 1>the Old Guard at Arlington. So the seven US Army

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers who've been killed in this combat have I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>near and dear to you. What do you assess the

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<v Speaker 1>war as? How is it going? Given the casualties we've

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<v Speaker 1>had and expect.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Hugh and and I join all our kansons and

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<v Speaker 2>grieving for those seven heroes who were killed and wishing

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<v Speaker 2>our best condolences and sending prayers to their families.

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<v Speaker 3>But they have not died in vain.

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<v Speaker 4>This is an.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely vital and necessary war against a revolutionary terror supporting

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<v Speaker 2>country that's been killing Americans for forty seven years, to

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<v Speaker 2>include maiming and killing thousands of other soldiers who served

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<v Speaker 2>in Afghanistan back in the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>I did so.

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<v Speaker 2>We always grieved the loss of our heroes on the battlefield,

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<v Speaker 2>but this war was vitally necessary, and so far our

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<v Speaker 2>brave and skillful troops have been met with smashing success.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw the briefing that Admiral Cooper dave last week

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<v Speaker 2>that gave you the best information you can know about

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<v Speaker 2>the successes so far, which is Iranian raids of fire

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<v Speaker 2>have collapsed from the first days of the conflict. That

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<v Speaker 2>means we've been extraordinarily successful in destroying their missiles, their drones,

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<v Speaker 2>and their launchers, which was one of the very top

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<v Speaker 2>objectives in this campaign. Obviously, he continues will continue to

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<v Speaker 2>target those forces, their navy, their communications, the regime thugs

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<v Speaker 2>like the Seas militias, the Cuds force, the Revolutionary Guard

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<v Speaker 2>core that spread and foments revolutionary violence and terror and

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<v Speaker 2>oppress their own people. There's still more work to be done,

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<v Speaker 2>But a week and a half in, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it could be going better for our brave and skillful troops.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah cottin ten days in. We also now have a

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<v Speaker 1>new Supreme leader. How many two point zero or at

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<v Speaker 1>least half of how many two point zero is said

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<v Speaker 1>that he had been seriously wounded in the attacks thus far.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a break with Homini, the founder of the

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<v Speaker 1>regime's theology. The fanatics said we should not have hereditary

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<v Speaker 1>succession for Supreme leader. I think that causes stresses inside

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<v Speaker 1>of the regime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you hear, You're right about that. There's always been

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<v Speaker 2>always in the official position that the Supreme leader role

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<v Speaker 2>should not be hereditariat be selected by the so called

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<v Speaker 2>assembly of experts, who are having tough time assembling right

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<v Speaker 2>now in peace and quiet thanks to the United States

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<v Speaker 2>and Israel. But I can't help but imagine it does

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<v Speaker 2>cause some internal dissension and rivalry within the ranks of

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<v Speaker 2>the senior leaders of Iran who oppose out on ideological

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<v Speaker 2>grounds or perhaps on personal grounds. And that about you

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<v Speaker 2>right now, I don't care how radical and fanatical. And

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<v Speaker 2>I tell a lie I was, I'm not sure i'd

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<v Speaker 2>want that job title. Well, the US and Iran is

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<v Speaker 2>still owning the skies above Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Another the Admiral gave and update on the sinkings last

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<v Speaker 1>week that is now out of date because another one

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<v Speaker 1>occurred today or two occurred today. Open Source Center. Do

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<v Speaker 1>we know anything about their underwater navy? That had five

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<v Speaker 1>regular submarines diesels, at least one of which has been sunk,

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<v Speaker 1>But they had a lot of submersibles and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we have pH flying out there. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about that? What can you tell us about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do have sizeable naval forces. Now they're what

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<v Speaker 2>you and I and most Americans might call more of

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<v Speaker 2>a coastguard. A lot of these ships, to include some

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<v Speaker 2>of those submersible as you mentioned, are smaller. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>them are autonomous. They're not designed to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>blue blue water seas, to design for the Persian Gulf

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<v Speaker 2>and the Straight of Four Moves, And it's one of

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<v Speaker 2>our objectives as well, to think their entire navy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not as urgent objective because they can't project They usually

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<v Speaker 2>can't project power against our bases or against our friends

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<v Speaker 2>in the Middle East. That's why the missiles and the

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<v Speaker 2>drones and the launchers were the first objective, because we

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<v Speaker 2>needed to take those out to protect our troops and

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<v Speaker 2>to protect our friends in the region. But in the end,

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<v Speaker 2>I expect to see Iron's navy at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean, so they can't continue to threaten shipping fubustraight

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<v Speaker 2>of for Moose.

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<v Speaker 1>All right now, Sarah, I want to turn to funding

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<v Speaker 1>the combat. It's been expensive, It's going to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>be expensive. We had a big plus up in the

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<v Speaker 1>defense build, but we need more. And I was asked

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<v Speaker 1>by Brian Kilmead last night, what about its elemental I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it gets sixty votes, given that the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>are turning into part of the appeasement, could a second

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<v Speaker 1>reconciliation that focused narrowly on the Department of War actually

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<v Speaker 1>make it through the House and the Senate always possible?

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<v Speaker 2>With you, I wouldn't necessarily rule out a supplemental bill,

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<v Speaker 2>although you're right the Democrats amazingly at a time when

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<v Speaker 2>no one else in the world is supporting a rime,

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<v Speaker 2>not even their former quasi allies like guitar or Oman

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<v Speaker 2>or Turkey. The one group left it supporting a rime

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<v Speaker 2>in this conflict and rooting for their success. SMS to

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<v Speaker 2>be the Democratic Party. But there's no question that after

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<v Speaker 2>this war concludes ns operas a Trump statement today that

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<v Speaker 2>it may include sooner rather than later, because they're even

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of their timetables. There's going to be need to

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<v Speaker 2>be some kind of additional defense spending, especially to replace

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<v Speaker 2>the very expensive, very high end long range stand on

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<v Speaker 2>munitions that we used in the first twenty four to

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<v Speaker 2>seventy two hours, things like Patriot and fat missile defense interceptors,

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<v Speaker 2>prison missiles, Tomahawk missiles and such things. We need that

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<v Speaker 2>not just because of this conflict, but we've always needed

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more of it because of the conflict in

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine and the ter China from going for the jug

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<v Speaker 2>dealer in Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you about Cuba center, since it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a light with fires and revolt in the last few days,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think is our plan for our island's neighbor.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, you're breaking up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think is the plan for Cuba, which

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<v Speaker 1>has had revolution in the streets in the last few nights.

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<v Speaker 2>What did Doesident Trump say about it last week? Voluntary

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<v Speaker 2>transfer or along those lines easal handover look, Cuba has

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<v Speaker 2>never been able to support itself since the Castro Revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>For around thirty years, they had supportive Soviet Russia. Soviet

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<v Speaker 2>Russia provided them financial ACoM support, They provided the shock

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<v Speaker 2>troops for communist insurgencies in Latin America and Africa. They

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<v Speaker 2>were on the ropes in the nineteen nineties up to

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<v Speaker 2>the collapse of the Soviet Union. But then Hugo shaves

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<v Speaker 2>through my lifeline in the late nineteen nineties and ever since,

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<v Speaker 2>Venezuela has been propping up the cast Grow regime. In return,

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<v Speaker 2>they provided security to the Chavistas in Venezuela, although that

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<v Speaker 2>security proved not to be very helpful during the Maduro

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<v Speaker 2>raid when a lot of Cubans were up dead. On

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<v Speaker 2>the objective, I think without that support from Venezuela, Cubans

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<v Speaker 2>government and really to its entire economy just seizes up

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<v Speaker 2>in a matter of minds, And I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>the President is talking about, like literally, they can't survive

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<v Speaker 2>without that support from Venezuela. So I would imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>there are people in Havannah right now, imagine thinking of

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<v Speaker 2>themselves as the Velz Rodriguez of Cuba, or wondering if

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<v Speaker 2>they can get one way tickets look to join Bachelor

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<v Speaker 2>Alasade Costcoal.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. Last question, Colleague Mark Wayne Mullen. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to fly on Thursday. I gotta fly on Saturday. We

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<v Speaker 1>need DHS up and running. Does he have the votes?

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<v Speaker 1>How quickly can he get confirmed?

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<v Speaker 2>I assume that's going to be a priority, I think

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<v Speaker 2>for the Senate, Hugh. The President said that Secretary No

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<v Speaker 2>would stay in the job until March thirty. First, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just about the time that will break to be back

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<v Speaker 2>home with our people during Easter. So I would imagine

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<v Speaker 2>the administration is working over time to get all of

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Wayne's papers lined up and up to the Home

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<v Speaker 2>on Security Government Fairs Committee, and we'll do everything we

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<v Speaker 2>can to profess his nomination expeditiously.

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Tom Cotton, No, it's good to talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>and get all the info. I appreciate it very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back in America. I'm Hugh Hewett, joined now by

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News' own Lucas Tomlinson. He is in the war,

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<v Speaker 1>He's in Dubai, Lucas, what is the day like today?

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<v Speaker 1>Has the UAE can you had to come under attack

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<v Speaker 1>from Iran.

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<v Speaker 6>It's been a little quiet in the past twenty four hours, Hue.

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<v Speaker 6>That doesn't mean it's been quiet since this war in

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<v Speaker 6>Iran began. In fact, Ua has been the main target

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<v Speaker 6>for Iran. Iran has fired over fourteen hundred drones at

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<v Speaker 6>this country about the size of South Carolina, and has

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<v Speaker 6>launched over.

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<v Speaker 7>Two hundred and fifty ballistic missiles.

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<v Speaker 6>The good news, the Amuradis are intercepting all of Iran's

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<v Speaker 6>projectiles to the extent of over ninety two percent have

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<v Speaker 6>been shot down. But it has come at a cost,

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<v Speaker 6>and it came at a cost. Today an Amaradi helicopter

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<v Speaker 6>crashed while intercepting a drone, likely an Apache gunship, because

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<v Speaker 6>two soldiers were named as being killed in the crash.

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<v Speaker 6>So that is something that Iran promised that if there

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<v Speaker 6>would be a war, they would start a regional one.

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<v Speaker 6>And what's happened is here in the Gulf States is

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<v Speaker 6>every country has come under attack from Iran, but there

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<v Speaker 6>the air defense has been very strong this far.

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<v Speaker 1>Lucas, Iran fired a missile at Turkey today, Air one

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<v Speaker 1>the president of that country express dismay. But that is

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<v Speaker 1>an Article five issue, is that it doesn't the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of NATO have to come in now.

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<v Speaker 6>It sure is if Turkey were to invoke Article five,

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<v Speaker 6>and of course goes to a bit of a bureaucratic process, Hugh.

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<v Speaker 7>But you're right.

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<v Speaker 6>The Turkey is a NATO member and they were attacked,

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<v Speaker 6>and they certainly can it's within their right to invoke

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<v Speaker 6>Article five. But if you're relying on the British forces,

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<v Speaker 6>as you've seen, could be waiting for a little while

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<v Speaker 6>because they only have a few service combatants ready to deploy.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, one of their destroyers top twenty three destroyers,

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<v Speaker 6>which is only good for air defense. Right now the

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<v Speaker 6>Royal Navy, Nelson's rolling over in his grave. We only

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<v Speaker 6>have about ten service combatants that they can muster, and

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<v Speaker 6>all their destroyers and frigates are only for air defense,

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<v Speaker 6>which would come in handy of course in this war,

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<v Speaker 6>but cannot fire long range cruise missiles. You see Prime

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<v Speaker 6>Minister Kure Starmer there. We heard President Trump say that

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<v Speaker 6>he's no Churchill. But the French are deploying their aircraft

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<v Speaker 6>carrier to the eastern Mediterranean, which will be strategic because

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<v Speaker 6>the Ford aircraft carrier Strike Group has been moved over

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<v Speaker 6>the weekend from the Eastern Mediterranean transit of the Suez

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<v Speaker 6>Canal is now in the Red Sea in case the

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<v Speaker 6>Huthies would get involved. That brings two aircraft carrier strike

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<v Speaker 6>groups to this part of the world's the Arabian Peninsula.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lukas, one of the people in Dubai tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about this war. Are they glad they're finally coming to

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<v Speaker 1>blows or is it? Are they still too worried about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the Islamic Republic has gone Yosemite sam

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<v Speaker 1>on everyone.

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<v Speaker 6>They're not happy things have come to blows to you.

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<v Speaker 6>But officials I've spoken to says this is an attack

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<v Speaker 6>on Dubai's way of life, the UAE's way of life.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a very open society. Here is one of

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<v Speaker 6>the wealthiest cities in the world. In fact, right behind

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<v Speaker 6>me you can see the Burgh Khalifa. That's the tallest

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<v Speaker 6>building in the world, one hundred and sixty three floors.

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<v Speaker 6>Most of the people here, we've seen that Dubai Malas

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<v Speaker 6>is behind me as well, are carrying on.

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<v Speaker 7>But this is also a hub of tourism and right.

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<v Speaker 6>Now the hotels are taking a beating, if not physically

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<v Speaker 6>from a couple of those drones.

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<v Speaker 7>Really an ox been seeing, Hugh.

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<v Speaker 6>The hotel some of the hotels have gone from about

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<v Speaker 6>sixty percent occupan seed down to thirty percent. Some hotels

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<v Speaker 6>we've heard about have gone down to one percent. And

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<v Speaker 6>these are hotels that are normally matched out you know,

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<v Speaker 6>ninety eight ninety nine percent. So the people we've talked

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<v Speaker 6>to you on the street, if you were walking along,

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<v Speaker 6>you wouldn't always think you're you're in war right now

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<v Speaker 6>or in the conflict in the crosshairs of Iran.

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<v Speaker 7>Again, that meant those stats once again.

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<v Speaker 6>Iran has fired over fourteen hundred drones of this country,

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<v Speaker 6>over two hundred and fifty blisting missiles. Most have been intercepted,

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<v Speaker 6>you hear, I've heard some of those intercepts this morning.

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<v Speaker 6>But for the government, they also think there's an attack

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<v Speaker 6>on their way of life. It's also proximity, Hugh. At

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<v Speaker 6>the closest point, the ua is only forty five miles

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<v Speaker 6>from Iran, and as you've seen with the thousands of

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<v Speaker 6>drones that have been launched, UAE is a big target.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course, the signer of the Abraham accords from President

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<v Speaker 6>Trump's first term. Iranian say they're attacking any country where

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<v Speaker 6>there are American bases. Of course, you have Aldafra Air

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<v Speaker 6>Base for as we kept our fast movers, our fighter jets,

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<v Speaker 6>but no strikes against Iran have been launched from the UA.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course, all that was moved, and we are seeing

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<v Speaker 6>some traffic moving in the region. A lot of US

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<v Speaker 6>Air Force tankers are leaving Saudi Arabia after those oil.

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<v Speaker 7>Fields came under attack.

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<v Speaker 6>You can't talk about the Gulf States right now and

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<v Speaker 6>not talk about the price of oil, which at one

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<v Speaker 6>point went over one hundred dollars a barrel. That was

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<v Speaker 6>a fifty sixty percent rise over pre war prices. The

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<v Speaker 6>Suez can have this season, with the straight of Hornor Moves,

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<v Speaker 6>has effectively been closed. The Iranians are not mining it,

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<v Speaker 6>but they have threatened any vessel to go through. We

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<v Speaker 6>heard from the Energy Secretary Chris Right who said he

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<v Speaker 6>would like to see US Navy begin escort missions. That's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna be very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 8>I was.

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<v Speaker 7>You can see you right there in the map, Hew.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, as closest point, you're only a few miles

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<v Speaker 6>from Iranian shores of any kind of Iranian ANPTI ship.

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<v Speaker 7>Cruise missile or some of those drones.

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<v Speaker 6>You wouldn't have very long to react, So very dangerous undertaking.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lucas. Before the war began, I was told by

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian navy experts that they had five submarines. I know

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<v Speaker 1>they've lost one. They also have a lot of many.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you talked to anyone about the threat to our

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<v Speaker 1>navy from these underwater vehicles and underwater drums from Iran?

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<v Speaker 7>It's something they're looking for you.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, remember when you have the Lincoln Strike Group,

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<v Speaker 6>but we don't talk about as much as there's always

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<v Speaker 6>a fast attack submarine in the strike group, and of

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<v Speaker 6>course Ford will be bringing one as well, so it.

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<v Speaker 7>Is a threat they're looking at.

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<v Speaker 6>However, we have heard from the Pentagon, from the Secretary

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<v Speaker 6>of Warped egg st there that over forty ships have

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<v Speaker 6>been taken out, and it seems that that's a very

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<v Speaker 6>strategic move to try to free up the straight or

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<v Speaker 6>horror moves.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>One thing to consider also cute.

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<v Speaker 6>China gets forty percent of our oil from tankers that

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<v Speaker 6>pass through the straight or form moves, So you have

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<v Speaker 6>to think, while straight is closed right now, at some point,

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<v Speaker 6>China will want that reopened and get some of the oil,

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<v Speaker 6>in fact, to many countries in Asian, in fact throughout

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<v Speaker 6>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lukas last question when you leave Dubai, are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to Cuba or to Israel or where

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to go next? Because there's like a

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<v Speaker 1>war everywhere.

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<v Speaker 6>Right I go where orders you would? Cuba would be

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<v Speaker 6>fascinating right now. It certainly seems like a lot is

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<v Speaker 6>happening in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 7>It's very busy, very noisy.

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<v Speaker 1>Luc and thank you for joining me. Everyone follow him

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<v Speaker 1>at Lucas Fox News on ex Lucas Fox News on

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<v Speaker 1>x sank Welcome back to America. Just talking about the album Thriller.

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<v Speaker 1>It is thrilling, sort of to live in Israel every day,

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<v Speaker 1>under attack from the north, from Hesblah, under attack from

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<v Speaker 1>Iran at intermittent times throughout the night. Nothing yet from mamma.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joined by a former Israeli ambassador to the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Michael Oran. Well played on CNN, Doctor Oran, when

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<v Speaker 1>you corrected the anchor, Oh, by the way, we're under

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<v Speaker 1>attack here, I thought that was well played.

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<v Speaker 9>They had a seven minute item you about Lebanon all

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<v Speaker 9>the destruction that we are waking on Lebanon without mentioning one,

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<v Speaker 9>not one of the two hundred and twenty missiles that

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<v Speaker 9>they had fired at Israel up to that point. They

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<v Speaker 9>fired a lot more today, and it's just it's rotten journalism.

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<v Speaker 9>It's basically propaganda, and I wasn't gonna let him get

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<v Speaker 9>away with it. It's enough and it's extraordinary. I was

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<v Speaker 9>talking in the American news today. Nobody knows what's going

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<v Speaker 9>up on North. We're under constant fire from the North.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk Lebanon first. I have seen open source discussions

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe has Belah wants to say no Moss or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Lebanon wants to formally agree with Israel to exterminate

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<v Speaker 1>as Belah. What is the situation diplomatically about the northern Front.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it's not quite true that what the message was

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<v Speaker 9>tonight that the Lebanese government communicated to Israel through the

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<v Speaker 9>United States that they're interested in having ministerial level peace

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<v Speaker 9>talks on Cyprus, and that there were actually elements Stace

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<v Speaker 9>that educated, there were elements in his beloved say that

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<v Speaker 9>they were on board with this.

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<v Speaker 5>They wanted to get a.

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<v Speaker 9>Ceasefire and the response to the Trump administration was terrific.

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<v Speaker 9>Was Listen, you promised to dismantle his brother's arms to

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<v Speaker 9>take to to disarm them. Excuse me, and you have

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<v Speaker 9>them done it, and they're just going to get have

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<v Speaker 9>now a ceasefire. We're going to go back to the

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<v Speaker 9>status quo ante that's not that's a no go. So

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<v Speaker 9>you start making concrete steps to fulfilling your commitment to

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<v Speaker 9>disarm his bulla and we'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I thought that was an excellent response.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now, let's go to the news. Generally, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that there's been a showage spill in the Potomac.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not calling it the poo too, Mac because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so bad. That's like my feed. I can't tell what's

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<v Speaker 1>real and what's not real. I'm looking for hard facts

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<v Speaker 1>about how the war is going. How do you think

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<v Speaker 1>the war is going based on hard facts?

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<v Speaker 9>You want the hard facts. Hamas and Iran a pretty

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<v Speaker 9>much the same. In order to win, they have only

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<v Speaker 9>not to lose, and they don't care how many ships

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<v Speaker 9>they lose. They don't care how many leaders they get assassinated.

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<v Speaker 9>They're just as long as they can come out of

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<v Speaker 9>the bubble. At the end and go like this, then

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<v Speaker 9>they wont and.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, we've got to this. We are in maybe

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<v Speaker 5>just the beginning stages of this. That's me the war

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<v Speaker 5>is going to go on indefinitely.

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<v Speaker 9>It just means there's going to be a very intense

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<v Speaker 9>beginning of the war and then we'll keep it the

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<v Speaker 9>pressure on Iran by having a very tight naval blockde

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<v Speaker 9>not an oil drop of oil gets out of there.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, Americans, you know, we understand here. The

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<v Speaker 9>Americans have the scars of every rack in Afghanistan and

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<v Speaker 9>these so called endless wars. But a much better example

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<v Speaker 9>would be the Cold War, which took decades and America

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<v Speaker 9>kept up the pressure on the Soviet block and eventually

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<v Speaker 9>that block fell. And this maybe happened the case here

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<v Speaker 9>because we met barring a upheaval, you know, a domestic

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<v Speaker 9>revolt or a type of coup within the Iranian leadership itself.

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<v Speaker 5>We're in the army. This could go on for a

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<v Speaker 5>very long time because they don't care.

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<v Speaker 9>All they care about is that they don't lose, and

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<v Speaker 9>it can come out of the rubble and make the

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<v Speaker 9>v side well.

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<v Speaker 1>But now Israel's navy, Israel's navy last night took out

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<v Speaker 1>five Iranians of the Koods Force in Beirut, reminding us

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<v Speaker 1>that not only does Israel have a navy, so does Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we've sunk that. We being in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>have sunk a lot of their navy, but they have

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<v Speaker 1>five submarines at the start, at least one has been sunk,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of mini subs. Will any hard reporting

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel about the naval threat underwater from Iran?

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<v Speaker 5>None whatsoever?

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<v Speaker 9>Zero, Not even about the reports about what the Israeli

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<v Speaker 9>navy has done.

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<v Speaker 5>They're keeping that under close wrap.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, And I imagine there are many types of military

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<v Speaker 9>activities that are going on that we don't know about,

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<v Speaker 9>and we shouldn't know about.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I have been making a point

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<v Speaker 1>to say, you said, this could go on a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't want people to think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be less than two months or three months, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>an air war, it's not a ground war. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no march to Tehran. There's not going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>ground and occurring. Do you think that is a fairly

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<v Speaker 1>realistic minimum time set? Two to three months?

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<v Speaker 9>It's realistic, and I'm a little bit more optimistic in

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<v Speaker 9>you that once we eliminate the Iran's ability to launch

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<v Speaker 9>missiles at US at our neighbors, then Iran is basically

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<v Speaker 9>that kind of sitting duck. And you can maintain a

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<v Speaker 9>much lower level of air activity, but keep up the

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<v Speaker 9>naval blockade, keep the pressure on, and eventually they'll break.

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<v Speaker 9>And again, the model is not Iraq, it's not Afghanist,

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<v Speaker 9>and the model is the Cold War.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Ambassador, and we are on how many two point zero?

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<v Speaker 1>We may be on half of how many two point

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<v Speaker 1>zero given some of the reports that he's been badly injured.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Israel have a checklist that they'll just keep going

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<v Speaker 1>down and the assets in place to find and eliminate

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<v Speaker 1>all of the Iranian leadership?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, depends on who the leadership is and what their

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<v Speaker 9>positions are. You know, if mister Mushtaba KHMANI were to

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<v Speaker 9>come up and say, okay, I'm willing to you know,

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<v Speaker 9>toss on the towel and I'm going to give up

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<v Speaker 9>the nuclear dream, I'm going to give up the production

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<v Speaker 9>of ballistic missiles, and I'm gonna stop supporting terror around

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<v Speaker 9>the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, you know, he could be a leap there every ron.

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<v Speaker 9>But if he's going to have the exact same policies

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<v Speaker 9>as his father and of the founding of the Islamber

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<v Speaker 9>Republic Homanne, then then his longevity should be should be

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<v Speaker 9>very very short lived.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's significant Hamini, the founder, was against

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<v Speaker 1>hereditary succession. He thought it was un Islamic, very very

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<v Speaker 1>very verbal about that. Does it matter in the propaganda

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<v Speaker 1>war that they've basically crowned a king and passed it

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<v Speaker 1>on to the prince.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it matters internally domestically, and it has to do

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<v Speaker 9>with his legitimacy. So tonight we're treated to these pictures

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<v Speaker 9>of you know, tens of thousands of supporters of the

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<v Speaker 9>regime going out and you know, chanting a lock bar

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<v Speaker 9>and chanting, you know, for swearing fealty to the new

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<v Speaker 9>Supreme leader. Of the question is what other Iranians think

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<v Speaker 9>and does this chip away further at what little legitimacy

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<v Speaker 9>this regime still had.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question, Israel Advocacy Group, what you've founded has got

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<v Speaker 1>to be busier than ever. Do people understand the depth

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<v Speaker 1>of the integration of the US and Israeli military operations?

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<v Speaker 9>They do not, And I will tell you at a

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<v Speaker 9>personal level, at an historical level, you know, the United

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<v Speaker 9>States and is you have always had a.

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<v Speaker 5>Totally special relationship.

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<v Speaker 9>In the deepest and most multifaceted strategic alliance which the

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<v Speaker 9>United States has had with any foreign power in the

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<v Speaker 9>post forward two period, does include the United States and

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<v Speaker 9>Great Britain.

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<v Speaker 5>That's much to say about that.

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<v Speaker 9>Now and today, Israel is without question America's only truly

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<v Speaker 9>dependable military ally in the world. An ALLI is going

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<v Speaker 9>to be there, and a ally that's willing to fight. Now,

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<v Speaker 9>that's extraordinary. And I don't recall anything like that of

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<v Speaker 9>the United States and Israel a cooperating at the level

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<v Speaker 9>they're cooperating and mounting a joint defensific it's a common enemy.

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<v Speaker 5>It's quite extraordinary, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And if people understood the tactical integration as well, to

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<v Speaker 1>the extent that it's available, I think anyone who's studied

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<v Speaker 1>and even reads lightly about war would be as doneged.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Michael Lauren has a new piece over at Fox

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<v Speaker 1>on the fact that we've been at war with They're

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<v Speaker 1>on for forty seven years, same sort of thing I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote for The Daily Wire today. So go over to

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Michael Lauren on X and find it, or you

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<v Speaker 1>can find it on my feet. I just reposted it

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Thank you ambacheador or and I'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back America. I'm he Hewitt, joined now by Nada Nadav.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do we find you today.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I'm right now in New Jersey going to teach

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<v Speaker 10>my class tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Not far from here in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>You are at the Columbia School of International and Public Affairs.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you going to tell your students about this war?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm going to tell them that this is a historic

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<v Speaker 10>moment in the history of the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a watershed moment.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the first.

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<v Speaker 10>Time that Iran has been in a direct confrontation with

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<v Speaker 10>the United States and Israel. Since its inception, the Islamic

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<v Speaker 10>Republic has spoken, has prophesied about a judgment day in

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<v Speaker 10>which there would be a confrontation between itself and the West.

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<v Speaker 10>And that day has come, and it is very much

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<v Speaker 10>related due to the actions of the Islamic Republic in

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<v Speaker 10>those recent decades and the way that it has based

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<v Speaker 10>its national narrative, its creed on the ideas of death

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<v Speaker 10>to America and death to Israel and I'm also going

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<v Speaker 10>to discuss with students who want to discuss the complexity

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<v Speaker 10>of this problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Will there be a.

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<v Speaker 10>Change within the regime, Will there be a regime change

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<v Speaker 10>the sort of a democratic revolution that the West would

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<v Speaker 10>want to see. These matters are really very complex and nuanced,

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<v Speaker 10>and I think this is how.

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<v Speaker 1>We should approach them. Nada, I have a piece in

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<v Speaker 1>the Daily Wire today about watching the original Iranian Revolution

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<v Speaker 1>in the fall of seventy eight in January seventy nine

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<v Speaker 1>with former President Nixon and Ray Price and San Clementy.

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<v Speaker 1>I had just gotten out of college, the same age

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<v Speaker 1>of your students should be talking to today, And how

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<v Speaker 1>many came down the steps on February one, after the

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<v Speaker 1>show had left a ten days earlier, twelve days earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one in the West had a idea what

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<v Speaker 1>har Many was about. They thought it was like a

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>green red revolution and everything would be flip flowered. His

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 1>theology is so radical. Two questions, Do your students know

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<v Speaker 1>what his theological worldview is and what we think how

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<v Speaker 1>many two point zeros worldview is and do they know

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<v Speaker 1>that how many two point zero hereditary succession is completely

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<v Speaker 1>contradictory to what harmony himself preached.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, these are excellent questions, and I'm not sure it

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<v Speaker 10>really depends on what kind of classes they're taking you.

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<v Speaker 10>But I think that it was an Israel back in

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<v Speaker 10>nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty, and I've seen the articles

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<v Speaker 10>to prove this.

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<v Speaker 5>I can send you one.

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<v Speaker 10>Just after the show, people were saying, this is going

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<v Speaker 10>to be a disaster. This is Hominy is a hardliner,

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<v Speaker 10>an extremist. He's going to take this country, the entire country.

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<v Speaker 10>He's going to seize control. And that coalition that you

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<v Speaker 10>spoke about, the Red and Green coalition, is just going

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<v Speaker 10>to become green. It's just going to become Islamic. And

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<v Speaker 10>what we're seeing now that you just mentioned the hereditary

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<v Speaker 10>nature of the regime by electing much Daba Hami Nai

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<v Speaker 10>as the leader, the son of Ali Haminna'i, this is

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<v Speaker 10>maybe the final betrayal of the Islamic Republic with the

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<v Speaker 10>idea that it tried to replace the hereditary rule, the

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<v Speaker 10>idea of monarchy that has ruled Irand for thousands of years.

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<v Speaker 10>They came and said no more, we are a republic.

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<v Speaker 10>This is how they describe themselves. And yet the Council

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<v Speaker 10>of experts elected the day before yesterday the son of

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<v Speaker 10>the former leader to lead the country. And that tells

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<v Speaker 10>you a lot about what has happened to the Islamic

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<v Speaker 10>Republic and the difference between the promise of the Islamic Republic,

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<v Speaker 10>which was we are going to be a free country

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<v Speaker 10>and an Islamist country, and that promise almost immediately evaporated

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<v Speaker 10>towards authority.

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<v Speaker 1>Dob I listened with you and a mate and Dan Senor,

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<v Speaker 1>and he shouldn't be the moderate guy in Israel. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask you that I wanted the audience

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<v Speaker 1>to know this. Republicans are fully support of this war

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>almost ninety percent, Democrats almost ninety five percent against it,

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<v Speaker 1>Independent sort of three quarters against it. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I mean to see how it ends. What's

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the feeling in Israel about this war, and how it

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<v Speaker 1>has to end.

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<v Speaker 10>The feeling in Israel, and that's almost the consensus in Israel,

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<v Speaker 10>more than eighty percent, is that it needs to end

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<v Speaker 10>with the resounding defeat of the Islamic Republic. It's sort

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<v Speaker 10>of a change within the regime or a change of

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<v Speaker 10>the regime.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump, I think said it best.

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<v Speaker 10>It's not about trying to install someone else specifically there.

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<v Speaker 10>It's about the Islamic republic answering some basic conditions, for instance,

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<v Speaker 10>not supporting terror across the region. This is how Israelis

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 10>feel about this. And if you look at Israeli opposition,

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 10>the chairman of the opposition, the chairman of the opposition

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<v Speaker 10>is the one who's now recommending the government to bomb

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<v Speaker 10>Hog Island, where the entire oil installations and gas installations

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 10>of the Islamic Republic are located. This is is Lapede

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 10>who is saying that a sworn political rival of Prime

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<v Speaker 10>Minister NATANIAO. So this gives you an idea the extent

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<v Speaker 10>of a unity in Israel in reference to the war.

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<v Speaker 10>Having said that, I don't want to sugarcoat this. This

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 10>is a difficult war for Israeli Habalas joined the war.

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 10>People are running for the shelters sometimes every few minutes,

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 10>and they are traumatized because of three years of war

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<v Speaker 10>that began with the mass massacre on our southern border

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<v Speaker 10>on October seven.

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<v Speaker 1>So they want this over.

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<v Speaker 10>And as we can see on the screen and we

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 10>just saw, there are also damages and this is significant.

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 10>And because of that, people are saying We're willing to

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 10>suffer now if this means that Iran will be taking

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<v Speaker 10>off as a thread for the next two decades. But

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<v Speaker 10>we definitely want this to end with something that is meaningful.

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<v Speaker 10>Whether or not this could be achieved, the jury is

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<v Speaker 10>still out about that now.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost on it. For Israelis you meet doctor orn

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and Abe and you all have different, very different nuanced

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<v Speaker 1>takes on questions. But this one I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>all of you. Hezbolla appears to be offering a shepherd piece.

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<v Speaker 1>They're getting that crap kicked out of it, and they

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<v Speaker 1>may be breaking with Lebanon, and they may be breaking

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<v Speaker 1>with Iran. Would you accept the shepherd piece? Is a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea with Hesbala right.

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<v Speaker 10>Now, with hisbel itself, of course not, But with the

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<v Speaker 10>state of Flebanon, that could be a very good idea

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<v Speaker 10>if the state of Flebon can actually disarm Hballah. The

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<v Speaker 10>idea in Lebanon, the consensus in Lebanon, the UN Security

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<v Speaker 10>Counsel of the Decisions is that after the idea we

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<v Speaker 10>drew from Lebanon in the year two thousand, there is

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 10>no reason for his Bala to exist as an armed militia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not only an armed militia.

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<v Speaker 10>It's the most heavily funded and founded military group terror

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<v Speaker 10>group in the entire world. And what the Lebanese are

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 10>now saying that I think you're referring to is that

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<v Speaker 10>let's let's negotiate directly with this world first time in history.

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<v Speaker 10>Let's even maybe sort of have an agreement there. I

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 10>think that's an excellent idea if we can get that done.

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<v Speaker 1>Nadada, I always go to talk to you, continue to play,

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>doing more and more and more insider over at ram

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>scene or his place. Call me back, get the inside

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>edition so you don't mention a minute of nadav or

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a may thank you, Nadad. I'll be right back to

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<v Speaker 1>America VIII. Arter back in America. I'm yet solely as Vito,

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>as calmness of the world. She writes for the Washington Post,

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, for the New York Post,

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>for the Washington Examiners, probably writes Frather things I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about, Selena. How are you?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, just live in the dream.

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 11>The sun is out, which is very rare, so I'm

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 11>enjoying it.

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>It's Pittsburgh. You can't get your hopes done has the

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>President called you recently? He was talking to Brian kill

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Me last night, right before the show, so I think

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>he likes to call people right before their shows.

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't have a show.

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 11>I talked to him a week ago, but we've talked

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 11>about East Palestine and the ten million dollars that he

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 11>got for economic development in the downtown area and infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 11>but not the war.

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>No, not the war, all right, so just give me.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't been spun by the president then, yet? What

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>do you think of the battle with Iran?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, so I'm going to I have to base it

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 11>on the interviews I've been doing with people, and you know,

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 11>there's overwhelming support.

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 7>You know, you and I have talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 11>It's two different worlds you straddle when you are when

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 11>you are a reporter. There's the one that you live

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 11>in and you report from, in particular if you're coming

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 11>for places like I do right Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin.

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 11>And then there's no online world, which is very very

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 11>different and people have very very different motivations outside of

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 11>their honest feelings about something to how they form their opinion.

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:30.959
<v Speaker 11>That's a long way of me saying people are very

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 11>supportive of this.

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>They understood. Let me play you a little clip of

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Harry Anton on CNN and get your reaction to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut number two.

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<v Speaker 12>Overall public and those who are either currently or have

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 12>served in the military. Take a look at this Fox

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 12>newspap that came out during the past week net approval

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 12>rating of the current US military action against Ron. Look

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 12>at that overall Fox News shows a dead even split,

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 12>But look at those who served in the military significantly

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 12>higher support for the US military action currently going on

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 12>in Iran at plus twenty points.

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<v Speaker 1>Selena, veterans know who we're fighting. My son, my son

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in law, my nephew, they've all been attacked by Iran

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 1>when they were in uniform. Well, there's no doubt among

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the veterans. I mean there might be a few, there

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>are all the few, but it's over They know the

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>enemy and I think that makes a huge difference here.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it's really it's really interesting. And you know, even

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 11>Paul Skins, the cy Young Award, a winning pitcher.

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<v Speaker 7>For the Pirates, right. I don't know if you've seen him.

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 7>He's absolutely amazing.

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 3>I have a really great piece with him this today.

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<v Speaker 11>But his support for the military and for the country

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 11>as he's getting ready to pitch tonight in the World

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 11>Baseball Series. I think just exemplifies how military men and

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 11>women feel about Iran, because no other country has killed

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 11>more in this in this century of measure than Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Well said, I was a little bit surprised because I

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't aware that Pittsburgh had a professional ball club anymore.

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Tell me soddenly, I'm sorry. I know you love your

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 1>party is amazing.

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 11>He's absolutely amazing.

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:16.240
<v Speaker 3>And his love of country.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, people don't know he's served. He was in

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 7>the Air Force Academy.

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. Where tell us his name and

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>he's a National League player. I don't follow him because

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get to the postseason, because he's with the Pirates.

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 7>All Skins.

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 11>He's pitching tonight. Take a look at my story at

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<v Speaker 11>Zito Selena, just about his level of country, love of military,

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.280
<v Speaker 11>how proud he is to be playing tonight.

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 7>He's pitching tonight.

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 11>The United States has just been crushing it in this series,

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 11>and if people haven't been watching it, I highly recommend

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 11>that you do. It is such an expression of patriotism

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 11>and passion for our country among these players it's really amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you've got the one Democrat in Pennsylvania supports

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the troops and the war. John Fetterman, what happened to

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats that we grew up with? Selena As I'm

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>with Brian kill me last night. I just said, this

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>is not Fdr Truman, Kennedy, LBJ, not even Bill Clinton.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all against this combat and they won't fund it.

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<v Speaker 11>You know who stuns me the most is Mark Warner.

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<v Speaker 11>He really has done a complete change, right. He's really

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<v Speaker 11>become sort of strident. If Republican or Trump, it's not

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<v Speaker 11>just Trump anymore. If a Republican is attached to it,

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<v Speaker 11>he is stridently against it. He could be against school

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<v Speaker 11>crossing crossing guards. If Donald Trump said let's all support

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<v Speaker 11>school crossing guards and give them, give them a draise,

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<v Speaker 11>he'd be against it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Democratic Party disease. Mark Warner is a very

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<v Speaker 1>smart man. I've met him a few times, very smart guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Virginia Democratic Party has gone way left, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you have to worry about that if you're an

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<v Speaker 1>incumbent center I don't know if they'll ever vote for

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<v Speaker 1>a Democratic for supplemental for the war. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>for everything that you write. Welcome back to America. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Hewett Leland vittert rejoins us. He was last on when

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<v Speaker 1>his wonderful book Born Lucky came out. Continues to sell

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<v Speaker 1>like hotcake or to touch an extraordinary look into the

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime in childhood, especially of children who are born somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>on the spectrum. Leland is a though on today because

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>he's a war correspondence, war course bonding. He's in the

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>studio now with Unbalance every night over at NewsNation. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to him about covering this war. Leland,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you well?

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<v Speaker 8>Once a war coorse find is always a war corse

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<v Speaker 8>bonder hughes. So sometimes, as you know, the arrows and

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.280
<v Speaker 8>knives of a Washington news are worse than that. Actually

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<v Speaker 8>in war I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know that because I've never had to work in

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<v Speaker 1>a newsroom in DC. The newsroom I had was PBS

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>INLA and that was pretty bad. But that's okay, Leland.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you Number one, there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>available on the web that it is difficult to distinguish

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>between AI generated disinformation and hard facts. What filters are

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<v Speaker 1>you putting up to make sure you only learn what's true?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, trying my very best to cross reference everything I

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<v Speaker 8>hear number one. Number two, cross referencing not only sort

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 8>of what you're hearing in seeing online, but with real

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 8>people who are either in the region or involved in

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 8>the government in other places where they are in a

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 8>position to independently verify so much of this. But you're

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 8>right that AI has created a fog of war, and

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 8>you could say call it a fog of journalism, which

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<v Speaker 8>is far greater than anything we ever had to deal

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<v Speaker 8>with before.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. Now, what I'm trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>is find facts. When someone like the IDF puts out

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<v Speaker 1>the number of attacks that decreased by ninety percent, We've

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>destroyed eighty percent of their launchers, but those percent of

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.760
<v Speaker 1>drones are getting through, or the UAE post their daily

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Defense Ministry stats. I rely on that, And when we

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>sink ships in the Iranian Navy, I rely on that.

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>And we always tell people our casualties, but how do

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<v Speaker 1>we What else do you look for other than the IDF,

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<v Speaker 1>the scentcom feed, the UAE feed. What else are you

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<v Speaker 1>relying on?

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<v Speaker 8>Relying a lot on trying to see what's happening on

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<v Speaker 8>the ground. And I think the one thing to be

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<v Speaker 8>watching for right now is whether or not there are

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<v Speaker 8>protests on the ground in Iran.

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<v Speaker 3>We have not seen a lot of video of that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something I'm watching for.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm watching the price of oil because I think that

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<v Speaker 8>is sort of signifying howc usful the Iranians are and causing.

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<v Speaker 3>The one pain point they have left.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm watching for what the Iranian drones have been able

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<v Speaker 8>to destroy in terms of US military hardware, not only

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<v Speaker 8>the casualties, but the very high end US military hardware.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm also watching for what's not being said. Sometimes and

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<v Speaker 8>often what's not being said, which in this case is

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<v Speaker 8>a specific goal by the administration of what they view

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<v Speaker 8>as the end of this war may be the most

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<v Speaker 8>important things leland.

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<v Speaker 1>Which war tell of the audience who may not be

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 1>familiar with how many years you spent war zone, where

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you went, when you went, what you saw.

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<v Speaker 3>Four years in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 8>So a couple of Gaza Wars, the Libyan Revolution, the

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<v Speaker 8>Egyptian Revolution, covered the Syrian Revolution, some time in the Gulf,

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit of the uprising in Turkey, and then

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<v Speaker 8>spent the last month my overseas tour in Ukraine's the

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<v Speaker 8>first Russian invasion in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the perfect setup. In the ten years that

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<v Speaker 1>have elapsed since the twelve years since you were in Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>war has changed. I've been in this game for since

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty nine in broadcast, and I've been studying Iran

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>since nineteen seventy eight with Richard Nixon. It's completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>The drones is completely different. Do you think the American

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<v Speaker 1>consuming audience understands how different war has become?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, they may not, but they will once they watch

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<v Speaker 8>on Balance at nine pm tonight on News Nation, or

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.399
<v Speaker 8>they listen to this interview on the Uhwite Show, because

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<v Speaker 8>that's what we're talking about tonight.

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<v Speaker 10>It is.

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<v Speaker 8>Beyond incompetence from the US military that they did not

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<v Speaker 8>plan better for the low end military threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>The US is just extraordinary at the high end of

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<v Speaker 8>being able to intercept ballistic missiles and shoot down.

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<v Speaker 3>Incoming fighter jets, in the light.

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<v Speaker 8>What they're not good at, and what the past week

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<v Speaker 8>has proved that they have a very hard time doing

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<v Speaker 8>is intercepting massive amounts of Iranian drones coming in in swarms.

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<v Speaker 8>And what is stunning to meet, Hugh, and I think

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<v Speaker 8>what you're getting at is that this was so predictable

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<v Speaker 8>because it's exactly what the Russians have been doing to

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<v Speaker 8>the Ukrainians with Iranian drones, and the US military seem

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<v Speaker 8>just not to plant that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're showing videos of Tomahawk.

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<v Speaker 8>Missiles that cost two and three million dollars apiece, and

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 8>the interceptors that go up can be four or five

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 8>million dollars apiece, and we're spending those using those trying

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<v Speaker 8>to shoot down twenty thousand dollars drones.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not a good investment here.

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<v Speaker 1>There are two things that I haven't seen, Leland, maybe

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you have. I saw a brief bit of open intel

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<v Speaker 1>that the growler, which dispatches from the carriers. Although there

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>is an expeditionary squadron of growlers that can fly from

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Air Force bases, but they're on carre they can bring

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<v Speaker 1>down drones in dramatic number. I don't know how many

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 1>growlers we have and how often they're deployed. The second

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 1>thing is that our pights, which are sub hundreds. The

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Iranian Navy had five subs at the beginning, five real

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 1>big subs. One has been sunk, but they had a

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of mini subs. Have you sent any open source

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on that.

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<v Speaker 8>I have not, But I think what you're seeing in

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<v Speaker 8>terms of a direction, and we'll have a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>more on this tonight, is the fact that the US

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<v Speaker 8>Navy is not transiting the sort of straight of war

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 8>moves and providing tanker escorts that we know of right

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<v Speaker 8>now tell you. I think that Central Command does not

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 8>yet confidently understand what the Iranian capabilities are, what's survived

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 8>from an Iranian capability standpoint in the straight of war

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 8>moves in the very close in coastal waterways around Iraq,

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<v Speaker 8>And that to me is once we start seeing that,

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<v Speaker 8>that will tell us that the United States Central Command

0:42:58.040 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 8>is much more confident about that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's no surprise right that President Trump.

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 8>In his opening statement about the Iranian attack, Ranian war, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to call it.

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<v Speaker 8>Instead, we've gone after Iran's navy, and that's because everyone

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 8>knew that the straight of hor.

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<v Speaker 3>Moves was the checkpoint.

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<v Speaker 8>This was Iran's blackmail, and I think it speaks volumes

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<v Speaker 8>to why this war has been necessary, that the Iranians

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 8>have handled themselves and done what they have done to

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 8>try to economically blackmail the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question, Leland I turned down on Mark Montgomery. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Cotton's on a little bit later. People who have

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>access to open source and closed source, and they're careful,

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 1>who's your goad to guy? You haven't got Jack King,

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 1>mister war on Fox. I don't either. Who's your go

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:48.240
<v Speaker 1>to people for military expertise?

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<v Speaker 8>There a couple of people who will both be on tonight.

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<v Speaker 8>One is Kirk Lippold, who was the commander of the

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 8>USS Cole but who understands these waters. He's been in

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 8>the straight of hor Moves time and time again. I

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 8>think he has something like forty crossings right now, so

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 8>he understands those waters, and to your point, can not

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<v Speaker 8>only look at the open source intel, but look at

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 8>what's happening and then tell us why it's happening, to

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 8>extrapolate out what the reality on the ground is.

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 3>And then we've also found a great guest.

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 8>I know he's available to come on your show is

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<v Speaker 8>a guy named John Tikert who was an F twenty

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<v Speaker 8>two pilot and a commander of the Edwards Air Force

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 8>Base Test Squadron that did all of the Air Force

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 8>testing in terms for aircraft air defenses, on and on

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 8>and on and lastly, he finished up his career as

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 8>a one star general as the US military acts Shay

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<v Speaker 8>to a rock, so he understands the region on top

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:46.439
<v Speaker 8>of all that in terms of air powers invaluable.

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<v Speaker 1>F twenty two the apex predator really of all military systems.

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<v Speaker 1>I interrupt my war coverage to bring to you a

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<v Speaker 1>very special guest, doctor Ross Green. He is one of

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the leading educators in America is the author of the

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 1>brand new book The Kids who Aren't Okay. The Kids

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>who Aren't Okay came out last week just as the

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:20.760
<v Speaker 1>war broke out, so I did not get the attention

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 1>it deserved. But I want to make sure that the

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>parents and teachers of America's fifty million K through twelve

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>kids know about the kids who Aren't Okay. So doctor

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Ross Green agreed degree joined me today. Doctor Green, how

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>are you and where are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in Freeport Maine, a territory you know well, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm probably a little colder than you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are ll being still open, I'm sure, doctor Green. I

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:48.840
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you, would you tell people at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of this your long intervention in American education, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the restrained industrial system, as a way of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to set up why you wrote the kids who aren't okay?

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote the kids who aren't okay because we are

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 4>still manhandling a lot of kids who aren't okay. It's

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 4>called the restraint industry. We keep teaching our educators what

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 4>to do when it's already too late, and there are

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of kids who aren't doing very well right now,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have to open our eyes to that.

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<v Speaker 1>In my grandkids school district, a child died from restraint

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:29.280
<v Speaker 1>in December, and of course they're facing an enormous lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>How often does that happen in America?

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<v Speaker 4>Restraint happens more often than we think. It's about seventy

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 4>to one hundred thousand times a year, depending on whose

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:45.240
<v Speaker 4>statistics you believe. Death, which is the most extreme outcome,

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 4>we average about two or three deaths per year, based

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 4>on the most recent research that I'm aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>All right now, doctor, you wrote this book, and I

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 1>say it often because Franklin's taught me. Unless you say

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:00.879
<v Speaker 1>in the title of a book seven times times, people

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>won't remember the kids who Aren't Okay. So I will

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>say the kids who Aren't Okay at least seven times

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 1>in every segment. I'm overwhelmed by it. When I got

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the page one seventy four, evidence based Treatment, I was

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 1>sitting there thinking to myself, my God, how do we

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>solve these problems? Do you run into that a lot?

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Because there are it's overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's thick. I'll say that schools definitely implement a

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 4>lot of programs that are not evidence based. The model

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 4>contained in The Kids who Aren't Okay is evidence based.

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 4>I spent a lot of my career doing research on

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 4>the model. It works, but we do have to sort

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 4>of plow through all of these structures that are in place,

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:52.279
<v Speaker 4>all of these programs that we already do. Once we

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 4>can get comfortable enough to take a look at our

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 4>practices and whether they're actually working, it's not that hard

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 4>to start doing the right thing.

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about the right thing in a moment,

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 1>but I think the summary quote that I want to

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:07.879
<v Speaker 1>take aways on page seventy five when you dip into

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>your Shakespeare knowledge and quote the Bard saying better three

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:14.360
<v Speaker 1>hours too soon than a minute too late, And that

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:19.920
<v Speaker 1>is a summary of the whole book. Intervene early, figure

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.920
<v Speaker 1>out what's going on with a kid who acts up

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and has troubles facing the problems that they're dealing with.

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 1>They can't solve problem better to intervene early. Is that

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>a fair summary? Doctor?

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<v Speaker 4>It is certainly my favorite point of the book, and

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<v Speaker 4>that is that so much of what we're teaching educators

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:45.240
<v Speaker 4>to do is about crisis management. It's not that hard

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 4>to start being crisis prevention oriented. We can be early

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 4>instead of late. But there's a lot of training and

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 4>a lot of structures in schools that point us toward

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 4>being late, to the detriment of both both the kids

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.279
<v Speaker 4>who aren't okay and the people who are trying to

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:04.320
<v Speaker 4>help them out in schools.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I feel for teachers after reading this book, because

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a bell curve in every school system. They're going

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to have children who don't problem solve very well and

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 1>who act out in different ways. And the illustrations you

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:21.440
<v Speaker 1>provide throughout the book are jarring. Really really jarring. I

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know how teachers do it. When did this to

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 1>begin to be noticed by you as a recurring pattern

0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of modern American education as well as the wrong solutions

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I started working with behaviorally challenging kids in graduate school,

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.840
<v Speaker 4>started working with them in schools as a natural progression.

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 4>If you're working with kids with behavioral challenges, you're working

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:52.360
<v Speaker 4>with them in schools, not just with them in families.

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 4>And that's when it became apparent to me that it

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:58.400
<v Speaker 4>was the same kids, ten or fifteen in every school,

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 4>depending on the size of the school, who are accounting

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 4>for seventy to eighty percent of the discipline referrals in

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 4>that school and seventy to eighty percent of the punitive,

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 4>exclusionary disciplinary practices that were being administered in that school.

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 4>And I noticed that we just kept doing this stuff

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:22.320
<v Speaker 4>over and over again, even though it clearly wasn't working.

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 4>And that is still true today. We have a lot

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:31.800
<v Speaker 4>of reliance on behavior modification. But and this is a

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:35.320
<v Speaker 4>key to the book. As you know, focusing on behavior

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 4>is not where the action's at. I get why we're

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:41.799
<v Speaker 4>focused on behavior. It's the part that is most disruptive

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 4>to the classroom most dangerous. But behind every concerning behavior

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 4>is a problem that's causing it. Those problems can be

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:57.919
<v Speaker 4>identified proactively, they can be solved proactively. If we stay

0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 4>focused on behavior, we're going to be late every single time.

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Now, on page sixty one, you use that term. Ten

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:08.720
<v Speaker 1>to fifteen percent of children in school account for seventy

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to eighty percent of the discipline referrals. So that does

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it telegraphs to me that the AUSP ought to be

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:18.839
<v Speaker 1>developed very quickly for the ten to fifteen percent. That's

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the term of art that I want people to take

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>away the AUSP. Would you tell people what it is?

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.800
<v Speaker 1>And as well, what the CPS is. Those are the

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:31.359
<v Speaker 1>two most common acronyms in the book, and so let's

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 1>lay it out.

0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 4>For him ASUP is the assessment of skills and unsolved problems.

0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 4>It helps us move in thirty to forty five minutes

0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:46.800
<v Speaker 4>from focusing on a kid's concerning behavior, which is just

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 4>their frustration response. I use those terms interchangeably to the

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:55.799
<v Speaker 4>problems that are causing those behaviors that often have never

0:52:56.000 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 4>even been identified, let alone solved. Every year, those problems,

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 4>I call them unsolved problems, just get punted from one

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 4>teacher the next. Year after year after a while, we

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 4>have a student who has this massive pile of unsolved problems.

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 4>We've been punishing them like there's no tomorrow. We've been

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 4>giving them stickers and rewarding them in other ways. Their

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:26.240
<v Speaker 4>concerning behavior is continuing because the problems that are causing

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 4>those behaviors are still unsolved. The Assessment of Skills and

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Unsolved problem, what I call ASIP, helps us fix that.

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 4>I do not have a proprietary interest in it. It's

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:42.000
<v Speaker 4>free on the website of the nonprofit I've founded, Lives

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:47.440
<v Speaker 4>in the Balance. CPS stands for collaborative and proactive Solutions.

0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:55.240
<v Speaker 4>Once you identify those problems proactively, you can solve them proactively.

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:59.160
<v Speaker 4>But not only proactively collaboratively.

0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Well, I was gonna say, lives Inthebalance dot org.

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I want people to make sure they know the website

0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:09.680
<v Speaker 1>as well as the title of the book, Lives Inthebalance

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 1>dot org. But go ahead proactively.

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:16.000
<v Speaker 4>Means proactively means don't wait till the heat in the

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 4>moment to try to solve this highly predictable, unsolved problem.

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:23.920
<v Speaker 4>This is not the first time Timmy has had difficulty

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 4>completing the double digit division problems on the worksheet in math,

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:30.719
<v Speaker 4>it's the ninety seventh time. Why are we stuck in

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:34.800
<v Speaker 4>the heat of the moment yet again dealing with Timmy's

0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 4>frustration response and sending Timmy to this cool disciplinarian so

0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 4>that someone can give consequences for Timmy's frustration response. We'd

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 4>be saving a ton of time if we're identifying those

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:53.880
<v Speaker 4>problems proactively and solving the proactively. But the other keyword

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:59.879
<v Speaker 4>is collaboratively. Timmy has to be an integral, indispensable part

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:04.719
<v Speaker 4>of the problem solving process. Otherwise, US adults who tend

0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:08.880
<v Speaker 4>to divine what's getting in Timmy's way and tend to

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:13.920
<v Speaker 4>divine solutions will keep doing that and somebody very important

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:16.240
<v Speaker 4>is then going to be out of the loop. Timmy.

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, I like that you just used the word punt,

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:22.880
<v Speaker 1>doctor Green, because in my notes you never use it.

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 1>In the book, you see, it's method C, method A

0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 1>for dealing with unsolved problems A B and C. Method

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:31.640
<v Speaker 1>C is to punt. By the way, it's okay to

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.799
<v Speaker 1>punt on some problems, you just can't punt on them all.

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Is that a fair summary as well?

0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:41.720
<v Speaker 4>You're punting temporarily. I called it putting the problem on hold.

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:45.719
<v Speaker 4>When I say punting, I mean kicking the can down

0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:49.160
<v Speaker 4>the road. But these kids, these kids who have a

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 4>lot of unsolved problems, you're not going to be able

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:54.880
<v Speaker 4>to solve them all at once once they're identified. So

0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:56.320
<v Speaker 4>you're going to have to put some of them on

0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:58.719
<v Speaker 4>hold for a while until you can get to them,

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:01.560
<v Speaker 4>or until you feel like the kid is actually able

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 4>to meet the expectation. We've been causing a lot of

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:09.800
<v Speaker 4>concerning behavior in our schools by putting expectations on kids

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 4>we already know they can't meet. Who should you ask

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 4>about that? They're teachers.

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll be right back with doctor Ross Green, author of

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 1>the brand new book The Kids who Aren't Okay. And

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:24.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're the parent, teacher, and grandparent, friend of one

0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:27.320
<v Speaker 1>of the kids who Aren't Okay, that's ten to fifteen percent.

0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>You want to get this book and you want to

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:32.880
<v Speaker 1>go and find Lives in the Balance dot org. Stay ten.

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Walking back in America, I'm Hugh Herett with doctor Ross Green,

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about the ten to fifteen percent of

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 1>America is fifty million, roughly K through twelve students who

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:51.120
<v Speaker 1>have unsolved problems and therefore become discipline issues and sometimes

0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:54.360
<v Speaker 1>lead to crisis in the classroom. Everybody loses. It doesn't

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:59.560
<v Speaker 1>have to be that way, but the complex, this military

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 1>industry complex of education, has been spinning out the same

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>solution for decades and it's not working, Doctor Green over

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 1>on page fifty five. Yeah, the closer look, where does

0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:14.919
<v Speaker 1>the National Education Association stand on restraint and seclusion? Which

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:16.400
<v Speaker 1>is the typical approach.

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 14>And there follows four of the densest pages of gobbledegook

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:23.840
<v Speaker 14>because the NEA doesn't really want to tell people what

0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 14>to do. I'm very glad you approached it that way

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 14>because I wanted to see they really just don't want

0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 14>to say anything, do they.

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 4>I think that it's been hard for them to take

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 4>a strong stand, and that might be in fact, I

0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 4>suspect this is the case because they are hearing from

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:51.880
<v Speaker 4>their constituents that they still need these obsolete practices. Restraining

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:55.800
<v Speaker 4>meaning pinning a kid to the ground, usually by three

0:57:55.840 --> 0:58:00.720
<v Speaker 4>to four adults. Seclusion meaning throwing the kid into a

0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:06.440
<v Speaker 4>locked or blocked closet sized seclusion room. There's a lot

0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:10.080
<v Speaker 4>of educators who still believe that those practices are necessary

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:14.600
<v Speaker 4>and point to how difficult some of their students are

0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 4>as evidence of that. The students are still difficult because

0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:23.920
<v Speaker 4>of the other obsolete practices that we continue to apply

0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:27.640
<v Speaker 4>to them. If they don't do better, you're going to

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 4>get them into a frustration response. You are going to

0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 4>do what seems like a necessary practice, pin into the ground,

0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:42.120
<v Speaker 4>throw them into a closet sized room. When educators implement

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 4>the CPS model, those practices pretty much disappear because they're

0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:49.680
<v Speaker 4>not necessary anymore.

0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, doctor Green, I want to stress this. When people

0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:58.080
<v Speaker 1>do the AUSP, the assessment as student as you know,

0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm terrible as up. Yeah, assessment AUSP of skills and

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:08.919
<v Speaker 1>problem assessment of unsolved problems. When they do the AUSP,

0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:12.040
<v Speaker 1>they are going to get a long list, and you

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>encourage them. Don't hesitate to split the problem into its

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:20.320
<v Speaker 1>composite parts. That by the way, an engineering solution. Don't

0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:22.880
<v Speaker 1>try and solve everything in one long assessment of the

0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:27.479
<v Speaker 1>but take the time to list the component parts. That's

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:30.880
<v Speaker 1>hard for people because when they write something down, they

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 1>know they're going to have to confront it. Can you

0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 1>get that message through? Break it down? Break it It's

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:39.320
<v Speaker 1>like diagramming a sentence diagram the problems.

0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 4>So just as a concrete example, and maybe this goes

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 4>back to engineering, I'm not sure. We're not going to

0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:48.480
<v Speaker 4>write down We're not going to try to talk with

0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:51.560
<v Speaker 4>the kid about the unsolved problem of difficulty doing math.

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 4>It's too broad, right, And in this model, there's three steps.

0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:59.520
<v Speaker 4>The first step is that we're gathering information from the kid,

1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 4>who's our number one source of information on what's making

1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 4>it hard for them to meet a particular expectation. People

1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:10.440
<v Speaker 4>are often skeptical about that part. They often ask me,

1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:12.960
<v Speaker 4>what makes you think the kid knows? And my answer

1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:17.000
<v Speaker 4>is thirty five years of asking. But if we ask

1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:19.360
<v Speaker 4>the kid what's making it hard for you to do

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:21.000
<v Speaker 4>the math, you're going to get out on no, because

1:00:21.000 --> 1:00:23.960
<v Speaker 4>it's too broad. We've got to get more specific. We've

1:00:24.000 --> 1:00:26.880
<v Speaker 4>got to get more micro. What's making it hard for

1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:29.480
<v Speaker 4>you to complete the double digit division problems on the

1:00:29.560 --> 1:00:33.640
<v Speaker 4>worksheet in math. I'm always telling caregivers be prepared for

1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:37.240
<v Speaker 4>surprises when you ask, because you are likely to learn

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:39.280
<v Speaker 4>that what you thought was getting in the kid's way

1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:42.920
<v Speaker 4>is not what's getting in the kid's way. This is

1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:46.880
<v Speaker 4>how we partner with kids on solving problems you.

1:00:47.000 --> 1:00:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Also recommend very early in the school year, if not

1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:53.720
<v Speaker 1>before it begins triage, And by that you do not

1:00:53.920 --> 1:00:58.200
<v Speaker 1>mean tracking or tearing, You do not mean segregation. What

1:00:58.280 --> 1:00:59.880
<v Speaker 1>do you mean by triage.

1:01:01.560 --> 1:01:03.760
<v Speaker 4>Knowing what's walking in the door before it walks in

1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:08.360
<v Speaker 4>the door. We should have much better communication from one

1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:10.880
<v Speaker 4>year to the next. Every educator would agree with that.

1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:14.680
<v Speaker 4>But if all we're communicating about from one year to

1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:19.480
<v Speaker 4>the next is the kid's frustration response their behavior, then

1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:23.960
<v Speaker 4>next year's teacher has absolutely no idea what expectations this

1:01:24.080 --> 1:01:27.480
<v Speaker 4>kid is having difficulty needing, how some of those problems

1:01:27.520 --> 1:01:31.520
<v Speaker 4>got solved the year before. They are pretty much going

1:01:31.600 --> 1:01:37.000
<v Speaker 4>in with blinders on. That's not continuity of care. That's

1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:41.080
<v Speaker 4>not good care. And schools are providing care for a

1:01:41.160 --> 1:01:44.280
<v Speaker 4>lot of our kids who aren't doing very well. The

1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:47.840
<v Speaker 4>care that schools provide could be better than it is

1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:50.480
<v Speaker 4>if we could just get out of our own way.

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<v Speaker 4>You mentioned tears. Tears refers to this organizational method called

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<v Speaker 4>multi tiered systems of support, which many people love, but

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<v Speaker 4>I find I'm neutral. I find that we end up

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<v Speaker 4>talking more about tears, which is what level of support

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<v Speaker 4>this is going kid is going to need? Than we

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<v Speaker 4>do about kids, and that's past Awkwards.

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<v Speaker 1>I compliment your use of the need to judge children,

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<v Speaker 1>assess children based on their level of acuity, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>a very accordion term. You're trying throughout this book to

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<v Speaker 1>dispense with the traditional stuff. And by the way, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Green does not dismiss the problems of cell phones. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't dismiss the problem of porn, he doesn't dismiss bullying,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't dismiss anything. He just puts them all into

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<v Speaker 1>the stew that is causing these unsolved problems. And the

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<v Speaker 1>unsolved problems he divides into lucky ones. Okay, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>funny word to term, but crying, with drawing, sulking, whining,

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<v Speaker 1>things that elicit sympathy an unlucky one, screaming, hitting, spitting,

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<v Speaker 1>destroying that get punitive things going, and it's neither lucky

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<v Speaker 1>nor unlike. You're just trying not to exclude any unsolved problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I right about that?

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<v Speaker 4>That is correct every kid, And this is why this

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<v Speaker 4>model is good even for the kids who aren't exhibiting

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<v Speaker 4>concerning behavior, because as you noticed, I'm sure my definition

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<v Speaker 4>of good teaching is meeting every kid where they're at.

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<v Speaker 4>That's for kids whose frustration responses are more mild. That's

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<v Speaker 4>for kids whose frustration responses are bigger a frustration. No

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<v Speaker 4>matter what the frustration response, it's still communicating the exact

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<v Speaker 4>same thing. There's an expectation this student is having difficulty

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<v Speaker 4>reliably meeting. Once we get to the level of what

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<v Speaker 4>are the expectations a student is having difficulty meeting, they

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<v Speaker 4>can be identified proactively, they can be solved proactively. We

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<v Speaker 4>can get out of the heat of the moment where

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<v Speaker 4>I promise you nothing productive is going on. Though. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest chane we need to make moving from our

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<v Speaker 4>focus on behavior where we've been forever, to our focus

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<v Speaker 4>on the problems that are causing them. That is massive now.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Green. As I was reading The Kids Who Aren't Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it occurred to me you are, in fact teaching, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the teachers. When I got about halfway through the book,

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<v Speaker 1>page ninety five, the start of chapter six, putting the

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<v Speaker 1>horse back in front of the cart, you review everything

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<v Speaker 1>on page ninety five and the top of page ninety

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<v Speaker 1>six that you've written thus far, because and actually it

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<v Speaker 1>goes all the way to page ninety six. Repetition is

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<v Speaker 1>the essence of learning, right, So you're teaching the teachers

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<v Speaker 1>to do this again and again. Is it taking hold?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, in the schools that are aware of this model,

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<v Speaker 4>it is taking hold in a big way. Lives in

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<v Speaker 4>the Balance has never been busier because, quite frankly, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of leaders in education who know that what

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing right now isn't working very well, especially for

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<v Speaker 4>kids who are sluggling the most.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming back for one more segment with doctor Green.

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<v Speaker 1>The book is The Kids who Aren't Okay. It's at Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>It's at Barnes and Noble, It's at Lives in the

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<v Speaker 1>Balance as well. But all you want to do is

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<v Speaker 1>go to my at page. You'll find a link here.

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<v Speaker 1>But Kids who Aren't Okay Doctor Green will be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewittt. Now Doctor Green

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<v Speaker 1>and I have met a few times, and my journeying

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<v Speaker 1>through Maine, I mentioned Lban at the top. Doctor Green

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<v Speaker 1>is very well known for his book Lost at School,

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<v Speaker 1>very well known for The Explosive Child, very well known

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<v Speaker 1>for everything in the world of education. If a superintendent

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<v Speaker 1>or a classroom teacher who is or the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the union or a group of concerned parents wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>bring this to the attention of their district and get

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<v Speaker 1>it to actually be absorbed. How do you recommend they

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<v Speaker 1>go about that? Doctor Green, Go to.

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<v Speaker 4>The Lives and the Balance website Lives lavees in the

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<v Speaker 4>Balance dot o RG tell us what you need through

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<v Speaker 4>the contact form. We are ready to work together with

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<v Speaker 4>any school system, any individual who's looking to change things

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<v Speaker 4>for the better, especially the for the kids who are

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<v Speaker 4>struggling the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, for the school districts that decide to go so.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, everyone I know that President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is starting is a press conference. I'm sure Larry Elder

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<v Speaker 1>will have all of it, but it takes a while

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<v Speaker 1>for him to warm up. For the school districts that

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<v Speaker 1>want to embrace this, I would guess this summer they

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<v Speaker 1>could have everybody read it and get the teachers to

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<v Speaker 1>commit to doing the work early, the ausps early so

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<v Speaker 1>that they did not enter the school. Is that the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to sort of roll out system wide a

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<v Speaker 1>change from restraint and seclusion.

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<v Speaker 4>A book study is a very good place to start.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want people waiting till summer. That's a that's

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<v Speaker 4>another three months of kids and educators suffering through current practices.

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<v Speaker 4>Start right away. You can get this book read in

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<v Speaker 4>one to two weeks. Oh easy, start playing, easy easily exactly, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you could start playing. This is an easy read. I

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<v Speaker 4>like to think I write that way. I also like

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<v Speaker 4>to think it's a very practical book. Despite some of

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<v Speaker 4>the idealism in the book, this is not that hard

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<v Speaker 4>of a change to make. With commitment, with intentionality, this

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<v Speaker 4>can be done. If you want to wait till summer,

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<v Speaker 4>that's great. I just don't want to see people suffer

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<v Speaker 4>any longer than they have to now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get to the again, let's say ten to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty percent, I'll even give it. Let's say twenty percent

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<v Speaker 1>have unsolved problem. If you can reduce the number of

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<v Speaker 1>unsolved problems in half of those children to a manageable level,

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<v Speaker 1>the productivity of the entire classroom will increase, probably by

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent. Really, I can't imagine some of these things

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<v Speaker 1>in the Catholic schools of my youth. It didn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>probably because they were restraint models that people didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know about. But nowadays I hear about it a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't want that to happen. What a resource suck.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the fascinating part. One of the biggest impediments

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<v Speaker 4>when people first hear about this model is they feel

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<v Speaker 4>that they don't have time to do it. They are

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<v Speaker 4>spending mammoth amounts of time on behavior. They would be

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<v Speaker 4>spending a fraction of the time solving the problems that

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<v Speaker 4>are causing that behavior. Yes, intentionality and commitment do take time,

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<v Speaker 4>but the schools that implement this model are saving a

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<v Speaker 4>boatload of time because they are not running around like

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<v Speaker 4>chickens with their heads cut off anymore, dealing with behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Crisis from chrisis. Again. The book is The Kids who

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't Okay, The Kids who Aren't Okay. Doctor Green is

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<v Speaker 1>gran and you can find it Ross Green on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>So Doctor Rayne's Big Picture time. Are you an optimist

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<v Speaker 1>about American education getting this fixed? I am.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there are some outstanding educators out there. I

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<v Speaker 4>think the very vast majority of educators want the best

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<v Speaker 4>for their kids and love seeing them thrive. Sometimes it

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<v Speaker 4>is their training getting in the way, Sometimes it is

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<v Speaker 4>the system getting in the way. These things can be changed,

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<v Speaker 4>and by golly, I'm will get as much of that

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<v Speaker 4>change done in my lifetime as I possibly can, right

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<v Speaker 4>here from Freeport, Maine.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know why I'm an optimist. It's because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if they're in Freeport, Maine or Portland. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are trial lawyers all over the United States who

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<v Speaker 1>are going to figure out that it is not best

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<v Speaker 1>practices to restrain a child. Of course that will happen

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<v Speaker 1>in wrongful death case, but in any case, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to start suing school districts if they're not you using

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<v Speaker 1>your approach. That's that's why I'm an opt The trial

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers know there's a duty of to these children, the

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<v Speaker 1>ten to twenty percent, and if the duty is being

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<v Speaker 1>breached with damage resulting, it's a mass tort. Have anyone

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<v Speaker 1>told you that before?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh they are. It's already happening. And I am an

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<v Speaker 4>occasional participant in those lawsuits. I don't take any money

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<v Speaker 4>for it because I don't want to feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a hired gun. I just want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 4>we're treating kids the right way, making sure kids and

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<v Speaker 4>educators aren't getting hurt, and make sure that schools that

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<v Speaker 4>are still using these obsolete practices are held to account.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we are helping them do that once again.

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<v Speaker 1>The book is The Kids who Aren't Okay. It just

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<v Speaker 1>came out last week, just when the war got started,

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<v Speaker 1>so you may not have seen the regular book chore,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the CBS Morning News or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you should. The Kids who Aren't Okay needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be in every teacher, guest, in every superintendent's best and

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<v Speaker 1>every parent with a child who is being assessed with

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult child. Go and get the Kids who Aren't

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<v Speaker 1>Okay by doctor Ross Green, doctor Ring. Good to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Thank you America, be right back, say