WEBVTT - Trump: I'd Have Lebron Play in WNBA, We'd Never Lose 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:07.080 The voice of free speech, the truth delivered common sense 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:12.880 for the American people. Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show. 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.640 Scott Jennings here, I'm away today, but you are in 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.000 the capable hands of Mark Davis. Mark take it away. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:22.440 Well. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.599 I thank you, Scott, appreciate it very very much. Thank you, 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:29.800 thank you, thank you. We are gathered together to take 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:31.600 a look at a number of things going on in 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:33.960 the news and deliver a whole bunch of common sense 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.120 for the American people. Not a lot of common sense 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.640 to be found in the events out of Michigan, but 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.800 there is some redemptive common sense that we can add 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:48.960 as conservatives, as we hopefully express our wish that Mike 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.560 Rogers beats Abdullah say Ed. I think that's going to happen. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:55.600 I have a feeling that Hailey Stevens would have been 0:00:56.240 --> 0:01:01.160 harder to beat. I don't know. Now, there's no way 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.000 to find out. There's no time tunnel to go back 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:04.880 and have her win and have her run against Mike 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:10.360 Rodgers too. But this is a DSA radical and is 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.280 is he gonna be the flavor of the month in 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.360 November in Michigan? I don't know. But here's what I 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.240 do now. I'm Mark Davison for Scott. Scott's back tomorrow. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.920 I'm the Happy morning host at six sixty am. The 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.040 answer here in Dallas Fort Worth, where I join you from, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.720 and whether you are joining us on the Salem News 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.840 Channel or the Salem Radio Network, listing or watching, we 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.880 are very very grateful now. A stock in trade of 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:35.800 anything I do on my own show, or when I 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.280 go fill an in for for anybody or everybody, as 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.520 the case may be, is to toss out the phone 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.800 number and let you participate. That number is eight four 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:48.120 four eight six one five five three seven. That's eight 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.960 four four eight six one five five three seven. We're 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.080 gonna have a lot to say about Michigan. We're gonna 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.520 have a few things to say about men in women's sports. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:01.160 Caitlin Wheeler, who is swimming alongside Riley Gains and that 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.800 means well, actually not at the same time, swimming alongside 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.760 Leah Thomas. That dude. She'll be with us. At the 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.639 bottom of this hour, We're going to talk to the 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.880 VP of pat Most about Ai Kyler Schmidtz. And we 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.600 talked to a gentleman, Eric Eggers, who's very much about 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.120 government accountability and fraud and all those good things. But 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.440 obviously there's all those great guests. But there's you, and 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.000 there's me, and there's the magic phone numbers eight four 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.320 to four, eight six, one five five three seven eight 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.440 four four eight six one five five three seven Follow 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.639 me in the world of Twitter on X at Mark 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.520 Davis m A R. K. Davis And there you go. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.440 I think that's about all we need. And by way 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.840 of introduction, so let's get going. Here's a guy who's 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:45.040 introducing himself to us as the as the freshly anointed nominee. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.720 This was this carried overnight. I wondered if this was 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:49.600 going to be one of those five or six or 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.519 twenty three day elections. Usually you get those when Democrats 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.000 are running against Republicans where you go to bed at 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.640 night and you wake up and the Democrats suddenly have 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.960 this this spike of suddenly discovered votes. How do they 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:07.200 do that? How did that happen? When it's Democrat versus Democrat, establishment, 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:12.720 Democrat versus progressive DSA creature? Where do you dump the votes? 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.360 Where does the Democrat cheating machine fall on that? Whom 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:18.760 do they want more? You might think it's kind of 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.840 an establishment thing, and so maybe they were like scouring 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.480 people's trunks and you know, in the crack of their 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:28.760 seats for Haley Stevens votes. But no abdulasa Ed has prevailed. 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.600 So this has cut one him this morning after that 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.160 narrow primary win. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.720 You're not supposed to be able to beat seventy million 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.200 dollars of outside spending, a record amount of money spent 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.560 in a campaign against a Democrat in a primary, in 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:45.680 any campaign. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.120 You're not supposed to be able to beat that. 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.680 And what we showed is that the power of our 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.880 many is greater than the power of their money. What 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:55.560 we showed is that if you're willing to build a 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.200 movement brick by brick, if you're willing to go and 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.800 travel your state and have the conversation and rooms big 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.320 and small, starting in moments when people aren't even paying 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.760 attention to an election, but are paying attention to the 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.600 price of gas and the price of groceries, and the 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.640 price of housing and the price of healthcare, that you 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:13.080 can build a conversation that builds into a movement that 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:14.480 defeats Goliath. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:18.120 This is what you all showed me. 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.600 And my hope is that our democracy will never be 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.800 the same. So when big Pharma and big Tech, when 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.200 DT and Blue Cross come a knocking saying, you know what, 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.240 this is our democracy and we're going to own it 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.880 from here on now, we can always point and say no, 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.560 this is the people's democracy and we will always own it. 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.800 This is one thing you got to recognize. This guy 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.200 is good. That is a campaign skill set that you 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.160 saw right there. I mean, he's wrong on every issue 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.520 and dangerous in too many ways to count. But you 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.600 know that's me talking. That's just us among family out 0:04:55.640 --> 0:05:00.919 there objectively in the mushy middle among independence and underestimate 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:05.400 the power of the crack pipe of free stuff paid 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.240 for by other people's money. That has always been a 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:12.760 tool of the Democrats. These people, the mom Donnis, the aocs, 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:17.920 the squad people are really good at handing that out. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.840 And so it's gonna be a tough fight for Mike Rogers. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.599 But I think we've done ourselves a solid by seeing 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.840 this guy win in Michigan rather than Haley Stevens. What 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.160 was that interesting turn of a phrase, The power of 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:36.600 our many outweighed the power of their money. As if 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.320 he doesn't have big money, as if he's not going 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:43.040 to spend big money in the campaign against Mike Rogers. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.599 In fact, it's funny because if there's anything that is 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:50.240 one of the talking points, one of the index cards 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.159 of these people is we need to get is it 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.280 that we need to get big money out of politics 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.640 or get money out of politics at all? I mean 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:02.320 they defund the Pentagon or a Pentagon, defund ice or 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:07.800 execute ice. I mean, by the day these things change money. 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:15.960 Campaign spending is free speech. Campaign spending is free speech. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.760 The contribution you make to a candidate is your right 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:24.720 to finance that candidate's campaign. By the way, the money 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.679 that is donated by an organization like a teachers union 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.360 or the NRA, those would be different candidates. That's also 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.000 their free speech. Now there should be I'm a big 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:41.479 believer in no limits, no limits, ah, but wait, full disclosure, 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.640 so that if candidate A just got an enormous amount 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:50.080 of money from a pack American Israeli political action committee, 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:54.200 you can either like that or not like that. If 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.080 a candidate gets a bunch of money from the NRA, 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:01.600 you can either like that or not like So, no limits, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.440 but full disclosure. Well, here's a little full disclosure from 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:10.560 Bernie Sanders. This is cut too, because alongside Abdul al 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.960 Sayed you will occasionally find this social media figure named 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:20.200 Hassan Piker the America deserved nine to eleven and I'm 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:24.920 in favor of hamas guy. Having him on the stage 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:29.520 doesn't mean that Abdul al Sayed holds those exact views, 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:35.480 but it does mean that he considers those views to 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:41.040 be congruent enough that he's willing to hang publicly with 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.640 this guy. So here is Bernie Sanders and say what 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:49.360 you all about, Bernie. Bernie looks positively conventional compared to 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:53.840 some of these folks. This is cut too, Bernie talking 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.360 about abdul Sayed and the Piker partnership. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.760 One of the more controversial ones is that Piker has 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.400 said America deserved nine to eleven. Are you comfortable with 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:05.240 that association? 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.200 No, I am not. I think that's a dumb statement. 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.240 On the other hand, he has a whole lot of followism. 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.080 There's a lot of things that he's saying that are 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.080 making sense to a lot of people. I think, you know, 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.960 we have to get above cancel culture. You know, when 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.200 you're doing radio whatever they do, the podcasts three hours 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.520 a day, you say dumb things. I suspect if you 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.560 go back over your career there may be one or 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.160 two things that you said that you may have regretted. 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.800 But I think what we have got to do is 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.440 look at the totality of where people are coming from 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:34.600 and go forward. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.120 So when someone like James Carvill says he doesn't want 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.880 to be in the same political party as Hassan Piker, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:44.800 which one are you going to take? 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.200 Well, that's not much of a choice. 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.800 So mister Kovell doesn't want to be in my party, 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.520 the party that I belong to, that Pika that I'll 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.240 sell us as sayed belongs to. 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.040 He can start his own party. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.040 But I think we need a big tent, and I 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.000 think people like Piker uh I should be welcome into that. Certainly. 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.560 Wow, that's a lot to unpack for I love this. 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.839 First of all, he has a lot of followers. He has, 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.160 so does Candace Owens, but I'm not shoming around with her. 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:20.800 H And the other thing is U he's on for 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.160 three hours, give somebody three hours, they're gonna say something crazy. 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.200 I am prove positive of that, but it ain't that crazy. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:28.920 I don't think at any point on my talk show 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:30.520 or the Scott Jennings Show him to say, Hey, you 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.800 know what, I think nine to eleven was awesome. What's 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.600 how did that happen? Must be one of those crazy mistakes. No, no, no, no, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.560 no no. Bernie's having a tough time figuring the degree 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:44.079 of radicalism that exists within the party. He says he 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.079 loves Mark Davison for Scott eight four four eight six 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.400 one five five three seven. Let's chat. Good to be with. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.839 You got a thought and your two cents at eight 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.520 four four a six one five five three seven. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.920 That's eight four four a six one five five three seven. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.280 It's the Scott Jennings Show for a Wednesday, the fifth 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.160 day of August. Mark Davis filling in today on the 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:15.360 morning after the Michigan Democrats express their taste. We are 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.520 six days away from South Carolina Republicans doing the same thing. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:27.000 Early voting underway in South Carolina for a primary that 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.920 that will be one and nobody's gonna win it outright. 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.800 I don't think anybody's get to fifty percent. I think 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.760 your top two are gonna be Darlene Graham and Ralph Norman, 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.800 and then Ralph's gonna win it. In the runoff on 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.520 August twenty fifth. That's just my thought. And there's nothing 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.959 against Darlene. I think she's acquitted herself. Well. She did 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.000 really nicely in the debate the other night. But for 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:53.160 every South Carolinian who thinks that's so sweet, she's Lindsay's sister, 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.600 we love Lindsay. Let's do the family a solid. There 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.560 might be two voters who go, love you, ma'am, but 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.880 we got to go with somebody with a track record. 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.560 But that's next week, and we'll get to that next week, 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.839 and Scott will cover that like a blanket next week. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.520 We got actually some audio and video of Scott on 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:14.600 CNN last night amid this development in Michigan. But before 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.120 we get to that, let's talk about a little bit 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.600 of what the Democrats are doing with this piece of news. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.840 This is a little bit of John Fetterman, who is 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:29.120 like the dying breed of reasonable Democrat. Again, when Bernie 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:33.640 Sanders is struggling because the party has become too crazy 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.679 for him, imagine what it's like to be just a 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:41.520 sort of a normal center left person who not only 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.800 doesn't hate Israel, but actually supports Israel. And this is 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.920 what we're going to see, Fetterman asked about here, and 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.640 the reason there's so much attention to this in conservative 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.480 media is we got there are two things we got 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.839 to do. We got to talk about our side so 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.360 that our side can do the best job possible of 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.840 making pitch to the American people so that we're not 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.760 you know, kicked to the curb in the midterms November third, 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:09.079 which everybody expects. I don't more on that later. Doesn't 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.559 mean I'm guaranteeing a red wave. Let's not be crazy. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.280 But I think that a lot of this narrative of 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.800 the shellacking we're going to get is premature, and you know, 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.400 let's let's let's let's get through the fall and see 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.600 what things look like. But this is what it looked like. 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.520 As John Fetterman was asked about what, you know, his 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:30.520 standout status. This has cut three of actually daring to 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:31.439 support Israel. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.320 Why is Israel another country? You're a redline right now? 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.360 This is what your critics are saying, rather than a 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.560 domestic issue that impacts Americans everyday lives. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.280 Yeah, absolutely, and I agree with a lot of Democrats too. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.600 And then when you migrate into these extreme kinds of 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:52.400 use and embrace the kinds of people that should really 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:56.640 be considered toxic. So, of course I'm entitled to my opinion. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.320 And if you're proud to campaign with those individuals, great, 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.040 that's really up up to them, you know, you know 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:06.960 I called trash platner. I go that he's he is 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:11.080 a real problem. And now why people seem to be 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:11.679 okay with it? 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:12.160 You know? 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:12.400 Why? 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:12.880 Why was? 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:13.480 Why was? 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:14.120 Why was? 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.680 Why was Bernie Sanders okay with the guy? And he 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:22.520 was already the Nazi tattoo and after all the allegations 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.880 of roughing up his ex girlfriends and saying terrible things 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.560 in defensible things online, and you would push these kinds 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:36.240 of candidates that put our ability to reclaim majority at serious. 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:42.360 Rip precisely, And that's why conservative media covers this so tightly, 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.640 because we have a dual job. I mean, liberal media 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:47.840 has a dual job. They should And here's what's funny. 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.120 Liberal media does a terrible job of covering us. They 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.840 don't even know what we believe. They they misstate what 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.679 we believe, they mischaracterize what we believe. If you there 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.120 is no better place to learn what's going on in 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.640 Democrat America than conservative media because we've all become students 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:09.000 of the crazy things they say. We keep entire catalogs 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.720 and file folders of the things that they stand for. Now, 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.480 obviously we have a lot of opinions about those things, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:19.040 but I well know, I well know what these DSA 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.560 people stand for. It was Fox News that had the 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.000 Lady on with Shannon Bring the other day going through 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.640 the punch list. Abolish the police, sure, get rid of 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:33.120 the Pentagon. Yep, no more President or Senate. Absolutely, it's 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.880 in their own words. It's in their own words. So 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.920 as we stare down the barrel of probably unfortunate metaphor 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:45.000 as we approach the mid terms on the sixth of November, 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:50.280 the fate of the Democrat Party, what's happening to them 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.400 is just the best opposition research that we can do. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.800 And if indeed the ascendancy of Abdula el Sayet is 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.320 good news for micro rogers in Michigan, that's a flip. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.960 That is a Democrat seat that becomes a Republican seat. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.960 And for those unfamiliar here in my state of Texas, 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.480 there is zero chance this James Tallerico is going to 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.800 beat Ken Paxton, despite the poll numbers you may see, 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:18.800 might have a word or two to say about that 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:20.960 in a little bit. But I know who's got a 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.080 word or two to say about men and women's sports, 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.000 and that's a young lady who is swimming alongside Riley 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.320 Gaines at Kentucky named Caitlin Wheeler. Let's welcome her and 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.240 we'll talk about some of the athletes who are vocal 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.640 about this and some who are choosing not to be. 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.120 Mark Davison for Scott stick around Happy Wednesday. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.720 You want to drive a leftist crazy, tell the truth 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:42.160 and keep smiling. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:47.240 This is the Scott Jetty Show. 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.880 Scott is back tomorrow. Mark Davis filling in on this Wednesday, 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.840 August fifth. I don't think it's just me. It has 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:59.040 been a kind of a news heavy a few weeks 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.080 and months on the whole issue of trans lunacy. It 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:06.000 feels like the pendulum is swinging back towards some degree 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.480 of sanity. But we still have a lot more to do, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.320 a lot more progress, and of course the most important 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.200 thing is we can't be carving up our healthy children 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.160 as part of this demonic cult. We just can't be 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.960 doing that. Eventually, the discussion absolutely goes towards sports and 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.160 what is and is not fair, and we're all very, 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.560 very familiar with the heroism of people like Riley Gaines. 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.000 Most recently in the world of tennis, Arena Sablenka was 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.400 asked about the WTA and she said, yeah, I think 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.160 I'm pretty good with the of the gender test and 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.720 making sure I'm not to playing tennis against a man. 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.040 So let's go back into the pool, though, Let's go 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.239 back into the world of swimming with another story of heroism. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:49.200 Fellow Kentucky Wildcat, Caitlyn Wheeler is here with a story 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.520 to tell and some thoughts to share. In Caitlyn, it's 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.600 a pleasure to meet you. How are you doing, young lady. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.000 I'm doing great, Mark, thanks so much for having me on. 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.640 Let's meet you. You're a Riley Gains teammate. But you're 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.600 if I'm doing my homework right, a homeschool homeschool girl 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.199 from Illinois at the Origins correct. 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:12.800 Absolutely great research there. 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:13.120 Yeah. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:17.560 I grew up a swimmer and for most of my life, 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.639 you know that that was my entire world. I always 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.720 joke that when you've spent eighteen years staring at a 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.680 black line at the bottom of the swimming pool, You 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.280 learn a lot about discipline, You learn a lot about 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.800 how to sacrifice, you know things greater than yourself. You 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.840 learn how to be uncomfortable, you learn how to show 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.160 up when nobody is watching. And I was fortunate enough 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.520 to earn a full scholarship to University of Kentucky, where 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.680 I swam with Riley and competed at Division one SEC school, 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.159 which I would be a mistified it mention it's the 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.919 best conference there. I became an All American and SEC 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.119 champion and had the opportunity to compete at the NCAA Championships, 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.600 which is where I ultimately first encountered this whole men 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.000 and women's sports issue. But sports gave me a lot, 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:01.440 So that's why I'm here. 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:04.680 Let's go right to that event. I want to say. 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.920 The year was twenty twenty two. You guys are it 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.040 Georgia Tech in Atlanta. It's got to be heady stuff. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:11.639 It's like, wow, look at here we are in the 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:16.719 Swimming and Diving Championships. Described it? What was the moment 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.600 where you real you and Riley both have this story 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.480 to tell and others also where it's like that guy 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:28.399 from University of that girl supposedly from the University of 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:32.640 Pennsylvania is an actual man. What was the moment did 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.240 you know this going in that this was possible? How 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.680 did this dawn on you? 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:41.840 You know, it was never a thought that even crossed 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.639 my mind that we would ever be in this situation 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.000 going into this encable a meet. You know, halfway through 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:51.200 the season, we realized that this person who we had 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.639 never heard the name Leah Thomas before in past years, 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.440 who's you know, a senior from University of Pennsylvania. Who 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:02.080 isn't this school isn't notorious for generating you know, high 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.760 high level athletes. I mean, they hardly make it to this, 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.199 you know, national championship meet in the first place. But 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.640 to have someone who is dominating the entire country by 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.080 seconds and swimming, that's a lot. You know, it stuck out. 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.040 But then to realize and find out in a news 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.919 article that this person wasn't a woman, This was a 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.159 man who was competing in the women's category. I was 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.480 shocked that this was even happening, But I never thought 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.600 that it would reach the instead of a you know, 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.320 this is an organization who you know, is outspoken about 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.240 Title nine, is outspoken about protecting its female athletes, So 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.919 to be at that meet and to really see, you know, 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.080 what's on the line here when we allow men to 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.640 compete with women, I watch very closely. I competed at 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.479 this meet and changed in the locker room with this 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:50.680 man where he was he exposed himself to us and 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.159 while we were simultaneously undressing. It was very uncomfortable. But 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.920 what was really heartbreaking was to see the devastation on 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:59.480 the cool deck, the heartbreak. You know, these girls who 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.520 I've known for or you know, majority of my career 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.720 being sidelined, you know, teammates of mine being sidelined on podiums. 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.520 It was really heartbreaking, but really put into perspective the 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.960 importance of the women's sporting category and the opportunities that 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.960 Title nine has provided to us as female athletes. That 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.480 really woke me up to you know, this issue and 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:22.960 why we need people to step up and speak up 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.040 about it. We've come a long way since then, but 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:29.000 obviously we're still having this same conversation, but I think 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.320 more and more people have had the courage to stand up. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.720 So I'm very hopeful to be here. I'm very thankful 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.879 for Sophia Cunningham, who has taken such a bold stance, 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.719 you know, it's not easy to do. So very happy 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:41.240 to have her on our side. 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.560 It's been a wonderful thing to see. And in fact, 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:46.640 that takes me to a couple of questions about that. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:52.000 When you're at an NCAA swim meet, I'm going to 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:55.199 guess that it doesn't necessarily feel like it's a particularly 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:59.240 political thing. I mean, we all know colleges skew left Kentucky, 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.280 maybe a little less, penn probably a lot more, But 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.080 you don't feel like you're steeped in politics. On thinking, 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:09.639 then the WNBA you absolutely do. So for Sophie Cunningham 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.360 to dare to say, you know, I don't think men 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:16.080 ought to be in women's sports, what was It's just 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.119 a bell Weather moment. She's getting, well, she's getting a 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:20.840 lot of love and a lot of hate, which I 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:21.920 guess you can relate to. 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.760 Absolutely. You know, sports is supposed to be a place 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.960 where you know, everyone's included, and I think that's where 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.680 a lot of people are asking questions. Is you know 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.280 the WNBA exists because women have their own athletic category. 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:41.160 It's the foundation women fought for the opportunities to compete, 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.359 to have scholarships, to have these professional leagues, and to 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:48.320 have spaces where athletic achievements are celebrated. So I think 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.840 it's fair to ask these organizations, like the NCAA, like 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:56.760 the WNBA, how can these organizations that were created to 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.879 celebrate women be so hesitant to defend the thing that 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:04.560