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Speaker 1: Hey out there to all of our friends from Banter Town,

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Speaker 1: this is John. As you've probably heard by now after

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Speaker 1: 10 years of Talk About That episodes airing most every week,

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Speaker 1: Johnny and I have hit an especially busy season in

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Speaker 1: both of our lives that has required us to take

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Speaker 1: a little hiatus from weekly episodes. Hey, but fear not.

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Speaker 1: We'd still like to bring you some of the best

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Speaker 1: of Talk About That. These are some of our most

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Speaker 1: downloaded episodes from the past several years. So whether you're

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Speaker 1: hearing these conversations again or discovering them for the first time,

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Speaker 1: we hope you'll enjoy diving back into some of our

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Speaker 1: favorite talks. As always, thanks so much for listening, and

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Speaker 2: Life Audio Today on Talk About That, John reads a

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Speaker 2: listener email and wishes we could be a zany morning

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Speaker 2: zoo radio show. Meanwhile, I have an important retraction from

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Speaker 2: last week because I'm stupid. and tell you about some

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Speaker 2: wild wedding proposals on Leap Day in 13th century Scotland. Plus,

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Speaker 2: a conversation about neighbors, enemies, and America's addiction to grievance.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode is not sponsored by driving directions from old people.

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Speaker 2: Less accurate than GPS, but also way more condescending. But first,

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Speaker 2: a word from our actual sponsor.

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Speaker 1: Coming at you from Mount Julie, Tennessee, Johnny, it's another

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Speaker 1: episode of Talk About That.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we're coming at you.

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Speaker 3: We're coming right at you.

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Speaker 2: Watch out. It was a very 20-somethings. You don't think I'm...

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Speaker 2: Like a morning zoo radio show.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the billboards around town for... They're always...

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Speaker 1: The billboards for a morning zoo show are always like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know where they went.

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Speaker 1: You always have to know their schedules. When we say

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Speaker 3: We met someone today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. who had listened to all 300 and what? I

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Speaker 2: Sure. Corey's Dog House.

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Speaker 1: And they're from different parts. You get a Memphis dog

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Speaker 2: Not from different parts of the animal. Of the country. Okay.

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Speaker 1: And... On the wall, there's like all these Polaroids if

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Speaker 1: And I said, let's have them take a Polaroid of

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Speaker 2: And then somebody else said, what's a Polaroid?

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Speaker 1: And then you said, what if they lied?

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Speaker 1: Right, on a YouTube channel that barely gets any. Now, look, people,

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Speaker 2: What do you mean you're not going to say why?

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Speaker 3: Even though you don't own, I don't own a firearm.

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Speaker 3: I was like, wow, that took me on a journey.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about YouTube videos.

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Speaker 2: Oh, but feeling shame, feeling guilt for something you didn't do. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He's like, your responsible guy feels responsible for everything and

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't... Communication's a really funny one.

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Speaker 2: do dinner! Let's get lunch, dude! Right.

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Speaker 1: Because in my world, what'll happen is, people are often

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Speaker 1: Six months later, they're upset about something. They're like, well,

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Speaker 2: I think you're assuming right now that that person has

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Speaker 3: I have been blamed many times.

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Speaker 2: We spent too much time last week. I wish you

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Speaker 3: Like I had a real good, like, okay, that makes

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Speaker 3: Remember that? That's kind of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, this does feel, it feels conducive to creativity

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Speaker 1: I was walking around a tournament this weekend, just like

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Speaker 2: They just thought you were old volleyball dad.

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Speaker 2: He's old parents. What can you do? He just had

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Speaker 3: And God love them.

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Speaker 2: And I realized after we shot it, the minute we rewrapped,

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing. Here's the deal, too. Let me

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Speaker 3: This is funny. We have a mutual friend, very close

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Speaker 3: And I thought, I just thought that's just what I

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Speaker 3: And he said, Johnny used that joke last week.

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Speaker 3: And I said, I've been hanging out with Johnny too much.

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Speaker 2: I'll be wearing a red carnation. No cops or I

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Right. I'm getting ready to do a comedy show for

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Speaker 2: Is he going to say that kind of stuff on stage?

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Speaker 1: I was not thinking about Johnny W. at all when

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Speaker 2: You are a no good joke thief. And you must

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Speaker 3: I just like me.

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Speaker 2: You alter it one little bit. You go, black carnation. Ah,

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Speaker 3: Now it's a John.

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Speaker 2: Now it's what we call a John in the industry.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of industry, John, we've got to keep these lights on,

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Speaker 2: And to keep those lights on, we have advertisers. We

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Speaker 3: Just like the billboards say.

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Speaker 3: I want a billboard with me and you.

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Speaker 2: That says we're back. And they go away so we

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I saw, if you see these around Nashville,

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Speaker 2: Not like our wonderful.

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Speaker 3: And it's funny because we're really laughing the whole time.

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Speaker 2: Right. That's me.

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Speaker 3: I guess, poses.

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Speaker 2: All right, now hold this chicken.

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Speaker 2: The other guy just shouts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was just like, I didn't, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's all around town. Maybe the show's great.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's what we're missing is we don't have that,

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Speaker 3: That's what we would probably do.

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Speaker 3: We don't have to even try.

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Speaker 2: We don't need help.

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Speaker 2: You know what it reminded me of? I was driving yesterday,

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Speaker 2: what you wanted was a CD player with a detachable face. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Because back then, you didn't carry an electronic device around

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Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, we got an email from a listener.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

448
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Speaker 3: Who had taken on this topic.

449
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Speaker 2: Yes, read it. Do you have it?

450
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Speaker 1: I do.

451
00:18:00,022 --> 00:18:01,852
Speaker 2: Because it was. It was nice. And I thought, well,

452
00:18:01,871 --> 00:18:04,032
Speaker 2: you know what? We got one. We're going to change

453
00:18:04,072 --> 00:18:06,612
Speaker 2: the world. We're not the bad kind of podcasters. We

454
00:18:06,632 --> 00:18:12,002
Speaker 2: just give misinformation about what dearth means. Right. But other

455
00:18:12,022 --> 00:18:14,262
Speaker 2: than that, we're good people. We're trying out here.

456
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Speaker 3: We're trying. This is Grant Morgan. Thank you for listening, Grant.

457
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Speaker 1: He said, I recently decided to reduce my phone usage.

458
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Speaker 1: I started carrying a book around with me, something we

459
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Speaker 1: talked about on an episode.

460
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's our idea, but maybe Grant was inspired.

461
00:18:29,621 --> 00:18:31,442
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, what if I carried a book?

462
00:18:31,462 --> 00:18:33,042
Speaker 2: We didn't invent books. I want to go ahead and

463
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Speaker 2: say that.

464
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Speaker 1: Guys, I've invented a few books. But anyway, instead of

465
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Speaker 1: reaching for my phone, I start reading. In two weeks,

466
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Speaker 1: I've read eight books.

467
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Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't read that part. I didn't get that far.

468
00:18:43,391 --> 00:18:46,731
Speaker 2: I looked at my phone. I really did.

469
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Speaker 1: My mind is clear. My average screen time is down

470
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Speaker 1: to 15 minutes a day. For the first week, I still...

471
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Speaker 1: All right, now you're just bragging, Grant. He said, I

472
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Speaker 1: would naturally still reach for my phone for the first week,

473
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Speaker 1: but now I no longer even have the urge to

474
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Speaker 1: reach for my phone. I even started turning my phone

475
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Speaker 1: completely off on Sundays. Grant, you are my hero. And

476
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Speaker 1: I got to be honest with you, that idea I

477
00:19:04,522 --> 00:19:06,461
Speaker 1: had of carrying the book around, I've not done.

478
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I tried one day. Grant

479
00:19:09,121 --> 00:19:11,302
Speaker 2: is the test case for your theory. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He's doing, you know, the Bible talks about hearers and doers.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?

482
00:19:16,581 --> 00:19:17,841
Speaker 3: He is a doer of the word.

483
00:19:18,061 --> 00:19:18,262
Speaker 1: Right.

484
00:19:18,681 --> 00:19:21,142
Speaker 3: I'm just a hearer only, which means I deceive myself.

485
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Speaker 3: I think it's what the scriptures say.

486
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Speaker 2: I've been saying it for years, even if the scripture hadn't.

487
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Speaker 3: But well done, man. That's amazing.

488
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Speaker 2: Go, Grant.

489
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Speaker 3: Let's all.

490
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Speaker 2: 15 minutes. I spent 15. That's one bathroom trip. 15

491
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Speaker 2: minutes on your phone?

492
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Speaker 1: I had that thought because of the tournament going to

493
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Speaker 1: the bathroom. I thought every person in this entire huge

494
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Speaker 1: bathroom with all these stalls, they all have their phones

495
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Speaker 1: with them. And I went to Bucky's and thought the

496
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Speaker 1: same thing. I thought, what would life be like now

497
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Speaker 1: without a phone?

498
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Speaker 2: I like when I'm in the airport and someone is

499
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Speaker 2: in the stall next to me. And I hear them

500
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Speaker 2: on a very important business call. And they're like, no,

501
00:19:53,112 --> 00:19:55,152
Speaker 2: I can talk now. And I so want to shout out,

502
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Speaker 2: he's on the toilet. Like, I want to ruin his business.

503
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Speaker 2: Because he's trying to have a normal encounter. But it's

504
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Speaker 2: not normal. It's not normal. Just let it go to

505
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Speaker 2: voicemail and call the guy back when you're not pooping.

506
00:20:07,112 --> 00:20:09,512
Speaker 3: Maybe you should like, hey, you got any extra toilet paper?

507
00:20:09,592 --> 00:20:10,331
Speaker 1: Yeah, something. More subtle.

508
00:20:10,351 --> 00:20:15,841
Speaker 3: He's pooping. Hey, John, it's about that time.

509
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Speaker 2: Oh, is it?

510
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my quote of the week, a little segment

511
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Speaker 1: we call They Talked About That.

512
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Speaker 2: Let's see if I can get the note here.

513
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Speaker 1: Hmm.

514
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Speaker 3: It was better today.

515
00:20:33,842 --> 00:20:34,321
Speaker 2: Pretty close.

516
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Speaker 3: It was better. I think we have our monitors a

517
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Speaker 3: little louder than usual.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need it. We're going deaf over here.

519
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Speaker 3: I've heard some of the other stuff we've done.

520
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Speaker 2: Okay.

521
00:20:43,072 --> 00:20:43,671
Speaker 3: And we're playing.

522
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Speaker 1: Right.

523
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Speaker 3: But it sounds like that we've never sang together at all.

524
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Speaker 2: It does. We were in bands, very successful, successful bands.

525
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Speaker 1: I did think about, you know, I'm going to do

526
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Speaker 1: some probably shadow boxes.

527
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Speaker 3: I thought about taking the record.

528
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Speaker 2: I want a band photo back here too. I want

529
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Speaker 2: like something.

530
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Speaker 1: Well, I thought that was, what you guys can't see

531
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Speaker 1: is I have a keyboard and two guitars in this

532
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Speaker 1: other wall.

533
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Speaker 3: And I thought about making that the band wall with

534
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Speaker 3: all kinds of photos and stuff.

535
00:21:04,782 --> 00:21:06,002
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could make it the band wall.

536
00:21:06,022 --> 00:21:07,042
Speaker 3: But I do want it in the shot.

537
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Speaker 2: Okay, sure. Maybe both. I will say this.

538
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Speaker 3: I have a lot of Johnny and John pictures.

539
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Speaker 2: I got a lot of guitars at the house I

540
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Speaker 2: could bring over here if you want to put some

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Speaker 2: guitars on this wall.

542
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Speaker 3: Can we just line the.

543
00:21:16,132 --> 00:21:16,772
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

544
00:21:16,811 --> 00:21:17,952
Speaker 3: Remember that church we went to play?

545
00:21:17,972 --> 00:21:18,492
Speaker 2: It was for our.

546
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Speaker 3: It was for our.

547
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Speaker 2: Our showcase.

548
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Speaker 3: Our showcase.

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

550
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Speaker 3: And they had... Dude, if they had one, they had

551
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Speaker 3: 250 guitars lining the wall.

552
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Speaker 2: And amps. It was amps. A big wall of amps. Yeah.

553
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Speaker 2: And guitars.

554
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Speaker 1: And it was like there used to be some guitar

555
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Speaker 1: factory or something and they kept it anyway.

556
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Speaker 2: Joining G.K.

557
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Speaker 3: Chesterton, which, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Man.

559
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Speaker 3: Everything he ever said, I think, was great.

560
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

561
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Speaker 2: Isn't he the one who won C.S. Lewis to Christ?

562
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Speaker 3: I think that he influenced him.

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Speaker 1: He says, the Bible tells us to love our neighbors

564
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Speaker 1: and also to love our enemies, probably because generally they

565
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Speaker 1: are the same people. Love our neighbors, love our enemies.

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Speaker 1: And I really think about that right now. There's a

567
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Speaker 1: lot of talk around the country about that. who should

568
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Speaker 1: be in, who should be out. And I'm not getting

569
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Speaker 1: into the political side of that or about, I'm not

570
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Speaker 1: talking about secure borders or all those kinds of things.

571
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Speaker 1: I am talking about though, the way we look at

572
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Speaker 1: people and how we filter scripture. There's certain things like

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Speaker 1: when I was writing Not So Black and White with Reggie,

574
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Speaker 1: there were, it's really not just about race. It's a

575
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Speaker 1: lot about being willing to change the way you think

576
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Speaker 1: and whether or not the Bible calls you to be

577
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Speaker 1: willing to change the way you think. And I begin

578
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Speaker 1: to really spend time in scriptures like, you know, don't

579
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Speaker 1: be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the

580
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Speaker 1: renewing of your mind, right? So like in the active

581
00:22:51,362 --> 00:22:54,142
Speaker 1: present tense, there's a transforming, a renewing of the mind

582
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Speaker 1: that's a part of what God does to form you

583
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Speaker 1: into who you're going to be.

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Speaker 3: So I like the present tense of that.

585
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Speaker 1: And there was another one that was, you know, let

586
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Speaker 1: your reasonableness be known gentleness, there's different translations, but if

587
00:23:07,512 --> 00:23:10,282
Speaker 1: you do the amplified, it's let your gentleness or your reasonableness, your,

588
00:23:10,402 --> 00:23:14,182
Speaker 1: your tolerance, your kindness, these things, let them be known

589
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Speaker 1: to all men. And I asked this question in the

590
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Speaker 1: book of myself and of the reader. And that is like,

591
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Speaker 1: this is a clear, I think imperative from Paul. I'm

592
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Speaker 1: not going to call it a command, but this is

593
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Speaker 1: a biblical imperative. And I have to ask myself, what

594
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Speaker 1: am I doing with this right now? Like, what do

595
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Speaker 1: I do with this scripture? If I'm going to invoke scripture,

596
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Speaker 1: what do I do with this one? That it says,

597
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Speaker 1: let my, my gentleness, reasonableness, tolerance, kindness, be known to

598
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Speaker 1: all people. Yeah. Because the Lord is at hand is

599
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Speaker 1: the end of that. If the Lord is near, like,

600
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Speaker 1: and I asked that, and I think that's where this goes.

601
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Speaker 1: Like there are people I treat like enemies. They don't

602
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Speaker 1: have to be enemies of my country or whatever. There

603
00:24:02,391 --> 00:24:05,672
Speaker 1: are those that I think I dismiss too easily and, Yeah. And,

604
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Speaker 1: and this goes down to the definition of neighbor, right?

605
00:24:08,632 --> 00:24:12,272
Speaker 1: When Jesus said, love your neighbor. And then he was

606
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Speaker 1: asked like, well, Lord, who is my neighbor? And then

607
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Speaker 1: he goes into the story of the good Samaritan.

608
00:24:18,172 --> 00:24:18,372
Speaker 2: Right.

609
00:24:19,012 --> 00:24:20,771
Speaker 3: And he's, those guys were not neighbors.

610
00:24:21,792 --> 00:24:21,972
Speaker 1: Right.

611
00:24:21,992 --> 00:24:23,202
Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't know each other at all.

612
00:24:23,621 --> 00:24:23,772
Speaker 1: Right.

613
00:24:24,032 --> 00:24:26,302
Speaker 3: And so he, he, he broadens the idea.

614
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Speaker 1: Cause I think we still think of neighbor as the

615
00:24:27,782 --> 00:24:29,942
Speaker 1: person living near you or in your life, but like,

616
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Speaker 1: Neighbors are the people you encounter, right?

617
00:24:32,242 --> 00:24:33,081
Speaker 3: Anyone you encounter.

618
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Speaker 1: And I love the Pilgrim's Credo that.

619
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Speaker 3: One of the lines in it was, we pray this

620
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Speaker 3: at church all the time, is I am not in control.

621
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Speaker 3: I am not in a hurry.

622
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Speaker 1: I greet everyone with peace. I bring back only what

623
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Speaker 1: God gives me. I think I left one out. I'm

624
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Speaker 1: not in control. I'm not in a hurry. I greet

625
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Speaker 1: everyone with peace. Oh, I walk in faith and hope.

626
00:24:59,411 --> 00:25:01,072
Speaker 1: I walk in faith and hope. I greet everyone with

627
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Speaker 1: peace and I bring back only what God gives me.

628
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Speaker 1: I just, that really cleanses my soul to say that

629
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Speaker 1: slowly breathe. As I say it, um, breathe deeply between

630
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Speaker 1: the words. I'm always breathing when I'm talking.

631
00:25:11,692 --> 00:25:13,251
Speaker 2: No, you want to keep breathing. It's important.

632
00:25:13,972 --> 00:25:18,312
Speaker 1: But I think like that idea of part of being

633
00:25:18,431 --> 00:25:21,402
Speaker 1: on pilgrimage as a disciple, as a follower of Jesus

634
00:25:21,621 --> 00:25:25,082
Speaker 1: is greeting everyone with peace. Everyone, I'm going to agree

635
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Speaker 1: with everyone with peace. And like, what am I doing

636
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Speaker 1: with that today? Um, because I generally, the people I

637
00:25:31,202 --> 00:25:35,142
Speaker 1: consider my enemies, the Bible considers my neighbors. Yeah.

638
00:25:35,382 --> 00:25:35,921
Speaker 2: That's tough.

639
00:25:36,042 --> 00:25:36,962
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

640
00:25:37,002 --> 00:25:38,951
Speaker 2: We got to get better at that. That idea of

641
00:25:39,911 --> 00:25:41,832
Speaker 2: if we could just get rid of the people that

642
00:25:41,851 --> 00:25:44,471
Speaker 2: are the problem, this would be a better place. And

643
00:25:44,492 --> 00:25:49,312
Speaker 2: you're like, you're, you're missing the point, you know, when

644
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Speaker 2: you feel like everybody that's not like you should be

645
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Speaker 2: removed from the equation. I think we're being kind of

646
00:25:55,101 --> 00:25:58,272
Speaker 2: played against each other. There's an old, like, uh, meme

647
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Speaker 2: that I read and it was basically about if there's

648
00:26:00,831 --> 00:26:02,891
Speaker 2: red ants and black ants in a jar and they

649
00:26:02,911 --> 00:26:06,091
Speaker 2: keep fighting at each other and we're trying to figure

650
00:26:06,112 --> 00:26:08,651
Speaker 2: out who's at fault it's the person shaking the jar

651
00:26:08,772 --> 00:26:10,672
Speaker 2: I feel like we gotta start getting mad at the

652
00:26:10,712 --> 00:26:13,752
Speaker 2: person who's shaking the jar yeah and it's media it's

653
00:26:13,811 --> 00:26:17,212
Speaker 2: culture it's it's the way the algorithm is kind of

654
00:26:17,311 --> 00:26:19,972
Speaker 2: geared to make us angry and then monetize that outrage

655
00:26:20,732 --> 00:26:23,292
Speaker 2: like that's what's shaking the jar but it's making us

656
00:26:23,331 --> 00:26:24,872
Speaker 2: think if we could just get rid of those red

657
00:26:25,032 --> 00:26:28,892
Speaker 2: ants yeah you know and it's like no Like, figure

658
00:26:29,032 --> 00:26:30,972
Speaker 2: out who's behind it, you know?

659
00:26:31,072 --> 00:26:31,372
Speaker 1: Yeah.

660
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Speaker 2: And we got to get better at that. And I

661
00:26:33,532 --> 00:26:35,272
Speaker 2: think I need to get better at it for sure.

662
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Speaker 1: That's a question I don't know if I ever made

663
00:26:37,391 --> 00:26:39,032
Speaker 1: it into the book, but a lot of things I

664
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Speaker 1: wrote after the book is ask yourself, who made me angry? Like, really,

665
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Speaker 1: to your point, trace back the breadcrumb trail. Where did

666
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Speaker 1: you start becoming angry? What was the source?

667
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What was the news source? What was the politician? What

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Speaker 3: was the ideology? What was the pastor? What was the

670
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Speaker 3: person you follow? Like, who made you angry?

671
00:27:02,132 --> 00:27:04,412
Speaker 2: But it's easy to dismiss that, too. You say like, well,

672
00:27:04,431 --> 00:27:06,772
Speaker 2: that wasn't that was an awakening in my life. I

673
00:27:06,811 --> 00:27:07,732
Speaker 2: needed to be.

674
00:27:07,851 --> 00:27:08,512
Speaker 3: And maybe you did.

675
00:27:08,532 --> 00:27:13,151
Speaker 2: Yeah. But it's that sustained rage, though, that we feel

676
00:27:13,371 --> 00:27:15,611
Speaker 2: in the country now that's like a boiling over like

677
00:27:15,772 --> 00:27:19,962
Speaker 2: we need retribution. Yeah. That's not godly to me. I

678
00:27:19,982 --> 00:27:22,642
Speaker 2: don't think you can make a case that that's some godly,

679
00:27:22,702 --> 00:27:25,862
Speaker 2: righteous indignation. I feel like we're just, this is unhealthy

680
00:27:26,641 --> 00:27:26,922
Speaker 2: to me.

681
00:27:27,061 --> 00:27:27,462
Speaker 3: Yeah.

682
00:27:27,902 --> 00:27:30,482
Speaker 1: I wanted to write a book called Angry Militant Christians.

683
00:27:31,621 --> 00:27:34,061
Speaker 1: I mean, because that's a striking title to me, to

684
00:27:34,081 --> 00:27:37,551
Speaker 1: your point. Those things, I'm not saying Christians don't need

685
00:27:37,572 --> 00:27:39,632
Speaker 1: to sometimes serve in the military or defend themselves.

686
00:27:39,672 --> 00:27:40,632
Speaker 3: I'm not really speaking to that.

687
00:27:40,672 --> 00:27:46,451
Speaker 1: But if my total disposition is angry and militant, When

688
00:27:46,472 --> 00:27:48,591
Speaker 1: I say militant, I mean like when you drive around

689
00:27:48,612 --> 00:27:55,311
Speaker 1: our town, there's lots of imagery on people's houses, in

690
00:27:55,331 --> 00:28:00,561
Speaker 1: their front yard, in their cars that are combining religious

691
00:28:00,902 --> 00:28:04,282
Speaker 1: symbolism directly with violence.

692
00:28:04,621 --> 00:28:07,062
Speaker 2: It's almost like a fantasy of violence too. It's like

693
00:28:07,081 --> 00:28:09,702
Speaker 2: I hope somebody makes a move so that I can

694
00:28:09,762 --> 00:28:12,632
Speaker 2: live out this thing I've been preparing for. You go...

695
00:28:13,422 --> 00:28:15,722
Speaker 2: It's okay to prepare. I'm okay with the Second Amendment.

696
00:28:16,061 --> 00:28:18,921
Speaker 2: I also think it shouldn't be your weird fever dream

697
00:28:19,742 --> 00:28:21,182
Speaker 2: to pull out a gun on somebody.

698
00:28:21,442 --> 00:28:21,742
Speaker 1: Right.

699
00:28:22,442 --> 00:28:23,942
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah, I know.

700
00:28:23,962 --> 00:28:25,851
Speaker 1: A local pastor, and I've said that before on the podcast,

701
00:28:26,652 --> 00:28:31,852
Speaker 1: he literally said one day, if you try to take

702
00:28:31,911 --> 00:28:34,172
Speaker 1: our First Amendment rights, if you try to take our

703
00:28:34,192 --> 00:28:36,331
Speaker 1: free speech, then we're going to come at you with

704
00:28:36,371 --> 00:28:37,312
Speaker 1: our Second Amendment rights.

705
00:28:37,752 --> 00:28:39,262
Speaker 3: And this is a pastor from a stage.

706
00:28:39,622 --> 00:28:40,722
Speaker 2: He said it to get cheers.

707
00:28:40,942 --> 00:28:41,802
Speaker 3: Yeah, and did.

708
00:28:41,962 --> 00:28:42,122
Speaker 2: Yeah.

709
00:28:42,572 --> 00:28:44,242
Speaker 1: And I think like to your point, I think I

710
00:28:44,252 --> 00:28:47,002
Speaker 1: said that the church of the day, like, look, I

711
00:28:47,042 --> 00:28:49,262
Speaker 1: do believe there's, and we had this talk with the staff.

712
00:28:50,032 --> 00:28:50,632
Speaker 3: Hey, we're a church.

713
00:28:52,282 --> 00:28:55,822
Speaker 2: It's a good start to a staff meeting, by the way. Hey, guys,

714
00:28:55,882 --> 00:28:58,282
Speaker 2: before we get going, we're a church.

715
00:28:59,782 --> 00:29:02,482
Speaker 1: Well, I think sometimes it gets lost. We're not a

716
00:29:02,522 --> 00:29:07,281
Speaker 1: community center. We're not a friendship station helping everybody find

717
00:29:07,302 --> 00:29:07,902
Speaker 1: their best friends.

718
00:29:07,922 --> 00:29:08,462
Speaker 2: Because people do.

719
00:29:08,482 --> 00:29:11,062
Speaker 3: They leave our church or any church. And it's sad.

720
00:29:11,222 --> 00:29:12,892
Speaker 2: And not a business. That's a big one now.

721
00:29:12,942 --> 00:29:13,592
Speaker 3: We're not a business.

722
00:29:13,612 --> 00:29:13,722
Speaker 2: Yeah.

723
00:29:14,292 --> 00:29:16,132
Speaker 1: We have a business side to what we have to do,

724
00:29:16,172 --> 00:29:18,411
Speaker 1: but we're not running church like a business is the

725
00:29:18,492 --> 00:29:21,492
Speaker 1: worst advice ever given. Um, and it's, but it's a

726
00:29:21,552 --> 00:29:25,832
Speaker 1: common phrase, especially in our upbringing. And I think that

727
00:29:26,172 --> 00:29:29,332
Speaker 1: what we are is we're a church, but really we

728
00:29:29,392 --> 00:29:32,332
Speaker 1: are the church, but we're a local parish, if you

729
00:29:32,352 --> 00:29:34,232
Speaker 1: want to call it that, right where the church comes.

730
00:29:35,082 --> 00:29:37,522
Speaker 1: And so something we're going to say or believe, if

731
00:29:37,562 --> 00:29:40,862
Speaker 1: we believe anything, it's offensive to somebody. We can't not

732
00:29:40,942 --> 00:29:43,262
Speaker 1: be offensive to somebody, right? The question is, are we

733
00:29:43,342 --> 00:29:45,911
Speaker 1: setting out to do that? Or are we trying to

734
00:29:45,952 --> 00:29:49,212
Speaker 1: do this in gentleness and hope that God transforms lives

735
00:29:49,272 --> 00:29:51,731
Speaker 1: as he is ours, that it's happening with us first,

736
00:29:52,332 --> 00:29:54,822
Speaker 1: as the Bible says, that we're the hardworking farmer should

737
00:29:54,842 --> 00:29:58,242
Speaker 1: be the first to partake of the crop, right? But

738
00:29:58,262 --> 00:30:00,721
Speaker 1: I also told the church, like, I'm not going to

739
00:30:00,742 --> 00:30:03,022
Speaker 1: be the judge of people, but I think what I

740
00:30:03,062 --> 00:30:05,352
Speaker 1: should want to think is that God finds a way

741
00:30:05,392 --> 00:30:08,652
Speaker 1: to show more grace and help to other people. I'm

742
00:30:08,692 --> 00:30:10,952
Speaker 1: not hoping like, yeah, I hope they get there someday

743
00:30:11,012 --> 00:30:14,312
Speaker 1: on judgment day. Like there is a there is a,

744
00:30:14,382 --> 00:30:17,382
Speaker 1: why does the wicked prosper part of the scriptures?

745
00:30:17,522 --> 00:30:18,102
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.

746
00:30:18,322 --> 00:30:20,922
Speaker 1: But David always in those scriptures generally returned to his

747
00:30:20,962 --> 00:30:22,222
Speaker 1: own wickedness by the end.

748
00:30:22,282 --> 00:30:23,902
Speaker 3: Like, God, it's my heart. I need you to take

749
00:30:23,942 --> 00:30:24,221
Speaker 3: care of.

750
00:30:24,242 --> 00:30:27,241
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so I can want God to exact the

751
00:30:27,342 --> 00:30:28,982
Speaker 1: right kind of judgment. And I think we need that

752
00:30:29,022 --> 00:30:30,701
Speaker 1: by the way. And if this is really important, theologically,

753
00:30:31,672 --> 00:30:33,892
Speaker 1: if you, if the only way you can not walk

754
00:30:33,911 --> 00:30:36,762
Speaker 1: around angry as you believe is That ultimate judgment and

755
00:30:36,802 --> 00:30:37,742
Speaker 1: vengeance is God's. Right.

756
00:30:37,942 --> 00:30:39,002
Speaker 2: There's somebody at the wheel.

757
00:30:39,262 --> 00:30:41,272
Speaker 1: Who's going to take care of this in due time.

758
00:30:41,312 --> 00:30:43,432
Speaker 1: And you may not see it in your lifetime because

759
00:30:43,452 --> 00:30:45,971
Speaker 1: this is an eternal matter. But you trust he's going

760
00:30:45,992 --> 00:30:47,892
Speaker 1: to take care of this. He's going to be the

761
00:30:47,952 --> 00:30:50,112
Speaker 1: one who makes the final decisions. I don't have to enforce.

762
00:30:50,782 --> 00:30:53,402
Speaker 1: all the judgment that I feel, right? Because there is

763
00:30:53,422 --> 00:30:55,502
Speaker 1: a judge. So I think it's important because there will

764
00:30:55,522 --> 00:30:57,161
Speaker 1: be punishment and all those things. But I think it's

765
00:30:57,181 --> 00:30:59,642
Speaker 1: also important to know if he enforces it against me,

766
00:31:00,242 --> 00:31:02,562
Speaker 1: who can stand, right? So that's why I need the

767
00:31:02,602 --> 00:31:04,622
Speaker 1: grace of Christ. And I hope that there are others.

768
00:31:04,462 --> 00:31:06,062
Speaker 3: Who have it too. Would it be nice if the

769
00:31:06,122 --> 00:31:08,182
Speaker 3: people who are my enemies, who are my.

770
00:31:08,142 --> 00:31:12,142
Speaker 1: Neighbors or whatever, that they also trusted in Christ's judgment,

771
00:31:12,681 --> 00:31:15,182
Speaker 1: the judgment that came upon him, so that they received

772
00:31:15,262 --> 00:31:16,882
Speaker 1: the same grace too and not wrath.

773
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Speaker 3: I think that that's a good thing.

774
00:31:17,661 --> 00:31:19,302
Speaker 2: Yeah, there used to be a pastor that we sat

775
00:31:19,342 --> 00:31:20,802
Speaker 2: under for a while, and he would tell this story.

776
00:31:20,822 --> 00:31:22,582
Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty powerful. He would talk about

777
00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:26,782
Speaker 2: how the married couples who one was in the faith

778
00:31:26,862 --> 00:31:30,982
Speaker 2: and one was out, let's say it's the wife, she

779
00:31:31,042 --> 00:31:33,842
Speaker 2: would come to him and say, please, my husband, he's

780
00:31:34,302 --> 00:31:37,162
Speaker 2: not living right. Just pray for him every week, every

781
00:31:37,202 --> 00:31:40,421
Speaker 2: week for years. And then finally, one Sunday, he shows

782
00:31:40,602 --> 00:31:44,092
Speaker 2: up with her, He goes, nine times out of 10,

783
00:31:44,082 --> 00:31:46,102
Speaker 2: she's not there the next week. And he goes, because

784
00:31:46,161 --> 00:31:47,542
Speaker 2: what I found is a lot of times they don't

785
00:31:47,582 --> 00:31:49,982
Speaker 2: want redemption. They want revenge. It's almost like it's a

786
00:31:50,022 --> 00:31:54,022
Speaker 2: talking point of this person is other. Yeah. And just

787
00:31:54,082 --> 00:31:56,761
Speaker 2: pray for my husband. He treats me bad. But the

788
00:31:56,802 --> 00:31:58,822
Speaker 2: minute he makes a turn, it's like, did you really

789
00:31:58,862 --> 00:32:01,022
Speaker 2: want him to turn? Yeah. Or do you want to

790
00:32:01,062 --> 00:32:04,632
Speaker 2: have a grievance? And you've got to own that part

791
00:32:04,652 --> 00:32:06,302
Speaker 2: of yourself that wants to have grievance.

792
00:32:06,952 --> 00:32:09,082
Speaker 1: Well, you have a right to have grievance. And I

793
00:32:09,102 --> 00:32:12,182
Speaker 1: think you have to realize the grievance sits in a seat, right,

794
00:32:12,362 --> 00:32:15,592
Speaker 1: in your mind. And that seat's still going to be

795
00:32:15,632 --> 00:32:18,772
Speaker 1: there even if it's vacated by the grievance. And it's

796
00:32:18,832 --> 00:32:20,852
Speaker 1: hard not to put something else there, like you said,

797
00:32:20,911 --> 00:32:24,072
Speaker 1: vengeance or something else. You have to choose something different

798
00:32:24,112 --> 00:32:25,912
Speaker 1: because that space is taken up in your mind.

799
00:32:25,931 --> 00:32:28,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that today at lunch about how athletes,

800
00:32:28,972 --> 00:32:31,642
Speaker 2: when they retire, like when Jordan retired, he didn't know

801
00:32:31,661 --> 00:32:33,622
Speaker 2: what to do with himself. He comes back with the Wizards.

802
00:32:33,702 --> 00:32:37,912
Speaker 2: It's like you can't get that same juice back. So

803
00:32:37,952 --> 00:32:40,472
Speaker 2: half of them become like gambling. They get into businesses.

804
00:32:40,512 --> 00:32:42,752
Speaker 2: They throw their money into some restaurant that fails, whatever

805
00:32:42,792 --> 00:32:46,712
Speaker 2: it is, because they were on national television playing this

806
00:32:46,972 --> 00:32:48,772
Speaker 2: kids game that they loved and they were the best

807
00:32:48,792 --> 00:32:50,411
Speaker 2: in the world at it. They don't know how to

808
00:32:50,431 --> 00:32:52,292
Speaker 2: get that. So, yeah, there's that thing, like you said,

809
00:32:52,792 --> 00:32:54,902
Speaker 2: that thing that you get a little juice from, it's

810
00:32:54,942 --> 00:32:57,122
Speaker 2: taken away. And now it's like, well, now what do

811
00:32:57,161 --> 00:32:59,941
Speaker 2: I do? I'm not I don't get to be mad anymore. Yeah.

812
00:33:00,342 --> 00:33:03,102
Speaker 2: Like we got to admit that we have not just

813
00:33:03,142 --> 00:33:05,322
Speaker 2: an anger problem. We have an anger addiction problem.

814
00:33:06,242 --> 00:33:11,222
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, my therapist says anger reveals something you

815
00:33:11,262 --> 00:33:11,802
Speaker 1: care about.

816
00:33:12,502 --> 00:33:12,702
Speaker 2: Yeah.

817
00:33:13,082 --> 00:33:13,282
Speaker 1: Right.

818
00:33:13,382 --> 00:33:14,062
Speaker 3: Something you defend.

819
00:33:14,112 --> 00:33:16,592
Speaker 1: If you're angry just because you care about something generally

820
00:33:16,612 --> 00:33:20,892
Speaker 1: that's been hurt or whatever, you're protecting something. It's an

821
00:33:20,931 --> 00:33:25,612
Speaker 1: emotion that reveals other emotions or reveals values. And so

822
00:33:25,672 --> 00:33:27,392
Speaker 1: that's why it's so hard to get people to stop

823
00:33:27,411 --> 00:33:31,782
Speaker 1: being angry is because I think they really have a

824
00:33:31,922 --> 00:33:35,241
Speaker 1: legitimate something they care about. And if you're saying what

825
00:33:35,262 --> 00:33:37,522
Speaker 1: you care about doesn't matter, stop being angry, then we

826
00:33:37,562 --> 00:33:40,942
Speaker 1: never get anywhere. That's why the addiction is so easy

827
00:33:40,982 --> 00:33:41,441
Speaker 1: to happen.

828
00:33:41,562 --> 00:33:43,542
Speaker 2: Well, there's a time to be passionate and an activist

829
00:33:43,642 --> 00:33:46,022
Speaker 2: about things. And I think there's also a time to

830
00:33:46,242 --> 00:33:50,982
Speaker 2: look toward reconciliation and look towards redemption. And I mean,

831
00:33:51,322 --> 00:33:53,932
Speaker 2: we're in a strange cycle right now in this country. So, yeah,

832
00:33:54,282 --> 00:33:56,001
Speaker 2: we'll see how it plays out. And it's hard for

833
00:33:56,022 --> 00:33:59,352
Speaker 2: me to relinquish that control because I want to worry

834
00:33:59,392 --> 00:34:02,252
Speaker 2: about it. I know that it doesn't help. And I

835
00:34:02,292 --> 00:34:05,132
Speaker 2: also don't know what to do with the worry. But

836
00:34:05,192 --> 00:34:08,712
Speaker 2: it's just a strange time. So, yeah, I need the same.

837
00:34:08,732 --> 00:34:11,272
Speaker 2: I need that advice, too. You might say there's a

838
00:34:11,792 --> 00:34:15,931
Speaker 2: dearth of options, John, which means not many. There's a scarcity.

839
00:34:15,952 --> 00:34:17,752
Speaker 3: Oh, boy.

840
00:34:17,792 --> 00:34:20,172
Speaker 2: Here we go. John, let's move to my segments. The

841
00:34:20,212 --> 00:34:22,632
Speaker 2: first one is Johnny's old jokes. We call it Joke

842
00:34:22,652 --> 00:34:30,122
Speaker 2: About That. Joke About That. John, I asked an old man,

843
00:34:30,282 --> 00:34:32,701
Speaker 2: even after 60 years of being married, how can you

844
00:34:32,722 --> 00:34:35,661
Speaker 2: still call your wife honey, darling, and sweetheart? He replied, well,

845
00:34:35,681 --> 00:34:37,322
Speaker 2: I forgot her name 10 years ago, and I'm scared

846
00:34:37,342 --> 00:34:41,142
Speaker 2: to ask her. It's an old man joke. I like it. John,

847
00:34:41,161 --> 00:34:43,442
Speaker 2: two cows are talking in a field. The first cow says, hey, man,

848
00:34:43,622 --> 00:34:45,522
Speaker 2: you worried about this mad cow disease that's going around?

849
00:34:45,562 --> 00:34:47,462
Speaker 2: The second cow says, I'm sure glad it doesn't affect

850
00:34:47,542 --> 00:34:52,951
Speaker 2: us helicopters. And finally, John, archaeologists digging in a pyramid.

851
00:34:55,552 --> 00:34:58,232
Speaker 2: in Egypt have found a mummy covered in chocolate and

852
00:34:58,272 --> 00:35:02,072
Speaker 2: hazelnuts and believe it to be Pharaoh Roche.

853
00:35:06,602 --> 00:35:07,122
Speaker 3: True story, guys.

854
00:35:07,162 --> 00:35:09,382
Speaker 2: That one, I like that one the best. That's my favorite.

855
00:35:09,422 --> 00:35:10,202
Speaker 2: Pharaoh Roche.

856
00:35:10,362 --> 00:35:11,382
Speaker 3: That's a nice play on words.

857
00:35:11,402 --> 00:35:12,182
Speaker 2: It's a nice little.

858
00:35:12,462 --> 00:35:14,262
Speaker 1: It's not quite as good as Hatchback.

859
00:35:13,902 --> 00:35:14,882
Speaker 3: Of Notre Dame, but it's fine.

860
00:35:15,302 --> 00:35:17,802
Speaker 2: John, your joke will not make it in the show,

861
00:35:17,862 --> 00:35:20,411
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry for you. John, let's move on. Let's

862
00:35:20,432 --> 00:35:27,612
Speaker 2: do This Week in History. We call it Talk About Then. John,

863
00:35:27,692 --> 00:35:32,912
Speaker 2: this week, 1981, this story became a movie, which I

864
00:35:32,932 --> 00:35:34,701
Speaker 2: didn't know. I don't think I've seen this movie. John Cusack.

865
00:35:34,772 --> 00:35:37,042
Speaker 2: It's called Money for Nothing in 1993. But the story

866
00:35:37,062 --> 00:35:42,702
Speaker 2: happened in 1981. February of 1981, Joey Coyle picked up

867
00:35:42,702 --> 00:35:46,802
Speaker 2: $ 1. 2 million that fell out of an armored car and

868
00:35:46,842 --> 00:35:48,642
Speaker 2: went on a wild spending spree.

869
00:35:48,822 --> 00:35:49,022
Speaker 1: Wow.

870
00:35:49,782 --> 00:35:51,962
Speaker 2: He was arrested six days later, but acquitted by reason

871
00:35:52,002 --> 00:35:55,272
Speaker 2: of temporary insanity. I don't know. That's a wild defense

872
00:35:55,292 --> 00:35:58,312
Speaker 2: that it worked. They're like, well, yeah, 1.2 million. He

873
00:35:58,352 --> 00:36:02,872
Speaker 2: was temporarily insane. And they acquitted him. But he committed

874
00:36:02,892 --> 00:36:05,172
Speaker 2: suicide less than one month before the film was released.

875
00:36:05,212 --> 00:36:08,612
Speaker 2: So I guess he lived another 10 years. But that's

876
00:36:08,632 --> 00:36:11,411
Speaker 2: pretty crazy. And you hear that about lottery winners and stuff, too.

877
00:36:11,772 --> 00:36:13,692
Speaker 2: This is a really weird, impactful thing in his life.

878
00:36:13,732 --> 00:36:15,852
Speaker 2: And who knows if he even had anything of substance

879
00:36:15,872 --> 00:36:18,392
Speaker 2: that he kept from the spending spree. Maybe he had

880
00:36:18,412 --> 00:36:20,922
Speaker 2: to return it all. And that's part of the acquittal process.

881
00:36:20,962 --> 00:36:23,482
Speaker 2: But what a strange thing. But it made me think, like,

882
00:36:23,922 --> 00:36:25,442
Speaker 2: Have you ever found a wallet? Have you ever lost

883
00:36:25,502 --> 00:36:27,142
Speaker 2: a wallet and somebody returns it and everything was still

884
00:36:27,182 --> 00:36:29,582
Speaker 2: in it? Like you had those moments? You would return

885
00:36:29,622 --> 00:36:32,302
Speaker 2: the wallet. You're a pastor. You're not going to. What

886
00:36:32,322 --> 00:36:33,842
Speaker 2: does that mean? Do you go through the wallet?

887
00:36:34,322 --> 00:36:35,522
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you got to find out who to take

888
00:36:35,562 --> 00:36:35,802
Speaker 3: it to.

889
00:36:36,062 --> 00:36:36,362
Speaker 1: Right.

890
00:36:36,702 --> 00:36:37,582
Speaker 3: And since you're already there.

891
00:36:37,882 --> 00:36:41,782
Speaker 2: Oh, look, Amex Black Card. What do you know? Man,

892
00:36:41,802 --> 00:36:44,622
Speaker 2: I've bought a flight to bring this back to you.

893
00:36:44,642 --> 00:36:47,002
Speaker 2: You're like, I don't think you understand how any of

894
00:36:47,022 --> 00:36:51,182
Speaker 2: this works. Yeah, that's the thing, too. We're depending on,

895
00:36:51,212 --> 00:36:54,052
Speaker 2: you talk about the neighbor thing. We are going to

896
00:36:54,092 --> 00:36:57,152
Speaker 2: be depending on each other's kindness more and more because

897
00:36:57,512 --> 00:37:00,732
Speaker 2: the robots are all out to get us. There's AI scams.

898
00:37:00,752 --> 00:37:03,592
Speaker 2: There's all this stuff. We need real people to actually

899
00:37:03,732 --> 00:37:06,952
Speaker 2: take care of each other because we're getting rid of

900
00:37:06,972 --> 00:37:08,712
Speaker 2: this because we're going to have to fight these robots.

901
00:37:09,232 --> 00:37:10,092
Speaker 3: I mean, today I got.

902
00:37:10,032 --> 00:37:11,652
Speaker 1: A text from someone trying to get me to pay

903
00:37:11,912 --> 00:37:14,732
Speaker 1: a parking violation that I did not.

904
00:37:16,242 --> 00:37:19,482
Speaker 2: I meant to tell you, I borrowed your car and

905
00:37:19,502 --> 00:37:25,252
Speaker 2: your wallet. John, this week, 1935. Radar was first demonstrated

906
00:37:25,312 --> 00:37:29,592
Speaker 2: by British physicist Robert Watson Watt. Radar is an acronym

907
00:37:29,632 --> 00:37:32,712
Speaker 2: for radio detection and ranging. Did you know that? Radar

908
00:37:32,752 --> 00:37:34,832
Speaker 2: was one of those words. It's kind of like scuba

909
00:37:34,892 --> 00:37:38,392
Speaker 2: is self-contained underwater breathing apparatus. And then we already determined

910
00:37:38,432 --> 00:37:43,872
Speaker 2: that tuba was also an acronym for terrible underwater breathing apparatus. Okay.

911
00:37:43,912 --> 00:37:45,582
Speaker 2: But radar is one of those words. First demonstrate. I

912
00:37:45,602 --> 00:37:47,342
Speaker 2: don't even know if I could tell you how radar,

913
00:37:47,482 --> 00:37:49,142
Speaker 2: what it does. What is radar doing?

914
00:37:49,852 --> 00:37:51,782
Speaker 3: I think it sends out a signal.

915
00:37:51,802 --> 00:37:53,161
Speaker 2: It's like sonar in the air, right?

916
00:37:53,182 --> 00:37:55,462
Speaker 1: Yeah, it bounces off of something and then creates then

917
00:37:55,522 --> 00:37:55,982
Speaker 1: a grid.

918
00:37:56,042 --> 00:37:57,942
Speaker 2: You always see it represented in like a cartoon, like

919
00:37:57,962 --> 00:38:05,442
Speaker 2: those eccentric circles going up. That's what I'm sensing. Don't

920
00:38:05,522 --> 00:38:06,462
Speaker 2: bats use radar?

921
00:38:07,332 --> 00:38:07,542
Speaker 1: Yeah.

922
00:38:08,112 --> 00:38:11,672
Speaker 2: They're not fully blind, but they do use radar echolocation.

923
00:38:12,092 --> 00:38:13,112
Speaker 3: They're just legally blind?

924
00:38:15,152 --> 00:38:17,532
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not good with the law. John,

925
00:38:17,592 --> 00:38:22,392
Speaker 2: this week, 1788... the state of Franklin ceased to exist.

926
00:38:22,532 --> 00:38:23,872
Speaker 2: We've talked a little bit about the state of Franklin.

927
00:38:23,892 --> 00:38:26,272
Speaker 2: I didn't know a lot about it, but I was

928
00:38:26,332 --> 00:38:30,272
Speaker 2: raised in East Tennessee. And it was created in 1784

929
00:38:30,272 --> 00:38:34,722
Speaker 2: when East Tennessee declared itself an independent state. However, Congress

930
00:38:34,762 --> 00:38:35,842
Speaker 2: denied its legitimacy.

931
00:38:36,602 --> 00:38:40,741
Speaker 1: It was right there in, what's the town where the, right,

932
00:38:40,782 --> 00:38:43,782
Speaker 1: it's not, you can see the smokestacks, but you're not

933
00:38:43,822 --> 00:38:44,161
Speaker 1: there yet.

934
00:38:44,182 --> 00:38:46,082
Speaker 3: When you come down 40, you can see the Oak

935
00:38:46,102 --> 00:38:47,302
Speaker 3: Ridge smokestacks. Oh, Claxton.

936
00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:50,292
Speaker 2: Is it claxton's right there bull run steam plant the

937
00:38:50,312 --> 00:38:53,272
Speaker 2: big steam plant there yeah but that's claxton area.

938
00:38:53,072 --> 00:38:56,181
Speaker 1: Okay clinton it's the no it's the no no no

939
00:38:56,232 --> 00:38:58,402
Speaker 1: it's the it's the exit my in-laws used to live

940
00:38:58,462 --> 00:39:01,982
Speaker 1: off of right there and no no no no you're

941
00:39:02,002 --> 00:39:03,782
Speaker 1: thinking of the other was when they moved to 10

942
00:39:03,782 --> 00:39:06,502
Speaker 1: mile oh but that was like a good again.

943
00:39:06,382 --> 00:39:08,261
Speaker 2: But anyway it was right there we i know that

944
00:39:08,322 --> 00:39:09,782
Speaker 2: yeah i know that area i had no idea it

945
00:39:09,802 --> 00:39:12,702
Speaker 2: was its own little they what i don't know what

946
00:39:13,222 --> 00:39:15,182
Speaker 2: They made themselves their own state? How do you do...

947
00:39:15,282 --> 00:39:17,862
Speaker 2: Was Benjamin Franklin behind this? Is that why it was

948
00:39:17,902 --> 00:39:18,462
Speaker 2: called the State of Franklin?

949
00:39:18,482 --> 00:39:19,042
Speaker 3: I don't think they named it.

950
00:39:19,042 --> 00:39:20,062
Speaker 2: They named it after him, but it was just a

951
00:39:20,082 --> 00:39:20,362
Speaker 2: bunch of.

952
00:39:20,402 --> 00:39:22,842
Speaker 3: He's still alive except in 88.

953
00:39:22,842 --> 00:39:25,102
Speaker 2: What did he think about this? Let's get him on

954
00:39:25,132 --> 00:39:27,012
Speaker 2: the phone. Kingston.

955
00:39:27,132 --> 00:39:27,892
Speaker 3: Sorry, Kingston.

956
00:39:27,912 --> 00:39:28,312
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sure.

957
00:39:28,332 --> 00:39:29,411
Speaker 3: I just couldn't get there.

958
00:39:29,432 --> 00:39:40,002
Speaker 2: John, this week, French psychologist and pharmacist Emile Kuh... Kuh, cowl. Emile... C-O-U-E.

959
00:39:40,212 --> 00:39:42,492
Speaker 3: There's a French name every week right now. I love it.

960
00:39:42,612 --> 00:39:48,752
Speaker 2: Emile Howell was born. He created the psychotherapeutic technique. This

961
00:39:48,772 --> 00:39:50,932
Speaker 2: is interesting because you were talking about saying a credo.

962
00:39:51,372 --> 00:39:51,552
Speaker 1: Yeah.

963
00:39:51,732 --> 00:39:54,411
Speaker 2: And repeating it and how it has an effect. Like,

964
00:39:54,932 --> 00:39:58,072
Speaker 2: creeds do have an effect. But his technique was called,

965
00:39:58,532 --> 00:40:01,992
Speaker 2: named after him, cowism, cuckooism? I don't know. Which was

966
00:40:02,052 --> 00:40:06,392
Speaker 2: based on repeating the saying, day by day, in every way,

967
00:40:06,792 --> 00:40:09,971
Speaker 2: I'm getting better and better. day by day in every

968
00:40:10,032 --> 00:40:12,412
Speaker 2: way i'm getting better and better this was to be

969
00:40:12,452 --> 00:40:14,652
Speaker 2: repeated up to 20 times a day preferably in the

970
00:40:14,692 --> 00:40:17,842
Speaker 2: morning and before going to bed wow So it reminds

971
00:40:17,862 --> 00:40:19,582
Speaker 2: me so much of what about Bob when he's like

972
00:40:19,642 --> 00:40:21,862
Speaker 2: walking through traffic and he's doing his affirmations like, I

973
00:40:21,882 --> 00:40:23,842
Speaker 2: feel good. I feel great. I feel wonderful. I feel good.

974
00:40:24,042 --> 00:40:25,681
Speaker 2: And then somebody walks by him. They're cursing him under

975
00:40:25,702 --> 00:40:27,562
Speaker 2: their breath, a bum or whatever. He's like, I feel good.

976
00:40:27,622 --> 00:40:29,972
Speaker 2: I feel great. He's like panicking as he says it,

977
00:40:29,992 --> 00:40:33,332
Speaker 2: but he's still saying it. I love it. Well, that

978
00:40:33,352 --> 00:40:33,812
Speaker 2: was Emil.

979
00:40:34,212 --> 00:40:40,072
Speaker 1: Well, it's actually interesting because I study a lot about.

980
00:40:41,292 --> 00:40:42,102
Speaker 3: Neural pathways.

981
00:40:42,462 --> 00:40:44,682
Speaker 1: OK. And I think that's really what that's about.

982
00:40:45,692 --> 00:40:48,172
Speaker 3: Whether he did that or not, but you can.

983
00:40:48,192 --> 00:40:50,592
Speaker 2: I need to find out if it actually was legitimate.

984
00:40:50,772 --> 00:40:55,592
Speaker 1: There are neurofeedback things that they can now trace your brainwaves,

985
00:40:55,612 --> 00:40:57,652
Speaker 1: but they can make you try to slow or speed

986
00:40:57,732 --> 00:40:59,392
Speaker 1: up a video with your mind.

987
00:40:59,412 --> 00:40:59,872
Speaker 2: Okay.

988
00:40:59,972 --> 00:41:01,852
Speaker 1: And what you're doing is you're forging a neuropathway. I

989
00:41:01,852 --> 00:41:03,592
Speaker 1: think words are one of the ways. And I think

990
00:41:03,612 --> 00:41:05,512
Speaker 1: we did a quote about that. If we didn't, I

991
00:41:05,512 --> 00:41:11,962
Speaker 1: need to. Tim Keller talked about how words, they reinforce

992
00:41:12,002 --> 00:41:15,392
Speaker 1: and give life to ideas. And I think he said, like,

993
00:41:15,832 --> 00:41:18,152
Speaker 1: if you're mad at someone, but then you go, you know,

994
00:41:18,212 --> 00:41:18,632
Speaker 1: I hate them.

995
00:41:18,652 --> 00:41:19,452
Speaker 3: I wish I could punch them.

996
00:41:19,512 --> 00:41:21,692
Speaker 1: He's like, now you want to do that more because.

997
00:41:21,532 --> 00:41:24,562
Speaker 3: You said that. And so it reinforces it. So it's

998
00:41:24,962 --> 00:41:25,642
Speaker 3: not a positive.

999
00:41:25,662 --> 00:41:27,292
Speaker 1: I think maybe some of the positive confession stuff we

1000
00:41:27,312 --> 00:41:30,201
Speaker 1: were raised with had some legitimacy to it in terms

1001
00:41:30,302 --> 00:41:31,002
Speaker 1: of it does.

1002
00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:33,962
Speaker 2: No, I do think there's something to like, like you said,

1003
00:41:34,642 --> 00:41:39,902
Speaker 2: giving room for your positive or negative thoughts to grow

1004
00:41:40,082 --> 00:41:43,692
Speaker 2: or fester if it's a negative thought is important. can

1005
00:41:43,732 --> 00:41:47,562
Speaker 2: be damaging or helpful. I just, the whole idea of

1006
00:41:47,602 --> 00:41:50,701
Speaker 2: like manifest destiny and like we can just, every word

1007
00:41:50,762 --> 00:41:51,342
Speaker 2: is magic.

1008
00:41:51,872 --> 00:41:54,092
Speaker 3: Right, don't ever speak death over anything in your life.

1009
00:41:54,132 --> 00:41:55,972
Speaker 2: Right, don't even ever admit you're in a problem. Your

1010
00:41:56,012 --> 00:41:58,431
Speaker 2: car's on fire. You can't say my car's on fire. Right.

1011
00:41:58,592 --> 00:41:59,252
Speaker 2: Because you're giving.

1012
00:41:59,272 --> 00:42:00,612
Speaker 3: My car's not on fire in Jesus' name.

1013
00:42:00,672 --> 00:42:00,872
Speaker 1: Right.

1014
00:42:00,892 --> 00:42:01,612
Speaker 3: That's what we hear.

1015
00:42:01,672 --> 00:42:04,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a limit, but also there

1016
00:42:04,752 --> 00:42:07,532
Speaker 2: is something to it. If you're around positive people, they

1017
00:42:07,572 --> 00:42:11,411
Speaker 2: generally have a better outlook, and they're way more fun

1018
00:42:11,432 --> 00:42:12,552
Speaker 2: to be around. I will say that.

1019
00:42:12,612 --> 00:42:12,792
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1020
00:42:12,912 --> 00:42:13,411
Speaker 2: People that go.

1021
00:42:13,432 --> 00:42:14,712
Speaker 3: I've been trying to find someone.

1022
00:42:15,252 --> 00:42:18,632
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. Okay. We'll keep working. Yeah. John, finally,

1023
00:42:20,482 --> 00:42:23,892
Speaker 2: this week is Leap Day. also known as Bachelor's Day,

1024
00:42:24,512 --> 00:42:30,772
Speaker 2: in 1288, Scotland enacted a law. This is wild. Scotland

1025
00:42:30,792 --> 00:42:34,342
Speaker 2: enacted a law in 1288 allowing women to propose marriage

1026
00:42:34,402 --> 00:42:39,372
Speaker 2: on leap day. The man was fined if he refused.

1027
00:42:39,962 --> 00:42:40,161
Speaker 3: What?

1028
00:42:40,482 --> 00:42:43,842
Speaker 2: The woman was required to wear a red petticoat while proposing.

1029
00:42:43,862 --> 00:42:47,122
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of stipulations. There's a lot of rules.

1030
00:42:47,122 --> 00:42:48,822
Speaker 2: 1288 was wild in Scotland. Let me just say that.

1031
00:42:48,842 --> 00:42:49,322
Speaker 3: Let me tell you.

1032
00:42:49,412 --> 00:42:52,512
Speaker 2: If a woman walks up in a red petticoat, run! Yeah,

1033
00:42:52,632 --> 00:42:54,612
Speaker 2: because you have to. Unless you just, like, can't wait.

1034
00:42:55,032 --> 00:42:57,132
Speaker 2: She can propose to you, and you can be fined

1035
00:42:57,592 --> 00:43:01,431
Speaker 2: for refusing? Wow. We're not talking about proposing, hey, let's

1036
00:43:01,452 --> 00:43:04,812
Speaker 2: go get a cup of coffee. We're saying marriage. Yeah.

1037
00:43:05,002 --> 00:43:06,242
Speaker 2: Did she have to get on one knee? What was

1038
00:43:06,282 --> 00:43:09,002
Speaker 2: going on? I don't know. It's like a Sadie Hawkins,

1039
00:43:09,042 --> 00:43:13,462
Speaker 2: but for real. It's like, you're in trouble, dude. Yeah.

1040
00:43:13,812 --> 00:43:16,732
Speaker 3: That's right around 1266, I think, was the Norman Conquest.

1041
00:43:21,402 --> 00:43:22,942
Speaker 3: The UK. There's a lot happening there.

1042
00:43:23,162 --> 00:43:24,562
Speaker 2: I think you're just trying to show that you know

1043
00:43:24,622 --> 00:43:26,352
Speaker 2: a lot and neither of these two events are linked. No,

1044
00:43:26,372 --> 00:43:29,052
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say like... I think 1277 was the

1045
00:43:29,392 --> 00:43:32,572
Speaker 2: first solar eclipse that was... That doesn't have anything to

1046
00:43:32,592 --> 00:43:34,072
Speaker 2: do with red petticoats, John.

1047
00:43:34,432 --> 00:43:36,132
Speaker 3: I think I had a book about that over here.

1048
00:43:36,172 --> 00:43:38,612
Speaker 2: There's a great new book about that called John and

1049
00:43:38,652 --> 00:43:43,262
Speaker 2: the Red Petticoat. My John Driver with John Driver. Is

1050
00:43:43,282 --> 00:43:45,472
Speaker 2: that how you ended up with Laura? She had a

1051
00:43:45,502 --> 00:43:47,512
Speaker 2: wild hair and got her head petticoat on?

1052
00:43:47,532 --> 00:43:48,592
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1053
00:43:48,692 --> 00:43:50,672
Speaker 1: I told her the day, especially after listening to my

1054
00:43:50,692 --> 00:43:51,472
Speaker 1: 18-year-old self, I.

1055
00:43:51,432 --> 00:43:53,072
Speaker 3: Was like, what were you thinking?

1056
00:43:53,112 --> 00:43:53,652
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1057
00:43:53,672 --> 00:43:54,912
Speaker 3: No, she blew it.

1058
00:43:55,292 --> 00:43:57,752
Speaker 2: She should have shopped, and she didn't.

1059
00:43:59,162 --> 00:44:00,282
Speaker 3: I mean, she could have done so much better.

1060
00:44:00,302 --> 00:44:00,442
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1061
00:44:00,462 --> 00:44:00,622
Speaker 1: Sorry.

1062
00:44:01,182 --> 00:44:01,942
Speaker 2: Well, it's too late now.

1063
00:44:02,782 --> 00:44:03,982
Speaker 3: It's 25 years this year.

1064
00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:06,442
Speaker 2: But it's not too late for you, dear listener. John,

1065
00:44:06,522 --> 00:44:09,322
Speaker 2: how can people find more about the show and listen

1066
00:44:09,362 --> 00:44:10,282
Speaker 2: to earlier episodes?

1067
00:44:10,302 --> 00:44:14,382
Speaker 1: You put on a red pad. You go to talkaboutthatpodcast.com.

1068
00:44:14,922 --> 00:44:15,161
Speaker 2: Yes.

1069
00:44:15,822 --> 00:44:19,801
Speaker 3: And if you refuse, you are fined. It's right there

1070
00:44:19,882 --> 00:44:20,502
Speaker 3: in the rules.

1071
00:44:20,582 --> 00:44:23,522
Speaker 2: You are now married to us. No, we're not a cult. Listen,

1072
00:44:24,142 --> 00:44:27,102
Speaker 2: we don't do that stuff here. We'll just be friends.

1073
00:44:27,142 --> 00:44:29,212
Speaker 2: How about that? John, if you click on the upper

1074
00:44:29,232 --> 00:44:32,511
Speaker 2: right-hand link, you can get ad-free content. Support the show.

1075
00:44:32,552 --> 00:44:34,532
Speaker 2: We love our patrons so much. If you want to

1076
00:44:34,812 --> 00:44:37,702
Speaker 2: send a note, like our pal did about his book reading,

1077
00:44:38,202 --> 00:44:42,462
Speaker 2: you can go to hello at talkaboutthatpodcast.com. Fire off an

1078
00:44:42,522 --> 00:44:45,422
Speaker 2: email to that address. We'll receive it. Every now and again,

1079
00:44:45,442 --> 00:44:47,282
Speaker 2: we read those notes on the show, but we always

1080
00:44:47,382 --> 00:44:51,252
Speaker 2: read them, and it warms our hearts. Yeah.

1081
00:44:51,592 --> 00:44:53,552
Speaker 3: We read them in our hearts, even if you don't.

1082
00:44:53,852 --> 00:44:55,652
Speaker 2: That's how I read. I can't.

1083
00:44:55,672 --> 00:44:56,431
Speaker 3: In my heart.

1084
00:44:56,912 --> 00:44:57,712
Speaker 2: I read with my heart.

1085
00:44:58,102 --> 00:45:02,582
Speaker 1: You should check out Johnny W. at J-O-N-N-I-E-W.com for new

1086
00:45:02,662 --> 00:45:03,201
Speaker 1: tour days, man.

1087
00:45:03,242 --> 00:45:07,542
Speaker 2: This episode will be coming out on Thursday, and I

1088
00:45:07,562 --> 00:45:09,442
Speaker 2: have a show. If you're listening to this and you're

1089
00:45:09,462 --> 00:45:13,432
Speaker 2: in East Tennessee, I am in Lenore City tonight doing

1090
00:45:13,462 --> 00:45:15,952
Speaker 2: a show, and it's for a guy who does a

1091
00:45:15,992 --> 00:45:20,192
Speaker 2: mission endeavor in Guatemala. All the proceeds to the show

1092
00:45:20,212 --> 00:45:22,532
Speaker 2: go to that. Go to my website. Get tickets for that.

1093
00:45:23,032 --> 00:45:26,932
Speaker 2: If you're in Milwaukee, March 1st, Saturday, I'm doing a

1094
00:45:26,962 --> 00:45:29,522
Speaker 2: show with my buddy, Sean Reynolds. He's hilarious. It's a

1095
00:45:29,542 --> 00:45:31,062
Speaker 2: two-man show. We're going to have a great time. That's

1096
00:45:31,102 --> 00:45:35,262
Speaker 2: at Fox River Christian Center, March 1st, this Saturday. And

1097
00:45:35,322 --> 00:45:36,902
Speaker 2: if you miss those, if you're listening to this and

1098
00:45:36,922 --> 00:45:39,662
Speaker 2: you're late, you're like, ah, we blew it. Sorry, Milwaukee. Sorry,

1099
00:45:39,702 --> 00:45:42,942
Speaker 2: Lenore City. But go to the website. There's other dates.

1100
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Speaker 2: A lot more dates coming up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There's more coming up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Exciting things happening all around. The new studio, Johnny. New

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Speaker 1: tour dates.

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Speaker 2: It's fancy. We fancy it.

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Speaker 3: New YouTube look. Come on, man. It's happening. Thank you

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Speaker 3: guys for enjoying the ride with us. Let's do it

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Speaker 3: again next week here on Talk About That.