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Speaker 3: Yes you have? All right, So Don Lemon has been arrested. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: I know. And I woke up to this news without

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Speaker 2: Possibly an assault on their democracy.

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Speaker 3: No, our Tom, that this is something you see in Russia,

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Speaker 3: none of this is true. None of it is remotely true.

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Speaker 3: But shall we just start with reading Don Lehman's lawyer statement.

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Speaker 3: Don Lemon was taken into custody by federal agents last

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Speaker 3: night in Los Angeles, where he was covering the Grammy Awards.

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Speaker 3: Don has been a journalist for thirty years, and his

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Speaker 3: constitutionally protected work in Minneapolis was no different than what

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Speaker 3: he has always done. Hmmm. The First Amendment exists to

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Speaker 3: And that is the real indictment of wrongdoing in this case.

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Speaker 2: You can unpack like three or four different lives in

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Speaker 2: this two paragraph statement, Like so, first of all, just

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Speaker 4: A disturbing escalation against reporting in America. And I would

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Speaker 5: Think about the countries where journalists are targeted by the

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Speaker 3: With guys, he was just arrested for doing his job

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Speaker 3: He's disliked by the Trump administration. That doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: What matters here is he was being a journalist who

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Speaker 2: But he's clearly on team protester. He's kissing the protesters,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and so he is facing just to be clear,

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Speaker 3: Nobody is above the law. Nobody's above the law. Can

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Speaker 2: We should have that as a sound bite. We can

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Speaker 3: I agree, we played this. This is Nikima Levy Armstrong.

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Speaker 3: This is the organizer of this very ill advised pro tost. No,

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Speaker 3: this is this is harassment. It's illegal. You can't do

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Speaker 3: Amen. And that's a good take. It's a really good take.

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Speaker 2: It just proves that your whole life has been really,

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Speaker 3: So, but here's the ethic. We just have to call

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Speaker 3: And listen. Assassination culture is terrible. We've warned about it,

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Speaker 3: She is the author of a book called Toxic Empathy,

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Speaker 3: How progressive is exploit Christian compassion? And that has been

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Speaker 3: Which is yeah, which is as I am so jealous

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Can you can you introduce Hillary Rodham Clinton to our

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Speaker 6: Kay, Hillary Rodham Clinton. Back in the day, you know Trump.

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Speaker 6: That, Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 7: But long long time ago, when a lot of you

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Speaker 3: Well, congratulations. She has a lot to say about you.

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Speaker 3: She called you the I think the Commissar of Maga Morality.

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Speaker 7: Your response, Yeah, you know, I just appreciate that she

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Speaker 7: So thank you so much, Hillary for being an example

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Speaker 3: Well, so this reminded me of a rant that please

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Speaker 7: You can debate what actually happened when he lost his

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Speaker 7: be a good person in advance the cause of justice.

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Speaker 7: And I just want everyone this is the whole purpose

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Speaker 7: step back and say I can see the humanity and

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Speaker 7: Alex Pretty and Renee good without supporting a policy that

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Speaker 7: would lead to defunding the police or defunding ICE that

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Speaker 7: would lead to more Lake and Riley's and more Molly

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Speaker 7: Tivotsus and more Kate Steinley's. Because I love my neighbor,

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Speaker 7: and by the way, Lake and Riley was my neighbor too,

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Speaker 7: and because I care about her and I care about

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Speaker 7: innocent life, I'm going to continue to support immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 3: Andrews sent you yeah. I mean it's so clear. And

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Speaker 3: you see twenty percent dropping murders, historic dropping murders. You

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Speaker 3: see law and order getting returned to the streets of Memphis, Washington,

468
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Speaker 3: DC and elsewhere. See the fruits of ventanyl deaths are

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Speaker 3: plummeting because we're actually taking that seriously. Women are not

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Speaker 3: getting trafficked over the southern border. We're not missing another

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Speaker 3: five hundred thousand underage miners that happened to be from

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Speaker 3: south of the border. Where was the empathy for these things?

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Speaker 3: And this is why I am just so I love

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Speaker 3: this clip. Greg Goettfeldt went off yesterday five four.

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Speaker 1: How did we get here?

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Speaker 3: Pull back?

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Speaker 5: How did we get here? An open border that let

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Speaker 5: millions in? And you guys didn't give two.

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Speaker 1: Ads scrub outs, okay, right for that border?

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Speaker 5: All right, all right, right, we had dozens of deaths.

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Speaker 5: What you didn't say, Jocelyn Hungarye Lake and Riley, Rachel Morin,

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Speaker 5: Molly Tibbetts.

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Speaker 3: Here's three pages of.

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Speaker 5: Women who have been murdered by illegal aliens in the

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Speaker 5: last like seven or eight years, the seven or eight

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Speaker 5: years that we've been here talking about this and mocked

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Speaker 5: over it.

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Speaker 3: He goes on and I put it on my my

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Speaker 3: X page, so please check that out. It was vintage

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Speaker 3: Greg Gottfeld. You have been calling out where a lot

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Speaker 3: of this rage is coming from, though, and it's on Instagram. Now,

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Speaker 3: you are a conservative Christian, you probably follow a lot

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Speaker 3: of conservative Christians, and yet you have been observing a

494
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Speaker 3: trend on Instagram. What is it? And why are you

495
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Speaker 3: sounding the alarm?

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Speaker 7: It's twenty twenty all over again. I remember when I

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Speaker 7: woke up on June second or third in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 7: and I thought my Instagram was glitching because I saw

499
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Speaker 7: these black squares take over my feed, even from people

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Speaker 7: who call themselves Christian conservatives, and maybe they had a

501
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Speaker 7: Bible Verse underneath, but some of them said, you know,

502
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Speaker 7: black lives matter, and the underlying common assumption and all

503
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Speaker 7: of that was that George Floyd died because of systemic racism,

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Speaker 7: because Derek Chauvin was racist. And the only question that

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Speaker 7: I asked in my head and then later publicly, was

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Speaker 7: how do I know that's true? How do I know

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Speaker 7: that's true? And frankly, I had read too much Thomas

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Speaker 7: Oll and Walter Williams at that point to be duped

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Speaker 7: by all of it, So I just started pointing out

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Speaker 7: that your compatit is lopsided. You don't have any compassion

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Speaker 7: for all of these innocent people who are being killed

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Speaker 7: by the rioters. That's the definition of injustice, punishing someone

513
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Speaker 7: for something that they did not do, which is exactly

514
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Speaker 7: what happened with the chaos of twenty twenty and the

515
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Speaker 7: same thing, of course, is happening today. Everyone feels the

516
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Speaker 7: pressure to signal their virtue. And what bothers me is

517
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Speaker 7: that people who never pipe up about politics, who never

518
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Speaker 7: say anything about what's going on when Biden or Obama

519
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 7: is president, all of the so called kids in cages,

520
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Speaker 7: the miners, separated from parents and lost under the Biden administration,

521
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Speaker 7: now feel the urgency to say, oh, I've got to

522
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Speaker 7: pipe up about politics. I'm like, look, there's a long

523
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Speaker 7: list of injustices that occur when Trump is not president

524
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Speaker 7: that I and others would have loved your voice on.

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Speaker 6: I never hear you talk about abortion.

526
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Speaker 7: I never hear you talk about the kids whose bodies

527
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Speaker 7: are being chopped up because they've been told that they

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Speaker 7: are the wrong gender. I don't hear you talk about

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Speaker 7: any of those injustices. So at least be fair, at

530
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Speaker 7: least be fair, but you should ask yourself, why why

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Speaker 7: is your public outrage completely dictated by what the liberal

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Speaker 7: media says is wrong?

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Speaker 6: And if you can't be fair, just be quiet, Blake.

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Speaker 2: It's there's something about this, like it's that ability to

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Speaker 2: just get it's like a hitting a light switch, the

536
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Speaker 2: ability to get whipped up entirely selectively based on who's

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Speaker 2: in office, who, what's on the news, and it cries

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Speaker 2: out for a better so like psychological explanation. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not entirely sure what it is, because like what's going

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Speaker 2: on in this person's head where you didn't care about

541
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Speaker 2: these things until ten minutes ago, Suddenly it's all important

542
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Speaker 2: and then you you could like even move on and

543
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Speaker 2: change your views. And it's like total amnesia that it

544
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Speaker 2: ever happened, which we've all seen. We've seen the people

545
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Speaker 2: who were entirely whipped up, for example, in Floyda Palooza,

546
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Speaker 2: and then today it's like it never happened. What why

547
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Speaker 2: do you care about that? And it happened to so

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Speaker 2: many things.

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Speaker 7: Imagery is compelling, and when you put up a picture

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Speaker 7: of a child in his little blue toboggan looking sad,

551
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Speaker 7: standing alone with you Federal agents. That evokes something in you,

552
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Speaker 7: and by the way it should, that's something good in

553
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Speaker 7: your heart. If you saw that picture and you're like,

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Speaker 7: oh my gosh, that poor child. But when that is

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Speaker 7: decontextualized and a completely fabricated narrative is attached to it,

556
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Speaker 7: and that is what first circulates, it is really hard

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Speaker 7: for me, for you, for anyone else to compete against

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Speaker 7: an image, To compete against a picture with logic, with questions,

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Speaker 7: telling people to not allow their emotion to arrest their

560
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Speaker 7: critical thinking is really hard because we are all, especially women,

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Speaker 7: emotional creatures. And as we've talked about, as Charlie talked

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Speaker 7: about so often, the progressives don't have the same moral

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Speaker 7: limits that we do. Whereas we don't want to lie,

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Speaker 7: we don't want to misrepresent even if.

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Speaker 6: It advances our cause.

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Speaker 7: Progressives have an ends just by the means mentality that means,

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Speaker 7: if this lie gets ICE agents off the street, then

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Speaker 7: it'll all be worth it. It's just hard to compete

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Speaker 7: with not impossible, but difficult.

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Speaker 3: Well, you think about it, Ali, because you think remember

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Speaker 3: that Nicholas Sandman instance where it was it looked like

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Speaker 3: this young maga young you know, they said a.

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Speaker 2: Mob way surrounded an Indian elder, yes, and harassed him.

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Speaker 3: For reason, and it took years in a massive lawsuit

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Speaker 3: to clear his name. And I bet despite that, there

576
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Speaker 3: is still millions of left wingers and progressives that only

577
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Speaker 3: get their news from one or two sources that still

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Speaker 3: believe that he was attacking an Indian elder. And you

579
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Speaker 3: think about that, there.

580
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Speaker 2: Are still people who think, hands up, don't shoot, that's true,

581
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Speaker 2: that was fate, you know.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, there's still people that think that.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people, by the way, that think it

584
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Speaker 3: was somebody from MAGA that killed Charlie. Because these lies

585
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Speaker 3: are allowed to be perpetuated and they're not corrected. But

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Speaker 3: it's the first lie, the first image, that ends up

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Speaker 3: making the biggest impact, and right, the lie gets halfway

588
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Speaker 3: around the world before the truth has a chance to

589
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Speaker 3: put on its pants. And that is really, I think,

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Speaker 3: a tactic that is being weaponized and used because they

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Speaker 3: know that it's effective, and to your point, they don't

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Speaker 3: have the same restraints. I remember during some of the

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Speaker 3: conspiracy theories that we were confronting, which by the way,

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Speaker 3: you've been amazing on with Ali, I got a question

595
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Speaker 3: from a very prominent person online and we're talking about,

596
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Speaker 3: well what do you do to confront them? And the

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Speaker 3: question was posed to me, how evil are you willing

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Speaker 3: to be? And I said I'm not and they said,

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Speaker 3: well that really limits your options here. Okay, there's a

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Speaker 3: piece here in the Federalist by Kylie Griswold and she's

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Speaker 3: talking about the same phenomenon. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 3: seen this piece. She's talking about Instagram and she's specifically

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Speaker 3: for young women. She says, the information is low, but

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Speaker 3: the emotion is high on Instagram. You'll learn that Immigration

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Speaker 3: and Customs enforcement used an innocent five year old as

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Speaker 3: a bait and then arrested him, and she says false

607
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Speaker 3: he was abandoned by his own illegal alien father. You'll

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Speaker 3: learn that that mother and legal observer Renee Good, was

609
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Speaker 3: gunned down in the streets false, she says. The Ice

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Speaker 3: Watch agitator aimed a weapon ak her two ton suv

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Speaker 3: at a federal officer who had previously been run over

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Speaker 3: by an illegal alien, and then accelerated, hitting him and

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Speaker 3: reportedly causing internal bleeding. You'll learn that the traumatic city's

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Speaker 3: church disruption was First Amendment protected speech and on and

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Speaker 3: on it goes, what do we do? What are I mean,

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Speaker 3: what can be done about this proliferation? Almost got it

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Speaker 3: of highly emotional propaganda?

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Speaker 6: Abolish all social media, Wallish social media.

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Speaker 7: Well you know, I've had an Instagram for about ten

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Speaker 7: years now, and man, I feel like every two years

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Speaker 7: it's another propaganda battle.

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Speaker 6: Twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 7: Of course, it was SHOUMP twenty and eighteen, it was

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Speaker 7: Kavanaugh twenty twenty, it was COVID and George Floyd.

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Speaker 6: Twenty two it was Roe v. Wade being overturned.

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Speaker 7: When we had that flurry of lies about oh, because

627
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Speaker 7: of pro life legislation, women are dying in emergency rooms.

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Speaker 6: We had to debunk that.

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Speaker 7: Twenty twenty four, we had the election, And now here

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Speaker 7: we are in twenty twenty six and we've got a

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Speaker 7: similar situation. And so I feel like I've been through

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Speaker 7: the ringer here. But the hopeful thing is that back

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty, I felt like I was one.

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Speaker 6: Of the only white female evangelicals who was like, oh, actually,

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Speaker 6: I don't think I want to post a black square.

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Speaker 7: And I was confronted by prominent Christian leaders that this

637
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Speaker 7: is the wrong move, this is divisive, this is racist.

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Speaker 7: You should be you know, a part of reconciliation. You

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Speaker 7: should have more empathy. That's what inspired my books. Sometimes

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Speaker 7: it doesn't matter what the facts are. I was told

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Speaker 7: verbatim multiple times. Sometimes it doesn't matter what the truth is.

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Speaker 7: You just have to express your empathy. And that is

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Speaker 7: where I was like, Nope, that is leading us in

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Speaker 7: a really, really bad direction, because public messaging effects public opinion,

645
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Speaker 7: which affects public policy.

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Speaker 6: Which affects the public.

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Speaker 7: It affects people like real lives are lost when we

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Speaker 7: defund the police, when we exacerbate the rights and things

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Speaker 7: like that. So the encouraging part, though, is that now,

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty six, six years later, I do feel

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Speaker 7: when I look to my right and left, not politically,

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Speaker 7: but when I look around, I see more people like

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Speaker 7: me who have platforms, who are willing to say I'm

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Speaker 7: not going to join in with that, I'm not going

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Speaker 7: to repost that at least I'm going to take some

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Speaker 7: time to figure out what's really going on.

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Speaker 6: And then you've got other people who are you.

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Speaker 7: Know, courageous, being like no, that's that's not the right narrative,

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Speaker 7: and actually, like there are other circumstances going on here,

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Speaker 7: and I don't think that that's true. So I'm encouraged

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Speaker 7: by that there are more of us now than there

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Speaker 7: were six years ago, and so we just got to

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Speaker 7: keep pushing. Obviously it's working, or Hillary Rodham Clinton would

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Speaker 7: not be taking out six thousand words the Atlantic to

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Speaker 7: try to urge women back into her folds.

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Speaker 6: Of toxic empathy.

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Speaker 7: By the way, giving a full response to Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 7: later today on my channel. But obviously they're scared, and

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Speaker 7: so we got to keep slugging.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the best hope I can have is maybe you

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Speaker 2: think of how like television impacted people when it first

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Speaker 2: came along, and it fried a lot of brains. You

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Speaker 2: look at an old propaganda reel in World War Two,

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Speaker 2: and if you watch it today, you think this is

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Speaker 2: really stupid. It's really in your face, and it just

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Speaker 2: would not work anymore today because people have gotten used

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Speaker 2: to it. And maybe that's the hope is with social media.

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Speaker 2: We're still in the first generations to encounter this and

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Speaker 2: it cooks our brains really bad, but people who maybe

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Speaker 2: entirely grow up in it will hopefully get used to

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Speaker 2: the manipulation taxics it uses, and we have to hope

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Speaker 2: that because, as you say, it's not just that they're

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Speaker 2: easily propaganda, it's it's also a really dark thing, is

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Speaker 2: the flattening of what maybe call it like flattening of

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Speaker 2: your moral register, where it's very common for people on

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Speaker 2: social media basically view a bad social media take or

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Speaker 2: something they disagree with as equal or worse in moral

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Speaker 2: heinousness to actually killing somebody to actually committing a real

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Speaker 2: life atrocity. And we've seen that over and over. There

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Speaker 2: are people who have gotten canceled off social media who

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Speaker 2: faced far worse effects on their lives than someone who

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Speaker 2: committed a crime in real life, where they'll get a

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Speaker 2: moral cause in their favor and oh, we need to

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Speaker 2: make sure this person gets back on their feet. It's

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Speaker 2: really it's very interesting, and it really drives home the

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Speaker 2: importance of having good moral cultivation. I think we live

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Speaker 2: with an ideal that it's like very easy, you can

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Speaker 2: have naive morality, and no, it has to be cultivated.

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Speaker 2: It's why we need good pastors. It's why we need

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Speaker 2: good religious leaders because a big part of their job

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Speaker 2: is to have that level of moral cultivation, to get

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Speaker 2: past that first hurdle of what's your immediate visual emotional response.

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Speaker 3: Totally agree, and we need moralge from you and the

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Speaker 3: audience you listening to Ali show, listening to this show,

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Speaker 3: we need you to get in the comments. When you

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Speaker 3: see people manipulating you, propagandizing you with slop, you have

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Speaker 3: to be brave. You have to be brave. And it's

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Speaker 3: now where I think we're now at a iteration of

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Speaker 3: this where we need more and more voices to rise up.

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Speaker 3: Ali final thirty seconds to you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Blake, You just made such good points,

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Speaker 7: both of you. But that flattening of like virtue and

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Speaker 7: morality is why empathy should not be your guide, why

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Speaker 7: moral truth has to be your guide, why virtue has

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Speaker 7: to be your guide. It's not about getting rid of compassion.

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Speaker 7: It's allowing your compassion to be guided by what is true,

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Speaker 7: what is logically factually true, but also what is biblically true.

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Speaker 6: You can get exhausted by.

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Speaker 7: Over untethered empathy, but God's ways stay the same, and

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Speaker 7: if you follow that, you'll be headed in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: The truth is unchanging, stay anchored to it. Ali BESTUCKI

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Speaker 3: thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: H For more on many of these stories and news

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Speaker 2: you can trust, go to charlikirk dot com,