WEBVTT - Will Minnesota’s Turning Point Ever Come? 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.360 My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:09.960 American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:13.360 of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.520 to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.919 is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.200 if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.400 up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.600 stop sending your kids to college. 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The Charlie Kirk Show 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.400 is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.440 experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.000 my family, friends and viewers. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.880 All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Our 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.839 two is underway. We are actually going to be joined 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.160 now by Scott Johnson from the power Line Blog, one 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.560 of the groups that has been investigating the Minnesota fraud 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.839 and within the Somali community specifically for a lot longer 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.080 than the public is now aware of, at least the 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.480 vast majority of them. So Scott, welcome to the Charlie 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:33.920 Kirk Show. Thanks for making the time. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:35.119 Blake. 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.960 Blake is the one who turned me onto your reporting 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.640 and your investigative, investigative work. So I'm gonna let him 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.959 take the lead here because what you've been doing needs 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:46.560 to more people need to know about it. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:51.240 Scott, Hey, Scott, Yeah, welcome to the show. I'm a 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.600 big fan of power Line. You guys are. I think 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.200 you guys have literally been blogging before they actually came 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.680 up with the word blog, which is quite I think 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.160 you were like the original Time magazine article about and 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:02.440 all that. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:03.720 Big fan of you guys. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:04.600 Uh. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.720 And what I like about what you guys have really 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:08.200 pointed out. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.480 You've had a lot of posts on this explosion of 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.360 interest in the Somali story, and what you've pointed out 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:19.040 is this is not it's not truly a new story. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.280 Even Nick Sureley, he's not He's not even the first 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.799 person to go around knocking on the doors of daycares. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.280 And so I thought we could set this up by 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.640 you could just explain a little bit about what you 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.600 know as a conservative on the ground in Minnesota, what 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.600 the real state of affairs is, and what is the 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.120 best thing that could happen if we want to see 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.480 accountability for this And I guess I sup must be 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.679 obviously useful policy developments at the national level as a 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:48.720 result of this scandal. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.720 Well, that's that's a big question. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.760 The last time you had me on like it was 0:02:54.800 --> 0:03:00.600 to talk in the aftermath of the controversy that Chris 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.440 Ruffo had raised with a City Journal column this past November, 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.400 and it created a huge impact all around the country 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:13.360 because President Trump attended to that matter, and all of 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.400 a sudden there were there were calls for investigation coming 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.960 from all over the country directed at the United States 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:24.720 Attorney for Minnesota and the local FBI office here. But 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.840 in fact, the case that Ruffo wrote about, the fraud 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:35.800 cases that have been drawn to his attention are four 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.920 years old. They're gonna be let's see, since twenty twenty one, 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.120 they've been under investigation by the FBI. There have been 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.560 at least fifty convictions in those cases. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.560 There are about twenty eight more maybe to go. 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:56.040 And this round of controversy is created by this incredible 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:00.080 video that Nick Shirley created knocking on doors around on 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.240 the Twin Cities to demonstrate the level of fraud in 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:08.000 one aspect of these cases that is also. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.960 Under investigation and also being charged. 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.320 And that's the most the thing I would like your 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:17.520 audience to know more than anything else, is that these 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.360 matters are under investigation by the FBI, and they are 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.320 being prosecuted by the United States Attorney for the District 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.520 of Minnesota. And whatever credit you give to me for 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.760 covering these cases comes from the fact that I have followed. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.960 I've the press conferences called by the US Attorney here, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.080 and I've attended the trials held in these cases is here. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.320 And this is all from my perspective. Old news. Now, 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.880 what's the name of the gentleman you were going to 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:52.159 have on this afternoon, Nick Shirley. Surely you know I'm 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.839 just inundated with questions about this, but surely's video focuses 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.960 on one aspect of the frauds that are being investigated here. 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:07.000 The daycare frauds, and he highlights in the video an 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.640 office in the city of Saint Paul called the Griggs 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.880 Midway Building that had twenty two offices that were devoted 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:18.200 to some aspect of these frauds. And the funny thing 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:25.240 is that office building was rated in July and at 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.440 the time I posted one of the search warrants that 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.920 was executed in July on power Line, and then in 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.480 September several of those cases out of the Griggs Midway 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:41.520 building were charged. Now, the first charge cases involved another 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:48.480 medicaid fraud Minnesota. Medic Medicaid has fourteen waiver programs and 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.920 daycare has been a longstanding problem. But the first charge 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.159 cases in that have come out of the Griggs Midway 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:01.640 Building and Saint Paul are in housing stabilization services, which 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.560 seems to be a fraud of the kind that Nick 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:08.400 Shirley is exposing in this video that has gone viral. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.320 So the one thing I would like your audience to 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.839 know is that this matter, to use President Trump's term, 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:19.000 is being attended to. The FBI is investigating it, and 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.279 the cases are being charged. There are more that will 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.760 be charged this week. If there's a problem, it's that 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:31.320 the United States Attorney's Office for Minnesota is not huge. 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.200 There might be five or six prosecutors working on these 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:38.039 cases and a team of FBI agents. If anything, it's 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.240 time to send in reinforcements. But the matter, this is 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.640 not news. It does not need to be investigated in 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.560 the sense that a case needs to be open. It 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.560 is under investigation and the cases are being charged. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.920 Yeah, it's interesting. I want to read a line from 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.440 your post this morning. It says before Nick Shirley and 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.839 after and you say, Joe Thompson, the US Attorney for Minnesota, 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:03.640 has all but shouted the point from the rooftop. Minnesota 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:08.000 is drowning in fraud. To put it another way, Thompson 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.600 was shouting, wake up. The volume of fraud is beyond 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.880 the capacity of his office to remedy by prosecution alone. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:20.920 And you asked him, Okay, are there more people you 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:25.280 could charge? And do they match basically the appearance of 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.840 the cases we've seen so far? In other words, are 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.960 there more Somali fraud cases that he's just been unable 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.480 to get to? And he told you yes, So we 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.720 have the evidence, we have the cases. It seems that 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.720 we literally just have a case where we need more 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.680 prosecutors and more manpower to bring the paperwork charges. 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.080 Is that the situation as I do I understand. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.800 It correctly to go back to the beginning, which is the. 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.320 Searches and indictments that were handed up in the year 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.240 twenty twenty two. Out of the investigation that began in 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.400 twenty twenty one, we're in this Feeding Our Future that 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.560 involved three hundred million dollars the original indictments, there was 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.920 a forty a set of forty seven indictments that were 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.040 handed up by the grand jury in September twenty twenty two, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:16.400 and those cases have multiplied. They're up to seventy some now. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:22.720 And that's how these subsequent frauds were discovered, is that 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.280 Joe Thompson and the FBI, as they followed the money 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:32.679 coming out of medicaid to and this Feeding our Future, 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.440 as they followed the money, they found some of the 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:40.800 same cast of characters. The defendants in the Feeding Our 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.840 Future case are basically a white woman who set up 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:49.200 this Feeding our Future nonprofit and recruited Somali, a Somali 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:53.360 cast of characters to run these fraudulent program programs around 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.480 the state. So that's how it happened. 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.840 Is that this thing has been under investigation for four years. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.560 I wanted to You've watched Minnesota politics for a long time, 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:04.640 and it's always struck me. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:05.199 As a state. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.960 It seems like it should be a purple or red 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:13.079 state by now, like it should follow the arc of Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.079 move a bit to the right. Yet it's always been 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.120 this white whale. It never seems to happen, even when 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.000 it seems like this, a scandal like this should be 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.920 a huge feeding frenzy for a state Republican and you 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:28.240 guys have good local conservative leaning investigators Alpha News. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.280 You guys, what's going on? 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.800 Why does Minnesota never seem to reach that turning point 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.120 that it seems like it should. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.520 Well, I hate to point the finger at the Somali 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:42.480 community again, but the problem is Kennepin County, which is 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:47.040 the county in which minneapolisits, and the Democratic majority there 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:51.000 is so huge, including a large component of Somali voters, 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.800 that it makes up for the Democrats weakness in rural Minnesota, 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.240 and they do lose out state Minnesota has shifted. 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I don't know what the margin of defeat 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.520 for Trump was in Minnesota, Blake, if you've got that handy, 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.880 but it's I I'd be surprised if it was much 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.520 higher than two hundred thousand. But we'll check the Uh, 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.080 you know, you mentioned this voting block and Nick Shirley, 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.520 who we've been talking about, who's actually he's had reschedule 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.640 with us. He'll be on tomorrow. Uh mentions this exact 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:04.480 thing one eighteen. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.120 Heavn or Tim Walls is saying that you and others 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.040 that are out there trying to expose this, you. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.480 Know you're doing it because you're white supremacist. 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.000 What is your response to him? 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.840 Yeah, Tim wants votes. There are entire apartment complex that 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:18.920 where white people have been pushed out of these apartment 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.240 complexes because Somalians have taken over in there, inside of 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.960 these towns like Minneapolis, where they can go and go 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.200 get votes from these people. And if you have one 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.560 hundred thousand people that will vote for you because you're 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.120 going to enable and let this stuff happen, and because 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.559 you're going to call white person races for calling out facts. 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.360 This is what's going to happen to state like Minnesota. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:41.360 Minnesota's they say in Minnesota nice, but they are very upset. 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.000 And I fully understand why they're upset because they don't 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:45.560 have a governor who's actually working for them. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.080 He's actually working against them. 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.360 I guess what I'm wondering is I just checked and 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.320 Trump lost President Trump lost Minnesota by about one and 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.800 a half points in twenty sixteen, he lost by more 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.520 in twenty twenty, and in twenty twenty four he lost 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.560 by four points, So it actually has shifted a little 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.560 bit bluer over the past eight years. Is that just 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.400 a demographic effect or do you think is there something? 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.640 Is there something too that you'll always hear from outside Minnesota. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.640 People will say it's that Scandinavian psychology, So I guess 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.280 i'd ask what you think of that? And also just 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.920 in general, I know you say it's not a news 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.080 story there, but it is getting a lot of attention. 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.439 Is this the sort of thing people are talking about 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.200 all the time there? Is it taking over discourse in 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:32.800 the state in a way it didn't before. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.280 I think the point that Nick surely made in the 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.000 video that you played is absolutely right. It's hard to 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.960 convey the level of impest on the one hand and 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.720 anger on the other that this story generates. You know, 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.560 people feel like they're being treated as chumps and they're 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.960 really mad about it. And I can't think of a comparable, 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:57.079 you know, issue of public affairs in the past ten 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.400 years in Minnesota that has generated this level of interest. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:01.680 It's had a huge impact. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:08.600 President Trump had an impact in twenty sixteen. I think 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.680 one effect he had was turning suburbs around in head 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:17.160 of a county around the Twin Cities Lure because the 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:21.040 suburban voters don't like his style or whatever. I really 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.600 haven't thought about the question that you're raising right now, 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.440 and hesitate to say more about the political impact and. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:29.440 So on. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:35.120 But I do think that we need a serious Republican 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.520 candidate at the top of the ticket. In twenty twenty six, 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.400 we had a weak Republican gubernatorial candidate in twenty twenty two. 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:47.200 It brought down competitive candidates under him. If we have 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.560 several good candidates running for the Republican gubernatorial nomination in 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.280 twenty twenty six, and if one of them gets the 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.080 nomination and is endorsed, I think will win. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.840 Yeah, we can hope, man, we can hope. Just so 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:02.320 we're just so. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.080 We're clear the raw vote. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:05.360 The raw vote. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.720 Difference in twenty twenty four in Minnesota was one hundred 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.440 and thirty eight thousand, one hundred votes, so Donald Trump 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:16.720 received one point five. Essentially, Harris received one point sixty five, 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.480 so it was one hundred and thirty eight thousand raw 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.760 votes that Minnesota was won by. And if you think 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.280 the Somali community, which has been largely imported since the 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.760 late nineties, I mean that's let's say it's over two 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:30.440 hundred thousand. 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.880 I mean there's it's about eighty thousand. So it's not 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:34.200 like the difference. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.000 I've heard larger numbers. Do we know the actual numbers 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.720 here how many Somalis are in Minnesota? 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.200 I would say no, you can get official numbers would 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.000 be something like the eighty thousand that you're using, But 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:46.720 I think it's well over one hundred thousand. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:49.280 It is a fair number. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:56.160 And and and they're not entirely in Minneapolis, but they're concentrated. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.800 And it used to be called little Little Mogadishu. That's 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:01.680 the fifth district. 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:07.440 Hannafin County and Minneapolis an interring suburb. It's ilhan Omer's district. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.000 So yeah, it's not so little anymore. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.920 When the mogad issue has gotten bigger. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.560 Well, it's not just, but it's not just it's not 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.800 just Minnesota. By the way, this is in Ohio. There's 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.040 now reports of over five hundred childcare facilities in the 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:29.960 state of Washington run by Somali's. So we'll see how 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.760 far the rabbit hole goes down. This is a very 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.880 interesting conversation. Scott Johnson has been with his power Line blog, 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:41.960 has been investigating the I guess fraud situation, different aspects 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.800 of it in Minneapolis or Minnesota. Scott, does this go 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.120 back twenty years twenty five years for you? How long 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.560 have you been doing your research and investigations. 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:55.200 Well, we started power Line in over a Memorial Day 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:59.720 weekend two thousand and two. I'm trying to thank the 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:04.800 free I really got seriously interested in this subject. I 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:12.280 covered the Minnesota was a fount of folks supporting al Shabab, 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:19.000 and in twenty sixteen there was a terrorism trial here. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:24.399 There were nine charged Somali Minnesotas who were seeking to 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.200 join ISIS. Six of them pleaded guilty. Three of them 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.280 went to trial in twenty sixteen. I covered that trial, 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:36.240 and these were young, charismatic men who on the surface 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.800 were apparently assimilated. They were well spoken, they were taking 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:45.200 advantage of opportunities, they were educated, they were taking advantage 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.959 of every employment and educational opportunity I could think of. So, 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.440 you know, I was exposed to some of them as 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.840 they came through the courtroom. But the three defendants, I 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.639 saw one of them testified and one of the nine 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.879 turned in and were a wire. So you got to 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.919 hear what these guys really thought of us, and it 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.280 was really it was shocking how much hatred they had 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.680 for the United States. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:11.439 Wow. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.800 And in the course of that trial, I saw, you know, 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.280 one of the programs they were taking advantage of was 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:21.680 student loans and one of the defendants pulled out five 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.160 hundred dollars on a debit card from his student loan 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.640 to finance his trip to Turkey to try to get 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:33.400 to Isis. And these folks were apprehended before they before 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.199 they left the United States. But it was shocking to 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:41.480 me how how cognizant they were of the seams and 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.040 the system that they could take advantage of and so on. 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.560 Yeah, it's really revealing. 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.879 One of the places they investigated the way it had 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.320 all three it was like it had a transportation company 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.600 and it had like a home, a medicaid company, and 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.399 a daycare. They're aware of where you can go to 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.159 get the money. And as you said, it's nice that 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.359 you brought up the terrorism nexus of this. 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.280 In twenty nineteen. 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.440 I've got it right in front of me. Fox nine 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:14.080 out of Minneapolis, Saint Paul. They investigated this story and 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.080 there was literally reports. This was noted that millions of 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.639 dollars was being flown out of the Minneapolis airport in 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.960 suitcases in cash. They just had cash stuff in suitcases 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.480 and they're flying it to Somalia. 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:29.600 It's beyond a doubt. 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.120 A lot of that probably ended up with extremists, al 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.440 Shabab terrorists. And it says in that article that it's 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:39.240 well known that starting a daycare is a way to 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.120 print money in this community twenty nineteen. 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.840 It's just well feeding friendly. 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.960 Yeah, and I think the cash being flown out he 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.320 has never been substantiated. But that's where we came in. 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.120 It was with daycare fraud. I wrote account for city 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.879 journal called MODISHU Minnesota, I think in twenty eighteen that 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.760 referred to the issue of daycare fraud and the story 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.240 about cash being flown to Somalia. I'm not so sure 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.199 that that part of it is true, but it certainly 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.760 has been a concern for a substantial period. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:10.840 At the time. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:15.080 Well, so my question, then, Scott goes to the politicians 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.320 that have been complicit in this right. In twenty twenty three, 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.760 Governor walt said that, you know, childcare providers need a raise, 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.919 which basically, you know, was you know, a tip of 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:28.359 the cap to his his constituents in the smaller community. 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.160 I gotta believe, what, what are are we looking at 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:38.000 complicity within the elected class in Minnesota? Can we are 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.280 you going to be pursuing that investigation? What can we 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:43.560 expect in terms of Tim Waltz and other official officials 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:43.960 in the state. 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:47.240 I don't think Tim Walls and I don't think Attorney 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.640 General Keith Ellison. I don't think either one of them 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:53.080 has either said for an interview regarding what they knew 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:57.639 when when on this massive public programs fraud. And it 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.560 would be nice if, you know, the big media outlets 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.480 here like the Minneapolis Star Tribune now known as the 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:08.199 Minnesota Star Tribune, would ask for interviews and tell us 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:11.159 what the response is that they get. Will either of 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.919 these guys sit for an interview during the second of 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:15.840 these Feeding Our Future trials? 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.760 Earlier this year, I sent sets of questions. 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.439 I asked for interviews of both Walls and Allison to 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:26.639 ask those questions, and I sent them written questions on 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.600 the subject of what they knew when when Keith Ellison, 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:31.560 the Attorney General of the state, is a guy who 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:35.640 brags about how he can spot a fraud when he's 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.800 talking about President Trump. So I was curious about when 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:42.040 he spotted the fraud that took place under his auspices 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.639 here over the last six years. 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:46.119 It's unbelievable. 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.800 You know, these guys have specialized in either looking the 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:56.760 other way or facilitating ya what we've seen over the 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.000 past seven cases. 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.240 We're out of time here, Scott, but thank you so much, 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:02.200 Thank you so much for your work. 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:02.480 Everyone. 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:06.360 Check out power Line blog if you want unlimited Minnesota content. 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.880