1 00:00:02,670 --> 00:00:03,650 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:04,590 --> 00:00:05,590 Speaker 2: Hey, Macy, thanks for joining me. 3 00:00:06,050 --> 00:00:07,170 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. 4 00:00:07,790 --> 00:00:10,410 Speaker 2: Macy McLean, who was involved in the new movie Flywheel 5 00:00:10,470 --> 00:00:12,610 Speaker 2: Ignition of the Soul. It tells the story of a 6 00:00:12,770 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: used car salesman whose unethical approach to business begins unraveling. 7 00:00:18,420 --> 00:00:21,100 Speaker 2: It's the latest movie from the Kendrick brothers. Macy, you 8 00:00:21,140 --> 00:00:23,860 Speaker 2: have a unique role in this. You're part of the 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,430 Speaker 2: English speaking cast because this movie was originally filmed in Brazil. 10 00:00:28,470 --> 00:00:32,110 Speaker 2: It's filmed in Portuguese. What is your role in the movie? 11 00:00:32,370 --> 00:00:34,489 Speaker 2: Who do you speak for? And why did you want 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,150 Speaker 2: to be a part of it? 13 00:00:36,020 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. So my role in the movie is Anna. She's 14 00:00:38,659 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: the wife. And, okay, I wanted to be a part 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: of this because I believe it's 20 years old since 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,909 Speaker 1: they've made the first one. 20 years exactly this year. 17 00:00:50,550 --> 00:00:52,730 Speaker 1: So I was little when the first one came out. 18 00:00:52,930 --> 00:00:56,710 Speaker 1: And my dad loved the first one. And I think 19 00:00:56,770 --> 00:00:59,470 Speaker 1: it was one of the, I mean... I really think 20 00:00:59,490 --> 00:01:02,290 Speaker 1: it was the very first Christian film we'd ever seen 21 00:01:02,310 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: or I'd ever seen. And I just remember my dad 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,340 Speaker 1: just loved it so much. And I've always remembered that 23 00:01:08,380 --> 00:01:11,260 Speaker 1: through the years. So when I got the call to do, 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, like to voice Anna, I was like, it 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: just felt really special. My dad is somebody that has 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,190 Speaker 1: that integrity and fights for the kind of integrity that 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,270 Speaker 1: you'll see the lead character kind of going on a 28 00:01:25,290 --> 00:01:29,190 Speaker 1: journey with or of. And, I think that's why it 29 00:01:29,209 --> 00:01:31,450 Speaker 1: felt so special to me because I've seen my dad 30 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:35,380 Speaker 1: stand up for things and I've seen him really fight 31 00:01:35,420 --> 00:01:37,539 Speaker 1: to do the right thing, even when it was impossible. 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: And even when like everyone was like, you're crazy. And 33 00:01:40,940 --> 00:01:43,459 Speaker 1: so it felt kind of close to home in that sense. 34 00:01:44,300 --> 00:01:46,190 Speaker 1: So when I called him, I was doing it. He 35 00:01:46,230 --> 00:01:48,730 Speaker 1: was like, what? Yeah. 36 00:01:48,750 --> 00:01:51,110 Speaker 2: The Kendrick brothers, like this, this was their first movie 37 00:01:51,850 --> 00:01:54,210 Speaker 2: and they're honest when they talk about it. They're like, 38 00:01:54,270 --> 00:01:56,330 Speaker 2: that's not, if we could have done it all over again, 39 00:01:56,350 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: it would have been It was shot with a low-budget camera. 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: It just didn't have a big budget. This was the 41 00:02:02,900 --> 00:02:07,940 Speaker 2: one immediately before Facing the Giants. It was that, Facing 42 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,030 Speaker 2: the Giants, and then Fireproof, and then Courageous. I'm showing 43 00:02:11,050 --> 00:02:13,050 Speaker 2: my age here because I covered all of those except 44 00:02:13,070 --> 00:02:14,970 Speaker 2: this one. I didn't cover Flywell. This is a remake 45 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:15,250 Speaker 2: of that. 46 00:02:15,450 --> 00:02:15,830 Speaker 1: It's kind of a. 47 00:02:15,830 --> 00:02:18,650 Speaker 2: Reimagining of it, I guess, because they took it to 48 00:02:18,690 --> 00:02:22,750 Speaker 2: Brazil and kind of made it, I guess, kind of 49 00:02:22,910 --> 00:02:26,410 Speaker 2: a movie for to spread the gospel in Brazil. It's 50 00:02:26,450 --> 00:02:29,990 Speaker 2: really cool what they're doing there. What were the challenges 51 00:02:30,050 --> 00:02:33,810 Speaker 2: though of doing this voicing? Because most of your roles, 52 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:37,220 Speaker 2: I'm guessing, have been in front of the camera. What's 53 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: it like to voice and try to bring a character 54 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,660 Speaker 2: to life through your voice? 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,980 Speaker 1: It was hard. It was like, okay, I had to 56 00:02:44,020 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: like get in the groove of it because you're in 57 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: a studio and you're not even in the studio with 58 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: your director. So our director is, I think he was 59 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles at the time. I was in Atlanta. 60 00:02:54,389 --> 00:02:57,429 Speaker 1: And he's just like calling in, like directing me over 61 00:02:57,470 --> 00:03:02,150 Speaker 1: the phone basically. But man, it's so hard because even 62 00:03:02,210 --> 00:03:06,230 Speaker 1: things like, even acting wise, I'm having to match her acting. 63 00:03:06,650 --> 00:03:09,470 Speaker 1: So I have to like watch the scene in real time. 64 00:03:09,490 --> 00:03:12,690 Speaker 1: I haven't really, you know, hardly seen it. And I'm like, okay, 65 00:03:12,740 --> 00:03:14,620 Speaker 1: this scene, she's doing this. Okay. Okay. So I have 66 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,820 Speaker 1: to watch, I have to match her inflection. I have 67 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: to match the way she's saying that, you know, so 68 00:03:19,460 --> 00:03:21,660 Speaker 1: even things I would do differently or the same or whatever, 69 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,540 Speaker 1: I had to be like, no, this is, This is Anna. 70 00:03:24,620 --> 00:03:27,590 Speaker 1: She's playing Anna. I am just the voice for her. 71 00:03:28,350 --> 00:03:31,370 Speaker 1: So it was hard. And also with Portuguese and English, 72 00:03:32,150 --> 00:03:34,890 Speaker 1: they talk, gosh, is it faster or slower? 73 00:03:34,910 --> 00:03:36,970 Speaker 2: I've always thought they talked faster. 74 00:03:37,110 --> 00:03:39,590 Speaker 1: They talk faster. So I had to figure out how 75 00:03:39,610 --> 00:03:44,490 Speaker 1: to match English to be the same cadence as her 76 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:46,870 Speaker 1: mouth moving, because you want to match it as close 77 00:03:46,910 --> 00:03:50,390 Speaker 1: as you can. So I had an incredible director and 78 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it was fun. It was a fun challenge. 79 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: I'd never done anything like it. 80 00:03:54,900 --> 00:03:59,460 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's done really well. What you're seeing 81 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:02,970 Speaker 2: on screen, of course, is an all-Brazilian cast, I believe. 82 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,770 Speaker 1: They're so good. Oh, my word. 83 00:04:04,870 --> 00:04:08,990 Speaker 2: They're so good. I was blown away by the excellence 84 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:11,770 Speaker 2: of the acting. I mean, if people saw the original 85 00:04:11,810 --> 00:04:14,090 Speaker 2: Flywheel and saw this, they would think it's night and 86 00:04:14,110 --> 00:04:16,730 Speaker 2: day in terms of just the quality of it. So 87 00:04:17,210 --> 00:04:19,210 Speaker 2: if you didn't like the original, give this one a shot. 88 00:04:19,620 --> 00:04:19,770 Speaker 1: Yes. 89 00:04:20,270 --> 00:04:21,530 Speaker 2: I think it's really, it's done really well. 90 00:04:21,610 --> 00:04:24,550 Speaker 1: Go ahead. Not original, man. It's, you know, the Kindred 91 00:04:24,570 --> 00:04:27,730 Speaker 1: Brothers with their films, it's such a ministry. How they 92 00:04:27,770 --> 00:04:30,730 Speaker 1: approach filmmaking is truly like, I mean, it's their ministry. 93 00:04:31,230 --> 00:04:33,050 Speaker 1: And so it's so cool to even think about that 94 00:04:33,089 --> 00:04:37,089 Speaker 1: first film, how like low quality. I mean, you Google 95 00:04:37,130 --> 00:04:40,810 Speaker 1: it and you're like, whoa. But it's still made, man. 96 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:43,750 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it impacted my dad so much. 97 00:04:44,350 --> 00:04:46,420 Speaker 1: And it's just cool how God can take something like, 98 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,330 Speaker 1: they were just kind of, you know, going for it. 99 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,310 Speaker 1: And then still made an impact. So now to see 100 00:04:52,350 --> 00:04:55,030 Speaker 1: what can happen through this one at the excellence it's at, 101 00:04:55,070 --> 00:04:57,870 Speaker 1: the quality it's at, it's really, I think it's really exciting. 102 00:04:58,130 --> 00:05:00,070 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just brought their loaves and fishes and God 103 00:05:00,110 --> 00:05:04,260 Speaker 2: multiplied it. It was real. Yeah, here it is. This movie, 104 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:06,020 Speaker 2: like you said, is about integrity. It's about family. It's 105 00:05:06,060 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: about following Christ. Before we move to another subject, what 106 00:05:08,860 --> 00:05:11,460 Speaker 2: are the lessons in this film for the audience? What 107 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: do you think? 108 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:16,630 Speaker 1: Man, I mean, every time I watch it, it's, man, 109 00:05:17,150 --> 00:05:21,089 Speaker 1: I just feel like he, the lead character just really 110 00:05:21,130 --> 00:05:24,010 Speaker 1: goes out on a limb at every turn after he 111 00:05:24,029 --> 00:05:26,210 Speaker 1: gives his life to Christ of like, what does it 112 00:05:26,250 --> 00:05:28,390 Speaker 1: mean to actually follow Christ? Like, what does it mean 113 00:05:28,410 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: to actually, when the Lord says do something, you put 114 00:05:31,710 --> 00:05:34,340 Speaker 1: everything on the line and do it, no matter how 115 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,500 Speaker 1: insane you're going to look, no matter how much of 116 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,060 Speaker 1: a risk it is, even financially. I mean, he really 117 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: risks it all because the Lord, you know, basically, I 118 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,370 Speaker 1: don't want to give away the story, but, you know, 119 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,729 Speaker 1: tells him to do some drastic things. And, I just 120 00:05:48,750 --> 00:05:51,510 Speaker 1: think even fighting for that integrity, I think the world 121 00:05:51,589 --> 00:05:53,590 Speaker 1: is watching us and how we live our life and 122 00:05:54,210 --> 00:05:58,470 Speaker 1: what obedience we have to Christ. And man, we say 123 00:05:58,510 --> 00:06:01,330 Speaker 1: we trust God, but when you actually have to put 124 00:06:01,370 --> 00:06:04,409 Speaker 1: yourself on the line like that, like he does, it'll 125 00:06:04,450 --> 00:06:07,290 Speaker 1: show where your faith is. And it's a challenge to 126 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:08,690 Speaker 1: all of us. Yeah. 127 00:06:08,710 --> 00:06:10,750 Speaker 2: For those who don't know the story, he's selling used 128 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:16,550 Speaker 2: cars with problems that have had major problems and he's 129 00:06:16,570 --> 00:06:20,089 Speaker 2: selling them. as kind of newer cars or like new 130 00:06:20,130 --> 00:06:23,190 Speaker 2: cars or whatever. And then the plot turns when he 131 00:06:23,230 --> 00:06:26,010 Speaker 2: does it to his pastor. He sells his pastor this 132 00:06:26,050 --> 00:06:30,469 Speaker 2: car that should have been probably worth, I don't know, 133 00:06:30,470 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: 500 bucks or in a scrapyard. And he sells it 134 00:06:32,250 --> 00:06:34,860 Speaker 2: to him for thousands and thousands of dollars. It's a 135 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: funny scene, but it's a turning point in his life. 136 00:06:37,820 --> 00:06:40,140 Speaker 2: It's been 10 years since your breakout role in I'm 137 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: Not Ashamed when you portrayed Rachel Joy Scott, the teenager 138 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,420 Speaker 2: killed at Columbine. When you look back at that, how 139 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,140 Speaker 2: did that impact? where you are today and how did 140 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,220 Speaker 2: that impact your life at the time? 141 00:06:52,260 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it shaped so much of 142 00:06:54,620 --> 00:06:58,110 Speaker 1: my journey and career in film. I mean, I got 143 00:06:58,140 --> 00:07:00,570 Speaker 1: to do a film that was just so bold for 144 00:07:00,610 --> 00:07:04,270 Speaker 1: the Lord. And man, even when I think about getting 145 00:07:04,310 --> 00:07:07,089 Speaker 1: to do that project, I'm still so taken aback because 146 00:07:07,110 --> 00:07:10,650 Speaker 1: I get messages still today where people are like, Hey, 147 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:13,500 Speaker 1: I just turned that movie on. And I mean, my 148 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,150 Speaker 1: life has changed or I just, you know, I'm, I'm, 149 00:07:17,190 --> 00:07:19,130 Speaker 1: on my knees praying in my bedroom and I just 150 00:07:19,180 --> 00:07:21,540 Speaker 1: gave my life to Christ. And I just, it always 151 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: centers me back to what is the purpose of what 152 00:07:24,340 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing as an actress. And, you know, it's like, 153 00:07:27,180 --> 00:07:30,100 Speaker 1: I mean, I auditioned for everything I've been in everything, 154 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:33,270 Speaker 1: you know, like whether it's of a faith Avenue or not, 155 00:07:33,950 --> 00:07:35,990 Speaker 1: but man, when it boils down to it, it's like my, 156 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:38,869 Speaker 1: my life and my mission is for the kingdom of God. 157 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:41,730 Speaker 1: And it has to be. And that movie just so 158 00:07:41,930 --> 00:07:44,110 Speaker 1: the Lord just so graciously set the tone for the 159 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:47,450 Speaker 1: rest of, you know, for my career. Um, it being 160 00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:51,270 Speaker 1: for his glory and for his kingdom. And I just, 161 00:07:51,590 --> 00:07:52,990 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like it shaped a lot. 162 00:07:53,570 --> 00:07:54,910 Speaker 2: Did you grow up wanting to be an actress? 163 00:07:55,870 --> 00:07:57,890 Speaker 1: I mean, I was always like in front of the 164 00:07:57,910 --> 00:08:02,300 Speaker 1: camera and you know, those, that kind of an entertainer child. 165 00:08:02,780 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: And then when I was 15, I did my first 166 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: play and I just, have you ever seen chariots of fire? 167 00:08:09,460 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 168 00:08:10,140 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: Okay. You know, it's like when he's being interviewed and 169 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: he says like, when I run, I feel the Lord's pleasure. 170 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:17,250 Speaker 1: He's like, I feel God's delight. This is what I 171 00:08:17,270 --> 00:08:20,090 Speaker 1: was made to do. I felt that when I was 172 00:08:20,470 --> 00:08:22,610 Speaker 1: acting for the first time. It's like, oh my goodness, 173 00:08:22,650 --> 00:08:25,130 Speaker 1: I feel like this is what the Lord has given 174 00:08:25,190 --> 00:08:28,270 Speaker 1: me to do. When I act, I feel the Lord's pleasure. 175 00:08:28,330 --> 00:08:30,350 Speaker 1: It felt like that. And I felt like I could 176 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:33,150 Speaker 1: fly for the first time and just was like, oh, 177 00:08:33,630 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: I want to do this the. 178 00:08:34,420 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: Rest of my life. 179 00:08:35,660 --> 00:08:37,740 Speaker 1: And so now anytime I'm on a set, I kind 180 00:08:37,780 --> 00:08:39,579 Speaker 1: of have that feeling again. Yeah. 181 00:08:39,970 --> 00:08:43,250 Speaker 2: You've also portrayed Ashley Baxter in The Baxters and Beth 182 00:08:43,270 --> 00:08:45,580 Speaker 2: O'Leary in Soul on Fire, which came out, I think, 183 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,940 Speaker 2: in the past couple of years. What types of projects 184 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: attract you? Are there certain ones that you're gravitated toward? 185 00:09:00,710 --> 00:09:03,709 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just feel like it never gets 186 00:09:03,790 --> 00:09:07,090 Speaker 1: old to do things that actually make an eternal impact 187 00:09:07,130 --> 00:09:11,689 Speaker 1: in people's life. Because I mean, this business is so fickle. Like, 188 00:09:11,770 --> 00:09:14,370 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I love doing projects even that 189 00:09:14,390 --> 00:09:17,290 Speaker 1: are just for fun. I mean, those are entertainment. I'm 190 00:09:17,309 --> 00:09:19,890 Speaker 1: an entertainer. I love that stuff. But at the end 191 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:21,290 Speaker 1: of the day, you can do a project and then 192 00:09:21,330 --> 00:09:24,100 Speaker 1: it's over. But man, when you get to do something 193 00:09:24,140 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: that people come up to me and just like, hey, 194 00:09:27,140 --> 00:09:30,459 Speaker 1: that your character like it made an impact on my life. 195 00:09:30,540 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: Like it changed the way I view the world. It 196 00:09:32,780 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: changed the way I live my life. Then I'm like, 197 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,250 Speaker 1: that just is always humbling because I'm like, how cool? 198 00:09:39,050 --> 00:09:41,449 Speaker 1: How cool the power of film, you know? So I 199 00:09:41,510 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: love inspirational stories. And I love, I don't know, I 200 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,460 Speaker 1: love anything that really moves people and hits a chord 201 00:09:49,580 --> 00:09:52,260 Speaker 1: deep in their soul. Yeah. 202 00:09:52,660 --> 00:09:57,050 Speaker 2: You've also been writing. You're an actress in front of 203 00:09:57,090 --> 00:09:59,230 Speaker 2: the screen. You're a voice actress with this one. And 204 00:09:59,250 --> 00:10:02,750 Speaker 2: you're also a screenwriter. You had a project that just 205 00:10:02,790 --> 00:10:04,060 Speaker 2: came out in the past few days you were telling 206 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: me about before we started recording here, a Great American 207 00:10:06,420 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: Family movie, which I love. I love those Great American 208 00:10:08,580 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: Family movies. This is a Christmas movie. So tell us 209 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: a little bit about that. 210 00:10:12,780 --> 00:10:16,590 Speaker 1: So I started writing in COVID era, because I didn't 211 00:10:16,610 --> 00:10:18,390 Speaker 1: know what to do with my life or my time, 212 00:10:19,130 --> 00:10:23,010 Speaker 1: because acting stopped at the time, obviously. And so an 213 00:10:23,170 --> 00:10:26,030 Speaker 1: actress that I worked with in I'm Not Ashamed, she 214 00:10:26,070 --> 00:10:28,850 Speaker 1: played like one of the mean girls. We became really close. 215 00:10:29,590 --> 00:10:32,210 Speaker 1: And we like actually were roommates in LA for a while. 216 00:10:32,429 --> 00:10:34,550 Speaker 1: And then during COVID, we just decided to become a 217 00:10:34,590 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: writing duo. And so now she's my writing partner from 218 00:10:38,530 --> 00:10:41,420 Speaker 1: I'm Not Ashamed. It's really fun. But yeah, so we 219 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: wrote this movie together for Candace Cameron Bray. It's actually 220 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,140 Speaker 1: our third Christmas movie for her. And it's called A 221 00:10:47,260 --> 00:10:52,500 Speaker 1: Second Chance Christmas. And it is very redemptive. It's very, 222 00:10:53,140 --> 00:10:56,620 Speaker 1: it's a drama. Like Taylor and I in these Christmas movies, 223 00:10:56,740 --> 00:10:58,830 Speaker 1: you kind of have like a formula you have to 224 00:10:58,870 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: stick to a little bit with. I mean, everyone knows 225 00:11:01,230 --> 00:11:03,610 Speaker 1: the Hallmark, the Great American Family. At the end of 226 00:11:03,650 --> 00:11:07,530 Speaker 1: a Christmas movie, everything needs to be okay, right? Like 227 00:11:07,550 --> 00:11:10,230 Speaker 1: you want to walk away being like, okay, it's Christmas. 228 00:11:11,210 --> 00:11:13,650 Speaker 1: My heart is warmed and I feel great, you know? 229 00:11:14,340 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: You're never going to walk away in a tragedy in 230 00:11:15,980 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: a Christmas movie. But our goal with these movies are 231 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: always like, okay, if we have this box to stay in, 232 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: how deep of a well can we dig in that box? 233 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,410 Speaker 1: Like how deep can we go? And it's been really 234 00:11:28,490 --> 00:11:31,430 Speaker 1: cool to stretch those muscles and to like push the bounds. 235 00:11:31,870 --> 00:11:34,069 Speaker 1: But I really feel like we found that. Like this one, 236 00:11:34,210 --> 00:11:37,790 Speaker 1: you're going to need some tissues. And it's very moving. 237 00:11:37,850 --> 00:11:39,950 Speaker 1: I watched it last night for the first time. I 238 00:11:40,010 --> 00:11:42,890 Speaker 1: usually get to see my movies before everyone else. But 239 00:11:42,990 --> 00:11:45,430 Speaker 1: I ended up, I hosted like a backyard viewing party 240 00:11:45,450 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: with my friends and put up Christmas lights and had 241 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,179 Speaker 1: candy and popcorn and Coke. And all my friends watched 242 00:11:51,340 --> 00:11:54,070 Speaker 1: it on a projector in the yard and they loved it. 243 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: That is awesome. Yeah. 244 00:11:55,220 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: That is awesome. 245 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: Christmas. 246 00:11:58,020 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: Yes. 247 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: And of course, this is part of the Great American 248 00:11:59,620 --> 00:12:02,670 Speaker 2: Family Christmas lineup that comes out every, I guess it's. 249 00:12:02,710 --> 00:12:03,650 Speaker 2: It's going to be great this year. 250 00:12:03,770 --> 00:12:04,230 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 251 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, for those who are wondering why we're talking about 252 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:09,479 Speaker 2: Christmas movies in October, it's because that's when it starts. 253 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:14,350 Speaker 2: The lineup starts in October, then through November, and then 254 00:12:14,390 --> 00:12:17,030 Speaker 2: I guess it ends around Christmas time. So check that out. 255 00:12:17,050 --> 00:12:17,790 Speaker 2: What's the name of it again? 256 00:12:18,370 --> 00:12:19,750 Speaker 1: A Second Chance Christmas. 257 00:12:19,950 --> 00:12:23,300 Speaker 2: A Second Chance Christmas. Before we close here, you also 258 00:12:23,340 --> 00:12:28,860 Speaker 2: have another talent for farming. Your bio says on your Instagram, 259 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,180 Speaker 2: it says, I tell stories and feed the goats before bed. 260 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: And if you scroll down, you can see images of 261 00:12:35,700 --> 00:12:40,579 Speaker 2: Macy with actual animals. Tell us, is this something your 262 00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: family got you into or something you got interested in 263 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:43,740 Speaker 2: by yourself? 264 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,939 Speaker 1: It's really interesting. My husband and I went from no 265 00:12:48,620 --> 00:12:55,090 Speaker 1: animals to 22 overnight, basically. Like we just, I don't know. 266 00:12:55,130 --> 00:12:56,950 Speaker 1: I think it's part of our personalities. We just really 267 00:12:56,970 --> 00:12:59,069 Speaker 1: go for things and both of us do that. So 268 00:12:59,130 --> 00:13:02,809 Speaker 1: it's like, where's our balance, you know? Yeah. But we 269 00:13:02,830 --> 00:13:08,390 Speaker 1: basically have like seven chickens, five ducks, a pony, a cat, 270 00:13:08,429 --> 00:13:11,370 Speaker 1: a dog. What else do I have? I can't even 271 00:13:11,410 --> 00:13:13,250 Speaker 1: think right now. I have more animals. 272 00:13:13,290 --> 00:13:15,230 Speaker 2: But you have eggs. You have fresh eggs, I guess. 273 00:13:15,250 --> 00:13:17,330 Speaker 1: I have fresh eggs every day, yes. So, I mean, like, 274 00:13:17,450 --> 00:13:20,770 Speaker 1: I mean, I love it. Like, it's chaos. Everything you 275 00:13:20,790 --> 00:13:23,380 Speaker 1: see on Instagram, I mean, not for me because mine 276 00:13:23,420 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: is pretty much chaos. But from other, like, from like 277 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: the pretty pictures of farm life and Pinterest ever, it's 278 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,390 Speaker 1: a lie. It's a lie, everyone. It's chaos, and it 279 00:13:34,470 --> 00:13:37,610 Speaker 1: is easy, and it is hard, and it is wonderful. 280 00:13:38,830 --> 00:13:41,189 Speaker 1: It's just crazy, but I love it. I mean, it 281 00:13:41,210 --> 00:13:44,230 Speaker 1: feels like I travel a lot for work. So it 282 00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:45,990 Speaker 1: just feels like home, like when you come home to 283 00:13:46,010 --> 00:13:49,330 Speaker 1: your animals and they're happy to see you. We don't 284 00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:50,790 Speaker 1: have kids yet, so right now. 285 00:13:50,730 --> 00:13:54,150 Speaker 2: We have 22 animals. They're not impressed with anything you do. 286 00:13:54,190 --> 00:13:55,070 Speaker 2: They want to be fed. 287 00:13:55,270 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: No, they're just screaming. 288 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,390 Speaker 2: They want to take care. 289 00:13:58,670 --> 00:14:01,070 Speaker 1: I just had two baby goats born yesterday. 290 00:14:02,410 --> 00:14:06,609 Speaker 2: What are the goats for? I'm starting to look at 291 00:14:06,650 --> 00:14:07,030 Speaker 2: my farm. 292 00:14:07,530 --> 00:14:09,189 Speaker 1: After a while, you start to look at everybody and 293 00:14:09,210 --> 00:14:12,429 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, what are you contributing here? What rent? 294 00:14:12,550 --> 00:14:15,579 Speaker 1: What rent are you paying? My chickens give me eggs. 295 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,460 Speaker 1: My dog guards me. But the goats, we say they 296 00:14:20,540 --> 00:14:23,940 Speaker 1: landscape because they eat all the grass. So we're just 297 00:14:23,980 --> 00:14:25,250 Speaker 1: going to go with that. Yeah. 298 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,690 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I was going to suggest that. You 299 00:14:28,030 --> 00:14:30,530 Speaker 2: just got to keep them out of the road. You 300 00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:31,550 Speaker 2: got to keep them out of the road, but they 301 00:14:31,570 --> 00:14:35,310 Speaker 2: can take care of your guard. Yeah. And I love 302 00:14:35,330 --> 00:14:37,430 Speaker 2: goats because they'll eat anything. If you're at a zoo 303 00:14:37,450 --> 00:14:39,530 Speaker 2: and you have a zoo map, they'll eat the zoo map. 304 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: Oh, they're crazy. One fun story really quick. One day 305 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: they got out of the fence and accidentally left my 306 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,260 Speaker 1: door open to my house. And my husband had just 307 00:14:49,380 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: built our brand new house. He builds houses. And he 308 00:14:54,070 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: came home And I was gone. And seven goats were 309 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: inside our brand new house. One was standing on the stove, 310 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,180 Speaker 1: had turned the oven on. I kid you not. This 311 00:15:04,260 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: goat could have gone up in flames because I have 312 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,460 Speaker 1: a gas stove. Turn the oven on. One was on 313 00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:13,210 Speaker 1: the couch. And I'm talking like, I mean, they are 314 00:15:13,270 --> 00:15:15,970 Speaker 1: just using the bathroom everywhere. I'll just be proper and 315 00:15:16,010 --> 00:15:19,390 Speaker 1: say that. All over the couch, brand new couch. I mean, 316 00:15:19,470 --> 00:15:22,540 Speaker 1: they're on the kitchen table. And he's just like, You 317 00:15:22,580 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: know that voice where it's like a little scary calm, 318 00:15:24,980 --> 00:15:26,900 Speaker 1: like no one's freaking out, but it's too calm. He 319 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: was like, hi, I need you to get home right now. 320 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:32,170 Speaker 1: He was like, there are goats inside. And I was like, what? 321 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:35,830 Speaker 1: So anyways, he took care of it and we got 322 00:15:35,850 --> 00:15:38,430 Speaker 1: him out. Don't leave your door unlocked if you have goats. 323 00:15:38,890 --> 00:15:40,860 Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness. Maybe the moral of the story is 324 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: don't get goats. 325 00:15:42,380 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: Don't get goats. 326 00:15:43,260 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: Don't get goats. But if you do, keep the doors closed. 327 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: All right. 328 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: We were talking to Macy McLean, who voices one of 329 00:15:49,540 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: the characters in the movie Flywheel, Ignition of the Soul. Macy, 330 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: thanks so much. 331 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 332 00:15:56,260 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: If you enjoyed today's interview, please make sure to subscribe 333 00:15:58,980 --> 00:16:01,340 Speaker 3: and share the episode with a friend. 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