1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Life Audio. Most of us think that hope means that 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the pain goes away. But what if it meant that 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: God shows up and meets us in the middle of 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: the hurt that we're going through. That is what we 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: are talking about in today's episode. Hello, Hello, Hello, ladies 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: and gents, and welcome to this week's episode of The 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Bottom Beloved Podcast. As always, it's a girl Kirby Kelly, 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: and man, it has been a day, a week, a month, 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: a couple of months. As you guys know, if you 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: are watching or if you are listening, I'm pregnant. I 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: am in my third trimester. And not only is my 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: baby coming soon, like literally in a few weeks. I 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: mean she could come literally whenever she wants, which is 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: the craziest part about all this. But in the midst 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: of pushing out a baby, I am pushing out a 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: book as well, which is crazy. You've probably heard me 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: talk about it here and there on the I've also 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: had some really awesome guests on recently, and I'm going 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: to have some incredible guests covering my maternity leave with me, 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: and I'm super excited for all those interviews because literally 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I have some of the like Christian giants, 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: like the Christian Mount Rushmoores, who are coming onto my podcast. 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: And that's gonna be not only a treat for y'all, 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: but it was already a treit for me when I 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: interviewed them. But I'm also pushing out this book, The 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: Fabric of Hope, which comes out on April seventh, and 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: leading up to that, in the what like three weeks 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: four weeks leading up to that, I want to do 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: a series specifically on hope, and I want to use 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: the word hope as an acronym, and we're going to 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: dive through different topics surrounding the idea of hope. And 32 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: today the letter h we are going to be talking 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: about hurt. But before I do that, I just want 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: to let you guys know that you can still pre 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: order the book. And this is why pre order is 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: the best time to buy a book, because most authors, 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: whenever they offer their book for pre order, it can 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: come with all sorts of cool freebies and just different 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: things for you guys, the audience, the readers who are 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: getting it. And this time around I did this with 41 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: You Can Be Free, but this time around for the 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: Fabric of Hope, my freebies include a five set like 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: video teaching devotional series where I'm answering the hard questions, 44 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: like questions such as, why would a good and loving 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: God allow suffering? How can He actually weave purpose into 46 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: the most painful parts of our story? And a couple 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: other of deep theological questions. Y'all know me. I love theology, 48 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: So that's included. There's also a prayer guide like a 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: Bible journaling prayer guide, where you can begin to analyze 50 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: the areas of your own story, whether it's what you're 51 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: going through right now or maybe things you've gone through 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: in the past, of seeing how God can actually step 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: in and begin to redeem the things that maybe you 54 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: thought were unredeemable, the chapters of your life that you 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: were like, m, this is the end of that, and 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: it's like no, God can actually come in and rewrite 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: a better ending. And then you also get to read 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: the first three chapters of the book before you even 59 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: get the book, which is so awesome, so fun. But 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: the good news is you're gonna get the book in 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: like three weeks anyways, ah, which I can't believe it's 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: so soon. So you can go to fabricofhopebook dot Com 63 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: to get the list of all the retailers of who 64 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: is selling the book, and you can get it that way, 65 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: or you could go on to Amazon or Audible if 66 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: you want to hear me read the book and you 67 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: can hear all my little kirbyisms as I pronounce things 68 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: and share my life and my stories. But it's gonna 69 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: be a good time, and I'll link it all down 70 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: below just to make it easier for y'all. But like 71 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: I said, this episode is part one of a special 72 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: four part series that we are doing, the Hope Series, 73 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: and today we are talking about hurt. Over the course 74 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: of this series, we're going to talk about hurt, outlook, purpose, 75 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: and eternity. That is kind of the four part guide 76 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: for you all as we go through this topic. But 77 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: if we're being honest when it comes to hope and hurt, 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: I think this is where we can struggle the most 79 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: in our faith, you know, asking the questions of why, 80 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: why God is this happening to me? Like when life 81 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: feels broken, when prayers go un answered, when grief enters 82 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: the picture, when disappointment begins to rewrite the plans that 83 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: you had for yourself, we can really hurt in those 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: places and even feel hurt by God. So today I'm 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: going to talk about hoping in the middle of the 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: hurt and where God is when life breaks or you 87 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: feel like life is breaking you. So hurt can make 88 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: hope feel impossible. I get that, and we can say 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: the quiet part out loud. Hope feels easy when things 90 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: are going well. It's really easy to hope in the 91 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: promises of God, the plans of God, you know, the good, 92 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: perfect plans that He has for you, like Jeremiah twenty 93 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: nine to eleven says. But when you're hurting, hoping can 94 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: feel like the biggest risks you could ever take. And 95 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: maybe that's because you have hoped for things in the 96 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: past and it didn't feel like what you hoped for 97 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: came through. It didn't feel like God answered the prayers. 98 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: After the loss, after the betrayal, after the sickness, the diagnosis, 99 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, the vulnerable event that you went through. It 100 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: can feel really dangerous and risky to even dare to 101 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: hope again, because hope means that you're believing something good 102 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: might still come, and if you've already been hurt, you 103 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: don't want to be disappointed again. That is why hope 104 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: feels like a risk, So instead of hoping, a lot 105 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: of us turn to coping, where we try to protect 106 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: ourselves by lowering our expectations, by maybe even stopping the 107 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: bold prayers and pursuing God and his will for our life. 108 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: We're just going to try and figure things out for ourselves. 109 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: Maybe you've even said things before, like you know, I 110 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: don't want to get my hopes up. I just want 111 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: to be realistic. I can't go through that thing again. 112 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: God didn't seem to be here when this thing happened, 113 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 1: so why should I trust in him to show up now? 114 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: But here's the truth. Many of us don't stop hoping 115 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: because we lack faith. We stop hoping because we're wounded. 116 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: We've been wounded, we've been hurt. And God's not surprised 117 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: by that reaction either. I think that's a very human reaction, 118 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: especially up to this point in twenty twenty six when 119 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm recording this right, God, being the author and creator 120 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: and having all authority and literally lording over the universe, 121 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: has seen how hurt people just can give up on 122 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: hope real easily. So I don't think that he is 123 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: necessarily surprised by maybe the reactions that you're having towards 124 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: the situation that you've been through or are going through. 125 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: And in my book launch announcement podcast episode, if you 126 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: went back or if you have listened to that or 127 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: watched that, I mentioned Psalm thirty four eighteen, and I 128 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: want to read it again for us today. It says 129 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: the Lord is close to the broken hearted and saves 130 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: those who are crushed in spirit. I love this verse. 131 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: This is a verse that I could spend all day on. 132 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: Let me read it one more time, Psalm thirty four eighteen. 133 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: The Lord is close to the broken hearted and saves 134 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: those who are crushed in spirit. If you are in 135 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: a season today where you've been hurt, you've been wounded, 136 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: you've been disappointed, I want you to hear that God 137 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: wants to step close to you, specifically today, the person 138 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: who has been wounded, crushed in spirit and feels broken hearted. 139 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Not just the Christians who seem to have it all together, 140 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: who have the prettiest Bibles that are highlighted in the 141 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: most pastel highlighters. Not just the Saints who are floating 142 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: through life completely unbothered, going with the flow, like they've 143 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: actually grasped this concept of letting go and letting God. 144 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Not just the people with perfect faith, okay, he takes 145 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: intentional steps towards his people who feel like their spirits 146 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: have been absolutely crushed by life, burdened, weighed down, which 147 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: means hurt is not where God leaves you. Hurt is 148 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: not where God leaves you. It's often where He meets you. 149 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: It's often the place of encounter. And we see that 150 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: time and time again in scripture. And I think based 151 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: on that faithful track record of God, we can hold 152 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: onto that same expectation that He will meet us with 153 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: hope in the middle of our hurt today. Not that 154 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: everything will always be okay and turned out the way 155 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: that we expected or on the timeline that we expected, 156 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: but that God will show up when we lose the job, 157 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: when the relationship ends, when you get the worst phone 158 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: call of your life, like literally been there, when you 159 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: get the diagnosis that you and your whole village prayed 160 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: and fasted against. We can still expect to encounter God 161 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: greatly in the unexpected twists in turns of life, because 162 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: He is the God of hope, and he is the 163 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: God who comes near when we're in the middle of 164 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: the thing that we can so often equate with it 165 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: being void of his absence. So one of the most 166 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: important things scripture teaches us, One of the most important 167 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: things Scripture teaches us is this, I'm speaking way too fast. 168 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: It's that God does not avoid suffering. He enters it. 169 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: Que the picture of the Cross. Okay, we'll get to 170 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: that in a second. But Christianity. Christianity is not just 171 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: this story of a God who's sitting on his throne 172 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: in heaven lording and just like shouting down encouragements to 173 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: his followers down here. No, it's the story of a 174 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: God who stepped down from his throne and became a human, 175 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: was one hundred percent human, was one hundred percent God 176 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: through the son Jesus, and entered into the most painful 177 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: parts of humanity. And he actually relates, He actually allowed 178 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: himself to go through those things. He did not distance 179 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: himself from human suffering. He entered into it, not just 180 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: entered into it in the sense of everyone else was 181 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: going through it and he just you know, saw what 182 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: people were going through and sympathized with them. He is 183 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: the only one who can truly fully empathize with us. 184 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: He had the human experience God did. Says in Isaiah 185 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: fifty three to three describing Jesus, that he is a 186 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: man of sorrows and is acquainted with grief. There are 187 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: some translations that say that he is well acquainted with grief. 188 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: He didn't skip grief. He didn't just omit himself from 189 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: going through sorrow and bypass agony. No, he experienced it. 190 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: God did not limit himself from stepping down from Heaven's 191 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: throne and experiencing the pain that we go through, the 192 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: broken pain of this world, the sinful world. Might I 193 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: add a world where we have deviated through our own disobedience, 194 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: and He stepped into that to redeem it because he 195 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: so greatly loves us. I think that's mind blowing. The 196 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: more and more I think about that, and as I 197 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: was writing the book, it's just mind blowing that a 198 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: perfect God really did all of that to redeem his 199 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: rebellious children. He really did that. John eleven thirty five 200 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: is the shortest verse in the Bible, probably the one 201 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: that we all have memorized. Right, Like, if you've ever 202 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: seen this videos on TikTok or whatever, where it's like 203 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: people going up to random people in a supermarket being 204 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: like I'll give you fifty dollars if you can quote 205 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: a boy. And I feel like everyone is like, Jesus wept, 206 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Jesus wept, But I'm like, can you actually cite where 207 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: that's from. It's from John eleven thirty five. But if 208 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: you know the context of this story, Jesus's friend Lazareuth, 209 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: the brother of Lazarus. Sorry, Jesez, I can't talk today. 210 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: It's not just the pregnancy brain, but his friend Lazarus, 211 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: who was also the brother of Martha and Mary, got sick. 212 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: They sent word to Jesus, hey, come heal our brother 213 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: because we know that you love him. We're all friends. 214 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: And Jesus delays four days and shows up and he's 215 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: been dead. He's been dead and in a grave. And 216 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: Jesus sees this scene. He walks onto the scene and 217 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: he sees Martha, and then Martha goes and fetches Mary, 218 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: and he sees Mary, and specifically with Mary, it's this 219 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: there's this overwhelming grief and disappointment that she is going through, 220 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: and Jesus is compelled not only by her reaction but 221 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: by his own love for his people that he responds 222 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: in weeping. I love that the text says this, because 223 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't say, you know, Jesus explained and he fixed 224 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: it immediately, like that would have been great, right, But 225 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: he took time to grieve and feel the grief with 226 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: his people and actually feel that level of pain. I 227 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: think he grieved the sin of it, of just how 228 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: because we live in a broken and sinful world. Death 229 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: has entered the world and that affects not just the 230 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: person who dies, right, but those who are lamenting and grieving. 231 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: But I think he was also just grieving the fact that, Wow, 232 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: this is the world that we live in and it's 233 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: really hard, and I love these people, and I lost 234 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: a friend in this too, even though he knew that 235 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: he was coming back, right. And then think about this 236 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: the Garden of Gsthemine. Okay, it says this about Jesus 237 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: in Matthew twenty six thirty eight. It says my soul 238 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. That's 239 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: something that we would read in the psalms. Okay, Jesus 240 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: is the fulfillment of prophet, priest and king, So I 241 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: guess that makes sense. Knowing King David wrote a lot 242 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: of these psalms, and he was weeping in the cave 243 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: a all of the time. But here we have Jesus 244 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: in the garden of Gesseemine, where it was the place 245 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: known for the crushing and the pressing of oil. He says, 246 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: my soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. 247 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: When I read this, it shows me that when I'm 248 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: at the point of overwhelm, Jesus understands. When I am 249 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: at the point of deep grief, Jesus understands when I'm 250 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: at this place where I feel completely crushed. Jesus understands. 251 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: He not just understands, like, oh, yeah, I can conceptualize that. No, 252 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: he relates, He empathizes. God doesn't say, Okay, you know, 253 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: come back to me when you're okay and you have 254 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: this whole hope thing figured out and you can trust 255 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: me again. No, he says, come to me while you 256 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: are still hurting, because I get it. I'm the only 257 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: one who can actually empathize and navigate this thing with you, 258 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: this hardship, this difficult season, this great change, this thing 259 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: that you don't yet understand. I can handle it, not 260 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: you me, Jesus Psalm one forty seven three says he 261 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: heals the broken hearted and binds up their wounds. I 262 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: love this because this is very tender language. It's it's 263 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: slow language, it's careful language, it's very intentional. He heals 264 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: the broken hearted, and he binds up their wounds. Healing 265 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: does not come from ignoring pain. I think a lot 266 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: of people are walking around pretending like their pain doesn't 267 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: exist because that is easier than to actually acknowledge it 268 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: and go through the necessary healing that leads to redemption 269 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: and recovery and being able to be completely free from 270 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: what you once went through. Maybe you know someone like 271 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: that in your life. Healing does not come from ignoring pain. 272 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: It comes by tending to it, by pausing and actually 273 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: taking the time to acknowledge and identify all of these 274 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: feelings that you're feeling, not just gaslighting yourself out of 275 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: it or sweeping it under the rug and saying I'm fine. 276 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: God is good, like putting on the God is Good 277 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: band aid where you're literally bleeding out. God gives us 278 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: space to approach him with all of our grief, with 279 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: the full weight of our sorrow, with the immense pain 280 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: that we can no longer carry because we're so burdened. 281 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: He understands it, all the while tending to those open 282 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: wounds that we choose to vulnerably invite him into. That's 283 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: the part that we have to do, is choose to 284 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: let him in, to dare to hope that this God 285 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: who claims he is so good, which he is spoiler alert, 286 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: can actually do some healing where we feel like it 287 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: is irreversible hurt, irreversible damage, unrepairable. Now, maybe because of 288 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: the Christian circles and cultures that you've grown up in, 289 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: you have this misunderstanding that you know, if I were 290 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: a better Christian, this wouldn't hurt so much. I wouldn't 291 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: be going through pain. My life would be easy, everything 292 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: would be perfect. I wouldn't be struggling with my faith 293 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: right now because of what I'm going through. But the 294 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: Bible teaches us that God's people lamented, they questioned, they wept. 295 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: David lamented, Job questioned. Jeremiah wept like literally, he's known 296 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: as the weeping Prophet. Okay, even Jesus cried out, my God, 297 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: why why are you forsaking me? Obviously he was, He 298 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: was quoting, Well, I shouldn't say obviously, because maybe you 299 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: don't know this Jesus was quoting the Psalms, and it's 300 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: a fulfillment of Messianic prophecy. But he cried that out. 301 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: My God, why I've cried that out? And I think 302 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: it's beautiful to see that these heroes of the faith 303 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: that we can often put on a pedestal when it 304 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: comes to seasons and situations of suffering, they showed that 305 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: hurt is not the sign of weak faith or ended faith. 306 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: Hurt is a sign that you are human and you 307 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: live in a broken world. Faith is not pretending pain 308 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: doesn't exists. It's actually choosing to bring your pain to 309 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: God in the presence of everything you're going through. I 310 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 1: think that's the sign of real faith, is choosing to 311 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: be tethered to God in the middle of the storm, 312 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: choosing to be tethered to Him. And that's what I 313 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: think is so beautiful about love meant specifically, I have 314 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: my friend Tanner Olsen on here a while ago, and 315 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: we talked about that, about this whole idea of lament 316 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: but praise. We can often just think of like, oh, 317 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: praise be to God. It's this song that I'm singing 318 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: where I'm connected to God. But lament likewise, is this, 319 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: this deep heart cry out to God, this woeful song. 320 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: Yet the direction is it's still being given to God. 321 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: It's still tethering you to God as much as praise is. 322 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: And that's why lament is not a sign of faithfulness. 323 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: Lament is faithful because it shows that you were refusing 324 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: to walk away. You're still bringing even the pain, even 325 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: the questions, even the doubt to God. Lament echoes God. 326 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't understand, but I'm still here. I'm still choosing 327 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: you God. This hurts, but I'm still gonna talk to you. God. 328 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: I'm disappointed, but I'm not gonna leave until you and 329 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: I figure this out. That's hope in the hurt, not optimism, 330 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: not denial, not gaslighting all of your emotions that you're feeling. 331 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: But it's choosing to still reach out to a relational 332 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: God who empathizes and sympathizes with our brokenness and heals us. 333 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: That's the relational God that we serve. So I want 334 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: to talk about what hope looks like actively in the 335 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: middle of hurt today, what it actually looks like, because 336 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: it's easy to talk about these things and be like, Okay, 337 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: but what does this look like in my life, and 338 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm a practical girlie. It doesn't look like pretending. Let's 339 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: start there. It does not look like pretending or rushing 340 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: the healing process some of us would like to do that. 341 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: And it doesn't look like slapping. Like I said, the 342 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: God is good band aid over an open wound that 343 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: is gushing with all sorts of things that should not 344 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: be leaving the body. You know what I mean. Hope 345 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: looks like letting God sit with you in the ashes. 346 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: Hope looks like letting him bind up what has been broken. 347 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: Hope looks like letting him stay close, letting him stay close, 348 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: not pushing him away. Hope is not the absence of grief. 349 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 1: It is It is God getting into the middle of 350 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: that place. You don't have to understand your suffering in 351 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: order to trust God with it. You don't have to 352 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: feel better to be counted as faithful, and you don't 353 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: have to be healed to be held by him. You 354 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: can be going through these things like there's this coexistence, 355 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: this tension of the goodness of God and the presence 356 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: of God and being hurt and being in a situation 357 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: that is really hard and difficult to navigate. These two 358 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: things can coexist. And I don't know who convinced you otherwise, 359 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: but read your Bible. Because God's people were wandering in 360 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: a desert and he was still feeding them. Okay, God's 361 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: people were being chased by the army of Egypt, and 362 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: yet they were walking through a highway in the middle 363 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: of the Red Sea. Like these two things can be 364 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: true of God's people going through something really difficult and hard, 365 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: unexplainable and unimaginable, and him still showing up and doing 366 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: something really good in the middle of that. Being God. 367 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: God does not stop goding when life starts not being good. 368 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: He is still good, He is still faithful. If anything, 369 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: he promised that we would have trouble in this world, 370 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: and it's specifically our hope should be. And I talk 371 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: about this in my book. Hope should be in God's promises, 372 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: his patterns, his personhood, and his presence, and I dive 373 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: into that. So I'm not going to take up all 374 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: the podcasts talking about that, but this is where I'm 375 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: going to begin to lay in the plane, so to speak. 376 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: Everything we talked about in today's episode, it's in my book. 377 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: And that's actually where the whole book began for me. 378 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: As many of you guys know just with the grief 379 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: of my mom. Like this book the Fabric of Hope, 380 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: how God weaves redemption into every season. It sounds so 381 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: good and it is so good, and it's so true. 382 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: But I was not writing this book from a place 383 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: of just joy, all right. It was not from a 384 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: place of just celebration and easy faith for me. It 385 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: was written from the seasons where I was still fighting 386 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: and choosing to trust God when it would have probably 387 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: made sense to everybody else in the world to abandon him. 388 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: But He never abandoned me. He never did you know, 389 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: when my parents chose to pick up a bottle instead 390 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: of me, When my friends chose to stab knives in 391 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: my back instead of being who I thought they were 392 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: as Christian community, When men decided to ignore my boundaries 393 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: and heap shame on me, and I thought, God, why 394 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: did you allow that to happen to me? When my 395 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: parents died both of them, and I had to navigate 396 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: grief and unresolved complex relationships because of their addiction, then 397 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: is gracious? I didn't write the Fabric of a Hope 398 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: just from the other side of pain, where it's like 399 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: everything is flowers and rainbows over here. Now there are 400 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: flowers and rainbows, but there are still rain clouds in 401 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: certain areas of my life where it just shows up 402 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: again and it's like, here's another sable cloud. But these 403 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: sable clouds always are covered with silver linings of God's 404 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: goodness of even when it rains, flowers bloom and rainbows 405 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: come after. The beautiful things that we post on Instagram 406 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: often come out of these really hard places, you know 407 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like these these is that really test 408 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: and try our faith. Hope meets us in the middle 409 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: of our hurt, and it's not just a result after 410 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: it is something we get to experience in the middle 411 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: of it. So that is who this book is written for. 412 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: I wrote it for the person who believes in God 413 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: but is just tired of their circumstance. For the person 414 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: who wants hope but is deeply afraid to hope again 415 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: because the things you hoped for last season did not 416 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: come to fruition. I wrote this book for the person 417 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: who's walking through something that they never planned and now 418 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: it's like, this is my life. These are the responsibilities 419 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: I have. This is the direction that I have to 420 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: walk now in order to survive This book isn't about 421 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: avoiding suffering. It's about finding God inside it and how 422 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: He redeems all things for good. And it's in the 423 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: middle of the hurt that we can begin holding on 424 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: too hope. So I want to leave you with this, 425 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: because this is a series that I'm doing and I'm 426 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: going to build off of this. But if you're hurting 427 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: right now, you are not forgotten. The main takeaway Jesus 428 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: stepped down from heaven and came and suffered and empathizes 429 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: with us in our suffering, meets us in our suffering, 430 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: with hope and with healing in the middle of it. 431 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: Even those chapters of your life that you closed and 432 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: have decided nothing good could come from that, maybe God 433 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: wants to usher you into reopening that so that He 434 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: can begin restitching and do a new work there. Do 435 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: something good there where you thought no good could ever 436 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: come from it, healing, redemption, restoration, even maybe I don't know, 437 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: but you have not been abandoned. Just because you have 438 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: real questions and you have real grief doesn't mean that 439 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: you are a faithless Christian. And you are exactly in 440 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: the place where God can draw near. Today he draws 441 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: near to the broken hearted and the Chustian spirit. Hope 442 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that your pain or your problems will disappear 443 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: by tomorrow. I mean, I pray it does in Jesus's name, 444 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: but it means that He hasn't disappeared from your story. 445 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: He hasn't left you. And next week I'm going to 446 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: be talking about the next letter of this series, which 447 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: is oh. You know if we're spelling out the word hope, oh, 448 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: and that stands for outlook, And we're going to talk 449 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: about what to do when God's plan doesn't look anything 450 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: like yours. And we're gonna build on this. So if 451 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: you enjoyed this episode and you're not subscribed, subscribe, follow 452 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: because we're gonna build on this. And if you want 453 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: to dive even deeper into this topic, like you your 454 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: small group, your church, maybe you have a friend that 455 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: really needs hope in their life, and not just hope 456 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: like I hope things get better, but real biblical confident 457 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: hope that will endure in every season and storm. I 458 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: want to encourage you to get the book again. It's 459 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: called The Fabric of Hope. You can go to Fabric 460 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: off hoopebook dot com and you can order your copy today, 461 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: pre order it and get all your freebies as well. 462 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this before April seventh, if you're 463 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: listening after, hey, you can still get the book. But 464 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm really championing this message because I 465 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: have lived it and I am still living it as 466 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: a girl who is becoming a mom while grieving her 467 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: own mom. Still, especially in this season of life, I've 468 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: been able to see a whole new level of God's 469 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: goodness in the middle of the grief. I've been able 470 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: to hope and hold on to hope in the middle 471 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: of new hurts that I anticipated and that I didn't 472 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: anticipate as well. And He's been with me through it all. 473 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: He has been faithful. And if that's true for me, 474 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: if it's been true for all of time as we 475 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: read scripture, and you're the testimonies of other believers, why 476 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: would you doubt that he would do the same for you. 477 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: He is just that good and it is just that true. 478 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: He is the God of hope. And I hope that 479 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: this episode encouraged you. 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