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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer, and this is Josh Hammer Show. Brendan Kark,

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Speaker 1: chairman of the SEC, joins us later in the show

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Speaker 1: to unpack some of his recent controversies, real or manufacturing

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the equal time rule and broadcast television.

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Speaker 1: But for now, we of course lead with this. On

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Speaker 1: yesterday's show, we said that Donald Trump had to do

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Speaker 1: a few things at his State of the Union address.

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Speaker 1: This his first official State of the Union, a dress

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Speaker 1: of his second presidential term. We said that he would

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Speaker 1: have to paint a stark contrast to solidify in the

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Speaker 1: minds of the American people this image of this stark

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Speaker 1: dichotomy between the party and the movement of reason, rationality,

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Speaker 1: and civilizational sanity on the one hand, that being the

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Speaker 1: MAGA movement and the Republican Party, and on the other hand,

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Speaker 1: a movement of anti Americanism and civilizational arson, that being

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and the left wing propagandists that these

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Speaker 1: days comprise it. That was the first thing that we

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Speaker 1: said Donald Trump had to do. The second thing that

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Speaker 1: we said that he had to do was that he

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Speaker 1: had to emphasize that while things are getting better, while

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Speaker 1: situation is getting better, out there there remains some work

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Speaker 1: to be done. We call for him to exhibit and exude,

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Speaker 1: indeed some level of empathy with the American people, those

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Speaker 1: that he had to do was to be overtly and

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Speaker 1: unapologetically patriotic, to bring out the best of the American

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Speaker 1: people and the best of the American spirits in this

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Speaker 1: the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary year of the signing

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Monday morning quarterbacking, I am happy

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Speaker 1: to report to you that on my personal report card,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump hit somewhere between a home run and a

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Speaker 1: Grand Slam home run. He hit it out of the

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Speaker 1: park when it came to buckets one, which is painting

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Speaker 1: this star contrast with his Democratic opposition, and bucket three

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Speaker 1: when it came to raw raw, red, white and blue,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to empathy with the American people who

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Speaker 1: were still struggling out there, trying to tamp down this notion,

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Speaker 1: this gas lighting from the corporate media that Donald Trump's

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Speaker 1: work the middle class people out there. He did very well.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps maybe you could quibble what he could have done

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Speaker 1: slightly more of there, But for Donald Trump, that was

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Speaker 1: actually very very good. When it came to trying to

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Speaker 1: exhibit empathy with the American people, he actually was perhaps

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Speaker 1: at times uncharacteristically, you might say, even restraint. Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: did not pick any fights, for instance, with the Supreme

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Speaker 1: with the just says, only four of whom actually were there.

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Speaker 1: That was a little interesting. Only four of the nine

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Speaker 1: but four of them were there. They were sitting right

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Speaker 1: Three of the four who were sitting there ruled against

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Speaker 1: him in the big tariff's case last Friday, and Donald

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Speaker 1: decision which ruled against his see tariffs. He's just said

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Speaker 1: that it was disappointing and unfortunate. But he didn't really

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Speaker 1: we're just going to talk to you about what we

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Speaker 1: heard and saw in the speech last night. What we

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Speaker 1: and who were remarkably overshadowed and were really just put

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about also where we go from here in

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Speaker 1: the march up to the November midterms. So I believe

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Speaker 1: the very first thing to know before even getting to

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Speaker 1: some of the more details of speech is again just

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Speaker 1: emphasizing the overtly unapologetically patriotic nature of this speech. Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump both beginning and ending and ending this speech with

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Speaker 1: just boosterism, you might call it. They're trying to convey

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Speaker 1: unmitigated confidence in the American people, quoting the Declaration, citing

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Speaker 3: Is back, Members of Congress and my fellow Americas.

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Speaker 4: Our nation is back, bigger, better, richer, and stronger than

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Speaker 1: One of my personal favorite moments was when he then

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Speaker 1: There these guys are now heroes of the Republic. They

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Speaker 4: Here with us tonight is a group of winners who

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Speaker 3: The men's gold medal Olympic.

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Speaker 4: Hockey team, come on and but they beat a fantastic

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Speaker 4: As did the American women who will soon be coming

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Speaker 1: So you see Don Trump clearly enjoying the moment. That's

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Speaker 1: what You've been one of my favorite elements of this

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Speaker 1: room after the game, there clearly enjoying himself. Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: growing up in Queens and New York City. There, he

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Speaker 1: just loves sports, sees an athletic competition as we do

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Speaker 1: American spirit. He was clearly enjoying himself there. It was

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Speaker 1: just a really, really beautiful moment. So this this theme

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Speaker 1: times get overshadowed by the cops, by the police officers

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Speaker 1: In fact, there were some very very emotional moments speaking

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Speaker 1: terrible shooting by Joe Biden's Afghan quote unquote refugee the

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Speaker 1: night before Thanksgiving, a Thanksgiving Eve mini massacre in the

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Speaker 1: memory serves. And last night Donald Trump called out the

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Speaker 1: parents of the slain West Virginia National guardswoman Sarah Bestrom.

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Speaker 1: This is a really touching standing ovation. Go ahead and

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Speaker 1: watch this.

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Speaker 3: With God's help, Andrew has battled back from the edge

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Speaker 3: of death, and we're talking about the edge of death

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Speaker 3: on his way to a miraculous recovery. He's got a

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Speaker 3: little work to do, but he's doing great. Nice to see.

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Speaker 3: He's a good looking guy. Nice to see you. Thanks Andrew,

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Speaker 2: So Andrew Wild, you're up.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm going to ask a highly respected General James

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Speaker 3: Seward to present staff Sergeant Andrew Wolf and the great

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Speaker 3: family of Sarah Beckstrom with the award created by our

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Speaker 3: late great President George Washington himself. It's called the Purple Heart.

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Speaker 1: All right, So it's standing ovation for the parents of

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Speaker 1: is still alive. That'sby having been a critical endition Andrew

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Speaker 1: Wolf also from that tragic day the day before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: So the speech just just utterly filled with these moments.

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Speaker 1: And the Democrats were not necessarily there for all these moments.

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Speaker 1: That is one of the other obvious things that must

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Speaker 1: the rest of Team USA. They were not necessarily there

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Speaker 1: at various other very very key moments. One of the

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Speaker 1: real emotional parts of the evening was when Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: also had a standing ovation for the parents, the parents

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Speaker 1: of Irina Zarutzka, the Ukrainian refugee who was tragically, tragically

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Speaker 1: Whence he came? Who murdered Zarutzka? There last year on

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Speaker 1: the light rail in Charlotte, North Carolina. Guess who did

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Speaker 1: not stand for this one? The Democrats unbelievable. Go ahead

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Speaker 3: What's going on with Charlo? Last summer, twenty three year

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Speaker 3: old Irena was riding home on the train when a

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Speaker 3: Viciously slashed a knife through her neck and body.

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Speaker 2: No one will ever forget.

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Speaker 3: There were people on that train. No one will ever

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Speaker 3: Missus Zaretska tonight, I promise you we will ensure justice

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Speaker 3: for your magnificent daughter, Irena. How do you not stand?

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Speaker 4: How do you not stand? I'm asking this Congress to

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Speaker 4: pass tough legislation to ensure that violent and dangerous repeat

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Speaker 1: How do you not stand? You see there that these

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Speaker 1: did Democrats not stand in that situation? Who is advising them?

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Speaker 1: What malice in the heart? What callousness in the heart?

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Speaker 1: You can see the anti Americanism dripping out of their bloodstreams.

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Speaker 1: Last night, Donald Trump won Democrats zero, very little doubt

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Speaker 1: Really, whoever is advising the Democrats on not standing up

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Speaker 1: for the parents of a slain refugee? What Democrats are

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Speaker 1: square the circle for me, just utterly contemptible, frankly frankly

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Speaker 1: Vage a second, but for now, just a quick word

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Speaker 1: from response with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.

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Speaker 1: Israel's a hot topic right now, and with so many

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Speaker 1: know where to start. The Bible tells us, I will

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Speaker 1: bless those who bless you. That isn't just a comforting promise,

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Speaker 1: It's a clear calling from God, and today, with anti

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Speaker 1: cases and you're not standing for citizens over the legal aliens. Look,

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Speaker 1: we don't particularly like the current iteration of the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Party on this show. We certainly acknowledge when Democrats land

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Speaker 1: a punch or two, and just to prove how fair

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Speaker 1: we are, and to give my fair bona fidez, I

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Speaker 1: think that a spamber actually did land at least one

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Speaker 1: punch in her otherwise fairly Milktoe's response to say of

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Speaker 1: the Union, that one punch being where she correctly called

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Speaker 1: out the administrations seeming corruption when it comes to some

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Speaker 1: things like these foreign dealings with Kattar, the Boeing seven

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Speaker 1: thirty seven plane, some of these, shall we say, less

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Speaker 1: than fully kosher crypto deals that are going on there.

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Speaker 1: So we're very fair, and we give the Democrats credits

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Speaker 1: on the very rare occasions when they actually call a

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Speaker 1: spade a space. But overall, if we are looking as

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Speaker 1: objectively as possible, this evening was a success for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: There was a C and M poll I saw that

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Speaker 1: showed overwhelming approval for Donald trump speech somewhere between sixty

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Speaker 1: five and seventy percent, potentially in some poles as high

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Speaker 1: as seventy five percents had a favorable opinion the speech there.

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Speaker 1: The tempo was sound, the emphasis was sound. There a

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Speaker 1: lot of bipartisan stuff, standing against crime, standing for a

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Speaker 1: sound economy, standing for a strong America, standing for the red,

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Speaker 1: white and blue, for the decoration, independence for the Olympic

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Speaker 1: men's hockey heroes.

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Speaker 2: This popular stuff.

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Speaker 1: The task now is to translate this into meaningful political

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Speaker 1: inroads and wins in a campaign year, in a midterm

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Speaker 1: election year. That is the task ahead. It's easier said

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Speaker 1: than done. The Democrats certainly gave Republican campaign hands and

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Speaker 1: officials plenty of fodder, plenty of material to work with.

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Speaker 1: As I said earlier in the show, you can just

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Speaker 1: take that one clip of DEM's not standing not standing up,

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Speaker 1: and Trump calls for standing ovation for citizens over illegal aliens.

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Speaker 1: Take that one clip blast, then make that the centerpiece

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Speaker 1: of the campaign, while continuing to show further empathy with

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Speaker 1: the people when it comes to the economic situation. There

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Speaker 1: By the way I under discussed part of the speech there,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump finally finally unveiling something resembling a Republican healthcare plan.

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Speaker 1: There were not super granular details. Is a speech obviously,

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Speaker 1: it's not a policy brief there, but the White House

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Speaker 1: tweeting out what looks like a pretty decent one page

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Speaker 1: or a starting place there for a healthcare policy. So

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Speaker 1: lots and lots of good stuff came from this speech there. Again,

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Speaker 1: these speeches only go so far. We won't be talking

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Speaker 1: about it a week from now. But if nothing else,

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Speaker 1: they should give Republicans a real shot in the arm,

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Speaker 1: a real show on the arm when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the march towards November. And there's just so much material

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Speaker 1: folks to get pay on there and ultimately I guess

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Speaker 1: we will see where it goes now. Earlier in the show,

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Speaker 1: we during this clip of when we played Irena Zerutzka's parents,

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Speaker 1: these grieving parents from their child, their daughter who was

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Speaker 1: really slain in the Charlotte light rail last year, he

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Speaker 1: saw standing next to them someone who unfortunately knows quite

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Speaker 1: a bit about suffering. You saw Erica Kirk herself, Erica Kirk,

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Speaker 1: someone who is a widow, someone whose late husband who

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Speaker 1: was a friend of mine, Charlie Kirk, was tragically assassined

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Speaker 1: last September, just a few days after Agena Zrutska lost

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Speaker 1: her life as well, and in fact there was deliberate symbolism.

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Speaker 1: You might say to Erica Kirk standing there next to

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Speaker 1: the parents of Irena Zerutska now today on Wednesday, February

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Speaker 1: twenty fifth, there is a certain demonic individual, someone who

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Speaker 1: is living proof that there is evil that exists in

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Speaker 1: this world, that there is evil, proof that there are

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Speaker 1: Satanic forces, that Satan, the Satan himself is at work

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Speaker 1: in the world, an individual one by the name of

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Speaker 1: Candice Owens, who is beginning an investigative series, you might

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Speaker 1: call it, that seemingly has the intent of alleging that

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Speaker 1: Erica Kirk herself has complicity in the assassination of her husband,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. Now, if this sounds familiar to you, and

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Speaker 1: it probably should, that's because I myself have found myself

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Speaker 1: in this demon's crosshairs on very very similar charges. Words

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Speaker 1: really struggle to come to mind, frankly, when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the level of depravity and the level of evil

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Speaker 1: that it takes to oppress a grieving widow. I can't

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Speaker 1: do a whole lot better than God himself. God himself,

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Speaker 1: as it turns out, as some pretty strong words on

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Speaker 1: this particular subject. In fact, it actually was in the

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Speaker 1: Torah portion that we choose just read and synagogue about

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Speaker 1: a week and a half ago. It's in Exodus chapter

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Speaker 1: twenty two. I read to you Exodus chapter twenty two,

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Speaker 1: verses twenty one to twenty three. You shall not oppress

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Speaker 1: any widow or orphan. If you oppress him, beware, for

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Speaker 1: if he cries out to me, I will surely hear

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Speaker 1: his cry. My wrath will be kindled, and I will

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Speaker 1: slay you with the sword, and your wives will be

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Speaker 1: widows and your children orphans. So that's some pretty heavy

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Speaker 1: stuff that God is vowing to do when it comes

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Speaker 1: to those who oppress widows. We believe in scripture on

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Speaker 1: this show. We believe in the word of the Lord,

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Speaker 1: and we believe that this demonic individual, Candiceans who included

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Speaker 1: a screen grab of me, oh Joy, a screen grab

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Speaker 1: of yours truly in her quote unquote trailer for this

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Speaker 1: new quote unquote Investiade series, we believe that she will

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Speaker 1: get her just comeuppance in due time. So, for that matter,

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Speaker 1: will Tucker Carlson, So for that matter, will all of

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Speaker 1: these wretched scoundrels who are trying to bring down the

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Speaker 1: American rights and by extension, America itself with them. The

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Speaker 1: rollant question is not whether they will get their own

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Speaker 1: come uppets, whether they will succeed in bringing down the

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Speaker 1: American right with them and the owners ultimately falls on us,

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Speaker 1: as they're fellow Americans, as their fellow media content creators

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Speaker 1: and consumers, to say, no way are we going to

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Speaker 1: allow you to do that there, and for Taye's purposes,

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Speaker 1: that means standing unequivocally with Erica Kirk and against the

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Speaker 1: demonic satanic individual that is Candicellones. Folks, stay with us

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Speaker 1: the way quick mercier break On the other side, Brendan Carr,

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Speaker 1: chairman of the FCC, joins us. Stay with us for

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Speaker 1: Brendan Carr, welcome back. So we have a special guest

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Speaker 1: for you today. We spent most of the City Show

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Speaker 1: talking about the state of the Union Dress last night

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Speaker 1: and all of the analysis there, and we have a

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Speaker 1: very special one to come on to talk about that

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Speaker 1: and much much more, and that is Brendan Carr. Brendan

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Speaker 1: Carr is the Chairman of the SEC, the Federal Communications Commission,

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Speaker 1: and he is doing a bang up job. If I'd

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Speaker 1: say to myself. In fact, I was telling some friends

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Speaker 1: over the past few weeks that there is really no

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Speaker 1: more unsung under the radar hero of this second Trudministration

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Speaker 1: than Brendan Carr, and he joins us now on the

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Speaker 1: Josh Hammer Show. So, Commissioner car if I may thank

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Speaker 1: you very much for joining us. We really do appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into some of your more jurisdictional

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Speaker 1: parochial controversies here in just a second. But before we do,

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Speaker 1: as I said, we spent most of the shows started

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Speaker 1: talking about the state of Union dress last night. Any

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Speaker 1: kind of higher level thoughts or observations about what you

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Speaker 1: saw from the president's last night, and frankly also perhaps

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Speaker 1: what you saw from his partisan opposition to Democrats.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I think President Trump is just absolutely killed.

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Speaker 6: He's had a banger of our first year. He's delivering

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Speaker 6: results across the economy, across national security, across immigration issues.

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Speaker 7: He's doing such a great job. And we're bringing prices down.

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Speaker 6: Even here at the FCC, we're seeing prices for cell

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Speaker 6: phone services dropping seven to eight percent.

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Speaker 7: Service prices are down dramatically over Biden era high.

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Speaker 6: So I think we've never seen any in our lifetime,

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Speaker 6: Like President Trump, I think we'll never see something like

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Speaker 6: that again.

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Speaker 7: But it was a monumentally, you know, great performance by him.

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Speaker 1: Brendan Carr is the chairman of the SEC. Can follow

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Speaker 1: him on x at Brendan Carr FCC. Okay, Chairman car.

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Speaker 1: So you have been in the limelight, perhaps more than

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Speaker 1: some of your predecessors. In fact, you've probably been of

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Speaker 1: one of the more one of the more day to

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Speaker 1: day headlines savvy, shall we say, FCC chairman in recent memory,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of folks seem to be picking fights

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Speaker 1: with you. And this is unsurprising for anyone who knows

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Speaker 1: the politic because some of the folks that we're talking

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Speaker 1: about here, people like Jimmy Kimmel, people like Stephen Colbert

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Speaker 1: was the most recent person there to seemingly pick a

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Speaker 1: fight with you and your agency. A lot of these

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Speaker 1: fights when it comes to the late night quote unquote

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Speaker 1: comics and the broadcast networks, seemed to entail what is

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Speaker 1: known as the equal time role. And we've spent some

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Speaker 1: time on the show in the past talking about the

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Speaker 1: equal time role and how it wasn't always enforced, and

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Speaker 1: how you're simply enforcing the law. Can you just kind

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Speaker 1: of back up a little bit and give us some

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Speaker 1: of the greater legal contexts here for some of these

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Speaker 1: quote unquote controversies that you found yourself embroiled in when

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Speaker 1: it comes to these late night show hosts.

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Speaker 6: Well, look here at the FCC, I try to, you know,

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Speaker 6: stay below the radar, just tend to our knitting going

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Speaker 6: through the sec rule book. But yeah, I know it's

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Speaker 6: been a pretty interesting run over the last year here

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Speaker 6: at the agency.

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Speaker 7: I've been here since twenty twelve.

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Speaker 6: I've been General Counsel of the FCC, so I really

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Speaker 6: know how the place operates, and we're just getting a

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Speaker 6: ton of great work product done. With the American people

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Speaker 6: on the broadcast side. In particular, there's this rule that's

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Speaker 6: been on the books. It's actually a statute that goes

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Speaker 6: back many many decades, including it was revised by Congress

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Speaker 6: in the nineteen fifties called the equal time rule. Different

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Speaker 6: than the fairness doctrine, and we can talk about how

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Speaker 6: they're different, but the equal time rule means that if

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Speaker 6: you're going to have a legally qualified candidate on broadcast TV,

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Speaker 6: that you have to give comparable time and placement to

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Speaker 6: all other legally qualified candidate, and so a couple points there. One,

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Speaker 6: Broadcast TV is fundamentally different than any other form of

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Speaker 6: distributing programming, whether it's streaming a podcast, a cable channel,

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Speaker 6: a soapbox. Broadcast TV is the one of all of

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Speaker 6: those that's licensed by the FCC, which means you have

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Speaker 6: a public interest obligation in certain requirements you have to follow.

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Speaker 6: If you don't like following those, then there's other ways

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Speaker 6: to get your message out there, including through cable channels.

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Speaker 6: But the whole point of equal time was that Congress

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Speaker 6: did not want media gatekeepers deciding the outcomes of elections.

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Speaker 6: They want to empower the actual voters to do it. Now,

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Speaker 6: the nineteen fifties, they created an exception, it's equal time

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Speaker 6: for things called bonafide news programs, and at the time

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Speaker 6: Congress had in mind things like Meet the Press and

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Speaker 6: other sort of hard hitting, real journalistic programs. But over

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Speaker 6: the years, the FCC and to some extent, the broadcast

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Speaker 6: TV networks themselves over read or misread the bonified news

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Speaker 6: exception and effectively had it swallowed the rule. And so

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Speaker 6: I think the equal time rule and their view doesn't

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Speaker 6: apply to anything anymore.

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Speaker 7: And we've simply reminded people that's not what the law says.

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Speaker 6: If you are not bonified news, then you need to

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Speaker 6: give legally qualified candidates comparable time. It came up most recently, obviously,

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Speaker 6: with Tallerico going on The Colbert Show, and frankly, this

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Speaker 6: was really a story of the mainstream media just continuing

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Speaker 6: to run with various forms of hoaxes. I woke up

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Speaker 6: on that Tuesday morning and there was a tweet saying

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Speaker 6: that the FCC had refused to air an interview.

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Speaker 7: Of course, we don't do that. We had nothing to

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Speaker 7: do with that airing or not.

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Speaker 6: And then the hoax shifted and said, well, it wasn't

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Speaker 6: the FCC, but it was CBS that refused to air it.

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Speaker 6: And CBS came out and said no, actually we told

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Speaker 6: them they could do it, they just might have to

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Speaker 6: comply with the equal requirements. And so it really was

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Speaker 6: ultimately a story of another hoax being run by legacy media.

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Speaker 7: But what was so interesting about this one.

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Speaker 6: It was all in service of benefiting one Democrat candidate

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Speaker 6: over another Democrat candidate. This had nothing to do with Republicans.

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Speaker 6: This was purely Democrat on Democrat violence. And so I

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Speaker 6: was very entertained watching that whole thing play.

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Speaker 1: Out right, and memory serves, the leading beneficiary of your

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Speaker 1: enforcement of this provision here was none other than Jasmine Crockett.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that was one of kind the kind

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Speaker 1: of the most humorous elements of this entire story, if

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, Chairman car There was also some jinda

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Speaker 1: of controversy involving the ladies of the View as well,

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Speaker 1: so you've definitely found yourself in the headlines here with

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Speaker 1: some of the leading liberal propagandists.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the View was an interesting case as well.

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Speaker 6: So the View, which is program by Disney, is asserting

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Speaker 6: the position that the View is a bona fide news

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Speaker 6: program and therefore exempt from equal time.

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Speaker 7: And they also had Tallarrica on.

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Speaker 6: Apparently the Democrat establishment has decided to go all in

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Speaker 6: for Tall Rico because you know, a state representative running

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Speaker 6: in a Democrat primary in Texas is obviously national news

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Speaker 6: and should be on the View and on all these

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Speaker 6: late night shows purely for the news quality of it,

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Speaker 6: not for other reasons apparently. But the View in Disney

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Speaker 6: are taking the position that that program is bonified news,

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Speaker 6: and our position is they have not established that it is,

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Speaker 6: and so we're running an enforcement action right now to

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Speaker 6: try to get to the bottom of this.

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Speaker 7: We've asked them, if you want, go ahead and file

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Speaker 7: a petition. This is what shows us to do.

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Speaker 6: File petition with the FCC, make the case that your

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Speaker 6: bonafid news and we'll go from there. And part of that, though,

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Speaker 6: is the test of the SEC established over the years,

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Speaker 6: is are you motivated by partisan political motivations or not?

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Speaker 6: And so that's part of what the view would have

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Speaker 6: to establish to qualify for being bonified news.

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Speaker 1: Brendan Carr is the chairman of the SEC. Follow him

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Speaker 1: on x at Brendan Carr FCC. So, Chairman, is it

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Speaker 1: your position that your predecessors just didn't really enforce this

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Speaker 1: rule or were there are fewer either real or manufacturing

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Speaker 1: controversy that arose during their tenures as chairman? Why is

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Speaker 1: this rule, which as you correctly know, goes back a

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Speaker 1: very long time, why is it now getting back into

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Speaker 1: the national media attention.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I do a theory on this. Look.

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Speaker 6: I think the FCC got a lot of things right

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Speaker 6: on media regulation policy in the fifties, the sixties, the seventies,

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Speaker 6: and even into the early eighties, and then something changed

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Speaker 6: and the FCC sort of adopted this fundamentalist libertarian approach

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Speaker 6: of well, broadcast is competing with cable and competing with

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Speaker 6: later the Internet, and so we shouldn't apply unique broadcast

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Speaker 6: laws anymore. I sort of get that at some level.

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Speaker 6: But the answer that should be for people to go

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Speaker 6: to Congress to change the law. The SEC shouldn't be

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Speaker 6: the one to decide that these broadcast statutes passed by

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Speaker 6: Congress don't apply anymore. So we're reinvigorating the SEC's approach

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Speaker 6: to broadcasters. The public interest standard, and my north star

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Speaker 6: here is actually pretty clear. So when you look at

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Speaker 6: broadcast TV, think of it as two main buckets of actors.

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Speaker 6: You have the local TV stations that are licensed by

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Speaker 6: the FCC on the one hand, and the other the

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Speaker 6: national programmers.

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Speaker 7: So Disney comcasts those entities.

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Speaker 6: Now, in the last twenty to thirty years, the power

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Speaker 6: has shifted dramatically to the national programmers comcast in Disney,

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Speaker 6: and the actual local TV stations are effectively just mouthpieces

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Speaker 6: for programming being created in New York and Hollywood. That's

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Speaker 6: not how the system is supposed to work. We want

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Speaker 6: strong local broadcast TV stations that will push back, that

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Speaker 6: will preempt that will run content that's actually serving the

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Speaker 6: needs of their licensed communities.

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Speaker 7: We're trying to get back to that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a very good thing to get back to.

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Speaker 1: And Chairman car just a few seconds left here, but

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Speaker 1: before I let you go, we're coming up here this

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Speaker 1: fall on midterm elections. That was a big focus of

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Speaker 1: the state of Union last night and anything specifically that's

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Speaker 1: on your radar as the chairman of agency there in

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Speaker 1: watching you c what are you focused on in this

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Speaker 1: midterm election year.

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Speaker 6: Well, we're operating sort of, you know, parallel to that

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Speaker 6: dynamic without sort of taking into account per se.

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Speaker 7: But we got the hammer down.

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Speaker 6: We're a year in, we've got a lot of good

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Speaker 6: results and you can either start coasting or letting go,

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Speaker 6: and we're doing the opposite of that. We're trying to find,

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Speaker 6: you know, a fourth gear and a fifth gear at

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Speaker 6: the FCC, so it's going to be continuing to get

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Speaker 6: more spectrum out there for your phone, which is going

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Speaker 6: to drive down pricing. We're doing permitting reform which are

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Speaker 6: going to accelerate Internet build. We're boosting the US space economy,

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Speaker 6: so we get these thousands of new low worth orbit

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Speaker 6: satellites that are going to really change connectivity. So we're

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Speaker 6: on the CUSP and they're actually seeing some really good

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Speaker 6: changes for the country and we're just going to keep

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Speaker 6: pushing hard on that. Well.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Wishing you all the best again one full time, folks.

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Speaker 1: Brendan Carr is the chairman of the SEC. Follow him

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Speaker 1: on x AT. Brendan Carr FC, one of the unsung

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Speaker 1: heroes of this second Trump administration.

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Speaker 2: Chairman.

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Speaker 1: Keep up the great work there. We really appreciate joining

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Speaker 1: Joshamer Show, so say thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it you bet. Folks there you have.

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Speaker 1: At Brendan Carr, one of the great unsung heroes of

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Speaker 1: this administration and administration as you heard from the President

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Speaker 1: last night, kicking button thus far. Hope you enjoyed the

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Speaker 1: stay of the Indress. Hope you enjoyed Say's episode of

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Speaker 1: The Josh Hammer Show. Wishing you a wonderful rest of

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Speaker 1: your evening. Josh Hammer signing off for now. We will

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Speaker 1: be right back with a new episode tomorrow.

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