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Speaker 1: New York Times best selling author, and on this podcast

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Speaker 1: he brings deep research, prescient analysis at world class guests.

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Speaker 1: He's Alex Marlowe and this is the Alex marlow Show.

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Speaker 2: All right, super cool podcast for you. Today we got

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Speaker 2: two great guests. We got my friend John conn who

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Speaker 2: is the CEO of Bryport News, and he get a

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Speaker 2: new song out called After It Burns. It is part

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Speaker 2: I think a personal reflection. It is part of political

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Speaker 2: protest against the establishment in California. But he lost his

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Speaker 2: home in the Palisades fire, where it is some of

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Speaker 2: the most previoum real estate on planet Earth. And he

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Speaker 2: and a song he wrote. He's a Nashville singer songwriter

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Speaker 2: as well. He wrote the song Fighter. You might have

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Speaker 2: heard that number won the Billboard charts about President Trump.

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Speaker 2: And this is his new song. It's fantastic. You'll get

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Speaker 2: chills listening to it. And I think he points to

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Speaker 2: the finger at the exact right. People ask him who

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Speaker 2: he blames for the catastrophic loss that he faced, but

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Speaker 2: it's also hopeful. It's about him bouncing back and what

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Speaker 2: we could all do for those of us who face

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Speaker 2: extreme adversity, which we all do if we get a

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Speaker 2: But that's a pretty devastating one, losing your home because

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Speaker 3: So we talk all about that.

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Speaker 2: We also get into we do a deep Venezuela dive

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Speaker 2: with Franklin Camargo, who works at Prager You and he's

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Speaker 2: I love what he had to say. I just tape

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Speaker 2: to like his explanation of what happened and how big

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Speaker 3: This dawns on me in the show.

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Speaker 2: During the show, it dawned on me that Karak is

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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. I can't believe I haven't thought

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Speaker 2: But just to show you anyone who's doubting the significance

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Speaker 2: it's really great to reconnect with Franklin Camargo who works

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting in Dennis Prager's old chair right now as

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Speaker 2: We're partners with them at Bright part We love Prager You,

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Speaker 2: and Franklin is their resident Venezuela expert. Franklin, You've been

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Speaker 2: how you ended up at Praguer You from Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for having me. It's so important to

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Speaker 4: his regime accused me of terrorism. Why because I spoke

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Speaker 4: Look, I couldn't believe it. I was actually first sleeping

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Speaker 4: Yes, and no, a single American. And it was a

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Speaker 4: very precise operation, and we captured not a president, we

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm actually so happy for everything that happened.

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Speaker 2: seems absolutely not a total drug lord, wants to be

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of work to be done. What's happening now,

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Speaker 4: Well, first is that the REGIPI is still there, but

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Speaker 4: I think the region has never been this week for

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Speaker 4: multiple reasons. First, they witnessed how Maduro was captured in

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Speaker 4: I'm talking of course about the trum administration that is

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Speaker 4: not willing to compromise. They're just gonna tell Dlci Giosdado,

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Speaker 4: or you're gonna pay a higher price than the one

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Speaker 4: actually challenging him to go to Venezuela and capture him. Well,

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Speaker 4: Maduro did it, and I don't think Delci Rodriguez is

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Speaker 3: Do I trust her?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't trust her. As you said, she comes

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Speaker 5: So we're talking.

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Speaker 4: About horror, terrible radical leftist that we shouldn't trust. But

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Speaker 4: I do trust the Trump administration and have good news

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Speaker 4: for you. Actually, a friend of mine who I met

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Speaker 4: About the logistic of the operation and Madura at the end.

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Speaker 2: And that's that is I think Rubio's correct that that

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Speaker 4: Look when Marco Rubio and Donald Trump just hours after

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to be pragmatic. Look, I met mari

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Speaker 4: But madriea Kournama child, well probably she can be a

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Speaker 2: So one of the things that I do in the

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Speaker 3: To have to pay fair market rate for that.

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Speaker 2: But basically this is just stems from the Belton Road

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Speaker 4: No, I totally agree with you. You know, when we talk

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Speaker 4: taking over the resources. No, you don't want that. And

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Speaker 4: we also need to ask ourselves because leftists love to

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Speaker 4: that is amazing. That's what free trade is about. That's

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Speaker 2: Franklin, it's really interesting. Prompted me to look something up.

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Speaker 2: Caracas is closer to Miami than Los Angeles, no thing about.

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Speaker 3: I've never thought about this until just now. I wish

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Speaker 2: So that that's the case, and so of course that

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Speaker 2: I know you got to run Franklin, but Prigger, you

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Speaker 3: But what do you want to happen next?

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Speaker 2: And I like to use word pragmatic because we had

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Speaker 4: Well, first, what the United States and the United States

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Speaker 4: So one US companies to invest in Venezuela and oil.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you it's insane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So of.

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Speaker 2: Course, Franklin, I know you got around good stuff. Franklin Camargo.

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Speaker 2: Check out all this stuff on in social media. And Prigger,

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Speaker 2: you always make sure you guys donate. It's a free

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Speaker 2: I'll talk to you next time.

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Speaker 3: One of the most interesting people I know is a

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Speaker 2: He's a champion tennis player, a Hollywood screenwriter and director,

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Speaker 2: This is just some of the most cherry real estate

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Speaker 2: we could play this cut of after Burns in Joe,

435
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Speaker 2: so let's.

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Speaker 5: Still you want it more.

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Speaker 4: Now?

438
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Speaker 3: There ain't nothing much less to say.

439
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Speaker 6: I know now I was the only one in my

440
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Speaker 6: own way and somehow from the will so I can

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Speaker 6: find will.

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00:21:49,040 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 7: Surelycis broken matches. Nothing least should have least called mans now.

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Speaker 3: It's way clears, guys.

444
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Speaker 5: You can see from months I have to.

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Speaker 2: Refers incredible stuff. I got chills already just for a

446
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Speaker 2: minute of it. John, Welcome to the Marlow Show. Talk

447
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Speaker 2: to me about a year after the fires took your

448
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Speaker 2: home but really took so much more from the city

449
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Speaker 2: that I've called home most of my life and you

450
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Speaker 2: called home as well for decades. What's going on over

451
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Speaker 2: the last year. What's gone on for you on a

452
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Speaker 2: personal level. Then let's go big picture, but tell me

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Speaker 2: about your life.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, it's it's a pretty devastating thing to

455
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Speaker 8: go through. You know, us being in the news business,

456
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 8: you know, you're we're always looking at stories and going

457
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 8: it's happening to other people, Yes, And to be actually

458
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 8: part of a story like that, you know, it feels

459
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Speaker 8: different for sure.

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Speaker 4: You know.

461
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Speaker 8: I I think there are a lot of lessons you

462
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 8: can learn from something like this. The first four or

463
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 8: five months were just brutal. You're walking around in a trance,

464
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 8: you can't understand it, and then slowly and hopefully the song,

465
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 8: you know, speaks to that you kind of get up,

466
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 8: you know, as conservatives, we get knocked down, we get

467
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 8: back up and we look for what's next. And this song,

468
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Speaker 8: I think when I finally wrote it, because it was

469
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Speaker 8: very difficult to write music after this.

470
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Speaker 5: For months, I didn't pick the guitar, I didn't play

471
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Speaker 5: the piano, and.

472
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Speaker 8: I finally sat down, and I think I was trying

473
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Speaker 8: to convince myself and deal with how I was feeling,

474
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Speaker 8: which is always how I deal with hardship is through music,

475
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 8: you know, to convince myself that there is a there

476
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Speaker 8: are bluer skies here, and you know, I was thinking

477
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Speaker 8: about it, you know that image. I mean, I'm not

478
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Speaker 8: comparing this to nine to eleven by any stretch, but

479
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Speaker 8: I remember there was a there was a cover of

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Speaker 8: the New York Post, I think it was after nine

481
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Speaker 8: to eleven, and it was the New York skyline with

482
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Speaker 8: no twin towers, and it was perfectly blue skies and

483
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Speaker 8: it said now what.

484
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Speaker 5: And I never forgot that image because.

485
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Speaker 8: It was almost like it didn't happen, and LA was

486
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Speaker 8: very much like that. After the fires were put out,

487
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 8: it was beautiful again, but it.

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Speaker 5: Was all gone. My hometown was gone, and it's that

489
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 5: same feeling like now what.

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Speaker 8: And you know, for me personally, you know, I think

491
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Speaker 8: everybody's got to look at something like this through their

492
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Speaker 8: own lens.

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Speaker 5: For me, I never thought I would say this.

494
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Speaker 8: I think this is going to turn out to be

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Speaker 8: a blessing because, as you know, Alex, I was tinkering

496
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 8: around with moving to Nashville for years and I just

497
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Speaker 8: couldn't pull the trigger. I grew up in the Palisades,

498
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Speaker 8: I went to high school there, I bought my first

499
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Speaker 8: and holy house there, and for years I was talking about,

500
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Speaker 8: you know, you know, trying to move there, and I

501
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 8: couldn't do it. And you know, I don't think I've

502
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Speaker 8: told this story publicly. My most recent excuse before all

503
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 8: this was if I'm going to move to Nashville because

504
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 8: all the songwriters are so great and they're professional and

505
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 8: they do it every single day. I need a hit song.

506
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 8: I gotta have a hit song or I can't move there.

507
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 8: I mean, it's completely irrational. But then I wrote Fighter,

508
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 8: which topped the Billboard chart for digital sales, and I

509
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 8: got my hit song, and like two months later, my

510
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 8: house burned down and it was like God saying, God saying, like,

511
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Speaker 8: what other excuses do you have?

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Speaker 2: And you know there's something in this song. It's haunting,

513
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: but it's also very helpful. I think the line that

514
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: people have been latching onto is sometimes things need to

515
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Speaker 2: burn to understand where you need to be.

516
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Speaker 3: It feels like that's what you're talking about. Give me more.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, well it's I never thought.

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Speaker 8: Look, there are a lot of people struggling in the

519
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 8: Palisades that are trying to rebuild I personally, in my life,

520
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 8: I have landed in Nashville, and I've realized that this

521
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Speaker 8: is where I was supposed to have been for a

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Speaker 8: long time, and sadly I needed a fire as a

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Speaker 8: catalyst to move here.

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Speaker 5: But it's.

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Speaker 8: I don't think I'm going back, and I'm happy here

526
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 8: and it's a totally different chapter in my life. So

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Speaker 8: for me, had it not burned down, had I not

528
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 8: lost everything, I wouldn't be embarking on this exciting chapter

529
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Speaker 8: in my life.

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Speaker 5: And I love it here.

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Speaker 8: But for a lot of people, for most people in

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Speaker 8: the Palisades, given what's going on politically there, with the

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Speaker 8: permitting and the insurance and the lack of development, they're struggling,

534
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Speaker 8: and it's really difficult. And that's why I said you

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Speaker 8: have to look at it through your own lens. For me,

536
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Speaker 8: I feel like I'm going to come out looking at

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Speaker 8: this as a blessing despite all the things I'm still

538
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Speaker 8: dealing with back home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not worthy.

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Speaker 2: It's hard for me to resist, just from my frame

541
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Speaker 2: of mind to resist some of the political where the

542
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Speaker 2: EPA and Lee Zelden and Rick Rannell and the federal

543
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 2: government came in, it seemed at the cleanup went pretty quick,

544
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: pretty efficient, and the rebuilding, needless to say, is gone,

545
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: is not existent ones back in their homes at all.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's almost no buildings that have been built.

547
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Speaker 2: You could have seen this coming, I certainly did, But

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Speaker 2: yet it feels like, exactly year to the day later,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like anyone's going to be held to account.

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Speaker 8: Well no, I mean, I mean, I think you know,

551
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 8: we've all been around leaders. I think we both try

552
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 8: to be leaders. And one thing I've thought about is

553
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 8: that leaders make you feel safe. They make you feel like,

554
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 8: no matter what happens, things are going to be okay.

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Speaker 8: And I think you'd be hard pressed to find one

556
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Speaker 8: single citizen of the Palisades or even Alta Dina that

557
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 8: believes that Karen Bass and Gavin Newsen have their backs

558
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 8: and what's happened afterward with the insurance companies. People don't

559
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 8: have all their money. So if you don't have all

560
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 8: your money, you don't know when that's coming, how much

561
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 8: you're going to get.

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Speaker 5: How are you supposed to plan your lives?

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Speaker 8: From what I read recently, there's only four hundred and

564
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Speaker 8: seventeen houses being built out of almost seven thousand. Karen

565
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 8: Bass said, I think yesterday in an interview, so we

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Speaker 8: should all be feeling really really good about this. That

567
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 8: that she said she's not going to rest until the

568
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 8: Palisades is back in one piece.

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Speaker 2: Now that being said, she said, he's not going to

570
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: rest until they find the real kill.

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Speaker 5: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 8: She's she's not going to get a lot of shut

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Speaker 8: out for at least five years.

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Speaker 5: If that's light, you know, But it's where has Gavin

575
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 5: Newsom been? Where has Karen basted? All she did was pivot.

576
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 8: She pivoted as soon as ice was an issue in

577
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 8: La She you know, she was licking her lips because

578
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 8: that was a perfect issue for her to pivot and.

579
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Speaker 5: Ignore the fires.

580
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Speaker 8: Gavin Newsom, I will tell you as a resonant, watching

581
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Speaker 8: his Twitter stream or his press team tweet and troll

582
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 8: Trump was so infuriating as a resident when nobody knows

583
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 8: what they can build, when they're going to get their insurance,

584
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 8: if their town will ever be the same, And to

585
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 8: watch that kind of lead ship was so upsetting.

586
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 5: And he's doing it today.

587
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 8: His press offense, press offers or Caress office twitter stream

588
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 8: is trolling Trump on the one year anniversary of people

589
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 8: losing everything. And this is somebody who wants to lead

590
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Speaker 8: the country. Where has he been? Where's Karen investment? Where

591
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 8: where have the Democrat senator's been? It's taken Ron Johnson

592
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 8: from Wisconsin and Senator Rick Scott from Florida to start

593
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 8: an investigation and Congressman Jim Jordan House Judiciary to investigate

594
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 8: the fire aid fraud of one hundred million, which nobody

595
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 8: saw a dime of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got us.

597
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: Him's press office was was making a homophobic slur against

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Speaker 2: a against Benny Johnson, who is has a wife and

599
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: four kids, and they were using making home some sort

600
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: of homophobic slur against him, implying stuff, and that's what

601
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: they're doing this week.

602
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: And so John lay it out for me. Do we

603
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: know where the fire started?

604
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: And could Bath and use them if they've been competent,

605
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: remember cam Bath than Africa at the time, could they.

606
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 5: Have stopped in I think they could have.

607
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 8: I think that the policies that led up to it,

608
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 8: I think they were protecting some you know, interesting plant.

609
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Speaker 5: I don't know what it is.

610
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Speaker 8: I don't think anybody could name it, even a botanist,

611
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 8: but it's uh, you know there. The fire started January

612
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 8: first from an alleged arsonist and people were called to

613
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Speaker 8: put it out, and they didn't put it out properly.

614
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Speaker 8: And with this giant wind event coming, they didn't have

615
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 8: any fire engines in place to spotters to in case

616
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Speaker 8: it flared up. They didn't put it out properly. Like

617
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 8: I said, State officials were in fact there to survey it.

618
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Speaker 8: But there are apparently rules about where you can put

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Speaker 8: out a fire and how you can do it given

620
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Speaker 8: the foliage in that area, which I think is why

621
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Speaker 8: it wasn't put out properly.

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Speaker 5: And there was no water in the reservoirs.

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00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 8: Firefighters didn't have any water, and you know Rick Caruso

624
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 8: knew the fire event was coming or that wind event

625
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 8: was coming, and protected the entire center of the Palisades,

626
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 8: but it skipped over that because the winds and burned

627
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 8: everything else besides that. And so yes, I think it

628
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 8: was definitely preventable. And I think what they've done afterwards

629
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Speaker 8: is appalling, and I think it's I think it's sort

630
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 8: of when you add all the pieces together, it seems

631
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 8: like a mission to collectively break the will of.

632
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 5: The people so that they give up.

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Speaker 8: And I certainly do know a lot of people who

634
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 8: can't figure out how to rebuild, don't have enough money,

635
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 8: and they're just being you know, left to hang out

636
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Speaker 8: to dry.

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Speaker 3: Completely.

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Speaker 2: I rageous, John, I'm glad you're on your feet. You're

639
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: our CEO Breitbart. You do incredible work for us. You're

640
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: writing songs and singing them in Nashville. This is a

641
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: song for all of the victims, not just of this loss,

642
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: but for any loss. I think they'll speak to you

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Speaker 2: after it burns. You get an YouTube Apple everywhere pretty much, right, John.

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00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 5: That's right, so on all the streamers.

645
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 8: You can find it on my Instagram or ex accounts,

646
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 8: and there are links on there where you can download

647
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 8: it on your streaming platform with choice thirty seconds.

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00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: Give me what you hope this song accomplishes.

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00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: Well.

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00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 8: I hope the song brings comfort to the people the

651
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 8: Palisades and the fires. I've heard from a lot of

652
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 8: people in the Palisades that it's being spread and being

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00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 8: sent to everybody, which really does my heart good. My

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Speaker 8: neighbors are talking about it, et cetera. But more broadly

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Speaker 8: than that, I think it's a song for anybody who's

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Speaker 8: gone through a lot of loss in their life, catastrophic loss, death, illness.

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Speaker 8: It's something that human beings encounter every single day. And

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Speaker 8: if it brings comfort to those people, that I consider

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Speaker 8: an artistic success.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I woke up today and I

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Speaker 2: felt a deep sadness on the anniversary of watching some

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Speaker 2: of my hometown burn. It was so insecure, was so dark, John,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being here, and thank you for right

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Speaker 2: and after it burns, I'm Alex Marlow and be right back.

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Speaker 7: Through the ashes, broken matches, nothing lest the should have

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Speaker 7: lasted holding matters.

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Speaker 3: Now it's weary turned.

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Speaker 7: Clear skies. You can see from miles after revers