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Speaker 4: So I'm very curious about this, I really am. Bill

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Speaker 4: the one that we ought to hear from before anybody else.

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Speaker 4: This from the New York Times, facing contempt threat Clinton's

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Speaker 4: refuse to testify in the Epstein inquiry. Bill and Hillary

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Speaker 4: escalating a month's long battle with the Republican leadership James

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Speaker 4: I mean, you had a guy yesterday hectoring President Trump

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Speaker 4: I keep hearing this criticism of Trump. Seems to me

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Speaker 4: the guy that's in the grotto down there at Epstein Island,

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Speaker 4: don't you.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely agree.

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Speaker 2: As you said, I all right, let's hear it. Come on, No, Like,

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Speaker 2: if we're going to be consistent and this is.

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Speaker 4: Something we're just going to keep talking about and talking

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Speaker 4: not satisfied, then I should hope that everybody's foot is

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Speaker 4: I don't care what decade like never, somehow we're in

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Speaker 4: the mumu silking shirts with what is that exactly? Why

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Speaker 4: is he giving matching outfits with Jeffrey Epstein down there?

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Speaker 2: Is that a little weird ed? Like if you know,

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Speaker 2: we're pretty good friends.

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Speaker 4: But now and colleagues, if I had you to the

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Speaker 4: I bet you go home. That's what the Clintons, you know,

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Speaker 4: they're in matching outfits and soaking in the bobbing around

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Speaker 2: He's the guy.

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Speaker 4: So okay, Democrats, I want you to use your passion

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Speaker 4: for this story. First and foremost for your former president

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Speaker 4: been the until Cackle Bridges was the torch bearer for

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Speaker 2: Let's bring them up.

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Speaker 4: Every person has to decide when they have seen or

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Speaker 4: It's principles at its ban's people, no matter the consequences.

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Speaker 4: The Clintons, in a lengthy letter to mister Calemy, excuse

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Speaker 4: me Komer for us. Now is that time mister Comer's

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Speaker 4: relentless effort to force them to testify reflects his overall

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Speaker 4: approach to his panel's Epstein inquiry. He has sought to

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Speaker 4: deflect focus from Donald Trump's ties to the convicted sex

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Speaker 4: offender and his administration's decision to close its investigation and

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Speaker 4: to shift the spotlight onto prominent Democrats who wants associated.

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Speaker 2: What does it matter?

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Speaker 4: What does party matter?

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Speaker 2: Because isn't it about the victims?

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Speaker 4: I thought, this is about the victims. Why are we

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Speaker 4: the young women who were assaulted. Why do we care

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Speaker 4: about party? Let's just call everyone to account and get

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Speaker 4: justice wherever it's found, because that's what we care about,

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right? Yes, we only care.

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Speaker 4: This proves Yeah, this proofs beyond the shadow of a doubt.

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Speaker 4: They don't give a rats ass about justice for the victims.

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Speaker 4: They hope in some way, just like they hope Michigan

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Speaker 4: or Minnesota woman, whatever her name is, this Renee Good.

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Speaker 4: They hope that she will become the new Maryland Man

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Speaker 4: They just so desperately need something else to talk about,

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Speaker 4: large that is trying, without saying, to make Renee Good

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Speaker 2: They know that's a bridge too far. But if they

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Speaker 4: There and say she was a lesbian and thus targeted,

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Speaker 4: so they'd have something else to talk about besides Epstein.

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Speaker 4: But they can't quite But if you noticed that very specifically,

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Speaker 4: like I thought it interesting, twenty four hours after Renee

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Speaker 4: Colbert Show but Rachel Maddow. And it's like that's on purpose.

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Speaker 4: You know, there are any number of people you could

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Speaker 4: she's the she's the clarion call, she's the alarm for

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Speaker 4: lesbian America, and she's she's the bat light. Have you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've.

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Speaker 2: I just happened to notice that.

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Speaker 4: The militant left wing lesbian woman is the most animated

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Speaker 4: about Renee Good.

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Speaker 2: White don't forget white, by the.

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Speaker 6: Way, absolutely, And I don't think you know rom Manual's

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Speaker 6: you know famous line, don't never let a crisis go

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Speaker 6: to waste, Like that's that's in play here. The Democrats

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Speaker 6: haven't wasted this opportunity. And I don't I don't want

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Speaker 6: to talk about someone's life like this, but that's what

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Speaker 6: it is to them, is an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Of course it is.

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Speaker 6: And you're right, like this goes back to that meme

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Speaker 6: the woman screaming at the Trump inauguration back in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this they have to have a distraction. It's a distraction.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen on social media what's

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Speaker 4: even commenting on it because it's low hanging fruit. It's bait.

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Speaker 4: It's distraction bait. The rose garden decor ed. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you have an opinion, doesn't really matter to

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Speaker 2: What your opinion of it is.

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Speaker 4: President Trump's apparently put up some signage, some letters on

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Speaker 4: the portico that say the rose garden. It's sort of

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Speaker 4: What is a woman talking about cisgender and girl assigned

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Speaker 4: at birth?

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Speaker 2: Language.

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Speaker 4: That's got to be a bummer. Don't you imagine like

440
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Speaker 4: this is your big break and this is who you

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Speaker 4: get this lady who doesn't know what a woman is.

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Speaker 6: It's it's painful, but at the same time he might

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Speaker 6: be part of history in that he can get this woman,

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Speaker 6: this Supreme Court justice, to twist herself in knots and

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Speaker 6: still not to be able to explain what a woman is.

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Speaker 4: And that's for all to hear. I want everyone to

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Speaker 4: just consider this language. And I think every now and

448
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Speaker 4: again it's important that we stop and talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Language matters, words matter. And when you hear Supreme Court

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Speaker 4: Justice say girl assigned at birth, everyone should hit pause

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Speaker 4: and ruminate on that for a minute. That is Orwellian,

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Speaker 4: that's new speak, that is not real. That is a

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Speaker 4: fit people. I have no time for that. I will

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Speaker 4: call it out anytime I hear it. I will never, ever,

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Speaker 4: until my dying day and my last breath, I will

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Speaker 4: never tolerate in my presence without challenge people who say

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Speaker 4: girl assigned at birth or anything assigned at birth. No

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Speaker 4: one is assigned anything at birth except what they are

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Speaker 4: biologically made to be stitched in their mother's womb.

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Speaker 2: From a woman.

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Speaker 4: Women give birth, women give birth to biological beings who

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Speaker 4: are male or female, and there is no changing it.

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Speaker 4: There is no designation. Doctors do not assign it. It

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Speaker 4: is not a play call like the head coach of

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Speaker 4: a football team. That's done when they come out of

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Speaker 4: the mother, a woman's womb. This is not malleable, and

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Speaker 4: anybody who talks about it like it's malleable or assignable

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Speaker 4: is straight from the pit of hell.

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Speaker 2: That's all. I want to be really clear about that.

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Speaker 4: Just in case you're new to the show and you're

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Speaker 4: not clear with this host, I am always going to

472
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Speaker 4: die on this hill and be obnoxious to make the point.

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Speaker 4: I will not tolerate without challenge on this show people

474
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Speaker 4: who say things like girl assigned at birth or cis gender.

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Speaker 4: Those are made up words. It's a total fiction. And

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Speaker 4: you know it's a fiction because when it's actually put

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Speaker 4: in real arguments before thinking people, it all falls apart.

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Speaker 4: Samuel Alito yesterday challenging this acl You, Lady Kathleen Heartnet

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Speaker 4: the attorney here, listen to this twisted pretzel logic about

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Speaker 4: what is a man and what is a woman? This

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Speaker 4: ACLU attorney, this Kathleen Hartnett, who I presumes a woman

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Speaker 4: or was she assigned woman once her name was assigned

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Speaker 4: Kathleen or I don't know how it works with them

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Speaker 4: in their minds, but she doesn't know. Alito, this is

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Speaker 4: not a This is like a god any folks, I

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Speaker 4: didn't need heavy law training to go before the Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court and answer this one by the brilliant Justice Alito,

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Speaker 4: here we go, number forty nine.

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Speaker 10: If it does that, then is it not necessary for

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Speaker 10: there to be for equal protection purposes? If that is

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Speaker 10: challenged under the equal protection clause, an understanding of what

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Speaker 10: it means.

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Speaker 2: To be a boy or a girl or a man

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Speaker 2: oral woman?

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Speaker 10: Yes, suretter, And what is that definition for equal protection purposes?

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Speaker 10: What does what does it mean to be a boy

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Speaker 10: or a girl, or a man.

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Speaker 8: Or a woman?

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Speaker 11: Sorry, I have to centers to your question. I think

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Speaker 11: that the underlying enactment, whatever it was, the policy, the law,

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Speaker 11: the would have we'd have to have an understanding of

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Speaker 11: how the state or the government was just understanding that

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Speaker 11: term to figure out whether or not someone was excluded.

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Speaker 11: We do not have a definition for the court, and

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Speaker 11: we don't take issue with the We're not disputing the

506
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Speaker 11: definition here. What we're saying is that the way it

507
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Speaker 11: applies in practice is to exclude birth sex males categorically

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Speaker 11: from women's teams, and that there's a subset of those

509
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Speaker 11: birth sex males where it doesn't make sense to do

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Speaker 11: so according to the state's own interest.

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Speaker 10: Well, how can a court determine whether there's a discrimination

512
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Speaker 10: on the basis of sex without knowing what sex means

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Speaker 10: for equal protection purposes?

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Speaker 11: I think here we just know that we basically know

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Speaker 11: that they've identified pursu into their own statute. Lindsay qualifies

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Speaker 11: as a birth sex male, and she's being excluded categorically

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Speaker 11: from the women's teams as the statute. So we're taking

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Speaker 11: the statue's definitions as we find them, and we don't

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Speaker 11: dispute them.

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Speaker 4: You can hear the wavering, the quivering of the tortured

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Speaker 4: logic in this woman's voice. Identified pursuant to their own statute,

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Speaker 4: subset of birth sex male.

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Speaker 2: All those words, ed, those are all words.

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Speaker 4: They're great at finding words in the English language to

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Speaker 4: string together to try to sound official. Identified pursuant to

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Speaker 4: their own statute, A subset of birth sex male. Those

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Speaker 4: are a whole lot of words to say, you got

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Speaker 4: me justice, Alito. If they can't define what a male

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Speaker 4: or a female is, then how can there be discrimination?

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Speaker 4: That was the simple question. If you can't define what

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Speaker 4: a man or a woman is, how can you say

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Speaker 4: you're being discriminated against?

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Speaker 2: Oh, pursue words.

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Speaker 4: Words, gobbledygook. They don't even believe what they're saying. In

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Speaker 4: other words, ed, they really don't.

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Speaker 2: That's it's a fiction.

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Speaker 6: I listened to this clip over and over again because

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Speaker 6: I was trying. I couldn't follow, and it got so

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Speaker 6: bad last night.

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Speaker 2: On purpose.

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Speaker 6: I got so bad last night my wife called him

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Speaker 6: from the other room.

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Speaker 2: Can you stop playing that? I'm just got I just

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't make sense of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's on purpose. One more number fifty Alito

546
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Speaker 4: talking about what if a boy just shows up and

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Speaker 4: says I want to be a girl, and he's done

548
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Speaker 4: nothing about it other than just declare himself a girl

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Speaker 4: on any given day, take a list those of.

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Speaker 10: This school that has a boys let's say, track team

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Speaker 10: and a girls track team.

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Speaker 2: At the school has that and a student who.

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Speaker 10: Has the genes and the reproductive system of a male

554
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Speaker 10: and had those at birth and has never taken puberty blockers,

555
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Speaker 10: never taken female hormones, never had any gender altering or

556
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Speaker 10: affirming surgery, says nevertheless, I.

557
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Speaker 2: Am a woman.

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Speaker 10: That's who I am. Can the school say no, you

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Speaker 10: cannot participate on the girls team?

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Speaker 11: Sorry, So you're just a birth sex male who has

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Speaker 11: all the advantages of.

562
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Speaker 2: Sex male hormones.

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Speaker 11: And can the school bar him on the woman's team?

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Speaker 2: Yes, they can, but that person is that person yet

565
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Speaker 2: not a woman?

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Speaker 4: And right there that he just blew a hole right

567
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Speaker 4: in the argument of the stupid argument that was never

568
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Speaker 4: an argument to begin with. So a guy who's done

569
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Speaker 4: nothing about being anything but a guy his entire life

570
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Speaker 4: shows up and wants to compete against the women and

571
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Speaker 4: call himself a girl on that day? Can the school

572
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Speaker 4: disqualify him? And she says, well yeah, sure, he goes Okay,

573
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Speaker 4: then you don't know what you're talking about. Get out

574
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Speaker 4: of here, and her nervous quivering birth sex pursuant to

575
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Speaker 4: statute subset A, this is straight from the pit of

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Speaker 4: hell stuff, and thank god the Supreme Court is going

577
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Speaker 4: to call it out.

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Speaker 2: We even have camera station in Iceland.

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Speaker 8: Ay like that.

580
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Speaker 4: Well, the budget for this show continues to expand they really,

581
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Speaker 4: the Salem media people really invested in us this year.

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Speaker 4: They you know, lest you think all the construction which

583
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Speaker 4: we were talking about, people have been very intrigued with

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Speaker 4: the construction that I was mentioning in our control room

585
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Speaker 4: and our facilities in DC. You know, they're building this

586
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Speaker 4: whole new monument, shrine and temple for the Scott Jennings

587
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Speaker 4: show that's moving in there. But don't think for a

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Speaker 4: second the Stigall Show has been left out. No, We've

589
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Speaker 4: been given a budget for cameras to be placed all

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Speaker 4: over the globe. We have them stationed even in Iceland

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Speaker 4: just for no particular reason, just pointed at an ice flow.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 4: If you're watching the Salem News Channel, you can see

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Speaker 4: where these are stationed all over the country. If you're

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Speaker 4: listening on great radio stations, we're not in Iceland yet,

596
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Speaker 4: but we're trying. You can watch us on the Salem

597
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Speaker 4: News Channel app. You can listen on our podcast or

598
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Speaker 4: listen live on hundreds of stations all over the country.

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Speaker 4: Glad to have you along. Our telephone numbers eight five

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Speaker 4: to five. Stigall got a new edition of the harm

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Speaker 4: Society coming out today. If you're not a harm forer yet,

602
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Speaker 4: today would be a very good day to join the conversation.

603
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Speaker 4: Harumfers love hanging out with one another, getting to know

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Speaker 4: one another. I'm considering a harumf party in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: I must say I have not done that yet. The

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Speaker 4: Rum Society is still pretty new, but it's grown to

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Speaker 4: such a degree and people are asking me, now, Hey,

608
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Speaker 4: I want to meet some of these people in person.

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Speaker 4: We just got to make sure all the legal PaperWorks

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Speaker 4: signed off on. I can't be held responsible if somebody

611
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Speaker 4: ends up turning to be a mouth breathe or something.

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Speaker 4: You know, Eddie, that's always a risk when you cobble

613
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Speaker 4: people together meeting under those auspices. You just don't know.

614
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Speaker 4: One nut can ruin it for everybody. I don't think

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Speaker 4: that's what's going on at the Harum Society.

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Speaker 2: But you don't know. You don't know what I'm saying. No,

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Speaker 2: I know what you mean.

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Speaker 6: But I think in America two fifty Harump party would

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Speaker 6: be cool.

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Speaker 4: Hannity got in trouble years ago because he had that

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Speaker 4: date line, the Hannity date line or something, and that's

622
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Speaker 4: just a recipe for disaster, because you know, you get

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Speaker 4: a single guy and a single guy listening to this show,

624
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Speaker 4: and you'd think, oh, well, they're a match. But you

625
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Speaker 4: can't know if somebody's not keeping stuff in their basement

626
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Speaker 4: that they shouldn't be.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can't know. That sounds like a horrible idea.

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Speaker 6: A date line sounds that sounds like a really, really

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Speaker 6: bad idea.

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Speaker 4: It's one thing to just call people together as an

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Speaker 4: audience of listeners, but it's quite another to say you

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Speaker 4: and you, I think you'd be a fit. Let's meet

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Speaker 4: together in a private place and see how that works out.

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Speaker 4: I don't that's just got litigation written all over it,

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Speaker 4: don't you think it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll steer clear of that one.

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Speaker 6: I think you always ask me to tell you when

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Speaker 6: ideas or you know, things on the show.

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Speaker 2: She like, you gotta be honest with me about this.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest about this one. No dateline.

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Speaker 4: President Trump telling Iranian protesters that help is on the

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Speaker 4: way yesterday. This came up during a press conference discussing

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Speaker 4: Iran and the protesters. They say now some twelve thousand

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Speaker 4: protesters are estimated to have been murdered by the Iranian

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Speaker 4: regime in these protests that are bubbling up throughout the country.

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Speaker 4: Here's some of President Trump addressing this yesterday and clip

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Speaker 4: forty seven.

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Speaker 1: What do you say to.

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Speaker 12: US service commers about why it's worth the rest?

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Speaker 13: Meaning on iron said that the last time I blow

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Speaker 13: them up with the nuclear capability, which they don't have

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Speaker 13: any longer, so Iran said that the last time they better.

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Speaker 2: Behave This from the Jerusalem Post.

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Speaker 4: Over twelve thousand people have been killed during the protest

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Speaker 4: in Iran, largely over the course of Thursday and Friday nights.

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Speaker 4: These figures are unconfirmed estimates by the outlet. One source

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Speaker 4: within Iran told CBS the death toll could be as

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Speaker 4: It always looks pretty. Every shot on the Salem News

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Speaker 4: channel looks pretty from a distance. It kind of depends

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Speaker 4: on which part. Minneapolis is a lovely city. I've been

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Speaker 4: there many times. I love Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: It's you know.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for listening on The Patriot by the Way in

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Speaker 4: like it all over the country. Welcome into this Wednesday

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Speaker 4: edition of The Stigall Show. It is always a thrill

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Speaker 4: to speak with leadership in Capitol Hill, particularly from Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: no less the majority whip of the United States Congress.

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Speaker 4: He's become a great friend of the show. Actually, we

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Speaker 4: look forward to tapping into his wisdom, particularly about his

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Speaker 4: own home state that is now the focus of so

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Speaker 4: much news these days. Minnesota's Tom Emmer of the sixth

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Speaker 4: Congressional District Congressman, good morning.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Chris, Good to be with TIOVO. Not a

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Speaker 14: great topic. I just am glad that people like you

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Speaker 14: are paying attention to this.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for saying so. I know it's not a

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Speaker 2: great topic.

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Speaker 4: It is a great state full of wonderful, patriotic, hardworking people.

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Speaker 4: And as is the case with most states, we're mindful

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Speaker 4: our urban cores, our big cities, do not define our states.

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Speaker 4: You know, certainly I found that to be true in

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Speaker 4: Pennsylvania and Missouri, where I come from and have spent

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Speaker 4: so much time. Kansas City, Saint Louis, Philadelphia don't define

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Speaker 4: Missourians and Pennsylvanians. I know Minneapolis does not speak for

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Speaker 4: all Minnesotans. But the fact of the matter is, I

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Speaker 4: think a lot of US congressmen are stunned that, first

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Speaker 4: of all, let's talk about the amount of fraud that's

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Speaker 4: going on up there, because I think this recent shooting

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Speaker 4: in this ice situation, quite frankly, is meant to distract

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Speaker 4: us from the real and the huge story. While the

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Speaker 4: shooting a tragic thing and we'll talk about it, the

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Speaker 4: fraud for all taxpayers should matter a lot and we

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Speaker 4: should continue to focus on it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I totally agree.

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Speaker 14: Look, Minnesota, if your listeners are interested, they can go

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Speaker 14: to the Minnesota Secretary of State website and they can

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Speaker 14: look at the map that is posted there from the

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Speaker 14: last presidential election.

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Speaker 8: You want to see what Minnesota is.

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Speaker 14: It's all read except for one dot that is Minneapolis

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Speaker 14: and Saint Paul.

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Speaker 8: So it isn't reflective of Minnesotans.

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Speaker 14: But what is reflective Minnesotans, Chris, Minnesotans don't really care

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Speaker 14: for a conflict. You know, they want to love their neighbor.

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Speaker 14: They want to assume the best in their neighbors. And

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Speaker 14: for far too long that attitude, that attitude, and also

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Speaker 14: when you see something that's wrong, well maybe you don't

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Speaker 14: want to call it out because you're afraid somebody is

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Speaker 14: going to call you a racist or a xenophobe, or

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Speaker 14: you know, even though you're identifying criminal activity. Minnesotans have

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Speaker 14: let this go on far too long. We've elected some

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Speaker 14: really poor leaders. Look the fraud is staggered under Tim Walls,

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Speaker 14: our governor, and our Attorney General Ellison for the last

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Speaker 14: seven years. I mean, we started with a two hundred

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Speaker 14: and fifty million dollar feeding our Future pandemic fraud case,

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Speaker 14: largest pandemic fraud case in the country. But now we've

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Speaker 14: added the Small Business Administration Kelly Loffler's identified seventy nine

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Speaker 14: hundred loans with fraudsters potential fraudsters.

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Speaker 8: The total four hundred million dollars. I think it was

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Speaker 8: within the last.

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Speaker 14: Couple of days the HUT Secretary Scott Turner announced that

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Speaker 14: he's uncovered eighty four million in ineligible assistance payments made

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Speaker 14: during Biden's final year. That's just one year, eighty four

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Speaker 14: million dollars, and it's almost half a billion dollars in

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Speaker 14: improper assistance by the way, to five hundred and nine

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Speaker 14: dead tenants, and the list goes on. CMS has had

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Speaker 14: to freeze childcare payment because they're asking the State of

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Speaker 14: Minnesota to give them verification receipts show us where the

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Speaker 14: money's going right and they can't do it. The USDA

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Speaker 14: is frozen grant programs. I mean, you've got ten cabinet

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Speaker 14: members from President Trump's all star cabinet.

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Speaker 8: You've got ten.

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Speaker 14: Cabinet members that are investigating in detail what's going on

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Speaker 14: in Minnesota. The fraud is staggering, and then to the tragedy.

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Speaker 14: The tragedy is that and they did not tell the

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Speaker 14: truth about it. When Tim Walls came out after the shooting,

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Speaker 14: the unfortunate shooting with involving the ICE agent and a

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Speaker 14: lady who rammed him with the car, Tim Walls came

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Speaker 14: out and said, there's no coordination.

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Speaker 8: Chris, I want to make it clear.

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Speaker 14: Local law enforcement wherever they are, are supposed to secure

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Speaker 14: the perimeter, and ICE then does their business.

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Speaker 8: So if they're executing a search.

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Speaker 14: Warrant, whatever it might be, local police hold the perimeter.

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Speaker 8: They do their job.

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Speaker 14: Brian O'Hara and the Minneapolis Police Department refused to do anything.

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Speaker 14: So what they allowed was this chaos to begin. And

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Speaker 14: I know this is a tragedy. I'm tired of hearing

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Speaker 14: everybody say, oh, there's all these different videos, you can

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Speaker 14: interpret the way you want. Look at the video that

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Speaker 14: is very clear from the officer's standpoint. The officer doesn't

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Speaker 14: even pull his gun until she turns her wheels at him.

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Speaker 14: Spins him and then literally hits him. And what is

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Speaker 14: he supposed to do? A two thousand pound vehicle is

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Speaker 14: a weapon.

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Speaker 8: And this poor.

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Speaker 14: Guy was doing the best job he could under terrible circumstances,

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Speaker 14: Which brings me to the last point of answering your question.

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Speaker 8: Tim Walls is spent. He is circling the drain.

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Speaker 14: This guy was announced he's not going to seek in

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Speaker 14: his words, historic third.

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Speaker 8: Term as governor. Why because of the fraud And he.

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Speaker 14: Said he was going to stay home home, He's going

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Speaker 14: to work on this fraud issue. I mean, you're seven

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Speaker 14: to seven years too late, Tim. But then the next

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Speaker 14: call another press conference to say no, I will not.

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Speaker 8: Resign, right, and then the shooting took place. And what

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Speaker 14: I would argue that Tim Walls, our governor, the little

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Speaker 14: I got news for you, man. Somebody else already is

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Speaker 14: playing that part. You got Keith Ellison, the Attorney general.

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Speaker 14: These guys have been fomenting destruction, violence. You know our

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Speaker 14: protest last night on the University of Minnesota campus and

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Speaker 14: there was some damage to a hotel. Look, property damage

874
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Speaker 14: should not be tolerated. Assault, violence should not be tolerated.

875
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Speaker 14: There should be a zero what acceptance policy. You should

876
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 14: be arrested, you should be held accountable. And if they

877
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Speaker 14: would do that, this would settle down. But now they're

878
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Speaker 14: blaming ice officers for getting more aggressive when they put

879
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Speaker 14: their lives at risk. And these guys cities are peaceful.

880
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 14: They're chanting Chris, save a life, Chill and ice. That's

881
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Speaker 14: not peaceful.

882
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Speaker 4: Tom Emmer represents the sixth congressional district in the House

883
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Speaker 4: of Representatives of Minnesota and he's the majority whip. And

884
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Speaker 4: I just it's as plain as the nose on my face, Congressman.

885
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Speaker 4: They don't want to talk about the fraud. This Ice

886
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: story is all meant to not have to talk about

887
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 4: the rampant fraud, which Minneapolis can't be alone. And so

888
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: one wonders, this was something that has occurred to me

889
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 4: yesterday overly simple question in the era of AI Congressman,

890
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Speaker 4: should there be this kind of rampant untraceable fraud anymore.

891
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: In the technological era in which we live, it seems

892
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Speaker 4: almost impossible to get away with unless you're trying to

893
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Speaker 4: hide it.

894
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Speaker 14: Chris, I think it's going to come out. I don't

895
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Speaker 14: think you can hide from this. I think that's why

896
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 14: Tim Walls knows this is much bigger, which is why

897
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 14: it was accelerating. His demise was accelerating. He knows how

898
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Speaker 14: bad this is. I believe he's known all along how

899
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Speaker 14: bad it is. He just, you know, has been insulated

900
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Speaker 14: for years because you got a media that doesn't investigate

901
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Speaker 14: in the Twin Cities. In fact, they celebrate these crooked

902
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Speaker 14: politicians from the left.

903
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Speaker 8: So he's just been very arrogant about this.

904
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Speaker 14: And as the walls were closing in on Walls, all

905
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Speaker 14: of a sudden, you have this unfortunate incident, and you

906
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Speaker 14: are absolutely correct. This guy is going to focus on

907
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Speaker 14: the ice issue. He's going to continue to try and

908
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Speaker 14: rile up people. By the way, it's the same program.

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Speaker 8: That he did back in twenty twenty. I mean, just quickly, yes, Summers,

910
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Speaker 8: just because I have.

911
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 4: Limited time, so I just want to ask you quickly,

912
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Speaker 4: there's a bunch of bally who about the resignation of

913
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Speaker 4: these attorney and some of these federal prosecutors.

914
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Speaker 2: Do you want to speak to that quickly?

915
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I saw the article in the New

916
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Speaker 8: York Times.

917
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 14: Joe Thompson has done some amazing work on the fraud.

918
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Speaker 14: But I'm not going to comment on something till I

919
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Speaker 14: hear from Joe's mouth exactly what happened, because you know,

920
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Speaker 14: the New York Times is not necessarily going to put

921
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Speaker 14: things in context. So let's find out what actually is

922
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Speaker 14: the reasoning within the US Attorney's office. Keep in mind,

923
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Speaker 14: US Attorney's office has been full of Democrats for years,

924
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Speaker 14: for years, so I'm not surprised that others would be leaving.

925
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Speaker 14: And frankly, it's probably time that there's a cleaning of

926
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Speaker 14: the house at the US Attorney's office, there's a clearing

927
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Speaker 14: of the state government. I mean, there are so many

928
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 14: things that need to be flushed out. So maybe this

929
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Speaker 14: is the beginning of that.

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Speaker 4: Chris whip him or with about thirty seconds to go,

931
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Speaker 4: just quickly, could I ask you the president's talking about mortgage,

932
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Speaker 4: he's talking about credit cards, He's talking about some financial

933
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Speaker 4: movement he'd really like to see happen that has to

934
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Speaker 4: go through Congress first. Do you anticipate any of that

935
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Speaker 4: happening before the fall?

936
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Speaker 14: Well, we got to really love the fact that we

937
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Speaker 14: have a president Chris who thinks outside of the box,

938
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Speaker 14: and our goal is the same as his, and that

939
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Speaker 14: is putting the American people first and lowering the cost

940
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Speaker 14: of living, making things more affordable. I love the fact

941
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Speaker 14: that he's throwing out all these ideas and I can't

942
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Speaker 14: tell you which one or all of them.

943
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Speaker 8: Or none of them.

944
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Speaker 14: But what he's doing is he is giving us different

945
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Speaker 14: ideas that the Congress, which is in total alignment. This

946
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Speaker 14: is about putting Americans and American the American our country first.

947
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Speaker 14: We're totally aligned with the president. We'll see where any

948
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Speaker 14: of these ideas go. Yes, most of them will require

949
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Speaker 14: Congressional action. But I love the fact that he's throwing

950
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Speaker 14: this stuff out there because it's time. The other one

951
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Speaker 14: he's thrown out there, as you know, is it's not

952
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Speaker 14: about healthcare, it's about health insurance. The health the constructs

953
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 14: industry has absolutely gorged itself off the American public since

954
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Speaker 14: the Unaffordable Chair Act was created.

955
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Speaker 8: Donald Trump is.

956
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Speaker 2: Called a run congressman. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Thank you.

957
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Speaker 4: Byron Donald's talking about Tim Walls, the human mascot number

958
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Speaker 4: thirty eight. Here's the Congressman Byron Donald's dressing down Tim Walls,

959
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Speaker 4: calling ICE the Gestapo.

960
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Speaker 2: Take a listen.

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Speaker 15: You said earlier that the ICE agents under the orders

962
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Speaker 15: of President Trump are a modern day Gestapo. Do you

963
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Speaker 15: realize how discussing a phrase that is considering the history

964
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Speaker 15: of Nazi Germany?

965
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Speaker 2: Would you like to recant that statement.

966
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Speaker 16: What I said, Congressman, and I have a long history

967
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Speaker 16: of supporting law enforcement. I said President Trump was using

968
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Speaker 16: them as his modern day Gestapo, not identifying who you are,

969
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Speaker 16: coming up an unmarked band, taking people away and giving.

970
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Speaker 15: Is it the responsibility of ICE to actually deport illegal

971
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Speaker 15: aliens in the United States who are here? Isn't it

972
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Speaker 15: their responsibility?

973
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Speaker 16: Yes, it is, Congressman, except that the Constitution is not

974
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Speaker 16: an inconvenience.

975
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Speaker 2: It's not an either all. Nobody's said it in your jobs.

976
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Speaker 15: You have a responsibility to deport illegal aliens in the

977
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 15: president process going through that process right now, and let's

978
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Speaker 15: be very clear their previous administration, they abuse every process

979
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Speaker 15: there is under border laws to allow more than ten

980
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Speaker 15: million people into the country illegally, and this is a

981
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Speaker 15: burden on all Americans. And so the president is doing

982
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Speaker 15: his job. So what is sick to refer to Americans

983
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Speaker 15: who are ICE agents as gestapo Governor? You're wrong. You

984
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 15: need to apologize to these agents. They're doing their jobs.

985
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 15: They are Americans. They serve this country with honor and

986
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Speaker 15: decency and respect. Do not diminish their work simply because

987
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Speaker 15: you tried to make a cheap point.

988
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: And as for the ICE agents themselves, in clip fifty

989
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Speaker 4: one here Steven Miller makes it clear we stand with

990
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Speaker 4: these guys and they're legal and fully committed to doing

991
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Speaker 4: what they're doing.

992
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: Take a listen to all ICE officers.

993
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Speaker 17: You have federal immunity in the conduct of your duties,

994
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 17: and anybody who lays a hand on you or tries

995
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 17: to stop you or tries to obstruct you is committing

996
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Speaker 17: a felony. You have immunity to perform your duties, and

997
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 17: no one, no city official, no state official, no illegal alien,

998
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 17: no leftist agitator, or domestic insurrectionists can prevent you from

999
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 17: fulfilling your legal obligations and duties. And the Department Justice

1000
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 17: has made clear that if officials cross that line, into obstruction,

1001
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Speaker 17: into criminal conspiracy against the United States or against ICE officers.

1002
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Speaker 2: Then they will face justice.

1003
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Speaker 4: There are several stories out there too, and I may

1004
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Speaker 4: spend some more time on this a little later in

1005
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Speaker 4: the show, but there are several far left groups. It's

1006
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Speaker 4: being reported everywhere from the Gateway Pundit to a friends at.

1007
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Speaker 2: Readline dot com.

1008
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Speaker 4: Assaults against ICE are up thirteen hundred percent, vehicular attacks

1009
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Speaker 4: specifically up thirty two high hundred percent, death threats up

1010
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 4: eight thousand percent. And it's being funded. It's being funded,

1011
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 4: it's being coordinated, As is always the case with these

1012
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 4: leftist agitators, this whole thing is a coordinated effort to

1013
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 4: ultimately get us not talking about the fraud. That's why

1014
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 4: I continue to try to steer that conversation with Congressman

1015
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Speaker 4: Emmer back to the fraud. That's all that matters. And

1016
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Speaker 4: quite frankly, I think this is a loser for Democrats.

1017
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: NBC reporting Democrats are warned to steer clear of the

1018
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Speaker 4: abolish ICE slogan. Most Americans believe in American sovereignty. Most

1019
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: Americans do not want to be defrauded. Most Americans believe

1020
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 4: in borders. It's why Donald Trump was elected twice. These

1021
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 4: people ramming cars and ice and calling Ice villains for

1022
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 4: protecting American sovereignty. That's not a winning message Democrats. President

1023
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 4: Trump in Michigan yesterday talking about credit cards, housing affordability.

1024
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Speaker 4: Give me number forty three, if you would please, Pully.

1025
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Speaker 13: In addition, I proudly called for the credit card companies

1026
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Speaker 13: to cap interest.

1027
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 18: Rates at ten percent for one year because they're getting

1028
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 18: twenty eight and thirty percent and thirty two percent.

1029
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: And it's unfair.

1030
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Speaker 13: The rates are way too high.

1031
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: And forty four if you please. He talked about housing.

1032
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Speaker 13: As part of those efforts at Davos next week, I'm

1033
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 13: going to provide much more detail about our housing policies

1034
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Speaker 13: so that every American who wants to own a home

1035
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Speaker 13: will be able to afford when.

1036
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Speaker 18: We have some great things happening with housing. As you know,

1037
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Speaker 18: you saw the two hundred billion dollars buy in on

1038
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Speaker 18: bonds and mortgages. This will include a ban on large

1039
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Speaker 18: institutional investors buying up single family homes all over the

1040
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Speaker 18: country and making it impossible for people to buy all.

1041
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Speaker 18: And I've also announced that the US government is purchasing

1042
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Speaker 18: two hundred billion dollars of mortgage bonds to bring down

1043
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Speaker 18: mortgage rates, and it's had a huge impacts already started

1044
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Speaker 18: and just last week the average thirty year mortgage hup

1045
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Speaker 18: six percent for the first time in many years.

1046
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Speaker 4: Chief economists at the Heritage Foundation is ej and Tony.

1047
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Speaker 4: When I heard about these things, I said, get mister

1048
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Speaker 4: and Toni on the phone. I'm champing at the bit

1049
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Speaker 4: to know what he thinks about these proposals. Good morning, ej.

1050
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Speaker 12: Oh, Chris, good morning, thanks for having me again.

1051
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Speaker 4: I saw a bit of what you said on X. Specifically,

1052
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Speaker 4: let's start with before we get into credit cards, mortgage bonds,

1053
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 4: the president's involvement here. We've seen interest rates on mortgages

1054
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Speaker 4: come down below six percent here recently. Do you like

1055
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 4: the action here on housing? And what do you predict

1056
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 4: The President had alluded to if we get too aggressive

1057
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Speaker 4: too fast, it could start to eat away, erode heart,

1058
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Speaker 4: hurt people who own homes and their equity position. So

1059
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Speaker 4: he's got a tight rope to walk.

1060
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Speaker 2: Here a bit, doesn't he.

1061
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Chris, absolutely, that's exactly right. Unfortunately, we're in a

1062
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 12: bit of a no win situation, kind of left over

1063
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Speaker 12: by the Biden administration. I guess you could say where

1064
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Speaker 12: you do have a lot of folks that got into

1065
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Speaker 12: homes very very overpriced but at low interest rates. So

1066
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Speaker 12: for those people, they now can't sell their homes. This

1067
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Speaker 12: is why the existing housing market is really frozen over

1068
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Speaker 12: because if you're sitting on a two percent or two

1069
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Speaker 12: and a half percent interest rate, and I know plenty

1070
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Speaker 12: of people in that situation, you can't sell your home today.

1071
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Speaker 12: If you do, you lose that mortgage. Now you get

1072
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Speaker 12: a new one for six percent in a lot of markets,

1073
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Speaker 12: sometimes more, and you can't borrow as much, so you

1074
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Speaker 12: have to downsize your house. Most people are not willing

1075
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Speaker 12: to do that. You have people Chris literally who won't

1076
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Speaker 12: switch jobs right now because it would mean it would

1077
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Speaker 12: mean they'd have to move, and to facilitate that, you

1078
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Speaker 12: just can't do it with today's interest rate environment. So

1079
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Speaker 12: you have these golden handcuffs in place. And on top

1080
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Speaker 12: of that, because they overpaid on the home, they just

1081
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 12: don't have a lot of equity right now, so people's

1082
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 12: margins are very very thin. You start bringing down home

1083
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Speaker 12: prices across the board, not just in specific markets but everywhere,

1084
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Speaker 12: and now those people are really really in trouble because

1085
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Speaker 12: even when those interest rates come down, because home prices

1086
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Speaker 12: have come down, to guess what, you're now underwater on

1087
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Speaker 12: your mortgage right now. We have seen certain places like Tampa, Tampa, Florida, Austin,

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Speaker 12: Texas are really good examples where they are building so

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00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 12: much and they have added so many housing units, both

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Speaker 12: on the apartment side and also on the single family

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Speaker 12: home side, that you're seeing rents come down pretty dramatically

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00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 12: in those places. In fact, you're seeing prices even lower

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00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 12: than pre pandemic days. And again that's just because we

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00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 12: have increased the supply of housing so much in those areas.

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Speaker 12: So I think what the President has to do here

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Speaker 12: is you're right, he's really got to thread that needle.

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Speaker 12: He's got to try to make housing more affordable for

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Speaker 12: all the people who haven't yet had the opportunity to

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Speaker 12: buy housing. But he's also trying to do it in

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Speaker 12: such a way that it's not really kill the people

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00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 12: who got into these homes at the artificially high prices

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Speaker 12: in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: Let's say every builder I've spoken to says it is

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00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 4: for various reasons, it's not profitable, or there are just

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00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 4: too many hurdles and bureaucratic red tape nonsense measures in

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00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 4: place to build single family homes. They're being driven. Builders

1107
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 4: are being driven to build apartments and big units, structures, condos.

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Speaker 4: That's where builders are, or MC mansions as they're known.

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00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 4: They're building, you know, million dollar homes or apartment complexes.

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Speaker 4: They're not incentivized to build single family homes, EJ.

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Speaker 2: How do you get them to do it?

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Speaker 12: Chris, you're spot on this. This is a great point,

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00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 12: very very glad you brought it up. One of the

1114
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 12: big problems that we've seen from the Biden years again

1115
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 12: was the fact that inflations drove up costs everywhere, including

1116
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 12: construction costs. Now, depending on which index you want to use,

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00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 12: the increase was somewhere between twenty five and thirty percent.

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00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 8: Roughly.

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Speaker 12: That means that to build a starter home, let's say,

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Speaker 12: that very thin margin that you were already working with

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00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 12: is now essentially eroded. It's completely gone when it comes

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00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 12: to something like starter homes. A big reason, Chris, why

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Speaker 12: people will go through a development, let's say, or a

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Speaker 12: subdivision with all starter homes and they say, why do

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00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 12: these things all look alike. Well, that's one of the

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00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 12: ways that they tend to try to save costs. And

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00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 12: then you go through a neighborhood with all of the

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Speaker 12: MC mansions, as you put it, and they all tend

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Speaker 12: to look very different because you can customize those things

1130
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 12: and you can have those additional costs because the margins

1131
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 12: are so much bigger on those homes. So effectively today

1132
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 12: starter homes, which already had smaller margins, again, there is

1133
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 12: no margin left. So people just aren't building the starter

1134
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 12: homes anymore. They're building the apartment complexes, like you said,

1135
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 12: they're building the million dollar homes. This is why the

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Speaker 12: average price for a new home is almost six hundred

1137
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Speaker 12: thousand dollars today. Again, we're just not building the starter

1138
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 12: homes anymore. So how do you get around that. Well,

1139
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 12: the higher costs are pretty much baked in. There's not

1140
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Speaker 12: much you can do there. The big thing you can

1141
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 12: reduce is energy prices. I think the President's doing that

1142
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 12: with his pro energy agenda. Drill Baby, drill right, is

1143
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 12: helping to bring down energy prices. We are producing a

1144
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 12: record amount of energy today, it's up from a year ago.

1145
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 12: Good news on that front. The other thing you can do,

1146
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 12: and you already hinted at this, Chris, is that you

1147
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 12: got to cut the bureaucratic red tape. You got to

1148
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 12: get rid of those burdens some regulations and bring down

1149
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 12: the regulatory costs associated with home building. There's a lot

1150
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Speaker 12: of estimates I've seen that place the regulatory costs of

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00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 12: home construction at over one hundred thousand dollars. On top

1152
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 12: of that, there's a lot of bureaucratic red tape and

1153
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 12: excuse me, and regulatory costs centered around not just the

1154
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 12: construction of a home, but the financing of a home.

1155
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Speaker 12: We have to simplify the regulations around mortgages and that

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Speaker 12: also will help reduce costs not just for the home

1157
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 12: build but for the borrower who's trying to get the

1158
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Speaker 12: mortgage in the first place.

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Speaker 4: Can I take advantage of your time and keep you

1160
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: for another segment or no?

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Speaker 2: You got to go oh sure, I'd be happy to okay, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, because that was going to dictate where I was

1163
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 4: going next. Let me stay with this then, and too late,

1164
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 4: Jerome Powell, the president is really leaning on him. Got

1165
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 4: a lot of Republicans ringing their hands that the Justice

1166
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: Department maybe is looking at the overruns at the FED

1167
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 4: headquarters and that it's politicized. You get, Oh, I don't

1168
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 4: like this. This looks bad. Trump's being mean.

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Speaker 8: He's being a.

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Speaker 4: Bullied old Jerome who's an a political guy and just

1171
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 4: trying to do his job. I'm hearing this a lot.

1172
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Speaker 4: What do we think of the FED chair? And how

1173
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: important is the FED chair in this dynamic, if at all?

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Speaker 4: When we're talking about interest rates on mortgages. President Trump

1175
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Speaker 4: again hammered me yesterday, said we'd be in an even

1176
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Speaker 4: better shape if it weren't for Jerome Powell.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts.

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Speaker 12: You know, I don't understand this whole idea of Trump

1179
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 12: is politicizing the FED. Powell is the one who's politicizing

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00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 12: things right now. And I don't say that lightly. You know,

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00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 12: he should know better. He's not an economist, he's a attorney.

1182
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Speaker 12: He should have known. In fact, I'm sure he did

1183
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 12: know that by refusing to respond to Congress's requests for information,

1184
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Speaker 12: that this was going to get referred to the DOJ.

1185
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 12: And I'm sure he knew again as an attorney, that

1186
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 12: if he refused to respond to the DOJ's request for information,

1187
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 12: this was going to turn into a formal request again

1188
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 12: in the form of a subpoena, and also as an attorney,

1189
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Speaker 12: I'm sure he knows that by refusing to answer the subpoena,

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Speaker 12: that's how you're going to get an indictment. Nobody was

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01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 12: talking about in indictment until he mentioned it in his

1192
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 12: fake hostage video that he put out late Sunday night,

1193
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Speaker 12: which was done at that time to try to royal

1194
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Speaker 12: the markets on Monday morning. By the way, Oops, that

1195
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 12: didn't work. But I digress. The reason he mentioned an

1196
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 12: indictment there is because again he's the one trying to

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Speaker 12: politicize this. There is not going to be an indictment

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Speaker 12: if he simply provides the DOJ with the information that

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Speaker 12: he so far hasn't and that he also so far

1200
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 12: hasn't provided even to Congress. And even if he provides

1201
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 12: the information, if he didn't do anything wrong and the

1202
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 12: information shows that, then again no indictment. So who's really

1203
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 12: politicizing this, Chris?

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Speaker 4: So you have no doubt that Jerome Powell is a

1205
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 4: political animal that is intentionally trying to hinder economic growth

1206
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 4: just to keep Trump from benefiting.

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01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 12: Well, Chris, I think the record of history here speaks

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01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 12: for itself. You know, when Powell was up for renomination

1209
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 12: under Biden, he dutifully kept interest rates low because that's

1210
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 12: what the administration wanted at the time, even as inflation

1211
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 12: ran up to forty year highs. And during his reconfirmation process,

1212
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 12: he said that the seventy five basis point hike, in

1213
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 12: other words, raising interest rates three quarters of a percentage point,

1214
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 12: which is very very large to raise it a single

1215
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 12: for a single increase, he said that that was off

1216
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 12: the table. What happened as soon as he was reconfirmed

1217
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 12: by the Senate, as soon as they voted on him,

1218
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 12: he gave us four of those jumbo sized rate hikes

1219
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 12: in a row. Okay, And during the election in twenty

1220
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 12: twenty four, he cut interest rates to try to get

1221
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 12: the Fed's preferred candidate across the finish line, when there

1222
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 12: was no empirical justification for doing so. You could look

1223
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 12: at labor market data, you could look at inflation data,

1224
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 12: and those same data today are much more in favor

1225
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 12: of an interest rate cut than they were back then.

1226
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 12: And yet why did they cut rates? Probably because you

1227
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 12: had people like Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden who were

1228
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 12: pounding on him to cut rates. And he dutifully did so.

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Speaker 4: So one second, EJ. We'll be right back with you.

1230
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 4: More back with my buddy. Ej Antni, the chief economist

1231
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 4: at the Heritage Foundation, wanted to pivot to credit cards.

1232
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 14: EJ.

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Speaker 4: Most conservatives are not excited about this idea of capping

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01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: interest rates on credit cards. Nobody likes paying interest on

1235
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 4: credit cards. Nobody likes running up a credit card bill

1236
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 4: and only be paying interest and not paying Everybody understands this.

1237
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 4: The president has decided to take this on and cap

1238
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 4: interest rates, or at least entertain it. He's got to

1239
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 4: get Congress to agree. They probably won't. But what do

1240
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 4: you make of this message?

1241
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 12: Well, Chris, again, we're dealing with a problem left over

1242
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 12: from the last administration, and it's one of those situations

1243
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 12: where there's not really a there's no perfect answer, right,

1244
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 12: there's no perfect solution. Everything you do here, any choice

1245
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 12: you make, is going to have trade off. So that's

1246
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 12: the world we're dealing with. And I understand the perspective

1247
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 12: of people who are maybe more libertarian, who say, oh, no,

1248
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 12: this is a price control. Government can't implement price controls.

1249
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 12: I mean, I get that, I understand the sentiment, but

1250
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 12: it's not an argument, Okay, So let's deal with arguments,

1251
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 12: and let's understand that we're dealing in the real world here.

1252
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 12: And I also understand that if you do have some

1253
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 12: kind of interest rate sealing that you are going to

1254
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 12: price people, You're going to price some people out of

1255
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 12: the credit card market.

1256
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 8: I get that.

1257
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 12: But again, we're dealing with the real world. So let's

1258
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 12: look at the options that we have actually have available

1259
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 12: and not think of the world that we want to

1260
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 12: live in. So if we go back not that far,

1261
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 12: not that long ago, to the nineteen eighties, and then

1262
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 12: you know, in the seventies when we had a Supreme

1263
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 12: Court decision related to this, we were dealing with the

1264
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 12: situation where essentially states got to set these interest rates

1265
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 12: and you had banks that were subject to those local rules.

1266
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 12: You didn't have the nationally reaching rules that you have today.

1267
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 12: So the setup we have today, Chris, if you've ever

1268
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 12: wondered why are all of my credit card companies headquartered

1269
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 12: in either Delaware or South Dakota. The reason for that

1270
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 12: is because you get to export now the rules from

1271
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 12: the state of your headquarters to the rest of the country.

1272
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 12: So if Delaware or South Dakota are going to let

1273
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 12: you charge forty percent interest to your customer. You get

1274
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 12: to do that now regardless of what state your customer

1275
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 12: lives in. That wasn't always the case in this country. Instead, local,

1276
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 12: basically state usery laws applied regardless of where your company

1277
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 12: was headquartered. I see no reason why you couldn't simply

1278
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 12: change the National Banking Act or some similar legislation in

1279
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 12: order to go back to that type of setup. It'd

1280
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 12: be a little tricky given the Marquette Supreme Court decision

1281
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 12: on this, but it's certainly doable. And again, I understand

1282
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 12: that this means certain very high risk consumers are not

1283
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 12: going to get credit cards, but they're the same people

1284
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 12: who are very very likely going to fall into a

1285
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 12: perpetual debt spiral where they can never get out of debt.

1286
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 12: Let's not forget credit cards are literally the most marketed

1287
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 12: product or service in the entire economy.

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01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: Think of that.

1289
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 12: More than cars, more than any particular drug. Credit cards

1290
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 12: are more marketed than anything else because they are designed

1291
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 12: to get people into this debt spiral where you never

1292
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 12: actually get out of debt. And that's not good for

1293
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 12: a lot of Americans.

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01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 4: With a minute to go. Your prediction for twenty twenty

1295
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 4: six economically inflation held, that was the most recent report.

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01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 4: Where are we going?

1297
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 12: I think we're going to continue to make progress on

1298
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 12: the inflation front. A big part of that is the

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Speaker 12: energy story. As we keep ramping up supply of energy,

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Speaker 12: you put downward pressure on prices, and then the price

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Speaker 12: good news on that front. At the same time, the

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Speaker 12: huge inflow we've seen of investment that we've talked a

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Speaker 12: lot on your show about Chris, that is going to

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Speaker 12: continue boosting productivity. We've already seen the productivity numbers go

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Speaker 4: I must say I spent some time during the break

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Speaker 4: went down to it. My wife is having her fiftieth

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Speaker 4: birthday this year. She's calling it fast Eddie her Jubilee year.

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Speaker 4: This is a new concept that was introduced. You know,

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Speaker 4: I have a dear friend, doctor Bob Spinado in the

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia area. He's been my dentist and a friend of

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Speaker 4: mine for a long time. His lovely wife Debbie, and

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Speaker 4: he and my wife me. We were all out to

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Speaker 4: dinner one evening and Debbie cast the die for now

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Speaker 4: my own personal hell. She told Christine that when she

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Speaker 4: turns fifty, she's got to have a Jubilee Year, Christine lean, then,

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Speaker 4: what does that mean? She said, that means every month

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Speaker 4: for the entire year of your fiftieth birthday. She said,

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Speaker 4: what I did was I did something for me whatever

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Speaker 4: I wanted, something special to treat myself all year long.

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Speaker 4: Call it your Jubilee year. Christine of course loved it,

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Speaker 4: adopted it. The calendar turned and for her kick off

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Speaker 4: to her Jubilee year, one of the things she wanted

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Speaker 4: to do was go to paw Huska, Oklahoma, Aha, home

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Speaker 4: to the Pioneer Woman. Does that mean anything to you?

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Speaker 2: It does? Actually, yes, you know who this is.

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Speaker 6: I don't know who the woman is, but I do

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Speaker 6: know about the frontier and like the Sooner life, like

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Speaker 6: I actually know that the culture quite well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this woman and I've forgive me, I've forgotten her name.

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Speaker 4: I bet you could quit google her. But anyway, she

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Speaker 4: has a cooking show she's called the show is called

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Speaker 4: the Pioneer Woman, and she sells a bunch of stuff

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Speaker 4: and she's been on TV, I guess for a while now,

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Speaker 4: and Christine is just fascinated with her. They own this

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Speaker 4: expansive ranch in paul Husco, Oklahoma, and on this expansive

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Speaker 4: ranch she shoots her cooking show. And when they do

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Speaker 4: these things, they do them in batches. So they'll bring

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Speaker 4: in a crew and they'll shoot these things, you know,

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Speaker 4: several at a time, and they do it out on

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Speaker 4: the ranch. And you can go tour her ranch, her

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Speaker 4: studio facility where she shoots the show. And I'll tell

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Speaker 4: you one thing. I don't know anything about the Pioneer Woman.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure she's lovely, and I bet they're all great,

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Speaker 4: but I am in envy of this studio set up.

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Speaker 4: When we went to see this thing over the break,

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Speaker 4: I said to myself, this is what we need, fast edding.

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Speaker 4: We need hundreds of thousands of acres of Oklahoma land

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Speaker 4: to just raise cattle and do the show in the

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Speaker 4: middle of nowhere. And they've got this beautiful studio that

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Speaker 4: looks out over just desolate nothing. And I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 6: I Chris, we joked about Stately Stagall Mountain.

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Speaker 2: You know, I really like this Stately.

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Speaker 6: Stagall studio you're talking about, and and I love Oklahoma.

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Speaker 8: Love it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's beautiful, It's just beautiful. And they built

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Speaker 4: this thing. Here's what you'd love is they built it

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Speaker 4: in such a way. It's got an industrial kitchen, of

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Speaker 4: course because it's a cooking show largely, but they've also

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Speaker 4: built it to look like a home and a kitchen,

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Speaker 4: a home kitchen, big expansive, but they've got an industrial

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Speaker 4: kitchen where the crew preps a lot of stuff. But

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Speaker 4: then they've got all kinds of like hotel room condo

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Speaker 4: is kind of things attached where the crew comes in

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Speaker 4: and stays their own private suites where they can stay

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Speaker 4: and shower and watch TV and do.

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Speaker 2: All the thing.

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Speaker 4: It's like a hotel. So the crew comes in and

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Speaker 4: shoots the thing. She lives on the ranch way off away.

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Speaker 4: So that's I'm thinking about doing that. If all goes well,

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Speaker 4: what do you think we just take this entire show

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Speaker 4: to a ranch and you all can live in a

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Speaker 4: compound there and I'll just I'll live adjacent a few

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Speaker 4: hundred acres away.

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Speaker 6: Stately Stigall Ranch. I am this is this sounds great.

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Speaker 6: The christa Gross show brought you from the Relief Factor

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Speaker 6: Studios in the Stately Stackall Ranch.

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Speaker 2: It sounds amazing.

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Speaker 4: I'm in and if Oklahoma would have me, I'm strongly

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Speaker 4: considering it.

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Speaker 8: Anyway.

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Speaker 4: That's that here from the Relief Factor Studios. This morning.

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Speaker 4: We lost a real giant in thinking yesterday in Scott Adams.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how many of you are familiar with him,

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Speaker 4: Some are, some or not. I get it, particularly if

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Speaker 4: you're of a certain age. Dilbert the comic strip that

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Speaker 4: appeared in the newspapers for I don't know how long, forever, decades,

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Speaker 4: I suppose Scott Adams was kind of most famous for that.

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Speaker 4: But then he started getting into commentary a little later

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Speaker 4: in his life, and he became very well known for

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Speaker 4: his communication about President Trump's communication style, and he became

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Speaker 4: fascinated with explaining the way President Trump was connecting with

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Speaker 4: people before many other people even understood it. This brought

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Speaker 4: him great scorn by people who used to believe him

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Speaker 4: to be part of the popular culture and didn't think

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Speaker 4: he was political. In fact, here's just a little bit

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Speaker 4: of Scott Adams talking to Jake Tapper back in twenty

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Speaker 4: sixteen about President Trump. Take a listen to this and

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Speaker 4: clip forty you.

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Speaker 7: Because you've been a Trumpologist and also seen in many times,

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Speaker 7: many instances to have supported Donald Trump, you have experienced

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Speaker 7: something of a backlash even when it comes to speaking engagements,

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Speaker 7: Is that right?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, so my speaking engagements dried up since I started

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Speaker 19: talking about Trump. They went to zero how many I

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Speaker 19: have on the books right now. But people also came

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Speaker 19: to Amazon and gave me one star reviews under my

1445
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Speaker 19: book and said it's because of Trump. And people said

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Speaker 19: they were calling newspapers to get Bilburgh kicked down the

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Speaker 19: newspapers and that sort of thing. And now when I

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Speaker 19: go out to try to get funding for my startup,

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Speaker 19: I don't know how hard that's going to be. So

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Speaker 19: my timing might be bad there, But overall, it was

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Speaker 19: also the most fun year I've ever had in my

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Speaker 19: life and totally worth it. And if I could be

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Speaker 19: part of letting the public see their options a little

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Speaker 19: more clearly, that's good. And I would say on Veterans' Day,

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Speaker 19: if anybody wants to find a way to meet in

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Speaker 19: the middle, donate to a veterans organization. It's the one

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Speaker 19: thing everybody agrees on, and it's about time to look

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Speaker 19: for some common ground.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 4: I was a real admirer of his, and so yesterday

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Speaker 4: when I heard of his death, I knew he'd been battling.

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Speaker 4: I posted a message on social media, I hope you

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Speaker 4: follow along on social media. If you don't, here's what

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Speaker 4: you missed. My thoughts on Scott Adams number thirty nine. Hi, there,

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Speaker 4: I want to talk to you about the passing of

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Speaker 4: Scott Adams today. Those of you who were fans knew

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Speaker 4: he was ill. The creator of the comic strip dilbert

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Speaker 4: simple drawings of office absurdity. He let millions of people

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Speaker 4: laugh at their own frustrations, bad bosses, pointless meetings, soul

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Speaker 4: crushing bureaucracy made them feel seen, and that alone made

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Speaker 4: him beloved. But Scott was also a teacher, and a

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Speaker 4: mentor and a friend to strangers. His book How to

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Speaker 4: Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big it showed

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Speaker 4: countless readers that failure isn't final, it's data. He made

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Speaker 4: optimism practical, not naive. He had a show called Coffee

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Speaker 4: with Scott Adams, and it offered something rare, clear thinking

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Speaker 4: in chaotic times, calm, logic, humor, no agenda except truth.

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Speaker 4: He helped people cut through media noise and spot persuasion

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Speaker 4: tricks and hold onto their sanity at the same time,

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Speaker 4: during lockdowns and division and uncertainty. His voice became a

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Speaker 4: lifeline for many millions kind of became Internet Dad to

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Speaker 4: Americans everywhere, and he did it without yelling or selling fear.

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Speaker 4: He was among the first to see Donald Trump's communication

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Speaker 4: style as high level persuasion and not politics as usual,

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Speaker 4: and agree or disagree. He taught people how to recognize

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Speaker 4: what others missed. Most admirably, I think, in the face

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Speaker 4: of cancel culture and his famous comic strip being scrubbed

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Speaker 4: by left wing publications and popular culture just for daring

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Speaker 4: to speak positively of candidate Trump, Scott did it anyway.

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Speaker 4: He sacrificed his comfort and his popularity for speaking the

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Speaker 4: truth as he said aught and in his final chapter,

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Speaker 4: Scott embraced the ultimate truth, the truth of Christianity and

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Speaker 4: the saving power of Christ. Scott was a pretty classic

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Speaker 4: non believer, not hostile, but not really willing to hear

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Speaker 4: much of it until the end. He approached faith with

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Speaker 4: that same intellectual curiosity he brought to everything else. It

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Speaker 4: was a quiet, brave, fearless, last minute exploration. In fact,

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Speaker 4: in his last days he asked to be respected in

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Speaker 4: his private conversations with Jesus. And that made me smile,

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Speaker 4: because if Christ worked in Scott's heart the way he

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Speaker 4: worked in mine, I know where Scott is today. You know,

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Speaker 4: Scott made people wiser, braver, and feel less alone. He

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Speaker 4: showed that one clear mind with humor and kindness can

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Speaker 4: change a lot of lives and light it up. And

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Speaker 4: he's going to be deeply missed and he will be

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Speaker 4: long remembered. In the last few years, I got to

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Speaker 4: thinking today that we have lost some real giants, some

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Speaker 4: voices of intellect from Rush to Charlie. Our friends Dennis

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Speaker 4: Praeger and mictor Davis Hanson have been sidelined with various struggles.

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Speaker 4: We continue to pray over those gentlemen, and then today

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Speaker 4: we lost another giant, and Scott Adams. But the thing

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01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 4: is God is still on the throne and in perfect

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01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,959
Speaker 4: control of it all. Isaiah forty twenty nine says God's

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Speaker 4: understanding is unsearchable Psalm one thirty eight sixteen. We're reminded

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Speaker 4: all our days are numbered, and God knows that expiration date.

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Speaker 4: So as smart as any of us may think we are,

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Speaker 4: or they are, or were, our God is smarter. He's perfect.

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Speaker 4: And one day we'll meet with these impressive intellects again,

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Speaker 4: and all of us will sit together at our father's

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Speaker 4: right hand and We're all going to learn from him

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01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 4: together and that brings me peace. I hope it to you.

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Speaker 4: Until then, we all must work to run our own race,

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01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 4: fight the good fight, and finish strong, as Paul encouraged

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01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 4: us in scripture, as Scott Adams did. For the voices

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01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 4: we've lost in the last years, it's been a tough

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01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 4: string of them. And for those we're missing who are

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Speaker 4: still with us, including Scott Adams. Today we say I

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Speaker 4: thank you to all of them for being reminders to

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01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 4: all of us to run our own race and finish strong.

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Speaker 2: God bless you Scott.

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Speaker 4: On this passing of Scott Adams. You know, there's been

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01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 4: a lot of discussion lately about faith and Christianity and

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01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 4: or the growth of Christianity. That also means there's a

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01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 4: lot of hostility to that concept. There was a piece

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01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 4: in Salon that I set aside a while ago. Republicans

1536
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 4: are betting the midterms on mass conversions that aren't happening

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01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 4: this loaths. That's a woman named Amanda Marcott. I don't

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01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 4: know who she is, but she clearly hates Christianity, and

1539
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 4: she clearly hates what is being viewed as the growth

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01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 4: of Christianity. And a revival in the country, and so

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01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 4: she's written this whole piece at Salon to try to

1542
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 4: make the case that it isn't real being a Republican.

1543
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 4: It's being suggested as synonymous with being an evangelical Christian

1544
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 4: whose main duty is to convert non believers. And she

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01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 4: talks about how it's become a political message inseparable from

1546
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 4: a religious one. Amanda, let me just tell you something

1547
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 4: about Christianity, okay, because I understand that you look at

1548
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 4: it through the prism of political opportunism. And she's gone

1549
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 4: on to say that events like America Fast, people in

1550
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 4: the ministry, right wing media, everyone pushing Christianity now, and

1551
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 4: that it's just a sales gimmick, and that it's not

1552
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 4: sincere right wing media outlets TPUSA, social media influencers, there's

1553
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 4: now an entire machinery propping up this false narrative that

1554
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 4: young people are stampeding to the pews. She goes on

1555
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 4: to say, there's no evidence of it, but it's just

1556
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 4: really meant to take people's money and sell them a

1557
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,879
Speaker 4: story about how all the kids are coming to Jesus

1558
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 4: and the GOP. And she says it's just not true. Amanda,

1559
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 4: and I heard some criticism of Scott saying in his

1560
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 4: last dage, you know it's something called Pascal's wage or

1561
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 4: this idea of well, I don't know whether Jesus is

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01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 4: real or not, but I'm going to go ahead and

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01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 4: say I hope he is and proclaim that I think

1564
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 4: he is, just in case there is one. I don't

1565
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 4: want to be on the losing side of that bet. Listen,

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01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 4: that's between Scott and the Lord as to how that

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01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 4: was ultimately judged. It's not for me to say one

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01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 4: way or the other. But you should know this, Miss Marcott,

1569
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:51,839
Speaker 4: about Christians in general. I don't call myself a Christian

1570
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 4: because I want the GOP to win or do well.

1571
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 4: I don't vote for Republicans because of my Christian faith.

1572
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 4: I don't put my takes ahead of my Christian faith.

1573
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 4: Nothing matters more to me than my relationship with Christ.

1574
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 4: I don't need politics to have a relationship with Christ.

1575
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 4: My politics, the way I read and watch the news

1576
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 4: and talk about the news, and the way I vote. Yes,

1577
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 4: I consider my Christian faith in all that I do,

1578
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 4: and it does influence the way I make decisions and

1579
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 4: view the world. But it is not second to my politics.

1580
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 4: My Christian faith is first. It comes first, and it

1581
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 4: is the priority. And you should know, miss Marcott, about

1582
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 4: those of us who are sincere Christians. First of all,

1583
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 4: it's about getting right in our own personal walk. It's

1584
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 4: not about clubbing people over the head. It's about our

1585
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 4: personal relationship, our declaration, our sincere repentance, our belief in Christ.

1586
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 4: And yes, yes, it is our calling to try to

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01:22:55,640 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 4: win as many souls as we can to Christ. Too Guilty, Cincinnati, Ohio,

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Speaker 4: we're looking at you this morning on the Salem News Channel.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for listening on the Ticket in Cincinnati. Thanks for

1590
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 4: listening on great radio stations like the Ticket all over

1591
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,720
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1592
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1593
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1594
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Speaker 2: I hope that you do.

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Speaker 4: We played for you earlier in the show, and you

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01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 4: know here again this points back to if I may,

1603
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 4: I'm not going to sermonize, but I am just going

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01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 4: to say when we talk about things like biological men

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01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 4: and biological women, and biology generally and people being created

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01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 4: as a man or a woman, I believe that. As

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01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 4: a Christian, I believe that. I believe we are knitted

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01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 4: in our mother's womb. God knows every hair on her head.

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01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 4: I don't believe God makes mistakes. I don't believe doctors

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01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 4: get to assign you a gender at birth. And that's

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01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 4: why I call this type of speech pit of hell

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01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,839
Speaker 4: kind of speech. And if we allow it to continue

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01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 4: to seep into our national dialogue and treat it as normal,

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01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 4: we're on a really slippery course. I mean, we already are,

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01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 4: and God knows that. But I will just say I'm

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01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 4: not participating. I don't use these words gender assigned at

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01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 4: birth or cis gender. Sadly, we have a Supreme Court

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01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 4: justice Justice what is a woman who quite literally could

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01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 4: not define it in her own Supreme Court hearing? And

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01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 4: she goes down this path yesterday when debating men in

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01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 4: women's sports, and whether states have the right to keep

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01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 4: men from competing against women in women's sports. Here's some

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01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 4: of this again yesterday number forty eight.

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Speaker 9: You have the overarching classific patient. You know, everybody has

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01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 9: to be play on the team that is the same

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01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 9: as their sex at birth. But then you have a

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01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:16,799
Speaker 9: gender identity definition that is operating within that meaning a distinction,

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01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 9: meaning that for CIS ginger girls they can play consistent

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01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 9: with their gender identity, for transgender girls they can't.

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Speaker 3: So I think that okay. It as to the part

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01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 3: about your ability to pass.

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01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 4: Over here here here again, I really I just wanted

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01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 4: you to hear not so much the answer because I

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01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 4: feel so sorry for the Solicitor general there who has

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01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 4: to try to entertain that word salad is legitimate from

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court justice. Here to talk about this in

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01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,759
Speaker 4: more detail is the director of the Women's Independent Law Center.

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Speaker 4: Former Trump White House senior policy strategist Mae. Mailman. May

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Speaker 4: it's good to see you again, Good morning.

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Speaker 20: Good morning.

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01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 4: I don't mean to make you editorialize too much here

1642
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 4: on a Supreme Court justice, but I must say we're

1643
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 4: in new territory that I couldn't have imagined in my

1644
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 4: lifetime to listen to a Supreme Court justice using those

1645
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 4: turns of phrase as though they mean something or are real.

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01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 4: It's alarming to me.

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01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 20: I don't know about you, So Kantanji Brown Jackson is

1648
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,759
Speaker 20: so far past alarming to me, I'm actually not concerned

1649
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 20: about it. It's like crazy people are going to be crazy,

1650
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 20: and what are you going to do for me? What's

1651
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 20: a little bit more concerning is actually the conservative justices,

1652
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 20: not Justice Alito obviously, but the conservative justices generally use

1653
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 20: the same language, and by that I mean trans girls.

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01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 20: You've seen it actually in Supreme Court majority opinions written

1655
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 20: by the Chief Justice, written by Amy Cony Barrett like that,

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01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:01,919
Speaker 20: they play the pronoun game. They call bull trans girls.

1657
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 20: And for me, that means even if you win this case,

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01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 20: which I do think that the states of West Virginia

1659
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 20: and Idaho will win their cases and women's sports will

1660
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 20: be legal in their states, but that just means that

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01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 20: the next case is going to be about men and

1662
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 20: women's prisons, and then the next case is going to

1663
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 20: be about men and women's domestic abuse shelters, And the

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01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 20: next case is going to be about a man in

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01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 20: a woman's nursing room.

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Speaker 1: It's just going to keep.

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01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 20: Coming, because if men can become women, you know, trans girls,

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01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 20: trans women, then.

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01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: It's just case after case after case.

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Speaker 20: And so I really do hope that at some point

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01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 20: the justices, and I do mean the conservative justices too,

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01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 20: at some point get it that men cannot become women.

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01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 20: This is not a difficult concept. And to stop using

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01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 20: language that pretends otherwise.

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Speaker 4: I can't help but continue to look at it through

1676
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 4: the spiritual prism. I'm not again going to make you

1677
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 4: pine on that per se. But from a legal point

1678
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 4: of view, if this is malleable, if biology is malleable,

1679
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 4: if we start playing with words that people can just

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01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 4: be whatever it is they think or feel they want

1681
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 4: to be, I legally, it just seems to erode the

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01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 4: very building blocks upon which law is built. I mean,

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01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 4: if you can be anything, and we're all just these amorphous,

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01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 4: shape shifting things, what does anything mean?

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Speaker 2: May Yeah, And I.

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Speaker 20: Think about two things when you say that. So one

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01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 20: is the book nineteen eighty four, which I know everybody

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01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 20: always goes to. But the premise there is that you

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01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 20: affect the language to affect the truth. Right, So once

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01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 20: you start taking away words, you take away meaning, you

1691
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 20: take away people's ability to describe the truth, and therefore

1692
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 20: you take away truth itself, and truth becomes whatever people

1693
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 20: with power say is true. And if that's what your

1694
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 20: nation is, rooted in power and not truth, then you

1695
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 20: are rooted in nothing. And so then that reminds me

1696
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 20: of the second point, which is what our nation was

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01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 20: founded on, which is fundamental truths, that all men are

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01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 20: created equal, those types of things that are fundamental to

1699
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 20: our country. And if we leave truth and instead cling

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01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 20: to whatever the powerful, the elites, the leftist judges, the

1701
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 20: leftist donors, the university presidents, if we cling to whatever

1702
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 20: they say, then then it's not actually just sex that's

1703
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 20: the issue. It's everything. It's our the whole system of

1704
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 20: our government. Then maybe all men are not created equal.

1705
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 20: Maybe all of the fundamental truths that our nation was

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01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 20: founded on are dissolved.

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Speaker 1: And that is much more concerning actually than the.

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01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 20: Than women having to deal with the ridiculousness and the

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01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 20: harm of men in their spaces.

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01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 4: Again, not why you're here, but it's a cousin to

1711
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 4: me in my opinion, when I heard somebody say to

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01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 4: me this weekend and on social media and I dressed

1713
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 4: it on social media because I thought it was so

1714
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 4: sort of ironic. They were thumping their chest about being

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01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 4: an American and as such they didn't have to obey

1716
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 4: anything Ice says. And I had to laugh because I said, well, okay,

1717
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 4: immigration and customs enforcement exists to protect your American sovereignty.

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01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 4: So you're proud of being an American citizen and you

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01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 4: wear that as a badge of honor, and that's great,

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Speaker 4: but then you castigate and demonize and attack the very

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Speaker 4: people that are in charge of enforcing that meaning you see.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's again, it's that play on words that

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Speaker 4: I find problematic, and the left has yet to really

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Speaker 4: explain for me.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, So when people talk about rights, what people on

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Speaker 20: the right mean is things that are derived from your value,

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Speaker 20: your dignity as a human being. And as a human being,

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Speaker 20: you are preserve your rights through a system of laws,

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Speaker 20: through a system of government. I won't harm you, you

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Speaker 20: want harmony, and you have to abide by those rules.

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Speaker 20: And for the left, your rights are just whatever they

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Speaker 20: think at the moment. I have a right to healthcare,

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Speaker 20: I have a you know, I have a right to

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Speaker 20: your money. I have a right to for you know,

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Speaker 20: a company to not make any money. They just it

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Speaker 20: doesn't mean anything. And so when you use language and

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Speaker 20: you use things like your rights, you have to think

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Speaker 20: about the framework in which that exists.

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Speaker 1: And of course the left is incapable of doing that.

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Speaker 4: May Maelman, with US director of Women's Independent Law Center

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Speaker 4: and a former Trump senior policy strategists on this, the

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Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal summarizes, I think I heard you just

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Speaker 4: say the same. That they appear likely to uphold this.

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Speaker 4: So the states will have the right to make the

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Speaker 4: decision about who can compete in what sport. When it

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Speaker 4: comes to gender, this feels related to Row versus Wade.

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Speaker 4: It feels frankly related to gay marriage, although the Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court is probably not going to take that up. I mean,

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Speaker 4: where the Constitution doesn't expressly write this out. It seems

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Speaker 4: this court made up right now of these people, seems

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Speaker 4: to favor the states.

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Speaker 20: Yes, yeah, so I think that this is going to

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Speaker 20: be a very sports specific ruling, and they will say

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Speaker 20: that under Title nin and the Constitution that states can

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Speaker 20: not must, but can have a female category versus what

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Speaker 20: the left wants. Actually they kind of ran away from

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Speaker 20: their own argument. But what the left wants is actually, yes,

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Speaker 20: you can. You can have men and women's.

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Speaker 1: Sports, but for certain individuals.

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Speaker 20: What about this boy? What about this boy? This boy

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Speaker 20: doesn't have a lot of testosterone. This boy is not

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Speaker 20: going to take a girl's spot. You know, this boy

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Speaker 20: is too young, This boy hasn't gone through puberty. And

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Speaker 20: once you get that whole network of what if, but

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Speaker 20: then of course you can't have your rule.

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Speaker 8: You can't have men.

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Speaker 20: And women's sports because it's just litigated every single time.

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Speaker 20: So I do think that they'll win, but I don't

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Speaker 20: actually know whether you're going to be able to pick

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Speaker 20: out themes beyond sports, because they did feel a little

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Speaker 20: bit uncomfortable extending beyond that. There were a lot of questions, well,

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Speaker 20: what if you have a men's calculus class and a

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Speaker 20: women's calculus class. So it didn't actually feel like a

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Speaker 20: state's rights type of argument to me.

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Speaker 1: It felt instead much more like, this is.

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Speaker 20: An area where there are biological differences. Title nine was

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Speaker 20: created in order to give women these sources of opportunities,

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Speaker 20: So I see it rooted actually much more in sports

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Speaker 20: than in a broader notion about state's authority.

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Speaker 4: Which, of course Justice Alito poked the hole in this

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Speaker 4: and made the ACLU attorney just sputter because he said,

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Speaker 4: all right, well, so if a male shows up and

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Speaker 4: just declares, I'm a woman today and I want to

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Speaker 4: compete against the women, can'ty? And she said, well no

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Speaker 4: in that case, no, And he said, well, then what's

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Speaker 4: discrimination by definition? I don't understand what we're talking about here.

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Speaker 4: It's like, what are the rules about what makes a

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Speaker 4: man a woman and vice versa. It's so it's silly,

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Speaker 4: it's inconsistent. And I think they even hear how silly

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Speaker 4: they are. They seem to fall apart under cross examination.

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Speaker 4: The ACLU.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, so they you know, it's they're in a difficult spot,

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Speaker 20: I guess, because what they're arguing for is so crazy.

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Speaker 20: But I think they knew that they had to concede

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01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 20: that women's sports in general are legal, because if you're

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Speaker 20: trying to tell these justices that you can't have a

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Speaker 20: women's category, you know, you might get Kintanji Brown Jackson

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Speaker 20: to agree with you, but I think you lose everybody else.

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Speaker 20: And so once you say that women's sports are legal,

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Speaker 20: and then you're just trying to chip away by saying

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01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 20: but but but unless you can explain what all those

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01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 20: butts are.

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01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: It's the whole thing is.

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Speaker 20: Not going to make sense. And of course if there's

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01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 20: any exception that actually just does eliminate women's sports, because

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01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,799
Speaker 20: it's not like your YMCA girls basketball team can litigate

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Speaker 20: this question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he may listen. I am grateful for your analysis

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01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 4: of this. I hope we're right and this is a clear,

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01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 4: decisive victory for women, because that's what this is about,

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Speaker 4: protecting women. Meye, may olmen come back and see us soon.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: More a minute from NBC News. I told you earlier

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Speaker 4: in the show. Democrats want to steer clear of the

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01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 4: term abolish Ice. Now why would that be? I don't understand.

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01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 4: I thought Ice was diablo. I thought Ice were the gestappo.

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01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 4: What would scare them about abolish ice? Have you noticed

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Speaker 4: you're not seeing any polling to my knowledge, which correct

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01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong, fast Eddie. Have you seen any

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01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 4: polling on Renee Good? The shooting death of Renee Good?

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Speaker 4: Have you seen any polling data on it? Have you

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01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 4: seen any polling data on Ice come out through the

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01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 4: legacy media? If it's out there, I'm not saying it's not.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying I don't recall it and I don't

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Speaker 4: see a lot of it.

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Speaker 6: If it's out there, are you on Renee Good specifically?

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01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 6: I can't say that I have come across something. There

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01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 6: is a Quinnipiac poll that just came out that I

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01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 6: have to look at, but I don't think it has

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Speaker 6: to do with Renee Good.

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Speaker 4: Third Way, in a memo to Democrats shared with NBC News,

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Speaker 4: warning democrats talking in extreme terms in the wake of

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01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 4: the Renee Good shooting. The impulse is emotional, the slogan

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01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 4: is simple, but politically it's lethal. Never doubt that the

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Speaker 4: American people elected Donald Trump to secure our borders and

1836
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 4: crack down on illegals in this country. Legal immigrants to

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01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 4: this country are the most passionate about cracking down on

1838
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 4: the law break. And yet they're leaning into this. And

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01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 4: I don't believe for a second this Renee Good drama

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01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 4: is benefiting Democrats. I don't believe for a second most

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01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 4: of the country supports this hysteria attacking Ice. I don't

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01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 4: believe for a second the country thinks Christine Nome should

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01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 4: be impeached, and yet that's exactly what Democrats are doing.

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01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 4: Give me number forty two, Paul, if you.

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01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 21: Please, I rise today to announce I will be impeaching

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01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 21: Homeland Security Secretary Christi Nome. Secretary Nome has violated the

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01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,560
Speaker 21: Constitution and she needs to be held accountable for terrorizing

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01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 21: our communities. Operation Midway Blitz has torn apart the Chicago

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01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 21: land area. President Trump declared war on Chicago, and then

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01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 21: he brought violence and destruction to our city and our

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01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 21: suburbs in the form of immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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01:37:55,320 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 4: Violence and destruction is plaguing urban Chicago because of ice.

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01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 4: Go with that, run and run hard with this. Please Democrats.

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01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 4: The third way, people are warning them, don't do this.

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01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 4: You're gonna kill yourselves, and they can't resist it. They

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01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 4: they'd like mothed to flame. They're leaning in fifty House

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01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 4: Democrats sign on to impeaching Christinoum yesterday. Please please, I'm

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01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 4: going to be prayerful that the Democrats continue to ride

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01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:31,839
Speaker 4: this horse. Who's funding anti ice tactics like those used

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Speaker 4: by Renee Nicole good This areadline dot com Minnesota Ice Watch.

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Speaker 4: On an Instagram page shared screenshots from a d arrest primer,

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01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 4: which gives agitator's advice on how to prevent law enforcement

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01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 4: officers from taking someone into custody.

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Speaker 2: I read you earlier.

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Speaker 4: Assaults against ICE are up thirteen hundred percent From Gateway Pundit,

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01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 4: complying with violence is viacelence. The Minnesota Ice Watch group,

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01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 4: Renee Good and her wife Becca Good were affiliated with

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01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 4: disseminated materials teaching activists how to de arrest themselves and

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01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:16,719
Speaker 4: their comrades when confronting law enforcement out in the street.

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01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 4: They're training them. DHS employee leaks sensitive information on thousands

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01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 4: of ICE and Border Patrol agents. Remember what I have

1873
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 4: said that President Trump's assassination attempt was allowed. Look no

1874
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 4: further than the Secret Service has placed an agent who

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01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 4: served on Vice President JD. Vance's protective detail on administrative

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01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 4: leave and suspended his clearance after he was captured in

1877
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 4: an undercover video talking about sensitive parts of his job.

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01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 4: So there are still insiders who were helping leftists target

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01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 4: ICE and target the Vice president or talk about it anyway.

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01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 4: This cancer's got to be rooted out. The American public

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01:39:57,880 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 4: are not going to stand for it. They do not

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01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 4: tolerate it. Crats are leaning into it, good limp. So

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Speaker 4: that's a wrap for another Christagall Show podcast. Thanks for

1884
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 4: committing to it, listening to it all the way through.

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01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 4: You're a fighter. I like that about you. Hope you'll

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01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 4: leave it a five star review and a written review.

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Speaker 4: Apple Podcasts, Spotify. We'll see you next time here on

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