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Speaker 2: I have the privilege of being able to write about

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Speaker 2: these women that maybe feel like you or me, that

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Speaker 2: they were misunderstood, that maybe someone misjudged you, or they

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Speaker 2: came to you with a feeling of just something that

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Speaker 2: you couldn't correct and even though it might be wrong,

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Speaker 2: you might feel really sad about that, and you can

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Speaker 2: learn a lot from these women of the Bible.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to a special scripture study bonus episode of the

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Speaker 3: Jesus Calling podcast where we focus on some of the

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Speaker 3: often misunderstood women of the Bible with author, podcaster and

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Speaker 3: speaker Mary Dumuth. Many of us grew up hearing the

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Speaker 3: stories of women like Bathsheba, Tamar, and the Woman at

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Speaker 3: the Well, often presented in a simplified and sometimes judgmental light.

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Speaker 3: But one of the Sunday School lessons we've learned miss

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Speaker 3: the mark by overlooking the cultural context, the brutal realities

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Speaker 3: of the time, and what the Bible actually says about

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Speaker 3: these women. Mary Dumuth takes us through a powerful rereading

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Speaker 3: of their narratives, challenging the common misconceptions.

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Speaker 2: My name is Mary du Muth and I am the

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Speaker 2: author of over fifty books in various kinds of contexts,

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Speaker 2: and I have a daily podcast called Pray every Day,

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Speaker 2: which has been something I've been doing for about almost

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Speaker 2: eight years now. I am a mom to three adult children,

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Speaker 2: I have a husband of almost thirty five years, and

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Speaker 2: I love to speak around the world. One of my practices,

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Speaker 2: my spiritual practices over the past couple of years, has

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Speaker 2: the women of the Bible. The second Tamark she's the

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Speaker 2: My life has been how God has intersected a very

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Speaker 2: broken story, a very traumatic story, and has brought beauty

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Speaker 2: to the point to bring me into places of ambassadorship

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Speaker 1: Of the Lord intersect those stories.

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Speaker 2: I think we all have a lens by which we

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Speaker 2: But in the springtime of this particular year, when kings

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Speaker 2: It's so beautiful that he even says to her that

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Speaker 2: that many times because she could not produce an air

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Speaker 2: And so when we come to the scripture, we think, oh,

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Speaker 2: she's this naughty woman who did bad things. How nice

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Speaker 2: of Jesus to restore her. But actually he sees her,

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Speaker 2: He knows her story intimately. He knows that she is

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Speaker 2: When I'm reading the New Testament, and I look at

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is it's on your heart, you can give

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Speaker 2: to the Lord. He already knows that you have those things.

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Speaker 2: He already knows, and he's willing to shoulder them. But

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Speaker 2: because he wants relationship with you, he wants you to

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Speaker 2: share those burdens with him. I love this idea of

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Speaker 2: one thing that Sarah Young did with Genius is to

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Speaker 2: Lord wants us to connect with him. Every day, I'll

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Speaker 2: be reading from Jesus Listens by Sarah Young, November thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: Jesus, my Redeemer.

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Speaker 2: I long to experience more fully the riches of my salvation,

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Speaker 2: the joy of being loved.

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Speaker 1: Constantly and perfectly.

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Speaker 2: Instead of trying to fix myself, help me fix my

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Speaker 2: thoughts on You, the lover of my soul. Rather than

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Speaker 2: using my energy to judge myself, I need to redirect

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Speaker 2: it to communicating with you, trusting and praising you. I'm

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Speaker 2: so thankful that you view me wrapped in your righteousness,

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Speaker 2: radiant in your perfect love, in your Holy name.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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