1 00:00:08,165 --> 00:00:08,965 Speaker 1: Life audio. 2 00:00:11,565 --> 00:00:14,885 Speaker 2: When I had everything, everybody was there, But when I 3 00:00:14,925 --> 00:00:18,485 Speaker 2: had nothing, he was there. And see and that's because 4 00:00:18,525 --> 00:00:20,885 Speaker 2: I made a commitment. How do people get to that place? 5 00:00:21,285 --> 00:00:24,285 Speaker 2: You have to be persistent to go after God, and 6 00:00:24,325 --> 00:00:26,724 Speaker 2: you have to surrender yourself daily. 7 00:00:33,525 --> 00:00:38,165 Speaker 3: Daryl Strawberry is a genuine sports icon. Throughout his eighteen years, 8 00:00:38,485 --> 00:00:42,565 Speaker 3: he captured four World Series championships. He played with the Mets, 9 00:00:42,805 --> 00:00:46,165 Speaker 3: the Yankees, and the Dodgers. Well, you know, you were 10 00:00:46,205 --> 00:00:47,565 Speaker 3: living the dream. 11 00:00:47,765 --> 00:00:47,964 Speaker 1: You know. 12 00:00:48,525 --> 00:00:51,445 Speaker 3: It's like there's the expression I've been there, done that 13 00:00:51,485 --> 00:00:54,605 Speaker 3: about the T shirt. You were the T shirt. I 14 00:00:54,645 --> 00:00:58,125 Speaker 3: mean you were and you are an iconic figure. I 15 00:00:58,165 --> 00:01:00,765 Speaker 3: know because I've been in places with you and people 16 00:01:00,845 --> 00:01:03,445 Speaker 3: recognize you. You're tall guy, of course, But it's not 17 00:01:03,565 --> 00:01:06,845 Speaker 3: that it's like everybody knows who Daryl's Strawberry is. Even 18 00:01:06,885 --> 00:01:09,965 Speaker 3: people who aren't maybe big baseball fans, they still know 19 00:01:10,005 --> 00:01:13,365 Speaker 3: you because you've been on was that Celebrity Apprentice And 20 00:01:13,444 --> 00:01:14,605 Speaker 3: you've been all over the place. 21 00:01:14,645 --> 00:01:15,565 Speaker 1: You've been everywhere. 22 00:01:15,565 --> 00:01:20,244 Speaker 3: Man as Johnny Cash saying, so you literally lived the dream. 23 00:01:21,005 --> 00:01:23,565 Speaker 3: So there was a young Daryl who had the dreams, 24 00:01:23,925 --> 00:01:27,565 Speaker 3: perhaps to play pro baseball. I heard that you may 25 00:01:27,605 --> 00:01:30,085 Speaker 3: have had an interest in basketball as well, that you 26 00:01:30,084 --> 00:01:33,685 Speaker 3: were offered scholarships or basketball or Baseball's all right. 27 00:01:33,845 --> 00:01:35,645 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had an opportunity to go to college to 28 00:01:35,645 --> 00:01:39,765 Speaker 2: play basketball Oklahoma State, but I made a decision to 29 00:01:39,765 --> 00:01:40,405 Speaker 2: play baseball. 30 00:01:40,444 --> 00:01:41,645 Speaker 1: And why did you make that decision? 31 00:01:41,645 --> 00:01:46,285 Speaker 2: I was that young player probably had a dysfunction inside 32 00:01:46,285 --> 00:01:49,845 Speaker 2: because of the lifestyle that I grew up in at 33 00:01:49,845 --> 00:01:52,965 Speaker 2: home and everything and really broken. And I really never 34 00:01:53,125 --> 00:01:56,885 Speaker 2: got to identify myself as that young player. I just 35 00:01:56,965 --> 00:02:00,125 Speaker 2: knew that the pain of who I was led me 36 00:02:00,205 --> 00:02:04,165 Speaker 2: into my greatness, and then eventually my greatness would lead 37 00:02:04,205 --> 00:02:07,805 Speaker 2: me into the destructive be And the reason why I 38 00:02:07,845 --> 00:02:10,764 Speaker 2: talk about that because it's so important. Pain is real, 39 00:02:11,165 --> 00:02:12,525 Speaker 2: and I think a lot of times we push it 40 00:02:12,605 --> 00:02:16,965 Speaker 2: to the side. Being famous is hard, is not easy, 41 00:02:17,005 --> 00:02:19,725 Speaker 2: and I think people believe it's the greatest thing to 42 00:02:19,725 --> 00:02:24,085 Speaker 2: be famous. But when you reach that point, you're going 43 00:02:24,125 --> 00:02:25,965 Speaker 2: to usually stay in the house because everybody's going to 44 00:02:26,045 --> 00:02:28,365 Speaker 2: be looking for you. Everybody's going to be pulling at you, 45 00:02:28,405 --> 00:02:30,205 Speaker 2: and you don't You never know who's pulling at you 46 00:02:30,245 --> 00:02:33,685 Speaker 2: for the right reasons, right, So I experienced that, you know, 47 00:02:33,845 --> 00:02:38,605 Speaker 2: from a younger age, growing up in California and the 48 00:02:38,685 --> 00:02:41,445 Speaker 2: expectations of becoming this great baseball player. I had people 49 00:02:41,445 --> 00:02:44,205 Speaker 2: pulling at me when I was like seventeen, eighteen years 50 00:02:44,245 --> 00:02:47,405 Speaker 2: old at the beginning, you know, ages and everybody wanting 51 00:02:47,485 --> 00:02:49,965 Speaker 2: me at the time when I was young, and I 52 00:02:49,965 --> 00:02:53,365 Speaker 2: would go on to be you know, get drafted and 53 00:02:53,405 --> 00:02:56,285 Speaker 2: play Major League Baseball and then the same old things. 54 00:02:56,325 --> 00:02:58,805 Speaker 2: You know, the expectations were big, and you know, I 55 00:02:58,885 --> 00:03:01,965 Speaker 2: kind of fulfilled the expectations. But at the same time, 56 00:03:02,765 --> 00:03:05,245 Speaker 2: it was a lot to deal with because you really 57 00:03:05,245 --> 00:03:08,005 Speaker 2: don't have the identity of who you are because of 58 00:03:08,285 --> 00:03:09,525 Speaker 2: what everybody else wants you to be. 59 00:03:09,885 --> 00:03:11,525 Speaker 1: Right, Well, let me swow you down on that. 60 00:03:11,805 --> 00:03:15,245 Speaker 3: You talked about fame Derrell, because there's like a whole 61 00:03:15,285 --> 00:03:18,285 Speaker 3: generation of young people today that their goal in life 62 00:03:18,445 --> 00:03:20,965 Speaker 3: is to be famous. I read a survey that said 63 00:03:21,085 --> 00:03:23,845 Speaker 3: the vast majority of young people they want to be 64 00:03:24,005 --> 00:03:26,645 Speaker 3: rich and they want to be famous. I think it 65 00:03:26,685 --> 00:03:29,525 Speaker 3: was Andy Warhol that said years ago, they'll come a 66 00:03:29,725 --> 00:03:32,845 Speaker 3: time when everyone will be famous for fifteen minutes. So 67 00:03:32,965 --> 00:03:36,245 Speaker 3: you've been famous for longer than fifteen minutes. You've been 68 00:03:36,285 --> 00:03:40,285 Speaker 3: famous for years, and you've been there, You've experienced it, 69 00:03:40,765 --> 00:03:43,845 Speaker 3: you've had it. All is fame, all that it's cracked 70 00:03:43,925 --> 00:03:44,285 Speaker 3: up to be. 71 00:03:44,885 --> 00:03:47,325 Speaker 2: Well, be careful what you asked for. And I think 72 00:03:47,325 --> 00:03:50,325 Speaker 2: a lot of people asked about the fame and the 73 00:03:50,325 --> 00:03:53,045 Speaker 2: spotlight being on them and they don't realize the pressures 74 00:03:53,085 --> 00:03:55,445 Speaker 2: that come with it. The expectations and pressures are real. 75 00:03:55,725 --> 00:03:56,605 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are they? 76 00:03:56,925 --> 00:04:01,685 Speaker 2: I think, Well, just being a good person. Learning to 77 00:04:01,725 --> 00:04:03,405 Speaker 2: be a good person, because you're going to have to 78 00:04:03,445 --> 00:04:05,325 Speaker 2: deal with so many things. Yeah, you're gonna have to 79 00:04:05,325 --> 00:04:07,645 Speaker 2: do with learning how to deal playing sports. You're gonna 80 00:04:07,685 --> 00:04:10,405 Speaker 2: learn learn how to deal with people that don't like you. 81 00:04:10,405 --> 00:04:12,085 Speaker 2: You don't have to learn how to deal with the media. 82 00:04:12,205 --> 00:04:14,005 Speaker 2: You don't have to learn how to deal with fans 83 00:04:14,045 --> 00:04:17,725 Speaker 2: booing you. Uh, there's a lot that's like to. 84 00:04:17,685 --> 00:04:20,645 Speaker 3: Be in the field, to be booed by thousands of people. 85 00:04:20,964 --> 00:04:23,645 Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty good. And the reason why 86 00:04:23,685 --> 00:04:26,965 Speaker 2: I say that is because I realized that everybody recognized 87 00:04:26,965 --> 00:04:29,245 Speaker 2: I'm in the ballpark. So that's the way I kind 88 00:04:29,245 --> 00:04:31,365 Speaker 2: of viewed it and everything. And I think so many 89 00:04:31,765 --> 00:04:35,284 Speaker 2: athletes have a tendency of taking it in a negative 90 00:04:35,325 --> 00:04:38,525 Speaker 2: way and twisting it. And you know why the fans 91 00:04:38,205 --> 00:04:41,325 Speaker 2: boring me. They don't boo you if you're not good. 92 00:04:41,885 --> 00:04:43,605 Speaker 2: That's one thing I could tell you. You know, playing the 93 00:04:43,645 --> 00:04:45,525 Speaker 2: sports a baseball, you know they're gonna boo you, if 94 00:04:45,525 --> 00:04:48,604 Speaker 2: they're gonna bull you. That means that you're doing something 95 00:04:48,645 --> 00:04:52,565 Speaker 2: good that people appreciate. And also at the same time, 96 00:04:52,605 --> 00:04:55,245 Speaker 2: they appreciate when you screw up too. So I had 97 00:04:55,245 --> 00:04:56,365 Speaker 2: a lot of screw up. I made a lot of 98 00:04:56,445 --> 00:04:58,645 Speaker 2: errors in the outfield, and you know, I struck I would, 99 00:04:58,725 --> 00:05:02,805 Speaker 2: you know, type bait situations based situations. But I did 100 00:05:02,805 --> 00:05:05,045 Speaker 2: a lot of good too in those situations. So I 101 00:05:05,125 --> 00:05:08,485 Speaker 2: kind of realize that you have to balance yourself in 102 00:05:08,565 --> 00:05:10,325 Speaker 2: life when you become famous. 103 00:05:10,405 --> 00:05:10,965 Speaker 1: Yeah. 104 00:05:11,045 --> 00:05:14,605 Speaker 2: And the reason why I say that is you can't hide. Yeah, 105 00:05:14,645 --> 00:05:15,845 Speaker 2: you know, and I think a lot of times a 106 00:05:15,885 --> 00:05:20,605 Speaker 2: lot of celebrities hide out and they keep this secret 107 00:05:20,645 --> 00:05:23,365 Speaker 2: about they have it all together. None of us have 108 00:05:23,445 --> 00:05:24,885 Speaker 2: it all together. I could tell you that, right. Yeah. 109 00:05:24,885 --> 00:05:27,005 Speaker 3: And a lot of times they have an entourage around them, 110 00:05:27,165 --> 00:05:29,525 Speaker 3: a lot of people, you know, taking advantage of them. 111 00:05:29,565 --> 00:05:33,365 Speaker 3: We were talking earlier about Whitney Houston and Michael Jackson 112 00:05:33,765 --> 00:05:36,005 Speaker 3: and of course Elvis. You know, he's famous for his 113 00:05:36,325 --> 00:05:39,245 Speaker 3: entourage of people and almost like in an altered state 114 00:05:39,285 --> 00:05:42,285 Speaker 3: of reality. It's hard to just be a normal person. 115 00:05:42,365 --> 00:05:44,845 Speaker 3: On more than one occasion, I've seen someone who's had 116 00:05:44,885 --> 00:05:47,725 Speaker 3: a lot of fames say I kind of miss anonymity, 117 00:05:47,845 --> 00:05:49,845 Speaker 3: in other words, being able to walk down the street 118 00:05:50,125 --> 00:05:52,925 Speaker 3: by a Hamburger, you know, just be a normal person. 119 00:05:52,965 --> 00:05:54,125 Speaker 1: Did you ever feel that way? 120 00:05:54,605 --> 00:05:57,005 Speaker 2: I never felt that way because I think of growing 121 00:05:57,085 --> 00:05:59,365 Speaker 2: up in south central Los Angeles, so I didn't grow 122 00:05:59,405 --> 00:06:02,685 Speaker 2: up with fame around me, so I didn't really know 123 00:06:02,725 --> 00:06:04,725 Speaker 2: what it was all about. So I really kind of 124 00:06:04,725 --> 00:06:07,565 Speaker 2: like wanted to stay and be the same person when 125 00:06:07,565 --> 00:06:10,885 Speaker 2: I got there. I mean, my athletic skills actually took 126 00:06:10,925 --> 00:06:13,605 Speaker 2: me to a whole different level, and I never looked 127 00:06:13,605 --> 00:06:15,645 Speaker 2: at the fact that I needed a bunch of people 128 00:06:15,645 --> 00:06:17,685 Speaker 2: around me for what They wasn't there when I was 129 00:06:17,685 --> 00:06:19,965 Speaker 2: working out. I think a lot of times. 130 00:06:19,925 --> 00:06:22,205 Speaker 1: You're pretty levelheaded then when you were younger. 131 00:06:22,325 --> 00:06:24,885 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because I realized that they wasn't there when 132 00:06:24,885 --> 00:06:27,205 Speaker 2: I was doing the hard training and when I was 133 00:06:27,205 --> 00:06:28,885 Speaker 2: trying to get to where I need to get. I mean, 134 00:06:29,005 --> 00:06:31,685 Speaker 2: of course I have a lot of good friends and everything, 135 00:06:31,725 --> 00:06:34,285 Speaker 2: but my dear friends were the guys I was playing 136 00:06:34,325 --> 00:06:36,445 Speaker 2: baseball with I grew up with, you know, Eric Davis, 137 00:06:36,485 --> 00:06:38,885 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, you know, guys who were like brotherhood, you know, 138 00:06:39,045 --> 00:06:41,325 Speaker 2: grew up playing ball together. So we knew each other. 139 00:06:41,365 --> 00:06:44,125 Speaker 2: We we knew that we had each other back. So 140 00:06:44,445 --> 00:06:47,405 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that come along and say 141 00:06:47,445 --> 00:06:50,604 Speaker 2: they have your back, but they're really there for the ride. 142 00:06:50,645 --> 00:06:53,085 Speaker 2: Because I could tell you one thing that's it's a 143 00:06:53,125 --> 00:06:55,485 Speaker 2: great ride when you're in the midst of it because 144 00:06:55,525 --> 00:06:59,685 Speaker 2: everything is handed to you. I mean, you're millionaires and 145 00:06:59,725 --> 00:07:01,645 Speaker 2: you don't have to pay for nothing. I didn't realize that, 146 00:07:01,685 --> 00:07:03,125 Speaker 2: you know, playing in New York, that I could walk 147 00:07:03,125 --> 00:07:05,685 Speaker 2: in the store and that I was so talented, so 148 00:07:05,765 --> 00:07:08,765 Speaker 2: good that they would give me free jackets and free 149 00:07:08,845 --> 00:07:11,165 Speaker 2: clothes and suits and stuff like that. And I would 150 00:07:11,165 --> 00:07:13,805 Speaker 2: go have dinner and everybody would pay for my dinner. 151 00:07:13,845 --> 00:07:15,605 Speaker 2: And I was like, Wow, this is a pretty cool life. 152 00:07:15,605 --> 00:07:16,965 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I knew it was a 153 00:07:16,965 --> 00:07:17,685 Speaker 2: crazy life. 154 00:07:17,805 --> 00:07:20,805 Speaker 3: You mentioned growing up in South central Los Angeles. It 155 00:07:20,965 --> 00:07:22,645 Speaker 3: was ever a point as a young man when you 156 00:07:22,685 --> 00:07:25,405 Speaker 3: said one day I'm going to be a pro baseball 157 00:07:25,405 --> 00:07:28,045 Speaker 3: player or a pro basketball player, or did you have 158 00:07:28,125 --> 00:07:29,765 Speaker 3: dreams that big I did. 159 00:07:30,325 --> 00:07:33,005 Speaker 2: I knew that when I was fourteen years old. Yeah, 160 00:07:33,205 --> 00:07:36,165 Speaker 2: I had already put it in my heart. Yeah, you 161 00:07:36,205 --> 00:07:38,045 Speaker 2: know that I wasn't going to play baseball, you know, 162 00:07:38,085 --> 00:07:40,365 Speaker 2: because I used to watch the Dodgers in the Cincinnati 163 00:07:40,405 --> 00:07:43,245 Speaker 2: Reds on television and I saw this one player play 164 00:07:43,285 --> 00:07:45,845 Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Reds and his name was Pete Rose. 165 00:07:46,245 --> 00:07:49,405 Speaker 2: And I saw him. I saw his uniform and it 166 00:07:49,445 --> 00:07:51,525 Speaker 2: was always dirty, and I said, that's what a baseball 167 00:07:51,525 --> 00:07:53,725 Speaker 2: player looks like. I said, that's what I want to 168 00:07:53,765 --> 00:07:55,525 Speaker 2: do one day. I want to be a baseball player, 169 00:07:55,645 --> 00:07:57,965 Speaker 2: and I want to make sure that my uniform is dirty. 170 00:07:58,285 --> 00:08:00,845 Speaker 2: Pete Rose wasn't the most talented player on the team, 171 00:08:01,525 --> 00:08:04,605 Speaker 2: but he hustled. I would hustle everybody else on the team, 172 00:08:04,805 --> 00:08:07,365 Speaker 2: and that's what which is really all about. Can you 173 00:08:07,445 --> 00:08:11,245 Speaker 2: out hustle the next player. And I was just thrilled 174 00:08:11,245 --> 00:08:12,885 Speaker 2: to be able to see that when I saw Pete Rose, 175 00:08:12,925 --> 00:08:14,725 Speaker 2: and I realized that I wanted to do that. So 176 00:08:14,765 --> 00:08:17,365 Speaker 2: when I was fourteen years old, I just put it 177 00:08:17,365 --> 00:08:19,325 Speaker 2: in my heart and I told my sister one day, 178 00:08:19,365 --> 00:08:21,725 Speaker 2: I said I'm going to the pros. She thought I 179 00:08:21,765 --> 00:08:24,565 Speaker 2: was like kind of crazy. You know. It's like yeah, right, 180 00:08:24,605 --> 00:08:26,765 Speaker 2: you're gonna be playing baseball like those guys on TV. 181 00:08:27,005 --> 00:08:29,045 Speaker 2: I said, yes, I will one day be playing baseball 182 00:08:29,165 --> 00:08:30,005 Speaker 2: just like those guys. 183 00:08:30,325 --> 00:08:31,925 Speaker 1: Did your parents encourage you in this? 184 00:08:32,684 --> 00:08:37,005 Speaker 2: My mother did. My mother raised me right. I didn't 185 00:08:37,005 --> 00:08:39,205 Speaker 2: have a father. You know, my father rejected me, and 186 00:08:39,325 --> 00:08:42,085 Speaker 2: you know, I was a broken relationship. He left her 187 00:08:42,085 --> 00:08:44,685 Speaker 2: family for dead and he was gone. And my mother 188 00:08:44,765 --> 00:08:48,965 Speaker 2: raises right, and she raises under good principles. But I 189 00:08:49,085 --> 00:08:51,445 Speaker 2: made a decision. I made a decision to live a 190 00:08:51,445 --> 00:08:54,485 Speaker 2: heathen lifestyle. She didn't raise me that way. I'm paying 191 00:08:54,965 --> 00:08:57,645 Speaker 2: And when she passed away, I was so heartbroken because 192 00:08:57,725 --> 00:09:00,245 Speaker 2: I knew this woman raised me right, and why did 193 00:09:00,285 --> 00:09:02,405 Speaker 2: I go on and live this life? And I just 194 00:09:02,445 --> 00:09:04,965 Speaker 2: always thought it broke her heart. And she wasn't concerned 195 00:09:05,005 --> 00:09:06,565 Speaker 2: about my major league career. 196 00:09:06,685 --> 00:09:08,444 Speaker 1: My mother was a believer, was she was a believer. 197 00:09:08,565 --> 00:09:09,165 Speaker 2: She was sold off. 198 00:09:09,285 --> 00:09:11,285 Speaker 3: And I think people in heaven may know more than 199 00:09:11,325 --> 00:09:14,285 Speaker 3: we think they know on right now. And I think 200 00:09:14,285 --> 00:09:17,405 Speaker 3: that your mom is fully aware of your commitment you've 201 00:09:17,405 --> 00:09:19,285 Speaker 3: made to Christ and what you're doing for the Kingdom 202 00:09:19,285 --> 00:09:22,325 Speaker 3: of God. Because the Bible says every time a sinner 203 00:09:22,405 --> 00:09:26,565 Speaker 3: comes to repentance. There's rejoicing in the presence of the angels. 204 00:09:26,605 --> 00:09:30,165 Speaker 3: We usually did go it's the angels that are rejoicing. No, 205 00:09:30,285 --> 00:09:34,444 Speaker 3: maybe it's actually believers in heaven rejoicing with a full 206 00:09:34,525 --> 00:09:36,725 Speaker 3: knowledge of what's going on earth. So I think your 207 00:09:36,765 --> 00:09:39,085 Speaker 3: mom may be very aware of what you're doing for 208 00:09:39,125 --> 00:09:39,765 Speaker 3: God's kingdom. 209 00:09:39,925 --> 00:09:42,005 Speaker 2: I think so too. I mean, I think she always 210 00:09:42,325 --> 00:09:44,525 Speaker 2: knew that that would happen, because that was her prayer. 211 00:09:44,965 --> 00:09:47,805 Speaker 2: You know, when my sister found a journal under her bed, 212 00:09:47,845 --> 00:09:51,085 Speaker 2: she was praying to God save my kids. But she didn't. 213 00:09:51,405 --> 00:09:54,085 Speaker 2: She was concerned about Darrell Strawberry baseball players. She was 214 00:09:54,125 --> 00:09:57,684 Speaker 2: concerned about my salvation and not God knocking me off 215 00:09:57,685 --> 00:10:00,125 Speaker 2: of my throne and my ego and my pride of 216 00:10:00,205 --> 00:10:02,605 Speaker 2: being all this. And I thought I was all that 217 00:10:02,645 --> 00:10:05,045 Speaker 2: in the bag of chips. Yeah, and Mom was. You know, 218 00:10:05,525 --> 00:10:07,605 Speaker 2: they don't think that way. They think of you as 219 00:10:08,245 --> 00:10:12,684 Speaker 2: I raise you, and I raise you right. Treat people right. 220 00:10:12,885 --> 00:10:16,405 Speaker 2: That's the thing that she gave to us is treat 221 00:10:16,405 --> 00:10:18,285 Speaker 2: people the way you want to be treated, you know. 222 00:10:18,805 --> 00:10:22,405 Speaker 3: So, Darryl, when people reach this pinnacle that you've been 223 00:10:22,445 --> 00:10:25,245 Speaker 3: to and they have wealth, they have fame, they have 224 00:10:25,325 --> 00:10:29,005 Speaker 3: it all, and then they're so empty. Why is that? 225 00:10:29,085 --> 00:10:31,485 Speaker 3: I think people who have not experienced that fame have 226 00:10:31,565 --> 00:10:32,925 Speaker 3: a hard time understanding it. 227 00:10:33,005 --> 00:10:35,285 Speaker 2: Tell us why, well, I think the most important thing 228 00:10:35,365 --> 00:10:38,325 Speaker 2: is you go along and you accumulate all these things 229 00:10:38,325 --> 00:10:41,045 Speaker 2: that you think will make you well, and they're just things. 230 00:10:41,085 --> 00:10:43,205 Speaker 2: At the end of the day. You buy a beautiful home, 231 00:10:43,685 --> 00:10:47,605 Speaker 2: you live behind community gates, drive the nice car, you 232 00:10:47,645 --> 00:10:50,045 Speaker 2: have plenty of money to buy whatever kind of clothes 233 00:10:50,085 --> 00:10:52,525 Speaker 2: you need and whatever kind of stuff you need. But 234 00:10:53,045 --> 00:10:55,965 Speaker 2: what it does is only satisfied the outside of what 235 00:10:56,045 --> 00:10:58,925 Speaker 2: you look like. And I think we don't realize that 236 00:10:59,245 --> 00:11:02,765 Speaker 2: the creation for us on the inside was created for 237 00:11:02,885 --> 00:11:06,045 Speaker 2: God himself to fill that empty void on the inside 238 00:11:06,045 --> 00:11:08,165 Speaker 2: of every last one of us. That's why you see 239 00:11:08,205 --> 00:11:12,325 Speaker 2: so many celebrities struggle so much with life, because you know, 240 00:11:12,325 --> 00:11:14,725 Speaker 2: we achieve all these earthly things. But at the end 241 00:11:14,765 --> 00:11:17,365 Speaker 2: of the day, when I take that uniform all and 242 00:11:17,445 --> 00:11:21,925 Speaker 2: I go home, who am I? That's the question I 243 00:11:21,925 --> 00:11:25,605 Speaker 2: think a lot of us asked ourselves. Yes, I've achieved 244 00:11:25,605 --> 00:11:28,285 Speaker 2: so much fame and fortune, but at the end of 245 00:11:28,285 --> 00:11:31,285 Speaker 2: the day, who am I really? And then I think 246 00:11:31,325 --> 00:11:33,885 Speaker 2: a lot of times I useduld think that what's the 247 00:11:33,925 --> 00:11:36,645 Speaker 2: purpose of my life? You know, because I'm very talented 248 00:11:36,725 --> 00:11:40,005 Speaker 2: to play sports, But that's not the purpose of my life. 249 00:11:40,205 --> 00:11:43,245 Speaker 2: Because I think we don't realize at the time when 250 00:11:43,245 --> 00:11:45,725 Speaker 2: we're playing and we're accumulating all this stuff, that's the 251 00:11:45,805 --> 00:11:48,605 Speaker 2: great that one day all this is going to come 252 00:11:48,605 --> 00:11:52,765 Speaker 2: to an end. And if you don't identify yourself as 253 00:11:52,765 --> 00:11:56,005 Speaker 2: the real person, then you're still lost. You still consume 254 00:11:56,765 --> 00:11:58,805 Speaker 2: with all this other stuff, and you stay in this 255 00:11:58,845 --> 00:12:01,645 Speaker 2: particular place where you want to be well? But how 256 00:12:01,645 --> 00:12:03,444 Speaker 2: do I give well? And I think so many of 257 00:12:03,525 --> 00:12:04,005 Speaker 2: us miss that? 258 00:12:04,285 --> 00:12:07,564 Speaker 3: So what is the purpose of a person's life? Why 259 00:12:07,605 --> 00:12:09,885 Speaker 3: are we hearing this earth? Why don't we exist well? 260 00:12:10,205 --> 00:12:12,725 Speaker 3: I believe that God had created us all for good. 261 00:12:13,645 --> 00:12:15,565 Speaker 3: I don't think none of us was supposed to come 262 00:12:15,605 --> 00:12:19,045 Speaker 3: here and be bad. I think the door was open, 263 00:12:19,165 --> 00:12:21,005 Speaker 3: you know, from the beginning of the Book of Genesis. 264 00:12:21,005 --> 00:12:23,325 Speaker 3: I think, and I believe that sets the door for 265 00:12:23,365 --> 00:12:25,925 Speaker 3: all of us to fall short. But I think at 266 00:12:25,965 --> 00:12:29,365 Speaker 3: the same time he created us to come back to him. 267 00:12:29,765 --> 00:12:32,445 Speaker 3: And when we do really truly come back to him 268 00:12:32,765 --> 00:12:35,765 Speaker 3: and we surrender ourselves to him, then there's a great 269 00:12:35,885 --> 00:12:41,245 Speaker 3: purpose of him using every person every platform because I'm 270 00:12:41,245 --> 00:12:43,165 Speaker 3: not gonna be able to reach everybody. You're not gonna 271 00:12:43,165 --> 00:12:45,564 Speaker 3: be able to reach everybody, but somebody else will be 272 00:12:45,605 --> 00:12:48,565 Speaker 3: able to reach another person if we stand in the 273 00:12:48,605 --> 00:12:50,885 Speaker 3: right principles. And I think that's what it was always 274 00:12:50,925 --> 00:12:53,965 Speaker 3: created for. And I think we just end up falling short. 275 00:12:54,085 --> 00:12:56,964 Speaker 3: And when you end up falling short in that lifestyle, 276 00:12:57,925 --> 00:13:00,405 Speaker 3: you get kind of embedded in it and it's really 277 00:13:00,405 --> 00:13:00,965 Speaker 3: hard to get. 278 00:13:00,805 --> 00:13:02,965 Speaker 2: Out because it gets ugly. Like my lifestyle, it got 279 00:13:02,965 --> 00:13:04,405 Speaker 2: real ugly. Tell us about that. 280 00:13:04,565 --> 00:13:07,005 Speaker 3: I know you've had issues the drugs and you were 281 00:13:07,085 --> 00:13:08,564 Speaker 3: arrested and what happened. 282 00:13:09,285 --> 00:13:10,925 Speaker 2: I mean, I just had all kind of behaviors. I 283 00:13:11,205 --> 00:13:13,205 Speaker 2: turned out to be just like my father. I became 284 00:13:13,365 --> 00:13:16,805 Speaker 2: very abusive to my first wife and second wife. I 285 00:13:16,885 --> 00:13:19,045 Speaker 2: never abused my kids because I love my kids because 286 00:13:19,085 --> 00:13:21,925 Speaker 2: I was abused, but I became an alcoholic. I mean 287 00:13:21,965 --> 00:13:24,685 Speaker 2: I became a drug addict. You know, the drugs consume me. 288 00:13:25,405 --> 00:13:27,645 Speaker 2: I ended up taking in feto me. He's playing baseball 289 00:13:27,725 --> 00:13:30,444 Speaker 2: every day. To be wired out there playing baseball. It's 290 00:13:30,485 --> 00:13:34,605 Speaker 2: just so many things that we try to feel that's 291 00:13:34,605 --> 00:13:37,445 Speaker 2: on the inside, that's empty with all other type of 292 00:13:37,445 --> 00:13:39,605 Speaker 2: things to make us well, and it never makes us well. 293 00:13:39,685 --> 00:13:42,445 Speaker 2: It seems like I'm doing well for a period of time, 294 00:13:42,805 --> 00:13:44,525 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, I really still can't get 295 00:13:44,525 --> 00:13:46,525 Speaker 2: out of this dark hole, because there is a real 296 00:13:46,605 --> 00:13:49,485 Speaker 2: dark hole and a dark tunnel that people go through 297 00:13:49,965 --> 00:13:53,965 Speaker 2: and up. You end up becoming that something that you 298 00:13:54,205 --> 00:13:56,365 Speaker 2: had said to yourself that I would never become. I 299 00:13:56,405 --> 00:13:58,845 Speaker 2: said I would never become like my dad, and guess 300 00:13:58,845 --> 00:14:00,805 Speaker 2: what I became Just likely No. 301 00:14:00,845 --> 00:14:06,684 Speaker 3: I interviewed Alice Cooper, and his wife basically said to him, 302 00:14:06,685 --> 00:14:07,365 Speaker 3: I'm done with you. 303 00:14:07,485 --> 00:14:09,405 Speaker 1: He was, you know, strung out of drugs. He had 304 00:14:09,445 --> 00:14:10,725 Speaker 1: a uh he. 305 00:14:10,685 --> 00:14:13,765 Speaker 3: Had cocaine the size of a softball, and he was 306 00:14:13,805 --> 00:14:16,805 Speaker 3: starting it and he looked in the mirror and he 307 00:14:16,885 --> 00:14:19,005 Speaker 3: saw what he thought was blood coming out of his eyes. 308 00:14:19,045 --> 00:14:20,325 Speaker 1: He says, now, I don't. 309 00:14:20,125 --> 00:14:22,565 Speaker 3: Know if it was a hallucination from his reel, but 310 00:14:22,645 --> 00:14:25,005 Speaker 3: he was messed up and that was his wake up call. 311 00:14:25,125 --> 00:14:28,765 Speaker 3: So God used his wife to wake him up. And 312 00:14:28,885 --> 00:14:32,605 Speaker 3: God used your wife, was she your wife at the time, Tracy, 313 00:14:32,765 --> 00:14:34,525 Speaker 3: to kind of get your attention as well? 314 00:14:34,725 --> 00:14:36,445 Speaker 2: Well, she wasn't my wife at that time, but I 315 00:14:36,485 --> 00:14:39,445 Speaker 2: knew she was like putting my life for a reason, 316 00:14:40,165 --> 00:14:41,885 Speaker 2: because she was pulling me out of dope houses and 317 00:14:41,925 --> 00:14:44,165 Speaker 2: I was shooting dope and smoking crack, and soft thoughterer 318 00:14:44,565 --> 00:14:47,805 Speaker 2: she was banging on doors, She's pulling me out, saying, 319 00:14:47,845 --> 00:14:49,885 Speaker 2: God's got a plan for you. I says, well, I 320 00:14:49,965 --> 00:14:51,445 Speaker 2: want you and that guy just leave me here and 321 00:14:51,485 --> 00:14:54,005 Speaker 2: let me die. She goes, You're just not that lucky, 322 00:14:54,605 --> 00:14:56,765 Speaker 2: And I thought to myself, Oh, she's crazier than I 323 00:14:56,805 --> 00:15:00,285 Speaker 2: am to be able to do that. And then God 324 00:15:00,325 --> 00:15:03,885 Speaker 2: would eventually use her to bring me back full circle 325 00:15:03,965 --> 00:15:06,765 Speaker 2: into church and be restored. And the reason why I 326 00:15:06,765 --> 00:15:10,565 Speaker 2: say use her there was nothing that she really did, 327 00:15:10,605 --> 00:15:13,245 Speaker 2: but she was done with me. But her life was 328 00:15:13,285 --> 00:15:17,765 Speaker 2: a complete example of living for Christ. She was studying 329 00:15:17,805 --> 00:15:20,525 Speaker 2: the Bible every day. She wakes up every morning at 330 00:15:20,605 --> 00:15:22,565 Speaker 2: five thirty to go be with God. She rolls out 331 00:15:22,605 --> 00:15:24,565 Speaker 2: of that bed, and I mean she did that for 332 00:15:24,605 --> 00:15:27,125 Speaker 2: like nineteen years, twenty years that we've been together and 333 00:15:27,205 --> 00:15:29,885 Speaker 2: stuff like that, and she never missed a beat, you know. 334 00:15:30,205 --> 00:15:34,085 Speaker 2: And boy, I was watching her and I was amazed. 335 00:15:34,165 --> 00:15:37,525 Speaker 2: I was like, well, why she knows so much about God? 336 00:15:38,125 --> 00:15:40,045 Speaker 2: And God spoke to me one day and says, because 337 00:15:40,085 --> 00:15:43,325 Speaker 2: she spends time with me a man. I was just 338 00:15:43,565 --> 00:15:45,525 Speaker 2: I went into tears and just cried, and God says, 339 00:15:45,525 --> 00:15:48,045 Speaker 2: when are you gonna spend time with me? And that's 340 00:15:48,085 --> 00:15:50,525 Speaker 2: when I really realized that I needed to go spend 341 00:15:50,605 --> 00:15:53,085 Speaker 2: time and get into a relationship because she was in 342 00:15:53,085 --> 00:15:56,725 Speaker 2: a relationship with God, you know. And I was impressed 343 00:15:56,765 --> 00:15:59,165 Speaker 2: with the fact that it wasn't about me. It wasn't 344 00:15:59,205 --> 00:16:01,605 Speaker 2: about I didn't have nothing anyway when we met. You know, 345 00:16:01,685 --> 00:16:03,805 Speaker 2: people need to know that I was three million dollars 346 00:16:03,845 --> 00:16:06,005 Speaker 2: in debt. I didn't even have a driver's life. So 347 00:16:06,805 --> 00:16:08,925 Speaker 2: what does she want with me? You know? She says 348 00:16:08,965 --> 00:16:11,045 Speaker 2: she saw something in me, She saw the good in 349 00:16:11,125 --> 00:16:13,685 Speaker 2: me that I probably didn't see in me. And God 350 00:16:13,765 --> 00:16:15,725 Speaker 2: would use her eventually and it would bring me full 351 00:16:15,765 --> 00:16:17,925 Speaker 2: circle and I would go on to get back in 352 00:16:18,005 --> 00:16:19,725 Speaker 2: church and get disciple with her and get my life 353 00:16:19,805 --> 00:16:20,925 Speaker 2: transform and change forever. 354 00:16:21,085 --> 00:16:23,445 Speaker 3: So someone was listening to you right now, and they're 355 00:16:23,525 --> 00:16:25,965 Speaker 3: trying to fill a hole in their heart with things. 356 00:16:27,165 --> 00:16:30,565 Speaker 3: Maybe get a few more followers on social media, maybe 357 00:16:30,685 --> 00:16:34,085 Speaker 3: get this object, maybe get this job, maybe have whatever 358 00:16:34,165 --> 00:16:36,445 Speaker 3: it is they think is going to fix it. And 359 00:16:36,565 --> 00:16:40,205 Speaker 3: you're saying it's all about a relationship with God. Tell 360 00:16:40,325 --> 00:16:42,805 Speaker 3: a person watching right now how they can come into 361 00:16:42,885 --> 00:16:44,725 Speaker 3: that relationship with God through Christ. 362 00:16:45,245 --> 00:16:47,125 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just want to say this first. I 363 00:16:47,205 --> 00:16:50,605 Speaker 2: think so many people are impressed with your success, but 364 00:16:50,725 --> 00:16:54,085 Speaker 2: they can be impacted by your failures. And I think 365 00:16:54,205 --> 00:16:57,125 Speaker 2: my failures was a prime example of because they were 366 00:16:57,125 --> 00:16:59,725 Speaker 2: impressed with my success, but my failures would go on 367 00:16:59,885 --> 00:17:03,645 Speaker 2: to impact people life because of coming into a real 368 00:17:03,725 --> 00:17:07,085 Speaker 2: relationship with Christ. And I'm talking about real surrender yourself 369 00:17:07,205 --> 00:17:10,124 Speaker 2: and denying yourself and picking up your cross and carrying 370 00:17:10,165 --> 00:17:13,004 Speaker 2: your cross daily, and which is gonna be hard. 371 00:17:13,165 --> 00:17:16,244 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Your cross? What does that that means? 372 00:17:16,324 --> 00:17:18,685 Speaker 2: That means you have to change from all these worldly things. 373 00:17:19,284 --> 00:17:21,004 Speaker 1: You have to take a worldly thing to find us? 374 00:17:21,044 --> 00:17:23,965 Speaker 2: What worldly thing that drives you? If I'm if I'm 375 00:17:24,004 --> 00:17:26,764 Speaker 2: impressed with the car, you know, I need to not 376 00:17:26,925 --> 00:17:29,445 Speaker 2: be impressed with the car anymore. If I'm impressed with 377 00:17:29,524 --> 00:17:32,004 Speaker 2: the house, I need not to be impressed with the house. 378 00:17:32,244 --> 00:17:35,205 Speaker 2: If I'm impressed with my bank account, then I need 379 00:17:35,324 --> 00:17:37,644 Speaker 2: not to be impressed with that. Just there, But it 380 00:17:37,804 --> 00:17:41,564 Speaker 2: does not drive me. What drives me is having communion 381 00:17:41,645 --> 00:17:44,324 Speaker 2: with God, you know, and being in a relationship talking 382 00:17:44,365 --> 00:17:48,044 Speaker 2: to God. Waking up my mornings is like such an urgency. 383 00:17:48,125 --> 00:17:50,244 Speaker 2: Every time I wake up, I get up and I 384 00:17:50,604 --> 00:17:52,645 Speaker 2: put on worship music because I love God so much 385 00:17:53,044 --> 00:17:54,925 Speaker 2: and I just want to I just want to tell 386 00:17:54,965 --> 00:17:57,205 Speaker 2: them thank you, you know, because of the fact that 387 00:17:58,084 --> 00:18:01,324 Speaker 2: when I had everything, everybody was there, but when I 388 00:18:01,445 --> 00:18:04,965 Speaker 2: had nothing, he was there and see, and that's because 389 00:18:04,965 --> 00:18:07,924 Speaker 2: I made a me me. And how do people get 390 00:18:07,965 --> 00:18:10,364 Speaker 2: to that place? You have to be persistent to go 391 00:18:10,484 --> 00:18:15,044 Speaker 2: after God, and you have to surrender yourself daily. People 392 00:18:15,165 --> 00:18:18,605 Speaker 2: don't surrender themselves daily. They just wake up and think, oh, 393 00:18:19,365 --> 00:18:23,324 Speaker 2: it's another day. It's good. Life is good. But I 394 00:18:23,484 --> 00:18:26,164 Speaker 2: learned to surrender myself daily because what I start preparing 395 00:18:26,244 --> 00:18:28,605 Speaker 2: for the storms of life. Because the storms of life 396 00:18:28,604 --> 00:18:31,044 Speaker 2: are real. Either you're in a storm or storms on 397 00:18:31,125 --> 00:18:32,764 Speaker 2: the way, or you coming out of a storm. So 398 00:18:33,044 --> 00:18:35,324 Speaker 2: I'm prepared either way. If I'm in a storm, I'm prepared. 399 00:18:36,044 --> 00:18:37,964 Speaker 2: If I'm coming out of the storm, I'm prepared. If 400 00:18:38,004 --> 00:18:40,484 Speaker 2: a storm's on the way, I'm always prepared because I 401 00:18:40,564 --> 00:18:43,564 Speaker 2: worship God and I thank God as Lord and Savior. 402 00:18:43,764 --> 00:18:47,084 Speaker 3: Now you're a raising Central Los Angeles right if an 403 00:18:47,125 --> 00:18:51,764 Speaker 3: older Daryl Strawberry could speak to a younger Daryl, what 404 00:18:51,885 --> 00:18:52,965 Speaker 3: would you say to yourself? 405 00:18:53,205 --> 00:18:55,764 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a good question, you know, to say, sit 406 00:18:55,844 --> 00:18:57,725 Speaker 2: here and know you know the kind of wisdom and 407 00:18:57,804 --> 00:19:00,325 Speaker 2: knowledge I have at this point. What would I tell 408 00:19:00,324 --> 00:19:02,605 Speaker 2: a younger me is to listen to your mother. 409 00:19:03,044 --> 00:19:04,604 Speaker 1: Huh, good advice. 410 00:19:05,125 --> 00:19:08,964 Speaker 2: I mean it's plain and simple because when you live 411 00:19:09,004 --> 00:19:10,804 Speaker 2: in a household and you come from a broken home, 412 00:19:11,244 --> 00:19:14,965 Speaker 2: you only have one parent and mom is usually the 413 00:19:15,044 --> 00:19:18,405 Speaker 2: one there. So if you don't listen, you're gonna e 414 00:19:18,484 --> 00:19:22,524 Speaker 2: basically be a fly off the wall. You know. It's 415 00:19:22,564 --> 00:19:25,244 Speaker 2: just like trying to catch that fly and you're taking 416 00:19:25,284 --> 00:19:26,884 Speaker 2: that swater and hitting that and you can't catch it, 417 00:19:26,965 --> 00:19:29,084 Speaker 2: you know. And that's the same thing it was for me. 418 00:19:29,165 --> 00:19:32,604 Speaker 2: You couldn't catch me because I wasn't listening. And the 419 00:19:33,645 --> 00:19:36,244 Speaker 2: way I see life today and what I realized the 420 00:19:36,365 --> 00:19:38,645 Speaker 2: importance of what she was telling me, you know, came 421 00:19:38,725 --> 00:19:42,084 Speaker 2: the pass of who I am today because had I 422 00:19:42,205 --> 00:19:43,925 Speaker 2: listened back then, I could have saved myself for a 423 00:19:43,965 --> 00:19:47,605 Speaker 2: lot of headaches. See that, younger person, don't think you're 424 00:19:47,604 --> 00:19:50,205 Speaker 2: gonna go through some things. And I always tell young 425 00:19:50,244 --> 00:19:54,525 Speaker 2: people you can pick your sins, but you cannot pick 426 00:19:54,645 --> 00:19:59,244 Speaker 2: your consequences. There's a real reality behind the consequences that's 427 00:19:59,284 --> 00:20:01,404 Speaker 2: gonna come. They're gonna catch up with you. You can 428 00:20:01,445 --> 00:20:03,764 Speaker 2: pick your sins all day, do what you want all day. 429 00:20:03,925 --> 00:20:06,484 Speaker 2: Say this is the way life is. The consequences are 430 00:20:06,524 --> 00:20:07,164 Speaker 2: real when they come. 431 00:20:08,844 --> 00:20:10,884 Speaker 3: Dren, What do you think motivates people to want to 432 00:20:10,965 --> 00:20:13,404 Speaker 3: be famous? I don't think it's just to see your 433 00:20:13,484 --> 00:20:15,684 Speaker 3: name in lights or on a baseball card, in your 434 00:20:15,804 --> 00:20:18,364 Speaker 3: case or whatever it might be here you're sung on 435 00:20:18,405 --> 00:20:21,004 Speaker 3: the radio, or to have a World Series ring like 436 00:20:21,125 --> 00:20:21,884 Speaker 3: you have three of. 437 00:20:24,205 --> 00:20:25,524 Speaker 1: What is it that drives us? 438 00:20:25,685 --> 00:20:27,884 Speaker 3: Is this a desire to be seen, to be noticed, 439 00:20:27,965 --> 00:20:30,084 Speaker 3: to be affirmed, to be appreciated. 440 00:20:30,205 --> 00:20:32,084 Speaker 2: What do you think? I think the desire is that 441 00:20:32,284 --> 00:20:34,844 Speaker 2: you see it, and you look at it and it 442 00:20:34,925 --> 00:20:37,524 Speaker 2: looks great. You know, it looks great from a standpoint. 443 00:20:37,604 --> 00:20:39,285 Speaker 2: You know. When I was a kid and watching Major 444 00:20:39,365 --> 00:20:42,445 Speaker 2: League Baseball and television, it's like, wow, you know, that 445 00:20:42,564 --> 00:20:45,044 Speaker 2: looks exciting, you know, And then I watch teams win 446 00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:47,244 Speaker 2: and watch teams lose and see the guys on the 447 00:20:47,324 --> 00:20:49,205 Speaker 2: other side crying, and I was like, I never want 448 00:20:49,244 --> 00:20:51,205 Speaker 2: to be on that losing end, because that's a hard feeling, 449 00:20:52,004 --> 00:20:56,484 Speaker 2: and I think the desire comes from different backgrounds. I 450 00:20:56,564 --> 00:21:00,965 Speaker 2: think some people come from broken backgrounds and they strive 451 00:21:01,965 --> 00:21:05,125 Speaker 2: to be better coming out of those situations. I think 452 00:21:05,165 --> 00:21:08,364 Speaker 2: for me, I was striving to be better. You know. 453 00:21:08,445 --> 00:21:10,685 Speaker 2: I wanted to be better than my father. I wanted 454 00:21:10,725 --> 00:21:14,604 Speaker 2: to prove that he was wrong about me, that he 455 00:21:14,764 --> 00:21:18,685 Speaker 2: was wrong about my family, because we knew that we 456 00:21:18,804 --> 00:21:21,925 Speaker 2: had the sweetest mother and it was just heartbreaking to 457 00:21:22,004 --> 00:21:25,244 Speaker 2: see the abuse that she had to go through because 458 00:21:25,244 --> 00:21:27,644 Speaker 2: he was an alcoholic and he was raising alcoholic. And 459 00:21:28,205 --> 00:21:30,165 Speaker 2: I was like, man, I just I want to take 460 00:21:30,165 --> 00:21:32,364 Speaker 2: care of my mother. I don't ever want her to 461 00:21:32,445 --> 00:21:34,725 Speaker 2: feel like that, you know. You know I used to 462 00:21:34,804 --> 00:21:36,325 Speaker 2: cry at night and I used to lay my head 463 00:21:36,365 --> 00:21:38,004 Speaker 2: in the pillow and I said, I'm going to play 464 00:21:38,004 --> 00:21:40,644 Speaker 2: Major League baseball, I'm gonna get rich, and I'm going 465 00:21:40,725 --> 00:21:42,125 Speaker 2: to take care of my mother. And that's the only 466 00:21:42,165 --> 00:21:44,244 Speaker 2: thing I wanted to do. I wasn't concerned about taking 467 00:21:44,284 --> 00:21:46,365 Speaker 2: care of myself or anything. I just wanted to take 468 00:21:46,405 --> 00:21:48,364 Speaker 2: care of her because she took care of us. 469 00:21:49,044 --> 00:21:51,124 Speaker 3: You know, the Bible says God has said eternity in 470 00:21:51,205 --> 00:21:54,604 Speaker 3: our hearts, and I think from the earliest moments of 471 00:21:54,685 --> 00:21:58,725 Speaker 3: our life. We're looking, we're searching, we're hopefully for something 472 00:21:58,804 --> 00:22:02,844 Speaker 3: more in life. So my life contrast to yours. You know, 473 00:22:02,885 --> 00:22:04,685 Speaker 3: I didn't have a dad growing up. My mom was 474 00:22:04,725 --> 00:22:07,884 Speaker 3: married in divorce seven times. She was a raging alcoholic. 475 00:22:08,004 --> 00:22:10,044 Speaker 3: So in my case, it wasn't a good idea to 476 00:22:10,125 --> 00:22:13,044 Speaker 3: listen to my mother. But there were other role models 477 00:22:13,084 --> 00:22:15,725 Speaker 3: in my life that I could look to that appointed 478 00:22:15,844 --> 00:22:19,004 Speaker 3: me in the right direction. But it's weird, despite the 479 00:22:19,125 --> 00:22:22,324 Speaker 3: fact that it was never really encouraged, you know, to 480 00:22:22,524 --> 00:22:25,124 Speaker 3: do this. I had a feeling that one day my 481 00:22:25,284 --> 00:22:27,284 Speaker 3: life was going to count and I was going to 482 00:22:27,365 --> 00:22:29,845 Speaker 3: make a difference. I didn't put that in me. There's 483 00:22:29,925 --> 00:22:31,805 Speaker 3: no reason that should have been in me. I think 484 00:22:31,885 --> 00:22:33,845 Speaker 3: God put it in me, and I think God put 485 00:22:33,885 --> 00:22:34,244 Speaker 3: it in you. 486 00:22:34,725 --> 00:22:37,205 Speaker 2: I think God puts it in everybody. You know, everybody's 487 00:22:37,244 --> 00:22:40,244 Speaker 2: not going to be a talented athlete and everybody's not 488 00:22:40,365 --> 00:22:44,364 Speaker 2: going to be a musician. There's always a gift that 489 00:22:44,445 --> 00:22:47,564 Speaker 2: God gives to everybody. And I think he gives you 490 00:22:47,645 --> 00:22:49,925 Speaker 2: the gift that he does not reverse it, and he 491 00:22:50,044 --> 00:22:53,364 Speaker 2: keeps it there until you're ready to allow the gift 492 00:22:53,685 --> 00:22:56,165 Speaker 2: to flourish. And I think a lot of times we 493 00:22:56,244 --> 00:22:58,685 Speaker 2: don't know when that's going to happen. Some people never 494 00:22:58,925 --> 00:23:02,564 Speaker 2: reach that destiny because I think they get comfortable with 495 00:23:02,764 --> 00:23:05,685 Speaker 2: being who they are instead of who He is. And 496 00:23:05,965 --> 00:23:08,685 Speaker 2: that's why I see a lot of athletes who could 497 00:23:08,725 --> 00:23:11,124 Speaker 2: never get to that place of having a relationship with 498 00:23:11,324 --> 00:23:13,965 Speaker 2: Christ because they won't take the uniform all. They want 499 00:23:14,004 --> 00:23:16,524 Speaker 2: to wear it, you know, till till they die, I guess. 500 00:23:16,844 --> 00:23:18,524 Speaker 2: And then that's the wrong way that that's the wrong 501 00:23:18,564 --> 00:23:20,445 Speaker 2: way to see it. You know, you don't want to 502 00:23:20,484 --> 00:23:21,884 Speaker 2: wear it till you die. You want to wear it 503 00:23:21,925 --> 00:23:25,444 Speaker 2: till you can't play anymore. And you physically remove yourself 504 00:23:25,484 --> 00:23:28,004 Speaker 2: from that place. Then you say to yourself, Okay, who 505 00:23:28,125 --> 00:23:31,764 Speaker 2: am I now? What is the next chapter of my life? 506 00:23:31,844 --> 00:23:32,564 Speaker 1: So who are you now? 507 00:23:33,844 --> 00:23:36,405 Speaker 2: This is the greatest chapter of my life. You know 508 00:23:36,564 --> 00:23:40,365 Speaker 2: the privilege that it is to work for the Lord 509 00:23:41,125 --> 00:23:44,645 Speaker 2: to know that I'm not qualified, but He qualifies you too, 510 00:23:44,804 --> 00:23:48,365 Speaker 2: and he equips you to do his work. It's incredible. 511 00:23:48,445 --> 00:23:51,045 Speaker 2: Man cannot do that, passor Greg. You know that man 512 00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:53,804 Speaker 2: can say he made you, or he can say this 513 00:23:54,004 --> 00:23:58,004 Speaker 2: about you, but he cannot do what God does when 514 00:23:58,044 --> 00:24:01,405 Speaker 2: he takes a life and transform it and equips it 515 00:24:01,804 --> 00:24:04,405 Speaker 2: for him, because he equips it for him so that 516 00:24:04,524 --> 00:24:06,925 Speaker 2: you can go out there and a living testimony so 517 00:24:07,165 --> 00:24:09,844 Speaker 2: others can come and have salvation just like you. 518 00:24:10,004 --> 00:24:13,244 Speaker 3: You know, so many famous people in every field turn 519 00:24:13,284 --> 00:24:16,324 Speaker 3: the drugs. Sometimes they have drug overdose says. Sometimes they 520 00:24:16,445 --> 00:24:18,844 Speaker 3: take their own lives. What would you say to someone 521 00:24:18,925 --> 00:24:22,084 Speaker 3: right now who feels like my life doesn't matter, nobody 522 00:24:22,165 --> 00:24:25,725 Speaker 3: cares about me, The world would be better off without me. 523 00:24:26,084 --> 00:24:28,244 Speaker 1: I don't want to live any longer. What would you 524 00:24:28,324 --> 00:24:29,004 Speaker 1: say to that, Well. 525 00:24:28,925 --> 00:24:31,564 Speaker 2: I would say that's a deception from the enemy, because 526 00:24:31,564 --> 00:24:34,164 Speaker 2: that's what he's clearly here for you, the devil himself. 527 00:24:34,244 --> 00:24:36,524 Speaker 2: He's clearly here to deceive us, make us believe that 528 00:24:37,084 --> 00:24:39,725 Speaker 2: we don't matter. And that's been a lie from the beginning. 529 00:24:39,764 --> 00:24:42,205 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people fall into that. 530 00:24:42,564 --> 00:24:47,925 Speaker 2: And the drugs, alcohol, the women, the lifestyle keeps them 531 00:24:48,564 --> 00:24:52,764 Speaker 2: separated from coming in and being turned into what God 532 00:24:52,885 --> 00:24:56,445 Speaker 2: created them to be. Because I knew. I think, deep 533 00:24:56,524 --> 00:24:59,444 Speaker 2: down inside of ourselves, we know that's not who we are. 534 00:24:59,925 --> 00:25:02,284 Speaker 2: But why am I doing this? Because we think, oh, well, 535 00:25:02,365 --> 00:25:05,244 Speaker 2: this is just the way life is. But in real reality, 536 00:25:05,284 --> 00:25:08,044 Speaker 2: that it's not the way it really is. It becomes 537 00:25:08,205 --> 00:25:13,525 Speaker 2: like that because of the expectations, the pressure performing. If 538 00:25:13,524 --> 00:25:15,925 Speaker 2: you can't perform anymore, you can't excel anymore at what 539 00:25:16,004 --> 00:25:18,405 Speaker 2: you're doing, then you're no good. You start thinking like that, 540 00:25:18,645 --> 00:25:22,205 Speaker 2: So you find yourself going into all these different areas 541 00:25:22,244 --> 00:25:24,645 Speaker 2: of life and instead of coming back to the real 542 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:29,165 Speaker 2: root cause of who we are and the creation of 543 00:25:29,244 --> 00:25:31,924 Speaker 2: who we are. And I think it just goes back 544 00:25:31,965 --> 00:25:36,124 Speaker 2: to you know, someone picking up the Bible and allow 545 00:25:36,244 --> 00:25:39,244 Speaker 2: someone to disciple them. You know, But you got to 546 00:25:39,244 --> 00:25:41,764 Speaker 2: be here because says faith come by hearing, And if 547 00:25:41,804 --> 00:25:45,165 Speaker 2: I don't hear it, then I can't operate in faith. 548 00:25:45,165 --> 00:25:47,084 Speaker 2: I don't understand faith. I have to hear it before 549 00:25:47,405 --> 00:25:48,084 Speaker 2: I understand it. 550 00:25:48,405 --> 00:25:51,725 Speaker 3: Right, So, Dell, you've said that your mess was turned 551 00:25:51,725 --> 00:25:55,364 Speaker 3: into a message. You are just a picture of a 552 00:25:55,484 --> 00:25:59,084 Speaker 3: man who has been redeemed. What does the word redemption 553 00:25:59,564 --> 00:26:00,644 Speaker 3: mean to you? Define it? 554 00:26:01,604 --> 00:26:04,524 Speaker 2: Well, I think it means that you have come full circle. 555 00:26:05,084 --> 00:26:09,725 Speaker 2: You have I'm from a place of really life situations, 556 00:26:09,804 --> 00:26:14,445 Speaker 2: trials and trivilations, never giving up, never quitting, never giving in, 557 00:26:15,125 --> 00:26:18,885 Speaker 2: and to being restored to wholeness. I think you can't 558 00:26:18,925 --> 00:26:23,484 Speaker 2: get there unless you allow yourself to believe the principles, 559 00:26:23,524 --> 00:26:25,764 Speaker 2: because you can't get there by yourself. And I think 560 00:26:25,844 --> 00:26:29,165 Speaker 2: so many people would love to be restored, But I 561 00:26:29,205 --> 00:26:31,884 Speaker 2: could tell you this one thing, pastor Greg. If you 562 00:26:32,004 --> 00:26:35,324 Speaker 2: don't do the work, you don't get restored. And I 563 00:26:35,405 --> 00:26:38,004 Speaker 2: think that's where most of the people struggle be The 564 00:26:38,244 --> 00:26:41,165 Speaker 2: redemption part of who I am was being able to 565 00:26:41,244 --> 00:26:47,564 Speaker 2: do the work of learning who God is, learning his word, 566 00:26:48,324 --> 00:26:51,804 Speaker 2: understanding scriptures. See the Bible makes it clear about people 567 00:26:51,844 --> 00:26:54,725 Speaker 2: whom my people perish because of lack of knowledge. The 568 00:26:54,844 --> 00:26:58,565 Speaker 2: reason why I was perishing because I had very earthly knowledge, 569 00:26:59,004 --> 00:27:01,725 Speaker 2: but I didn't have Kingdom knowledge. And it wasn't until 570 00:27:01,764 --> 00:27:04,284 Speaker 2: I got the Kingdom knowledge and understanding. And that's when 571 00:27:04,324 --> 00:27:07,004 Speaker 2: you start understanding who you are. And you think about 572 00:27:07,044 --> 00:27:09,685 Speaker 2: all the other people in the Bible that God used. 573 00:27:09,685 --> 00:27:13,524 Speaker 2: They was all broken people, but they finally committed themselves 574 00:27:13,524 --> 00:27:16,165 Speaker 2: their heart. Memory said, David is a man after my 575 00:27:16,284 --> 00:27:18,205 Speaker 2: own heart. It's the heart of a man. And I 576 00:27:18,284 --> 00:27:21,044 Speaker 2: think that's what God looks to be able to bring 577 00:27:21,125 --> 00:27:23,844 Speaker 2: about redemption is you give him your heart and you 578 00:27:23,965 --> 00:27:26,565 Speaker 2: have the heart like him, and he restores you to holiness. 579 00:27:26,925 --> 00:27:31,725 Speaker 3: So this is the Daryl that God was creating. And 580 00:27:31,804 --> 00:27:34,484 Speaker 3: all those phases you went there are leading it up 581 00:27:34,524 --> 00:27:36,884 Speaker 3: to this. But this is who God has made you 582 00:27:37,004 --> 00:27:39,084 Speaker 3: to be. And I think there's someone watching right now. 583 00:27:39,165 --> 00:27:41,484 Speaker 3: They've been a mess out of their life. They've screwed 584 00:27:41,564 --> 00:27:43,925 Speaker 3: this up, They've ruined that. I think it's all over 585 00:27:44,044 --> 00:27:45,685 Speaker 3: for me. I can't fix it. 586 00:27:46,604 --> 00:27:47,165 Speaker 1: Is that true? 587 00:27:47,645 --> 00:27:50,405 Speaker 2: It's not over, baby, That's the way you got to 588 00:27:50,405 --> 00:27:53,044 Speaker 2: look at it. Yeah, And as each day as you 589 00:27:53,165 --> 00:27:55,885 Speaker 2: get up, you start to make it a new day. 590 00:27:56,405 --> 00:28:00,004 Speaker 2: And like I said, you have to participate in God 591 00:28:00,725 --> 00:28:04,804 Speaker 2: changing you, you know, because what is what was Jesus 592 00:28:04,885 --> 00:28:08,044 Speaker 2: brought here for? You know, he was brought here to rescue, redeem, 593 00:28:08,165 --> 00:28:11,165 Speaker 2: and restore, Yes, And that's what he does. He does 594 00:28:11,205 --> 00:28:14,004 Speaker 2: it in that order. He rescues you from your sinful ways. 595 00:28:14,445 --> 00:28:17,524 Speaker 2: He redeems you with his blood, and he restores you 596 00:28:17,725 --> 00:28:20,244 Speaker 2: with his grace. And you know, it's a three parts 597 00:28:20,804 --> 00:28:23,125 Speaker 2: that you have to walk out. And when you learn 598 00:28:23,165 --> 00:28:24,484 Speaker 2: to walk it out and not be in a hurry. 599 00:28:24,564 --> 00:28:25,844 Speaker 2: I think I was in a hurry a lot of 600 00:28:25,925 --> 00:28:28,124 Speaker 2: times and I had to go through that process. And 601 00:28:28,484 --> 00:28:31,405 Speaker 2: when you go through that process, then the redemption part 602 00:28:31,445 --> 00:28:32,925 Speaker 2: of you come when you go through that,