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Speaker 1: back from my whirldwind trip to Ohio. Thanks to Mark
Speaker 1: Davis for sitting in for me on Monday and Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I was up to after the break,
Speaker 1: but I begin the program today with former Virginia Governor
Speaker 1: Glenn Youngkin. Governor Younkin is back with us because he
Speaker 1: and empowering America's parents. A brand new five to one
Speaker 1: C four is out there trying to get the education
Speaker 1: Freedom tax credit adopted across the country. Governor, good to
Speaker 1: see you again. Tell us about empowering America's parents and
Speaker 1: why states won't adopt like this is the easiest choice
Speaker 1: a governor can make. I think.
Speaker 2: I think it is too, and Hugh great to be
Speaker 2: with you and as a key part of President Trumps
Speaker 2: working Families Tax Cut Act. The provision that enables governors
Speaker 2: to opt in to the Educational Freedom Tax Credit unlocks
Speaker 2: basically universal school choice around the country. I mean, over
Speaker 2: ninety percent of children are eligible for these scholarships that
Speaker 2: would come from funds that are derived from private donations
Speaker 2: and a federal tax credit. And these scholarships can be
Speaker 2: used for tuition, of course, for tutoring, for transportation services,
Speaker 2: for providing extra services for kids with developmental disabilities. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is a great enabling, smart program, and yet governors
Speaker 2: have to opt in. And of course, what we've seen
Speaker 2: across the country is that the far left governors aren't
Speaker 2: opting in. Republican governors have and there's only one reason
Speaker 2: why they're not opting in, and that's because of politics.
Speaker 2: The teachers' unions are trying to protect to their monopoly
Speaker 2: on schools. And there's no argument against opting in, Hugh.
Speaker 2: I mean, these scholarships take no money away from state
Speaker 2: education frums. It's a public it's a private donation with
Speaker 2: a federal tax credit. Students in public schools can avail
Speaker 2: themselves of them. They can use them for tutoring and
Speaker 2: for transportation services and for supplies and equipment. And finally,
Speaker 2: they're available to virtually all the families, particularly those hard
Speaker 2: working families that haven't been able to get scholarships like
Speaker 2: this before. So this is a no brainer, and we're
Speaker 2: launching today in order to highlight and put pressure on
Speaker 2: governors who have not signed up to do the right thing,
Speaker 2: stop playing politics and opt in to the education freedom
Speaker 2: tax credits.
Speaker 1: Now there are four states of which I'm aware thirty
Speaker 1: states have said yes, and the mean twenty states have
Speaker 1: not yet said yes. But Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin are
Speaker 1: pro education, good educate, find good schools, good students for
Speaker 1: a long long time. And then Arizona, which already has
Speaker 1: a tax credit. Ohio's got a task credit therein Why
Speaker 1: in the world with Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin not uphold
Speaker 1: the Midwestern common sense way.
Speaker 2: Well, we can't figure it out, because their voters want this.
Speaker 2: This thing is a seventy five to twenty five issue
Speaker 2: when voters understand that all that has to happen is
Speaker 2: governors have to opt in.
Speaker 3: It takes no money away, as I.
Speaker 2: Said, from state K through twelve funding, and it's available
Speaker 2: to everybody, and the crazy thing, Hugh is if you
Speaker 2: are in Pennsylvania or Michigan, or Wisconsin or Arizona and
Speaker 2: your governor does not opt in, then the states that
Speaker 2: have opted in will get the money and the ones
Speaker 2: that haven't won't. And so there's just a basic responsibility
Speaker 2: here for governors to recognize that these funds support all
Speaker 2: education and there's no reason why they shouldn't be opting
Speaker 2: in other than politics. And that's why we have to
Speaker 2: stand for parents and kids and stand against the politics
Speaker 2: that are keeping these governors from opting in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one thing that unifies Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Arizona.
Speaker 1: And it's not the Big ten because Arizona is not
Speaker 1: in the Big ten there in the Pac twelve. It's
Speaker 1: they have Democrat governors and probably have Randy Weingarten on
Speaker 1: their speed dial. Has has anyone call them on this
Speaker 1: as the local newspaper, because it really is a no
Speaker 1: lose situation for taxpayers and students. It's the easiest decision
Speaker 1: the governor can make.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's exactly why we launched Empowering America's Parents,
Speaker 2: is to educate citizens across America and have them stand
Speaker 2: up in demands that their governors opt in. And you know,
Speaker 2: Randy Winingarten should be for this. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: something that supports public education as well. There's more four
Speaker 2: dollars flowing into education across states. It supplements public education
Speaker 2: dollars as well, and there's no reason to say no.
Speaker 1: So, Governor, I'm talking to you on the morning after
Speaker 1: the afternoon after a big deal vote in Michigan. Or
Speaker 1: Abdul al Sayed, I think arguably the most radical major
Speaker 1: party candidate in the history of the United States. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've had Gus Hall, an American communist, and we've had
Speaker 1: Eugene Debs, a socialist, run before, but I think Abduah
Speaker 1: Al Sayed is the most radical major party candidate for
Speaker 1: the United States Senate ever. What do you read into
Speaker 1: his nomination and to the sprint of the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: over the left edge.
Speaker 2: Well, the Democrat Party is in a battle for its
Speaker 2: own soul and the reality is the socialists are winning
Speaker 2: that battle and dragging the entire party far left. And
Speaker 2: this is, by the way, a candidate and a movement
Speaker 2: that believes in so many Unamerican things, literally defunding police,
Speaker 2: defunding our military, abolishing prisons, letting everyone go who's incarcerated,
Speaker 2: granting immediate amnesty to all illegal aliens, getting rid of
Speaker 2: the presidency, getting rid of the Senate, getting rid of
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. I mean, Hugh, this is crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: And here we have a candidate who has now been
Speaker 2: nominated by the Democrat Party in order to run for Senate.
Speaker 2: And this is a moment for us to stand up
Speaker 2: and say no, Americans are going to come together and
Speaker 2: we're going to defeat this socialist, if not communists, insurgents.
Speaker 2: And we're going to come together. And this is not
Speaker 2: just Republicans, Independents and a whole lot of Democrats are
Speaker 2: going to stand together. And in Michigan, Mike Rogers is
Speaker 2: a great candidate, and therefore we should all come together everyone,
Speaker 2: the Democrats, Republicans and independents and defeat this socialist and
Speaker 2: servi urgency. And Hugh, we're going to see the same
Speaker 2: thing next week in Wisconsin, where Francesca Hang is gonna
Speaker 2: win her nomination, and she represents the exact same socialist
Speaker 2: crazy ideas. In fact, she wants to get rid of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you, she is not going to
Speaker 2: stand for education, freedom, tax credit scholarships to the kids
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin, and that's going to be yet another moment
Speaker 2: for us to see this drastic comparison between common sense
Speaker 2: and crazy.
Speaker 1: Now, Governor, you drew a lot of Democrat votes when
Speaker 1: you ran for governor five years ago, and you appealed
Speaker 1: to people as the education governor. I don't think Democrats
Speaker 1: are crazy, but a lot of the mom Donnie replicants
Speaker 1: like Lsied and Ciros and Chevalier and Valdez and you
Speaker 1: mentioned hone up in they've got socialism in their mouth,
Speaker 1: Marxism in their brain, and communism in their house heart.
Speaker 1: Where do they come from? What happened to the party?
Speaker 1: You dealt with Democrats for four years and you got
Speaker 1: a lot done in Virginia. What happened to the party.
Speaker 2: Well, there's been this rise in socialism that has really
Speaker 2: come from a lot of our educational institutions that are
Speaker 2: teaching this basic philosophy that's wrong. And then it's compounded
Speaker 2: by the fact that what I would call kind of
Speaker 2: establishment democrats have evacuated their principles and run left.
Speaker 4: I mean in.
Speaker 2: Virginia last year we watched Abigail Spamberger run for governor
Speaker 2: as a moderate, and on the very first day of office,
Speaker 2: she picked up her stuff.
Speaker 3: And ran left.
Speaker 2: And Virginians hate this. I mean, she is the lowest
Speaker 2: rated governor in Virginia modern day history because people don't
Speaker 2: want crazy, and the vast majority of Americans view what's
Speaker 2: happening in the far left Democrat Party is crazy. Everybody
Speaker 2: understands that we have to fund law enforcement, we have
Speaker 2: to fund the military, Harry, We've got to stand for
Speaker 2: law and order. The three branches of government have established
Speaker 2: America as the most stable democratic, or at least republic
Speaker 2: in the history of mankind. I mean, this is foundational
Speaker 2: to the United States of America, and what they're selling
Speaker 2: is the antithesis of that. And that's why I do
Speaker 2: believe that this election election in Wisconsin are going to
Speaker 2: be key.
Speaker 1: Will you be spending a lot of time in the
Speaker 1: minute we've got left on the campaign trail between now
Speaker 1: and November.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to be helping candidates, and we're going
Speaker 2: to help candidates in Virginia. Listen, we've got five great
Speaker 2: congressional representatives and we've got to help them win again.
Speaker 2: We just fought back this redistricting effort by the by
Speaker 2: the far left Democrats here and now we've got to
Speaker 2: go win these races. But I alsom going to help
Speaker 2: folks around the country. I believe that that governors' races
Speaker 2: have to shine a bright light on many many issues,
Speaker 2: one of which, of course is school choice. And if
Speaker 2: you're the governor candidate is against opting in to the
Speaker 2: federal Education tax credit scholarships, then that says they don't
Speaker 2: care about your kids.
Speaker 5: And if your.
Speaker 2: Candidate is all about opting in and supporting these scholarships,
Speaker 2: I think for so many Americans, and particularly those with kids,
Speaker 2: it's a critical issue. This is why we've got to
Speaker 2: get out and make sure everybody understands the deep contrast
Speaker 2: between common sense and what we're seeing is crazy in
Speaker 2: many of these races.
Speaker 1: Governor Glenn Young cain always good to chat with you.
Speaker 1: Come on back as you make your way around the
Speaker 1: country and tell us about the races that you're involved in,
Speaker 1: and go by all means to the Empowering American Parents
Speaker 1: website and get involved in extending the federal Education Tax
Speaker 1: credit everywhere at all fifty states. That's empowering American parents,
Speaker 1: on whom Governor Younkin is now working there. Stay tuned, America.
Speaker 1: I'm good walking back America at the Senator. A heavy
Speaker 1: day today, I'm focused on the most radical Senate nominee
Speaker 1: in the history the Unit sid Senate. I'll do else.
Speaker 1: I ed in Michigan, but I'm pleased to later welcome
Speaker 1: Senator Tom Cotton, Senator Dan Sullivan, but I'm starting off
Speaker 1: with Pennsylvania's own Senator Dave McCormick, Senator. Good to see
Speaker 1: you again. I got to say it when I read
Speaker 1: the news about all the new companies in the defense
Speaker 1: sector going to Pennsylvania. I think it contrasts nicely with
Speaker 1: the Steelers having the oldest quarterback since uh you know,
Speaker 1: the Raiders at George Blanda, So tell us about.
Speaker 5: The quarterback.
Speaker 4: You never missed the opportunity to come out. Listen when
Speaker 4: the Browns start winning Super Bowls. You guts something to
Speaker 4: talk about.
Speaker 1: Talk to us about the Defense summit, because that was
Speaker 1: pretty big news.
Speaker 4: Oh man, it was. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 6: You know, this was a year after I had done
Speaker 6: the original summit with President Trump, which is the Energy
Speaker 6: and Innovation Summit, same model that was in Pittsburgh. We
Speaker 6: had CEO's Energy all the big investors, the President of
Speaker 6: the Cabinet, the Democratic governor, center feedermen, and we got
Speaker 6: ninety billion dollars of investment in Pennsylvania and energy, infrastructure
Speaker 6: and data centers. This was focused on defense and you
Speaker 6: know this better than anybody.
Speaker 4: Three things.
Speaker 6: The world's a more dangerous place, the nature of warfare
Speaker 6: is changing dramatically, and our defense ecosystem really has been
Speaker 6: an atrophied under the Biden administration, really under the Obama administration.
Speaker 6: So we need to dramatically reindustrialize and also lean into
Speaker 6: these emergent technologies. What I said on the stage are
Speaker 6: is we need new players, but also new ways of
Speaker 6: doing business, and this was about that.
Speaker 4: We had thirteen hundred people there. We had six hundred.
Speaker 6: C level executives, most of them from Pennsylvania companies, every
Speaker 6: major defense contractor, We had all the big Wall Street firms,
Speaker 6: rec Or Jamie Diamond and others who.
Speaker 4: Invest in defense.
Speaker 6: And we got ten billion dollars of announces for five
Speaker 6: thousand new jobs in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: But it was mostly.
Speaker 6: About bringing together the right next generation so Hanwa, which
Speaker 6: is rebuilding the Philadelphia Shipyard. We're going to go from
Speaker 6: one ship a year to twenty it was drone companies
Speaker 6: based outside of Pittsburgh. It was rebuilding our munitions, much
Speaker 6: of which comes from Pennsylvania. We've got two hundred thousand
Speaker 6: workers in Pennsylvania that are in the defense industry, and
Speaker 6: I'd like to come on your show in a few
Speaker 6: years and tell you it's three hundred or four hundred thousand,
Speaker 6: and we're gonna have a huge uptake in our spending,
Speaker 6: which I think we need. And my argument to everybody
Speaker 6: there and to the President was we need to make
Speaker 6: Pennsylvania the point of the spear for rebuilding our defense capability.
Speaker 1: So I remind everyone you're a West Pointer, You're a
Speaker 1: soldier before you were a businessman, before you were a senator.
Speaker 1: And you'll know the advantages therefore of having Pennsylvania as
Speaker 1: your home base. You've got natural gas that can fire
Speaker 1: up the AI company, the data centers, the industrial base.
Speaker 1: But why is Andrel and Ohio and not in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: If you got anything like Andrel coming over to the
Speaker 1: Keyston state.
Speaker 6: They are coming, A lot of them are coming. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that happened before I got here, unfortunately, but we have
Speaker 6: you know, just as you said, we've got energy, We're
Speaker 6: the second largest energy producer. We have skilled labor, I
Speaker 6: mean we cannot. I mean it's unbelievable, the demand for welders, electricians,
Speaker 6: pipe fitters, steam fitters. This is happening across Pennsylvania because
Speaker 6: you got to get President Trump. A lot of the
Speaker 6: policies that he put in place are a big part
Speaker 6: of that. We also have great universities like Carnegie Mellon,
Speaker 6: which is really AI capital of the world, and so
Speaker 6: for that reason, a lot of these emergent technologies, autonomy, AI, robots.
Speaker 6: I mean, look at the battlefield in Ukraine, the Ukrainians.
Speaker 6: Zelensky was here last week. We had a conversation with him.
Speaker 6: Ukraine's making ten thousand drones a day. America doesn't have
Speaker 6: that capacity. Unfortunately, we need to ramp that up quickly.
Speaker 6: That's happening in places outside of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: We need to ramp up robots.
Speaker 6: If you go to Ukraine right now and you look
Speaker 6: at the battlefield, we have robots on the battlefield. That's
Speaker 6: going to change dramatically in the coming years. So we've
Speaker 6: got to have a mixture of both investing in subs
Speaker 6: and ships and the things that we let atrophy, but
Speaker 6: really leaning into these emergent technologies which are shaping the
Speaker 6: modern battlefield. It's a dramatically different battlefield than when I
Speaker 6: was a young lieutenant in the eighty second Airborne Division
Speaker 6: in Iraq. We thought we had sophisticated technology. It's nothing
Speaker 6: like today.
Speaker 1: And I'll point out Pennsylvania's got both the Great Lakes
Speaker 1: access and it's got the Atlantic access through the Port
Speaker 1: of Philadelphia. So the Saronics that are out there, Saronics
Speaker 1: not in Pennsylvania, but it could be. Yeah, they can
Speaker 1: build the submersible stuff that you need as well, and
Speaker 1: the surface automated vehicles as well. You can do airc
Speaker 1: and sky.
Speaker 6: No doubt about it. Seronic, the CEO of Seronic, was
Speaker 6: at our summit. I absolutely agree with you. Think about America,
Speaker 6: there's really four host Atlantic, Pacific, Gulf and the inner
Speaker 6: coastal which is the Great Lakes. And so we have
Speaker 6: a ship We have shipyards on the Great Lakes in
Speaker 6: Erie Don John Shipyard.
Speaker 4: We of course have the Philadelphia Port.
Speaker 6: We have a big submarine component manufacturer in Roads, which
Speaker 6: is in Philadelphia. And we're going to go already, based
Speaker 6: on the present's budget, We're going to go from one
Speaker 6: submarine a year to three, and listen, we're lagging.
Speaker 4: We're lagging.
Speaker 6: I think we're lulled into a false sense of security
Speaker 6: because we say, well, we spend more than the Chinese.
Speaker 6: I think that's the wrong way to think about it.
Speaker 6: Ninety percent of our budget, maybe more than that looks backwards.
Speaker 6: It's on thirty year old platforms and a small fraction
Speaker 6: is looking forward. China has a smaller budget but a
Speaker 6: much larger percentage looking forward on these next generation technologies.
Speaker 4: So we've got to really revamp.
Speaker 6: We've got to increase the pie, Hugh, but we also
Speaker 6: have to change the way the pie is cut up
Speaker 6: and get a lot more forward looking next generation to technology.
Speaker 1: So last question, Senat McCormick political one, al say it
Speaker 1: gets nominated last night. We can't have the Senate go
Speaker 1: into Democrat hands. It'll stop the rebuild, it'll stop the innovation.
Speaker 1: Are you going to be on the campaign trail for
Speaker 1: the Republicans like Mike Rogers?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Mike.
Speaker 6: Mike's a good friend, we were together in the twenty
Speaker 6: four cycle. Great great American veteran, as you know, a
Speaker 6: great career.
Speaker 4: In public service.
Speaker 6: But listen, this is what's happening here is scary because
Speaker 6: you have the emergence of not this is not the
Speaker 6: extreme of the Democratic Party. This has become the mainstream
Speaker 6: of the Democratic Party. It is anti law enforcement, it's
Speaker 6: anti military, it's anti business, it's anti Semitic, and it's
Speaker 6: anti America and these ideas. You and I are old
Speaker 6: enough to remember when these ideas were getting about it
Speaker 6: around in the sixties, seventies and eighties. I thought the
Speaker 6: idea of socialism and communism was in the dustbin of history.
Speaker 6: And sadly it's finding new traction. And if that were
Speaker 6: to lead our country and the White House and the
Speaker 6: majority in the House or the Senate, I think it'd
Speaker 6: be a disaster.
Speaker 4: For the great future that we have.
Speaker 6: I'm more optimistic about the future of America than ever,
Speaker 6: but it depends on what we do. And if we
Speaker 6: have the wrong people in place with these terrible ideas,
Speaker 6: it's going to destroy us.
Speaker 1: Senator Dave McCormick always good to check in with you,
Speaker 1: follow the Senator on access. Sen McCormick, PA. That Sen McCormick, PA,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Senator, Stay tuned, America. I'll be right back morning.
Speaker 1: Laura and eating Grace in America. I'm Hugh Hewittt. Welcome
Speaker 1: to a wild Wednesday. Thanks to Mark Davis for sitting
Speaker 1: in for me. On Monday and Tuesday. I was in Ohio, Michigan,
Speaker 1: and when I went through Detroit Airport on Saturday and
Speaker 1: on Monday, I thought to myself, this is not a
Speaker 1: radical but Michigan. You know. I give them a hard
Speaker 1: time the week of the game. But I like Michigan.
Speaker 1: I went to law school in Michigan. I'm proud of
Speaker 1: my Michigan law degree. I like the people I know
Speaker 1: in Michigan. It's a wonderful place. I'm on in Detroit
Speaker 1: right now. Throughout the state in the Upper Peninsula. I
Speaker 1: give them hard time that week. We never want them
Speaker 1: to win another football game in Columbus or in the
Speaker 1: Big House against the Buckeyes. But love Michigan. And it's
Speaker 1: a normal place. It's not a coastal crazy place like
Speaker 1: New York or Massachusetts, or California or Washington, Oregon. It's
Speaker 1: a normal Midwestern place. And yet, and yet they have
Speaker 1: nominated the most radical individual ever to stand for the
Speaker 1: United States Senate since we began the direct election of
Speaker 1: senators after the Constitution was amended the most radical nominee
Speaker 1: for Senate, either via the appointment process in the early
Speaker 1: years of the Republic or the direct election process post
Speaker 1: amendment in the history of the American Constitution. Abdu Rahman
Speaker 1: L Sayed. And I've got to say abd Ramen L
Speaker 1: Sayed because of his rather angry speech last night that
Speaker 1: included this line cut number eleven in his victory. Press
Speaker 1: are today.
Speaker 7: But right now, as bitter and as divisive and as
Speaker 7: cynical as the campaign against us might have been, I
Speaker 7: want us to realize that there is so much more
Speaker 7: that unites us now, because the campaign that Mike Rodgers
Speaker 7: and Donald Trump and their gop MAGA allies are launching
Speaker 7: is already more bitter. All you gotta do is look
Speaker 7: at the odds you're already watching on TV.
Speaker 4: Started today.
Speaker 7: You know they think that you want to use my
Speaker 7: whole name against me. Mike, listen, man, if you can't
Speaker 7: say the name is Abdurahman, keep the name out your
Speaker 7: damn mouth.
Speaker 1: I can't say it. I thought it was Abdul. I
Speaker 1: did not know it until the press conference. So we've
Speaker 1: got some reactions coming in. My favorite is from a
Speaker 1: Michigan Democratic voter on the CBS Early Show when it
Speaker 1: was still in doubt this morning, cut number fourteen.
Speaker 5: Elsayed wins. I will not vote Democrat. I'll switch over
Speaker 5: and I'll vote.
Speaker 3: For a candidate with character, whoever that might be.
Speaker 1: Got that man with character, that's Mike Rogers, FBI agent soldier,
Speaker 1: fourteen years of Michigan congressman. He retired. He was not defeated.
Speaker 1: He was sel rare respected. He was the chairman of
Speaker 1: the House Intelligence Committee. Serious man. He knows why nine
Speaker 1: to eleven happened. He knows what radicalism in America does.
Speaker 1: Who's on Abdurrahman l say Ed's side, Well, Hassan Piker,
Speaker 1: an Islamist, a crazy man, an ignorant man. He was
Speaker 1: at the LSA had victory party, which was not a
Speaker 1: victory party. But I've got to jump cut the quote
Speaker 1: because he dropped so many F bombs. I'd be off
Speaker 1: the air if.
Speaker 5: I played it. But here's what he said.
Speaker 1: After Dwayne did a lot of editing. Cut number fifteen.
Speaker 8: Like everyone being like abdullahs Am of work to do,
Speaker 8: mending bridges.
Speaker 3: Here's the take nuke for you. Okay, you are.
Speaker 8: All unbelievably islamophobic pieces. Again, Okay, you literally called the
Speaker 8: dude a terrorist for months on end, and like call
Speaker 8: them a sexist, misogynist terrorist. Bad candidate doesn't fake doctor
Speaker 8: when he has like two degrees. And now you're gonna
Speaker 8: sit there and be like, well, you know, you've really
Speaker 8: got to come to me now, like what are you
Speaker 8: talking about?
Speaker 3: Do you want to win or not? Lock the in? Okay,
Speaker 3: lock the fucking'.
Speaker 8: And I do worry that there are some out there who,
Speaker 8: in an effort to make sure that they that this
Speaker 8: narrative that a progressive can win in a state like
Speaker 8: Michigan doesn't take root, will literally either subtly or you know,
Speaker 8: not so secretively endorse Mike Rodgers or stay out of
Speaker 8: the race while you know, trying to push the excitement
Speaker 8: in the opposite direction, like everyone is already doing the
Speaker 8: ken elsaid, unite the Democrats, and that question is just
Speaker 8: ken El sayed, get the pro Israel vote. Ken El said,
Speaker 8: win over not even the vote necessarily, but like ken
Speaker 8: El sayed, get the people and the groups and the
Speaker 8: NGOs and the consultants that have worked extensively for pro
Speaker 8: Israel candidates to shut the field about. El said, being
Speaker 8: a terrorist for a long enough timeline so that you know,
Speaker 8: we can consolidate the base and defeat the Republican.
Speaker 1: Now, I actually believe if you believe in the River
Speaker 1: to the Sea, you're a terrorist because you're calling for
Speaker 1: the extinction of the state of Israel and the genocide
Speaker 1: of the Israeli people. That's what I think, and I
Speaker 1: know it's on. Piker believes that he's up from the
Speaker 1: River to the Sea guy. I believe Elsai Ed as
Speaker 1: well Elsiad's sisters an actual out and out radical Islaminess,
Speaker 1: and Elsaid may have been a little more subtle, but
Speaker 1: he's campaigning with us. On Piker, you can't paign with
Speaker 1: an islamiss you're an Islamist, all right, and hassan bikers
Speaker 1: in islamis Let's go to Jim Banks, Senator Banks from Indiana.
Speaker 1: He knows Michigan well, he knows it's a normal state.
Speaker 1: They're not going to support this guy. Kind number thirteen.
Speaker 9: Factory workers that live in that state that don't want
Speaker 9: to vote for a guy like Abdul Rochman l Sied
Speaker 9: who wants to take away their gun rights. He wants
Speaker 9: to he wants to codify Roe v. Wade and overturn
Speaker 9: the Dobbs decision. He wants to abolish ice, and a
Speaker 9: lot of the working class families in Michigan, just like
Speaker 9: in Indiana and around the country, these families just want
Speaker 9: to keep their These men and women just want to
Speaker 9: keep their families safe.
Speaker 1: And L.
Speaker 4: Sied wants to abolish.
Speaker 9: Ice and allow the drug cartel gangs to take over
Speaker 9: the streets of cities in Michigan. You look at the
Speaker 9: extreme positions that L. Sied has staked out, and if
Speaker 9: he would happen to win in November, he would be
Speaker 9: the most extreme Democrat, radical United States Senator that we've
Speaker 9: ever had. He would make Bernie Sanders look squishy with
Speaker 9: the positions that he staked out. And already this morning
Speaker 9: he's trying to moderate and change his tune, but look
Speaker 9: at what he said throughout the campaign. His rhetoric is dangerous,
Speaker 9: his policies, his positions are extreme and dangerous. And I
Speaker 9: have never felt better up to this point. I have
Speaker 9: never felt better about Republicans keeping, if not growing, the
Speaker 9: majority in the United States Senate than how I feel
Speaker 9: today after watching else I d when this Michigan Democrat, I.
Speaker 1: Think John Fetterman feels the same way. Democrat from Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: on with Wolf Blitzer cutting number twelve about.
Speaker 10: His party Georgia in Texas. You know, we have great ones,
Speaker 10: but you know, I have a real problem with people
Speaker 10: that are proud to campaign people that loved Hamas or
Speaker 10: that they love communist kinds of the regime and under
Speaker 10: those kinds of policies overall. And that's why I'm saying
Speaker 10: objectively as a Democrat in the Senate, saying that puts
Speaker 10: that seat and danger and now that could and now
Speaker 10: people like Sanders, you know, after what he's done in
Speaker 10: Maine with Platner, and now it's like it's creating more
Speaker 10: kinds of chaos, and now it's like will you own
Speaker 10: will you own the blowback? And making it much more
Speaker 10: difficult to defend this seat.
Speaker 1: Of course he won't own it. Bernie thinks this is
Speaker 1: the future. Okay, Republicans aren't waiting even a day. Here's
Speaker 1: Mike Rodgers, who is His website is rogersfir senate dot com.
Speaker 1: Here's his first ad.
Speaker 2: Mike Rogers, Mike Rodgers, Mike Rodgers.
Speaker 4: Here's a man who's running for the Senate. He's one
Speaker 4: of the best candidates.
Speaker 1: We have a slot. He's tough, he's there.
Speaker 4: His name is Mike Rodgers.
Speaker 2: We are going to get to this day, moving forward
Speaker 2: and the envy of the country one more time.
Speaker 3: With your help.
Speaker 1: We're going to protect our families, We're going to protect
Speaker 1: our freedoms, We'll protect our factories, and we.
Speaker 4: Will be the most proper.
Speaker 11: State in the Union.
Speaker 12: Mike Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Mike Rodgers, Mike Rogers.
Speaker 4: Mike Rodgers, because he will get to work for a
Speaker 4: law course for seniors.
Speaker 2: Life for families like mine.
Speaker 5: Wee dogs.
Speaker 1: Mike Rogers got a great campaign. Contribute to it at
Speaker 1: Rogers for Senate dot com. Here is the Senate Leadership
Speaker 1: Fund AD cut number nine about l s ied.
Speaker 2: At Ruel in his own Have they've taken.
Speaker 7: A calling me dangerous and police really need to use guns?
Speaker 5: Do we need as much of a police force?
Speaker 4: I'm dangerous.
Speaker 7: Under my leadership, our states will not spend a dime
Speaker 7: enforcing federal immigration policy.
Speaker 4: I'm sure and dangerous.
Speaker 7: We take them to the mount and choke them out.
Speaker 8: At Druel Els dangerously radical.
Speaker 4: I'm for sure and dangerous. Pat's responsible for.
Speaker 1: The cut number ten, The nrsc AD cut number ten.
Speaker 12: Dou Orman Mohammad l s At the most radical Senate
Speaker 12: candidate in America, a dangerous. El Sayed pledge support for
Speaker 12: the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, a designated foreign terrorist group.
Speaker 12: He wants to hike taxes on Michigan waitresses, delivery drivers,
Speaker 12: and seniors. On social security, he joined a sex offender
Speaker 12: and a murderer to demand the mass release of dangerous prisoners.
Speaker 12: And when his ally claimed America deserved nine to.
Speaker 8: Eleven, El Sayed refused to disavow it.
Speaker 3: I'm not here to disavow people's users.
Speaker 12: Abdulla el sayed, too radical, too dangerous, wrong.
Speaker 1: For me, and Vice President Vance got in on it.
Speaker 13: Cut Number are working with us. We don't want the
Speaker 13: next administration, whoever you know, God forbid, you're gonna have
Speaker 13: president el Sayed.
Speaker 5: In three years.
Speaker 13: We don't want him to undo all the incredible work
Speaker 13: that we've been doing, when we've been taking out the
Speaker 13: fraudsters and saving the American people money. And in order
Speaker 13: to make this really work, we need our colleagues in
Speaker 13: Congress to really codify some of this stuff to make
Speaker 13: sure that it becomes law. And again, this is the
Speaker 13: sort of thing where while I I you know, I
Speaker 13: see only Republicans surrounding us.
Speaker 1: We need to keep the Senate Republicans, but we need
Speaker 1: to keep the Democratic Caucus unradical, not crazy. No else,
Speaker 1: I ad, I'll be right back to America right now.
Speaker 1: I want to talk with a Senate candidate who is
Speaker 1: an incumbent senator from Alaska, Dan Sullivan, big friend of
Speaker 1: the program, Senator, how.
Speaker 3: Are you, hey, Hugh, Great to be on the show again.
Speaker 1: Good to see you again. I want to talk to
Speaker 1: you about this race in Alaska where your opponents are
Speaker 1: using a dirty trick. Do you get to at least
Speaker 1: put Dan Sullivan, US Senator on the ballot line?
Speaker 14: Not US senator, but Sullivan Danes Republican incumbent.
Speaker 3: So yes, that should be.
Speaker 14: We're hoping enough to distinguish. But look, Hugh, I mean,
Speaker 14: you know, backing up this is the Dems can't beat
Speaker 14: me throwing tens of millions of dollars, attacking me with
Speaker 14: false ads for over a year.
Speaker 3: They have outspent me.
Speaker 14: They get a Democrat who's running against me, and they
Speaker 14: realize her record versus mine, My vision for Alaska in
Speaker 14: America versus hers is so much better for my constituents
Speaker 14: that they got a cheat.
Speaker 3: So they get a guy with my last name.
Speaker 14: He's a far left progressive. He tries to steal my
Speaker 14: middle initially, he tries to steal my website. For God's sakes,
Speaker 14: that's his website, that's mine. And his people who are
Speaker 14: working on his campaign and are supporting his campaign are
Speaker 14: supporting my Democrat opponent's campaign.
Speaker 3: You can't make this stuff up how much they're cheating.
Speaker 14: The Democratic Party that likes to know clutch his pearls
Speaker 14: about democracy and dictatorship are openly cheating in the race
Speaker 14: in Alaska. And Schumer's called it the race that will
Speaker 14: make him the majority leader. I'm sure his fingerprints are
Speaker 14: all over this. And guess what, It's going to backfire
Speaker 14: because this is treating my constituents with disrespect, with contempt,
Speaker 14: and I think it's going to backfire. I think Alaskans
Speaker 14: are going to come out to the votes based on
Speaker 14: my record, my vision, and we'll have a stronger turnout
Speaker 14: because of their cheating.
Speaker 1: Well, I believe that's true. I hope that's true. But
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that as someone comes in
Speaker 1: there ware the fraud, that they're able to easily find
Speaker 1: the real Dan Sullivan, the Senator, so they look for
Speaker 1: Republican incumbent. Is that the key?
Speaker 14: So it's Dan Sullivan, That's what everybody knows me as
Speaker 14: in Alaska and Dan s Well middle initial Republican incumbent
Speaker 14: that will be on the ballot. This fake guy, the
Speaker 14: far left progressive who, by the way, is donating to
Speaker 14: my Democrat opponent.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 14: He's going to be listed is Sullivan, Daniel J. Junior
Speaker 14: with no other indicator on his ballot line. So we're
Speaker 14: hoping that Alaskas won't be confused by the way. I
Speaker 14: think whoever you know, scheme this up, whether Schumer or
Speaker 14: jillim Ryan or whomever, or Democrats in Alaska.
Speaker 3: Or probably all of them.
Speaker 14: I think, like I said, they're treating my constituents with
Speaker 14: contempt and disrespect.
Speaker 3: But I think it's going to backfire.
Speaker 14: Must also, my voters are very smart, and I don't
Speaker 14: think they're going to be tricked.
Speaker 1: I hope that it's very important for the national security.
Speaker 1: You're a serious Democrat, a serious Republican on national security,
Speaker 1: on the armed services in Alaska needs you. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Golden Dome's got to be up there. We need
Speaker 1: the fighter pilots up there, we need everything up there,
Speaker 1: and you've made it happen for the However, many yours
Speaker 1: have been in the Senate. Do they have any case
Speaker 1: against you that they're arguing on substance that you're spending
Speaker 1: too much money on defense? Is that a problem with them?
Speaker 3: No, that's not a problem.
Speaker 14: And by the way, you we are undergoing the biggest
Speaker 14: build up in the military probably in Alaska history, certainly
Speaker 14: since World War Two. You know, we have this job,
Speaker 14: a lot of it because of the Working Family's Tax
Speaker 14: Cuts Act from last year.
Speaker 3: You're right. The Golden Dome missile defense.
Speaker 14: You and I've talked about Alaska's the cornerstone a missile
Speaker 14: defense for America. The Golden Dome, which we're going to
Speaker 14: have billions more in Alaska spent, is going to build
Speaker 14: up on what we already have in terms of missile defense.
Speaker 14: We have an investment in Joint Base Elmendorf Richardson Jaybehar,
Speaker 14: as we call it, seven billion dollar recapitalization of that
Speaker 14: strategic base. I'll make that the most important air force
Speaker 14: base in the world. Four thousand jobs by the way,
Speaker 14: to just recapitalize that, and then you know, I share
Speaker 14: the committee on the Coast Guard. The Working Families Tax
Speaker 14: cut last year had the biggest investment in the Coast
Speaker 14: Guard in American history, twenty five billion dollars.
Speaker 3: I wrote a ton of that bill.
Speaker 14: Alaska is going to be getting four ice breakers to
Speaker 14: be homeported in our great state. Imagine that, the state
Speaker 14: with the ice has never had an icebreaker.
Speaker 1: So I rush vote and I talked to Jerry Hendricks
Speaker 1: and they're very excited about the Coastguard finally getting their
Speaker 1: icebreakers and producing them in the United States after a
Speaker 1: few years, as well as buying a couple from abroad
Speaker 1: just to get us up to speed up. There was
Speaker 1: I was unbelieving when they told me we didn't have
Speaker 1: a homeported Coast Guard ship there.
Speaker 14: Well, guess what. We have two icebreakers right now. One
Speaker 14: is broken. They're both homeported in Seattle. That's about twenty
Speaker 14: five hundred miles away from the ice if you look
Speaker 14: at them up. But the Russians have fifty four, many
Speaker 14: of which are nuclear powered. They're all weaponized, they're Intel platforms.
Speaker 14: And we're an arctic nation. Because of Alaska, we have
Speaker 14: huge interests in the Arctic, huge interest in the North Pacific.
Speaker 14: You know, the the US Air Force. Billy Mitchell called
Speaker 14: Alaska the most strategic place in the world.
Speaker 3: I believe it is.
Speaker 14: But what's happening now is my advocacy in the Senate
Speaker 14: on the Armed Services Committee is bringing an enormous amount
Speaker 14: of military build up in terms of the Coast Guard,
Speaker 14: in terms of the Air Force, in terms of the Army.
Speaker 14: Even my beloved Marine Corps Hugh has said they got
Speaker 14: to do more. They announced moving up some Marine Corps
Speaker 14: forces to the great state of Alaska. So this is
Speaker 14: great for the national security of America. It's also great
Speaker 14: for my state, great for the economy. And you know,
Speaker 14: Alaska has more veterans per capita than east state in
Speaker 14: the country, and we appreciate the military. My opponent, the Democrat,
Speaker 14: two term Democrat failed. She got booted out of office
Speaker 14: in twenty twenty four. She voted against the National Defense
Speaker 14: Authorization Act bill that had a big military build up
Speaker 14: for Alaska, pay raises for our troops.
Speaker 3: You know how she vote against it.
Speaker 14: She put a statement out because we stripped out the
Speaker 14: Biden era transgender rights stuff for the troops.
Speaker 3: You can't make this, I'm gonna what's up?
Speaker 1: What's your website that people can go to to contribute
Speaker 1: and find out about the campaign.
Speaker 14: So Dansullivan for Alaska dot Com, Dan.
Speaker 1: For Alaska dot Com. Next time you come back, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that crazy rank voting scheme that Alaska has.
Speaker 1: But I just want Alaskans to go in and vote
Speaker 1: for Dansullivan for Alaska dot Com, Republican incumbent. Don't get
Speaker 1: confused by the dirty trick Democrats. Dan Sullivan for Alaska
Speaker 1: dot Com Center. Keep coming back. We'll keep pumping out
Speaker 1: the videos. And I appreciate very much you're spending time
Speaker 1: on the Hugwit Show. Marine Cleveland Browns fan and a great,
Speaker 1: great national security senator from Alaska, Dan Sullivan, Stay tuned, America,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Jim Tallon as
Speaker 1: a member used to be a member of the United
Speaker 1: States Senate's Dela Senator, so I call him Senator Jim Tallent, Senator.
Speaker 1: I began the program today and I've been spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time on the Victory narrow though it was
Speaker 1: of abdur Rahman el Sai ed in Michigan last night,
Speaker 1: and I know, you know, you can't win by just
Speaker 1: being negative. So how does Mike Rogers balance the need
Speaker 1: to make sure Michigan knows how radical this character is.
Speaker 1: In fact, they had Ted Cruz hearing today. El said's
Speaker 1: father has got ties to care, ties to the Muslim
Speaker 1: brotherhood linked Engage Engage organization. I mean, it's a wacko family.
Speaker 1: But that's not really enough to win, is it?
Speaker 5: Case hewittt might be.
Speaker 11: I mean the guys for defunding the police, opening the borders,
Speaker 11: and then you mentioned all the national security concerns. But
Speaker 11: there's no reason just to be negative. And so you ask,
Speaker 11: you know, how we get positive? Well in the first place,
Speaker 11: when you have an outstanding candidate like Mike Rogers, I
Speaker 11: mean his records outstanding, his communications ability is great. He
Speaker 11: comes across and is an amiable, decent guy who's done
Speaker 11: a great job in the Senate. So he's going to
Speaker 11: talk about himself, which is what he should do. And
Speaker 11: then you, I think it is time for everybody to
Speaker 11: start getting out the message that we are on the
Speaker 11: cusp of a manufacturing led economic boom that we haven't
Speaker 11: seen since the Reagan years. I mean, investment is up,
Speaker 11: foreign investment is way up, productivity is up, manufacturing output
Speaker 11: is up. Real income for families has gone up three
Speaker 11: thousand dollars per per annum. And it's all because of
Speaker 11: the policies that the Republicans have been following, everything from
Speaker 11: the energy policies, the deregulatory policies, the permanent tax cuts,
Speaker 11: the balance trade deals. So for once we can get
Speaker 11: our exports out. So I mean, if I was Rogers,
Speaker 11: I would be saying, look, I know you're worried about
Speaker 11: economic mobility, You're worried about being able to buy a house.
Speaker 11: Just get ready because it's coming and in a year
Speaker 11: or two you're not going to worry about those things anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, I was in Michigan and Ohio over the weekend
Speaker 1: and the price of gas is bumping up against four
Speaker 1: dollars a gallon. I hope we hammer Iran. I think
Speaker 1: that it will be impossible. Not the hammer Iran, because
Speaker 1: they'll lie and cheat whatever the President thinks is going
Speaker 1: to happen tomorrow or the next day. By the way,
Speaker 1: do you think a deal is going to happen. They're
Speaker 1: just liars and cheaters. There's no deal.
Speaker 5: I think the.
Speaker 11: Deal is possible because I would be very surprised if
Speaker 11: there is not a faction in the regime that is saying, look,
Speaker 11: our currency is worthless. They're state oil producers, just had
Speaker 11: its account frozen because of debt, and I think there's
Speaker 11: some of them saying we've got to get some money.
Speaker 11: So a deal that says, all right, it'll stop threatening
Speaker 11: the straight you let us sell our oil.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 11: They're not going to get the three hundred billion dollar
Speaker 11: rebuilding fund, they're not going to get their assets unfrozen.
Speaker 11: But a deal that allows the oil to flow in
Speaker 11: the short term and then we come back later and
Speaker 11: do whatever we want to do. I think that is possible.
Speaker 11: And remember you, I mean, the mission was accomplished. Iran's
Speaker 11: power to dominate the region is shattered and it's not
Speaker 11: coming back.
Speaker 5: So what we want to do is get the oil flowing.
Speaker 11: And I support I think the president's right to alternate
Speaker 11: punishing them until morale improves, as we discussed last week
Speaker 11: with these negotiations, to see if they're willing to make
Speaker 11: a deal along those lines.
Speaker 1: Okay, so on with gas prices at four and maybe
Speaker 1: they'll drop a little bit of oil went down today
Speaker 1: because people seem to think what you discussed is imminent
Speaker 1: if gas prices drop, how do you make the pitch
Speaker 1: that things are going to be great, because I think
Speaker 1: there are going to be great. Can be like Reagan
Speaker 1: eighty three and eighty four take two years to turn
Speaker 1: the ship around and then it goes really fast.
Speaker 5: You do it using the numbers.
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I periodically look for interviews Kevin
Speaker 11: Hassett is giving.
Speaker 5: I know he's been on the show.
Speaker 11: You might want to have him back, and he talks
Speaker 11: about all this and look, the American people can understand,
Speaker 11: and they you. They want they want to believe. I mean,
Speaker 11: things are not bad now, but they're worried about the future.
Speaker 11: And I think if if our candidates reassure them and
Speaker 11: explain why the same methods that worked in the eighties,
Speaker 11: the permanent task cut, the deregulation, the energy production, the
Speaker 11: trade policies. You know, Reagan had pretty aggressive trade policies also.
Speaker 5: It worked then.
Speaker 11: Now a lot of people don't remember it, but if
Speaker 11: you're on the stump, you can tell them what it
Speaker 11: was like. But I think we had six percent growth
Speaker 11: one year, didn't we We did millions and millions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is a.
Speaker 11: Manufacturing laed boom that's coming, which means that jobs are great.
Speaker 5: The innovation is going to be great.
Speaker 11: Jobs for skilled workers, jobs for professional people because these
Speaker 11: plants that are being invested and now are going to
Speaker 11: be built. I mean, I think it's coming, and I'd
Speaker 11: be out talking about it if I was on the stump.
Speaker 1: All right, last question, Missouri voted yesterday, as well as
Speaker 1: did Kansas. Any I've been focused on Michigan. Any big
Speaker 1: news out of either of those states to your knowledge.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Well, there was a proposition to eliminate the income tax,
Speaker 11: and the income tax in Missouri is going down, and
Speaker 11: it's statutorily on a schedule to go down gradually as
Speaker 11: we hit revenue targets. There was a proposal to get
Speaker 11: rid of it more or less immediately.
Speaker 5: That lost, and I.
Speaker 11: Think it's because voters were concerned about how it was
Speaker 11: going to be implemented, would other taxes go up, and
Speaker 11: so that one lost. Other than that, I mean, there
Speaker 11: was a proposal to make it more difficult to pass
Speaker 11: initiative petitions, and that one failed as well. But no,
Speaker 11: I wouldn't say there was anything worthy of national news
Speaker 11: in Missouri yesterday.
Speaker 1: In Kansas. I know that the attempt to make statewide
Speaker 1: elections for Supreme Court justice is a question for the
Speaker 1: people that failed, unfortunately, but maybe they'll come back around
Speaker 1: on that. So Jim Tallent last question. You're not a
Speaker 1: betting man, but if you were, would you bet on
Speaker 1: Mike Rogers in Michigan.
Speaker 11: Because you think it's First of all, El Sayed is
Speaker 11: the kind and I'm going to say El Sayyed whether
Speaker 11: he likes it or not. By the way, I'm not
Speaker 11: going to use the full name if I don't want to.
Speaker 11: I really didn't like that line at all. Yeah, I
Speaker 11: think because we have a great candidate. Now, it's the
Speaker 11: kind of year where you'd expect the elections to be close,
Speaker 11: and I put my money on the best candidate in
Speaker 11: situations like that, and he's running against somebody who's very flawed,
Speaker 11: who's got a record that you can prove and you
Speaker 11: can show, and you know, the President carried Michigan the
Speaker 11: race two years ago was was very close. And I'll
Speaker 11: point that out again you because I did it now.
Speaker 11: There was if you run and you get close and
Speaker 11: then you run again, I just think that is absolutely
Speaker 11: the best candidate because you're steaming. You're ready to go,
Speaker 11: you know how to do it, and you go out
Speaker 11: and do it with everything you got. And I'm sure
Speaker 11: Rogers is exactly that kind of candidate.
Speaker 1: You're right, John Thune did it as well, so did
Speaker 1: Bernie Marino more recently. Second time is a charm. Jim
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Speaker 1: Welcome Back in America. The story of the day. Of course,
Speaker 1: radical l sied Abdul l Said's win in Michigan. In fact,
Speaker 1: it was talked about on this morning's brand new Getting Hammered.
Speaker 1: The host of Getting Hamored, Mary Katherine hamm is here.
Speaker 1: She and her co host Vic Matis, talked about it today,
Speaker 1: Mary Catherine, for the benefit of our audience, I want
Speaker 1: to make sure I give them the numbers again, because
Speaker 1: it was a very very close race. Elsi ed pulled
Speaker 1: seven hundred and seventy three votes eight point four eight
Speaker 1: percent of the state's Democratic electorate. Hailey Stevens had seven
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six thousand, sixty five votes, or forty
Speaker 1: seven point five to one percent. That's less than one percent.
Speaker 1: Is Hailey Stevens justified at her anger at Polsters? What
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 16: Uh?
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think she is that clearly this was overstated
Speaker 17: by quite a bit, and I think probably helped him
Speaker 17: to some extent. And I think he was pushing that
Speaker 17: notion that he was going to be the stuble digit
Speaker 17: winner and then you end up with a really close call.
Speaker 17: So I would be annoyed as well. And it made
Speaker 17: mean something for the future. Also about twenty twenty six
Speaker 17: and how polling is overreading very engaged, white, liberal, college
Speaker 17: educated people.
Speaker 1: I'm going to come back to polling in a second,
Speaker 1: but first, Mike Rogers is the Republican nominee. Two years
Speaker 1: ago it was a presidential year. But two years ago
Speaker 1: he collected two million, six hundred and ninety three thousand,
Speaker 1: six hundred and eighty votes, as opposed to yesterday, el said,
Speaker 1: having seven hundred and forty thousand votes. It's tough to
Speaker 1: get turnout out because it's not a presidential year. Arguably,
Speaker 1: though this is the most exciting race in the United States.
Speaker 1: Rogers versus l said, do you think the turnout will
Speaker 1: match a presidential year? Mary Catherine Hamm.
Speaker 17: I don't know if it will match. The Republicans have
Speaker 17: an enthusiasm deficit. I think that Lsaed, being as extreme
Speaker 17: as he is will help with that to some extent.
Speaker 17: But if you look at the delta between say like
Speaker 17: the primary turnout for John James versus the primary turnout
Speaker 17: for the Democratic governor, that might not be the perfect gauge,
Speaker 17: but it's huge, right, So we need to think about this.
Speaker 17: We need to be optimizing getting people out to the polls.
Speaker 17: I know Mike Rogers sense he narrowly lost in the
Speaker 17: election year against Alisaslokan, who is a much better suited
Speaker 17: to Michigan. I think Normy's candidate. He has been on
Speaker 17: the ground and doing the work there, and I hope
Speaker 17: that his staff is very ready to get a bunch
Speaker 17: of Democrats for Rogers on board and make sure that
Speaker 17: they are making their commitments to be voted up on
Speaker 17: this one.
Speaker 1: Would you advisor candidate consultants to go with radical radical
Speaker 1: radical radical abdu lsied, or would you go with he's
Speaker 1: for medicare for all, we can't afford. It will never pass.
Speaker 1: Michigan will be a nobody going nowhere fast in the
Speaker 1: United States Senate? Which is the better strategy? Because you're right,
Speaker 1: Mike Rogers is a Normy seven term congressman, chairman of
Speaker 1: the House Intel Committee, which is a speaker designated the
Speaker 1: guy everybody trust gets to be chairman in the House Intel.
Speaker 1: He's an FBI agent. He's a very solid guy on Normy.
Speaker 1: How would you run the race if you were the consultant, Mary.
Speaker 17: Catherine, I think my take would be Normy vie radical,
Speaker 17: But you have to find clever ways to communicate his
Speaker 17: radical nature, because I think sometimes people tune it out
Speaker 17: when he sounds so wild that you're not quite sure
Speaker 17: if it's believable. Now, it helps that he says some
Speaker 17: of the things that he believes quite frankly, which is
Speaker 17: what a lot of the DSA aligned candidates have going
Speaker 17: for them. There's tons of tape on them saying these things.
Speaker 17: But normally versus radical, I think is a decent frame.
Speaker 17: The problem is that his norminess, it can be seen
Speaker 17: as establishment and people may want to cast about and
Speaker 17: find change, even if that change looks like lsayah.
Speaker 5: That's what worries me.
Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty thousand Jewish Americans live in Michigan,
Speaker 1: quarter of a million Arab or Muslim Americans, the predominant
Speaker 1: majority of whom are Arab American live in Michigan. How
Speaker 1: important is the ethnicity factor here?
Speaker 17: I think it's possible that you could get some undervote
Speaker 17: from the Jewish community, you might get some crossover, There
Speaker 17: might be donor loss to Democrats, and I think there
Speaker 17: already has been to some extent with this turn that
Speaker 17: they've taken toward an encampment coalition, which is what they
Speaker 17: have now right. They have a highly educated, largely white
Speaker 17: liberal campus encampment coalition that's aligned with some really bad
Speaker 17: sort of homosnek tendencies, and they've given up a black
Speaker 17: church union, household working class coalition to get it so
Speaker 17: that that's going to matter to people, and Republicans can
Speaker 17: speak to some of those folks who are who are
Speaker 17: falling off.
Speaker 1: Mary Kathern. I got to call him coming out on
Speaker 1: this race tomorrow for Fox News, and I carried over
Speaker 1: a phrase I call him in the Islamis supporting candidate
Speaker 1: because in the aftermath of the elimination of Hamini, he
Speaker 1: said he didn't want to upset the people who were
Speaker 1: sad about it, and I consider that to be Islamis supporting.
Speaker 1: What do you think of my characterization? It's gone, it's
Speaker 1: in print. You can't change it. But to go ahead
Speaker 1: you think it's too much light?
Speaker 17: Now, No, I think that's correct. I meant he's got
Speaker 17: like he said, oh, well, today he said, I want
Speaker 17: to speak to something. I intend to uh to protect
Speaker 17: Jewish Michigan durs the way that I would protect my
Speaker 17: own daughters. It's like you had a chance to speak
Speaker 17: out when a jihadist aligned with Hesbla tried to run
Speaker 17: his vehicle into a Jewish preschool in Michigan, and his
Speaker 17: response was to do a florid speech about how hurt
Speaker 17: people hurt people, thereby justifying this Jihati's actions to some
Speaker 17: degree due to military actions in the Middle East. He
Speaker 17: also hangs out with Hassan Piker, who says he has
Speaker 17: no issue with Hesbela and Hesbela's flag is his favorite
Speaker 17: because it's dope that is aligned, that's making excuses for
Speaker 17: those people, it is not speaking out against them.
Speaker 1: I agree. By the way, Hassan Piker also figures in
Speaker 1: the column because I think it is a Republican consultant's
Speaker 1: obligation to staple Piker to Abdul Al sayed, they should
Speaker 1: be you know Jana's face. They're the same person in
Speaker 1: my book.
Speaker 5: What do you think I think that's correct.
Speaker 17: Look, if this Han Piker is going to be the
Speaker 17: kingmaker in democratic primaries and parade around with them and
Speaker 17: go to their parties and have pool parties for them
Speaker 17: the day before the primary, then you have to answer
Speaker 17: for what he says. And again he's very frank about
Speaker 17: what he says. He was yelling last night about any
Speaker 17: of the Democrats who didn't vote for l SIAD, I
Speaker 17: e a lot of those black working class voters in
Speaker 17: Detroit calling them islamophobic pos So, yes, those comments are
Speaker 17: something that l si Ed, who's going to have to
Speaker 17: unite the party to some degree, should answer for. He
Speaker 17: said him last night.
Speaker 1: Okay, quick ex goog question on getting hammered today? Are
Speaker 1: millennials parents really calling their bosses? That makes my stomach hurt.
Speaker 17: I think it's gen Z's parents.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's us. It might be young.
Speaker 17: Millennials though, Like, I'm not going to say that the
Speaker 17: millennials have this figured out, but I do think there
Speaker 17: are people calling bosses for their kids to call and
Speaker 17: say that's apparently yeah.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be mortifying to you?
Speaker 5: It's horrific.
Speaker 17: I can't imagine how this happens, and yet here we are.
Speaker 17: And the thing I think we've learned is that we
Speaker 17: always thought that people who operate this way would meet
Speaker 17: the real world and they would have to shift how
Speaker 17: they're doing things. But in fact, a bunch of them
Speaker 17: were coming out of school and the real world is
Speaker 17: going like Oh, well, I guess we need you here,
Speaker 17: so I will let your parents call in sick for you.
Speaker 17: I mean, it's a wild thing, the way that management
Speaker 17: has shifted for people with these expectations.
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Speaker 1: coming out from Washington State to Pennsylvania. Stay tuned to
Speaker 1: the huge at chef Welcome back to America. I've been
Speaker 1: focused on Michigan through to the program today, but there
Speaker 1: are other elections yesterday in Washington State, there's a very
Speaker 1: competitive race in the third congressional district where John Braun
Speaker 1: has taken on an incumbent Democrat who is to the
Speaker 1: left to left. John joins me now, State Senator Broun, Welcome,
Speaker 1: it's good to have you. Let's start by telling people
Speaker 1: what your website is and where the third Congressional district is.
Speaker 16: You bet Thanks for having me on so website simple
Speaker 16: vote Braun vote b r a u N dot com.
Speaker 16: Come there to learn about the campaign all the work
Speaker 16: we're doing here in southwest Washington, So Washington State, West coast.
Speaker 16: This is the southwest corner of the seven counties that
Speaker 16: go from the Columbia River to the Pacific Ocean just
Speaker 16: south of Olympia and then east up to the Cascade Mountains.
Speaker 1: Now, I looked at the electoral history of the third
Speaker 1: It votes Republican in almost every election. Was it just
Speaker 1: the fact that she beat Joe Kent, who's a little
Speaker 1: bit edgy. Was that the problem You're You're a normal
Speaker 1: mainstream Republican. You got a better shot against her.
Speaker 16: Absolutely, And I'm not gonna say aything about Joe. It
Speaker 16: just wasn't the right fit for the district and the timing.
Speaker 4: Was right for her.
Speaker 16: But we're we're very focused on running a campaign that
Speaker 16: reaches out to the independence across the district. Uh, it's
Speaker 16: a it's a Republican leaning district, but it's a swing
Speaker 16: district and you got to go earn the votes.
Speaker 3: And we're doing the work necessary.
Speaker 16: And I think you saw that in the first you know,
Speaker 16: first round the primary yesterday, and we're set up well
Speaker 16: to go win the general.
Speaker 1: Now what matters the most in western Washington State or
Speaker 1: the it's actually the border of Oregon, a little bit
Speaker 1: of Portland outer burbs. Am I right about that? Or
Speaker 1: the Seattle outer burbs.
Speaker 16: You know, it's just it's you know, broadly, and I
Speaker 16: suppose you could call it in the Portland metro area
Speaker 16: north of the Columbia River the border between the two states.
Speaker 16: So yeah, this is Vancouver is the is kind of
Speaker 16: the population center and very you know, just across the
Speaker 16: river from Portland. But this is a pretty rural district broadly.
Speaker 16: You know, it goes from urban area in the south
Speaker 16: to very resource dependent, timber dependent, fishing, that type of
Speaker 16: thing in the rest of the district. So it's a
Speaker 16: district that is historically very independent minded and Williams vote
Speaker 16: to vote for the person who they think is going
Speaker 16: to go represent them well in Congress. And it's a
Speaker 16: district that we held as Republicans for twelve years. Most
Speaker 16: of the state wide races win the Republicans win this seat,
Speaker 16: so it's a it's definitely a seat we can and
Speaker 16: should win. We're putting into work, and we expect to
Speaker 16: go win.
Speaker 3: It in November.
Speaker 1: You've represented how much of the district in your state, Senator.
Speaker 16: Yours, My legislative district is entirely within the congressional district.
Speaker 16: It's about twenty percent of the congressional district rough numbers.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a good head start. And will you debate
Speaker 1: her because she is a lefty and people. I think
Speaker 1: it's always better to let people know who you're running against.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 16: I think that's the way, you know, politics should work
Speaker 16: in our countries, that you've got to get up there
Speaker 16: and you got to defend your ideas.
Speaker 4: I'm more than comfortable doing just that.
Speaker 16: I mean, she has tried to hide behind a moderate,
Speaker 16: you know, image while voting for very far left policies.
Speaker 16: By vote supporting, you know, will ultimately support Team Jeffrey
Speaker 16: Speaker and the Democratic agenda that is, as you know,
Speaker 16: largely driven by the Democratic Socialists of America these days.
Speaker 1: Well, it could be a one vote Congress, and I
Speaker 1: try and tell people that every congressional district might be
Speaker 1: the decision as to who's running the House floor. Do
Speaker 1: the voters of Washington State care about that?
Speaker 4: I think they do.
Speaker 16: I think They understand that that we can't afford to
Speaker 16: have two years of Congress just doing nothing but investigations
Speaker 16: and drama. They want, they want their government, their federal government,
Speaker 16: to move forward, and even if they don't like everything,
Speaker 16: they understand that to move forward, we need to keep
Speaker 16: the Republican majority in the House of Representatives and we
Speaker 16: need to go represent them the third district in an
Speaker 16: independent way, but one that actually gets results and moves
Speaker 16: the ball forward for them and their families and their communities.
Speaker 1: So the website is vote braun b R a u
Speaker 1: N vote broad dot com. How much money do you
Speaker 1: have to raise in a district like this center, Well, that's.
Speaker 16: A great question, and I wish I kN know the
Speaker 16: exact answer, but I think you're going to have a
Speaker 16: pretty expensive primary. We've had, you know, commitments from the
Speaker 16: national folks.
Speaker 4: You know, I can tell you last time, my.
Speaker 16: Opponent spent over twenty million dollars both you know, both
Speaker 16: directly and some independent spending holding the seat. She's spent
Speaker 16: four and a half million in the primary loan out
Speaker 16: to spend us, you know, four to one, and still
Speaker 16: only got less than forty percent of the vote.
Speaker 4: So they're certainly not.
Speaker 16: And they're dumping money in from across the country from
Speaker 16: special interests, from the Soros family, So they're going to
Speaker 16: spend the money they think to win, and we got
Speaker 16: to go raise the money to counter that.
Speaker 4: I think so far we're doing a good job.
Speaker 3: We got more work to do.
Speaker 16: But we're on a good track to go raise the
Speaker 16: money and more importantly, go earn the vote and win
Speaker 16: the district.
Speaker 1: Well, the NFCC folks told me that you are one
Speaker 1: of our gettibles, meaning a Democrat seat that can switch
Speaker 1: back to the Republican party. They said, go get state,
Speaker 1: Senator Braun, get them on the show. So I hope
Speaker 1: you'll come back as we get closer. When does early
Speaker 1: voting start in Washington State, Senator Braun.
Speaker 16: It's yeah, it's twenty one days before the day of election,
Speaker 16: so roughly this second week of third second into the
Speaker 16: second week of October something like that.
Speaker 1: You've only got seven weeks till the voting starts. No
Speaker 1: vacations for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little more than that. Maybe I'm getting my
Speaker 3: math right yet.
Speaker 16: Thirteen weeks so.
Speaker 1: Maybe ten weeks, well, maybe get the weekend. Uh, but
Speaker 1: vote Braun dot com, go and help them out. If
Speaker 1: you're in Washington State, volunteer for him. Vote Braun b
Speaker 1: R a u N dot com. Thank you, Senator. I
Speaker 1: look forward to calling your congressman next year. Thanks tune
Speaker 1: in America. I'll be right back on the excuge Healius Show.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to America. Pennsylvania State Treasurer State Segarity attend
Speaker 1: to the money in them and wealth and she is
Speaker 1: running against Josh Shapiro for the top job in the
Speaker 1: Keystone State treasure Garrity welcome or should I call you
Speaker 1: colonel Garrity? Are you retired now from the army after
Speaker 1: your many years in three deployments?
Speaker 18: I am you, first of all, thanks for having me on. Yes,
Speaker 18: I hit my mandatory retirement date in twenty sixteen, or
Speaker 18: I would not be here as the state treasurer or
Speaker 18: nominee for governor because I would still be serving serving
Speaker 18: definitely wasn't as the honor of my lifetime.
Speaker 1: Well, my father in law was colonel. I called him
Speaker 1: colonel until his last day on this planet. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to call you colonel two treasurer. Colonel. So Treasure Garrity,
Speaker 1: you won an upset victory few years ago, you pulled
Speaker 1: more votes than Josh Shapiro. Your running ends. Now, how
Speaker 1: did you pull that off?
Speaker 18: Well, when I ran in twenty twenty, if you recall,
Speaker 18: I ran against an incumbent and I'm from rural Pennsylvania,
Speaker 18: Bradford County, and they had it had somebody from a
Speaker 18: row office in over forty years from a rural county,
Speaker 18: and so that was a huge upset in twenty twenty.
Speaker 19: So we didn't won by much, but we won.
Speaker 18: And the guy ran against was ex deputy mayor under
Speaker 18: ed Rendell. He was a Rhodes scholar. You an ambassador
Speaker 18: and outspent me eleven to one. So next time around, yes,
Speaker 18: one with more votes ever in a statewide in the
Speaker 18: history of Pennsylvania. And I think it is because I
Speaker 18: reached out across the aisle from day one. Half my
Speaker 18: staff are Democrats, half are Republicans. I do not care.
Speaker 18: I will work with anybody that wants to make Pennsylvania
Speaker 18: a better place to live, work and raise a family.
Speaker 1: Now, Treasure Garrity, you are right a person who's widely touted.
Speaker 1: He's been on the show before Josh Shapiro has been
Speaker 1: on the show. I'm friendly with him. But he's widely
Speaker 1: touted as running for president already. Is that an issue
Speaker 1: in the campaign, that he's actually looking past the State
Speaker 1: House to the White House?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 18: Absolutely, Josh was more interested in Pennsylvania Avenue than helping
Speaker 18: Pennsylvania families.
Speaker 19: He has his eye off the ball and it shows us.
Speaker 19: News and World Report rankings just came out. I think
Speaker 19: it was last week.
Speaker 18: We ranked forty seventh out of fifty in the nation economically,
Speaker 18: and that is just crazy. We were ranked low anyway,
Speaker 18: we were ranked thirty eight, and so we've dropped. And
Speaker 18: you know what, we ranked forty third in infrastructure, forty
Speaker 18: first overall. And because I'm the treasure this does make
Speaker 18: me crazy. We spend five billion dollars more year than
Speaker 18: what we bring in, and Pennsylvanians can't afford it. I mean,
Speaker 18: think about it. We're just celebrating our two hundred and
Speaker 18: fiftieth anniversary. Our Commonwealth is the birthplace of freedom and liberty,
Speaker 18: and the place where America's enduring dream of life, liberty,
Speaker 18: and the pursuit of happiness began. A movement that has
Speaker 18: freed more people economically and socially than any in the
Speaker 18: history of mankind. And so there is no way that
Speaker 18: we should be trailing in all these metrics.
Speaker 19: We should be leading the nation.
Speaker 1: Now, station Garrity, what is your website? So the people
Speaker 1: who want to get involved. We had lots of people
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and a lot of people in Philadelphia listening,
Speaker 1: and we got people all across the state on De
Speaker 1: Bendetto's station. What is your your website?
Speaker 18: So my website is GARTYFOPA dot com and the fores.
Speaker 1: Fo r okay, GARTYFOURPA dot com.
Speaker 4: Issues.
Speaker 1: When Josh Shapera ran, he was for school choice, but
Speaker 1: he turned down the opportunity to expand school choice and
Speaker 1: he's not yet signed on. I began the program with
Speaker 1: former Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin. Pennsylvania is one of the
Speaker 1: states that have not yet signed on to the Educating
Speaker 1: Freedom tax credit? Would you if you were governor?
Speaker 19: Day one?
Speaker 18: Absolutely? Day one, because who's that hurting? That's just hurting
Speaker 18: our kids because that money will go to other states.
Speaker 18: And so he's just playing, you know, trying to score
Speaker 18: cheap political points like he always does, you know, against
Speaker 18: the current administration.
Speaker 1: Okay, and what about the nature of your buying Israel bonds?
Speaker 1: I think that's great. You bought I don't know, twenty
Speaker 1: six million dollars of Israel bonds for the state of
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania for your portfolio. I think that's great. Does that
Speaker 1: resonated as an issue in Pennsylvania because there's a large
Speaker 1: Jewish population of supporters of Israel who are not Jewish
Speaker 1: all across the state.
Speaker 18: Right So, right October twelfth, five days after the Hamas attack,
Speaker 18: I invested in additional twenty million in Israel bonds. But
Speaker 18: here's the thing here, We've been invested in Israel bonds
Speaker 18: since the nineties, treasures on both sides of the aisle.
Speaker 18: They're a great investment. And why not take the opportunity
Speaker 18: to stand with our greatest ally, our only al quite
Speaker 18: frankly in the Middle East.
Speaker 19: And so I did. I got protested twice.
Speaker 18: The last one was they staged a dieing outside of
Speaker 18: my office.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 19: The reporters called me and they said, what do you think?
Speaker 18: And I said, you know what, they can come every
Speaker 18: day and protest and stage Dieing's the only dying that
Speaker 18: happened was October seventh. You know, against the you know,
Speaker 18: the horrible atrocities against the is is real people.
Speaker 1: All right, so that's foreign affairs, we coverage school choice.
Speaker 1: Let's get down the basics economic growth in Pennsylvania. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of natural gas, there's a lot of energy
Speaker 1: exploitation opportunity. There. Is it being used to its maximum extent?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 18: Absolutely not. And that's why we rank forty seventh overall.
Speaker 18: And that's why we have a structural deficit of five
Speaker 18: billion dollars.
Speaker 19: We are the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. And if
Speaker 19: we would unleash what we.
Speaker 18: Have right under our feet, I call it liquid goal.
Speaker 18: That would create two hundred thousand family sustaining jobs and
Speaker 18: generate five to six billion dollars in revenue that we
Speaker 18: desperately need. But right now, Josh Shapiro, he pretends that
Speaker 18: he's in all of the above energy governor, but he's
Speaker 18: quietly subverting natural gas. We really haven't had any new
Speaker 18: so to speak, power generation in a decade, and so
Speaker 18: right now, you know, you have data centers coming on
Speaker 18: and there's a huge and for electricity, and what are
Speaker 18: we doing. We've taken energy off the grid instead of
Speaker 18: adding it to the grid.
Speaker 1: So guaranty FORPA dot Com. How much money do you
Speaker 1: have to raise station. Guaranty to be competitive with Joshua Perrow,
Speaker 1: who will be well funded.
Speaker 18: Yes, we don't need to go dollar for dollar. We
Speaker 18: just need to get enough money to get our message out.
Speaker 18: Latest polling that came out hasardd a seven point race view,
Speaker 18: and so that just came out today.
Speaker 19: So we're super excited about it because people.
Speaker 18: Are figuring out that, you know what, Pennsylvania should be
Speaker 18: leading the nation. There is no reason for us to
Speaker 18: be squandering our blessings. And again, it doesn't have to
Speaker 18: be this way. You know, when you look at oil
Speaker 18: and gas deregulation DP I called don't expect a permit.
Speaker 19: You know, school choice. He's had not one, not two,
Speaker 19: but three positions on school choice. Yeah, it won't surprise you.
Speaker 18: I've had one position and that's parents, not bureaucrats, know
Speaker 18: the best way to educate their kids.
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