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Speaker 1: So you've been absolutely consistent as a feminist, and you

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Speaker 1: have very publicly supported women who you have believed in,

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Speaker 1: and you have believed to have been wronged by society

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Speaker 1: who didn't look at men and women as being equal.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't matter what religion you are, what ethnicity you are,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to standing up for women. And this

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Speaker 1: is where these people get completely exposed, isn't it totally?

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Speaker 2: I mean one hundred percent. I can't add more to

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Speaker 2: such a salient point other than to stay what is

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Speaker 2: it in someone's hearts or mind that they can look

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Speaker 2: at the most thrilling I mean now devastating with the

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Speaker 2: news that were the numbers and the figures that we're

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Speaker 2: seeing coming out of Iran, and the amount of devastation

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Speaker 2: and the murderous activity of the regime and the you know,

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Speaker 2: some of the things that I've seen in her reminds

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Speaker 2: me of dance that's grouping, you know, just kind of

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Speaker 2: rounding people up and mowing them down. For these women

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Speaker 2: of the West, feminists of the West, to watch the

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Speaker 2: women in Iran who have been suppressed for decades, they

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Speaker 2: from cradle to grave, they have been raised in this

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Speaker 2: environment where they're not allowed to show their hair. They're

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Speaker 2: not allowed to sing, they're not allowed to dance, they're

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Speaker 2: not allowed to embody femininity in a public way at all.

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Speaker 2: They have to hide everything that makes them feminine. To

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Speaker 2: see them rise up in such a galvanized inspired you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever witnessed a fight for freedom

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Speaker 2: like this. You know, it is leading by literal example.

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Speaker 2: I do not care if I die in this fight

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Speaker 2: for my freedom. This is bigger than me. I am

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Speaker 2: going to smoke out this picture of the supreme leader

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Speaker 2: of the man who has oppressed my people for almost

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Speaker 2: five decades. I don't understand what's going on in the

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Speaker 2: hearts and minds of Western feminists that they can look

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Speaker 2: at that and look away and not like, where is

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Speaker 2: your where's your beating heart?

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Speaker 1: It says to me, no baiting. Otherwise they'd be dead.

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Speaker 1: But that's the only evidence I have that their hats bait.

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Speaker 1: That's it, that they live right.

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Speaker 2: But what if they But what does this say about

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Speaker 2: the Western feminists? It says that they are being inspired

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Speaker 2: and driven by something other than the mutual fight for freedom.

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Speaker 2: On its face, it means that they are driven by

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Speaker 2: their own self interest their own ego, because otherwise it

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Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. You can't witness this and not

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Speaker 2: want to raise these women's voices if you are a true,

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Speaker 2: selfless member of of a movement that is global.

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Speaker 1: It takes every box.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Usually they are desperate, They clamor over themselves for a

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Speaker 1: situation like this would normally just be perfection for any

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Speaker 1: of them. But of course you look at the ideology

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Speaker 1: that they're fighting, and that was the ideology that they

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Speaker 1: tried to defend two and a half years ago, yes, exactly,

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Speaker 1: and maybe how they come out against it, no, And maybe.

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Speaker 2: That's part of it is that I think it's part

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Speaker 2: of it that they well, what they've shown us is

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Speaker 2: that they really are and this is the most disappointing

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Speaker 2: thing to think of in terms of conceiving feminists and

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Speaker 2: how they are behaving and how they're organizing themselves. But

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Speaker 2: they've really displayed that they are being you know, their

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Speaker 2: puppets on a string, and they're waiting for their strings

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Speaker 2: to be pulled. They're waiting for the narrative to come

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Speaker 2: down that protects them and keeps their message consistent and

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Speaker 2: protects them from having to be faced with reality, which

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