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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is

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Speaker 2: July twenty third, twenty twenty six. I'm at the remote

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Speaker 2: y Refic Studios. Blake is holding it down in Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: That were doing, Blake, I'm doing great because I'm at.

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Speaker 2: You got my mic flag? You got my mic flag?

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Speaker 2: It's no, no, listen, it's on my microphone. Well, let's

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Speaker 2: not quibble over the details here, Blake. We actually got

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Speaker 2: And I am, of course referencing the new bill, the

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Speaker 2: Stop Insider Trading Act. Now, this was something that President

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Speaker 2: massive populist energy behind things like this. It is very

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Speaker 2: clear the American people do not want Congress trading based

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Speaker 2: eyes were on Nancy Pelosi of course she voted against this.

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Speaker 2: But the controversy here, Blake, is that House Republicans attached

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Speaker 2: very common sense pieces of legislation. Nevertheless, it does pass,

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Speaker 2: I actually think there were stronger versions of this bill,

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Speaker 4: I just what I would say is I've been around

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Speaker 4: you could call it. You call it stop and save.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like a gas station, so you have you

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Speaker 2: It excludes certain funds, so you can still trade mutual funds,

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Speaker 2: Mike Lee has been proposing, which is the talking filibuster.

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Speaker 2: Make them outlast. You make them put their name on

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Speaker 2: That just needs to be needs.

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Speaker 4: To be the Republican approach on a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: Every bill we get up seems to be an omnib

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Speaker 3: I think about that a lot.

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Speaker 4: On the border, there's so many aspects of border security

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Speaker 4: You can ram it through faster to force them to

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Speaker 4: get votes on it. And I just don't know why

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Speaker 4: Congress fails to do these things. And you could do

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Speaker 4: Here's the plan. If you want to win as a Republican,

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Speaker 4: the plan you should have is zero vacancies. You should

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Speaker 4: of those people should be confirmed. Yeah, if you do that,

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Speaker 4: if you have go like I said, the Stop and

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Speaker 4: enriching ourselves on insider trading, which is illegal for you,

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Speaker 4: but it's been legal for us for ages. If you

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Speaker 4: you know, if gas prices get lower because of Iran,

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Speaker 3: You have a good message, you can win the election.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I totally agree. And again, one of the

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Speaker 2: If you pass this, it's a huge symbolic victory that

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Speaker 2: Make me feel bad. You just I didn't know all this.

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Speaker 3: To solidify that position on the alloah.

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Speaker 9: It is already illegal for someone who's not an American

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Speaker 10: That's at least four hundred aliens that did that.

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Speaker 9: There are already laws to prevent that. People have violated

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Speaker 10: Do you see anything's actually going to happen.

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Speaker 3: I thought Democrats always said that there's no evidence of that.

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Speaker 9: I don't understand why you want laws that are already there.

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Speaker 3: That makes me no sense.

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Speaker 2: But that's a complete straw man argument. It's the honor system.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, in nineteen States, did you know, Blake,

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Speaker 7: You're in the country illegally and you get a letter

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Speaker 3: Why do you vote?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could register for a party, some of that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, but I just like wonder, like that's some

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Speaker 4: I mean, it gets it gets out what we've talked about,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just imagine just the logic that these people

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Speaker 4: Alrighty, well, it's been a few weeks since we've talked

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Speaker 3: Ceasefires and then not have ceasefires, and.

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Speaker 4: It looks like we're grinding back towards the direction of

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Speaker 11: Yeah, hey, and thanks for having me, guys, huge honour

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Speaker 11: I got to say that I can understand why a

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Speaker 2: If you consider the.

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Speaker 11: Fact that Iran now has virtually zero power projection right

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Speaker 11: Shoot stop say you know, they'll get get beat up

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Speaker 11: to prices everywhere else going up. Their goal is to

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Speaker 11: keep those prices up, keep this dragging out, which obviously

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Speaker 11: won't necessary politically bode well for President Trump in the

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Speaker 11: midterm elections.

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Speaker 10: And their goal is to have you.

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Speaker 11: Know, a loss of the House and or the Senate

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Speaker 11: in November, and then once the and then you know,

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Speaker 11: once the Democrats were to take power in Congress, their

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Speaker 11: goal is that the funding would get cut and we

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Speaker 11: would be forced with some situation where we have to

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Speaker 11: start leaving around alone. So that's what I mean when

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Speaker 11: I say that the IRGC, the UH you know Hamas,

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Speaker 11: Hezbollah who are funded and supported by them, and the

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Speaker 11: Democrat Party all have the same goal right now.

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Speaker 10: And I know that sounds a.

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Speaker 11: Little overly partisan, but it's just objectively true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's actually right. I think we've

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Speaker 2: all gathered that their ability to project strong military power

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Speaker 2: at this point is greatly diminished. I sort of was curious, how,

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Speaker 2: you know, the remains tom a bunch of these military

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Speaker 2: sites yet to hit, because that's what we're hearing. We're

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Speaker 2: hitting their radar, we're hitting their missiles, we're hitting their drones.

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Speaker 2: I was under the impression that we had destroyed more

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Speaker 2: of those, so I'm surprised that there are still so

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Speaker 2: many targets left to hit. Nevertheless, that's we're doing. I

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Speaker 2: want to play some clips here from Marco Rubio, who's

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Speaker 2: kind of going viral this morning, and then I'm hoping

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Speaker 2: you can take us inside the decision making structure, inside

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Speaker 2: the White House. Who are the players and what are

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Speaker 2: they What kind of positioning do they want? Right? Is

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Speaker 2: JD still advancing the piece? Is Rubio somewhere in the middle?

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Speaker 2: Does heg seth want to go really hard? We'll play

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Speaker 2: this really quick, sot to.

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Speaker 6: I saw you know, guys, I saw a Rachi, their

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Speaker 6: foreign minister, who the other day say or something about

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Speaker 6: their policies, and I for an eye. The president's policy

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Speaker 6: is ahead for an eye. I mean, honestly, that's what

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Speaker 6: it's going to be. I mean, they will pay a

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Speaker 6: very heavy price for the things they're doing. They're already

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Speaker 6: paying a very heavy price. You guys don't know it

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Speaker 6: because you don't cover it. You're not in Iran, you're

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Speaker 6: not in the street. They don't have a free media.

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Speaker 6: But they're going to continue to pay a very heavy price.

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Speaker 2: Goes on. And this is something called that I've been

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Speaker 2: texting with a bunch of people the last week, and

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Speaker 2: I've heard this phrase come up a number of times.

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Speaker 2: Is shia bravado. That's what they call it, Shia bravado.

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Speaker 2: He kind of references it here at tot seven.

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Speaker 6: And these people do a deal, they either break it

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Speaker 6: or after they make it. They want to change the deal,

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Speaker 6: So they're probably not ready to do a deal yet,

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Speaker 6: but they will be soon because the price they're paying

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Speaker 6: is very high. Despite their tough talk and their flowery

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Speaker 6: language and their stupid lego videos they put out. I've

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Speaker 6: never seen them, but they put these things out on

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Speaker 6: social media. Despite all that bravado, they are suffering tremendously

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Speaker 6: and they're going to suffer more until they come to

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Speaker 6: their senses. They're not there yet, unfortunately.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I think there's a lot to that, right there is. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 11: just the reaction I would say is, yeah, there is

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Speaker 11: a lot of that, like a bravado as you as

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Speaker 11: you talk about because you know so much of it.

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Speaker 11: It's like a lot of other cultures, of non Western cultures.

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Speaker 11: It's a very like face saving type of a culture

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Speaker 11: and remaining defiant.

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Speaker 10: Now, one thing.

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Speaker 11: I'd say that when you mentioned earlier is a lot

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Speaker 11: of their targets hadn't been hit yet. One thing that

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Speaker 11: I think is really interesting to point out is Uranians

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Speaker 11: were at least smart enough because look, a lot of

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Speaker 11: people think these people are just you know, dominant educated.

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Speaker 11: That's far from it. Uh, they are, you know, their

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Speaker 11: leadership is quite fanatical. But one of the things that

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Speaker 11: that you guys and the viewers shouldn't realize is that

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Speaker 11: they knew that if they got into a real conflict

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Speaker 11: with the United States as they have, that most of

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Speaker 11: their conventional forces, their conventional navy would go away. They

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Speaker 11: knew that right like they lost their ships, they lost

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Speaker 11: their you know, their what few submarines they have. They

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Speaker 11: now granted they've got conventional ground troops, but that's you know,

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Speaker 11: that's not really a threat to the region. So what

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Speaker 11: they did, and they knew that was going to go away.

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Speaker 11: But what they did invest a lot of time and

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Speaker 11: effort and money into is a lot of these you know,

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Speaker 11: hidden missile sites, launch sites, storage facilities. They're the so

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Speaker 11: called uh, you know, mosquito fleet, which what we call

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Speaker 11: fast inshore attack craft fact fayak, you know a lot

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Speaker 11: of that and so and also keep in mind the

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Speaker 11: coastline of Iran is about roughly the same length as California.

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Speaker 11: It's a lot of real estate and it's also pretty

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Speaker 11: craggy mountainous along most of that coastline, so you can

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Speaker 11: hide a lot of things in there. And one thing is,

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Speaker 11: while I think it's safe to say that the Iranian

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Speaker 11: coastline along the Persian Gulf and you know, and along

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Speaker 11: the Strait of Hormuz is probably some of the most

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Speaker 11: heavily surveilled in the world right now. So we are

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Speaker 11: watching at all times, and I think you're going to

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Speaker 11: start seeing that the future attacks are going to get

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Speaker 11: fewer and further between, because every time they make a move,

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Speaker 11: we see it and will most likely hit it or

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Speaker 11: be able to hit it. So that's one of the

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Speaker 11: things that I think between that and addition the blockade,

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Speaker 11: and also I've been told with not I haven't given

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Speaker 11: any of the details, but there are other options on

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Speaker 11: the table for the president to force a deal or

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Speaker 11: and it may be a deal that's not a great

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Speaker 11: one for them, but they have no other choice to accept.

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Speaker 11: But all that said is the Iranians pursued what they

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Speaker 11: called their Mosaic Plan. And I'm not sure if you

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Speaker 11: or your viewers are familiar with this, but in two

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Speaker 11: thousand and three, when they saw Iraq get absolutely pummeled

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Speaker 11: and the Saddam Hussein's government taken over in a matter

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Speaker 11: of weeks, you know, like, say what you want about

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Speaker 11: the occupation of Iraq. That was obviously a mess. I

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Speaker 11: participated in that, but we did take out their convention,

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Speaker 11: their government, and their conventional military very quickly because we

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Speaker 11: did decapitation strikes, destroyed all of their command and control communications,

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Speaker 11: and you know, they were blind very quickly and it

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Speaker 11: got over. It is over soon. So Iran saw that

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Speaker 11: and they said, oh crap, we need to be able

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Speaker 11: to plan against something like that. So what they did

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Speaker 11: with their mosaic plan is Iran has thirty one provinces

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Speaker 11: and each province is essentially its own command and control

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Speaker 11: see right where they have their standing orders. They know

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Speaker 11: what they're supposed to do in case they get into

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Speaker 11: a big shooting war with America or whomever else, but

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Speaker 11: in this case America, and they have their own I

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Speaker 11: guess you could say, self contained military fighting force. And

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Speaker 11: so what we're doing now to counter that is you've

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Speaker 11: seen some of the infrastructure we've been hitting is to

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Speaker 11: cut off and isolate. There's three providence provinces boushir Conzas

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Speaker 11: and I can't remember the name of the other one,

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Speaker 11: I apologize, that are along the coast there and basically

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Speaker 11: cutting them off in terms of power, rail bridges, roadways

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Speaker 11: to make sure that they are completely isolated, because those

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Speaker 11: are the biggest threats to American shipping. And even though

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Speaker 11: the actual firepower power projection capability against merchant traffic is

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Speaker 11: relatively low, the issue though, is that insurance companies don't

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Speaker 11: want to underwrite it or they make the premiums too expensive.

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Speaker 2: Now, I think that's all really really smart analysis. I

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Speaker 2: think the question and then becomes, you know, because I

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Speaker 2: keep hearing you know, Trump wants this done, which leads

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Speaker 2: me to believe that he wants a really, really forceful strike.

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Speaker 2: It kind of makes me think back to you know,

579
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Speaker 2: Isis where he unshackled the military to defeat ISIS and

580
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Speaker 2: they got it done really quick. I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: that's kind of where his thinking is at. So, Tom,

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Speaker 2: your analysis is amazing. I think it's really helpful. Just breaking.

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Speaker 2: By the way, on at Axios, I guess he gave

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Speaker 2: an exclusive interview. President Trump says he is close to

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Speaker 2: making a decision, including strikes that would be bigger than

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Speaker 2: the ones carried out during Operation Epic Fury. So he's

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Speaker 2: seriously considering restarting major combat operations in Iran and even

588
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Speaker 2: bigger strikes. Right, So, even though we've continued hitting them.

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Speaker 2: Apparently he's got plans that he's very very seriously considering

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Speaker 2: that could go even further. Explain, as I said before,

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Speaker 2: inside the room, which voices are pushing for this, which

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Speaker 2: voices maybe want to see a different route, and what

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Speaker 2: would this larger plan entail in your estimation.

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Speaker 11: Well, despite the fact that I've got a lot of

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Speaker 11: friends at the White House of Pentagon and i'm there often,

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Speaker 11: nobody's sharing too much strategy with me. But I think

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Speaker 11: it's a fair estimate right now that it's pretty consistent.

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Speaker 11: What we're seeing here with this breaking news is pretty

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Speaker 11: consistent with what I was just speaking about on an

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Speaker 11: earlier segment that I would suspect that these massive attacks

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Speaker 11: would most likely be focused on, you know, the coastal

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Speaker 11: provinces where most of the attacks on shipping or it's

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Speaker 11: more like molesting attacks on shipping that really threaten and

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Speaker 11: makes you know, the shipping too expensive to underwrite, that

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Speaker 11: slows down the flow of resources through the strait. I

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Speaker 11: think it's we're going to see isolating isolation of those provinces,

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Speaker 11: like cutting off everything or you know, turn the way out,

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Speaker 11: cutting off rail bridges, highways, any sort of communication so

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Speaker 11: that those provinces.

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Speaker 2: There are no longer a.

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Speaker 10: Threat to shipping traffic right now.

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Speaker 11: So keep in mind that we've got our two biggest

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Speaker 11: objectives in this whole thing. Is one, first and foremost

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Speaker 11: is deny Around's ability to build a nuclear weapon. Now, obviously,

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Speaker 11: reasonable people can argue whether or not the fact that

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Speaker 11: any in your enriched uranium that's buried beneath a mountain

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Speaker 11: now in full of rubble and all that is completely

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Speaker 11: inaccessible or what. And so we can just check that

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Speaker 11: box off, and you know, just just keep an eye

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Speaker 11: on things and assume that they're not going to try

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Speaker 11: to rebuild. And if we have to come back and

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Speaker 11: mow the lawn, we will. Okay, that might be part

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Speaker 11: of that, but denying them access to nuclear weapons. And

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Speaker 11: then next is ensuring the Strait of Hormuz, which is

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Speaker 11: in international strait, is free for you know, it's complete

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Speaker 11: freedom navigation.

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Speaker 2: So those are those two objectives.

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Speaker 11: And keep in mind, like I mentioned, with that mosaic

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Speaker 11: plan that they are executing right now, is you know,

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Speaker 11: in my estimation, you know, we could wipe Tehran off

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Speaker 11: the map and very likely it wouldn't change the tactical

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Speaker 11: situation on the ground along the Strait of Hormuz. So

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Speaker 11: in addition, I think to probably taking out more leadership,

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Speaker 11: just as whoever is comes next in the seat decides,

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Speaker 11: hey maybe I like this position, and also, hey, I

636
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Speaker 11: don't want to have a bomb dropped on my head.

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Speaker 11: They those people might be more inclined to make a deal. However,

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Speaker 11: even if Tehran leadership does make a deal, it's not

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Speaker 11: a guarantee that some of these provinces and local IGC commanders,

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Speaker 11: IRGC commanders you know, on the ground are gonna listen

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Speaker 11: because they've got their standing ords. It's part of that

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Speaker 11: mosaic plan. Say, hey, if commanded control is knocked out,

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Speaker 11: don't anything anyone else says, carry out this mission. So

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Speaker 11: I think it really comes down less about you know,

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Speaker 11: neutralizing the head of the snake, and then really it's

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Speaker 11: like ta neutering their ability to project any sort of power,

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Speaker 11: even minimal power, such as you know, firing a few

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Speaker 11: rockets are drones at shipping traffic. Does that all make

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Speaker 11: sense to.

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Speaker 2: You, guys, Yeah, it makes perfect sense. And it seems

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Speaker 2: like I mean, I'm just reading the tea leaves here

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Speaker 2: that the basic prevailing sentiment within this administration right now

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Speaker 2: and probably the War Department, is that they need more pain.

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Speaker 2: That they're getting asked to make a deal. But basically

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Speaker 2: they're not working working forward in good faith and therefore

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Speaker 2: they need more pain. It seems like this is going

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Speaker 2: to happen, that the escalation is going to happen, and

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Speaker 2: then maybe they'll be willing to make a deal. There's

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Speaker 2: another front on this war, though, that people need to

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Speaker 2: keep their eyes on as we look at energy prices

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Speaker 2: Tom the Houtis are firing at Saudi shipping lanes now

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Speaker 2: as well in the Red Sea. And President Trump is

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Speaker 2: saying we're going to hold Iran responsible because that's a proxy.

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Speaker 2: What can you tell us about that? We have two

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Speaker 2: minutes remaining. What are you what are you looking for there?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 2: If we're going to hold Iran responsible, I mean, wouldn't

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Speaker 2: we just fire on the hoo thies?

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Speaker 11: You know, I'm actually no, that's a that's a fair point.

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Speaker 11: And I'm honestly surprised now because up until now the Houthis,

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Speaker 11: have you noticed, like have kind of stayed quiet, They've

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Speaker 11: stayed out of this fight. I'm actually surprised right now

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Speaker 11: I'm willing to bet that obviously that the Houthies uh

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Speaker 11: do get some support from the Iranians, obviously at least

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Speaker 11: a little bit, if not considerable. So uh, you know,

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Speaker 11: the Houthis, I think for a time were wisely staying

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Speaker 11: out of this fight, as in, like, we don't want

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Speaker 11: that heat right now, and they cannot sustain the type

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Speaker 11: of punishment that Iran has been taking. So when I

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Speaker 11: learned that, you know that they were firing at you know,

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Speaker 11: their mortal enemy, the saudiast or well, I guess mortal

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Speaker 11: enemies really is real. But you know something, the Saudi's

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Speaker 11: and the N's don't get along too well. So when

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Speaker 11: I heard about that, I was rather surprised. I think

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Speaker 11: you could probably see so much it would take us

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Speaker 11: a lot less for us to properly punish the hoo Thies.

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Speaker 11: And a lot of this really just comes down to geography.

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Speaker 11: And you know, I mean, look at you know, our

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Speaker 11: mutual good friend Jack Pasovic often loves to point out

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Speaker 11: the map right like map break, and you've got to

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Speaker 11: keep in mind that geography really matters. So where Iran,

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Speaker 11: especially the areas that we're concerned with, is super mountainous

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Speaker 11: hard to navigate, easy to hide things. You know, yes,

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Speaker 11: there are some mountains in Yemen, but it's a lot flatter,

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Speaker 11: and you know it's they're much more exposed, so their

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Speaker 11: power projection capability is a lot lower. So I'm willing

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Speaker 11: to bet that you know, somebody in Yemen had their

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Speaker 11: arm twisted or worse into doing this, because it's really

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Speaker 11: just a poor decision for them.

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Speaker 2: Tom Souer, former Navy EO D Officer, former Navy lieutenant commander.

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Speaker 2: Excellent analysis that you know, matt break, sort of regional break.

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Speaker 2: We haven't covered this as much as maybe our audience

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Speaker 2: would have expected because it's just been this time, it's

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Speaker 2: been a stasis. But you're telling us it's a lot

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Speaker 2: of pieces in motion, and we're going to be keeping

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Speaker 2: a closer eye at the coming days. Tom, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 11: Thank you gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Good conversation is about respect. It's how we create a

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Speaker 2: TikTok turns connection into community through small acts of understanding.

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Speaker 2: You can feel it in the comments and the thank

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Speaker 2: a smart guy and a thinker. We're gonna be talking

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Speaker 2: about something else. Congress Scott passed yesterday and that was

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Speaker 2: the NDAA and inside of that, there are some provisions

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Speaker 2: that have caused a lot of controversy, and the one

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Speaker 2: that's getting the most attention is section two nineteen. But

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Speaker 2: there's another section six twenty two that I actually think

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Speaker 2: I have more issues with, and we're gonna unpack that

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Speaker 2: with Orin McIntyre right now, orin welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, So why don't you explain to nineteen and

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Speaker 2: six twenty two Orrin, and we will unpack them from there.

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Speaker 7: So two nineteen is getting all the attention. That's the

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Speaker 7: one that just past the house, and a lot of

742
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Speaker 7: people are saying that this is totally integrating the Israeli

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Speaker 7: military and the US military. We're merging both of these forces,

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Speaker 7: and that's not correct. What this is is a way

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Speaker 7: in which we can work with each other on different

746
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Speaker 7: dynamics when it comes to logistics chains, developing of technologies,

747
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Speaker 7: a lot of integration when it comes to looking at

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Speaker 7: AI drones, cybersecurity, possibly even things like directed energy weapons.

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Speaker 7: This is an agreement that looks a lot like the

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Speaker 7: kind of things we have, but they are NATO countries.

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Speaker 7: The only problem is we're not actually in a technical

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Speaker 7: alliance with Israel. We don't have any real documents drawn

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Speaker 7: up that ultimately put us in some kind of defense

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Speaker 7: treaty with Israel, and the other half of this is, well,

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Speaker 7: we were kind of trying to get out of NATO, right,

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Speaker 7: We've been talking about how it isn't great that we're

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Speaker 7: integrated with all these other countries that they're relying on

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Speaker 7: us for their defense, and this looks an awful like

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Speaker 7: we're kind of reinstantiating NATO, but only between US and Israel.

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Speaker 7: So it's not anything as hyperbolic as people make it

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Speaker 7: out to be, but it is still I think a

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Speaker 7: step in the wrong direction, especially under the area of cybersecurity,

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Speaker 7: because we do know that Israel does spy on the

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Speaker 7: United States. Some people justify that and say, hey, every

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Speaker 7: nation's going to do that. Some people say, you know, no,

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Speaker 7: that's terrible. But either way, I don't think we should

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Speaker 7: be integrating cybersecurity with a nation that ultimately has a record.

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Speaker 10: Of spying on us.

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Speaker 7: I also am strongly of the belief that Machiavelli is

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Speaker 7: right about politics and foreign mercenaries and foreign auxiliaries. You

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Speaker 7: never should fight a war with other people's troops, other

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Speaker 7: people's technology, because you are not sovereign over them. You

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Speaker 7: are dependent on something you do not control. And when

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Speaker 7: we are talking about eliminating redundancies like two nineteen does.

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Speaker 7: What we're really saying is we're gonna not make some

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Speaker 7: of these things. We're gonna give the Israelis the opportunity

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Speaker 7: to build them or work on them. Those kind of

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Speaker 7: things integrate them. And so we don't want to be

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Speaker 7: dependent on any Israeli technology, not because there is really,

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Speaker 7: but because we just shouldn't be dependent on anyone else.

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Speaker 7: As we learn from COVID when we didn't produce antibiotics

782
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Speaker 7: or ventilators, that's not great for us. So I think

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Speaker 7: two nineteen is probably a poor decision, but it's not

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Speaker 7: as distressing as six twenty two. Now, six twenty two

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Speaker 7: is a Senate provision, so it is separate and has

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Speaker 7: not passed yet. Because this has not passed the Senate,

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Speaker 7: it would most likely end up in reconciliation if both

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Speaker 7: of these were going to move forward. And what six

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Speaker 7: point twenty two does is it requires intelligence sharing with

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Speaker 7: Israel unless the President goes to Congress and specifically asks

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Speaker 7: to not have to do that. So what it does

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Speaker 7: is it automates all intelligence sharing with the Israelis, and

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Speaker 7: it removes the article to authority of the president to

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Speaker 7: have control of intelligence. He has to go back to

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Speaker 7: Congress in order to say no, I'm going to stop

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Speaker 7: sharing that intelligence again. I just think that it is

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Speaker 7: bad to have an automatic position where the president does

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Speaker 7: not have control over intelligence agencies and instead there's more

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Speaker 7: power now in the deep state if this passes to

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Speaker 7: control the flow of intelligence unless the president can literally

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Speaker 7: go to Congress and get approval to do his job.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's all really well stated. Go ahead,

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Speaker 2: But that's all well.

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Speaker 4: That second part there just limiting the president's ability to

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Speaker 4: make decisions on what seems to me a very core

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Speaker 4: national security matter. There is there an argument in favor

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Speaker 4: of this. Is it one of those things in Congress

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Speaker 4: that sort of got slipped in somewhere along along the

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Speaker 4: way and a lot of people don't know what they're

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Speaker 4: voting for. Are they making the case for why this

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Speaker 4: is so important? I guess is it? Probably? I'm thinking

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Speaker 4: of it up on the fly. Are they basically worried

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Speaker 4: we'll have a DSA president and the future who tries

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Speaker 4: to shut this down and they want to block that preemptively?

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Speaker 3: But just how did this come about? What's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 7: I think the benign argument would be that this simply

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Speaker 7: automates a process that's ongoing anyway. We're already allies with Israel,

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Speaker 7: We're already sharing intelligence on a regular basis, and so

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Speaker 7: this just was out the process. We have five Eyes

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Speaker 7: agreements with other nations, and this would create a similar

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Speaker 7: scenario except for this thing where it inhibits the president

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Speaker 7: from stopping this unless he gets the congressional action.

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Speaker 10: I do think that the.

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Speaker 7: Motivation for both of these is ultimately to kind of

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Speaker 7: remove the Israeli relationship from the democratic process. As you said,

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Speaker 7: there's a high possibility that Democrats and well, frankly in

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Speaker 7: a decade maybe even the Republicans would not be huge

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Speaker 7: fans of close integration with Israel. And what this does

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Speaker 7: is make that automatic and makes it creates a level

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Speaker 7: of bureaucracy that is hard to overcome in order to

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Speaker 7: stop it. And this is where the deep state comes in.

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Speaker 7: This is where we get the deep states automating all

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Speaker 7: of these processes, removing them from the constitutional authority that's

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Speaker 7: vested in either the Congress or the president, and instead

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Speaker 7: making sure that the bureaucracies automatically carry out these agendas

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Speaker 7: no matter who gets elected. So I do think there's

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Speaker 7: a little bit of hedging here. And this is why

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Speaker 7: I've heard from many people that many people in the

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Speaker 7: White House and the government Pentagon they don't really want this.

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Speaker 7: They're already working with Israel. They don't need any kind

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Speaker 7: of encouragement to so. So it feels like there is

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Speaker 7: the pressure is really coming from the Congress, the legislators

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Speaker 7: who are interested in locking that position away from presidential

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Speaker 7: authority rather than the president or you know, the current

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Speaker 7: Pentagon looking to make this change.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you've made some really tremendous points

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Speaker 2: here or I and I would just say I checked

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Speaker 2: with my sources to your last point there with the

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Speaker 2: Department of War, and basically their position is we don't

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Speaker 2: need this. We're already working very closely with Israel. I

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Speaker 2: think the other so our own Department of War. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I can't underscore that enough doesn't want this deal. Their

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Speaker 2: official position is there against this. The other thing that

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Speaker 2: I think was a really good point to Blake's earlier

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Speaker 2: point was this stripping of article to power from the

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Speaker 2: president to do what he feels his best. Now that

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Speaker 2: might be you know, inconsequential right now with President Trump

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Speaker 2: in the White House. But it does feel like a

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Speaker 2: hedging for potential future Democrat presidents and ensuring that this

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Speaker 2: sort of alliance stays intact. I see it on multiple levels.

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Speaker 2: Multiple things can be true, namely that Israel can be

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Speaker 2: really freaking good at making military tech. I mean, they

864
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Speaker 2: got lasers that are shooting down drones, and there could

865
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: be some economies of scale, there could be some advantages there.

866
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: But what you said was very important. It's essentially an

867
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: agreement that we will not make certain aspects of our

868
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: own military tech. That feels like a recipe for disaster

869
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: potentially down the road, and I don't love that. And

870
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: then again on the intel sharing, we're already sharing intel,

871
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: but we can turn it off, turn it on. They

872
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: do spy on us, we probably spy on them. It

873
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: feels like the lines need to be very clear. Israel

874
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: is amazing at fighting its wars. We can learn things

875
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: from them. We do learn things from them. But here's

876
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: my last point. We really haven't touched on this yet.

877
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: Israel needs its own read them obviously from a practical standpoint,

878
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: but from an optic standpoint, they cannot be perceived as

879
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: a vassal state of the United States, either domestically or internationally.

880
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: People cannot see them that way. And I think that's

881
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: really really critical because this these sections could give the impression,

882
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 2: even though we said it's overblown, that that is the case,

883
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: that they are just a vassal state of the United States.

884
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: So these for all these reasons and more, I am

885
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: against the both section two nineteen and six twenty two.

886
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: But six point twenty two is the real poison pill here,

887
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: and I just want to reiterate something two things can

888
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: be true at once. This is not an anti Israel. Position.

889
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: This is a pro America position. This is a what

890
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: makes sense position, And six point twenty two strips the

891
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: president of Article two authorities that that that's kind of insane.

892
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: The question now becomes does it have a chance of

893
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: passing in the Senate? And what are you hearing on that.

894
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 10: It's a difficult question.

895
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously we know that the House just passed

896
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 7: two nineteen and six twenty two is part of the

897
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 7: Senate bill, so it would even have to go through

898
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 7: the reconciliation process. It might not survive that as well.

899
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 7: I do think that it is probably likely to eventually

900
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 7: get past but I hope that is not the case.

901
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 7: And the problem really is the frame that this sets.

902
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 7: As you noted before we went to break, this is

903
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 7: bad for America and Israel.

904
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 10: This is bad for sovereignty across the board.

905
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 7: And right now AOC is out there yelling about two

906
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 7: nineteen saying that it's selling our entire military out to Israel,

907
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 7: that it's merging our forces and handing over all our sovereignty.

908
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 7: And while that's a really big overstatement, ultimately she gets

909
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 7: to make that argument because the Right is making bad decisions.

910
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 7: They're making decisions that don't seem to benefit America first.

911
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 7: And so while I think her argument is hyperbolic, and

912
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 7: those hyperbolic arguments don't help us to understand the nuances

913
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 7: of what's actually occurring here, that doesn't mean that we

914
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 7: should reflexively just support the thing, because I do think

915
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 7: there are very serious problems here. Again, we are working

916
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 7: from a point of nationalism, and what I'm hearing more

917
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 7: and more from both Israeli nationalists and American nationalists is

918
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 7: that it does not benefit either country to be dependent

919
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 7: on each other. But we both need our sovereignty, we

920
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 7: both need our respect, we both need our authority, and

921
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 7: that can happen when we're integrating all of our systems

922
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 7: that's set such a close level. That's the opposite of sovereignty.

923
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 7: So I think for the sake of both nations, we

924
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 7: need to encourage our senators to reject this imposition on

925
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 7: the president and his authority. Like I said, I don't

926
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 7: think the White House wants this. I don't think the

927
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 7: military wants this. I think this is just a move

928
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 7: by legislators who have some our ulterior motives, or perhaps

929
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 7: they think they're doing the right thing by protecting an

930
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 7: ally by removing it from the democratic process. But ultimately

931
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 7: this is something that is going to read terribly for

932
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 7: both the US and Israel in the pr war and

933
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 7: in the idea that we're currently involved in this conflict.

934
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 7: I just don't think it's wise at this moment to

935
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 7: a shrine a relationship that many people are saying we

936
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 7: should probably disentangle and allow for sovereignty on both ends.

937
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 4: Or I talked about this with Charlie often, and I

938
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 4: think we're all aware there's a lot of anti Israel

939
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: sentiment rising on the right. There's also just a rise

940
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: of anti Semitism on the right, and what I argued

941
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 4: with him, is I think a lot of this just

942
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 4: comes from it's not and implicit they're always going to

943
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 4: hate them. It's that a lot of young people they've

944
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: grow up and they just they feel like they've seen

945
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 4: story after story where lawmakers are just literally prioritizing a

946
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: foreign country, or where it feels like like we're basically

947
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 4: our country is being a sucker. And I think that

948
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: if you just dial back that aspect of feeling like

949
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 4: we're suckers, they would get over this and they would

950
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 4: be fine with having them as an ally in the

951
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 4: Middle East.

952
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: But these these kind of weird acts.

953
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 4: Where they're creating a relationship that doesn't exist with literally

954
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: any other country, seems it's what creates a lot of

955
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 4: the bad blood.

956
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 10: I agree on one hundred percent.

957
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 7: I think it's not even often Israeli official saying anything

958
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 7: that's the problem. You have politicians, American politicians saying I

959
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 7: only went into Congress to fight for Israel. You have

960
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 7: people like Tammy Bruce as a spokesman for the United

961
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 7: States government saying, actually, I think America is the best

962
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 7: country in the world except for Israel.

963
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 10: Like that's just not healthy.

964
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 7: That looks bad for everybody, and I don't think anyone

965
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 7: in Israel asked Tammy Bruce to say that.

966
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 10: But when you have people.

967
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 7: Going out and saying that, you can see why young

968
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 7: people look at this and say this is just not

969
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 7: a good relationship to be in.

970
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 10: I agree that ultimately what we have to.

971
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 7: Do, what must be done, is we must decouple the

972
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 7: government of Israel from the idea of all Jewish people.

973
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 7: It is not fair to judge all Jewish people by

974
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 7: the government Israel, or the government of Israel by Jewish people.

975
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 7: These are not one and the same. These are not

976
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 7: the same category. And you can have concerns about a

977
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 7: relationship with Israel, could have concerns with actions of the

978
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 7: Israeli government and be fine with Jewish people in the.

979
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 10: United States and abroad. This is just not healthy to

980
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 10: have this idea.

981
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 7: If Americans criticize their government, they're not attacking the American people.

982
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 7: If someone says, hey, I like Israel, I think it's

983
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 7: an ally in many ways. But ultimately there are aspects

984
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 7: of this relationship that are unhealthy. That is not anti Semitism,

985
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 7: that is not an attack on the American people. And

986
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 7: by the way, Charlie was attacked as an anti Semite

987
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 7: for voicing exactly this belief. And I think if he

988
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 7: has the courage to go out and say the things

989
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 7: that he said about that relationship, we should be able

990
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 7: to do the same. Charlie loved Israel, he loved the

991
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 7: Jewish people, and no one believed except the worst possible

992
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 7: actors who were trying to smear him, that some criticism

993
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 7: unhealthy aspects of that relationship is an attack on Jewish

994
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 7: people in general.

995
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 10: I think that just has to be the standard going forward.

996
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. He actually devoted, to Blake's point,

997
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: he devoted a ton of energy to making sure there

998
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 2: was this sort of third option. You're not either four

999
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: or against. There's multiple multiple spots in between where you

1000
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: can still be four Israel for the Jewish people, but

1001
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: be able to point out legitimate criticisms or have critiques

1002
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 2: about the arrangement, right, And I think that's great. I

1003
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: just want to I want to reiterate something here. The

1004
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: Department of War is against this section two nineteen and

1005
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: six twenty two. That should tell you everything you need

1006
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: to know. We already have a very close working relationship.

1007
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: The thing that as I've been sitting here pondering or

1008
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: in yeah, six twenty two, this intel sharing mandating it

1009
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: stripping Article two powers from the president, massive mass and

1010
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: poison pill. But the other part of it, we've just

1011
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: seen this play out so many times. If you give

1012
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: America the option to not develop or manufacture certain aspects,

1013
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 2: whether it's a chip or it's a piece a component

1014
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: that goes into a missile or a plane, we will

1015
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: stop doing it. What happens when our interests diverged with

1016
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 2: Israel in the future, because they've diverged with the UK,

1017
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: they've diverged with austral Tell you where we have similar arrangements.

1018
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: Will that be a leverage point to force us into

1019
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 2: certain actions. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm

1020
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: saying you're opening the door for something like that to happen,

1021
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: and then we don't make the peace that we need. Okay.

1022
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: I just this thing is bad optically in it and

1023
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: I think it's in the wrong direction or in McIntyre,

1024
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. Always a pleasure, my friend.

1025
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 10: Thanks again, guys.

1026
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Speaker 2: resident expert.

1048
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Speaker 4: I believe this is true, and I feel like you're

1049
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 4: a big WNBA enthusiast, Like every time it is a

1050
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 4: WNBO story, you're really fired up.

1051
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: You know what the record of the meur is tell

1052
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: the truth. I genuinely don't.

1053
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: I will tell you to be perfectly clear. I always

1054
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: have to think if the name is actually right. Alex,

1055
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: welcome back to the show, my friend. Without further ado,

1056
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: You've been waiting patiently.

1057
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 10: I'm super excited to talk.

1058
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 12: I'm super excited to talk women's sports with you guys.

1059
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: Okay, well listen, you are our resident expert on the

1060
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 2: w NBA. Besides, regardless of what Blake wants you to believe,

1061
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: I know very little. But here's a.

1062
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 12: Huge Brittany Hicks fan. I mean, we're all big Britney

1063
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 12: Hicks fans over here.

1064
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 10: So with the audience, will okay, hold on there, We'll

1065
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 10: get it.

1066
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 2: So we have to Yeah, we have to actually get

1067
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: the Shane Gillis moment. I think it was like you

1068
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 2: got it, you got it, he shouts out the w NBA.

1069
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: Please get that clip that the w NBA star in

1070
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: the in the row. We'll play that as soon as

1071
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: we have it, So Sophie, Sophie Cunningham says, hey, men

1072
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: shouldn't be in women's sports, and it's become like a

1073
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: whole thing because I I don't know, like when we

1074
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: tell you that woke is not dead, it's just paused.

1075
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 2: It's dormant while President Trump is in office. This is

1076
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: clue number eight hundred and seventy eight thousand. Okay, let's

1077
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: go ahead and play. So she gets asked by this

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Speaker 2: and she had a great answer, Sophie Cunningham. We really

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Speaker 2: like what she's about, what she's doing. Top five.

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Speaker 13: On that same vein and that story with ESPN, you

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Speaker 13: talked about wanting to protect young girls who shouldn't have

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Speaker 13: to go against biological men.

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Speaker 2: Just can you expand your viewpoint on that?

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Speaker 13: I mean, I think I said what I said. I

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Speaker 13: think it's kind of common sense, and I think I'll

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Speaker 13: always believe in that. I think it's really important to

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Speaker 13: protect children, and that's little girls who are also involved

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Speaker 13: in that category. And so I stand on what I

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Speaker 13: said and I always believe that.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Alex, the controversy doesn't end there, because

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Speaker 2: you know, we had to get somebody from the view

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Speaker 2: chiming in. In this case it's Meghan Rappano who lost

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Speaker 2: a soccer match to fifteen year old boys. But that's fine,

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Speaker 2: she's got something to say here. Tot six.

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Speaker 14: They're going after trans people in sports, and they're using

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Speaker 14: this as a wedge issue because we love sports, and

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Speaker 14: you know, we don't want our little girls to be

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Speaker 14: unsafe in sports.

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Speaker 7: And it's like.

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Speaker 13: Unsafe from who?

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Speaker 14: But okay, but now we're using this as like an

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Speaker 14: overarching thing, when really what we're attacking women. We're saying

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Speaker 14: if you look like this as a woman, you can play.

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Speaker 2: Not if you look if you are a woman.

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Speaker 10: Wasn't that guy in the Odyssey?

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Speaker 12: But wasn't that guy in the Odyssey, by the way,

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Speaker 12: the one you just played, the little guy with the

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Speaker 12: blonde here like the safe saying no the So first

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Speaker 12: of all, I hate all this because I want Sophie Cunningham.

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Speaker 12: Sounds totally rational, very brave of her to stand up

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Speaker 12: and make this point. But this is getting me further

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Speaker 12: away from my ultimate goal, which is I want to

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Speaker 12: see five guys who are former or current NBA players

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Speaker 12: just announce that their women go down the NBA and

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Speaker 12: just run up the score and just see how big

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Speaker 12: of a blowout.

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Speaker 2: You we could get.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, exactly, I want to see. I'm an accelerationist in

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Speaker 12: this regard. I will not rest until five guys dominate

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Speaker 12: the WNBA and bring home a championship. And so until

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Speaker 12: I see that, then I'm not going to be satisfied

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Speaker 12: with the woke moment. So I'm pretty upset about this

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Speaker 12: because she sounds totally rational and normal, and we're all

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Speaker 12: gonna have to talk about this because it's a positive

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Speaker 12: for girls. But come on, guys, we could see the

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Speaker 12: biggest blowout in WNBA history if we just take this

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Speaker 12: experiment just one more step further with the appropriation of

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Speaker 12: women's sports by men.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree we should do. They don't even have

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Speaker 2: to be like, you know, starters from the NBA. We'll

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Speaker 2: get the back bench.

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Speaker 4: I think the freshman all star team of like high

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Speaker 4: school like high school freshmen, I think could probably win

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Speaker 4: the w NBA.

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Speaker 10: I would like to, I mean, with Megan, I would

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Speaker 10: like to see that.

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Speaker 12: But all in all seriousness, yes, sovietning m it's very

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Speaker 12: brave what she said, and if you listen the full explanation,

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Speaker 12: she says, it's because I'm protecting girls and I think

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Speaker 12: girls should have a place where they do well in sports.

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Speaker 12: And we've always talked about this as a society that

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Speaker 12: we want girls to be able to be treated equally.

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Speaker 12: It doesn't treat them equally if you let men come

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Speaker 12: in and win the sport. And she knows she's going

1145
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Speaker 12: to get hatred for this, and she still went out

1146
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 12: and said it, and that's awesome. It's actually and here's

1147
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Speaker 12: a hot take for you. I think it's actually cooler

1148
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Speaker 12: than her pointing in a humorous way at another player.

1149
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Speaker 12: But I will back all this up by saying, yet again,

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Speaker 12: we're talking about the WNBA and it has nothing to

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Speaker 12: do with anything that's happening on the court. It only

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00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 12: has to do with the political stuff that happens in

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Speaker 12: between plays. It's never about their skill as basketball players.

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Speaker 12: And I do find that amusing.

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Speaker 2: Well, the question is you know what skill? Genuinely, I

1156
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Speaker 2: will take it back. Caitlin Clark is the most skilled

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Speaker 2: WNBA player that I've seen. That she plays like a guy,

1158
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Speaker 2: like she can actually compete. I'm blown away. Sopha Cunningham's

1159
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Speaker 2: apparently very good, but there are skilled players I'm being

1160
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Speaker 2: a little harsh, but yeah, your point is apt Like

1161
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: the WNBA still can't get its act together and make money.

1162
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Speaker 2: It exists at the you know, because of the largesse

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Speaker 2: of the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Well we should push back on that. We should push

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Speaker 3: back on that a little. I will.

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Speaker 4: I will say as much as I dump on the WNBA.

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Speaker 4: I'm not an avid follower like Andrew. What I will

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Speaker 4: say is it is a testament to American greatness and American.

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Speaker 3: Enthusiasm and how go get her.

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Speaker 4: We are that we made women's college basketball a thing

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Speaker 4: a lot of people follow and care about. I have

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Speaker 4: a friend, his boomer parents are just die hard Yukon

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Speaker 4: women's basketball fans, and he follows them, and I believe

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Speaker 4: the WNBA, like actually has real attendance.

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Speaker 3: Now thanks to Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 4: She's on the apparently she's on the cover of the

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Speaker 4: new NBA video game that you can play if you

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Speaker 4: get the deluxe edition. She's the cover athlete. They still

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Speaker 4: call it NBA, but they did put a w on

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Speaker 4: the cover. I just feel like it's an American accomplishment

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Speaker 4: that we're so into sports that we made a somewhat

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Speaker 4: inferior product.

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Speaker 3: But aimed at women, an actual thing.

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Speaker 4: That is constantly thrown at me when I visit ESPN,

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01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 4: and they haven't given up yet.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem, though, this is like now bleeding into

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Speaker 2: the White House press briefing room. This is like, this

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Speaker 2: is getting out of hand, like Top seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Sofia Cunningham and.

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Speaker 5: The end WNBA has been attacked as a maga barbie

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Speaker 5: for saying it's common sense for men to not be

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Speaker 5: in women's sports and locker rooms.

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Speaker 14: Is the President following this story?

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Speaker 5: I know he is following the story, as you know.

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Speaker 5: This is something the President feels strongly about as well,

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Speaker 5: and the American people do too, that men should not

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Speaker 5: be playing in women's sports. It's completely ludicrous that anyone

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Speaker 5: could support that. It's even more ludicrous that you do

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Speaker 5: have Sophia Cunningham, a female athlete herself very accomplished in

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Speaker 5: her own right, coming forth and speaking that truth that

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Speaker 5: men shouldn't play in women's sports. We want to protect

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01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 5: women and girls, and the backlash she is receiving from

1203
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 5: Democrats and left wing fingers across the country is astonishing.

1204
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 5: They are clearly very out of touch with the American

1205
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 5: public on this issue. Which again is an eighty twenty issue.

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Speaker 5: It's common sense, it's rooted in basic biological fact.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think Maga Barbie actually has a

1208
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: nice ring to it. Alex.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's great, it's great.

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Speaker 12: It's all good and also is funny how Trump is

1211
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Speaker 12: now just a constant fixture in sports. He got FIFA

1212
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 12: to change their roles. There was a report that after

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Speaker 12: Bryson Deshambeau got assessed at two shot penalty the British

1214
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 12: Open over the weekend, he wanted to call Trump and

1215
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Speaker 12: get Trump the way in over a British golf tournament.

1216
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Speaker 12: I mean, it is just he just looms large over everything.

1217
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Speaker 12: That's where we're at, and I'm here for it. The

1218
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,479
Speaker 12: entertainment value just through the roof.

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Speaker 2: Well you saw that with the Spain team when they

1220
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Speaker 2: won the World Cup. They wanted President Trump to be

1221
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Speaker 2: out there.

1222
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Speaker 3: Trump.

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Speaker 2: They were all doing the Trump dance. Yeah, and there

1224
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Speaker 2: was actually what I think the guy who scored the

1225
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: winning goal actually was wearing a Make Spain Great Again hat. Yes,

1226
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Speaker 2: during the parade. So You're so right, he looms so

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Speaker 2: large and you know I'm here for But all that

1228
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Speaker 2: being said, to wrap this up, in a nice bow here, gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: the whole thing is ludicrous. It makes me sad that

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Speaker 2: we are still dealing with this issue that should have

1231
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: been put to bed a while ago. And I just

1232
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: want to reiterate, Evil never sleeps. Woke is not dead.

1233
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: It's just sleeping. It's dormant. I shouldn't say it's sleeping

1234
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 2: because I just said evil never sleeps. But they are

1235
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Speaker 2: going to mount a comeback and they will try and

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Speaker 2: regain territory here. The fact that Megan Rappino goes on

1237
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: there and says that men, you know, banning men and

1238
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: women's sports is an attack on women. That's how crazy

1239
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 2: these people are. It's completely ludicrous. But Sophie Cunningham is

1240
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Speaker 2: a national treasure.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm happy there's finally a WNBA story that

1242
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 4: I can get excited about.

1243
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Speaker 3: As excited as as you are, Andrew.

1244
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Speaker 4: All the time, because I know you are deeply you're

1245
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 4: deeply passionate about it, even if you have to hide it,

1246
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 4: even if you have to suppress it.

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Speaker 3: We know you love it. We know you're super excited.

1248
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Speaker 2: Alex. Did you know that that Blake does not have

1249
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: a Do you know that Blake does not own his

1250
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 2: own girl.

1251
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Speaker 3: I have girl.

1252
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Speaker 2: I used the girl last night.

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Speaker 12: It's the it's I had heard that, which is a disgrace.

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Speaker 12: I might add that that is an absolutely I'm going

1255
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Speaker 12: to fix it for him.

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Speaker 10: I don't need to pile a lot.

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Speaker 12: I feel like Blake was a conscientious objector to the

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Speaker 12: w NBA segment anyway, so now and I was just

1259
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Speaker 12: really piling on. But I think overall just to recap

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Speaker 12: seriousness aside her argument, Sophie Cunningham's argument, which is that

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Speaker 12: this protects girls to keep guys out of sports.

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Speaker 10: Isn't that the logical one?

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Speaker 3: Isn't anyone who.

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Speaker 10: Refutes that kind of retarded?

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Speaker 2: Well said, hi, folks, Andrew Colvett. Here, I'd like to

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Speaker 2: probably been hearing me talk about y REFI for some time.

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Speaker 2: take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're

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Speaker 2: don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why REFI

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Speaker 2: you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back.

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Speaker 2: We go to campuses all over America and we see

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Speaker 2: student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt.

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Speaker 2: Many of them don't even know how much they owe.

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Speaker 2: Just go to yrefi dot com and tell them your

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Speaker 2: friend Andrews sent you. Alex. I want to tear our

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Speaker 2: attention to the DSA rise because it's something that is

1286
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Speaker 2: causing a lot of stir and I'm pretty amazed. Actually,

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Speaker 2: it's just how popular they are within the grassroots of

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. Let's go ahead, play a clip from

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Speaker 2: James Carville to get us into this segment three.

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Speaker 15: And these people are paternalistic and it's a bunch of

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Speaker 15: over educated, little white turds who think they know more

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Speaker 15: than other people know.

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Speaker 12: They think they know.

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Speaker 3: More than you do.

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Speaker 15: You should do these people with extreme, extreme skepticism.

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Speaker 2: He calls them little white turds. And then you get

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Speaker 2: this interesting clip from a quote from Punch Built Bowld

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Speaker 2: News from Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina, who's obviously

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Speaker 2: a black man. He said, I saw a picture that

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Speaker 2: concerned me coming out of Michigan. And he's of course

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Speaker 2: looking at lsied race there, which is a he's a

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Speaker 2: far left radical Muslim DSA supported candidate for Senate. I

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Speaker 2: saw a picture that concerned me coming out of Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I saw the rally. I didn't see a single person

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Speaker 2: that looks like me. That tells me all I need

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Speaker 2: to know. So you got, we're calling them white turds.

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Speaker 2: Clyburn's worried there's no diversity. It does seem like the

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Speaker 2: rise of DSA is really the rise of entitled white

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Speaker 2: radical progressives.

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Speaker 4: It's clear like this is a manifestation of the race

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Speaker 4: obsession on the left. Like a lot of their biggest

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Speaker 4: ideological left wingers, they're really far on the left. They're

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Speaker 4: more open to the socialism, outright communism stuff, yet they've

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Speaker 4: also been marinating in race politics for so long. If

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Speaker 4: you're on the left, you can't really view your movement

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Speaker 4: as fully legitimate unless you have the right number of

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Speaker 4: brown faces to prove that you're a pan ethnic coalition,

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Speaker 4: or you know that you're not white. Basically, they all

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Speaker 4: merining in this, but I do want to pushback.

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Speaker 3: It annoys me.

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Speaker 4: I don't want us to just say, oh, it's a

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Speaker 4: bunch of spoiled white kids, because then we're practically indulging

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Speaker 4: the same thing. And it also I think it pushes

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Speaker 4: a myth that black Hispanic Asian Democrat voters are not

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Speaker 4: going to vote for this if it becomes the new

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Speaker 4: party orthodoxy. A lot of the time, the people who

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Speaker 4: back this in big cities, they're just they're part of

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Speaker 4: the Democrat patronage apparatus. They make sure that, oh, every

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Speaker 4: time a Democrat wins, we get a new pay raise

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Speaker 4: for public employees for you know, we get all these

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Speaker 4: like union carve outs, like they're all part of this apparatus,

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Speaker 4: and they just don't want someone to mess it up.

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Speaker 4: And that's usually the biggest reason I think they're not

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Speaker 4: getting on board with like really radical DSA stuff. They

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Speaker 4: just they think the current system's great. They don't want

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Speaker 4: to mess it up too much.

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Speaker 3: But it is very.

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Speaker 4: Revealing of how long the left has been stuck in

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Speaker 4: this race. Cul de sac that when radical ideas pop up,

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Speaker 4: the first thing that comes to mind is are the

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Speaker 4: people pushing it white or not? The best argument against

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Speaker 4: it is the people pushing it are insane and they're

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Speaker 4: going to destroy America. That's how I feel about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, and here's my big problem with this. We talk

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Speaker 2: about l SI ed a lot of our audience. Probably

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Speaker 2: this is my fault in Blake's fault, sure, but we

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01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 2: don't talk about the Republican candidate enough. And so part

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Speaker 2: of this, you know, I do think you know, people

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Speaker 2: are now saying AOC's probably gonna run for president, and

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Speaker 2: she's got this great chance to win. Part of her

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Speaker 2: notoriety is because she was an easy punching bag for

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Speaker 2: us on the right, because she said all of these

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Speaker 2: obscene things. ELSI da saying it, mom Donnie saying, we're

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Speaker 2: making them more famous. But here's candidate Mike Rogers out

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Speaker 2: of Michigan, who has a real shot of winning, especially

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Speaker 2: if Elsi had wins the primary. Here it's Nott sixteen.

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Speaker 8: We think we do better against both. Have to remember,

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Speaker 8: I mean, one is obviously more radical. Abduel Is I

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Speaker 8: think far too radical to be a serious Would he

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01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 8: be a better match for you. I think we're going

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Speaker 8: to win on both of them. I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 8: They both support doing away with guest powered cars and

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Speaker 8: making you drive an ev the government man in Michigan.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah. They both believe that men should be in

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Speaker 8: women's sports. They both believe in high taxes. They both

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Speaker 8: oppose the overtime taxes relief that the President gave us.

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Speaker 8: By the way, we have three million Michigan working families

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Speaker 8: that are benefiting from no tax on overtime. They want

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Speaker 8: to put it back. So those things are the same.

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Speaker 8: We can do very very well because we're making that

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Speaker 8: contrast of the high cost of living, poor education, loss

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Speaker 8: of manufacturing jobs under Democrat leadership in Michigan. We're going

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Speaker 8: to change that.

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Speaker 2: We got to get this guy over the finish line

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Speaker 2: in Michigan, and there are headwinds, Alex. This whole thing

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Speaker 2: makes me think of a question for you, and I

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Speaker 2: just want to be very clear. I think the rise

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Speaker 2: of DSA is a terrible development for the country. I

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Speaker 2: think it reveals an underlying rot within the body politic

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Speaker 2: that these ideas that have been tried historically and failed

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Speaker 2: again and again and again and led to despair, destruction,

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Speaker 2: and death and misery. In the twentieth century, they're being

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Speaker 2: re imagined, reinvented. I think it's a terrible thing, but

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Speaker 2: it does provide a political opportunity, at least in the

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Speaker 2: short run, while enough of us still have our senses

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Speaker 2: about us to fight this, and it could get people

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Speaker 2: like Mike Rodgers into the US Senate. Do you agree

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Speaker 2: or disagree?

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Speaker 12: I totally agree. It is very high stakes, but it

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Speaker 12: does make it so that it is they're more beatable

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Speaker 12: and we should be historically weak right now, but I

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Speaker 12: don't think we are because their candidates there're not charismatic,

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Speaker 12: and their ideology is not coherent.

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Speaker 10: That they're pro super gay, but.

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Speaker 12: They're also pro Islamists now, which is random. And they

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Speaker 12: are socialists, but they want of an open border, which

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Speaker 12: is impossible one or the other, but again of both.

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Speaker 12: And this racial stuff that Blake is talking about is

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Speaker 12: really important here because it's really about coalition mobilization. It's

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Speaker 12: not just about making all politics about race in a

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Speaker 12: dei sense. It's about they know in order to move voters,

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Speaker 12: they move blocks of people by race. And Carville is

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Speaker 12: making a claim the Democrat establishment is going to keep

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Speaker 12: those races, those blocks of racial voters. So it's not

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Speaker 12: just about, oh, this sounds very woke. There's more to

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Speaker 12: it than that. This is actual politics that we're talking

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Speaker 12: about here, and it is a big chance for Republicans

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Speaker 12: because I don't I've haven't seen them this disconnected as

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Speaker 12: a movement in my whole life.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's I don't think it's incoherent. I'll

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Speaker 4: disagree with you there. They can be pro Islam, Islamist

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Speaker 4: and pro LGBT. They can be pro open borders and

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Speaker 4: pro socialism because both of those things are things that

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Speaker 4: allow you to destroy America, destroy the things that made

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Speaker 4: it successful for so long. It's almost the politics are

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Speaker 4: beside the point. What's really is it's the id, it's

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Speaker 4: the will to destroy. It's this resentment based gut feeling,

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Speaker 4: and they'll seize anything that can.

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Speaker 3: Let them tear it down. That's why it's scary.

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Speaker 4: But there is an opportunity to get great guys like

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Speaker 4: Mike Rodgers into the Senate.

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Speaker 3: Alex, thank you for joining us. We'll see you very soon.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure check out your local WNBA team to make

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Speaker 4: Andrew happy.

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Speaker 3: We'll see all of you tomorrow.

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