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Now let's roll. 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: What's going on everybody and welcome back into the Built 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: Different Podcast. As always, I'll be your host today, doctor 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: Zach Clinton, that helpe and pray each and every one 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: of you had a blessed weekend. And let me start 25 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: out by saying happy June June is actually recognized. It's 26 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: kind of a transition period out of what we just 27 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: did in the month of May mental Health Awareness Month. 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: We had a lot of guests on to talk about 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: a lot of mental health challenges, a lot of topics 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: revolving around this field, this profession, this space. 31 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: But on top of that, it was Military Appreciation Month. 32 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: We kind of ended the month with a lot of 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: military veterans and heroes who have laid down their lives 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: for yours and for my freedom. June has recognized as 35 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Men's Mental Health Awareness Month, and so over the next 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: several weeks we're going to have guests on that are 37 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: just going to be able to unpack the topic from 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: a perspective of masculinity. Different stories, different testimonies, different roads 39 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: that they've walked through, and a lot of them have 40 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: to deal with mental health and just the challenges that 41 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: they've been able to experience freedom from today. Our very 42 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: special guest is someone who can speak to those very issues, 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: but somebody that through a radical encounter with Jesus everything 44 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: has changed since then. He is an ultrarunner, he is 45 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: a speaker, he is an advocate for mental health, and 46 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 2: he's just a man on a mission, whether it's twenty 47 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: four hours on a treadmill, one hundred mile races, nearly 48 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: two hundred miles across the state of South Carolina, whatever 49 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: it is, this is a dude who has the mentality 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: but also is experiencing and walking in the freedom that 51 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: only God can offer us. Edwin Martin, my friend, thank 52 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: you so much for joining me, bro, thank you so 53 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: much for having me. Dude so drove up from Charleston, 54 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: South Carolina. I want to style it this way. You 55 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: mentioned today at breakfast First Watch out at the First 56 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: Watch as we were eating there this morning, you mentioned 57 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: that you just did it one hundred mile race. 58 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: What just a couple of days ago? 59 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, three days ago, yep. 60 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: Three days ago. How's the body feeling. 61 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: Body feels good, feels recovered for sure. It just takes 62 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: mentally a while to recover from these things. Just your 63 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: central nervous system is just a little bit out of whack. 64 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: But other than that, I feel like just body feels good. 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: I'll probably get a run in today and get back 66 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: to it. 67 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: So help me understand. 68 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: Take me back three days ago when you're running a 69 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: one hundred mile race like that, Like, let's set the 70 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: table for our conversation today, just kind of what goes 71 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: through your mind as you're taking on these endurance challenges 72 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: and races that a lot of people probably can't even 73 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: fathom or even begin to imagine pushing themselves to that end. 74 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: But what's going through your mind is you're running one 75 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: hundred miles? What is that four hundred and some laps 76 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: run a track? 77 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about four hundred and two point three ish. 78 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: I think I got the math right, but yeah, it's 79 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: I think it just starts with me, you know, starting 80 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: from the very beginning. You know, I started with one 81 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: mile and people think I do these crazy races now 82 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: that it just poofed out of nowhere that I didn't, 83 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: you know, put in the time and put in the 84 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 4: work to get there. And now it's just been being 85 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 4: able to, you know, be so present in the one 86 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 4: hundred miles because I've been there before and it's all 87 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: experienced with these things. Just like with anything in life, 88 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: you have to go through it before you you know 89 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: can can do it. So with my mentality with these things, 90 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: just I've been there before. I know what it takes. 91 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 4: I know the pain that's going to come from it. 92 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: It's just how I respond to it, you know, like 93 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: something's going to go wrong, it's just how I respond 94 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: to it in that moment. It's going to defer me 95 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 4: whether I finish that race or whether I don't. And 96 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: I'm at the point in my career now where I'm like, 97 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 4: I know specifically what went wrong if something goes wrong, 98 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: you know, I went eighty four miles this past week 99 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 4: for my stomach decided to flip. And when your stomach 100 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: flips an ultra marathon, you're done for. You're sick, You're 101 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: you're going to be in the bathroom. Your stomach's going 102 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: to be in shambles. It feels like you have knives 103 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: in your stomach. Oh, and that's the beauty the ultra 104 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: marathon is, like you don't it's all training your gut 105 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 4: and it's all just experience going out there and just 106 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 4: seeing what works for your body, because the human body 107 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: is just so wild. Yeah, you can't pinpoint of, well, 108 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 4: what's going wrong within your stomach at eighty four miles 109 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: in just because of so many carbs you're putting in 110 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 4: your body that's fueling yourself to go forward. It's just 111 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 4: it's such a beautiful sport and you learn so much 112 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: from just putting yourself out there. 113 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: It's this idea I can only imagine that you really 114 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 2: can can't outrun your mind, Like I'm just thinking about 115 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: we were talking about sometimes you're having to go to 116 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: like a dark place and push yourself past your comfort zone, 117 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: past your limits. You know, the thoughts that probably are 118 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: rummaging through your mind in those you know mile I 119 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: can't even imagine probably past a marathon right where it's 120 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: just like your mind is racing a million miles an hour. 121 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: Just speak to the battle of the mind here for 122 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: a moment, not just in ultra marathon racing, but more 123 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: specifically in life. 124 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, really good question. 125 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: So for me, like just with my experiences in my 126 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: past and what I've gone through, just know that going 127 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: through the thick of it, like there's a finish line, 128 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: like it's it's gonna it's gonna end. You know that 129 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: suffering is going to end to a point. And that's 130 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 4: the same mentality that I bring into these races. Is 131 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 4: that and specifically why I bring these you know, causes 132 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: into why I do what I do because everything else 133 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: that like the suffering that I'm going through and the 134 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: Treadmill Run and the run across the state is I 135 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: was raising money for people who you know there in 136 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 4: might be today, you know, bite meet tomorrow. So just 137 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: having that in the back of my head of like, 138 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 4: you know, this suffering that I'm experiencing right now, this 139 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: pain is hurt, is going to go away and it's 140 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: just temporary. Knowing that there's people out there waking up 141 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: every single day wanting to end their life, wanting to 142 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: not go another step. So just having that in the 143 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: back of my head of like, you know, if I'm 144 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 4: doing this for someone and encourages someone to keep going 145 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: just one more step, or one more moment, or one 146 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: more minute, or just can say one more thought and 147 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 4: just being encouraged by that, it's a win. And that's 148 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: why I just continue to do these hard things for 149 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: other people, to inspire them, to encourage them, to let 150 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: them know that they matter, and just running is my 151 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: vehicle to let them know that. You know, it's it's 152 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 4: so beautiful that the Lord's allowed me to do so 153 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 4: with running, So I. 154 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: Love because you don't run for the accolades or for 155 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: the affirmation. You're genuinely running for to raise awareness, to 156 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: help people who maybe feel like today might be their 157 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: last day, to remind them that they have a reason 158 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: to stay, that they're loved, that they're seeing, that they're loved, 159 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: that they heard, and that they're known Edwin. What I 160 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: appreciate about you is you use your social media platforms, 161 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: but also any chance you get to just be honest 162 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: and open and vulnerable about your story and your testimony. 163 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: And somebody might be thinking, like, how does somebody get 164 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: to a place where they're so sick in the head 165 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: right that they're right across the state. 166 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: But then I'm just. 167 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: Thinking, for a second, you have a journey that you've 168 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: gone through revolving your mental health, your relational health, your 169 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: spiritual health with God. I'd love for you to take 170 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: us into the backwater of your story if you would. 171 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 172 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: SO grew up as a young kid just with lacking purpose, 173 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: lacking just my identity. 174 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: I had no clue where my identity came from. 175 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: I struggle with self comparison, but I never thought to 176 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: do anything about it. I just constantly was not impressed 177 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: with what I looked in the mirror, and I thought 178 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: that was what I need to be validated by. So 179 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: I literally spent eighteen years my life searching for that 180 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: and trying to find that from other people and the 181 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: way that you know, other people were going to affirm 182 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: me the way that I look, and I just felt 183 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: so condemned by everybody and just boggled up so much. 184 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: For eighteen years, I just never knew how to speak 185 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: up about anything. And it didn't take me until you know, 186 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: I could say back when I my life changed when 187 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: I lost all this weight, But that's completely false because 188 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 4: I did it for all the wrong reasons. You know, 189 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: I lost a lot of weight going into my freshman 190 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: year of college, and I thought that was going to 191 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: be the switch. I thought that was going to be 192 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: the radical change that I needed in my life. I 193 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: was going to be this fit guy going into the citadel. 194 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: I'm going to be the man. You know, I'm going 195 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: into a military school. Let's go. But even more so, 196 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 4: was even more broken before and empty. So just went 197 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 4: through those motions of losing the weight, getting in shape, 198 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: going to a military place or military college, which is 199 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: a dark place. It's just a dark place, just the 200 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: environment that I was in, and you know, being able 201 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: to go through three years or four years of that 202 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: of just you know, going through the motions. I was 203 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: in a military college, but it was basically still a 204 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: normal college experience because we lived for the weekend and 205 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: I did the partying, I did the booze, I did 206 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: the hookup culture, I did every single thing that the 207 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 4: world had to all for me and got involved with 208 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 4: some bad just some gambling stuff, and without me even 209 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 4: being aware of how deep and drawn I was into it, 210 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: I was so far deep into it that I literally 211 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: could not think about anything else. It was that, and 212 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: it was consumed, consume, consume, you know, how can I 213 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 4: consume that next penny or that next person to give 214 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: allow me to make more money in that sense, you know, 215 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 4: And just it's just crazy look back of how the 216 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 4: Lord was pursuing me through that, even in the monks 217 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: of my just drowning in that gambling addiction, because there 218 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 4: were so many people that he put in my life 219 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: at the time that were just like, hey, dude, when 220 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 4: it come to church with me, and just like looking 221 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: back on him just like revealing himself through these other 222 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: people of putting me in the right situations that I 223 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 4: needed to be in. But I was still so blind 224 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 4: to it because I was so drowning in what I 225 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 4: was going in. 226 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: So went through college, did that. 227 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: I took a job at a big distribution company selling wine, 228 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 4: and I was really just unfulfilled with that. I'm like, 229 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: I'm still doing the gambling stuff and all that the 230 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: war had to offer me at that time. Did that 231 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: for about a year, and at this time, I was 232 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: still training to try to become a Navy seal. 233 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: You know, I went to I quit my job. 234 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 4: I lived in Virginia Beach for six months to go 235 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: train with six other dudes randomly out of the country. 236 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 4: And you know, it's so beautiful looking back on this time, 237 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 4: because this was still before I was even you know, 238 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: surrendered to the Lord. 239 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: As we had seven people. 240 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: From across the country come and live together in one 241 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 4: area andb three of the dudes got saved at that 242 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: at that spot. Yeah, so I was like, wow, Lord, 243 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 4: what are you doing here? Yeah, you know, and this 244 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: was I was still one foot in, one foot out. 245 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 4: And I came back from that trip still just stirring 246 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: for something more, and I was like, Okay, something's got 247 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: to give, you know. And I just went through a 248 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 4: rough three more months after that, and this is when 249 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: I literally was on my bathroom floor hit rock bottom. 250 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: I was like, I got nothing left, you know, I 251 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: need to take my own life. I don't have a purpose, 252 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 4: I don't have a place on here anymore. And I 253 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: was like, God, if you're, if you're really reveal yourself. 254 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: And within probably fifteen and two many seconds later, my 255 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,239 Speaker 4: buddy texted me and said, hey, bro, I love you, 256 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 4: you know, And that was my immediate response of this 257 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: is this is God. This is God revealing himself through 258 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: someone else. And he called me and was like, hey, dude, 259 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 4: I've been literally just pushing you closer to the Lord 260 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 4: and closer to the Lord, even amongst your brokenness and 261 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 4: your sin and the way that I've just been seeing 262 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: you just destroying your life right in front of me. 263 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: But I haven't left you, you know. And that was 264 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 4: just so beautiful how the Lord used him just to 265 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 4: continue to push me closer to the Lord, even amongst 266 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 4: how dark and scary and broken. I was all about that, 267 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: and just getting that text, all of the shame and 268 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 4: guilt just. 269 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 3: Like had just a deep sigh of relief. 270 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, this is God revealing himself through 271 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: one of my best friends. And I did not know 272 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: that he was truly seeking after me with everything that 273 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: he had, and I was just so blind to it 274 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 4: because I was trying to fill the void in my 275 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 4: heart that only he can fill. In that moment, that moment, 276 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: it was truly so beautiful because I can look back 277 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 4: and see how much Garrett cared about me to know 278 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: the Lord, and how much he cared about my eternity 279 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: that was on the line in that moment, you know, 280 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: and just how the Lord wanted it for him to Gearrett. 281 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 4: For Garrett to text me and say, hey, dude, I 282 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 4: love you. 283 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: You know. 284 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 4: That was the moment that I was like, Okay, God's real, 285 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: you know, if I want some of that, I want 286 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: whatever Garrett has. And that was the Spirit prompting Garrett 287 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 4: to text text me I love you, literally and to 288 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: be able to look back on that and him to 289 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: truly save my life because I was going to take 290 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: it that there in that moment. So just looking back 291 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: in that moment and just saying that, Wow, I truly 292 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: was met with an encounter with the Lord from literally 293 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: Garrett just being prompted by the Spirit and just knowing him. 294 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 4: And I just grew up in Unit. I met this church. 295 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: I didn't really understand the gospel. I grew up going 296 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 4: to church, making fun of kids who went to church. 297 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: So it was just that was such a troubled kid. So, 298 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: you know, seeing how God has been faithful, you know, 299 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: through these twenty years of my life, just knowing how 300 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: many people He's put in my life and just the 301 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: things that He's brought me in and out of because 302 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: I thought there was no way out of it at 303 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 4: the time, I really thought there was and I didn't 304 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: even realize that. You know, there's more grace in Jesus. 305 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 4: There is sin in me and to be able to, 306 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: you know, truly witness and experience that and feel the 307 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: deafness and. 308 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: The weight of that. So it's been beautiful. 309 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to stop this right there and jump into 310 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: say you're listening to build different I'm Zach Clinton. We 311 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 2: need to break for a brief message from our sponsors. 312 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: I'll be back with our guests to keep the conversation 313 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: flowing right after this. You're listening to life. Audio can 314 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: out run his love, he cannot send his grace. And 315 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful again for your vulnerability, your authenticity and 316 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: sharing that with our audience today because it's so important 317 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: for men to open up, to break down those walls, 318 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: those barriers, to feel like you have to be able 319 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: to compartmentalize the pain or just put on the side, 320 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: or wear a mask, put on a smile and just 321 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: act like everything's fine when it's not. When you're you're 322 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: rating on the inside, when there's a level of brokenness 323 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: and a depth that like you can't even put words to. 324 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: But to have a friend like Garrett, Praise God for 325 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: the awareness and the attumin to the spirit to send 326 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: a text in a time of need from a brother 327 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: to a brother letting you know that you're seen and 328 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: again you were known and you are loved in that moment, 329 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: and then your receptivity to also reach out to God 330 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: and say, God, reveal yourself, because he will if we 331 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: go to him, and if we beckon with him asking him, 332 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: and if we're aware enough to see those things and 333 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: receive him as well. I want to ask this though, 334 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: just a follow up to this, because obviously that was 335 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: like a memorial stone moment, that's a marker, that's a 336 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: turning point in your life. But one thing I do 337 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: know about faith is that it's a journey, right sanctification, 338 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: becoming more like Jesus as we spend more time with him. 339 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: That's a process that happens daily, not morning by morning, 340 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: but moment by moment. So Edwin, let me ask from 341 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: that marker in your life, what has life looked like since, 342 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: and what is or God maybe revealed to you about himself. 343 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good, really good question. You know, I 344 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: would say I wish I could say it was easy. 345 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: It got a lot easier. We all know that's not 346 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: the life of a Christian against he needs to get harder. 347 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: So we just get sanctified on the daily. But for 348 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: those next couple of months, you know, I just fell 349 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: right back into it, fell right back on my face, 350 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: fell right back into the gambling and stuff. But I 351 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 4: just had I knew that I was loved, but I 352 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: was just I took I took so much advantage of 353 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: God's grace that I was like, Okay, you know, I'm 354 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 4: I'm born again. 355 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: This is awesome. You know, I'm I'm made new, you know. 356 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: But I was just going back to what was comfortable 357 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 4: for me, and that was the stuff that, you know, 358 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: temporarily satisfied my heart. So going back to that and 359 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 4: looking of just you know, God's truly just provision in 360 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: my life and some sort of you know, my career 361 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: path and the way that you know, people that He 362 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: put out of my life and put in my life. 363 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 4: At that time, I just see that, you know, actually 364 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: getting plus And I was trying to get into a church, 365 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: and I was like, you know, this is the first 366 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: thing you need to do when you're warning, you need 367 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: to get plug into a church and you do life 368 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 4: with your people in the church, you know. And I 369 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: was so hesitant to bat because I was still you know, 370 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 4: bonded by all this the shame and guilt that I 371 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: was doing with the gambling stuff. So being able to 372 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: look back on that and then just be so ashamed 373 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 4: of going into a church and having that perspective of 374 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 4: you know, you know, come as you are, but you know, 375 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 4: don't stay as you are, and being able to you know, 376 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: truly live that out of you know, you know, He 377 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: wants all of your heart, not just a peace, you know. 378 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: And that's where I didn't understand of at the time, 379 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 4: that you know, it requires all of you, It requires 380 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: one hundred and ten percent of you, not just one percent, 381 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: you know, just truly experiencing that and feeling that the 382 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: weight and the deftness of that of like, you know, 383 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: you can't live this one foot in, one foot out 384 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: lifestyle if you want to live a life fully surrendered 385 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 4: to Jesus and being able to look back on moments 386 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: where you know, I could have just gone right back 387 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: into the fullness of the shame and the guilt that 388 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 4: I was in at that moment when I did slip 389 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: and fall back. I can't write back into my sin 390 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: as soon as that moment where almost took my own life. 391 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: But looking back on the way that He continued to 392 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 4: put people in my life that were a lot wiser 393 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 4: than me and done a lot more life than me, 394 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: and they're like, hey, dude, this is the rejectory of 395 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: your life, and this is where you're going to go. 396 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 4: God wants all of you, not just a part of you. 397 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 4: And being able to look back at those moments the 398 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 4: people that He put in my life at the right 399 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: times just pulling me out of these things, just say dude, like, hey, let's. 400 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: Let's not do this. You know, God wants more of you. 401 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: You know, I want to see the fullness of who 402 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: you are and who's God creed you to be and 403 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 4: this isn't it. You know, You're made for so much 404 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 4: more than this and what you're doing, and how you're 405 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 4: putting so many limitations on yourself and what you could 406 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 4: be achieving. So you're just so bonded and literally addicted 407 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 4: to these things, you know. So looking back on these 408 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 4: moments of just heaviness really of just. 409 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 3: How am I going to do another day? 410 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 4: How am I going to do another moment, Like I 411 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: would not be able to be present in these conversations. 412 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be able to go asleep at a normal 413 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: hour because I was so just attached to these things 414 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 4: and thought that whatever it was that I was trying 415 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: to achieve, whether it was a money or a you know, 416 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: a connection something like that in that industry, I truly 417 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: was just so consumed by it that I didn't want 418 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: anything else but that. But just so beautiful how the 419 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: word its like he wanted me, you know, and I 420 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: was just so resistant and being able to say, hey, yeah, 421 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: I received that, you know what. The depth of the 422 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 4: father's love that I can't comprehend right now, that's how 423 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 4: much he lost in being able to understand that. 424 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: It's just magnitude of just something like any other. 425 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: Nothing can separate us from the love of God. Right, 426 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: There's not one thing that you could do that would 427 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: make him love you any less. There's also not one 428 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: thing you could do that would make him love you anymore. 429 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: And when you come to that realization that God literally 430 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: is recklessly pursuing you every day of your life, He's 431 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: never given up on you, even as the prodigal the 432 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: story of the Prodigal, right, the parable there where the 433 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: father quite literally is preparing the robe in the ring 434 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: and he is looking and he is running your way 435 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: when he sees you returning home, like what a beautiful 436 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: thing that is. And Hoseiah talks about that when we 437 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: return to the Lord, that a doorway of hope, even 438 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: in the value of aco or a value of suffering, 439 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: a doorway of hope will be opened wide unto us. 440 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: And I feel like you're continuing, my friend, to step 441 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: into that doorway of hope, as you are now exuding 442 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: and spreading the hope and the goodws of the Gospel 443 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: into a world that so desperately needs it in that 444 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: of running. And so I kind of want to ask 445 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: you a little bit more so before we get into 446 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: the running sector and the discipline aspects just masculinity. Because 447 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: June is recognized as Men's Mental Health Awareness Month, and 448 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: I know that there's how dare to say, there's a 449 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 2: lot of dudes listening to this today who edwin are 450 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: silently suffering, and you know that healing can't be found 451 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: in hiding, but they feel like that's just what culture 452 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 2: and society expects of us as met right. We have 453 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: this pressure to provide, to protect, to perform, but then 454 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we find ourselves on a bathroom 455 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: floor where we find ourself at a breaking point. We 456 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: find ourselves hitting rock and there's opportunities, there's relationships, there's people, 457 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: there's trained professionals who genuinely want to walk alongside of you. 458 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: But for some reason, a lot of us have enough 459 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: brokenness and trauma in our lives that the one thing 460 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 2: that hurt us the most was someone. So therefore, why 461 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: would I let someone into my life speak to just 462 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: how you would maybe see masculinity and what does it 463 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 2: mean to be in an experienced biblical manhood. 464 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good, I think, especially in my story, I 465 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 4: just thought that it was a sign of weakness. Like 466 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 4: just to be able to speak and say, hey, I'm 467 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: feeling this way, you know, and just having that just 468 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 4: humility is just a massive thing for men, you know, 469 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: just knowing that, you know, one that guy doesn't need 470 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: us at all, truth, but it's an honor that he 471 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: wants to use us. And having that attitude within all 472 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: my areas of my life. But looking back on my 473 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 4: story of just you know, I spent eighteen years of 474 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: my life not being able to say anything out loud 475 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 4: because I felt so ashamed of the things that I did. 476 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 4: You know, That's why it just goes back to the 477 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: root of the gospel, you know, just looking back on 478 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 4: the cross of like, you know, if He's really paid 479 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 4: it all, you know, I'm gonna look back at that. 480 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 4: I'm continually drawback to that and say, dang, he paid 481 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 4: it all. All the things that I would think, all 482 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: the things that I would do, all the things that 483 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: I would continuously put before him, he paid it all 484 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: on the cross. So continuously drawing back to that and 485 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 4: the sacrifice that He paid for us is just from 486 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 4: a perspective of the gospel. But in terms of me 487 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 4: speaking out and you know, masculinity, I think there's a 488 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 4: big just distinction right in the world right now of 489 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 4: mascularly and just emotional suppression, you know, being able to 490 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: say that, hey, there is a massive problem within men 491 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 4: and mental health in this world that we live in today, 492 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 4: because you know, you see some of these top leaders, 493 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: like they have all the fame and all the power 494 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 4: and all the money and everything that you need, and 495 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: they lay their head down to night they're poor in 496 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 4: spirit and they're like, Wow, what am I missing? 497 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 3: You know, what am I missing? Why can't I talk? 498 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: Why do I feel so heavy? 499 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 4: Why do I feel these changes completely just like I'm 500 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 4: carrying a boat behind me, you know, because that you 501 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: just have to say something. You'd have to say, hey, 502 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: I'm feeling this way, and that a saying that we 503 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: say at our church is your loved and your story matters, 504 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 4: you know, because it matters to God. And knowing that 505 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 4: there are so many people out there or willing that 506 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 4: have ears to hear you and want to know your 507 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: story because it matters to the Lord. And actually looking 508 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 4: back on that of like how many people were actually 509 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: receptive of once I was. It just starts with one 510 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 4: conversation or one moment or one sentence of saying it 511 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: to someone and just the domino effect of people willing 512 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: to hear you, and you just getting more comfortable being 513 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 4: vulnerable with people, because when you're vulnerable with people, to 514 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: be vulnerable with you right back. And that's where these 515 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 4: conversations start to be opened with, you know, just freedom 516 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 4: and being able to talk about these things that we're 517 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: just so we're broken people in need of a perfect 518 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: savior and knowing that we're going to screw up time 519 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 4: and time again. And it's okay to talk about these 520 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 4: things because nine times out of tend someone's gone through 521 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 4: something that you have or has known someone who's gone 522 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 4: through something to be able to pour on you in 523 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: that way rather than trying to boggle up and do 524 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 4: on your own and say, hey, I got this, just 525 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 4: one more day, just one more moment. 526 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: You know that. 527 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 4: People, we were called to carry each other's burdens and 528 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: not not literally do this life alone. You know, starting 529 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: in Genesis, you know, not to do life alone. And 530 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: you know, just having that weight lift off me that 531 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 4: there are people out there who care and love and 532 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: like that's why even just with what I do on 533 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 4: social media right now, and you know, my mission is 534 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 4: to literally just know people, just to let them know 535 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: that I'm here, I'm available, I love them, their story matters, 536 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: and that they're seen, you know, because that might be 537 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 4: the one time that they encounter with the spirit. Is 538 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: just me that moment, you know, just knowing that they 539 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 4: are loved and seen. Just buy a video on social 540 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: media and how much that could play a factor in 541 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 4: their life, the amount of dms that I've got and say, hey, dude, 542 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: your video running on a treadmill save my life. I 543 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: was seconds away from pulling the trigger of my life 544 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 4: and I ended it, and your moment of just running 545 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 4: changed it. And like that is the heaviness where I'm 546 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: just like, if God's called me to do these crazy, 547 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 4: insane challenges, I'm gonna be faithful because it's you know, 548 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 4: it's just giving people just an opportunity to keep going. 549 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 4: And like that's why I'm just bringing the mission field 550 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: into this. It's just because you know, Hope has a name, 551 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 4: and his name is Jesus, and I'm going to continue 552 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: to just point back to that of like I've been 553 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: in the pits of this and he saved me out 554 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 4: of this pit of misery, you know, and I'm going 555 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 4: to give that same hope to other people because I 556 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 4: know what the Lord can do in and through each 557 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: and every person. 558 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: So what God's doing through you and your life and 559 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: your leadership is it's so encouraging, dude, it really is. 560 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: You're equipping people with the good news but also with 561 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: this idea that they can push beyond their own limits. 562 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about me, you and Max s eating 563 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 2: their first watch this morning in Rose coming up right, 564 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: who works their first watch shot out to her and 565 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: just her being courageous enough to ask, like, here are you? 566 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: Edwin Martin? 567 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: Right? I followed you on Instagram a month ago and 568 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 2: your content is so INSI aspiring to me because it's 569 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 2: reminding me that I'm capable of more. And like when 570 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: you hear things like that, I mean, that has to 571 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: be just a humbling experience to know the man that 572 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 2: you were, the man that we still struggled to become. 573 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: But at the same time, the opportunities and the doors 574 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: that God is open just to reach the one right, 575 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: Like you said, you don't run to even just reach 576 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: the masses. You run for that one person who might 577 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 2: reach out and say, brother, you helped me not do 578 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: the unthinkable because you just chose to run. There's a 579 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: video that you posted on social media of after project 580 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: twenty four to seventy twenty four miles or twenty four 581 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 2: hours they should say miles way longer than that twenty 582 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: four hours on a treadmill. You just sat there and 583 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: you could I could sense you just experience the moment, 584 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: like you were weeping with tears just rushing down your face, 585 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: and you had a massive group of guys and girls 586 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: surrounding you and loving on you and praying for you 587 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: and probably testifying of the goodness that they just experience 588 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: of God in that moment. Take me back just to 589 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: that moment, like what's going through you? And what was 590 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: the emotion? 591 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a massive weight of emotion finishing that. 592 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: And it's it's truly an experience that I can't even, 593 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 4: like still to this day put into words, but I'll 594 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: try to give a little summary of it. But just 595 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: having the idea random idea just prompted when I was 596 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 4: just praying, when I was in the treadmill, of like, God, 597 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 4: I want you to use me in some way using 598 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 4: this treadmill, and he put a nonprofit. I was like, 599 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 4: you know, if you want me to do this, put 600 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 4: me in connection with a nonprofit that needs help. And 601 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, you know, spend some time praying 602 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 4: on it and just talking with some people, and literally 603 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: within two days a nonprofit say hey, like we need 604 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: we need some money to host it a big event 605 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 4: within two months and not ended up being questioned recovery, 606 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: so immediately, just how quick things started to come. 607 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: And I was like, obviously, like the Lord's called me 608 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 3: to this, like we gotta go. 609 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: We got to make these things happen, and we got 610 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: to do it, you know. And the twenty four hours 611 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: was just random. But the seventy where the project point 612 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 4: of verse seventy comes in was there were seventy people 613 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 4: who took their own lives in the Charleston County last year. 614 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: And I was like, that number is so high, And. 615 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 4: You know, I was talking with the quest guys and 616 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 4: they're like, you know, should we do she used to 617 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 4: do seventy miles to honor them. I'm like, no, I 618 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 4: need to go more for them, you know. I don't 619 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 4: want to just stop at seventy because they need they 620 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 4: needed to go one more day, and I want to 621 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: go way beyond that just to prove that they can 622 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 4: keep going just one more day. And so that's the 623 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 4: initial way that it started how it came about. But 624 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: just on paper, I shouldn't have finished that challenge. I 625 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 4: really shouldn't have just because in early, just like the 626 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 4: Ultra Marathon, my stomach flipped. Early I was in shambles. 627 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 4: I was having to run to the bathroom back and 628 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 4: forth a lot, like more times than you could ever imagine, 629 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: hopping off the treadmill. I'm on the live stream, like 630 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: why does he keep leaving? I'm like, my stomach's and shambles, 631 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 4: and I couldn't do anything about it. So within the 632 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 4: first hour, so I had twenty three hours of just straight. 633 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 3: Pain in my stomach and not able to get down calories. 634 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: And when you can't get down calories and Ultra Marathon, 635 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: you're pretty much you're walking on ice with getting rabbed 636 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: in biosis. And when you get rabel, I mean you're 637 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 4: done for. So I basically gutted out ninety miles of 638 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 4: that challenge on like little to no fuel, literally little 639 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 4: to no fuel, and I got to about one hundred 640 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: and ten miles, went to the bathroom and I was like, 641 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: you know, I got to throw up and ended up 642 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 4: throwing blood. Throwing up blood at that time, and at 643 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 4: the time, I had two buddies in there and they're like, no, 644 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: it's just raspberries. And I was like, there's no way 645 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 4: I taste metal in my mouth. Yeah, And I was like, nah, 646 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: I can taste the blood. And they're like, no, it's 647 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 4: it's raspberries. And I was like, ok okay, so whatever. 648 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 4: In that moment, they convinced me that it was raspberries, 649 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, let's time to hop back 650 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 4: on that treadmill for six more hours whatever it was, 651 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 4: whatever it was in that hour, But just moments like that, 652 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: and knowing why I was doing the challenge and the 653 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 4: messages that were flowing in during the challenge, and just 654 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 4: looking back at my story and God's faithfulness and the 655 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: way that he pulled out of these depths of just 656 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: misery was the way of emotion. Like I think I 657 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 4: was getting emotional within an hour left of when I 658 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 4: was finishing. I was like, one, He's given me the ability 659 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: to do these things, and two, just thinking about people, 660 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 4: so many people that were suffering out there that didn't 661 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 4: have their voice to say something, and just looking back 662 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 4: of like how my story almost ended, but now how 663 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 4: God's used me in such a big way. And in 664 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 4: terms of running, it's just running and for people to 665 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 4: being inspired and encouraged to keep going. The emotions I 666 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 4: just I just couldn't stop them. I just was just 667 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 4: overfilled with joy the amount of people who were supporting 668 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 4: me and the amount of people that I knew that 669 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 4: were going to be inspired by this because of how 670 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 4: insane it was. You know, if God put this crazy 671 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 4: idea and insane challenge on my heart for a reason, 672 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 4: I knew that he was going to show up in 673 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: such a big way like he always does, and he did. 674 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 4: And just looking constantly drawing back of like, you know, 675 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 4: if I can endure this hardship for twenty four hours 676 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: to inspire someone to keep going for just one more day, 677 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 4: it's a win and it is a victory to be 678 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: able to do this because it inspired someone to keep 679 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: going or speak up, or have that conversation or send 680 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: that text whatever. It was like looking back on my store, 681 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 4: it was that text, you know, send that text to someone, share, 682 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 4: tell them that you love them. Looking back on that, 683 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: and that's just why the emotions were just so overwhelming. 684 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: It like literally genuinely, it wasn't even the pain. It 685 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 4: was literally just the magnitude of the situation, the weight 686 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: of how just so many people that I wanted to 687 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 4: inspire along this challenge and was able to just see 688 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: the weight of it in all honesty, which was beautiful. 689 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: I remember watching that video and just says, the tears 690 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: were flowing down your cheeks. Brother, I mean, my eyes 691 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 2: start welling with tears because I know you, and I 692 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: know why you do what you do, and I know 693 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: that you're not doing it for yourself or again the accolades, 694 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: while you're doing it for the one like the one 695 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: person that needs it in that moment, And I just 696 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: think about what I get to do as a counselor 697 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: and just the joy it is to walk alongside of 698 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: people through the crazy journey that we call life, and 699 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: as you do a lot in the suicide prevention space. 700 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: Just some stats for some people out there listening to 701 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: understand the reality of the moment. Twenty five percent of 702 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: men on any given day walking around with the mental illness. 703 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: Seventy five percent of those twenty five percent never receive 704 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: help in this Officially early enough timetable seventeen hundred and 705 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: seventy men in their life every single day. Is over 706 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: seventy percent of all suicides are completed by men, typically 707 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: because of the lethality that we choose to do it 708 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 2: by which we do. And so there's so many stats 709 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 2: that just continue to reveal this depth of despair that 710 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: countless men are walking in, that countless men are again 711 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: suffering in silence, but just the reminder, just their running 712 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: on a treadmill. And I want to jump here for 713 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: a second to this nearly two hundred mile run across 714 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: the state of South Carolina. 715 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: I know that was for a different cause. 716 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: I believe it was for something regarding was a cancer 717 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: research in different things, but just like running for those 718 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: who can't run and doing something not for on your behalf, 719 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: but on the behalf of others, Like what goes into 720 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: a run across the state if you don't mind me asking. 721 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 4: That was an adventure to say the least, and so 722 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 4: we did. So the main mission behind this was I 723 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: have a buddy named Ryan Cass and he has a 724 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: foundation called Breaking Ribbons. So in an ideal world, you know, 725 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 4: when a runner finishes the race, the ribbon splits, you know, 726 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 4: but that's not the case for a lot of these 727 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,719 Speaker 4: people who have cancer and are fighting these battles every 728 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 4: single day. So what he does, and I've just been 729 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: honored to partner with him and run alongside him, is 730 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: he is in partnership with a few organizations that find 731 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: families who desperately need the financial help in their walk 732 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 4: of life. So what we got to do, which was 733 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 4: so cool before I started talking about the run, is 734 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 4: we got to literally hand deliver the checks to these 735 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 4: families who are battling cancer. The first family that we 736 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 4: got to go to was living in a hotel, three kids, 737 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 4: single mom, stage four breast cancer, and we got to 738 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 4: give them five thousand dollars. And that you would have 739 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 4: never seen me crying so hard in a place ever 740 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 4: by seeing a three year old burst down in tears 741 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 4: of knowing that her life was changed for even the 742 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: next two months by five thousand dollars, And just puts 743 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 4: into perspective of how blessed that I am just to 744 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: be able to one to do this challenge, but two 745 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 4: the life that I get to live right now, And 746 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 4: just puts in perspective of, like, you know, two hundred miles. 747 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: That was hard. That was very hard, very extremely hard. 748 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but knowing that that pain was going to go 749 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 4: away and I was going to recover from that, Lord 750 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: Willing and I did, And knowing that there was a 751 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 4: finish line to that run, like we started in rock 752 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 4: Hill and we were going to finish in Charleston and 753 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 4: we did. 754 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: There was a finish line within that. 755 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 4: Some of these people who are battling cancer, it's a 756 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: long process and you know that might be the end 757 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: for them, you know, is their end of their cancer treatment. 758 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 4: So just having that was just so cool and having 759 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 4: a why that was so much bigger than myself or 760 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: the run across the the state was absolutely unreal. But 761 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 4: the run part was the wildest thing I've ever done. 762 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 4: You Know, people keep asking me, what's the hardest challenge 763 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: you've done? Is the treadmill? Is the run across the state? 764 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 4: Is it the one hundred miles around the track? 765 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 3: Like what is it? 766 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 4: And I'd have to say it definitely is that the 767 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 4: run across the state to a capacity. Because we had 768 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 4: no organization of this, we literally just we started at 769 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: Fort Mile High School in the upstate of South Carolina 770 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 4: and we started Ryan wrestled at Fort Mill, so he 771 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: we literally started at their high school gym. Wow, and 772 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 4: literally just went all the way there to Charleston. We 773 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 4: were running on highway shoulders that were about two feet 774 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: wide with eighteen wheelers just rolling by us and had 775 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 4: no idea what we were doing. And you know, when 776 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 4: you're one hundred miles deep, you really don't have the 777 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 4: best of balance. So when you're literally just walking on 778 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 4: thin eyes with literally getting smashed by a car, which 779 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 4: was insane, but just being on your feet for sixty 780 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 4: three hours was like wow, Like I had literally felt 781 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 4: like I had knives in my shins, like they were 782 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 4: swelled up. It was insane. But we had such a 783 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 4: great crew rolling with us. They literally were in two 784 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 4: white mini vans, like eight of them in each. No sleep, 785 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 4: no shower, no nothing, and they were able to just 786 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 4: pick it up and just go because they they wanted 787 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 4: to honor the mission. 788 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: They loved us so much that they wanted to. 789 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: Spend three days of their life literally trekking across the 790 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 4: state in a van, following three dudes running for a 791 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 4: cause that was bigger than their self. So just I 792 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 4: mean that in itself, those long three day ultra marathons. 793 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: That was my first one that I had gone over 794 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 4: one hundred miles, so it was uncharted territory. So every 795 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 4: step after one hundred was a distance pr for me. 796 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 4: So I'm just like, okay, wow, let's just do it. Yeah, 797 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 4: let's just double it, and let's do it in sixty hours. 798 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 4: This so just every step was uncharted territory for me. 799 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 4: But being able to look back at that of like, wow, 800 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 4: like we actually ran across an entire state is insane. 801 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 4: But knowing continually drawing back of how much money we 802 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 4: got to raise and how much attention got brought to 803 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: these families that we got to honor at the end 804 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 4: of it, what made it all worth it. 805 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: Doctor Andrew Huberman out of Stanford University, who I'm sure 806 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 2: you're well acquainted with. He has a quote where he 807 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 2: says we should do self elected hard things so that 808 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: when life's non elected challenges arise, and they will, I 809 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: can tell myself, I don't know how I'm going to 810 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: do this. The one thing I know is that I 811 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: can do hard things. This idea that chosen suffering is 812 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: really the only way in which we can prepare for 813 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 2: the unchosen suffering moments of our lives and being able 814 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: to discipline ourselves. I'm just interested in knowing that you 815 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: and your buddy Max and countless other people that you 816 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 2: spend a lot of time with, like you guys do 817 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 2: hard things and you choose to do them. And again, 818 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 2: people might look at you when we were talking about 819 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: this a breakfast, people might look at you and say, 820 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: you guys are crazy. 821 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: Like why would you do that? 822 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? 823 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: Right, but like your call to this and you remind people. 824 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: And we'll get into the limiting beliefs here in a second, 825 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 2: But I just want to know as you choose to 826 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: do these endurance challenges that again people can't even have 827 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 2: them in their brains. What has it taught you about 828 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: resilience of the human body, resilience of the human mind, 829 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: resilience of Edwin Martin. 830 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, the first thing that comes to mind is the 831 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 4: mind quits way before the body does every time. 832 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 3: Every time. 833 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 4: I mean, if I would tell you looking back on 834 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 4: these races, I'd be like, twenty five miles, I'm done. 835 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 4: My mind's like I'm good. I don't want to do 836 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 4: this anymore. We're not made for this. You're not built 837 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 4: for this. All of the lies that were just being 838 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 4: spoken over me. So looking back on that of just 839 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 4: all these crazy challenges, like way before the challenge even 840 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 4: got finished, I wanted to quit, you know, and being 841 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 4: able to say that, I was like, yeah, this is 842 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 4: the war is literally one in the mind. It's not 843 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 4: the physical stuff. And that's why I just harp on 844 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: people say, you're capable more than you would ever think 845 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 4: or imagine. You just have to do it. You have 846 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 4: to put yourself in the arena. And that's why I 847 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 4: love to do that these things is just because I 848 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 4: know what I'm going to learn. I know I'm gonna 849 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,479 Speaker 4: want to get out of these things after I get done. 850 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 4: Like these moments of sufferinger and teach me so many things. 851 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 4: It's going to make a lot of errors in my 852 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 4: life a lot easier, you know. It's that hard conversation 853 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 4: that that job or I mean, whatever it is, it's 854 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 4: going to be a lot because I just draw back 855 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 4: these moments like dude, you ran one hundred miles, Dude, 856 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 4: you ran two hundred miles, but this is nothing, you know, 857 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 4: Like just that's why I just put myself in the arena, 858 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 4: because one is it's you learn so much, but two 859 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 4: is such a deeper reliance on the Lord at that time. 860 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 4: It's like, God, God, if this was my strength, I'm done, 861 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 4: no shot. You know, God, I need your strength. I 862 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 4: need you to continue to work in and through me 863 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 4: during this challenge, you know, And just having that attitude 864 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 4: of knowing that you the war is one or lost 865 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 4: in your mind every time you know there's no debate, 866 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 4: and knowing that you're capable of so much more than 867 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 4: you think. 868 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 3: You just have to do it, you know. 869 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people in this life 870 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: will go through everyday life of just wanting that comfort 871 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 4: of the everyday life of the normal life nine to 872 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 4: five and won't take any I'm not hating on the 873 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 4: nine to five job, but I'm just saying, like stepping 874 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 4: out of their comfort zone for anything, and that's different 875 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: for everybody. It doesn't have to be these crazy runs. 876 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 4: It's maybe going to the gym, finding these disciplines, finding 877 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 4: these routines that will actually prevail them for a better 878 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 4: life and set themselves up for a longevity of a 879 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 4: healthy lifestyle. And it just plays into so many areas 880 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 4: that people neglect because they don't want to step on 881 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 4: the other side of something that sucks, and everything worth 882 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 4: having is on this other side of something that sucks. 883 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 3: It really does. 884 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 2: Remember years ago, a guy who's a friend named Jededi 885 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: Thurner once told me that there are two drugs of 886 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 2: choice in culture and society, comfort and convenience. He went 887 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: on to say, think about exactly like our food fasts, 888 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: we like our men and women easy with like success overnight. 889 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 2: We want to lose thirty pounds in thirty days. We 890 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: like cheat sheets, a set of study guides, handouts, and 891 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: set of hard work welfare set of jobs. We want 892 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 2: God's promises without God's processes, and ultimately we want our 893 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 2: destiny at a discount. But you have to remind people 894 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 2: zac that greatness never goes on sale, and vision never. 895 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 2: So then you finished it with this. Anything worth value 896 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 2: in this life will always come with the cost, and 897 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: it's being willing to pay the price. And it's like 898 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 2: doing these things every day. In neuroscience, what's fascinating about 899 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 2: the research behind is that there's a region in the 900 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 2: brain called the anterior mid singular cortex that actually grows 901 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 2: and expands and becomes more flexible the more you do 902 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: hard things. In other words, the more you do hard 903 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 2: things like you just mentioned, you can look back and 904 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 2: build off of the evidence, which only builds confidence for 905 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 2: the next hard thing that you'll do, even if it's 906 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 2: a different thing. Perseverance literally can be hardwired not just 907 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 2: into your brain and your synapses, but like your DNA 908 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 2: and into your being. I'm just thinking of the limiting 909 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 2: beliefs that you mention that people experience in life, the stories, 910 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: the narratives that we develop over time. I can't I'll 911 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: never be able to write I'm not good enough all 912 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 2: of these things. And I just am a firm believer 913 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: that the difference between those who win and those who don't, 914 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 2: whether in sports or in life, is the story we share, 915 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 2: the narrative we repeatedly think on. And I think of 916 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 2: a guy named doctor James Gills. I don't know if 917 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 2: you've ever heard of that name, but he's a guy 918 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 2: that in it was interviewed by John Gordon, and he 919 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: did some unbelievable feats in this ultra athlete space. He 920 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 2: has the world record for six double iron man's before 921 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 2: Edwin Martin came around, and six double iron man's, So 922 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 2: obviously for the audience out there that maybe isn't a 923 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 2: quaint with an Ironman competition two point four mile swim, 924 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 2: one hundred and twelve mile bike ride, twenty six point 925 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:32,959 Speaker 2: two mile run. 926 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: He would do that, he would. 927 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 2: Go to sleep for about eight hours or so, wake 928 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 2: up and do another Ironman the next day. And he 929 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: talks about upon his retirement. His last one was at 930 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: the age of fifty nine, right before he turned sixty, 931 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 2: and so like, this is a bad man, right, You 932 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 2: talk about discipline and stuff, all of this, But at 933 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 2: his retirement party, somebody asked him a question of like, 934 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: how did you do it? 935 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: How'd you push yourself to the. 936 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: Extreme beyond any possible human life, And he said, I 937 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 2: mastered the art of talking to myself more than I 938 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 2: listened to myself. If I were to listen to myself, 939 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, the mind is a very limiting thing. 940 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 2: Default is pessimism. Default is you can Default is give up. 941 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 2: Default is why are. 942 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: You doing this? To begin with? 943 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, But then when you begin to speak life 944 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 2: over your life, you realize that you're the most influential 945 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 2: person in your life because nobody talks to you more 946 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 2: than you do. And so, Ed, I'm just thinking as 947 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 2: you're running out there, Like what are the things that 948 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 2: you are meditating and marinating on, and what do you 949 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: speak over yourself in moments when you would rather give up? 950 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's writ in the proverbs. It's as 951 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 4: man thinks, so is he. Just when I'm in these 952 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 4: moments of like ultra marathons and you know, even hard 953 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 4: situations in life, it's just knowing that it's just one 954 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 4: more minute. In these ultra marathons, it is just one 955 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 4: more minute. Make it to the next mile, make it 956 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 4: to the next half mile. You like, you have people 957 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 4: love you and the are caring for you and doing 958 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 4: these things and walking alongside you. And that's the beauty 959 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 4: of like why I get to do these things and 960 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 4: people that I'm so grateful for that get to just 961 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 4: come experience this stuff with me, because if it wasn't 962 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 4: for them, I wouldn't be able to do it. And 963 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 4: having them just supporting me through all this stuff, like 964 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 4: people were carrying my water bottles, doing all the nutrition, 965 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 4: all the stuff, like I can't do it alone, and 966 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 4: just having that in my mindset of like. 967 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 3: One, I've been here before too. 968 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 4: You just got to make it one more step, one 969 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 4: more step, just like even in the midst of life 970 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 4: of just like you know, tomorrow's not promise. We got 971 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,399 Speaker 4: to make it through these next day his mercies are 972 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 4: new in the morning, you know. We just got to 973 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 4: keep making it. One more day, one more day, one 974 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 4: more step. And that's why this Sue beautiful Wultra marathon 975 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 4: translates into so many areas of my life. Because it's 976 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 4: gonna end, it's gonna stink, it's gonna get hard. It's 977 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 4: just a matter of when and how you respond, you know, 978 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 4: And I'm in control of that. I can quit, I 979 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 4: can throw in the towel when I have these initial 980 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 4: thoughts of saying you're not built for this, you're not 981 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 4: made for this, you don't have the prize for this, 982 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 4: all these lives about these things. 983 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 3: I could quit in that moment, you know, but I want. 984 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 4: To be I'm a guy who is a man of 985 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 4: his word, and it says these things and actually does 986 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 4: it and cause a shot and does it, you know, 987 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 4: because it just solidifies so many things in your life 988 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 4: that just build so many confidence and areas that you 989 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 4: wouldn't even think of just being able to do these 990 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 4: things that are so hard and so unfathomable. To a 991 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 4: lot of people. But being in the moment of just 992 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 4: saying one more step, one more moment, just one more second, 993 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 4: just make it one more second, every single time just 994 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 4: draws back to you. Just got to keep going. You 995 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 4: got to keep going. Just fight, keep fighting, keep. 996 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,280 Speaker 1: Fighting, keep fighting. 997 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: One more step, one more step, one more minute, one 998 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 2: more moment, one more mile, whatever it is, it's just 999 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 2: one more. And if you can even begin to simplify 1000 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 2: it down to just one, right, anybody can do one 1001 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 2: more and being able to build and stack that one percent. 1002 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking when you go to your page on 1003 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 2: social media, when you know you right, I'm just thinking 1004 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,240 Speaker 2: about Max sitting over here, your friend group, different people 1005 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 2: that you have surrounded yourself with when you run, like 1006 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: you never really run alone. You have people that are 1007 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 2: with you, like even if they're taking different groups and 1008 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 2: they're taking shifts, like you're always running with someone. And 1009 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about the person out there today, maybe 1010 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 2: the man out there today who feels like I got 1011 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: this right through the most dangerous word a man could 1012 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: ever say, and they're just continuing to push by themselves, 1013 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 2: thinking that that's the expectation. But the importance of community 1014 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 2: ed the importance of having a band of brothers, guys 1015 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 2: that you can do life with that will not just 1016 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 2: surround you, but that will both support you and sharpen 1017 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: you every step of the way. Speak to the importance 1018 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 2: of your friend group and what they've meant to you 1019 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 2: in this journey. 1020 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's been truly unimagina one, especially this past year, 1021 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 4: just being so blessed with such a great church body 1022 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 4: and having I think the coolest thing about a lot 1023 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 4: of this stuff is when me and Maximum are the 1024 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 4: equation into this church body. They just weren't like they 1025 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 4: had no idea about this endurance stuff, but the way 1026 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 4: that they were like, we have no idea the daptness 1027 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 4: and the weight and the craziness of this stuff, but 1028 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 4: we're going to do it because we love these dudes, 1029 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 4: and they could care less about what we do on 1030 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 4: like everyday basis of these things and these races, but 1031 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 4: they love us and they want to be alongside of us, 1032 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 4: and they're proud of us, and they know it's insane, 1033 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 4: but they just want to do it with us. 1034 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 3: And just being able. 1035 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 4: To walk with people who will call me higher but 1036 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 4: also will be there right beside me in the think 1037 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 4: of it in the nastiness of the ultra marathons, and 1038 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 4: just knowing that they couldn't be more impressed by me, 1039 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 4: but they couldn't want to love me even more if 1040 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 4: they tried, just because we're doing life together and having 1041 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 4: those people just constantly like I don't even have to 1042 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 4: ask them anymore. It's like, what's the next crazy thing? 1043 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 4: How can I help you? How can I support you? 1044 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 4: How can I be there for you? How can I 1045 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 4: love you better through this? And just actually seeing how 1046 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 4: much fruit has come from that and how many people 1047 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 4: are just flocking to that of like the questions that 1048 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 4: are sharing these people's hearts, of like why do they 1049 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 4: love this guy so much? Why do they keep showing 1050 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 4: up for this dude? Like at the treadmill run, we're 1051 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 4: in a gym is just like filled with a lot 1052 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 4: of people who don't know the Lord. And my prayer 1053 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 4: was going into it of just like Lord, would they 1054 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 4: just see you and me? 1055 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 3: You know? 1056 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 4: And by doing this thing, and like so many people, 1057 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 4: the way that they showed up, the way that they 1058 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 4: loved me, the way that they ran beside me for 1059 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 4: twenty four hours. I didn't run a single hour alone 1060 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 4: just stirs questions of like why did they love this 1061 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 4: guy so much? And the answer is just they both 1062 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 4: following Jesus. They love Jesus so much that they're gonna 1063 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 4: do whatever it takes to show up for their people. 1064 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 4: And just being able to see those moments and just 1065 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 4: being so blessed by this community who loves me so 1066 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 4: much but calls me high at the same time and 1067 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 4: just sharpens just being in the arena with someone I 1068 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 4: can't describe it. It's just in the thick of it, 1069 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 4: in the suckiness of the workout, but just knowing that 1070 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 4: you have someone just presence for me is the big thing. 1071 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 4: Like I could be in the thick of these ultra 1072 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 4: marathons and just having someone to my left or to 1073 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 4: my right. They don't have to say a word, it's 1074 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 4: just being there beside me, you know, just continuously just 1075 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 4: what I think about, what the Lord He just wants 1076 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 4: us to sit right at his feet, you know. And 1077 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 4: just having these people so present in my life. I 1078 00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 4: don't even have to say a word, but they're encouraged 1079 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 4: me of being there means more that I could ever 1080 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 4: put into words. Every single time all these races, people 1081 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 4: are going to show up for me. And I'm incredibly 1082 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 4: blessed every single time for that person who you know 1083 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 4: thinks they can do it on their on their own, 1084 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 4: and they say, I got this. I say one the 1085 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 4: three most dangerous words that you could say. But find 1086 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 4: people who have the same like like activities, they like 1087 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 4: to do the same mindset, and just go far with him. 1088 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 4: If like a quote that I always go back to, 1089 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 4: if you want to go far, go alone. If you 1090 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 4: want to go far, go together, And that state may 1091 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 4: stem so true in all areas of life, not even 1092 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 4: just endurance sports. So I'm just incredibly blessed by the 1093 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 4: community that you know, the Lord is building within his 1094 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 4: people in the city of Charleston right now. 1095 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 2: You don't have to know me long to know that. 1096 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: One of my favorite passages in scripture is Daniel chapter three, 1097 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 2: right chattering me shack into Benego and this idea that 1098 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 2: God will give you friends for the fire. And I 1099 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 2: believe that He has equipped you with friends in the 1100 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 2: midst of the fiery furnace of life. But at the 1101 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 2: same time he is the fourth man in the fire 1102 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,479 Speaker 2: all ways. Isaiah forty three, verse two, When you pass 1103 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 2: through the waters, I will be with you. And when 1104 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 2: you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. 1105 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 2: When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned. 1106 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 2: The flames will not set you ablaze. This idea that 1107 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 2: God is always present. He is a present help in 1108 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: times of need. He sticks closer than a brother, even 1109 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 2: when your father and mother, for sake you, he never does. 1110 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 2: This is a beautiful thing of recognizing the all empowering 1111 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 2: presence of God, no matter where you're at in life, 1112 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 2: no matter the brokenness, no matter the bathroom floor, no 1113 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 2: matter the one hundred mile race, no matter South Carolina Marathon, 1114 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 2: whatever it is like, God is with you always. And 1115 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 2: what I want to touch on here for a moment 1116 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 2: is out of Hebrews twelve, this idea of running your race. 1117 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 2: Because we were talking at breakfast and not even just 1118 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 2: driving over from First Watch this morning, I was pumping 1119 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 2: gas and I was just thinking, you know, you mentioned 1120 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 2: that at some point you're going to hang up the 1121 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 2: shoes at some point, right, You're not going to be 1122 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 2: able to maybe do this stuff any longer. Point. The 1123 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 2: one hundred mile races and the two hundred mile races 1124 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 2: and the twenty four hours on a treadmill. Like those 1125 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,479 Speaker 2: things will fade, but the finish line of heaven never does. 1126 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: And so I just want to read some verses here 1127 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 2: out of Hebrews chapter twelve, the first twelve verses, and 1128 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 2: then I just want to ask you about what it 1129 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 2: means to you, Edwin about running your race, the race 1130 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 2: set before you. Says Therefore, since we are surrounded by 1131 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 2: such a great cloud of witnesses, let us also lay 1132 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 2: aside every weight and sin which clings so closely, and 1133 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,479 Speaker 2: let us run with endurance that race that is set 1134 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 2: before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfector of 1135 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,439 Speaker 2: our faith, who for the joy that was set before him, 1136 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 2: endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at 1137 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 2: the right hand of the throne of God. 1138 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: Verse three. 1139 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 2: Consider him who endured from sinners such hostility against himself, 1140 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 2: so that you may not grow weary or faint hearted 1141 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 2: in your struggle against sin. You have not resisted to 1142 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 2: the point of shedding your blood. And have you forgotten 1143 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 2: the exhortation that addresses you as sons. My son, do 1144 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 2: not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, nor be 1145 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 2: weary when reproved by him. For the Lord disciplines the 1146 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 2: one he loves and chastises every son whom he receives 1147 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,240 Speaker 2: Verse seven. It is for discipline that you have to endure. 1148 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 2: God is treating you as sons, for what son is 1149 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 2: there whom his father does not discipline. If you are 1150 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 2: left without discipline in which all have participated in, you 1151 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 2: are illegitimate children and not sons. Besides this, we have 1152 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 2: had earthly fathers who disciplined us, and we respected them. 1153 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 2: Shall we not much more be subject to the father 1154 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 2: of spirits and live? For they disciplined us for a 1155 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 2: short time, as it seemed best to them. But He 1156 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 2: disciplines us for our good, that we may share his 1157 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 2: holiness Verse eleven. For the moment, all discipline seems painful 1158 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 2: rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit 1159 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 2: of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. Therefore, 1160 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 2: lift your drooping hands, and strengthen your weak knees, and 1161 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 2: make straight paths for your feet, so that what is 1162 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,399 Speaker 2: lame may not be put out of joint, but rather 1163 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 2: be healed. So I'm thinking about a quote even I 1164 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 2: just read yesterday about discipline. It actually differentiated motivation, discipline 1165 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 2: and obsession. The guy said, Motivation is I want to 1166 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 2: do this. Discipline is regardless of how I feel, I'm 1167 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 2: going to do this. Obsession is I can't not do this. 1168 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 2: And I think about discipline, discipline when we have the 1169 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 2: proper perspective, eventually I would assume ed it becomes a 1170 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 2: desire right when you discipline yourself so much so it's like, 1171 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 2: how can I not do this? This is what God 1172 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 2: has called you to speak to the impact of understanding 1173 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 2: what your race, the race God is set before you 1174 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 2: means to you in this moment. 1175 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, like you know the question, you know 1176 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 4: what I want to be remembered by as just is 1177 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 4: it a runner? Is it a crazy endurance guy? Is 1178 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 4: it a guy who speaks on mental health? Is just 1179 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 4: a guy who is faithful, faithful to what's. 1180 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 3: Right in front of me. 1181 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 4: You know, it's not the running, it's not the accolades, 1182 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 4: it's nothing like that. It's just someone who was faithful, 1183 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,280 Speaker 4: love people extremely well and just fearlessly chase after Jesus 1184 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 4: and brought people alongside him, you know, to do that. 1185 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 4: And for me, like within these running and stuff, and 1186 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 4: just like we talked about her breakfast this morning, it's 1187 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 4: like it could be taken away from me in thirty 1188 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 4: minutes literally. 1189 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 3: You know. 1190 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 4: And whatever I draw back to is the Lord of 1191 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 4: my life. And how easy it is am these things 1192 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,479 Speaker 4: that I get to do, is how much it become 1193 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 4: an idol, and the things that I even struggle with 1194 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 4: of like on a daily basis, of like how not 1195 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,280 Speaker 4: making discipline and running an idol and a pedal stool 1196 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 4: over the Lord every single day because I'm just like, 1197 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 4: you know, it's easier to go run ten miles and 1198 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 4: is to pick up my babble the morning, you know. 1199 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 4: And having those disciplines, spiritual disciplines, just as a line 1200 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 4: of my physical disciplines, is something that you have to 1201 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 4: master because if not, those are being to come idols, 1202 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 4: and if they become idols, we're just you're going to 1203 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 4: be bankrupt within these things and you're gonna have to 1204 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 4: continuously draw back of what I feel empty. It's because 1205 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 4: you're not filling your cup with the right things. You're 1206 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 4: going to things that are temporarily satisfying your heart, and 1207 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 4: that's these physical stuff. And that's why you know, being 1208 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 4: in this space is so hard because it takes a 1209 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,919 Speaker 4: lot out of you to do these things, but being 1210 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 4: able to ginuously home with myself before the Lord of 1211 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 4: like you are the lord of my life, and I'm 1212 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,760 Speaker 4: gonna give you everything. 1213 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 3: This is just the vehicle and. 1214 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 4: The platform that you allowed me to do these things with, 1215 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 4: not the main importance of these things, Because God, if 1216 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 4: you want to take these running things and you know, 1217 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,839 Speaker 4: the social media away from me, the things that I'm 1218 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 4: doing right now, that's okay. I'm secure, My identity is secure, 1219 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 4: and I don't have to worry about that. So just 1220 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 4: continuously drawing back to this is my calling, my life 1221 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 4: right now. But if he takes it away and he 1222 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 4: steering me in a different direction, I have to be 1223 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 4: okay with that and not allowing that to distract me 1224 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 4: of the mission that he has set in front of me, 1225 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 4: and that's to literally run my race well, and run 1226 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 4: it with endurance, and run it so well that I'm 1227 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 4: furiously chasing after him so hard that if anything comes away, 1228 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 4: if he wants to take anything away for the advancement 1229 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 4: United Kingdom, I have to be acceptable of that and 1230 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 4: not be saying, you know, but running is my thing. 1231 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 4: But running is my thing. Running is just the vehicle 1232 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 4: that he's using me to advance the Gospel with and 1233 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 4: if he takes it away, he takes it away. That's 1234 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 4: no problem, because I'm secure in Christ every single day. 1235 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 3: Amen. 1236 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 2: And maybe the moment of suffering. I think a lot 1237 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 2: of people, I'll say this, have an improper theology of suffering. 1238 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 2: They view it as punishment rather than this idea of discipline. 1239 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 2: The thing that maybe you believe God is using to 1240 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 2: destroy you, God might be using to develop you. The 1241 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,240 Speaker 2: thing in which God you feel like God has forgotten 1242 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 2: you in maybe He's just forging you through. And you 1243 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 2: talked about endurance, and that's what this passage is all about. 1244 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 2: Running the race with endurance that has been set before you, 1245 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 2: not looking to your right or to your left, not 1246 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 2: looking in somebody else's lane, not looking at somebody else's 1247 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 2: life and comparing your race to theirs, but just running 1248 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,400 Speaker 2: with Heaven in mind, with Heaven in sight, and seeing 1249 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 2: that this process of sanctification and becoming more like Jesus 1250 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 2: like that is something that we are all called to 1251 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 2: in our own unique way. But this idea of endurance, 1252 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 2: it was broken down really well to me a couple 1253 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 2: of years ago, and they said, it just simply means 1254 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 2: to suffer through patiently, and that idea of patience is 1255 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 2: something that so many people struggle with, especially in the 1256 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 2: midst of pain. But we cling to promises. I think 1257 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 2: of Romans eight twenty eight, right, for we know that 1258 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 2: all things work together for the good of those who 1259 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,320 Speaker 2: love God and who have been called according to His purpose. 1260 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 2: But one thing I've recognized in my life at is 1261 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 2: that sometimes my definition of good looks different than God's. 1262 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 2: That h I'd ever said, right like, my definition of 1263 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 2: good is like easy, comfortable, not painful, whatsoever, famous, successful, 1264 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 2: whatever the cultural. 1265 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: Definition of good might be. 1266 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 2: But then God defines his definition in the very next verse, 1267 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 2: verse twenty nine of Romans eight, for those he foreknew, 1268 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 2: he also predestined that they might be conformed to the 1269 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 2: image of his son. It's like, in the middle of 1270 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 2: your stuff, what if God is using it as really 1271 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,359 Speaker 2: a training ground to help you form and become more 1272 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,800 Speaker 2: malleable into the image of Christ. I want to close 1273 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 2: this way, man, because something that I always do on 1274 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 2: the podcast is just leave room for a pressing word 1275 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 2: for our guests to share something that God is placed 1276 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 2: on his heart for the listener out there today. Man 1277 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 2: who just really does feel disappointed and feels discouraged and 1278 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 2: has been listening to the limiting beliefs, or maybe has 1279 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 2: attached themselves to a lie, a false narrative for far 1280 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 2: too long. To the person who maybe feels like they're 1281 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 2: alone in this life. To the person who's on a 1282 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 2: bathroom floor with a gun nearby or a pill bottle 1283 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 2: and they feel like there's just no hope in this 1284 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 2: life for me, what's just the final word of hope, 1285 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 2: encouragement and motivation you want to leave with that person today? 1286 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would definitely be your loved and your story 1287 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 4: matters because it matters to the Lord, and knowing that 1288 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 4: you are uniquely beautifully crafted in the image of God, 1289 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 4: and knowing that you were created on this purpose for 1290 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 4: a reason and if you weren't, you wouldn't be here, 1291 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 4: and knowing that you have such a purpose and it's 1292 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 4: up to you to be able to find that because 1293 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 4: even within my story, like I thought that I didn't 1294 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,479 Speaker 4: have any purpose, and God used someone else to put 1295 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 4: them in my life to find that purpose and using 1296 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 4: that person specifically to bring that out of me. So 1297 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 4: just for that person, just knowing that you know, sharing 1298 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 4: your story and what you've gone through with someone else. 1299 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 4: That's why to say your story matters and your loved 1300 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 4: because it matters to the Lord. And being able to 1301 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 4: tell I think there's so much freedom in telling your 1302 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 4: story for the first time because you asked you know, 1303 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 4: ninety nine percent of this world of like, have you 1304 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 4: actually sat down and shared your story? And like, I look, 1305 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 4: someone asked me, it's like, how are you so boldly 1306 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 4: sharing your faith? It's just because you know, my life 1307 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 4: is living proof that the Cross actually worked and seeing 1308 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 4: that perspective of I'm here for a reason. 1309 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 3: The Cross is literal proof of that. 1310 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 4: And for people to literally experience that, and the freedom 1311 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 4: that you can walk in of just sharing your story 1312 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 4: and just sharing the heart wreck that you've gone through, 1313 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 4: in the suffering that you've gone through, and how you've 1314 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 4: endured it, and like looking back on God's faithfulness in 1315 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 4: those seasons of life where you thought that you had 1316 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 4: nothing left and now that I can so freely look 1317 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 4: back on and see how the Lord was using to 1318 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 4: just allow me to run after him. Meanwhile he was 1319 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 4: fearlessly pursuing me, even the monks of the brokenness. So 1320 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 4: just for that person out there who just feels like 1321 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 4: they just have nothing left. Just share your story with 1322 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 4: someone and talk and speak and say that one word, 1323 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 4: send that text and say hey, I need help. 1324 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 3: I need to talk because. 1325 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 4: When you that's why I just spent eighteen years of 1326 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 4: doing that and boggling it up, and there's so much 1327 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 4: freedom just saying hey, I actually do need help, I 1328 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 4: actually do need to talk about these things. I can't 1329 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 4: boggle this up and I can't do this alone. So 1330 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 4: just for someone out there who is just on their 1331 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 4: bathroom floor or just thinking about not wanting to be 1332 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 4: heard anymore, just say one word someone, because someone's gonna care. 1333 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 4: And it might not be the first person that you 1334 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 4: reach out to who has any thort of care in 1335 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 4: their heart, but it might be the second, and it 1336 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 4: might be the third, and it might be the fourth. 1337 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 4: Just knowing that there are people out there who love 1338 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 4: and they care for you because your story matters and 1339 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 4: it truly does. 1340 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 2: Hope is accessible to anybody who desires it. I love 1341 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 2: that word that you just shared. It's a word, my friend, 1342 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 2: that my life is living proof that the Cross, the Resurrection, 1343 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 2: the gospel actually works and is actually true. Ed, my friend, 1344 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 2: where can audience go to find out a little bit 1345 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 2: more about you. Is it through Instagram? Is it through 1346 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 2: social media? Is there a website? Is there one stop 1347 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 2: shop where we can get plugged in? And also if 1348 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 2: we want to get trained by you, guys, come on, 1349 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm interested in that. 1350 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: Where can they go? 1351 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 4: So my social personal is iron Snet on Instagram iron Snet. 1352 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 1: By the way, where did that come from? 1353 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 3: That? 1354 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 1: That nickname? 1355 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was a nickname from college where my 1356 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 4: first ever endurance event was an iron Man. 1357 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 3: Okay, I was a one and done guy with the 1358 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 3: triathlon space. 1359 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 4: But I was doing that and just create an Instagram 1360 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 4: say I'm gonna I'm going to track my journey, follow 1361 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 4: my journey. And sneed is my nickname in high school. 1362 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 4: So I one thing led to another. 1363 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 1: So iron sned on Instagram and on Instagram. 1364 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 4: In our training profile is revitalize you training on Instagram 1365 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 4: and on website as well. 1366 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 2: Revitalize You Training. I'm going to make sure that I 1367 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 2: got plugged up with you and Max tell you guys 1368 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 2: leave because I want to get right too. 1369 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: My friends. 1370 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 2: Still can't just save it all for yourself. Brother, Thank 1371 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 2: you for making the drive up here. Thank you for 1372 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 2: what guy's continuing to do and in through your life, 1373 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 2: your vulnerability, for your leadership, for your influence, your voice matters, 1374 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 2: and continue to own that influence, man, because you're doing 1375 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 2: a lot of good in the world, and I'm so 1376 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 2: grateful for the ways on which you continue to impact 1377 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 2: and inspire my life as well. 1378 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 3: Yes, joint of me, thank you brother. 1379 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 2: To our audience, here are bil different. I just wanted 1380 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 2: to say, if you heard nothing else from today's episode, 1381 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 2: I hope and pray that you heard that you were seeing, 1382 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 2: you were loved and you are not alone. And as 1383 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 2: you talk about faith, and as we talked about this 1384 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 2: mental health journey, I'm just reminded of a passage. I 1385 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 2: forget the reference, but it's in first or second. It's 1386 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 2: this idea, flee from the things that are holding you back. 1387 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 2: Pursue holiness, Pursue righteousness every single day, Pursue the Lord, 1388 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 2: pursue Heaven, pursue the hope of it. But then also 1389 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 2: fight the good fight of faith right like it's gonna 1390 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 2: be a dogfight. 1391 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: It's not going to be easy. 1392 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 2: I don't believe Christianity makes life easier, but it makes 1393 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 2: you stronger for the journey ahead. And then The last 1394 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 2: phrase is hold fast to the hope that has been 1395 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 2: set before us. God has given you a race to run, 1396 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 2: and I hope and pray that today would just have 1397 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 2: equipped you to run it with a little bit more endurance. 1398 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us. We love being 1399 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 2: a part of your life.