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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Carl Jackson Show. This is

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Speaker 1: your daily dose of Freedom. We've got a bang up

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Speaker 1: show for you today. We're gonna be talking about is

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Speaker 1: there really a MAGA split over Iran. We'll get into that. Also,

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Speaker 1: how Mam Danny is making poor landlords poor and rich

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Speaker 1: landlords richer. I'll get into that. And the Ayatola, the

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Speaker 1: Supreme leader that's supposedly alive.

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Speaker 2: Is he gay? We'll get into that and more.

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Speaker 1: But first I want to get to my guests, and

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Speaker 1: he's going to talk about some of these issues with me.

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Speaker 1: But RC Williams, you guys know him, you guys love him.

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Speaker 1: He's been on the show plenty of times before, and

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Speaker 1: he and his wife are just doing amazing work with

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Speaker 1: Watchman Action. They have a nationwide training event that's going

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Speaker 1: to be happening April fourth through fifth. RC, tell us

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Speaker 1: real quickly what that's going to be about, because you

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Speaker 1: guys are bringing you guys are doing one of the

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Speaker 1: things that I wanted to do in a sense with

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Speaker 1: RADI with podcasting, and it's more of a political analysis

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Speaker 1: with a biblical worldview. You break things down. You're getting

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Speaker 1: the church involved. I know at one point in time

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Speaker 1: you were involved with TP Action if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 1: But you've got jon thing going with Watchman Action, so

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Speaker 1: I'll tell people about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Carl, it's good to be back on with you. Man,

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Speaker 3: it's good to be back with the Carl Jackson Show family.

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Speaker 3: So Watchman Action equips the church to engage the culture.

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Speaker 3: For Juliana and I, this is our ministry. Many people

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Speaker 3: know us from the show from Sherlock Market Research, which

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Speaker 3: is our primary business. But with Watchman Action, Carl, we

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Speaker 3: came up with a pretty comprehensive training program. Three parts.

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Speaker 3: We help people to form their story, get their story

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Speaker 3: together so you can tell it scinctly. Then we help

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Speaker 3: you to organize and mobilize your people, because if you

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Speaker 3: can't measure it, you can't manage it, and you don't

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Speaker 3: want your best air traffic control person who make sure

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Speaker 3: all the meetings happen out knocking on doors. And then

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Speaker 3: the final part is you start with the end in mind,

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Speaker 3: so we help you to develop a game plan and

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Speaker 3: a timeline with the milestones you need to hit to

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Speaker 3: advocate for what ever issue you want and to win

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Speaker 3: that battle each and every day. So Carl, what happens

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Speaker 3: is we've been all over the country. You know, we've

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Speaker 3: been on with you. We've traveled all over the place

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Speaker 3: and taught people. We've had people from all parts of

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Speaker 3: the country say when are you coming, When are you coming?

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Speaker 3: When are you coming? So what we decided to do

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Speaker 3: is to just do a nationwide virtual training event. That way,

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Speaker 3: people who we can't get to or can't get to

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Speaker 3: us have an opportunity to do it. And this is

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Speaker 3: going to be a series, Carl. We'll probably do these

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Speaker 3: two to three times a year. We're calling it the

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Speaker 3: Mega Training because you're going to get the whole Watchman

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Speaker 3: Action training over two days, eight total hours. We'll do

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Speaker 3: it on a Saturday and a Sunday, and we tell

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Speaker 3: people come ready to work, come ready with your questions,

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Speaker 3: come ready with your plans. Because the training is interactive

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Speaker 3: and we wanted to make it available for everybody. So, Carl,

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Speaker 3: for people who want to register super easy, just go

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Speaker 3: to Watchmanaction dot Org. You'll see it right on the

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Speaker 3: front page. You'll see the link so you can get

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Speaker 3: signed up and Carl, for you guys, if they use

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Speaker 3: the code Patriot, they'll get ten percent off nine dollars

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Speaker 3: to join. But if you use Patriots, you get ten

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Speaker 3: percent off, all right.

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Speaker 1: You used to call Patriot get fifty percent off real

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Speaker 1: quick again, RC, there were three things that you mentioned

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to just rush over.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Carl, I mean the keys to victory right, it's

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Speaker 3: being able to tell your story succinctly. So you've got

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Speaker 3: So when you come out of the training, you got

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Speaker 1: What motivated you and Juliana to do this, because this

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Speaker 3: Carl, it's a great question. You know. You know us

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Speaker 3: well with Sherlock Market research. We've been on the show

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to argue with you there, go ahead, RC,

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Speaker 1: but it's true.

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Speaker 3: As you know, with all of our research, we started

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Speaker 3: And we are the Watchman Weekly, which connects the dots

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Speaker 3: that point, Carl, that we realized there was a giant

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Speaker 3: what if we bridge that gap right? And then we

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Speaker 3: and then Watchmen Action was born. So we're simple equipped

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Speaker 3: the church to engage the culture by helping them to

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Speaker 3: every day. And Carl, what we found in the thirty

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Speaker 3: just in Sarasota last weekend doing one, is that the

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Speaker 3: working on their issue while they're still in the training.

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Speaker 3: And that's exciting because what often happens is you get

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Speaker 3: that training was great, and then nothing happens. Right. It's

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Speaker 3: kind of the rubber chicken dinner theory. You go here

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Speaker 3: a speaker, you have a bad rubber chicken dinner, you're

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Speaker 3: excited for twelve hours, then nothing happens. Thirty days later,

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why I think that it's extremely important. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: involved Christian wants to learn how to engage the culture guys.

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Speaker 2: I think this is so important for the conservative movement.

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Speaker 1: Republican parties. Some libertarians might not like that, some others

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Speaker 1: we do have Judeo Christian values. But you have a

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Speaker 1: And it's amazing to me. You can go to any

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Speaker 1: church oftentimes, and yes, you know, if use your gifts

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Speaker 1: from politics? No, that is absolutely insane, especially when you

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Speaker 1: so this is a good way to push back. So again,

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Speaker 1: it's watchmanaction dot org. Is that correct, RC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Carl. If people go to Watchmen Action, it's plural,

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Speaker 3: So it's watch in the enaction dot org. If they go,

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Speaker 3: the flyer and the link to get registered. We're we're

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Speaker 3: the Carl Jackson Show people are awesome and all right,

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Speaker 1: All right, well cool, please please please please make sure

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Speaker 1: you go to Watchmanaction dot Org. Guys, Let's kick some

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Speaker 1: booty in twenty twenty six. Let's kick some booty in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight and all the way into eternity. Let's

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Speaker 1: take this nation back and Watchmanaction dot Org can help

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Speaker 1: you do that. Okay, RC, let's segue, is there really

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Speaker 1: a MAGA split over Aaran?

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Speaker 2: I say no, But what say you? And then let's

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Speaker 2: get into some details here.

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Speaker 3: So Carl, you know, last time I was on with you,

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Speaker 3: I said, also comes division. So here we are they're

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Speaker 3: a split with the magabase. I think there is, Carl

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Speaker 3: chafe moment. Look, President Trump is in a difficult space

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Speaker 3: That's not what I necessarily wanted to see. And was

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Speaker 3: there justification to go in, Yeah, I think so. But

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Speaker 3: who are sore with that. But Carl, I think what's

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Speaker 1: Fair all right, welcome back to the program. I'm joining

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Speaker 1: in many Americans' mouth. And that's why I think Trump

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Speaker 1: is determined to do this differently. So ARC is upset

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Speaker 1: with the timing, or at least bothered by the timing.

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Speaker 1: I think this is amazing. I think what we're seeing

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Speaker 1: are the gloves off. I've never heard of an enemy

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Speaker 1: that has lost their lost their missile defense, lost their

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Speaker 1: navy fleet, lost their missile fleet literally within a matter

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Speaker 1: of a couple of weeks. This is absolutely unheard of.

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Speaker 1: And I think what's happening now, from what I understand,

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Speaker 1: what's happening now. The troops that are on the ground

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Speaker 1: are Asraeli troops that are going in and kicking butt

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Speaker 1: and taking names, getting some of the IRGC and the

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Speaker 1: banji or whoever those foods are. Hopefully they kill them all.

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Speaker 1: But so that's why I think I think this will

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Speaker 1: wrap up within sixty to ninety days.

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Speaker 2: That is my hope. If it isn't.

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Speaker 1: If it doesn't, I will say this, I can see

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Speaker 1: at that point to RC's point, because a lot of

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Speaker 1: MAGA people will be absolutely upset if it doesn't wrap

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Speaker 1: up relatively quickly. But I think Trump is doing the

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Speaker 1: right thing, and I think the timing is really good

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Speaker 1: thus far.

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Speaker 3: So Carl, I mean, look, there's so much we don't know, right.

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Speaker 3: Did Trump have to make a move likely or they

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Speaker 3: probably wouldn't have made it. I mean, it's a pretty

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Speaker 3: big deal, right when you do something like this. I

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Speaker 3: think for some people what they saw in Venezuela is

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Speaker 3: they saw a surgical strike, but they saw use of

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Speaker 3: new weaponry. I don't know how many people followed this,

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Speaker 3: but they knocked out Maduro's guard in like fifteen seconds

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Speaker 3: because they used a combination of sound and other targeted

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Speaker 3: strike weapons. And I think some people wonder if listen,

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Speaker 3: if you were just going to cut the head off

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Speaker 3: the snake and go after the Iyahtola and the Mullahs,

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Speaker 3: could you not have done the same thing relatively quickly

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Speaker 3: and been done with it? Or what else don't we know? Now? Again,

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Speaker 3: there's so much as classified. Obviously you can't let everybody

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Speaker 3: know what you're going to do. But I think those

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Speaker 3: questions come up, Carl, when you have a situation like

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Speaker 3: Venezuela and then you go to Iran and the next

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Speaker 3: thing that's on our doorstep is the situation in Cuba.

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Speaker 3: They're being squeezed right now, right it's about to open up,

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Speaker 3: and you start to wonder, well, it's like, well, if

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Speaker 3: those actions were quick and kinetic, then what happened with Iran?

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Speaker 3: What is the difference If we're the biggest military and

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Speaker 3: most powerful military in the world, what happened? Legitimate questions? Again,

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Speaker 3: so much we don't know, but those are legitimate questions

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Speaker 3: from people.

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Speaker 2: Can you stick with me for one more segment?

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Speaker 3: RC?

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Speaker 1: At some of the time, Okay, one more segment. RC

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Speaker 1: Williams Watchmanaction dot Org. Watchmanaction dot Org. A great conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, listen, I am a you know I say this.

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Speaker 3: Anything I say, It's not like I wouldn't say it publicly.

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Speaker 3: I'd stand out on a street corner and say it.

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Speaker 3: So I don't care. We're still streaming. Is you know

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Speaker 3: you grew up you grew up in La I grew

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Speaker 3: up in San Francisco, and growing up in the hood,

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Speaker 3: you understand how it works. That's why I say world

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Speaker 3: politics is like the penitentiary. People need to understand that

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Speaker 3: when a bully poses a threat, they have to be neutralized.

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Speaker 3: So maybe I'm not a warhawk per se, but I

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Speaker 3: understand muscle and when to use it. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I think that one of the things that we weren't

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Speaker 3: really ready for, and this is still kind of playing out,

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Speaker 3: is after nine to eleven, we're dealing with an enemy

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Speaker 3: in a very different way, right, So us being lax

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Speaker 3: pre Trump and letting all of these people in that

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Speaker 3: are basically sleeper cells. You don't know what triggers them,

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Speaker 3: you don't know where, how they're going to attack. They're

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Speaker 3: going to do it unconventional, and that's the kind of

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Speaker 3: two headed monster that we're fighting right now. It's like

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Speaker 3: if if you go and Napoleon understood this fir as

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Speaker 3: crazy as he was, if you decapitate the leadership quickly,

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Speaker 3: we got to kill this.

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Speaker 1: Is wait, this is a great point, RC, and I

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Speaker 1: want to make sure that it's live because it's in.

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Speaker 2: The podcast too. So let's let's get to it. Let's

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Speaker 2: go right back to it.

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Speaker 1: Uh, and then if you can remember what you said,

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Speaker 1: because it is a it is a great point. I

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Speaker 1: actually think there's an answer to it, but there it

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Speaker 1: is a very good point. I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: that people hear it.

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Speaker 3: You got a boss, whatever you need.

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Speaker 1: All right, you let us know here, Gabe. I used

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Speaker 1: to always call people boss and when I was when

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Speaker 1: I was a little I don't know why I haven't

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Speaker 1: caught everybody Boston Chief.

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Speaker 4: All right, are we live? Oh, welcome back to the

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Speaker 4: Carl Jackson Show. I'm joining with my guests. RC Williams

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Speaker 4: Watchmanaction dot Org. Watchmanaction dot Org. Don't forget guys, please

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Speaker 4: remind me. I can pull it up on my phone,

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Speaker 4: but I know you know it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, now, let's get right back to the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Is there really a MAGA split over Iran? And again,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the polling, the polling would suggest otherwise.

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Speaker 1: But I have to admit there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that are you know, they don't like this idea

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Speaker 1: of going into Iran. They believe that it is totally unnecessary.

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Speaker 1: And RC, you were making some great points during the break.

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Speaker 1: If you would continue with those points, I do believe

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Speaker 1: that I have at least somewhat of an answer for them,

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Speaker 1: or I'd least like to try and answer them. But

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Speaker 1: I'd love for the audience to hear your argument, because

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Speaker 1: one thing, whether you agree or disagree with RC, he's

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Speaker 1: always gonna make a great argument.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Carl, So what we're talking about during the

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Speaker 3: break is the fact that you know, you grew up

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Speaker 3: in La I grew up in San Francisco. You know,

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Speaker 3: being in the hood, you understand power dynamics, which is

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Speaker 3: why I said that world politics is like the penitentiary. Now, look,

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Speaker 3: as I said earlier, I'm a boxing fan. If you're

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Speaker 3: gonna if you need to knock somebody out, you need

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Speaker 3: to knock them out, like, don't let a bum hang around.

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Speaker 3: Because you've let a bum hang around long enough, they

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Speaker 3: will eventually knock you out or they'll hurt you real bad. So, Carl,

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Speaker 3: what I was saying is that after nine to eleven,

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Speaker 3: we're dealing with an enemy in a different way. Right.

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Speaker 3: You know what did clubber Lang say about Rocky Balbo?

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Speaker 3: Is my type? He comes straight ahead, But then when

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Speaker 3: Balboa changed his tactics and went non traditional, club Lang

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Speaker 3: was confused. So take that for a second and understand

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Speaker 3: that pre Trump having these weak administrations or whatever deals

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Speaker 3: were being done, we let so many of the enemy

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Speaker 3: into the country, Karl, that we don't know what's going

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Speaker 3: to set off a sleep or sell and we're kind

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Speaker 3: of in a battle where we're dealing with people who

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Speaker 3: fight Kravmago's style. If you've ever done that, Israeli close

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Speaker 3: quarter combat is highly effective, but it is very untraditional.

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Speaker 3: So it's hard for us now to say we're going

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Speaker 3: to go into this thing and then we're just going

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Speaker 3: to kind of see what happens. We can't do that.

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Speaker 3: Napoleon figured this out, for as crazy as he was,

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Speaker 3: is that he knew he had to go in and

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Speaker 3: decapitate the leadership of a group as quickly as possible,

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Speaker 3: because if he could do that in a meaningful way,

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Speaker 3: he would kill the morale of all the other soldiers

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Speaker 3: and they would basically stop fighting. Carl I think that's

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Speaker 3: why when I look at this, I say, look, man,

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Speaker 3: we've got the greatest military in the history of the world.

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Speaker 3: We can deliver knockout blows. We did it in Venezuela

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Speaker 3: in less than thirty six hours, and it was done

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Speaker 3: and we use some weaponry that scared the heck out

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Speaker 3: of people. Right people are going to start asking if

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Speaker 3: we did that there, why couldn't we do that in Iran?

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Speaker 3: And coming right up behind that is the situation in Cuba.

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Speaker 3: We're squeezing Cuba right now to the point where Cuba said, Uncle,

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Speaker 3: We're going to open up our borders. You want to

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Speaker 3: come and invest. Great, Cuba's about to be broken wide open.

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Speaker 3: So people say, we did it with Cuba, you did

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Speaker 3: it with Venezuela. What's going on with Iran? More complex?

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Speaker 3: I will certainly say that, But people start asking those

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Speaker 3: questions because we're dealing with a non conventional enemy, Carl,

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Speaker 3: and we're already starting to see those cells activate in

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Speaker 3: the US, which is going to have people on edge.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is what I say, Praise God to that.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 1: I believe that if Trump didn't deal with this, we

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Speaker 1: would be forced to deal with this. And I'll just

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Speaker 1: stray it straight up, saying, whether it's a left left,

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Speaker 1: he may win in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Jd Vance, I'll be honest with you. I don't have enough.

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Speaker 1: I think JD Vance would make a great president. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that he would make an exceptional president. There's

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Speaker 1: some things about JD Vance I question. That's why I

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Speaker 1: to see the Santis on stage. I want to see Rubio,

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Speaker 1: I want to see JD.

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Speaker 2: Vans.

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Speaker 1: I don't want A. I forget the name. Now, I

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Speaker 1: don't want a coronation. I simply, I simply don't want that.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to deal with this threat while

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Speaker 1: Trump is in office. And I would argue this when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Venezuela. Venezuela was set up very, very

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Speaker 1: different Venezuela. Obviously, with Maduro he had his close knit people,

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Speaker 1: and I mean it was so bad. He was paranoid.

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Speaker 1: Like Bill Clinton was back in the day. He had

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Speaker 1: to have Cubans that were his security guard basically or

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Speaker 1: what have you. They were able to knock them out effectively.

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Speaker 1: Because Maduro was so paranoid. He didn't have his tentacles everywhere. Now,

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Speaker 1: I would argue that the Ayatola was somewhat paranoid, but

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Speaker 1: expanded across the entire country through the RIRGC do the

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Speaker 1: killing people upwards of a million people, and so the

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Speaker 1: only way that we could do the type of damage

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Speaker 1: that we're doing, and I think we're doing exceptional damage

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Speaker 1: because remember it was US. It's the US and Israel

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Speaker 1: working together. Where President Trump is like, listen, we're going

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Speaker 1: to knock out the big infrastructure. But when it comes

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Speaker 1: go time, when it comes for troops on the ground,

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Speaker 1: you guys are going to have to do you do

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Speaker 1: a lot of the work, because that's just something that

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Speaker 1: we don't necessarily want to do. But what we're going

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Speaker 1: to do is lay the ground game. And actually, the

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Speaker 1: weaponry that they've been using in Iran has actually worked

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Speaker 1: magnificently to the point where remember it was Iran that

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Speaker 1: bought so much highness a hypersonic missile defense systems and

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. It is done nothing against

647
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Speaker 1: the United States of America. So people are seeing the

648
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Speaker 1: power of the United States of America even through even

649
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Speaker 1: through Iran.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I think this.

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Speaker 1: I think because we're so because Trump has been so

652
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Speaker 1: tactical with sole money with Maduro. But this was always

653
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Speaker 1: going to be a longer battle. This was always going

654
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Speaker 1: to be a longer conflict or dare I say war.

655
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Speaker 1: I just don't think it'll be past sixty or ninety days.

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Speaker 1: And frankly, the weaponry that they have been using again

657
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Speaker 1: to take out the Navy, to take out the missile fleet,

658
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Speaker 1: to take out to take out missiles to pinpoint the leadership.

659
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Speaker 1: They did something differently. Remember what Trump did is he

660
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Speaker 1: took out the leadership. He took out the top dogs,

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Speaker 1: so that there would be chaos, so that there would

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Speaker 1: be in fighting. Because the goal was, if we're not

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Speaker 1: going to put boots on the ground, the Iranian people

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Speaker 1: are gonna have to fight for themselves. Or perhaps the

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Speaker 1: military law enforcement who are not the IRGC that are

666
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Speaker 1: a little bit more loyal to the people might say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going to fight alongside you guys. But short of

668
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Speaker 1: putting boots on the ground, the best thing that the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration the US can do is knock out Iran's

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Speaker 1: ability and their leadership to be able to attack anyone.

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Speaker 1: And we see what happened all of these people in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East that thought that they could just col tew.

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Speaker 2: To Iran.

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Speaker 1: Look at where all the missiles flew. People want to

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Speaker 1: blame Israel. People want to blame the United States. Those

676
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Speaker 1: people had those missiles set on those other countries because

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Speaker 1: Iran was destined to take over. They wanted to take

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Speaker 1: over the Middle East. So I look at this and

679
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Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, Trump is smart. You start with the

680
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Speaker 1: easy one. You start with Venezuela because you know his

681
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Speaker 1: apparatus is weak. You know, you can choke off Cuba.

682
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Speaker 1: You know you can sanction Russia, you can prevent oil

683
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Speaker 1: from going in and out. And then we go with

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Speaker 1: the next big dog. We go with Iran, but obviously

685
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Speaker 1: obviously their infrastructure is much better. Several tiers again, one

686
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Speaker 1: million IRGC. That's totally different than Maduro, who's one guy

687
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Speaker 1: and has a security team who we can use like

688
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Speaker 1: some stuff to bust their ear drums, go in, disorientum

689
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Speaker 1: and kill them. I just think that what Trump is doing,

690
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: they're not getting the credit that they deserve. Listen to

691
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Speaker 1: this real quick and I'll let you respond here. RC

692
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Speaker 1: total air attack is gone, the skies are open. Fifty

693
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Speaker 1: to sixty top leaders taken out, one hundred scientists taken out,

694
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Speaker 1: general's taken out, Mula's taken out, political leaders taken out

695
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Speaker 1: to the point where we may have a gay ayahtola

696
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Speaker 1: that may be around with one less leg.

697
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Speaker 2: We don't know.

698
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Speaker 1: We tried negotiating that didn't work, But now we're using

699
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Speaker 1: weaponry drones even where we've now surpassed that Ukraine had

700
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Speaker 1: the best capability when it came to drones because they

701
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Speaker 1: had developed it during Russia. We've surpassed Ukraine and our

702
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Speaker 1: technology when it comes to drones in a very short

703
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Speaker 1: period of time. So I got to say, I just think,

704
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Speaker 1: I mean our ability to be able to take out

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Speaker 1: one of the supposed top enemies of our day and

706
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Speaker 1: expose them as a paper tiger with our pinpoint strikes

707
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Speaker 1: and with the now the idf on the ground.

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you, this thing is moving way

709
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Speaker 2: faster than I thought it would.

710
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Speaker 3: So Carl, let me put a bow on this right,

711
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Speaker 3: because here we are back at the beginning, and I

712
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Speaker 3: think here's what the biggest challenge is. Now we've laid

713
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Speaker 3: out a very cohesive case about what could be right

714
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Speaker 3: and what could be wrong, and I think most people

715
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Speaker 3: would say, you know what, I can see all of

716
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Speaker 3: that together and come to a conclusion that makes sense

717
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Speaker 3: to me as to why we're doing this and why

718
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Speaker 3: it's happening this way. Here is the challenge that we

719
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Speaker 3: run into. All due respect to President Trump, you've got

720
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Speaker 3: to cohesively and coherently delivered this message to the American people.

721
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Speaker 3: You can't come out here one day and say I

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Speaker 3: think this is going to be done in a day

723
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Speaker 3: and then come back and say, I think it's going

724
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Speaker 3: to be sixty carl from the leader of the free world.

725
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Speaker 3: The world expects guidance and stability, and if it's going

726
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Speaker 3: to be bad, just tell people it's going to be bad.

727
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Speaker 3: Lay it out, be very clear. Hey, listen, this is

728
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Speaker 3: going to take a minute. Here's what we expect to happen.

729
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Speaker 3: That's all I can tell you. But please understand it's

730
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Speaker 3: going to be in this timeframe when you start to waffle,

731
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Speaker 3: because then what happens is that when the President of

732
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Speaker 3: the United States speaks, the markets move, and that's always

733
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Speaker 3: dangerous when you're shooting for stability, not four dollars plus

734
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Speaker 3: a gallon gas. Right, You've got to be clear with

735
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Speaker 3: the American people. And if I could say anything to

736
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Speaker 3: President Trump and the administration is mean what you say,

737
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Speaker 3: and say what you mean, and don't let the day decide.

738
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Speaker 3: You're in a mood, you feel a certain way, you

739
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Speaker 3: want to talk about a certain thing in a certain way.

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Speaker 3: Don't let that deter from a very clear message that

741
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Speaker 3: the American people and people around the world frankly need

742
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Speaker 3: to hear because they look at us and they say,

743
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Speaker 3: if America is doing this, it is for stability, security

744
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Speaker 3: and peace. That's how perceived when we do things like this,

745
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Speaker 3: outside of whoever says America is crazy, we are a

746
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: little bit, but not like that. So if that's the move,

747
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: we have to be consistent in our messaging. If we're not, Carl,

748
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: we end up with conversations like this where people like

749
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Speaker 3: are genuinely confused and they come to us and they're like,

750
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Speaker 3: what's the answer? Can you just help me understand what

751
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: the context is. If I could say anything to the administration,

752
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: it would be that like, just mean what you say,

753
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Speaker 3: and say what you mean and stay consistent with the message,

754
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Speaker 3: you know what?

755
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Speaker 2: And I would say that's a fair point.

756
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Speaker 1: The only thing that I would push back on is

757
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Speaker 1: President Trump has I give him the benefit of the

758
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Speaker 1: doubt because the guy wants to be unpredictable, and I

759
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: agree with you, the communication could be much better. But

760
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Speaker 1: at the same time, again I give him the benefit

761
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: of the doubt because he likes being unpredictable. However, I

762
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Speaker 1: will concede if this goes past sixty to ninety days,

763
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Speaker 1: this is going to spell trouble. I do believe for

764
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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. I don't think it's going to go

765
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Speaker 1: past sixty days. I think we are witnessing something that

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Speaker 1: is absolutely historic. And for the first time since World

767
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Speaker 1: War Two, the US military has President Trump has allowed

768
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Speaker 1: the military to take in the gloves off and they

769
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: are kicking booty as a result of this. And I

770
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Speaker 1: think when it's all said and done, people have short

771
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: memories today. As long as President Trump can get this

772
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Speaker 1: economy that going by the summer and get gas prices down,

773
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Speaker 1: this will almost be forgotten. But anyway, RC, watchmanaction dot

774
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Speaker 1: or appreciate you man, Thank you brother. All right, RC,

775
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: we just have to make sure you man. That was

776
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Speaker 1: good conversation. RCI, that was one of the best conversations

777
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Speaker 1: I've had in some time. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: There's what we do, man, challenge him. I thinking they're

779
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: good stuff, good stuff.

780
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Speaker 3: We have to because if we don't. If we don't,

781
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: then what are we doing? Right? And this has been

782
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Speaker 3: my argument the whole time is that in a constitutional republic,

783
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Speaker 3: we are specifically designed for this type of engagement. And

784
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Speaker 3: people can be wrong, but if you don't let them

785
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: express themselves, you'll never have any context on how to

786
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 3: correct them, and there's going to be some things where

787
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: we're like, hey, listen, here's how I see it. And

788
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: you know, the thing for President Trump is I get

789
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 3: he likes to be unpredictable. Here's a challenge. You can

790
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: be unpredictable to a point. But as we tell people

791
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Speaker 3: on the business side, because what we do on the

792
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: research side, if you're not careful, everything you say has

793
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: it's systemic. Right, because when you're the president of the

794
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: United States, people take you literally. Right. It's like us,

795
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: if we go train and we say tomorrow, hey, here's

796
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Speaker 3: everything you need to do, and it's all wrong, people

797
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: will take us literally because our reputation is those people

798
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Speaker 3: know what they're talking about. And so we have to

799
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Speaker 3: be very conscious, like when you have a microphone in

800
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Speaker 3: front of you. We're doing this right now. We have

801
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Speaker 3: to be very conscious of what we say and what

802
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 3: we don't say, right, because people take that and run

803
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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, un lessen, strong points, fair points. You know,

805
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Speaker 1: at some point in time, they started arguing, listen, we

806
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: want to make sure there's no nukes. We want to

807
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: make sure or that there's no missile capability. We want

808
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: to make sure the Navy they may perhaps they need

809
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Speaker 1: to repeat this over and over again. I think there

810
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Speaker 1: needs to be somebody. Frankly, I think Rubio needs to

811
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Speaker 1: be out there more to explain what's happening in the macro,

812
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Speaker 1: and I do believe that more people would get behind it.

813
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Speaker 3: But you're right.

814
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Speaker 1: I do agree that it has to end quick. I

815
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Speaker 1: have full confidence that this is going to end before

816
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Speaker 1: ninety days, actually sixty to ninety days. And if I'm wrong,

817
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Speaker 1: I'm going to bring you back on and say our

818
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Speaker 1: see I was wrong, all right, we better.

819
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Speaker 4: Get the economy back up in coin and these gas

820
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Speaker 4: prices down quick.

821
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Speaker 3: I want to be wrong, Carl, I still want to

822
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Speaker 3: be wrong.

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Speaker 1: You know me, No, I know it's a fair point.

824
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Speaker 1: What's so frustrating to me? I hope this serves as

825
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Speaker 1: an opportunity. We don't need oil from the Middle East,

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Speaker 1: and that's why it's our so called natal allies are

827
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Speaker 1: really pissing me off.

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Speaker 2: We don't need that.

829
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Speaker 1: What is it, one to two percent of our oil

830
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Speaker 1: comes through the Strait of Hormuse. We are drilling here

831
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Speaker 1: in the Western Hemisphere, and now we've got Venezuela so

832
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Speaker 1: much so at some point the Trump administration is going

833
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Speaker 1: to have.

834
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Speaker 2: To figure out how do we divorce ourselves from that.

835
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Speaker 2: I'm hoping all of that will come from this, So we'll.

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Speaker 3: See, Carl. You know, the Saudis have to have a

837
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Speaker 3: soft landing on this thing because the promise was made

838
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Speaker 3: years ago with Kissinger as to why we do what

839
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Speaker 3: we do in the Middle East, and so the Saudis

840
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Speaker 3: a deal with oil and exchange for protection and everybody

841
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Speaker 3: would buy in US dollars. That's changing, but Saudi Arabia

842
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Speaker 3: is an ally good batter and different that has to

843
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Speaker 3: be dealt with, which is why I think we have

844
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Speaker 3: some of this residual because those promises were made, not

845
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Speaker 3: necessarily for the better opinion, not necessarily for the better,

846
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Speaker 3: but they're still there, and so the Saudis have to

847
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Speaker 3: have some assurances that they're going to be okay in

848
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Speaker 3: this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: So, you know what, and I have a sneaky suspicion

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Speaker 1: that they are, which is why, which is why the

851
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Speaker 1: Prince has been in public saying no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you can't use our base as our airspace, or at

853
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Speaker 1: least initially, and then calling Trump. You know, they've been

854
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Speaker 1: talking every day. I just heard reports that they've been

855
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Speaker 1: talking every day, and he has been begging Trump finish

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Speaker 1: the job.

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Speaker 2: They've got the pipeline going.

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Speaker 1: Through Saudi Arabia to try to bypass the Strait of Hormuth.

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Speaker 1: So Saudi Arabia is trying to make sure they stay independent.

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Speaker 1: And these people are still trading in petrol dollars. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's going to change anytime soon. But we'll

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Speaker 1: see again. I will God's to honest truth. I will

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Speaker 1: be inviting you on to say, Carl, I told you so.

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Speaker 2: If this thing goes past.

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Speaker 1: Sixty or ninety days, listen, I'll be slapping myself at

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Speaker 1: that point because I'll be like, Okay, dude, we cannot

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Speaker 1: lose this election.

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Speaker 3: Carl. Do you know so we've talked about this for years.

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Speaker 3: I always want to be wrong. Here's what's crazy. You

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Speaker 3: were so at the cutting edge. When I came home

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Speaker 3: when we did the Wegman story, one of the things

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Speaker 3: I talked about was the relationship between Ring cameras and

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Speaker 3: flock Ai. Do you know that that Amazon got so

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Speaker 3: much heat from the Super Bowl commercial that they broke

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Speaker 3: off their relationship with flock Ai.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that, and we told people were like, listen,

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Speaker 3: y'all need to step up and deal with this. And

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Speaker 3: so Ring thought that people were so enamored with the

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Speaker 3: fact they could have a ring camera. They ran a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl commercial basically telling you you were in a

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Speaker 3: surveillance state and those ring cameras were going to be

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Speaker 3: trying to inside on and people had enough. They finally said,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not doing this anymore. And Amazon

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Speaker 3: was like, whoa, well, don't remove your ring cameras. Just

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Speaker 3: just we'll break up with flock right that they it

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Speaker 3: went quick. If people, if people will step up and

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Speaker 3: say it's enough, If you would just step up and

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Speaker 3: say it's enough, these people they'll fold like a cheap suit.

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Speaker 2: Well I hope they do that with the Save America Act.

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Speaker 3: Me too, man. They need to come on and handle

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Speaker 3: the business.

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Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, man, all right, appreciate yourc alright,

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Speaker 1: got it to you, all right, Take care, man,