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Speaker 2: All right, we're rolling Emma. Joe's here.

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Speaker 1: We haven't even said hi yet. This is going to

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Speaker 1: so much on the show. And Joe, you did some

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Speaker 2: I'm just turn it over to you where you want

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you so much. Wow. Hi, the audience

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Speaker 4: is getting this now, all Like, this is totally like real.

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Speaker 4: I haven't even greeted Alex yet. I literally feel like

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Speaker 4: I slid through the door. Yeah, I didn't do like

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Speaker 4: this isn't that I did crazy prep. It was just like,

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Speaker 4: now that we're doing this weekly thing, I feel like

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Speaker 4: it's easier for me to just dump links into a

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Speaker 4: memo on my phone as I find interesting things.

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Speaker 2: And that is the key to life.

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Speaker 1: So if anyone ever tried to take me out, just

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Speaker 1: make sure that everyone understands that the memos in.

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Speaker 2: My phone are gold.

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Speaker 1: I have notes on all the books I've read for

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Speaker 1: the last ten years. I've got notes on all my ideas.

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Speaker 1: There's so much show prep that's in the air. There's

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Speaker 1: so much useful stuff in my memos, and that's it.

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Speaker 2: Like that, that's how I do the show. People say,

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Speaker 2: how did you do so much content?

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Speaker 1: I write stuff down, Like as I think of stuff,

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Speaker 1: I write it down on my phone, Like I just

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Speaker 1: type it out. Sometime's two words, but somebody's the link.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what That's what I realized, you know. It's

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Speaker 4: that Like I was going from doing the morning of

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Speaker 4: as I think, then maybe that'll and like sometimes like

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe this is where we begin. Like I

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Speaker 4: saw the AOC thing about how she spent like nineteen

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Speaker 4: it's like shrink specializes in ketamine. Not a bad price.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, so let's start here. This is

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Speaker 2: where I was hoping you start.

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Speaker 1: So AOC nineteen thousand dollars in campaign cash on a

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Speaker 1: psychiatrist known for ketamine therapy therapy, which I mean, I

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Speaker 4: my usual brand. But I have contempt for modern therapy,

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Speaker 4: major contempt for it. And I don't want to extend

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Speaker 4: What that does, though, you know, is it strengthens you

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Speaker 1: And you're saying, you know, all these couples go to

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Speaker 2: So like is she get in the hook up with

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Speaker 4: Well, they found that this guy does like he distributes

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Speaker 1: people really like that. They like to hear, yeah, this

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Speaker 4: Well, that's it, and I find that especially we do

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Speaker 4: that as conservatives. I certainly have that tendency. I certainly

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Speaker 4: have the tendency myself and in what I talk about

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Speaker 4: and what I tweet about and write about to preach

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Speaker 4: not in a way that's trying to be condescending, actually

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Speaker 4: in the opposite, and to say like, this is what

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm expressing in my writing and in my thinking,

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Speaker 4: what I strive for and my ideal And that's the

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Speaker 4: way that I kind of orient myself in my life

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Speaker 4: when I wake up in the morning, is like, what

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Speaker 4: is the ideal person? And how do I get as

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Speaker 4: close to that thin in myself as possible? Love that,

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Speaker 4: you know, obviously that's the point. You know, I think

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Speaker 4: that's probably the point of a spiritual being. But you know,

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Speaker 4: I think that it's like, actually, you know, exactly like

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Speaker 4: what we were just talking about, which this BAP thing

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Speaker 4: kind of forces you to think about, is maybe we

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Speaker 4: don't integrate enough the of the you know, contemptible self,

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Speaker 4: you know. And and that's kind of what he's saying,

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Speaker 4: is that until you do that, you're gonna be trapped

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Speaker 4: in this sterile stiff uh. He calls it pandification, a

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Speaker 4: combination of in anthedonia and sexual clumsiness that makes per

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Speaker 4: creative sex obscure to modern females. And like there is

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Speaker 4: a tendency to that again. Obviously he's being very extreme

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Speaker 4: and the language is a little bit intense. But I

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Speaker 4: see that, you know, I see that mistake, and I

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Speaker 4: see that split. You know, he he talks about, I'll

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Speaker 4: read this past page too. It's like very funny, see then,

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Speaker 4: the utter uselessness of conservative and traditionalist imagery and rhetoric

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Speaker 4: when it comes to this group. And then he uses,

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Speaker 4: for example, the Asian college female leads a conservative and

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Speaker 4: meritorious life. On average. She is not an impulsive hedonist,

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Speaker 4: nor a bohemian. She doesn't have indiscriminate sex, doesn't do drugs,

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Speaker 4: is conscientious, responsible, goes to college, gets a job, is

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Speaker 4: law abiding, not a criminal. Generally, I believe high trust

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Speaker 4: and low time preference and many such things. I would

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Speaker 4: guess for the red pilled natalists that at the time

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Speaker 4: of marriage, Asian females may have even a very low

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Speaker 4: or zero body count. So, you know, he talks about

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Speaker 4: how this cohort would be like the conservative ideal, right,

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Speaker 4: that's where we're all trying to get each other to be.

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Speaker 4: And yet they obviously have a very low fertility rate.

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Speaker 4: So he's just talking about how, you know, our tendency

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Speaker 4: is conservatives, and he's, by the way, a conservative. For

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Speaker 4: the audio is listening who doesn't know he is conservative, and.

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Speaker 1: He uses satirical premises to kind of introduce I think,

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Speaker 1: really big topics.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, but he's a conservative intellectual, right wing intellectual

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Speaker 4: at least. But he's just talking about, you know, this

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Speaker 4: would be the paragon of right wing virtue. And yet

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Speaker 4: for some reason, these women don't produce the trad wife lifestyle, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, and keeps just coming back to this thing

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Speaker 4: of like, you know, not this is not his language. Now,

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Speaker 4: this is my language of stop being so oppressive to

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Speaker 4: your id, stop being so oppressive to your impulse, and

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Speaker 4: it's actually your impulse that will allow you to become fertile.

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Speaker 4: And telling women that they have to become trad wives

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Speaker 4: and like engineer themselves into the perfect conservative and then

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Speaker 4: that's how there there, that's the way to children. That

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Speaker 4: that's not true. Interesting women in that position actually would

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Speaker 4: have had children anyway. That's their tendency.

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Speaker 1: Really interesting, and I think that I want to I

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Speaker 1: think that it's speaks This just speaks to me a lot,

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Speaker 1: just for my particular brand of conservatism, just the way

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Speaker 1: I you know, looked up he and your bright bar.

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Speaker 1: How I live out in la I just I'm a

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Speaker 1: conservative person and I'm on I have conservative platforms and

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Speaker 1: I speak to mostly conservative audience. But you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: one of the first critics of how movies used to

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Speaker 1: have a sexuality to them, like mainstream movies, and then

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Speaker 1: now they've it's all sex lesson neutered, and I just like,

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Speaker 1: I think that's horrible.

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Speaker 2: I think it's been bad for the art. So I

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Speaker 2: think it's movies.

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Speaker 4: You know, maybe this is like the work. Maybe we're

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Speaker 4: doing the work. Maybe AOC should start doing the work.

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Speaker 4: But I think what the work really is, you know,

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Speaker 4: to maybe like, you know, think take back really seriously

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Speaker 4: about this and actually maybe try to address the fertility

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Speaker 4: crisis in a way that is honest. Is to say, like,

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Speaker 4: like you know, obviously not not to to promote being

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Speaker 4: a hoe, but to say that, you know, maybe there

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Speaker 4: is maybe there is a switch. Maybe there is the

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Speaker 4: moment of a switch where you don't always have to

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Speaker 4: be the perfect conservative, maybe be a little bit less

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Speaker 4: of a perfect conservative at least to get yourself to

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Speaker 4: the place where you're willing to take enough risk to

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Speaker 4: do something totally irrational, like have kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's interesting how the people ask me because

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Speaker 1: I have four children, which is a lot for this.

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Speaker 2: Day and age, and it just stabatically yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then people kind of ask me what the four

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Speaker 1: is like, and I could give these answers that I

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Speaker 1: My answer is, you know, I felt like one child

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Speaker 1: was like having zero children, because it was it was

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Speaker 1: basically no work, which is just fun. And I thought

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Speaker 1: two children was like having three children because it took

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Speaker 1: up all my free time.

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Speaker 2: I was out of free time once I too.

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Speaker 1: And then I said, three children is like having two

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Speaker 1: children because they start playing with each other, so it's

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Speaker 1: actually less work than when you would two. So I

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Speaker 1: actually found that the third child that was when things

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Speaker 1: got easier. And then four children is like a million.

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Speaker 1: It's a I'm to have a million because I can't

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Speaker 1: give them all what they need, so I may as

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Speaker 1: well just have a million children.

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Speaker 2: And I find myself giving.

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Speaker 1: These answers, and I find it obviously. I think it's

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Speaker 1: an amusing kind of thing that I formulated, but that's

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Speaker 1: not really the point. The point is, are you passionate

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Speaker 1: about life? Do you want to have the most thorough

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Speaker 1: expirits imaginable. Are you in a home environment where you

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Speaker 1: trust your spouse enough that you can go on this adventure?

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Speaker 2: And that's what it's really about.

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Speaker 1: It's the spirit of adventure, and that's what I got.

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Speaker 1: My fourth child is completely fascinating and the dynamic in

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Speaker 1: the family change I think for the better. But it's

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Speaker 1: a lot more work, it's a lot more expensive, and

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Speaker 1: it just do you have a spirit of adventure? Like,

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Speaker 1: that's what it's about. It's not if I start making calculations,

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Speaker 1: is that I had the money I needed for what

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Speaker 1: I had three children, that once the fourth children came,

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Speaker 1: I needed more money. Like it's one of those things

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Speaker 1: where but that's not Is that what I'm here to

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Speaker 1: do to look at my bank statement and have that

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Speaker 1: decide whether I'm going to bring another life in this world.

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Speaker 1: It's a reality, but it's kind of gross to think

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Speaker 1: of it that way.

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Speaker 4: Oh totally agree, totally agree. And I approached it the

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Speaker 4: same way as you. In fact, I feel like I've

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Speaker 4: heard your voice sometimes in my thinking about about this

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Speaker 4: is like it's like you just being like, well, like

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Speaker 4: you can't afford it, Like you just do it? I remember,

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Speaker 4: I remember, Yeah, no, it is true. I remember sitting

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Speaker 4: in an old apartment listening to you on the phone,

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Speaker 4: tell me, tell me that, and it just stuck with me,

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Speaker 4: and it was something that led me through my apprehension

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Speaker 4: about having kids that I'm so grateful for because.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want for everyone, everyone, for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no, and tell your spouse or your fiance

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is that that's that's the approach. Just

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Speaker 1: go on an adventure, take an adventure with me. Don't make

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Speaker 1: it about a bank statement calculation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, totally, totally, but just super layman like as

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Speaker 4: it turns out, like money comes and goes. And also,

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Speaker 4: by the way, if you crash out, you're not giving

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Speaker 4: the kids up for adoption. So it's a stupid argument

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Speaker 4: in the first place.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so we're gonna run out at a time

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Speaker 1: today and I know that I've got to get because

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Speaker 1: you're You're not only does a parenting podcast, This is

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Speaker 1: a New York City Communist is the miss experiment tracking podcasts.

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Speaker 1: We're monitoring the situation in New York and it's just

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Speaker 1: we've got to get into some of the stuff that's

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Speaker 1: going on. Bernie Sanders is going to rally for a

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Speaker 1: New York tax increase, So always a man of the people.

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Speaker 2: But Mom Donnie's not going.

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Speaker 5: To be there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mom, Donny's got a rental plan that apparently could

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Speaker 1: risk pushing small landlords towards extinction. Obviously, if you're going

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Speaker 1: to cap rents, then small time landlords can't survive that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. So you get a big conglomerate behind it.

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Speaker 1: What's the most interesting stuff happening in your home city

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, So this weekend, I don't know when this

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Speaker 4: podcast coming out, but yeah, this weekend, which is going

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Speaker 4: to be, like I guess the twenty eighth Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 4: is coming to town to rally for showing unity. This

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Speaker 4: is the best it's like supposed to show that the

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Speaker 4: left is united in desire to tack Theroughrig. However, one

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Speaker 4: notable absence is going to be the mayor's orn. Mom Donnie,

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Speaker 4: who by the way, was sworn in by Bernie Sanders,

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Speaker 4: campaigned with Bernie Sanders and AOC is obviously the iconic

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Speaker 4: socialist right now and the face of the DSA nationwide.

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Speaker 4: And he's not going because the city is in the

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Speaker 4: middle of a well, I should say the state is

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Speaker 4: in the middle of a budget negotiation that will impact

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Speaker 4: the city, and he doesn't want to upset Kathy Hokel.

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Speaker 4: As we chronicled I think it was last episode. Zora

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Speaker 4: Mam Donnie is a company man for the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 4: He is just strictly concerned with not only agreeing or

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Speaker 4: working with the Democratic part already establishment in Albany and

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Speaker 4: elsewhere in Washington, but in actively running interference for them,

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Speaker 4: as in the case with Chios where he took a

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Speaker 4: perfectly fine, formidable Democratic Socialist candidate and bullied him out

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Speaker 4: of running against Hakeem Jeffries for the seat and bedside.

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Speaker 4: So he is chowing the line for the Democratic Party

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Speaker 4: and in the latest iteration of that, he's not going

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Speaker 4: to this rally with Bernie Sanders to tax the rich.

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Speaker 4: And I tweeted this actually when I read this article

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Speaker 4: because I thought it was so interesting and it so

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Speaker 4: perfectly fit with everything that we've been learning about zoron,

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Speaker 4: which is that he's just strictly obsessed with power, and

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Speaker 4: that makes him a perfect bedfellow for the Democratic Party

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Speaker 4: and the establishment Democratic Party because they have no beliefs,

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Speaker 4: so they're also strictly obsessed with power and personal power

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Speaker 4: for that matter. And this is just like, I guess

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Speaker 4: the latest example of that in that like can you

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Speaker 4: imagine if like uh, like like I can't even imagine

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Speaker 4: what the what the comparison would be. But it's like

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Speaker 4: you're just you're just completely blatantly publicly abandoning your biggest

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Speaker 4: advocate of apparently the policies that you care about, in

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Speaker 4: order to run cover for the biggest advocates of the

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Speaker 4: policies that you detest and that you ran against.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Because I don't think Zoron. You know, it's funny. I

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Speaker 4: don't think Zoron's not a socialist. I just don't think

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Speaker 4: he is a I think that he is more obsessed

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Speaker 4: with power than he is with the goals of socialism.

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Speaker 4: I am hersy. Lee actually wrote a piece in the

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Speaker 4: Washington Post which I was pretty amazed if the Washington

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Speaker 4: Post published it. Did you get a chance to read it?

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Speaker 4: I sent it to you.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't even I didn't even click on it,

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Speaker 1: so I don't. And it's the Washington Post, so I

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Speaker 1: probably couldn't open it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened. I couldn't. I couldn't open it.

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Speaker 2: At all. I didn't bother to do the to try.

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Speaker 4: She's she is. She is an incredible thinker, brilliant woman,

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Speaker 4: totally our girl. And she wrote an analysis in the

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Speaker 4: Washington Post against shocking that they published it. They must

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Speaker 4: be really going through a crisis out there. But about

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Speaker 4: Zorn and about his Islam and about his socialism. It

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Speaker 4: was really supposed to be apparently about his Islam, but

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Speaker 4: she marries his socialism to his Islam and explains him

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Speaker 4: in a way that is so brilliant, and explains his

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Speaker 4: behavior in a way that I didn't understand enough to

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Speaker 4: do last time. And I'll read one line from it, which, well,

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Speaker 4: one paragraph which encompasses I think the phenomenon that we're

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Speaker 4: watching so brilliantly in a way that only she could.

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Speaker 4: I highly recommend everybody check out Why Mom Donnie's Faith

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Speaker 4: Matters by Ian Hercili and share it if you can

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Speaker 4: stomach paying The Washington Post for a subscription. Uh So

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Speaker 4: is Mamdani simply using his Islamic identity as a convenient

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Speaker 4: political accessory while he governs as a secular progressive or

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Speaker 4: is he something more distinctive a man within whom two

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Speaker 4: militant world views, Islamism and socialism are not fighting each

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Speaker 4: other but fusing. Mamdani has described the Palestinian struggle as

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Speaker 4: quote the core of his politics and the thing that

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Speaker 4: drew him to the Democratic Socialists of America. By emphasizing

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Speaker 4: his Muslim heritage, he identifies with the oppressed. His asymmetric

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Speaker 4: treatment of different religious groups thus reflects a broader theory

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Speaker 4: of which groups are colonizers and which are colonized. The

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Speaker 4: Iranian philosopher, who she names I won't butcher it has

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Speaker 4: distinguished the Islam of identity from the Islam of truth.

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Speaker 4: The former deploys religion as a cultural armor while shortening

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Speaker 4: its metaphysical claims. Mamdani exemplifies one powerful version of the

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Speaker 4: Islam of identity. This view is Islam primarily not as

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Speaker 4: a set of religious teachings, but as an oppressed identity

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Speaker 4: that can serve as a locust and resistance.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's eat. That's exactly it.

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Speaker 1: That's what she just put her finger on what you

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Speaker 1: and I have been talking about, which is that his

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Speaker 1: Islam is sort of incidental to his leftism. It's a

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Speaker 1: way of it's not even incidental. It's a vehicle for

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Speaker 1: the leftism, and it's not there's something very performative about

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Speaker 1: the religious elements of what he does, and it seems

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Speaker 1: to mostly be about a He's mostly about advancing far

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Speaker 1: left politics and normalizing it in this country. And not

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Speaker 1: to say that it won't have the simultaneous effect of

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Speaker 1: normalizing forms of Islam that we don't want normalized in

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Speaker 1: our country, but it does seem like that's the second

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Speaker 1: tier priority, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like we've been circling is for a

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Speaker 4: number of weeks on this show, and it perfectly explains

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Speaker 4: these two things that are going on simultaneously, which is

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Speaker 4: one apparent elevation of Islam, but that doesn't actually stay

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Speaker 4: true to Islam as a faith, which we've discussed, you know,

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Speaker 4: where he's having his Ramadan celebrations with trans is And

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Speaker 4: then the second thing is this like apparent crave, like

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Speaker 4: craven desire for power that doesn't seem to elevate people

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Speaker 4: who share his policies. I eat ditching Bernie Sanders, I

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Speaker 4: eat you know, sharp elbowing chios. And it's like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 4: this says like a personal identity and personal power crusade

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Speaker 4: that we're all just watching, and it's fueled by the

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Speaker 4: desire to punish the oppressors, which in his mind is,

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Speaker 4: you know whatever, pick your victim, white people, rich people,

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Speaker 4: uptown people, first world people, whatever.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.

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Speaker 1: It's a great summary, all right, But I'm gonna leave

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Speaker 1: it there because I know you got a run and

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to run also, and this episode is gonna

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Speaker 1: be super long, so the I would love for you

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Speaker 1: to plug all the wonderful things you do. Please share

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Speaker 1: with the audience where else they can find you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I won't take too much time at Joe NYC

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Speaker 4: on Twitter if you want to get a preview of

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Speaker 4: I guess what the show is going to be every

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Speaker 4: week and otherwise on two Way.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta tell you, I have a favorite golf

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Speaker 1: podcast where I had to stop reading their Twitter because

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Speaker 1: it was it ruined the podcast because it was like

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Speaker 1: they would just have these tweets and they're like okay,

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Speaker 1: and but I wouldn't really have a big reaction to tweets,

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Speaker 1: and then I realized, oh, yeah, it's kind of ruining

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Speaker 1: the podcast, which I like, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's only like a limited number of thoughts I'm

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Speaker 4: about to have and I got to fill the TL.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No one's that good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, no one is that good where you

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Speaker 1: just have No I just have a hundred bangers every

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Speaker 1: day like it's just it doesn't No one's actually like that.

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Speaker 4: So I got like four thoughts and I'm sharing probably

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Speaker 4: three of them here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, no, I you had a fourth because

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Speaker 1: we can get some new some stuff I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get to.

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Speaker 2: But there's always next week and I'll always be.

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Speaker 1: More newsome, all right, So do we get some out

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Speaker 1: there the two Way pod.

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Speaker 4: Where we'll Yeah, we get podcast called the Group Chat

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Speaker 4: Emma Joe NYC on Twitter and thank you. The other

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Speaker 4: stuff is in public.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Ema Joe, see you next week. Thank you. All right.

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Speaker 2: Alright, New guests to the show today. Nicki Balou is here.

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Speaker 2: He is born in Iran then moved to the West.

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Speaker 2: He's a podcaster.

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Speaker 1: He is a thought leader in his own right, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's very knowledgeable and a lot of subjects

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Speaker 1: Youermaine to the news cycle today and a best selling

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Speaker 1: author as well. Nikki, I want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about your arc before we get into what's going on

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Speaker 1: today in Iran. But your family fled a rob and

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Speaker 1: you were a teenager when was this? What was life

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Speaker 1: like then? And then you moved to Canada and just

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Speaker 1: maybe compare contrast that a little bit.

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Speaker 5: You got it. So when I was eleven years old,

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Speaker 5: the Islamic Revolution took place. I was born in nineteen

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Speaker 5: sixty seven and nineteen seventy eight was when the first

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Speaker 5: rumblings started to happen. There were literally Alex gun battles

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Speaker 5: going on in the streets near my home. One day, though,

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Speaker 5: the freak out factor from my parents went up one

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Speaker 5: thousandfold when there was this big crash through our living

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Speaker 5: room window. Glass shards flew everywhere, and this object landed

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Speaker 5: near my feet. Now I'm eleven, I don't know what

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Speaker 5: the heck it is, but it was a bottle full

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Speaker 5: of liquid with a burning cloth wick, a Monotov cocktail.

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Speaker 5: So my dad grabbed it. He pulled out that burning wick,

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Speaker 5: which is the only reason I'm around to talk to

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Speaker 5: you today.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, it's crazy. And that's when they said, that's it,

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Speaker 5: We're out of here, and they made a plan and

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Speaker 5: they got us out of Tehran. We moved from Tehran

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Speaker 5: first to Athens, Greece, and we were waylaid there for

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Speaker 5: two years, and then finally we got from Greece to Toronto, Ontario, Canada,

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Speaker 5: where I live now. Now, when I first got to Canada,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I was a kid. I'm sure you can relate.

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Speaker 5: You were a kid yourself, Phon said. I didn't want

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Speaker 5: to leave my home or my friends, and I'm going,

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Speaker 5: why the hell are we here? But as time goes on,

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Speaker 5: I started to realize the nobility of my mom and

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Speaker 5: dad's sacrifice, because think about this, they're in their thirties

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Speaker 5: and they left behind everything and everyone they knew and

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Speaker 5: loved for a chance set of better life for me

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Speaker 5: and my two younger brothers, And I started to realize, Man,

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Speaker 5: what a beautiful legacy that left for us. They took

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Speaker 5: us from a legacy of tyranny to a legacy of freedom.

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Speaker 5: And I believe, Alex inside every human breast beats the

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Speaker 5: living heart of freedom. We all yearned to breathe free,

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Speaker 5: to march to the tune of our own drummer, to

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Speaker 5: chart our own course. And honestly, that's why I've become

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Speaker 5: a conservative, because I believe that conservatives in the world

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Speaker 5: are the people who see this with a clear eye

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Speaker 5: and take a bold stand for the rest of us

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Speaker 5: to remain free, while the liberals appear to have all

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Speaker 5: lost their minds and they think these crazy modern Nazis

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Speaker 5: are people they can cozy up to, which is absolutely insane.

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Speaker 1: So this is one thing that is we can just

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Speaker 1: start here. In terms of what's going on now, it

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Speaker 1: does feel like there's a lot of people in the

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Speaker 1: West who are.

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Speaker 2: Finding themselves defending.

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Speaker 1: The Iranian regime, and I know that they don't want

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Speaker 1: American ground troops in regime change war.

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Speaker 2: I understand that position.

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Speaker 1: I basically am with that position, but they're acting as

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Speaker 1: though now they have to stoop to the level of

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Speaker 1: where they're defending the Iyatola.

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Speaker 5: Essentially, that's true. I call it Trump de arrangement syndrome.

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Speaker 5: And I know that you've used that phrase yourself. If

866
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 5: Donald Trump cured cancer, these people would go online and

867
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 5: they'd say good things about cancer for crying out loud.

868
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 5: That's how crazy they are. They can't seem to accept

869
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 5: that Donald Try can make a single good decision or

870
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: do anything good for humanity. And here's the truth. The

871
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 5: Islamic regime in Iran is the modern day Nazis alex.

872
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 5: They declared war on the West in the United States

873
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 5: when they came into power. The only thing is every

874
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 5: single Western leader is stuck their head in the sand

875
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 5: and pretended it wasn't happening. But look at what these

876
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 5: folks have done. Nineteen eighty three Beirut bombing of the

877
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 5: US barracks in Beirut. Right, Bill Buckley, the CIA station

878
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 5: chief in Beirut, was kidnapped, tortured, murdered. Colonel Higgins of

879
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 5: the United States Marines killed by Hezbula, who's Hesbula. Hisbullah

880
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 5: is a group that believes in what the Mullahs in

881
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 5: Iran believe, and they're entirely funded and ideologically driven by

882
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 5: the Mullahs. These are bad people. They mean the West, ill,

883
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 5: they mean America. ILL. If they had a chance to

884
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 5: get their hands on nuclear material that they could use,

885
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 5: they would absolutely use it. They use it in Israel first,

886
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 5: they use it in Europe next, and finally they use

887
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 5: it in the United States. They would attempt to kill

888
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 5: millions of people because they've got an ideological view that

889
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 5: the world needs to be a one world Islamic katie fed,

890
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 5: which means caliphate in English, and that's what they're all about.

891
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 5: That's what they want to do. Donald Trump is the

892
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 5: first president to see the threat with a clear eye.

893
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 5: He said, Okay, you declared war on us. I'm going

894
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 5: to accept your declaration of war, and I'm want to

895
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 5: finish this war. He's doing the right thing. That's why

896
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 5: when I go to rallies in Toronto, people that are

897
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 5: Iranian and these rallies, they stand up and they say

898
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 5: thank you tenamp. That's Persian way of saying Trump, thank

899
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 5: you bb. They thank the United States and Israel for

900
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: what they're doing. There's videos of people in Iran alex

901
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 5: that are cheering the Israeli aircraft that are bombing them.

902
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 5: Imagine how desperate you have to be that you rather

903
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: be bombed than live under the regime that you're living

904
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 5: under right now. Imagine the state of minds you need

905
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 5: to have that that's preferable.

906
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Speaker 1: I am trying to and I think this is what's

907
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: interesting to me is I want to understand where you

908
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: think the Iranian people are, because it seems like there's

909
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: a deep disconnect between where the people are and where

910
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: the government power resides, because it's resides the Iatolas and

911
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: the IRGC and it seems like the people are not

912
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Speaker 1: on board with it.

913
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Speaker 2: But are there? Are there ready? Because it's such a it's.

914
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: A nation with so many different factions, so many tribal

915
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: elements to it, it's very complex from a far Can

916
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: you try to help us understand the essentials?

917
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 5: Absolutely? So, You're right, there are a lot of different

918
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 5: ethnic groups in you on They're the Balucas, they are

919
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 5: the lords. They're the Kurds, they're the Asaties, they're the Persians,

920
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 5: they're Arabs in Iran. Believe it or not, we are

921
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 5: really the first true melting pot. Cyrus Sigray back twenty

922
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 5: five hundred years ago made the Persian Empire the first

923
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 5: true melting pot of the world. But here's one thing

924
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 5: that virtually the entire country can agree on. The Islamic

925
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 5: Republic is the spawn of the devil. They've been repressing

926
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Speaker 5: the people of Iran for forty seven years. This is

927
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 5: how twisted this people are. If you're a woman and

928
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 5: they want to kill you, they're going to gang rape

929
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 5: you before they kill you, because in they're twisted ideology,

930
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 5: virgins get to go to heaven and they can't have that.

931
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 5: Think about how crazy and nutty that is. And I'm

932
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 5: going to tell you the only people that support the

933
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 5: Islamic Republic are hardcore religionists, which are about five to

934
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 5: seven percent of the country, plus the people that are

935
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 5: actually a part of the regime that benefit from being

936
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 5: a part of the regime. This is a total of

937
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 5: about eight to ten percent of the Iranian people. The

938
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 5: rest of the Iranian people hate their guts and want

939
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 5: to see them gone.

940
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: So what happens if the regime is deposed?

941
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: What would follow? Because this is one of the most

942
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: challenging questions.

943
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 5: I think absolutely agree with you. So are you familiar

944
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 5: with Rezo Pahlavi, the Crown Prince of your on, the

945
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 5: son of the Manta. So he has something called the

946
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 5: Prosperity Project for Iran. So he's brought one hundred senior

947
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 5: leaders from all kinds of different backgrounds to put together

948
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 5: a significant transition plan for Iran post the Islamic Republic.

949
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 5: They're looking at things like territorial integrity, They're looking at

950
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 5: things like form of government. They're looking at things what

951
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 5: they have to do to rebuild the economy, what they

952
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 5: have to do to reopen the country to the world.

953
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: So there is someone there that has actually taken the

954
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 5: time to put together a transition plan, and that's the

955
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 5: Crown Prince. But here's the other thing that's very very

956
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 5: important for your listeners and viewers to understand. The people

957
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 5: of Iran. When they've been out in the streets demonstrating

958
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 5: for their rights, the name on their lips invariably iss.

959
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 5: Here's one of the chants they say ino Jadabad bad

960
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 5: migad in English that means this is the last battle

961
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 5: pla return. And they are also chanting Javicha Javicha Javicha,

962
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 5: which means long live the Shaw. Here in the West,

963
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 5: the diaspora, which are nine million strong. Think about this,

964
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 5: The Irani and d'aspora around the world is nine million strong. Invariably,

965
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 5: at all the rallies, the name of Rassal pah Levi

966
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 5: is on their lips. The people of Iran, both within

967
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 5: and without the great country of Iran, want pah Lavie back.

968
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 5: Why because they remember those that are old enough the

969
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 5: time of the Shaw. The Shaw of Iran was probably

970
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 5: the most effective leader of the twentieth century. He took

971
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 5: a backward nation that was living fourteen centuries past and

972
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 5: brought them kicking and screaming into the twentieth century. By

973
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 5: the time his reign was over, Iran was one of

974
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 5: the top twenty great powers in the world. The Iranian

975
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 5: economy had grown by over twelve hundred percent in thirty

976
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 5: seven years. These are astounding numbers. If you look at

977
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 5: videos from Iran in the sixties and the seventies, it

978
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 5: looks like the West. Beautiful young girls are wearing mini skirts,

979
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 5: people are dancing, people are are are out in parks

980
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 5: holding hands. You know you got singers out there Some

981
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 5: of the best singers in the world are Iranian singers

982
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 5: from that era, people like Vegan, people like Googoosh and

983
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 5: Frank Sinatra, in my mother's opinion, the greatest entertainer of

984
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 5: all time. And you know, God blessed my mother. She said,

985
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 5: I'm the most faithful woman in the world. But if

986
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 5: Frank Sinatra came to see me, you tell me your dad,

987
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 5: all bets are off, baby. And she said to me

988
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 5: that one of the honors of her life was to

989
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 5: get to see him in concert. He came to Tehran

990
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 5: and he did a concert and all the tickets for

991
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 5: that show were sold out within ten minutes. My friend,

992
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 5: Iran was an oasis in the Middle East. It was

993
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 5: a Switzerland of the Middle East. And the people of

994
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 5: Iran have a collective memory of that, even people who

995
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 5: weren't alive at that time, and they want that time

996
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 5: back because these people have lived under the evil dictatorship

997
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 5: of the Islamic Republic, which is a vicious cross between

998
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 5: doctrinaire religiousy religiosity and Nazism and Marxism. Because everybody's poor,

999
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 5: except for a few people at the very top of

1000
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 5: the regime, nobody wants it anymore man. They want their

1001
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 5: country back. And Alex, I'm sure you might know one

1002
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 5: or two Persians in the United States that are acquaintances

1003
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 5: or friends of yours. They typically tend to be hyper educated,

1004
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 5: hard working, very successful, and they're out to be the

1005
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 5: best they can be in the world. These people are

1006
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 5: ready to go back and help rebuild Iran. All they

1007
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 5: need is for this Ebo Islamic regime to be shunted

1008
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 5: aside and for the transition plan to come into place.

1009
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 5: And the shot Son has said he does not want

1010
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 5: to take over and be a king. He wants a

1011
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 5: two year transition and he wants to put it to

1012
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 5: a publicite and have the people decide what kind of

1013
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 5: government they want, and America should support that.

1014
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: So a couple of points where I feel like we

1015
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: need some clarity or understanding. The first one is is

1016
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: a lot of this is contingent on the military buying

1017
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: in to it, which that seems very far fetched. So

1018
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: unless there is any military fighting force, then it's going

1019
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: to be very hard to have any sort of a

1020
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: peaceful transition whatsoever. So what is the path for whatever

1021
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: is next for them to be able to go up

1022
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: against the IGC because URGC is not going to go

1023
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: along with any of this.

1024
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 5: No, the iogc's top leadership is being decimated though, and

1025
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 5: I think the plan is basically to make sure that

1026
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 5: the IOGC is an effective, well led fighting force is destroyed.

1027
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 5: The people in the military in the act ish right.

1028
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 5: These guys are not nearly as ideological. Some of their

1029
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 5: top leaders have been killed as well, and the plan

1030
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 5: is to have them start to see that staying on

1031
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 5: the side of the Islamic Republic isn't in their long

1032
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 5: term interest and have some of them defect. What happened

1033
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy nine is the generals in the Air

1034
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 5: Force defected from the shot to Homeni side. That's what

1035
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 5: allowed him to take power. And we believe this is

1036
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 5: something that can and will end up happening. The IOGC

1037
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 5: is going to be destroyed as an effective military fighting force.

1038
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 5: I believe the United States and Israel have done a

1039
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 5: hell of a lot of damage to it and they're

1040
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 5: going to continue to do so. There is a Mossad

1041
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 5: far See based x account which is telling the people

1042
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 5: of Iran, identify your oppressors and your oppressors from the

1043
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 5: basiege and the IOGC, let us know who they are.

1044
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 5: We're going to take care of them, and they're doing that.

1045
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 5: There's videos of Iranian people saying, hey, this is where

1046
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 5: the IOGC people are. They're hiding under this bridge and

1047
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 5: you've got this Israeli drone which has got this beautiful

1048
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 5: camera that shows where they are, and they send them

1049
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 5: missile and they start killing these people. And that's what

1050
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 5: they're doing because they've got to get rid of every

1051
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 5: single evil Islamis supporting person that has a remote handle

1052
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 5: on power. And once that's done, the folks that are

1053
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 5: more patriotic than Islamist I believe, are going to say,

1054
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 5: we don't all want to be killed, we want to

1055
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 5: step forward. And they're going to say, yes, we are

1056
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 5: wanting to be a part of Iran's future, not part

1057
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 5: of its past.

1058
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: I've been talking about this for a few months now.

1059
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: Why because it's important and it's helping me. It's a

1060
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: handheld red light therapy device for pain and inflammation called

1061
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: the super Palm ten fifty. I use it right at home,

1062
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: and what I really like about is it's actually working

1063
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: on my back and my knee and no drugs, no invasion,

1064
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: and Wow, have I generally noticed a difference?

1065
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: Okay, here's how it works.

1066
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: Some power LED makes devices that deliver red and near

1067
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: infrared light energy directly into your cells reduces pain and inflammation.

1068
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: The science is called photo biomodulation or PBM, also known

1069
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: as red light therapy. You guys have heard about that.

1070
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: This isn't some trendy wellness fad though PBM has been

1071
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: researched around the world for decades. In fact, according to

1072
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: the PBM Foundation, over one hundred million patient treatments have

1073
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: been performed without any documented side effects. The engineering is

1074
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: impressive too. Some power led devices feature a patent pended

1075
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: cooling system that lets you hold it closer to your skin,

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Speaker 1: things get very interesting because the people who are leading

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Speaker 1: be their guiding principles or focused around the Islamization of

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00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: really the whole planet, and then includes wiping out America

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Speaker 1: in Israel if they have the means to do so.

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Speaker 1: And it seems like a very hard circle to square

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Speaker 1: here with the rest of the public who would like

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Speaker 1: to see I think Iron participate. It is a productive

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Speaker 1: member of the rest of the world community.

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Speaker 2: So to speak.

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Speaker 1: So this is where I ask again about who enforces this.

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Speaker 1: So let's say, whatever government you can dream up, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a Polavi led government, maybe something else. How does

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Speaker 1: it get enforced when you've got ideologically driven opposition in

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Speaker 1: the form of the iatolis.

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Speaker 5: Well, many of these people have already been killed. Okay,

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Speaker 5: so there's no one single person in charge of the

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Speaker 5: Islamic Republic right now. There's people who have various pockets

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Speaker 5: of influence, and they're the ones who are holding out.

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00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 5: So the United States and Israel have attacked effectively using

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Speaker 5: their intelligent services to get data on this the leadership

1111
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 5: of the Islamic Republic, and they're continuing to do so.

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Speaker 5: I believe it's just a matter of time before the

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Speaker 5: people one, two, three tiers lower than them in power

1114
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 5: are going to say enough of this. I don't want

1115
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 5: to be killed in my sleep. I want a different future,

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00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 5: and every single Islamist that has been in charge needs

1117
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 5: to be eliminated. Frankly, whoever's still at large needs to

1118
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 5: be taken out. And believe me, I believe this is

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Speaker 5: the goal of certainly the nation of Israel, and I

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Speaker 5: think even though Donald Trump seems to send some mixed

1121
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Speaker 5: messages from time to time, he really doesn't want to

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Speaker 5: see the Islamic Republic continue to stay in power because

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Speaker 5: he knows that once he's gone, they'll somehow find a

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Speaker 5: way that we constitute themselves and they're going to attack

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Speaker 5: America again. So Yeah, once these guys out, That's why

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Speaker 5: I'm very confident they're gonna be out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like that Trump definitely wants that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Trump as an idea of what

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Speaker 1: comes next, though. I spend a little time with them

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and I got to be

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00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: frank with you, I didn't seem like he took Polavi

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Speaker 1: that seriously as the successor to what is going to

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Speaker 1: come next. So maybe his opinions changed last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But that's just a real reality that

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Speaker 1: I think Trump has got to deal with, is that

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want to leave things so chaotic that we

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Speaker 1: undo the good that has been done by taking out

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Speaker 1: so many of these nuclear sites and so many of

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Speaker 1: these bad guys.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you, but if you have the year

1141
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Speaker 5: of President Trump, you should tell him to take Risel

1142
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: pat Levi very very seriously. He has the support of

1143
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 5: the Iranian people in a way nobody else does. And

1144
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 5: that's a fact. And if you go right now, you

1145
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 5: want to conduct polling in the diaspora, you're going to

1146
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 5: see that their support for him is in the neighborhood

1147
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Speaker 5: of eighty five percent and in Iran interesting, the support

1148
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 5: for the shock coming back, if anything, is as high,

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Speaker 5: if not even higher. There is no other figure that

1150
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 5: unifies the Iranian people. The Polevi name is magic in

1151
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Speaker 5: Iran and it captures the imagination of the Iranian people

1152
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 5: in a way nobody else can or will. The presidents

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01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 5: should take him very seriously. He also should understand that

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Speaker 5: Iran is not a rock. Iran is not Libya. Iran

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Speaker 5: is not a failed nation state that was a fake

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Speaker 5: country created by the British after the end of the

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Speaker 5: British mandate in Palestine back in the nineteen twenties. Iran

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Speaker 5: is the world's oldest continuous nation state. We have a

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Speaker 5: rich history, a rich culture, We have a unified vision

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Speaker 5: of who we are as a people, and we believe

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Speaker 5: we have a leader, and our leader is Crown Prince Rezopalaiti.

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Speaker 5: People in the West need to understand that there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of people close to President Trump who look at

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Speaker 5: Iran and go, we don't want another failed Iraq. And

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Speaker 5: I understand that. Believe me, that would be terrible for everybody.

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Speaker 5: But they need to understand, and Alex I want to

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Speaker 5: make this point very strongly to you Iran is not

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Speaker 5: a Roq, and that is unlikely to happen, very unlikely,

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Speaker 5: because the people of Iran are not citarians. They're going

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Speaker 5: to fight each other. They're going to come together because

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Speaker 5: they want to see the country move past the Islamia Republic.

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Speaker 1: Nikki, let's take this point on because this is really important.

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Speaker 1: We all know this to be true, but how would

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Speaker 1: you articulate it?

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Speaker 2: How is Iran not Iraq?

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Speaker 1: There's obviously very noteworthy differences, but they share some of

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Speaker 1: them that you think are most important.

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Speaker 5: Look, Iraq is not a real country, Okay, there is

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Speaker 5: no tradition of an Iraqi nation. Iraq was put together

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Speaker 5: in nineteen twenty two after the Ottoman Empire fell apart.

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Speaker 5: The British decided, we're going to create a whole bunch

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Speaker 5: of fake countries here. We're gonna draw these lines. And

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Speaker 5: then there's people that were put together that never really

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Speaker 5: had a history of being a nation, of working together,

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Speaker 5: of having a unified vision going forward. So that doomed

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Speaker 5: Iraq from the start. As soon as the strong man,

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Speaker 5: Saddam Musseane was pulled away from power, the people that

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Speaker 5: never had any sense of shared identity said Okay, well,

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Speaker 5: you know what, I'm just gonna take what's mine. That's

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Speaker 5: not the case inningon. Like I said, we're the world's

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Speaker 5: old continuous nation state. We've been around for nearly six

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Speaker 5: thousand years. Okay. Cyrus the Great created the Persian Empire

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Speaker 5: over twenty five hundred years ago. He's the man who

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Speaker 5: created the world's first declaration of human rights in the

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Speaker 5: Cyrus Cylinder that's up in the British Museum. Thomas Jefferson

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Speaker 5: derived inspiration from Cyrus Cylinder to write the Declaration of Independence.

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Speaker 2: Did you know this, Alex I didn't know.

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Speaker 5: You need to go look into this. Cyrus the Great

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Speaker 5: was the man who inspired Thomas Jefferson. In the Cyrus Cylinder,

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Speaker 5: he said, freedom of religion for all of the people

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Speaker 5: in this empire. He said that people from different backgrounds

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Speaker 5: and different ethnicities can live together. No one's going to

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Speaker 5: be treated better or worse. We have a history of

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Speaker 5: believing in human rights as a people. And I'm telling

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Speaker 5: you that history is very important to understand because it

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Speaker 5: gives Iranian people a sense of identity that it just

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Speaker 5: didn't exist in Iraq. And if you go and you

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Speaker 5: look at what happened in Iran back in January, and

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Speaker 5: you look at the videos that are being sent out

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Speaker 5: before they shut down the internet. Invariably, the Iranian people

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Speaker 5: are saying, we want the Mola's gone okay, and we

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Speaker 5: want Pahlavi back. And look on January eighth and ninth,

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Speaker 5: Vesal Plavi ask the Iranian people, this is before the

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Speaker 5: Internet shutdown, to pour into the streets to show that

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Speaker 5: they wanted the Islamic Republic to go it. Iran's a

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Speaker 5: nation of ninety million people, Alex, thirty five million Iranians

1217
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Speaker 5: poured into the streets of the cities. That's nearly forty

1218
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Speaker 5: percent of the population. Alex, tell me, other than Donald Trump,

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01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 5: which world leader could give an instruction like that and

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Speaker 5: get forty percent of the darn country to jump into

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Speaker 5: the streets and cheer his name, Because I'm telling you

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Speaker 5: you'd be hard pressed to find a single one. The

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Speaker 5: Iranian people understand their past, they understand their history, they

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Speaker 5: understand the glory of their culture. They want it back.

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Speaker 5: The Iranian people remember pa Lavi, remember how Iran was.

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Speaker 5: Even those that weren't born then they can see the

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Speaker 5: videos because of the Internet. God bless the Internet, and

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Speaker 5: they don't want to be part of an Islamist life anymore.

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Speaker 5: That's why, Alex. They went into the guns with nothing

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Speaker 5: but their bare bodies. Have you ever seen anything so

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Speaker 5: darn brave in your life, Alex as those young Iranians

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Speaker 5: that went into the guns with nothing in their hands

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Speaker 5: and got slaughtered by their tens of thousands demanding their rights.

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Speaker 5: Because I gotta tell you, Alex, as a human being,

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Speaker 5: as a man, I have never seen anybody, any group

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Speaker 5: of people, be that brave. It humbles the hell out

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Speaker 5: of me, and it makes me determined to help these

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Speaker 5: people win their freedom in any way possible. Because I'm

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Speaker 5: sitting here comfortable and alive and healthy and prospering in

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Speaker 5: the West. It's my people who are suffering back home

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Speaker 5: in Iran. They want their freedom, they want it now.

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Speaker 5: We're grateful to the United States for stepping up and

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Speaker 5: taking these Mullahs down. Keep it up, keep bombing them

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01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 5: until they got no way to resist, and then let

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Speaker 5: us do the rest. You don't need boots on the ground.

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Speaker 5: The Iranian people are going to jump into the streets

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Speaker 5: and we're going to take over. And at that point

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Speaker 5: pa Levu will return, and when he does, return, my friend.

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Speaker 5: I believe Iran will be America's greatest ally because Iran

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Speaker 5: and the Iranian people are people who understand loyalty and

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Speaker 5: they understand gratitude. And we're very grateful to Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: in the United States and to Israel for having freed us.

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Speaker 5: And we want to say this, Israel is a nation

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Speaker 5: that understands paying its debts. Twenty five hundred years ago,

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Speaker 5: the people of Israel were being held as slaves by

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Speaker 5: the Babylonian Cyrus the Great went and overthrew the Babylonian

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Speaker 5: Empire and freed the Israeli people and allowed them, not

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Speaker 5: just allowed them, but escorted them back to their homeland

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Speaker 5: in Israel and help them rebuild the temple. That is

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Speaker 5: something that is biblical, it's fact. And today the Israeli

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Speaker 5: people are doing this the same for the Iranian people,

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Speaker 5: and we're very grateful for it.

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Speaker 1: Nikki Blou, you've got the Thought Leader Revolution podcast. You've

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Speaker 1: also got something called Eat Circle Academy, which is a

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Speaker 1: coaching apparatus that you got going.

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Speaker 2: So I know you moved to Canada. Are you still there?

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Speaker 5: I am. I live in Toronto.

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Speaker 2: So what's Toronto like in the Age of Trump right now.

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Speaker 5: I got to tell you, I love my city, but

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you know we're living under a quasi fascist

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Speaker 5: government right now. Justin Trudeau has taken away a lot

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Speaker 5: of our rights, and his successor, Mark Carney just passed

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01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 5: a bill called C nine where he's trying to make

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Speaker 5: it basically a crime to express yourself online with wrong things.

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Speaker 5: So if they don't like your political opinions, just like

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Speaker 5: in the UK, they're going to be able to arrest Canadians.

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Speaker 5: So I'm hopeful that in Canada we're going to be

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Speaker 5: able to elect a conservative government and we're gonna be

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Speaker 5: able to reverse some of these things. But it's not

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Speaker 5: looking good for the people of Canada at the moment,

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Speaker 5: my friend, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a disappointing.

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Speaker 1: It feels like almost every other nation seemed to understand

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Speaker 1: and that Trump was on to certain things, and Canada's

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Speaker 1: really staked out an identity of just defying Trump and

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Speaker 1: whenever they can, which is just not I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's advisable. I don't think it goes well when you

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Speaker 1: do that. But that's what they've done, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of a shame. Tell me about the East Circle Academy.

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Speaker 5: So EAS Circle Academy is a company that I started

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Speaker 5: several years ago, and our vision really was to be

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Speaker 5: a company that stood for freedom. Because of my background

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Speaker 5: being someone from Iran, I believe in helping people be

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Speaker 5: as free as they can possibly be. And one of

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Speaker 5: the main things of freedom is having some financial freedom.

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Speaker 5: And there's a lot of people that are in business

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Speaker 5: that are good people that are doing what they do,

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Speaker 5: but they're just not good at the game of business.

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Speaker 5: And what we do is we help them become better

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Speaker 5: business people so they can actually succeed and make the

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Speaker 5: money to create financial freedom for themselves. And we don't

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Speaker 5: work with woke people. I got to say this off

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Speaker 5: the top of our head. We only work with conservatives

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Speaker 5: and sane people. So if you're a wokee person, don't

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Speaker 5: come to EA Circle Academy. But if you're a person

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Speaker 5: who believes in freedom, and if you're a person who

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Speaker 5: believes in the innciples of live and let live and

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Speaker 5: letting everybody else be free, and you own a business

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Speaker 5: and you want to grow it, please come see us.

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Speaker 1: That's so right on, and again, not helping the woke

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Speaker 1: succeed is great, but also just the fact there are

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Speaker 1: so many people that I know in my personal life

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Speaker 1: and in the audience who are really good people and

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Speaker 1: create quality products and are just really bad at marketing

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Speaker 1: and selling and getting it out there and optimizing their

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Speaker 1: return on their talents.

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Speaker 2: And so that's good.

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Speaker 1: So I'm glad people like you are out there to

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Speaker 1: help Nikki. You're a very inspiring guy, and I'm we're

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Speaker 1: all rooting hard for Iran in the audience. And it's

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Speaker 1: really nice to catch up with you. And if you

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Speaker 1: want to hear more from Nicki the Thought Leader Revolution

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Speaker 1: Podcast wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Dicky, appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Alex, thank you for having me. It's sanon and I

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Speaker 5: got to say I love the work that you're doing.

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Speaker 5: A Breitbart is my go to source for news and

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Speaker 5: really it's a fantastic, fantastic organization.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for what you do to make it relevant perfect.

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Speaker 1: That really could be nice review to say that that's

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Speaker 1: what we're here for, is to try to reach people

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Speaker 1: like you, and you spreading.

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Speaker 2: Our message out there does a lot for us as well.

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Speaker 2: So thanks a lot to me.

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Speaker 5: God bless your h