1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So now let me go to back to CBS 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Barry Weiss and CBS and basically Barry Weiss explains her 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: decision to pull the sixty minutes illegal alien story. And again, 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, just to reiterate some of the things that 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: I said in the earlier podcast, Why does why does? 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Why does good journalism count? Even at CBS. I believe 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: that good journalism counts all across the board. I don't 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: care if you have different views. I don't care if 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: you have a different worldview. I don't care. I'm on 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: the left, you're on the right. Okay, that's fine. If 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: you're going to be an opinion commentator, make sure you 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: say that you're an opinion commentator, but don't call yourself 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: a journalist if you're not a journalist. And this is 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: the problem with these outlets like MSNBC, CBS, on et cetera. 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: You can see like a Brett Bear on Fox. You 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: can see some of the people now at News Nation, Newsmax, 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: on et cetera. Some of them will just kind of 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: report down the line. Others will say this is where 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm coming from. Typically on the right, that's finance. Well, 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. If people on the left do it. 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: But what I can stand remember the Don Lemones, the 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: Cuomos of the world will try to pretend is if 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: they were just journalists right seeking the truth. Now Cuomo 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: is doing a much better show, Chris Cuomo, I believe, 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: or I forget. I always forget which brothers which, But 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: he's doing a much better show on News Nation now. Ironically, 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: it's like he's starting to come to his senses quite frankly. 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is good news matters. You want balance. 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: You want balance in the newsroom. I believe that iron 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: sharpens iron, but you want because nobody's unbiased. Guys just 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: don't believe that nonsense. Nobody's unbiased. But these people when 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,279 Speaker 1: they get on and get in front of the camera, 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: they have a duty to make sure that they are 34 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,919 Speaker 1: doing objective reporting, objective truth, if you will, objective journalism, 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: and that just isn't the case. If you do that, 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: that brings about civic civics and civility. Civility meaning, as 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: I explained in an earlier podcast based listen, the more 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: the more that news rooms, whether it's the producers and 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: the people in front of the camera, and remember the 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: people behind the camera and in front of the camera 41 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: oftentimes it's a different thing. A lot of times people 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: may not may not know this, but unless you're dealing 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: with a you know, a superstar, that's just especially if 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: it's a radio guy and they do TV, you know, 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: they're going to do a lot of their own research. 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: But some people in front of the cameras don't. They lie. 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: They rely on producers to kind of do the work 48 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: for them, read the teleprompters, uh, so on and so on, 49 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: et cetera. So that's something something you need to know. 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: But the more that people are informed, actually, I believe, 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: the better journalists they are, especially when it comes to civics, 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to American civics, and then when they 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: are that brings about a certain stability within the culture 54 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: because everybody understands the everybody understands or has a basic 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: understanding of our constitution, of our way of life inside 56 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: of the United States, instead of all this divisiveness, Oh 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: it's Trump. No, let's go back to civics. Let's go 58 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: back to the Constitution. Let's just go back to reporting 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: the news. Let's report the story. Let people make up 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: their own minds. Also, it raises the bar of intellectualism 61 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: in society. When you get biased news reporting like they 62 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: had at CBS, and this is exactly what Barry Weiss 63 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: is trying to stop, it just dumbs down your viewership. 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: It makes people angry and mad and just hateful right 65 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: towards the other side, towards their neighbor and instead of 66 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: just taking in information and saying, Okay, I see where 67 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: they're coming from, you know, or I see where this 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: person is coming from. I see where that person is 69 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: coming from. I may disagree. Here are the reasons why 70 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: I disagree, but I'm still cool with that person. So 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: when you have good journalism, it raises the bar of 72 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: intellectualism amongst the viewers, and that leads to more national cohesion. 73 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: I really do believe that. That's how important I believe 74 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: reporting the news is. Listen, we have the free speech, 75 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: we have the First Amendment inside of the United States. 76 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: I believe newsrooms should use it responsibly. That's what Barry 77 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: Weiss wants to do. I give her credit. Now, she's 78 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: a liberal. I mean these It tells you the pushback 79 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: that Barry Weiss is getting from CBS, lets you know 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: that they are leftists. They're not liberals. They're not Democrats, 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: they're leftists, or they have Trump derangement syndrome. They really 82 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: don't care about reporting the news, reporting the facts. So 83 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: here's the story from Red State. The left isn't going 84 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: to like this. Barry Weiss explains her decision, or explains 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: decision to pull sixty minutes a legal alien story. So 86 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: here's the summary. All right. So Barry Weiss, obviously the 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: editor in chief, the new editor in chief of CBS News, 88 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: pulled a sixty minute story about illegal aliens last week, 89 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: and basically, the people on the left went nuts. And 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking about not just the people out there in 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: the ether. I'm not just talking about democrats. I'm talking 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: about staff. They went absolutely berserk. So if you don't recall, 93 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: the piece was supposed to be about the treatment of 94 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: illegal aliens in Seacott, the Seacott prison in El Salvador. 95 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: All right, so sixty minutes, corresponded Sharon ALFONSI, I don't 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: know do we have let me search this. I don't 97 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: even know if we have the video. I think we 98 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: may have the video. Let me just search my sheet. 99 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't get that together. Okay, apparently we don't 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: have the video, all right, So anyway, but this is 101 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: the same lady that tried to blame or set up 102 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: Rhonda Santis during during the COVID Democrat COVID lockdown area era. 103 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: Excuse me, tried to say he was in bed with 104 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: the grocery chain publics in the southeast and you know, 105 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: because they had contributed I guess through a pack to 106 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: through his campaign somehow someway, which they had done to 107 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: many many, many politicians. No, it's and so he was 108 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: giving them a kickbackers. It was just some and it 109 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 1: was totally false. I mean, it was totally proven wrong. 110 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: And she didn't have to come back and she didn't 111 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: have to apologize. There was no accountability whatsoever. You just 112 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: go out make the allegation with no research, no facts, 113 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: not understanding how how people contribute to some packs and 114 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: how many politicians were getting pack money even from publics. 115 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: It was insane. But this is what she does. This 116 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: lady lies, She gets caught, no accountability whatsoever. She isn't 117 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: trying to be an honest journalism. She's trying to take 118 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: the what she perceived as threats down threats being Rondo 119 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: Santis at the time, considering that considering at the time 120 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: that he might run for president, or knowing at the 121 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 1: time that he might run for president or destroy Trump 122 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: at any cost. This is what Barry Weiss is trying 123 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: to stop. She's like, no, let's just skip the viewers 124 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: the news. You can even give it the news from 125 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: the left and the right. Let's give them the news. 126 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: Let's give them both sides. Let's let them decide that's 127 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: a good thing. That is a good thing, all right. 128 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: So again, this piece was supposed to talk about the 129 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: treatment of illegal aliens in Seacott. Just think about this. 130 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: You guys know about the prison in Seacott. You guys 131 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: remember they bend the prisoners down and then Trump had 132 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: the Abrego Garcia guy flown there. The left wing nuts 133 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: are still going nuts over that. But these guys were 134 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: in I mean this guy. But Kaylee has gotten the 135 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: murders down, the rapes down, the violence in general down 136 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: because he's literally put the thugs, the gangsters, the criminals 137 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: behind bars. And so sixty Minutes wanted to air piece, 138 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: and in fact, as a matter of fact, they did. 139 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: You can find it online. It's aired in Canada, where 140 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: basically they were sympathetic to the criminals, and why do 141 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: you think the criminals are in Seacott in the first place. 142 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: They're talking about the abuse that happens in Seacott. First off, 143 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: we don't know if it's true or not. Maybe it is, 144 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: maybe it isn't. But it's sad to me that these 145 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: people would be talking about the prince are sympathizing with 146 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: the prison rather than they're victims. I mean, it's just insane. 147 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: So here's a quote from Barry Weis. She said, my 148 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: job is to make sure that all stories we publish 149 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: are the best they can be. Holding stories that aren't 150 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: ready for whatever reason they lacks that they lack sufficient context, say, 151 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: contacts say, or that they are missing critical voices. She 152 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: says happens every day in every newsroom. I look forward 153 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: to airing this important piece when it's ready. So she 154 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 1: intended to air the piece regardless, and she also provided 155 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: the staff with even more contacts, saying she held the 156 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: segment because she said, we simply need to do more 157 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: quote unquote, these are her words. She also said the 158 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: only newsroom she wants to run is one where editors 159 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: can have contentious disagreements quote unquote, while assuming quote the 160 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: best intent. So you can have contentious disagreements, you can 161 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: disagree with your colleague, but you guys have the best intent. 162 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: You want to get to the bottom of the story. 163 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: That's journalism. You want to be hungry, you want to 164 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: get both sides at the facts. You want to separate 165 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: the chat. That's what you want to do. And that 166 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: was an implicit criticism, obviously of sixty Minutes and the 167 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: correspondent Sharon Alfonsie, who, in my opinion, Barry White should 168 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: let go. Barry Weis went on to say, okay, this 169 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: I already read that the only newsroom she's interested in 170 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: running is one where there can be contentious disagreements. That's good. 171 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: She didn't like that they hadn't gotten a comment from 172 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: the Trump administration, and apparently Alfonsie said they had reached 173 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: out and had in her back. Maybe that's true, maybe 174 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: it's not. I'm not sure about that. The Times also 175 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: reported that Wis's first reviewed the segment and then requested 176 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: numerous changes over the following days, including asking producers to 177 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: seek a fresh interview with the White House Deputy Chief 178 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: of Staff Stephen Miller. I mean, and also she was 179 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: concerned about the language that sixty minutes was using she 180 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: was calling my she was calling criminal illegal aliens that 181 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: Sharon Alfonsi was migrants. They're not Mike, they're criminal illegal aliens. 182 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: So just by saying that it's obvious that the staffers 183 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: are against the Trump administration, it's obvious that they're for 184 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: open borders. And what Barry Weiss is trying to say 185 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: is just report the news, report the facts, forget the spin. 186 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: Stop changing language for narrative's sake. That isn't news. That 187 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: isn't news. And again they were using migrants, they were 188 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: using undocumented to undocumented as another term. Why said that 189 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: there had already been reporting on Seacott by the New 190 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: York Times, and it was critical to do more to 191 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: get the principles on the record, all right, So she 192 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: wanted to go above and beyond. She said, to me, 193 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: our viewers come first, not a listing schedule or anything else. 194 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: That is my north star, and I hope it's the 195 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: north star of every person in this newsroom. I don't 196 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: think it is yet, but I'm praying and hoping that 197 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: Barry Weiss succeeds at CBS, and I pray that she 198 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: OUs this one chick out Fonsie. It needs to happen