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Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Epicenter weekend edition with New York

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Speaker 1: Times bestselling author in Middy Saxburg Joel Rosenberg. This is

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Speaker 1: a radio program of the Joshua Fund, a ministry founded

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Speaker 1: by Joel and his wife Lynn that's dedicated to blessing

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Speaker 1: Israel and her neighbors in the name of Jesus. This

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Speaker 1: is a program where we don't just talk about faith

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Speaker 1: in current events. We dive right into the spiritual pulse

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Speaker 1: in the Middle East and the God who is moving

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Speaker 1: so powerfully in it. Every week we unpack the headlines,

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Speaker 1: the prophecies, and the hope of Christ that's rising in

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Speaker 1: our regions, so often misunderstood because what happens in the

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Speaker 1: Epicenter doesn't stay there, and it's after shocks ripple across

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Speaker 1: the world. Today, we're featuring a timely and insightful conversation

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Speaker 1: from Jerusalem in which Joel and Lynn Rosenberg examine the

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Speaker 1: newly announced Framework Agreement between the United States and on

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Speaker 1: why are so many Israelis feeling shocked, abandoned and deeply concerned.

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Speaker 1: What does the proposed agreement actually contain and what critical

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Speaker 1: issues does it leave unresolved? How should followers of Jesus

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Speaker 1: respond when trusted alliances seem uncertain, and where should believers

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Speaker 1: ultimately place their confidence during moments of geopolitical upheaval. Our

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Speaker 1: hope has never rested in political leaders, but in the

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Speaker 1: Lord who rules over the nations and works all things

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Speaker 1: according to his sovereign purposes. Let's join Joel and Lynn

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Speaker 1: Rosenberg in Jerusalem.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to inside the Epicenter. We're so glad God to

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Speaker 2: be with you. We're going to walk you through what's

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Speaker 2: the biggest topic of our season here and one that

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Speaker 2: we didn't want to get into until we had read

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Speaker 2: the deal and had a little bit more time to

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Speaker 2: absorb what it means. Talk to some experts and talk

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Speaker 2: to a range of Americans, Brits we were in the UK,

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Speaker 2: and Israelis as well. But I want to explain why

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Speaker 2: this deal feels discouraging to us and to many Israelis,

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Speaker 2: but also where in Christ we have a biblical lens

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Speaker 2: to look at this, not just geopolitical, not just economic

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Speaker 2: or military, but how should we look at this from

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Speaker 2: a perspective of what might God be doing? And I

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Speaker 2: will say right up front, I want to be clear

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Speaker 2: about this that while I'm shocked. I was horrified when

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Speaker 2: I first read this deal for what's not in it,

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Speaker 2: but also what is in it. But I also want

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Speaker 2: to say that I see God's hand of mercy. And

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Speaker 2: I will also say that I don't want to be

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Speaker 2: a pessimist, meaning in the sense that I don't believe

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Speaker 2: that it could be fixed. This is a memorandum of understanding.

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Speaker 2: It's a framework for a deal. And when you look

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Speaker 2: at the things that are missing that we were going

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Speaker 2: to talk about, like shouldn't this be in it? Shouldn't

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean it can't be in it. It's not in

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Speaker 2: it now, and we'll talk about why why not. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's really what's causing a lot of people heartburn over this.

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Speaker 2: And President Trump has done a lot right. No other

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Speaker 2: president in American history has taken on the Iranian regime

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Speaker 2: Literally decapitated, with with Israel's help, all the top leadership,

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Speaker 3: And much of its ballistic missile program. This is this

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Speaker 2: This is big, and we shouldn't say yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but there are important questions. Right How this war ends

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Speaker 2: the gains that have been made and that Israel and

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Speaker 2: much better security position at this moment. Now, the question

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Speaker 2: And I think that's really the heart of the question

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Speaker 4: Yes, I appreciate that. You know, it's before we moved

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Speaker 4: I think Israel is a difficult place to live, is

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Speaker 4: We have thrown our lot in with you. You know,

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Speaker 4: We're about to celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth birthday

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Speaker 4: feel and increasingly so in the last few weeks, just alone,

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, I'm less of an optimist than Joe

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Speaker 4: Joel is the He's I'm sure it's going to work

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Speaker 4: But today and tomorrow and next week, I'm not quite

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Speaker 3: Sure, well, let's start with how ISRAELI see it.

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Speaker 2: Sixty seven percent see it as a bad deal for

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Speaker 4: I mean, think about even when we were driving to

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Speaker 2: It is a few others President Trump's handling of the

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Speaker 4: It's been like a humiliating language. It's been the It's

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Speaker 2: That's why Israelis feel so shocked and abandoned and betrayed,

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Speaker 3: We're the ones that are the obstacles to peace.

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Speaker 2: That's how Israeli's feel now we need to get into

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Inside the Epicenter. I'm Joel Rosenberg, co

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Speaker 3: What do you want to ask about?

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Speaker 4: And then also you also know that Iran. Any money

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Speaker 2: But it's also just we have to remember God is

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Speaker 4: Yes, well that's the thing. You know, we need to

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of life is just needing to

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Lenne.

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Speaker 1: dot com slash radio. Thanks for joining us on Inside

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Speaker 1: the Epicenter weekend edition with Joel Rosenberg on behalf of

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Speaker 1: the entire Joshua Fund team. We invite you to join

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