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Speaker 1: to the Big Weekend Pod. I'm Hugh hewittt. It was
Speaker 1: a quiet week in the war, if you call all
Speaker 1: those ceasefire violations by hesbillah lobbing missiles into Israel and
Speaker 1: by Iranian proxies in Iraq attacking Kuwait quiet, but full
Speaker 1: scale war has not yet broken out. Again. Looks like
Speaker 1: we're sending Special Envoy Witcoff and Kushner back to Pakistan.
Speaker 1: That's not been confirmed yet. At the time that I
Speaker 1: am laying this down, I don't believe this is going
Speaker 1: to end up in anything other than the return to
Speaker 1: combat in a pretty big way. Because Vahiti, who's the
Speaker 1: new czar of Iran, is he'd rather be martyr than rich.
Speaker 1: They have a new hunter. The head of the hunter
Speaker 1: is Bahiti he's an old school IRGC martyr guy and
Speaker 1: fought in the Big War eighty to eighty eight against
Speaker 1: Iraq in the Iraq Iran War, So I expect he's
Speaker 1: going to take a lot of persuading. I personally believe,
Speaker 1: as you'll hear me talk about with Ben Nominich, maybe
Speaker 1: Matt Continetti that the United States ought to hand them
Speaker 1: a target list, non exclusive target list just says when
Speaker 1: day one begins, we'll hit this oil target, and then
Speaker 1: day two, day whatever day, and then the final day
Speaker 1: if you haven't yielded the highly enriched uranium, taking the
Speaker 1: vow never to go after nukes again and put constraints
Speaker 1: on your missiles and eased up on your people, return
Speaker 1: the Internet, then we will take out carg Island. He
Speaker 1: could take two things to make a nuclear weapon. Time
Speaker 1: and money. They think they've got all the time in
Speaker 1: the world and all the oil. Well, we're not going
Speaker 1: to leave them with the oil if we don't have
Speaker 1: a deal on the nukes, because President Trump is not
Speaker 1: going to do that. So I'm hoping he pursues that.
Speaker 1: You'll hear me talk about that possibility with both Eli
Speaker 1: Lake and Matt Contnity and of course, Ben Damage. There's
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Speaker 1: Envoy Witkov and Jared Kushner are going back to Islamabad.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, given the presser we have depending
Speaker 1: on this morning, let's start their secretary head seth cut
Speaker 1: number six on the blockade, glowing global, going global.
Speaker 2: President Trump said it again yesterday.
Speaker 3: We have all the time in the world, and we're
Speaker 3: not anxious for a deal.
Speaker 2: And I hear him say it every day in.
Speaker 4: Private as well.
Speaker 3: Naran knows that they still have an open window choose wisely,
Speaker 3: as we said previously, choose wisely at the negotiating table.
Speaker 3: All they have to do is abandon a nuclear weapon
Speaker 3: in meaningful and verifiable ways. Or instead they can watch
Speaker 3: their regimes fragile economic state collapse under the unrelenting pressure
Speaker 3: of American power, a blockade as long as it takes,
Speaker 3: whatever President Trump decides. Because the bottom line line remains
Speaker 3: the bottom line.
Speaker 2: Iran will never get a nuclear bomb.
Speaker 3: The choice is Theirs, but with this blockade, the clock
Speaker 3: is not on their side. Moreover, President Trump has authorized
Speaker 3: the United States Navy to destroy any Iranian fast boats
Speaker 3: that attempt to put mines in the water or disrupt
Speaker 3: passage through the Strait of Hormuz, to shoot and kill.
Speaker 2: Our commanders have clear rules of engagement.
Speaker 3: If Iran is putting mines in the water or otherwise
Speaker 3: threatening American commercial shipping or American forces, we will shoot
Speaker 3: to destroy, no hesitation, just like the drug boats in
Speaker 3: the Caribbean.
Speaker 1: Now, I think that even the Iranians have got to
Speaker 1: understand we know how to blow up the speedboats and
Speaker 1: we'll see who gets to drive and people who want
Speaker 1: to be martyrs. Secretary Hegseth had this to say about
Speaker 1: Iran cutt number three.
Speaker 3: The IRGC specifically has been reduced to a gang.
Speaker 4: Of pirates with a flag. They cloak their.
Speaker 3: Aggression in slogans, but the world now sees them for
Speaker 3: what they are, criminals on the high seas. They don't
Speaker 3: control anything. They're acting like pirates, acting like terrorists. They're
Speaker 3: the ones who lay in discriminate minds, who shoot at
Speaker 3: random ships, who killed forty five thousand of their own people,
Speaker 3: innocent protesters in the course of weeks, their own people.
Speaker 4: They are the bad actors, the vessels.
Speaker 1: With Matt Cotton to Eli Lake Ben Dominich. But I
Speaker 1: do want to play Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
Speaker 1: Staff Dan Caine here he is on the blockade cutt
Speaker 1: number seven.
Speaker 5: First.
Speaker 6: As I mentioned, US Central Command continues to maintain a
Speaker 6: strict blockade on all the ports. We're enforcing the blockade
Speaker 6: across the board against any ship of any nationality that
Speaker 6: is transiting to or from an Iranian port or territory.
Speaker 6: We're closely tracking vessels of interest headed towards Iran and
Speaker 6: those moving away from Iran that were outside the blockade
Speaker 6: area when this blockade was ordered, and as everyone saw
Speaker 6: this past weekend, were prepared and postured to intercept them.
Speaker 6: As of this morning, thirty four ships have met the
Speaker 6: US blockade and made the wise choice to turn around.
Speaker 5: One ship did not, and that ship was the.
Speaker 6: Motor vessel Tusca. Over several hours this past Sunday, April nineteenth,
Speaker 6: the US conducted maritime interdiction operations against the Tusca, whose
Speaker 6: crew attempted to breach the blockade line. The Tusca is
Speaker 6: a large container ship about nine hundred and sixty five
Speaker 6: feet long, or about the same size as the United
Speaker 6: States Navy.
Speaker 5: Aircraft carrier, and over one hundred feet wide.
Speaker 6: The operation began about four am Eastern Standard time when
Speaker 6: the United States Navy destroyer approached her and the crew and.
Speaker 5: The vessel ignored warnings.
Speaker 6: And I've described how the destroyer forces operating in the
Speaker 6: area prior. Upon intercept and coming within visual range, American
Speaker 6: forces began to issue issue several clear and unambiguous warnings
Speaker 6: and informed the vessel and their crew that they were
Speaker 6: in a violation of the US blockade and directed the
Speaker 6: ship to turn around. Over a six hour period, the
Speaker 6: vessel and her crew repeatedly ignored US warnings, and then
Speaker 6: the US Navy destroyer executed a series of pre planned,
Speaker 6: carefully calibrated escalation options, including firing five warning shots. The
Speaker 6: vessel and her crew continued to ignore warnings, and after
Speaker 6: exhausting all other measures, Sencom authorized disabling fire against the Tusca.
Speaker 6: US sailors warned the crew of the Tusca to abandon
Speaker 6: the engine room, and at approximately nine am Eastern time,
Speaker 6: the destroyer disabled the Tuska's engine by firing nine inert
Speaker 6: rounds from the destroyer's Mark forty five inch guns precisely
Speaker 6: into the engine room and engine space on board the Tusca.
Speaker 6: Not Surprisingly, the vessel and reported issues with their engine,
Speaker 6: went dead in the water and began to comply with
Speaker 6: US directions and orders. At four pm Eastern Standard time,
Speaker 6: Sentcom ordered United States Marines to seize the ship via helicopters.
Speaker 6: US Marines maneuvered quickly to the disabled ship, boarded her
Speaker 6: from fast ropes via helicopter infiltration methods, and.
Speaker 5: Took custody of the ship.
Speaker 6: The ship and her crew remained safe in US custody today.
Speaker 1: They also have been grabbing tankers. The blockade didn't go
Speaker 1: into effect until about four weeks of the war, and
Speaker 1: a bunch of tankers had left, and they're on the
Speaker 1: high seas full of sanctioned oil, basically pirated ships. Here's
Speaker 1: what the chairman said about the takeover of one of
Speaker 1: the tankers earlier this week, cutting number eleven.
Speaker 6: On Monday, April twentieth, US INDO pay Com forces, in
Speaker 6: support of a Department of Justice requests, interdicted the motor
Speaker 6: tanker Tiffany which was transporting sanctioned Iranian oil.
Speaker 5: The Tiffany is a very large crewed.
Speaker 6: Tanker VLCC for short, and is also about the size
Speaker 6: of a US aircraft carrier and capable of transporting approximately
Speaker 6: two million barrels of oil. At approximately eleven thirty PM
Speaker 6: Eastern time, US military forces and law enforcement forces also
Speaker 6: went to the ship via rotary winging platforms, fast roped
Speaker 6: onto her deck and secured her. After the ship was secured,
Speaker 6: a US Navy control team embarked aboard the Tiffani Tiffany
Speaker 6: or Tiffani and assumed control of the ship at four
Speaker 6: am Eastern Time on April twenty first. A Navy control
Speaker 6: team is comprised of sailors led by a boarding officer
Speaker 6: that assumes control of a sea ship in order to
Speaker 6: secure the crew, the cargo, and the vessel. And disposition
Speaker 6: of that first vessel is still pending. The next interdiction
Speaker 6: occurred on Wednesday this past Wednesday, twenty two April, when
Speaker 6: Indo Paycom conducted yet another interdiction, again at the request
Speaker 6: of the US Department of Justice, this time the stateless
Speaker 6: motor tanker Majestic X, also known as the Ponix, also
Speaker 6: in the Indian Ocean. This is again a VLCC or
Speaker 6: very large crewed tanker. At approximately eleven PM Eastern Standard time,
Speaker 6: US Forces began the interdiction, again, usering rotary wing assets
Speaker 6: to get to the ship, got on board and.
Speaker 5: Secure the bridge.
Speaker 6: Both ships, the Tefani, the Majestic X, and their crews
Speaker 6: remain in US custody and we will continue to conduct
Speaker 6: similar maritime interdiction actions and activities in the Pacific and
Speaker 6: Indian Oceans against Iranian ships and vessels of the Dark Fleet.
Speaker 1: So I don't think you ought to go there. If
Speaker 1: you're in the Dark Fleet, come right back to the
Speaker 1: US show. Welcome back to America. Hewett Eli Lake is
Speaker 1: with the Free Press. He's the host of the Breaking
Speaker 1: History podcast, and he, like me, are both fixated on Iran.
Speaker 1: Eli the Kellen Levitt announced today that Special Envoys Witcoff
Speaker 1: and Kushner are going back to Islamabad. I feel bad
Speaker 1: for those guys. I don't think anything good's going to
Speaker 1: come out of that. I don't think Mehiti is going
Speaker 1: to throw in his cards. He's a hardcore old guard
Speaker 1: fought in the Big War eighty to eighty eight. Do
Speaker 1: you think there's any progress to be made here.
Speaker 7: I do think that the regime is facing economic collapse
Speaker 7: and the blockade of the blockade is probably going to
Speaker 7: have an effect. So I think that that right there,
Speaker 7: But I don't think I don't think they're feeling that
Speaker 7: pressure yet. And I think you're correct that Vahiti represents
Speaker 7: somebody who you know, he was part of the I
Speaker 7: mean Bahdi back in the day was during that Iron
Speaker 7: Iraq war. He was part of the faction that didn't
Speaker 7: want to take the deal with Saddam Hussein. When Hamani
Speaker 7: said it was like the drinking the chalice of poison.
Speaker 7: He represented the people who want to continue fighting that war,
Speaker 7: which was paid a horrible toll on the Iranian So
Speaker 7: I would not expect anything like that to come from him.
Speaker 7: But on the other hand, the way it was described
Speaker 7: to me by people, in terms of understanding how the
Speaker 7: leadership works, Bahdi is not does not have the loyalty
Speaker 7: or it does not necessarily have the command, or he
Speaker 7: doesn't the command, but it doesn't the loyalty of the
Speaker 7: entire Revolutionary Guard Corps. He is rather the strongest chieftain
Speaker 7: in that group. So there are other rivals to him,
Speaker 7: but right now that he is like sort of on
Speaker 7: this five person council, he's clearly the real power in
Speaker 7: Iran right now. I don't think you're going to see
Speaker 7: much yet, but that might change as the economic conditions worsen,
Speaker 7: as they understand the full extent of their military defeat.
Speaker 7: And even if nothing happens, I just think that the
Speaker 7: United States has plenty of military options to open the
Speaker 7: straight up her moves that and getting the remaining missiles
Speaker 7: and other things that were on the target list are
Speaker 7: military objectives. I think that's eminently doable. I think the
Speaker 7: United States remains in a really good position.
Speaker 1: So Eli, I talked to a senior official from Trump
Speaker 1: one today and not Trump too, not in now, and
Speaker 1: he told me a nuclear program requires three things. Expertise
Speaker 1: and the Runtians have at least the muscle memory of expertise.
Speaker 1: That they've lost a couple of dozen of their top scientists,
Speaker 1: the technology that you can buy on the open market.
Speaker 1: And number three, money and time, Money and time. We
Speaker 1: have sieged three of their tankers at siege at sea
Speaker 1: this month. I play General Okaine. That's two million barrels
Speaker 1: of oil a grab, and we've done it three times
Speaker 1: at sea. That forget the cargo ship, who knows what
Speaker 1: was in it, but we got the oil. They're going
Speaker 1: to run on oil. The Hewett option is this, Wick
Speaker 1: Coop and Kushner give them a list of the oil
Speaker 1: facilities in Iraq, you know, one through thirty, and say
Speaker 1: we're going to take out one of these each day,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna end with cart Island being in rubble.
Speaker 1: If you do not give us dialing, enriched uranium and
Speaker 1: inspection rights at Pickaxe Mountain and other places, because we're
Speaker 1: not going to leave you with any money. What do
Speaker 1: you think about that? Just lay it out, here's our
Speaker 1: target list. You can't stop us. They're all going to
Speaker 1: be rubble. You will have no oil.
Speaker 7: Well right now, I think if it's Fahiti calling the shots,
Speaker 7: they probably would not accept it because I think they're
Speaker 7: almost kind of living in I think Fahiti represents one
Speaker 7: of the true believers. But again, part of the strategy
Speaker 7: for something like that, which I think is actually pretty smart,
Speaker 7: is that are we sure that everybody around Bahiti wants
Speaker 7: to make that same decision exactly? And that's the key
Speaker 7: is that you know the fracturing in that respect is
Speaker 7: that is a good thing. I never understood the argument
Speaker 7: that was made by some of the critics of the
Speaker 7: war after the initial decapitation strikes isay, now you've got
Speaker 7: an even more hard line regime. They've always been hardliners.
Speaker 7: As you know, they killed they killed forty exactly right. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so the idea that you know, oh, we can't risk
Speaker 7: it because someone might the next person might be even worse.
Speaker 5: They're all in the category of horrible.
Speaker 7: So I mean, at this point, I am I'm, I'm
Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to the fracturing, and I think that
Speaker 7: there will be more of it, and at some point,
Speaker 7: you know, I think there's going to be a lot
Speaker 7: of different opportunities. And remember they still haven't turned the
Speaker 7: Internet back on. The Iranian people are going to, you know,
Speaker 7: enter into this at some point. I would love it
Speaker 7: if we were things that we were, we could start
Speaker 7: maybe doing to try to turn back on the Internet
Speaker 7: or provide alternatives. I think that that technology exists, and
Speaker 7: I don't exactly understand why that hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1: But in both you've got storchs in Israel and UAE.
Speaker 1: Why is the UAE not building a big pipeline from
Speaker 1: the UAE to Israel so that they don't have to
Speaker 1: ship anything. Why, yeah, there's not would be like.
Speaker 7: That's a great question. I don't have an answer. I
Speaker 7: should say, great question. I don't have an answer for
Speaker 7: that right now. But one that's one issue is I
Speaker 7: think that you know, if you build a pipeline, that's
Speaker 7: another target. And the Iranians have the drones and we
Speaker 7: maybe they don't have the drone defense, but the UAE
Speaker 7: has been in the fight. I can tell you that.
Speaker 7: And I can also say that I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 7: we'll see what happens with the Saudis. The Saudis are
Speaker 7: right now, you know, very connected to the Pakistanis who
Speaker 7: are hosting the negotiations, and they're their outreach to Turkey,
Speaker 7: which I think is really troubling right now. But I
Speaker 7: think the Amoradis, and I think at least parts of
Speaker 7: this part of the Saudi royal family at least uh,
Speaker 7: they're at a new strategic reality after this war, and
Speaker 7: there will be there will be no option for the
Speaker 7: Iranians to sort of rebuild that relationship until there's regime change.
Speaker 7: So that's another strategic loss for Iran in this conflict.
Speaker 1: I noticed what the Libyans up their oil production in
Speaker 1: one month by a million barrels a day. And so
Speaker 1: there are other places around the world to get oil.
Speaker 1: It's not as cheap. But we're not going to be
Speaker 1: at ninety dollars a barrel. We're going to get back
Speaker 1: to seventy five, which is more than sixty. But the
Speaker 1: world can absorb that. They can't absorb a nuclear Iran.
Speaker 1: And so when you get rid of the Trump distortion
Speaker 1: effect and the Net and Yahoo distortion effect, isn't this
Speaker 1: clearly a win for the world.
Speaker 8: I'm so glad you put it like that, Hugh.
Speaker 5: It's become so frustrating to me.
Speaker 7: Even if the Iranians manage for a period of time
Speaker 7: to hold on to the straight of Hormuz a that
Speaker 7: is we've talked about before, a depreciating asset, because there
Speaker 7: will people will find alternatives yep to the straight up
Speaker 7: woe moves and alternative sources. But the most important thing
Speaker 7: is weighed against demolishing the vast majority of Iran's nuclear program,
Speaker 7: its defense industry, the conventional ballistic missile shield that Rubio
Speaker 7: has talked about, Weighed against all of that, is it
Speaker 7: worth it? Yes, because we're the whole reason for this
Speaker 7: entire war has been to stop these fanatics from getting
Speaker 7: a nuclear weapon. And pretty I mean, in theory they
Speaker 7: could start again. But we just wiped away thirty years
Speaker 7: and half a trillion dollars worth of investment. And that
Speaker 7: is a military accomplishment, and I can take it, in
Speaker 7: my view absolutely a strategic accomplishment. And again someone can say, yeah,
Speaker 7: theoretically they're going to be more determined than ever to
Speaker 7: rebuild it, to which I say, then the United States
Speaker 7: and Israel will be determined to knock that out as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, theoretical we really wetting up. Yeah, if we had
Speaker 1: gone after Hitler in nineteen thirty seven or thirty eight
Speaker 1: when he took it Inland or Austria and the Aslish,
Speaker 1: or even when he took over the Roar, theoretically that
Speaker 1: might have led to a lot of heartburn, but he
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had the Third Reich. I really don't understand.
Speaker 1: It's the Trump distortion effect. Last word to you, Isn't
Speaker 1: that what it is? The reason we can't say this.
Speaker 7: I think some of it's that's Trump distortion effect. I
Speaker 7: think the other part of it is that we just
Speaker 7: have a generation of people of Western elites that are
Speaker 7: completely disconnected from the military. I did not serve, but
Speaker 7: when the Iraq War was going on, I went to
Speaker 7: a rock several times and served with Americans there. That
Speaker 7: was something that was a been valuable experience for me.
Speaker 7: But so many have no idea what it means to
Speaker 7: be in the military, what it means to quite a war.
Speaker 1: And amen to that, you know, I like, we're looking
Speaker 1: for the breaking history. I had a lot of driving
Speaker 1: to do this weekend. And whatever you write in the
Speaker 1: Free Press, thank you, Eli. I'll be right back and
Speaker 1: Mat Continent. He is next on the show Welcome Back America.
Speaker 1: I'm Hewitt. Matt Connetty is here for his Friday a
Speaker 1: week in review with me. Matt, of course free expressions
Speaker 1: columnist at the Wall Street Journal, head of Domestic Policy
Speaker 1: Studies at the American Enterprise Institute, and Virginia elections analysts.
Speaker 1: First question, Matt, given your Free Expressions column in the
Speaker 1: Journal today, who has freer elections Iran or Virginians after
Speaker 1: this map goes into effect.
Speaker 9: Well, I would say that the Republicans in Virginia won't
Speaker 9: be feeling very enfranchised after this map goes into effect,
Speaker 9: and certainly the population of Iran is not enfranchised. So
Speaker 9: it's a hard call, good call, hard call. Still I'll
Speaker 9: still vote with the America in the end, but for freedom.
Speaker 9: But nonetheless, this Virginia map is depressing to all those
Speaker 9: who believe in fair representation because that's what really happened.
Speaker 9: Virginia map that was six' Five Democrat, republican basically in
Speaker 9: line with the share of the vote that each party
Speaker 9: gets every four. Years trump went about forty six percent
Speaker 9: of the vote last election in twenty twenty, four and
Speaker 9: now you're going to attend to One Democrat republican, map
Speaker 9: which means that the forty six percent Of republicans in
Speaker 9: the state Of virginia will have one representative In. Congress
Speaker 9: that is the definition of. Unfairness, Now, matt.
Speaker 1: There are No republicans In. Massachusetts they're only thirty four
Speaker 1: percent vote For President trump in twenty twenty. Four i've
Speaker 1: always set redistricting done by the. Legislature it's a political mischief.
Speaker 1: Game just don't use, race And i'm okay with. It
Speaker 1: but The virginians passed a constitutional amendment to prohibit in the.
Speaker 1: State that's up to the states to, decide and, basically
Speaker 1: The virginia legislature just rolled over. IT i Heard Ken kochinelli,
Speaker 1: signing Former Attorney General virginia signing optimistic With Jake, tapper
Speaker 1: But i'm not because this is a very radical legislature In.
Speaker 1: RICHMOND i think they'll punish the State Supreme court if
Speaker 1: they reverse the. Referendum do you have much hope for
Speaker 1: the court.
Speaker 9: CASE i think the only glimmer of HOPE i can
Speaker 9: see in The Supreme court is that what the vote
Speaker 9: On tuesday showed you is that this is not open and.
Speaker 8: SHOT i, mean this.
Speaker 9: Was a close, vote about fifty one forty, eight maybe
Speaker 9: fifty two forty, eight three or four. Points the no
Speaker 9: vote that is rejecting this unfair map was higher Than
Speaker 9: republicans earned in last year's gubernatorial. Election it was higher
Speaker 9: Than President trump earned in twenty twenty four in the
Speaker 9: state Of. Virginia and there might be some justices on
Speaker 9: The State Supreme court who look at that and, say
Speaker 9: you know what if we do overturn the map because
Speaker 9: the process violated all of these constitutional and statutory. Requirements
Speaker 9: the blowback from the voters won't be that.
Speaker 8: Much but as you, say.
Speaker 9: They're going to be worried about the blowback from the
Speaker 9: Radical democrats who now are in charge In, virginia AND
Speaker 9: i think in the end they'll be more afraid of
Speaker 9: the politicians than Actual virginia voters when they decide whether
Speaker 9: or not to uphold this new and unfair.
Speaker 1: Map Now Ron DeSantis has called a special. Session there
Speaker 1: are twenty eight congressional, districts twenty or held By, republicans
Speaker 1: eight By. DEMOCRATS i think you could go to Chech
Speaker 1: ept And groc and, say draw me a map that
Speaker 1: gets me twenty Eight republicans and then have them both
Speaker 1: check each other's, work and that would hold up the constitutional.
Speaker 1: Muster if The Supreme court throws Out section two of
Speaker 1: The Voting Rights, act as is expected later this, month
Speaker 1: do you Want DeSantis to do that or do you
Speaker 1: want someone to call a halt to.
Speaker 9: This, WELL i think after The virginia, Vote Governor DeSantis can, say,
Speaker 9: look he's simply continuing a process and Redistricting florida if
Speaker 9: he can find a way to do it and the
Speaker 9: legislature approves of, it is the necessary response to what's
Speaker 9: happening In. Virginia, unfortunately we're down this path now where
Speaker 9: each party is retaliating against each. Other if it doesn't
Speaker 9: happen In, florida and if The Supreme court decision you
Speaker 9: mentioned doesn't go the way many expected, to which is
Speaker 9: to say that these majority minority districts are misreadings or
Speaker 9: violations of The Voting Rights, act well then, paradoxically The
Speaker 9: democrats could come out ahead slightly from this jerrymandering war
Speaker 9: we've been. Having SO i think that means That DeSantis
Speaker 9: should try to go to get some more seats out
Speaker 9: of The florida state. DELEGATION i will say this, though
Speaker 9: all of these, gerrymanders including the one In, virginia you,
Speaker 9: know they are very susceptible to waive elections that go
Speaker 9: in a different. Direction and what we're seeing right now
Speaker 9: on The republican states, is you, know the fact is
Speaker 9: The republicans have lost a lot of support From hispanic,
Speaker 9: voters and that means that even these gerrymanders could go
Speaker 9: and end up Electing. Democrats the same, thing by the,
Speaker 9: way could. Happen god, forbid if we have A democratic
Speaker 9: president twenty thirty and a midterm election goes against that
Speaker 9: president and elects a lot Of republicans well in these
Speaker 9: districts that The Virginia State democrats of jerry. Mandered that
Speaker 9: could blow up in their face as. Well so it's
Speaker 9: a very dangerous game with the jerry, manders and unfortunately
Speaker 9: we're in this race to the.
Speaker 1: Bottom and the long game is that the census is
Speaker 1: going to reward The south in twenty thirty two with
Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen new, CDs and that means The democrats
Speaker 1: are really. Screwt i'm kind of the about this because
Speaker 1: we're gonna lose that house.
Speaker 8: Anyway But i'm right back.
Speaker 1: With continety during the, break and he'll be back after
Speaker 1: the break of Talk. Iran we're going to talk presidential
Speaker 1: candidates on The republican side when we come back with big.
Speaker 1: NEWS i am back With Matt continetti in its hypothetic old.
Speaker 1: Time you have to actually listen to The Big Weekend pody
Speaker 1: hear this. Part, matt the vice president is in the
Speaker 1: position for The republican nomination in twenty twenty. Eight there's
Speaker 1: no denying. It, however if there was sort of a
Speaker 1: disqualification round where everybody not Named vance got in there
Speaker 1: and did the, debate and you could See Glenn, youngkin
Speaker 1: and you could See Doug, deucy and you could See Mike,
Speaker 1: pompeio and you might See Rhonda. Santos if they could
Speaker 1: come up with one person to run AGAINST, jd who
Speaker 1: would your money be ON jd or that one? Person
Speaker 1: And i'm Taking rubio off the.
Speaker 9: Board, Okay so now you've put me in the position
Speaker 9: of the liberal Theorist John. Rawls we have to have
Speaker 9: a veil of ignorance right on. This and if we
Speaker 9: create this new situation where it WAS jd against One
Speaker 9: republican challenger for the twenty twenty eight, NOMINATION i think
Speaker 9: that most the biggest threat TO, jd not Without rubio in,
Speaker 9: there it would probably be someone Like Glenn, youngkin someone
Speaker 9: with that political, Profile, southern someone who can also make
Speaker 9: a case to independence and, suburbanites and someone who can
Speaker 9: draw distinctions BETWEEN jd and JD's version of conservatism and
Speaker 9: kind of the earlier forms of conservatism and, also by the,
Speaker 9: way some trump conservative. Principles and As i'm talking right
Speaker 9: now and, SAY i, said someone Like Clayton Glenn.
Speaker 8: Younkin but actually.
Speaker 9: The clearest contrast in a lot of ways and would
Speaker 9: fit my geographic requirement as, well would Be Ted, cruz
Speaker 9: who of course came in second To President trump in twenty.
Speaker 9: Sixteen SO i might have to say cruise in the,
Speaker 9: end but.
Speaker 1: They would have to consolidate down to, one wouldn't. They
Speaker 1: they'd have to have to get in a, room and you,
Speaker 1: know Short straw wins or Short slaw.
Speaker 9: Loses and that, was as you well, know that was
Speaker 9: the problem in twenty. Sixteen that was the Reason Ted
Speaker 9: cruz couldn't cross the finish line in first place in
Speaker 9: twenty sixteen Against President trump was because he was still
Speaker 9: contending With rubio and With John kasick even towards the end.
Speaker 1: There SO i don't know if you ever Read Axel rodd's,
Speaker 1: Memoir David Axelrodg's, Believer did you true? Believer it might
Speaker 1: be a, believer, yeah as a fabulous. Believer and he
Speaker 1: believes in the theory of the personality most unlike the
Speaker 1: one that is in The White. House among The, republicans
Speaker 1: which personality is most Unlike Donald trumps who might run
Speaker 1: for the.
Speaker 9: PRESIDENCY i Think youngkin is probably the most different From
Speaker 9: trump in. Personality he has no sharp. Edges he always
Speaker 9: is trying to reach consensus void. Conflict you, know it's
Speaker 9: interesting that opposite effect That axelrod talks. About first TIME
Speaker 9: i heard it but was From Chris, matthews The hardball
Speaker 9: anchor FROM.
Speaker 5: Hi we also Do.
Speaker 9: Americans matthews told, me always elect for the person that they,
Speaker 9: did unlike the previous. Occupant BUT i never really THINK
Speaker 9: i thought of it in terms of primaries before, you
Speaker 9: AND i actually think in the, primary what people, are
Speaker 9: What republicans are going to want is someone to carry
Speaker 9: on The trump, agenda but to be able to do
Speaker 9: so in a way that can secure another term for
Speaker 9: The republicans in The White, house knowing the dangers that
Speaker 9: this country faces from a radical left Any man.
Speaker 1: Party we're coming back on the network Standby Welcome back In.
Speaker 1: America i'm, You Hugh hat joined By Matt continetti AS
Speaker 1: i am Most. Fridays he is the head Of domestic
Speaker 1: Polity studies at The American Enterprise. Institute so also The
Speaker 1: Free expressions columnists at The Wall Street journal and The Thursday.
Speaker 1: PANELIST i listened to him yesterday on the commentary podcast
Speaker 1: So mad AS i was listening to your podcast And
Speaker 1: Jay pod goes back and forth on where he is
Speaker 1: on the. WAR i think we've won the ward. DECIDEDLY
Speaker 1: i think it's a strategic win that will Follow trump through.
Speaker 1: History BUT i would end it this, way The hewet
Speaker 1: plan Wi cooff And kushner on their way To islamabad right,
Speaker 1: Now i'd have a piece of, paper a target, sheet non.
Speaker 1: Exclusive just day, one we're going to hit this oil.
Speaker 1: Facility day, two we're gonna hit this. One day, three
Speaker 1: all the way down to you, know Carg island will
Speaker 1: be the last, day and we'll destroy. That we'll level.
Speaker 1: That we're not going to occupy. It we're already picking
Speaker 1: up their. Tankers we've picked up three of their tankers this.
Speaker 1: Week that's about six million barrels of. Oil so that's
Speaker 1: a six hundred million dollar. Loss they need money to build,
Speaker 1: nukes AND i would let them, decide do you want
Speaker 1: an oil industry or do you want the? Nuke what
Speaker 1: do you think of The hewet.
Speaker 8: PLAN i think it's a good.
Speaker 9: Plan very interesting to me THAT Jd vance is not
Speaker 9: headed Toward islamabad this. Weekend of, course The iranians didn't
Speaker 9: want to continue talking With kushner And wikoff Because kushner
Speaker 9: And wikoff have been very resistant to The iranian attempt
Speaker 9: to draw out these negotiations to gain financial benefit before
Speaker 9: they have to deliver on any of their. Promises and
Speaker 9: so here we're going to HAVE i, think another round
Speaker 9: of kabuki conversations Between, raichi The iranian foreign, minister and
Speaker 9: Then Jared kushner And Steve.
Speaker 8: Wikoff so the question is what will? Happen?
Speaker 9: Then the worst thing that could happen is we agree
Speaker 9: to end the blockade and give sanctions relief to The
Speaker 9: iranians without any real deliverables on their. PART i don't
Speaker 9: think that's going to. Happen so then you have two.
Speaker 9: Alternatives you have the resumption of the military campaign following
Speaker 9: that Excellent hewitt target.
Speaker 8: List i'd like to see that. LIST i bet it's
Speaker 8: a great.
Speaker 9: List or you have the status quo and either policy
Speaker 9: resuming the military campaign, certainly but also the current.
Speaker 8: Policy the status quot policy.
Speaker 9: Will exact increasing pressure on The iranian, regime and that's
Speaker 9: what we need to continue to. Do we've made great,
Speaker 9: strides accomplished, much but the final effort needs to be
Speaker 9: in depriving this regime of its financial lines of. Support
Speaker 9: and then showing that The United States, navy the three
Speaker 9: carrier groups we now have in the, region can take the,
Speaker 9: lead clear the strait UP harmus and create a new
Speaker 9: lane of escort traffic so that it's never held hostage
Speaker 9: by this terrorist.
Speaker 8: Regime again that interesting.
Speaker 1: Question you're, right by the, way the target, list best,
Speaker 1: list never been the better.
Speaker 8: LIST i want to know this, list the perfect, list.
Speaker 1: Perfect, list gold play the. LIST i want to ask
Speaker 1: about another one of your, Colleagues, ai did you ever
Speaker 1: see the Movie big With Tom? Hanks everyone, Has i'm
Speaker 1: just assuming you. Have have you Seen big many?
Speaker 9: Times it's a, Classic so.
Speaker 1: You know the fortune teller in the boot that knows
Speaker 1: exactly what's going to. Happen, yes all, right that's, you
Speaker 1: of all. Eleven would you walk by and put a
Speaker 1: coin in the machine and ask, you of all, eleven
Speaker 1: why we don't have pipelines FROM uae To haitha already under,
Speaker 1: construction because it just seems to me pipelines are the.
Speaker 9: Answer you, know, here that might be the one question
Speaker 9: that you've all even cannot answer and probably wouldn't want.
Speaker 8: To, YEAH i think it's. OBVIOUS i think it's.
Speaker 9: Amazing that the world allowed itself to be put into
Speaker 9: this situation fifty years of an approach to The iranian
Speaker 9: regime that was de, escalatory that was our. Right we
Speaker 9: would just want to avoid conflict with The iranian. Regime
Speaker 9: we want to keep the oil. Flowing we'll put you,
Speaker 9: know slightly under twenty percent of the global oil supply
Speaker 9: through the straight Of, hermus will put twenty percent of
Speaker 9: the world's fertilizer supply through the straight Of. Hermus who cares.
Speaker 9: Well now we see why that was a huge strategic,
Speaker 9: mistake AND i think it's important that the world knows.
Speaker 5: That, So, yes why is this pipeline not?
Speaker 9: There it's because people were invested in the status quo
Speaker 9: of Allowing iran to continue to terrorize the, world to
Speaker 9: continue its progress toward a nuclear, weapon to continue ITS icbm.
Speaker 9: Program and it's finally this, President President, trump.
Speaker 8: Who said enough is.
Speaker 9: Enough and that means short term, pain but the long
Speaker 9: term gain of disarming The iranian, regime ending its nuclear,
Speaker 9: program and setting the conditions where its eventual collapse will be.
Speaker 1: Historic, oh a strategic. Win BUT i think you Underestimate you've.
Speaker 1: All i've never met, him which is WHY i mispronounced
Speaker 1: his last. Name BUT i still think you want to
Speaker 1: ask him the second question That i'd like to. Know
Speaker 1: are there no? Roads are there no tanker? Trucks are
Speaker 1: there no fertilizer trucks that can move the fertilizer to
Speaker 1: A mediterranean? Port because it is all. Connected it's not
Speaker 1: like there's you don't have to go over The strait
Speaker 1: to deliver fertilizer to the.
Speaker 9: World, no you, know there are, alternatives AND i think
Speaker 9: it's a matter of time of. REPRICING i think a
Speaker 9: lot of the repricing of the energy supply is already
Speaker 9: being done some of the other commodities that go through The.
Speaker 9: Strait but the fundamental for, Me hugh is we cannot
Speaker 9: knot allow hostile regimes to control the world's naval choke.
Speaker 8: Points and that that.
Speaker 9: Includes The, Gulf that includes The gulf Of aiden that
Speaker 9: The huthis have been, terrorizing that includes The strait Of
Speaker 9: hormuz and The Persian gulf That iran has shown it
Speaker 9: doesn't care whether it blows up ships commercial, vessels it terrorizes.
Speaker 9: Them and it also includes The Taiwan strait and The
Speaker 9: strait Of. Malacca and so this is a wake up.
Speaker 8: Call do you.
Speaker 1: Mind if we impoverish The iranian, PEOPLE i didn't want
Speaker 1: to do, it but if you, do destroy their oil,
Speaker 1: infrastructure and it's going to be destroyed simply because there
Speaker 1: are capacity for storage right. Now when you stop, pumping
Speaker 1: as The president tried to explain in The trumpian, way
Speaker 1: it screws up the whole. System the plumbing gets. Broken
Speaker 1: do you worry about impoverishing The iranian. People they're not
Speaker 1: getting the money, anyway SO i don't worry about. That
Speaker 1: did we lose Matt ranian? People, Yeah i'm hearing Newt
Speaker 1: can you hear? Me oh you're? Back you got one? Minute,
Speaker 1: yeah you worry about it one.
Speaker 9: Minute america didn't impoverish The iranian.
Speaker 8: People The iranian government.
Speaker 9: Did and that's that's the, truth and that's why we
Speaker 9: can continue to exert this maximum. Pressure the, blockade interdite
Speaker 9: the the kind of the are the veins of THE
Speaker 9: irgc economically and put the pressure on the regime so
Speaker 9: that The iranian people have a new chance for a
Speaker 9: new future and a more prosperous one as.
Speaker 1: Well who should get the money from the? Tankers we
Speaker 1: did take three tankers victims Of iranian terror or the
Speaker 1: Strategic Petroleum. Ringer we lost them. Again that's because we
Speaker 1: have a thunderstorm And Northern virginia has the infrastructure of Southwestern.
Speaker 1: Iran don't go Anywhere. America i'm, Here, hewett stay. Tuned
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Speaker 1: i wanted to ask you about. That when the Late Fred,
Speaker 1: hyatt who hired me at The, post was the poobah
Speaker 1: of the opinion pages at The, post that was his,
Speaker 1: title editor of the opinion. Pages but we don't have
Speaker 1: pages at The Daily. Wire what do we call you
Speaker 1: at The Daily?
Speaker 10: Wire, uh you can call me head of, opinions head
Speaker 10: of a, pin. Notoe but, YES i completely. Understand, no
Speaker 10: there's you, know one of the one of the ADVANTAGES
Speaker 10: i and REALLY i actually miss it of the old
Speaker 10: newspaper pages is that they kept your writers to a particular.
Speaker 10: Count you have to meet that count in order to
Speaker 10: actually do quality. Work AND i think that it's one
Speaker 10: of the things that you, know FRANKLY i miss about
Speaker 10: the original version of X you did much better work
Speaker 10: when you were confined to a and in their, case artificial.
Speaker 10: Limit but when it comes to.
Speaker 1: Sometimes i'll write a thousand words ON xpn and it'll
Speaker 1: get a million views because it's. Serious And Mark dubbotz
Speaker 1: had one On iran last. Night he deserve ten. MILLION
Speaker 1: i read.
Speaker 10: That, yes, yeah and so. So BUT i just THINK
Speaker 10: i just think that one of the things that is
Speaker 10: good about restrictions when it comes to writing is that
Speaker 10: far too many writers just are unwilling to kill their.
Speaker 10: Darlings they, just you, know hold on to every word
Speaker 10: as if it's a pearl scent from on.
Speaker 1: High and, oh my Friend Mike duffy is just about
Speaker 1: my columns THAT i wrote everything. Twice they were fine,
Speaker 1: columns BUT i said the same thing twice every. Time
Speaker 1: he was. Right so we'll just call you the commizzaar
Speaker 1: of commentary at The Daily.
Speaker 10: Wire sounds. WONDERFUL i accept that.
Speaker 1: NOW i, will, not, however call you a draft. ANALYST
Speaker 1: i listened to The Big ben podcast this. Week not
Speaker 1: only Did lucas Nail sunny styles at, seven you actually
Speaker 1: Thought Carnel tait might drop, There so that means you
Speaker 1: don't know anything About Ohio state. FOOTBALL i was hoping
Speaker 1: he would drop.
Speaker 10: Hilarily, no, NO i WAS i was hoping hoping that
Speaker 10: he would drop. There of course he didn't drop there
Speaker 10: because everybody else understood how great of a player that he.
Speaker 3: Is he.
Speaker 10: Is But Sunny, STYLES i, MEAN i, Mean i'm not
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Speaker 1: All. Easy you should be very. Excited you very excited
Speaker 1: what we got last year from THE ucla and.
Speaker 10: Runbacker for one year and he was arguably the best
Speaker 10: one in. Football.
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Speaker 1: Thomas so don't you really want to just do sports
Speaker 1: radio once a week with? Me we could just do
Speaker 1: sports radio once a.
Speaker 10: WEEK i would BE i would be more than happy
Speaker 10: to do, That. Hugh it would actually SEE i mean
Speaker 10: the funny thing about talking to the, folks who are you.
Speaker 10: KNOW i, Mean i'm sure you do the same thing
Speaker 10: the folks who are off air At Fox news is
Speaker 10: THAT i went in to do a commentary With John
Speaker 10: roberts this, week and every and every conversation that we
Speaker 10: had running up to the actual, segment which was not about,
Speaker 10: sports was about who should be drafted and where.
Speaker 1: Now Is John john hang on to His canadian roots
Speaker 1: and root for THE cfl OR i.
Speaker 10: Can SO i can talk to him about THE, cfl
Speaker 10: AND i can talk to him about, Hockey but he
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Speaker 1: to The hewitt plan for finishing the. WAR i think
Speaker 1: there's a big victory and that history will recognize it
Speaker 1: as a big. Victory that The trump distortion effect and
Speaker 1: The net And yahoo distortion effect are making smart people
Speaker 1: say stupid. Things But i'd like to bring it to an.
Speaker 1: End and so my plan, is you, Know woodkoff And
Speaker 1: kushner on a plane To. ISLAMABAD i hope they have
Speaker 1: a piece of paper on it with thirty targets day
Speaker 1: one through, thirty and they're all oil, targets and they
Speaker 1: simply do on day. One they're not. Exclusionary we can
Speaker 1: hit other stuff like launchers and missiles and. Stuff but day,
Speaker 1: one we're going to hit this oil field day to,
Speaker 1: this day, three and it's gonna end with Carg. Island
Speaker 1: on day, thirty we're gonna level it and you're going
Speaker 1: to be poor for a. Generation and that's what you
Speaker 1: get for screwing. Around so pick your. Time what do
Speaker 1: you make of The hewitt?
Speaker 10: Plan so you're going to make them an offer they can't.
Speaker 1: Refuse, yeah this is my, offer nothing but.
Speaker 10: Pain don't. LOOK I i hope that they're smart enough
Speaker 10: to do. That here's the thing THAT i think you
Speaker 10: know you need to and you talk to a lot
Speaker 10: more politicians THAN i. DO I i got a chance
Speaker 10: to talk to some of These Capitol hill folks this
Speaker 10: week WHEN i was doing A wired And live segment
Speaker 10: THAT i swung into off the bench Because. Capt phillips was.
Speaker 10: Sick but the thing was that was interesting to me
Speaker 10: WAS i don't think these guys know how to talk about.
Speaker 10: THIS i don't think they're used to talking about. It
Speaker 10: remember last week when you were talking about them not
Speaker 10: being able to vocalize achieved during this operation or anything
Speaker 10: associated with. THAT i think that you need to be
Speaker 10: you need to be addressing that. Too Mike johnson needs
Speaker 10: to invite you to come and talk to the conference on,
Speaker 10: that because those guys definitely don't know how to talk about.
Speaker 10: It AND i think it's a real problem for them
Speaker 10: because it's the number to, me that is the number
Speaker 10: one point of how you're going to go into the
Speaker 10: next six months arguing about what comes. Next you can't
Speaker 10: nail that, down if you can't make the case for,
Speaker 10: it then you already are starting on your heels effectively
Speaker 10: by arguing essentially essentially with you, know years Of american
Speaker 10: president when it comes to our beliefs about foreign.
Speaker 1: Policy and there's a reason why the first ten minutes
Speaker 1: of patent triggers every progressive and every conservative loves. It
Speaker 1: it talks about winning and killing the, enemy and that's
Speaker 1: what it's.
Speaker 10: About, yeah and, look this should be something that they
Speaker 10: Are this should be something that comes naturally to. THEM
Speaker 10: i understand why it doesn't because they're not used to.
Speaker 10: It they don't have they don't have any kind of
Speaker 10: prescript for, it you, Know AND i Think, frankly their
Speaker 10: staff isn't used to. It but those are the things
Speaker 10: that are going to matter when it comes to making
Speaker 10: an argument to The american, people and it could be
Speaker 10: a huge difference in terms of the outcome that we
Speaker 10: see In. November if they're incapable of making that, Argument,
Speaker 10: hugh if they're incapable of advocating for this and arguing
Speaker 10: for it on the on the measures that they have,
Speaker 10: achieved they are going to be coming from behind the entire,
Speaker 10: time and they could end up with a twenty to
Speaker 10: twenty five, seat you, know bottom out in terms of
Speaker 10: something that's going to have to be climbed out of
Speaker 10: over the coming. YEARS i don't want to see. THAT
Speaker 10: i know you don't want to see. That the country
Speaker 10: doesn't want to see.
Speaker 1: That, YEAH i thinks by twenty thirty, two with the new,
Speaker 1: census all will be. Right i'm kind of resigned to
Speaker 1: losing The house and we're gonna have three impeachments and
Speaker 1: he's not going to be, removed and history's going to
Speaker 1: Say Donald trump did what he wanted to do and
Speaker 1: he got it. Done And i'm going to ask you
Speaker 1: in the next.
Speaker 10: MEGUMENT i think it's only going to be. Three, yeah maybe.
Speaker 1: You're, Right, YEAH i got they got two a year
Speaker 1: every six. MONTHS i am. Wrong and in segment, Three
Speaker 1: i'm going to ask you about we're in the eleventh.
Speaker 1: Era ear of The trump era begins with coming down the.
Speaker 1: Escalator what's the most important thing in The trump era thus?
Speaker 1: Far the worst development thus, far the best of worst
Speaker 1: Of trump and the best of worst Of. Dems but
Speaker 1: before we get, there right, now The virginia map is
Speaker 1: such a. Nightmare NOW i am also by the, WAY
Speaker 1: i believe in. REDISTRICTING i think politicians are allowed to
Speaker 1: screw up the. Maps massachusetts has No. Republicans that's just
Speaker 1: good old fashioned. Politics but if you vote in a
Speaker 1: constitutional wall against that. Stuff this ought to be struck.
Speaker 1: Down BUT i don't think The Virginia Supreme court has
Speaker 1: part in the expression the stones to strike it. Down they're.
Speaker 1: AFRAID i.
Speaker 10: Completely, agree and this is in fact What i've been
Speaker 10: saying about. IT i think that The Supreme court In
Speaker 10: virginia people need to understand. This this is a it's
Speaker 10: a more political situation than The National Supreme. Court so
Speaker 10: you're going to see them react to the politics of.
Speaker 10: This they kicked the can on it before because they
Speaker 10: were worried about the outcome and they didn't want to
Speaker 10: rule on it in. Advance and now they're stuck in
Speaker 10: a position where on the merits every. Argument we ran two.
Speaker 10: Pieces we ran a piece from the lead attorney on,
Speaker 10: this and we ran a piece From Keng, guchinelli the
Speaker 10: former attorney general at The Delia wire on. This THEY
Speaker 10: i think they have the better of the. ARGUMENT i
Speaker 10: don't see any, way, though that The Supreme court is
Speaker 10: actually going to follow that. PATH i think that they're
Speaker 10: going to rule, politically and that's going to end up
Speaker 10: in a situation where we are stuck with this Ridiculous lobster.
Speaker 10: Map the one thing THAT i will say is that you,
Speaker 10: know a number of these, districts including The lobster by the,
Speaker 10: way didn't necessarily go as favorably For democrats as they
Speaker 10: thought they were going to. Go and that, that you,
Speaker 10: KNOW i think it could be a sign that maybe,
Speaker 10: they you, know overstep their line a little. Bit you,
Speaker 10: know maybe you.
Speaker 1: Can't overplay your. Hand so Should ron De santus answer
Speaker 1: because they're twenty eight seats down, there Twenty republicans eight Or.
Speaker 1: Democrats you go to CHAT gpt AND groc and say
Speaker 1: give me a map that wipes out The, democrats it
Speaker 1: will give it to. Him should?
Speaker 10: HE i think you. SHOULD i think you absolutely. Should why?
Speaker 10: NOT i, mean you, KNOW i agree you you. YOU
Speaker 10: i THINK i have the same attitude that you. Do
Speaker 10: this is just a fashion. Politics being competitive and trying
Speaker 10: to and try to nail this down is not something
Speaker 10: That i'm going to judge anybody. For so, LOOK i
Speaker 10: think you. SHOULD i think you should put the trigger on.
Speaker 10: It we've seen this was an absolutely ludicrous. Map it
Speaker 10: was NOT i mean When Gill stamberg is, like kend
Speaker 10: to one seems a little, Extreme maybe let's do nine to,
Speaker 10: two you. Know and then they didn't even have the willingness.
Speaker 1: To do that because they're radically gift to pull out.
Speaker 10: Everything, yes SO i.
Speaker 1: Want to go With Democrat party To lenda asked at
Speaker 1: the end of every single speech in The, senate in
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Speaker 1: Alito ALL i know Of Justice thomas is he've been
Speaker 1: my guest on the radio show. Once he's been a
Speaker 1: guest At Chapman Law. SCHOOL i served on the combined
Speaker 1: federal campaign for The district Of columbia with him decades.
Speaker 1: Ago they're both wonderful men and extraordinary people and their.
Speaker 1: Jurisprudence THOUGH i don't agree With Justice thomas, OFTEN i
Speaker 1: understand his position about. Incorporation alito is the perfect. Justice
Speaker 1: i'd like them both to retire BECAUSE i don't want
Speaker 1: want to gamble with the six member. Court what do you, Think.
Speaker 10: Well, PERSONALLY i would just say to, you you, KNOW
Speaker 10: i think it's not ideal to be able to say
Speaker 10: that two truly great justices in terms of their, careers
Speaker 10: need to be need to, retire and need to be.
Speaker 10: Replaced BUT i think you're. CORRECT i, mean the window
Speaker 10: here is very, small and we have to be realistic
Speaker 10: about these things, now especially considering the fact that The
Speaker 10: Democratic party has signaled in every, way shape and form
Speaker 10: that they intend to pack the court as soon as.
Speaker 10: Possible SO i think you have to get that. DONE
Speaker 10: i think you have to do, it as you, know
Speaker 10: within this, window even understanding that with that comes a
Speaker 10: loss of brain heft and and a lot more to
Speaker 10: come from. It AND i, MEAN i don't know what
Speaker 10: YOU i Actually i've never taken The Hugh qwitt poll
Speaker 10: about who you have in mind to replace these. GENTLEMEN
Speaker 10: i happen to be a long time friend and advocate
Speaker 10: for One Jim, hoe WHO i, Think oh, right, great.
Speaker 1: GREAT i Think i'm all at the bar checks a
Speaker 1: lot of boxes And Justice thomas might step down if
Speaker 1: you Knew i'm all the bar was coming. In but
Speaker 1: you've Got Alison, Rushing you've got a. Whole BUT i
Speaker 1: mean there are Twenty the second, question though we have one,
Speaker 1: Minute molly countered, with, well do you want your Friend.
Speaker 1: Robert he's not my. FRIEND i worked with. Him i've
Speaker 1: known him for forty, years but he's a colleague in ic.
Speaker 1: Him occasionally The Chief justice should step, down he's seventy.
Speaker 1: ONE i, said absolutely. Not he's a great Chief. JUSTICE i,
Speaker 1: mean he's really a Great Chief. Justice do you want
Speaker 1: him to retire To.
Speaker 10: NO i. DON'T i actually think he's managed things quite.
Speaker 10: EFFECTIVELY i, mean it's not and in PART i would
Speaker 10: just suggest that The overton window is important, here and you,
Speaker 10: know you want to have justices Replace alo And thomas
Speaker 10: who are going to be able to do the work
Speaker 10: that is needed on that. Court sometimes with The Chief
Speaker 10: justice you need someone who can navigate things a little bit.
Speaker 10: Differently there are ramifications for that that you. KNOW i still,
Speaker 10: think you, KNOW i wish that there were more consequences
Speaker 10: for everything that happened With. Dobbs but you, know when
Speaker 10: it comes to The CHIEF i think he's, actually you,
Speaker 10: know done a good job of figuring this.
Speaker 1: Out he's. Brilliant and when he's WHEN i narrowed it
Speaker 1: down With molly And book on, race there's nobody better
Speaker 1: than getting rid of the awarding of penalties or the
Speaker 1: awarding of benefits and punishments based on. Race there's no
Speaker 1: one better on free. Speech he's just, uh he gets
Speaker 1: this wrap because of The, obamacare but that was actually
Speaker 1: correctly decided under constructional avoidance. Principle stay, Tuned, Ben i'll
Speaker 1: be right back With Ben dominis for the best and
Speaker 1: worse of The trump era thus. Far welcome Back. America
Speaker 1: I'm Hewett Ben, dominich who is the commissaurre of commentary
Speaker 1: At The Daily, Wire Fox news contributor hosts Of The
Speaker 1: Big Ben.
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Speaker 1: ben this question is is actually prompted by your discussion
Speaker 1: of w on The Big Ben. POD i agree with.
Speaker 1: You i've been along a long. Time he's my favorite
Speaker 1: president as a. Person he is the most, decent, loving,
Speaker 1: kind Ethical christian. Man AND i Think i'm not even
Speaker 1: sure he made the wrong. DECISION i might. HAVE i
Speaker 1: think everyone would have made the same decision on the
Speaker 1: bad knowledgy was given but the perfect guy for nine to,
Speaker 1: eleven and we're coming up on the twenty fifth, year
Speaker 1: and then we had The obama, era and that's an
Speaker 1: era devoid of anything except sound and, noise representing. Nothing
Speaker 1: The Trump era begins in twenty fifteen with The. Escalator it's.
Speaker 1: Ongoing it's going to be a fifteen year period Of
Speaker 1: america that will be known as The Trump. Era what
Speaker 1: is the best and worst development of The Trump? Era
Speaker 1: it might not have anything to do With. Trump SO
Speaker 1: i think the.
Speaker 10: Best development of The Trump era is a reorienting that
Speaker 10: needed to happen regarding The Republican party and the coalition
Speaker 10: that they needed to. BECOME i think for years people
Speaker 10: had been sort of going back and forth about trying
Speaker 10: to make certain things. Work rodney, really to his, credit
Speaker 10: did his best to try them to make that coalition.
Speaker 10: Work Donald trump transformed that, coalition AND i think that
Speaker 10: transformation is a positive. ONE i think it's very, good
Speaker 10: AND i think it's going to lead to More republican
Speaker 10: successes when it comes to the presidential. Politics the flip
Speaker 10: side of that is that we have a more, toxic more,
Speaker 10: villainous more vile environment when it comes to the expressions
Speaker 10: of opinions THAN i have ever seen in my, life
Speaker 10: and you. LIVED i, mean you are aware of The nick.
Speaker 10: Scenario SO i feel like it's too much for me
Speaker 10: to say it's never happened In.
Speaker 8: America it's so.
Speaker 1: Much worse Than. Nixon it's so much worse Than.
Speaker 10: Nixon you, think, Okay so that actually vindicates something THAT i,
Speaker 10: think Because i've been arguing that In washington with some
Speaker 10: of my younger, COLLEAGUES i think IT'S i think it's
Speaker 10: much much. Worse AND i think that the simple fact
Speaker 10: is that that's not something that can be recovered from
Speaker 10: via an. Election you, know it's not going to be
Speaker 10: something where you have a cycle and you get through, it.
Speaker 10: Okay Like it's just that is the aspect of The
Speaker 10: trump era THAT i think is absolutely the. Worst it
Speaker 10: takes normal, people and it incentivizes them to be, radical
Speaker 10: to do crazy, things to say crazy, things and to
Speaker 10: hate their. Neighbors AND i hate all of. That BUT
Speaker 10: i also think that's Not Donald trump's. FAULT i don't
Speaker 10: think that he did any of. THAT i don't know
Speaker 10: reaction from the.
Speaker 1: Left, now let me talk to you about the clarity
Speaker 1: that he. BROUGHT i think the best thing that he
Speaker 1: ushered in was clarity everybody knows who everybody is and
Speaker 1: where they. Stand whether it's McCrone And starmer Or Tucker
Speaker 1: carlson And Candace, owen whether it Is John hick And
Speaker 1: looper Or Susan. Kallin everybody is out there in the
Speaker 1: middle with The cleague lights, on defined by a thousand.
Speaker 1: Voye but in the, END i think essentially understood for
Speaker 1: who they. Are AND i don't think we're misled about.
Speaker 1: Anyone what do you think about?
Speaker 10: THEM i think you miss the cold Where HUGH i
Speaker 10: appreciated the. Clarity that's where we're. At, NO i think
Speaker 10: you're completely. Right and look the other Thing i'll just
Speaker 10: say about, this AND i mean it's one of these
Speaker 10: areas where WHATEVER i compliment him for, it whatever anybody
Speaker 10: compliments him for, it you, know you get backlash for.
Speaker 10: IT i appreciate having a president who's this. Funny i'm,
Speaker 10: Yeah i'm in the business of. Journalism i'm in the
Speaker 10: business of. MEDIA i appreciate having a president who actually
Speaker 10: is entertaining and interesting and creates news himself simply from his,
Speaker 10: comments you, Know and that's something that you, KNOW i
Speaker 10: think we'll miss what he's gone BECAUSE i don't think
Speaker 10: that there's going to be anybody who is.
Speaker 1: Entertaining don't you really run him to do The Ruthless.
Speaker 1: PIKE i did it right along on The ruthless podcast.
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Speaker 1: That maybe they're. Afraid carolyn And steve are afraid because
Speaker 1: it would be the funniest episode in the history of The.
Speaker 1: Internet AND i did the ride a hood.
Speaker 10: OBVIOUSLY i, mean, Yes, Look i've Known josh And i've
Speaker 10: Known duncan for. Years you know that they will get
Speaker 10: the best out of. Him he's got to do. IT
Speaker 10: i MEAN I i to the extent THAT i can
Speaker 10: help make that. Happen AND i MEAN i did. THERE
Speaker 10: i did it two weeks three weeks. AGO i can't
Speaker 10: remember which and, uh and it's still it's a phenomenal
Speaker 10: conversation always and it gets the best out of.
Speaker 1: You but were you? FUNNY i told them at the, Beginning,
Speaker 1: Look i'm not. Funny i've listened to your show for,
Speaker 1: years AND i know what you're supposed to do when
Speaker 1: you're ride. ALONG i can't Be Mary Catherine ham Or Ben.
Speaker 1: Dominic i'm not the right. Demo but they were nice to. Me,
Speaker 1: Uh trump would own.
Speaker 10: It, absolutely and you, know and maybe maybe that's the
Speaker 10: maybe that's the follow on. Career. NO i THINK i
Speaker 10: think that what we can appreciate about This trump era
Speaker 10: is that he has Reordered american politics in a way
Speaker 10: THAT i think is healthier for The republican. Coalition he's made,
Speaker 10: IT i, think a stronger presidential year, coalition emphasis on presidential.
Speaker 10: Year BUT i also think that he's someone who has
Speaker 10: unfortunately led to a toxicity that has made a lot
Speaker 10: of people be crazy who really need to just check.
Speaker 10: Themselves all, right you just gave me an, Idea ben
Speaker 10: friends as you AND i.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah you just gave me an. Idea w the
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Speaker 1: good on, interviews but he Wouldn't he wouldn't be. Funny
Speaker 1: trump the podcast would be. Fabulous number.
Speaker 10: One number. One.
Speaker 1: Absolutely all you would need to do is, say, No
Speaker 1: Roger goodell last, night what do you? Think and then
Speaker 1: lean back and get out of the.
Speaker 10: Way, yeah.
Speaker 1: Exactly he would tell you About rogers's entire life and
Speaker 1: he knows. Everyone then you'd go back over To. Broadway
Speaker 1: do you the favorite? Show and you get a history
Speaker 1: Of broadway and you could bounce over to you, know
Speaker 1: the heiti and he would tell you all about the.
Speaker 1: Heating now he might spill more classified.
Speaker 10: Information the funniest the funniest things that he says are
Speaker 10: typically off the. Record and and SO i think you,
Speaker 10: know if you if he actually did the, PODCAST i
Speaker 10: mean wait for a live stream because that would be.
Speaker 8: INSANE i, okay.
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Speaker 1: left who was up with Al Sai ed AND i
Speaker 1: can't remember A Pat Piker Piker, yeah, OKAY i don't
Speaker 1: know anything about this guy except he's an Anti semitic evil.
Speaker 1: Person when did he become? Big so he.
Speaker 10: Became big in part because he's just this guy who
Speaker 10: sort of fits a then diagram of different aspects of
Speaker 10: the dirt Bag, left especially with the death of some
Speaker 10: of their older podcasts that went away one of the
Speaker 10: name of one of WHICH i can't, name But dwayne
Speaker 10: will tell you in the. Break but but the thing
Speaker 10: THAT i think is really true about him is he
Speaker 10: is a Completely he's a perfect example of how fake
Speaker 10: The left. Is this is a guy who comes from
Speaker 10: a wealthy. Family he literally had a pony when he
Speaker 10: was growing, up not someone who is in any, Way,
Speaker 10: yes literally you. Can i'm writing. It it's and the
Speaker 10: whole point is like this is a perfect example of
Speaker 10: like elite capitalist children who just decide that they hate their,
Speaker 10: parents and so because of, that they're going to go
Speaker 10: out there and, say, oh that's the weather.
Speaker 1: Underground that's WHEN i was in high school and the
Speaker 1: weather underground were blowing themselves, up and they were all
Speaker 1: rich kids From Greenwich. Village one hundred.
Speaker 10: Percent these are Not these are not people who are
Speaker 10: coming from, that from you, know the underclass and revolting against. People,
Speaker 10: no these are wealthy people who who are absolutely doing
Speaker 10: this because OF i think deep seated psychological issues that
Speaker 10: should have been dealt with in. Therapy i'm not.
Speaker 1: Well, ben start thinking about right now being the host
Speaker 1: of The trump, podcast because you'd be perfect at. That
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