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<v Speaker 1>iTunes and Hillsdale Morning, Laurie and Evening Grace America. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Big Weekend Pod. I'm Hugh hewittt. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a quiet week in the war, if you call all

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<v Speaker 1>those ceasefire violations by hesbillah lobbing missiles into Israel and

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<v Speaker 1>by Iranian proxies in Iraq attacking Kuwait quiet, but full

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<v Speaker 1>scale war has not yet broken out. Again. Looks like

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<v Speaker 1>we're sending Special Envoy Witcoff and Kushner back to Pakistan.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not been confirmed yet. At the time that I

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<v Speaker 1>am laying this down, I don't believe this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to end up in anything other than the return to

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<v Speaker 1>combat in a pretty big way. Because Vahiti, who's the

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<v Speaker 1>new czar of Iran, is he'd rather be martyr than rich.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a new hunter. The head of the hunter

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<v Speaker 1>is Bahiti he's an old school IRGC martyr guy and

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<v Speaker 1>fought in the Big War eighty to eighty eight against

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<v Speaker 1>Iraq in the Iraq Iran War, So I expect he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a lot of persuading. I personally believe,

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<v Speaker 1>as you'll hear me talk about with Ben Nominich, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Continetti that the United States ought to hand them

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<v Speaker 1>a target list, non exclusive target list just says when

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<v Speaker 1>day one begins, we'll hit this oil target, and then

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<v Speaker 1>day two, day whatever day, and then the final day

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't yielded the highly enriched uranium, taking the

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<v Speaker 1>vow never to go after nukes again and put constraints

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<v Speaker 1>on your missiles and eased up on your people, return

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet, then we will take out carg Island. He

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<v Speaker 1>could take two things to make a nuclear weapon. Time

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<v Speaker 1>and money. They think they've got all the time in

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<v Speaker 1>the world and all the oil. Well, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to leave them with the oil if we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a deal on the nukes, because President Trump is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that. So I'm hoping he pursues that.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll hear me talk about that possibility with both Eli

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<v Speaker 1>Lake and Matt Contnity and of course, Ben Damage. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot ahead on today's big weekend Pod. Don't miss

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<v Speaker 1>or a evening race in America. I'm Hugh Hewett inside

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<v Speaker 1>that built weigh. A good Friday to you. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you have a great weekend ahead. Cleveland Brown's drafted Spencer

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<v Speaker 1>Fano in the first round, number nine overall after trading down,

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<v Speaker 1>picking up an extra couple of picks from the Casey

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs or an easy mark, and they got their man.

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Fana win the Outland Trophy. If you're listening in

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thirty in Salt Lake City, go uts. We're very

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<v Speaker 1>excited about that. He give me left tackle. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the last Brown who have won the Outland Trophy was

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer Joe Thomas, so we'd like a repeat

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Joe Thomas was drafted twenty years ago, so

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<v Speaker 1>time for another era. The Spencer Fano era also picked

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<v Speaker 1>up Kevin Kincepsian from Texas A and m speedy, speedy, fast,

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<v Speaker 1>elusive returns punts as well, and we have nine more

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<v Speaker 1>picks today, so I'll be covering that. No, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to cover the draft. I'll cover the news specially.

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<v Speaker 1>Envoy Witkov and Jared Kushner are going back to Islamabad.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, given the presser we have depending

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<v Speaker 1>on this morning, let's start their secretary head seth cut

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<v Speaker 1>number six on the blockade, glowing global, going global.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump said it again yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>We have all the time in the world, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>not anxious for a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hear him say it every day in.

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<v Speaker 4>Private as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Naran knows that they still have an open window choose wisely,

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<v Speaker 3>as we said previously, choose wisely at the negotiating table.

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<v Speaker 3>All they have to do is abandon a nuclear weapon

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<v Speaker 3>in meaningful and verifiable ways. Or instead they can watch

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<v Speaker 3>their regimes fragile economic state collapse under the unrelenting pressure

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<v Speaker 3>of American power, a blockade as long as it takes,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever President Trump decides. Because the bottom line line remains

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 2>Iran will never get a nuclear bomb.

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<v Speaker 3>The choice is Theirs, but with this blockade, the clock

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<v Speaker 3>is not on their side. Moreover, President Trump has authorized

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<v Speaker 3>the United States Navy to destroy any Iranian fast boats

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<v Speaker 3>that attempt to put mines in the water or disrupt

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<v Speaker 3>passage through the Strait of Hormuz, to shoot and kill.

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<v Speaker 2>Our commanders have clear rules of engagement.

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<v Speaker 3>If Iran is putting mines in the water or otherwise

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<v Speaker 3>threatening American commercial shipping or American forces, we will shoot

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<v Speaker 3>to destroy, no hesitation, just like the drug boats in

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<v Speaker 3>the Caribbean.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I think that even the Iranians have got to

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<v Speaker 1>understand we know how to blow up the speedboats and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see who gets to drive and people who want

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<v Speaker 1>to be martyrs. Secretary Hegseth had this to say about

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<v Speaker 1>Iran cutt number three.

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<v Speaker 3>The IRGC specifically has been reduced to a gang.

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<v Speaker 4>Of pirates with a flag. They cloak their.

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<v Speaker 3>Aggression in slogans, but the world now sees them for

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<v Speaker 3>what they are, criminals on the high seas. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>control anything. They're acting like pirates, acting like terrorists. They're

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<v Speaker 3>the ones who lay in discriminate minds, who shoot at

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<v Speaker 3>random ships, who killed forty five thousand of their own people,

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<v Speaker 3>innocent protesters in the course of weeks, their own people.

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<v Speaker 4>They are the bad actors, the vessels.

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<v Speaker 1>With Matt Cotton to Eli Lake Ben Dominich. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to play Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of

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<v Speaker 1>Staff Dan Caine here he is on the blockade cutt

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<v Speaker 1>number seven.

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<v Speaker 5>First.

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<v Speaker 6>As I mentioned, US Central Command continues to maintain a

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<v Speaker 6>strict blockade on all the ports. We're enforcing the blockade

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<v Speaker 6>across the board against any ship of any nationality that

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<v Speaker 6>is transiting to or from an Iranian port or territory.

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<v Speaker 6>We're closely tracking vessels of interest headed towards Iran and

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<v Speaker 6>those moving away from Iran that were outside the blockade

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<v Speaker 6>area when this blockade was ordered, and as everyone saw

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<v Speaker 6>this past weekend, were prepared and postured to intercept them.

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<v Speaker 6>As of this morning, thirty four ships have met the

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<v Speaker 6>US blockade and made the wise choice to turn around.

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<v Speaker 5>One ship did not, and that ship was the.

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<v Speaker 6>Motor vessel Tusca. Over several hours this past Sunday, April nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 6>the US conducted maritime interdiction operations against the Tusca, whose

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<v Speaker 6>crew attempted to breach the blockade line. The Tusca is

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<v Speaker 6>a large container ship about nine hundred and sixty five

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<v Speaker 6>feet long, or about the same size as the United

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<v Speaker 6>States Navy.

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<v Speaker 5>Aircraft carrier, and over one hundred feet wide.

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<v Speaker 6>The operation began about four am Eastern Standard time when

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<v Speaker 6>the United States Navy destroyer approached her and the crew and.

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<v Speaker 5>The vessel ignored warnings.

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<v Speaker 6>And I've described how the destroyer forces operating in the

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<v Speaker 6>area prior. Upon intercept and coming within visual range, American

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<v Speaker 6>forces began to issue issue several clear and unambiguous warnings

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<v Speaker 6>and informed the vessel and their crew that they were

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<v Speaker 6>in a violation of the US blockade and directed the

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<v Speaker 6>ship to turn around. Over a six hour period, the

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<v Speaker 6>vessel and her crew repeatedly ignored US warnings, and then

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<v Speaker 6>the US Navy destroyer executed a series of pre planned,

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<v Speaker 6>carefully calibrated escalation options, including firing five warning shots. The

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<v Speaker 6>vessel and her crew continued to ignore warnings, and after

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<v Speaker 6>exhausting all other measures, Sencom authorized disabling fire against the Tusca.

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<v Speaker 6>US sailors warned the crew of the Tusca to abandon

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<v Speaker 6>the engine room, and at approximately nine am Eastern time,

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<v Speaker 6>the destroyer disabled the Tuska's engine by firing nine inert

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<v Speaker 6>rounds from the destroyer's Mark forty five inch guns precisely

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<v Speaker 6>into the engine room and engine space on board the Tusca.

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<v Speaker 6>Not Surprisingly, the vessel and reported issues with their engine,

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<v Speaker 6>went dead in the water and began to comply with

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<v Speaker 6>US directions and orders. At four pm Eastern Standard time,

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<v Speaker 6>Sentcom ordered United States Marines to seize the ship via helicopters.

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<v Speaker 6>US Marines maneuvered quickly to the disabled ship, boarded her

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<v Speaker 6>from fast ropes via helicopter infiltration methods, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Took custody of the ship.

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<v Speaker 6>The ship and her crew remained safe in US custody today.

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<v Speaker 1>They also have been grabbing tankers. The blockade didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>into effect until about four weeks of the war, and

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of tankers had left, and they're on the

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<v Speaker 1>high seas full of sanctioned oil, basically pirated ships. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what the chairman said about the takeover of one of

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<v Speaker 1>the tankers earlier this week, cutting number eleven.

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<v Speaker 6>On Monday, April twentieth, US INDO pay Com forces, in

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<v Speaker 6>support of a Department of Justice requests, interdicted the motor

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<v Speaker 6>tanker Tiffany which was transporting sanctioned Iranian oil.

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<v Speaker 5>The Tiffany is a very large crewed.

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<v Speaker 6>Tanker VLCC for short, and is also about the size

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<v Speaker 6>of a US aircraft carrier and capable of transporting approximately

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<v Speaker 6>two million barrels of oil. At approximately eleven thirty PM

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<v Speaker 6>Eastern time, US military forces and law enforcement forces also

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<v Speaker 6>went to the ship via rotary winging platforms, fast roped

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<v Speaker 6>onto her deck and secured her. After the ship was secured,

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<v Speaker 6>a US Navy control team embarked aboard the Tiffani Tiffany

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<v Speaker 6>or Tiffani and assumed control of the ship at four

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<v Speaker 6>am Eastern Time on April twenty first. A Navy control

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<v Speaker 6>team is comprised of sailors led by a boarding officer

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<v Speaker 6>that assumes control of a sea ship in order to

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<v Speaker 6>secure the crew, the cargo, and the vessel. And disposition

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<v Speaker 6>of that first vessel is still pending. The next interdiction

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<v Speaker 6>occurred on Wednesday this past Wednesday, twenty two April, when

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<v Speaker 6>Indo Paycom conducted yet another interdiction, again at the request

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<v Speaker 6>of the US Department of Justice, this time the stateless

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<v Speaker 6>motor tanker Majestic X, also known as the Ponix, also

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<v Speaker 6>in the Indian Ocean. This is again a VLCC or

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<v Speaker 6>very large crewed tanker. At approximately eleven PM Eastern Standard time,

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<v Speaker 6>US Forces began the interdiction, again, usering rotary wing assets

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<v Speaker 6>to get to the ship, got on board and.

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<v Speaker 5>Secure the bridge.

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<v Speaker 6>Both ships, the Tefani, the Majestic X, and their crews

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<v Speaker 6>remain in US custody and we will continue to conduct

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<v Speaker 6>similar maritime interdiction actions and activities in the Pacific and

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<v Speaker 6>Indian Oceans against Iranian ships and vessels of the Dark Fleet.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think you ought to go there. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the Dark Fleet, come right back to the

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<v Speaker 1>US show. Welcome back to America. Hewett Eli Lake is

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<v Speaker 1>with the Free Press. He's the host of the Breaking

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<v Speaker 1>History podcast, and he, like me, are both fixated on Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Eli the Kellen Levitt announced today that Special Envoys Witcoff

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<v Speaker 1>and Kushner are going back to Islamabad. I feel bad

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<v Speaker 1>for those guys. I don't think anything good's going to

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<v Speaker 1>come out of that. I don't think Mehiti is going

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<v Speaker 1>to throw in his cards. He's a hardcore old guard

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<v Speaker 1>fought in the Big War eighty to eighty eight. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think there's any progress to be made here.

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<v Speaker 7>I do think that the regime is facing economic collapse

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<v Speaker 7>and the blockade of the blockade is probably going to

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<v Speaker 7>have an effect. So I think that that right there,

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't think I don't think they're feeling that

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<v Speaker 7>pressure yet. And I think you're correct that Vahiti represents

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<v Speaker 7>somebody who you know, he was part of the I

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<v Speaker 7>mean Bahdi back in the day was during that Iron

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<v Speaker 7>Iraq war. He was part of the faction that didn't

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<v Speaker 7>want to take the deal with Saddam Hussein. When Hamani

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<v Speaker 7>said it was like the drinking the chalice of poison.

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<v Speaker 7>He represented the people who want to continue fighting that war,

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<v Speaker 7>which was paid a horrible toll on the Iranian So

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<v Speaker 7>I would not expect anything like that to come from him.

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<v Speaker 7>But on the other hand, the way it was described

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<v Speaker 7>to me by people, in terms of understanding how the

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<v Speaker 7>leadership works, Bahdi is not does not have the loyalty

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<v Speaker 7>or it does not necessarily have the command, or he

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't the command, but it doesn't the loyalty of the

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<v Speaker 7>entire Revolutionary Guard Corps. He is rather the strongest chieftain

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<v Speaker 7>in that group. So there are other rivals to him,

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<v Speaker 7>but right now that he is like sort of on

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<v Speaker 7>this five person council, he's clearly the real power in

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<v Speaker 7>Iran right now. I don't think you're going to see

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<v Speaker 7>much yet, but that might change as the economic conditions worsen,

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<v Speaker 7>as they understand the full extent of their military defeat.

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<v Speaker 7>And even if nothing happens, I just think that the

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<v Speaker 7>United States has plenty of military options to open the

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<v Speaker 7>straight up her moves that and getting the remaining missiles

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<v Speaker 7>and other things that were on the target list are

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<v Speaker 7>military objectives. I think that's eminently doable. I think the

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<v Speaker 7>United States remains in a really good position.

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<v Speaker 1>So Eli, I talked to a senior official from Trump

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<v Speaker 1>one today and not Trump too, not in now, and

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<v Speaker 1>he told me a nuclear program requires three things. Expertise

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<v Speaker 1>and the Runtians have at least the muscle memory of expertise.

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<v Speaker 1>That they've lost a couple of dozen of their top scientists,

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<v Speaker 1>the technology that you can buy on the open market.

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<v Speaker 1>And number three, money and time, Money and time. We

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<v Speaker 1>have sieged three of their tankers at siege at sea

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<v Speaker 1>this month. I play General Okaine. That's two million barrels

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<v Speaker 1>of oil a grab, and we've done it three times

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<v Speaker 1>at sea. That forget the cargo ship, who knows what

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<v Speaker 1>was in it, but we got the oil. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to run on oil. The Hewett option is this, Wick

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<v Speaker 1>Coop and Kushner give them a list of the oil

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<v Speaker 1>facilities in Iraq, you know, one through thirty, and say

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to take out one of these each day,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna end with cart Island being in rubble.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do not give us dialing, enriched uranium and

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<v Speaker 1>inspection rights at Pickaxe Mountain and other places, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to leave you with any money. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about that? Just lay it out, here's our

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<v Speaker 1>target list. You can't stop us. They're all going to

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<v Speaker 1>be rubble. You will have no oil.

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<v Speaker 7>Well right now, I think if it's Fahiti calling the shots,

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<v Speaker 7>they probably would not accept it because I think they're

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<v Speaker 7>almost kind of living in I think Fahiti represents one

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<v Speaker 7>of the true believers. But again, part of the strategy

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<v Speaker 7>for something like that, which I think is actually pretty smart,

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<v Speaker 7>is that are we sure that everybody around Bahiti wants

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<v Speaker 7>to make that same decision exactly? And that's the key

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<v Speaker 7>is that you know the fracturing in that respect is

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<v Speaker 7>that is a good thing. I never understood the argument

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<v Speaker 7>that was made by some of the critics of the

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<v Speaker 7>war after the initial decapitation strikes isay, now you've got

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<v Speaker 7>an even more hard line regime. They've always been hardliners.

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<v Speaker 7>As you know, they killed they killed forty exactly right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>so the idea that you know, oh, we can't risk

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<v Speaker 7>it because someone might the next person might be even worse.

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<v Speaker 5>They're all in the category of horrible.

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<v Speaker 7>So I mean, at this point, I am I'm, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>I'm looking forward to the fracturing, and I think that

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<v Speaker 7>there will be more of it, and at some point,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I think there's going to be a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of different opportunities. And remember they still haven't turned the

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<v Speaker 7>Internet back on. The Iranian people are going to, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>enter into this at some point. I would love it

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<v Speaker 7>if we were things that we were, we could start

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<v Speaker 7>maybe doing to try to turn back on the Internet

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<v Speaker 7>or provide alternatives. I think that that technology exists, and

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<v Speaker 7>I don't exactly understand why that hasn't happened yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But in both you've got storchs in Israel and UAE.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is the UAE not building a big pipeline from

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<v Speaker 1>the UAE to Israel so that they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>ship anything. Why, yeah, there's not would be like.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a great question. I don't have an answer. I

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<v Speaker 7>should say, great question. I don't have an answer for

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<v Speaker 7>that right now. But one that's one issue is I

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<v Speaker 7>think that you know, if you build a pipeline, that's

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<v Speaker 7>another target. And the Iranians have the drones and we

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<v Speaker 7>maybe they don't have the drone defense, but the UAE

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<v Speaker 7>has been in the fight. I can tell you that.

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<v Speaker 7>And I can also say that I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>we'll see what happens with the Saudis. The Saudis are

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<v Speaker 7>right now, you know, very connected to the Pakistanis who

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<v Speaker 7>are hosting the negotiations, and they're their outreach to Turkey,

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<v Speaker 7>which I think is really troubling right now. But I

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<v Speaker 7>think the Amoradis, and I think at least parts of

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<v Speaker 7>this part of the Saudi royal family at least uh,

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<v Speaker 7>they're at a new strategic reality after this war, and

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<v Speaker 7>there will be there will be no option for the

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<v Speaker 7>Iranians to sort of rebuild that relationship until there's regime change.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's another strategic loss for Iran in this conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed what the Libyans up their oil production in

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<v Speaker 1>one month by a million barrels a day. And so

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<v Speaker 1>there are other places around the world to get oil.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as cheap. But we're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>at ninety dollars a barrel. We're going to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to seventy five, which is more than sixty. But the

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<v Speaker 1>world can absorb that. They can't absorb a nuclear Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you get rid of the Trump distortion

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<v Speaker 1>effect and the Net and Yahoo distortion effect, isn't this

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<v Speaker 1>clearly a win for the world.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm so glad you put it like that, Hugh.

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<v Speaker 5>It's become so frustrating to me.

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<v Speaker 7>Even if the Iranians manage for a period of time

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<v Speaker 7>to hold on to the straight of Hormuz a that

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<v Speaker 7>is we've talked about before, a depreciating asset, because there

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<v Speaker 7>will people will find alternatives yep to the straight up

0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.400
<v Speaker 7>woe moves and alternative sources. But the most important thing

0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:12.000
<v Speaker 7>is weighed against demolishing the vast majority of Iran's nuclear program,

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<v Speaker 7>its defense industry, the conventional ballistic missile shield that Rubio

0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:22.199
<v Speaker 7>has talked about, Weighed against all of that, is it

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<v Speaker 7>worth it? Yes, because we're the whole reason for this

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<v Speaker 7>entire war has been to stop these fanatics from getting

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<v Speaker 7>a nuclear weapon. And pretty I mean, in theory they

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<v Speaker 7>could start again. But we just wiped away thirty years

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<v Speaker 7>and half a trillion dollars worth of investment. And that

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<v Speaker 7>is a military accomplishment, and I can take it, in

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<v Speaker 7>my view absolutely a strategic accomplishment. And again someone can say, yeah,

0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.080
<v Speaker 7>theoretically they're going to be more determined than ever to

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<v Speaker 7>rebuild it, to which I say, then the United States

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<v Speaker 7>and Israel will be determined to knock that out as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, theoretical we really wetting up. Yeah, if we had

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<v Speaker 1>gone after Hitler in nineteen thirty seven or thirty eight

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.119
<v Speaker 1>when he took it Inland or Austria and the Aslish,

0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.639
<v Speaker 1>or even when he took over the Roar, theoretically that

0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.440
<v Speaker 1>might have led to a lot of heartburn, but he

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have had the Third Reich. I really don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Trump distortion effect. Last word to you, Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that what it is? The reason we can't say this.

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<v Speaker 7>I think some of it's that's Trump distortion effect. I

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<v Speaker 7>think the other part of it is that we just

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<v Speaker 7>have a generation of people of Western elites that are

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<v Speaker 7>completely disconnected from the military. I did not serve, but

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<v Speaker 7>when the Iraq War was going on, I went to

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<v Speaker 7>a rock several times and served with Americans there. That

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<v Speaker 7>was something that was a been valuable experience for me.

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<v Speaker 7>But so many have no idea what it means to

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<v Speaker 7>be in the military, what it means to quite a war.

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<v Speaker 1>And amen to that, you know, I like, we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for the breaking history. I had a lot of driving

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.919
<v Speaker 1>to do this weekend. And whatever you write in the

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<v Speaker 1>Free Press, thank you, Eli. I'll be right back and

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<v Speaker 1>Mat Continent. He is next on the show Welcome Back America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Hewitt. Matt Connetty is here for his Friday a

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<v Speaker 1>week in review with me. Matt, of course free expressions

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<v Speaker 1>columnist at the Wall Street Journal, head of Domestic Policy

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<v Speaker 1>Studies at the American Enterprise Institute, and Virginia elections analysts.

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<v Speaker 1>First question, Matt, given your Free Expressions column in the

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<v Speaker 1>Journal today, who has freer elections Iran or Virginians after

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<v Speaker 1>this map goes into effect.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I would say that the Republicans in Virginia won't

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<v Speaker 9>be feeling very enfranchised after this map goes into effect,

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<v Speaker 9>and certainly the population of Iran is not enfranchised. So

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<v Speaker 9>it's a hard call, good call, hard call. Still I'll

0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 9>still vote with the America in the end, but for freedom.

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<v Speaker 9>But nonetheless, this Virginia map is depressing to all those

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<v Speaker 9>who believe in fair representation because that's what really happened.

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<v Speaker 9>Virginia map that was six' Five Democrat, republican basically in

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.000
<v Speaker 9>line with the share of the vote that each party

0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:11.119
<v Speaker 9>gets every four. Years trump went about forty six percent

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.639
<v Speaker 9>of the vote last election in twenty twenty, four and

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<v Speaker 9>now you're going to attend to One Democrat republican, map

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<v Speaker 9>which means that the forty six percent Of republicans in

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<v Speaker 9>the state Of virginia will have one representative In. Congress

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<v Speaker 9>that is the definition of. Unfairness, Now, matt.

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<v Speaker 1>There are No republicans In. Massachusetts they're only thirty four

0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:36.720
<v Speaker 1>percent vote For President trump in twenty twenty. Four i've

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<v Speaker 1>always set redistricting done by the. Legislature it's a political mischief.

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Game just don't use, race And i'm okay with. It

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<v Speaker 1>but The virginians passed a constitutional amendment to prohibit in the.

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<v Speaker 1>State that's up to the states to, decide and, basically

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<v Speaker 1>The virginia legislature just rolled over. IT i Heard Ken kochinelli,

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<v Speaker 1>signing Former Attorney General virginia signing optimistic With Jake, tapper

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<v Speaker 1>But i'm not because this is a very radical legislature In.

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<v Speaker 1>RICHMOND i think they'll punish the State Supreme court if

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<v Speaker 1>they reverse the. Referendum do you have much hope for

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<v Speaker 1>the court.

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<v Speaker 9>CASE i think the only glimmer of HOPE i can

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<v Speaker 9>see in The Supreme court is that what the vote

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<v Speaker 9>On tuesday showed you is that this is not open and.

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<v Speaker 8>SHOT i, mean this.

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<v Speaker 9>Was a close, vote about fifty one forty, eight maybe

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<v Speaker 9>fifty two forty, eight three or four. Points the no

0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:32.560
<v Speaker 9>vote that is rejecting this unfair map was higher Than

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 9>republicans earned in last year's gubernatorial. Election it was higher

0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 9>Than President trump earned in twenty twenty four in the

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 9>state Of. Virginia and there might be some justices on

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:42.920
<v Speaker 9>The State Supreme court who look at that and, say

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<v Speaker 9>you know what if we do overturn the map because

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 9>the process violated all of these constitutional and statutory. Requirements

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<v Speaker 9>the blowback from the voters won't be that.

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<v Speaker 8>Much but as you, say.

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<v Speaker 9>They're going to be worried about the blowback from the

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<v Speaker 9>Radical democrats who now are in charge In, virginia AND

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<v Speaker 9>i think in the end they'll be more afraid of

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 9>the politicians than Actual virginia voters when they decide whether

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<v Speaker 9>or not to uphold this new and unfair.

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<v Speaker 1>Map Now Ron DeSantis has called a special. Session there

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<v Speaker 1>are twenty eight congressional, districts twenty or held By, republicans

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>eight By. DEMOCRATS i think you could go to Chech

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 1>ept And groc and, say draw me a map that

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<v Speaker 1>gets me twenty Eight republicans and then have them both

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<v Speaker 1>check each other's, work and that would hold up the constitutional.

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<v Speaker 1>Muster if The Supreme court throws Out section two of

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<v Speaker 1>The Voting Rights, act as is expected later this, month

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<v Speaker 1>do you Want DeSantis to do that or do you

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<v Speaker 1>want someone to call a halt to.

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<v Speaker 9>This, WELL i think after The virginia, Vote Governor DeSantis can, say,

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<v Speaker 9>look he's simply continuing a process and Redistricting florida if

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<v Speaker 9>he can find a way to do it and the

0:24:56.760 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 9>legislature approves of, it is the necessary response to what's

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<v Speaker 9>happening In. Virginia, unfortunately we're down this path now where

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 9>each party is retaliating against each. Other if it doesn't

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 9>happen In, florida and if The Supreme court decision you

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 9>mentioned doesn't go the way many expected, to which is

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 9>to say that these majority minority districts are misreadings or

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:26.439
<v Speaker 9>violations of The Voting Rights, act well then, paradoxically The

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 9>democrats could come out ahead slightly from this jerrymandering war

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:34.120
<v Speaker 9>we've been. Having SO i think that means That DeSantis

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.640
<v Speaker 9>should try to go to get some more seats out

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 9>of The florida state. DELEGATION i will say this, though

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 9>all of these, gerrymanders including the one In, virginia you,

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.679
<v Speaker 9>know they are very susceptible to waive elections that go

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 9>in a different. Direction and what we're seeing right now

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.399
<v Speaker 9>on The republican states, is you, know the fact is

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 9>The republicans have lost a lot of support From hispanic,

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 9>voters and that means that even these gerrymanders could go

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 9>and end up Electing. Democrats the same, thing by the,

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.959
<v Speaker 9>way could. Happen god, forbid if we have A democratic

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 9>president twenty thirty and a midterm election goes against that

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 9>president and elects a lot Of republicans well in these

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 9>districts that The Virginia State democrats of jerry. Mandered that

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 9>could blow up in their face as. Well so it's

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 9>a very dangerous game with the jerry, manders and unfortunately

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:24.439
<v Speaker 9>we're in this race to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bottom and the long game is that the census is

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<v Speaker 1>going to reward The south in twenty thirty two with

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<v Speaker 1>twelve to fifteen new, CDs and that means The democrats

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<v Speaker 1>are really. Screwt i'm kind of the about this because

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna lose that house.

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<v Speaker 8>Anyway But i'm right back.

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<v Speaker 1>With continety during the, break and he'll be back after

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<v Speaker 1>the break of Talk. Iran we're going to talk presidential

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<v Speaker 1>candidates on The republican side when we come back with big.

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<v Speaker 1>NEWS i am back With Matt continetti in its hypothetic old.

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<v Speaker 1>Time you have to actually listen to The Big Weekend pody

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<v Speaker 1>hear this. Part, matt the vice president is in the

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<v Speaker 1>position for The republican nomination in twenty twenty. Eight there's

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<v Speaker 1>no denying. It, however if there was sort of a

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>disqualification round where everybody not Named vance got in there

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<v Speaker 1>and did the, debate and you could See Glenn, youngkin

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<v Speaker 1>and you could See Doug, deucy and you could See Mike,

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>pompeio and you might See Rhonda. Santos if they could

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<v Speaker 1>come up with one person to run AGAINST, jd who

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>would your money be ON jd or that one? Person

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<v Speaker 1>And i'm Taking rubio off the.

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<v Speaker 9>Board, Okay so now you've put me in the position

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<v Speaker 9>of the liberal Theorist John. Rawls we have to have

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<v Speaker 9>a veil of ignorance right on. This and if we

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<v Speaker 9>create this new situation where it WAS jd against One

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<v Speaker 9>republican challenger for the twenty twenty eight, NOMINATION i think

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<v Speaker 9>that most the biggest threat TO, jd not Without rubio in,

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 9>there it would probably be someone Like Glenn, youngkin someone

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 9>with that political, Profile, southern someone who can also make

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<v Speaker 9>a case to independence and, suburbanites and someone who can

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<v Speaker 9>draw distinctions BETWEEN jd and JD's version of conservatism and

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 9>kind of the earlier forms of conservatism and, also by the,

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 9>way some trump conservative. Principles and As i'm talking right

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<v Speaker 9>now and, SAY i, said someone Like Clayton Glenn.

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<v Speaker 8>Younkin but actually.

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<v Speaker 9>The clearest contrast in a lot of ways and would

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 9>fit my geographic requirement as, well would Be Ted, cruz

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<v Speaker 9>who of course came in second To President trump in twenty.

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 9>Sixteen SO i might have to say cruise in the,

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<v Speaker 9>end but.

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<v Speaker 1>They would have to consolidate down to, one wouldn't. They

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>they'd have to have to get in a, room and you,

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>know Short straw wins or Short slaw.

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 9>Loses and that, was as you well, know that was

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<v Speaker 9>the problem in twenty. Sixteen that was the Reason Ted

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 9>cruz couldn't cross the finish line in first place in

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 9>twenty sixteen Against President trump was because he was still

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:08.479
<v Speaker 9>contending With rubio and With John kasick even towards the end.

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>There SO i don't know if you ever Read Axel rodd's,

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Memoir David Axelrodg's, Believer did you true? Believer it might

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>be a, believer, yeah as a fabulous. Believer and he

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>believes in the theory of the personality most unlike the

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>one that is in The White. House among The, republicans

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>which personality is most Unlike Donald trumps who might run

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>for the.

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<v Speaker 9>PRESIDENCY i Think youngkin is probably the most different From

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 9>trump in. Personality he has no sharp. Edges he always

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 9>is trying to reach consensus void. Conflict you, know it's

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 9>interesting that opposite effect That axelrod talks. About first TIME

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 9>i heard it but was From Chris, matthews The hardball

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<v Speaker 9>anchor FROM.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi we also Do.

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<v Speaker 9>Americans matthews told, me always elect for the person that they,

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 9>did unlike the previous. Occupant BUT i never really THINK

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 9>i thought of it in terms of primaries before, you

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 9>AND i actually think in the, primary what people, are

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 9>What republicans are going to want is someone to carry

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 9>on The trump, agenda but to be able to do

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 9>so in a way that can secure another term for

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 9>The republicans in The White, house knowing the dangers that

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 9>this country faces from a radical left Any man.

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<v Speaker 1>Party we're coming back on the network Standby Welcome back In.

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<v Speaker 1>America i'm, You Hugh hat joined By Matt continetti AS

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>i am Most. Fridays he is the head Of domestic

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Polity studies at The American Enterprise. Institute so also The

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Free expressions columnists at The Wall Street journal and The Thursday.

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>PANELIST i listened to him yesterday on the commentary podcast

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>So mad AS i was listening to your podcast And

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Jay pod goes back and forth on where he is

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>on the. WAR i think we've won the ward. DECIDEDLY

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>i think it's a strategic win that will Follow trump through.

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>History BUT i would end it this, way The hewet

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>plan Wi cooff And kushner on their way To islamabad right,

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Now i'd have a piece of, paper a target, sheet non.

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Exclusive just day, one we're going to hit this oil.

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Facility day, two we're gonna hit this. One day, three

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>all the way down to you, know Carg island will

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>be the last, day and we'll destroy. That we'll level.

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>That we're not going to occupy. It we're already picking

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>up their. Tankers we've picked up three of their tankers this.

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Week that's about six million barrels of. Oil so that's

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>a six hundred million dollar. Loss they need money to build,

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.239
<v Speaker 1>nukes AND i would let them, decide do you want

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>an oil industry or do you want the? Nuke what

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>do you think of The hewet.

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<v Speaker 8>PLAN i think it's a good.

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<v Speaker 9>Plan very interesting to me THAT Jd vance is not

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 9>headed Toward islamabad this. Weekend of, course The iranians didn't

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 9>want to continue talking With kushner And wikoff Because kushner

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:04.479
<v Speaker 9>And wikoff have been very resistant to The iranian attempt

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 9>to draw out these negotiations to gain financial benefit before

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 9>they have to deliver on any of their. Promises and

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 9>so here we're going to HAVE i, think another round

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 9>of kabuki conversations Between, raichi The iranian foreign, minister and

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 9>Then Jared kushner And Steve.

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 8>Wikoff so the question is what will? Happen?

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 9>Then the worst thing that could happen is we agree

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 9>to end the blockade and give sanctions relief to The

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 9>iranians without any real deliverables on their. PART i don't

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 9>think that's going to. Happen so then you have two.

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 9>Alternatives you have the resumption of the military campaign following

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 9>that Excellent hewitt target.

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 8>List i'd like to see that. LIST i bet it's

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 8>a great.

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 9>List or you have the status quo and either policy

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 9>resuming the military campaign, certainly but also the current.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 8>Policy the status quot policy.

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 9>Will exact increasing pressure on The iranian, regime and that's

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 9>what we need to continue to. Do we've made great,

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 9>strides accomplished, much but the final effort needs to be

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 9>in depriving this regime of its financial lines of. Support

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 9>and then showing that The United States, navy the three

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 9>carrier groups we now have in the, region can take the,

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 9>lead clear the strait UP harmus and create a new

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 9>lane of escort traffic so that it's never held hostage

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 9>by this terrorist.

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 8>Regime again that interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Question you're, right by the, way the target, list best,

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>list never been the better.

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 8>LIST i want to know this, list the perfect, list.

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Perfect, list gold play the. LIST i want to ask

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>about another one of your, Colleagues, ai did you ever

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>see the Movie big With Tom? Hanks everyone, Has i'm

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>just assuming you. Have have you Seen big many?

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 9>Times it's a, Classic so.

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 1>You know the fortune teller in the boot that knows

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>exactly what's going to. Happen, yes all, right that's, you

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>of all. Eleven would you walk by and put a

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>coin in the machine and ask, you of all, eleven

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>why we don't have pipelines FROM uae To haitha already under,

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>construction because it just seems to me pipelines are the.

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 9>Answer you, know, here that might be the one question

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 9>that you've all even cannot answer and probably wouldn't want.

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 8>To, YEAH i think it's. OBVIOUS i think it's.

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 9>Amazing that the world allowed itself to be put into

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 9>this situation fifty years of an approach to The iranian

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 9>regime that was de, escalatory that was our. Right we

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 9>would just want to avoid conflict with The iranian. Regime

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 9>we want to keep the oil. Flowing we'll put you,

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 9>know slightly under twenty percent of the global oil supply

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 9>through the straight Of, hermus will put twenty percent of

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 9>the world's fertilizer supply through the straight Of. Hermus who cares.

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 9>Well now we see why that was a huge strategic,

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 9>mistake AND i think it's important that the world knows.

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 5>That, So, yes why is this pipeline not?

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 9>There it's because people were invested in the status quo

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 9>of Allowing iran to continue to terrorize the, world to

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 9>continue its progress toward a nuclear, weapon to continue ITS icbm.

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.359
<v Speaker 9>Program and it's finally this, President President, trump.

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 8>Who said enough is.

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 9>Enough and that means short term, pain but the long

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 9>term gain of disarming The iranian, regime ending its nuclear,

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 9>program and setting the conditions where its eventual collapse will be.

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Historic, oh a strategic. Win BUT i think you Underestimate you've.

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 1>All i've never met, him which is WHY i mispronounced

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>his last. Name BUT i still think you want to

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>ask him the second question That i'd like to. Know

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>are there no? Roads are there no tanker? Trucks are

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>there no fertilizer trucks that can move the fertilizer to

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 1>A mediterranean? Port because it is all. Connected it's not

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>like there's you don't have to go over The strait

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>to deliver fertilizer to the.

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.879
<v Speaker 9>World, no you, know there are, alternatives AND i think

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 9>it's a matter of time of. REPRICING i think a

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 9>lot of the repricing of the energy supply is already

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 9>being done some of the other commodities that go through The.

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 9>Strait but the fundamental for, Me hugh is we cannot

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 9>knot allow hostile regimes to control the world's naval choke.

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 8>Points and that that.

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 9>Includes The, Gulf that includes The gulf Of aiden that

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 9>The huthis have been, terrorizing that includes The strait Of

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 9>hormuz and The Persian gulf That iran has shown it

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 9>doesn't care whether it blows up ships commercial, vessels it terrorizes.

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 9>Them and it also includes The Taiwan strait and The

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 9>strait Of. Malacca and so this is a wake up.

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 8>Call do you.

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Mind if we impoverish The iranian, PEOPLE i didn't want

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to do, it but if you, do destroy their oil,

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>infrastructure and it's going to be destroyed simply because there

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:02.760
<v Speaker 1>are capacity for storage right. Now when you stop, pumping

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>as The president tried to explain in The trumpian, way

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.720
<v Speaker 1>it screws up the whole. System the plumbing gets. Broken

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>do you worry about impoverishing The iranian. People they're not

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 1>getting the money, anyway SO i don't worry about. That

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.959
<v Speaker 1>did we lose Matt ranian? People, Yeah i'm hearing Newt

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.320
<v Speaker 1>can you hear? Me oh you're? Back you got one? Minute,

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 1>yeah you worry about it one.

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 9>Minute america didn't impoverish The iranian.

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 8>People The iranian government.

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 9>Did and that's that's the, truth and that's why we

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 9>can continue to exert this maximum. Pressure the, blockade interdite

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 9>the the kind of the are the veins of THE

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:45.399
<v Speaker 9>irgc economically and put the pressure on the regime so

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 9>that The iranian people have a new chance for a

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 9>new future and a more prosperous one as.

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Well who should get the money from the? Tankers we

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 1>did take three tankers victims Of iranian terror or the

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Strategic Petroleum. Ringer we lost them. Again that's because we

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>have a thunderstorm And Northern virginia has the infrastructure of Southwestern.

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Iran don't go Anywhere. America i'm, Here, hewett stay. Tuned

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<v Speaker 1>the editor the opinion pages at The Daily. Wire, BEN

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<v Speaker 1>pages at The Daily. Wire what do we call you

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<v Speaker 10>of a, pin. Notoe but, YES i completely. Understand, no

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<v Speaker 10>there's you, know one of the one of the ADVANTAGES

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<v Speaker 10>i and REALLY i actually miss it of the old

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<v Speaker 10>newspaper pages is that they kept your writers to a particular.

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<v Speaker 10>Count you have to meet that count in order to

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<v Speaker 10>of the things that you, know FRANKLY i miss about

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<v Speaker 10>the original version of X you did much better work

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<v Speaker 1>get a million views because it's. Serious And Mark dubbotz

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<v Speaker 1>i read.

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<v Speaker 10>That, yes, yeah and so. So BUT i just THINK

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<v Speaker 10>i just think that one of the things that is

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<v Speaker 10>good about restrictions when it comes to writing is that

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<v Speaker 10>far too many writers just are unwilling to kill their.

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<v Speaker 10>Darlings they, just you, know hold on to every word

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<v Speaker 10>as if it's a pearl scent from on.

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<v Speaker 1>High and, oh my Friend Mike duffy is just about

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<v Speaker 1>my columns THAT i wrote everything. Twice they were fine,

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<v Speaker 1>columns BUT i said the same thing twice every. Time

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<v Speaker 1>he was. Right so we'll just call you the commizzaar

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<v Speaker 1>of commentary at The Daily.

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<v Speaker 10>Wire sounds. WONDERFUL i accept that.

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<v Speaker 1>NOW i, will, not, however call you a draft. ANALYST

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>i listened to The Big ben podcast this. Week not

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>only Did lucas Nail sunny styles at, seven you actually

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Thought Carnel tait might drop, There so that means you

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know anything About Ohio state. FOOTBALL i was hoping

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>he would drop.

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<v Speaker 10>Hilarily, no, NO i WAS i was hoping hoping that

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 10>he would drop. There of course he didn't drop there

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<v Speaker 10>because everybody else understood how great of a player that he.

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<v Speaker 10>going to complain about that at.

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<v Speaker 1>All. Easy you should be very. Excited you very excited

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<v Speaker 1>what we got last year from THE ucla and.

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<v Speaker 10>Runbacker for one year and he was arguably the best

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 10>one in. Football.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah we had A sweassenger last. Year you Got

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 1>styles this. Year it turns an entire defense around to

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>have a guy in great.

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:04.919
<v Speaker 10>Drafts have had a great draft, THOUGH i, mean, like, OH.

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I Like spencer fan out last time we drafted An

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Outland trophy winner was two thousand and six And Joe.

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Thomas so don't you really want to just do sports

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>radio once a week with? Me we could just do

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>sports radio once a.

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 10>WEEK i would BE i would be more than happy

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 10>to do, That. Hugh it would actually SEE i mean

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 10>the funny thing about talking to the, folks who are you.

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 10>KNOW i, Mean i'm sure you do the same thing

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.319
<v Speaker 10>the folks who are off air At Fox news is

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 10>THAT i went in to do a commentary With John

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 10>roberts this, week and every and every conversation that we

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 10>had running up to the actual, segment which was not about,

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 10>sports was about who should be drafted and where.

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Now Is John john hang on to His canadian roots

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and root for THE cfl OR i.

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:53.240
<v Speaker 10>Can SO i can talk to him about THE, cfl

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 10>AND i can talk to him about, Hockey but he

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 10>gave zero attention to THE. Nfl, okay AND i.

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Have no knowledge about. Hockey SO i got READ i

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:02.879
<v Speaker 1>know a little bit about THE. Cfl, hey let's go

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.919
<v Speaker 1>to The hewitt plan for finishing the. WAR i think

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a big victory and that history will recognize it

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>as a big. Victory that The trump distortion effect and

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>The net And yahoo distortion effect are making smart people

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 1>say stupid. Things But i'd like to bring it to an.

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<v Speaker 1>End and so my plan, is you, Know woodkoff And

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 1>kushner on a plane To. ISLAMABAD i hope they have

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>a piece of paper on it with thirty targets day

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<v Speaker 1>one through, thirty and they're all oil, targets and they

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>simply do on day. One they're not. Exclusionary we can

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>hit other stuff like launchers and missiles and. Stuff but day,

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<v Speaker 1>one we're going to hit this oil field day to,

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<v Speaker 1>this day, three and it's gonna end with Carg. Island

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>on day, thirty we're gonna level it and you're going

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.399
<v Speaker 1>to be poor for a. Generation and that's what you

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>get for screwing. Around so pick your. Time what do

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you make of The hewitt?

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<v Speaker 10>Plan so you're going to make them an offer they can't.

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Refuse, yeah this is my, offer nothing but.

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 10>Pain don't. LOOK I i hope that they're smart enough

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 10>to do. That here's the thing THAT i think you

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 10>know you need to and you talk to a lot

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<v Speaker 10>more politicians THAN i. DO I i got a chance

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 10>to talk to some of These Capitol hill folks this

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 10>week WHEN i was doing A wired And live segment

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 10>THAT i swung into off the bench Because. Capt phillips was.

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 10>Sick but the thing was that was interesting to me

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 10>WAS i don't think these guys know how to talk about.

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 10>THIS i don't think they're used to talking about. It

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 10>remember last week when you were talking about them not

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 10>being able to vocalize achieved during this operation or anything

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 10>associated with. THAT i think that you need to be

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 10>you need to be addressing that. Too Mike johnson needs

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 10>to invite you to come and talk to the conference on,

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 10>that because those guys definitely don't know how to talk about.

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<v Speaker 10>It AND i think it's a real problem for them

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 10>because it's the number to, me that is the number

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<v Speaker 10>one point of how you're going to go into the

0:44:56.880 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 10>next six months arguing about what comes. Next you can't

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 10>nail that, down if you can't make the case for,

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:07.879
<v Speaker 10>it then you already are starting on your heels effectively

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:12.880
<v Speaker 10>by arguing essentially essentially with you, know years Of american

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 10>president when it comes to our beliefs about foreign.

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Policy and there's a reason why the first ten minutes

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 1>of patent triggers every progressive and every conservative loves. It

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:27.240
<v Speaker 1>it talks about winning and killing the, enemy and that's

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 1>what it's.

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 10>About, yeah and, look this should be something that they

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 10>Are this should be something that comes naturally to. THEM

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 10>i understand why it doesn't because they're not used to.

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 10>It they don't have they don't have any kind of

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 10>prescript for, it you, Know AND i Think, frankly their

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.400
<v Speaker 10>staff isn't used to. It but those are the things

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:50.399
<v Speaker 10>that are going to matter when it comes to making

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 10>an argument to The american, people and it could be

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 10>a huge difference in terms of the outcome that we

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:58.240
<v Speaker 10>see In. November if they're incapable of making that, Argument,

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 10>hugh if they're incapable of advocating for this and arguing

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 10>for it on the on the measures that they have,

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:08.880
<v Speaker 10>achieved they are going to be coming from behind the entire,

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 10>time and they could end up with a twenty to

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 10>twenty five, seat you, know bottom out in terms of

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:17.839
<v Speaker 10>something that's going to have to be climbed out of

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 10>over the coming. YEARS i don't want to see. THAT

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:21.720
<v Speaker 10>i know you don't want to see. That the country

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 10>doesn't want to see.

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 1>That, YEAH i thinks by twenty thirty, two with the new,

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>census all will be. Right i'm kind of resigned to

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 1>losing The house and we're gonna have three impeachments and

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to be, removed and history's going to

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Say Donald trump did what he wanted to do and

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 1>he got it. Done And i'm going to ask you

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>in the next.

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:41.320
<v Speaker 10>MEGUMENT i think it's only going to be. Three, yeah maybe.

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:43.839
<v Speaker 1>You're, Right, YEAH i got they got two a year

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>every six. MONTHS i am. Wrong and in segment, Three

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:48.840
<v Speaker 1>i'm going to ask you about we're in the eleventh.

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Era ear of The trump era begins with coming down the.

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Escalator what's the most important thing in The trump era thus?

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Far the worst development thus, far the best of worst

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Of trump and the best of worst Of. Dems but

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>before we get, there right, now The virginia map is

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 1>such a. Nightmare NOW i am also by the, WAY

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 1>i believe in. REDISTRICTING i think politicians are allowed to

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>screw up the. Maps massachusetts has No. Republicans that's just

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 1>good old fashioned. Politics but if you vote in a

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>constitutional wall against that. Stuff this ought to be struck.

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Down BUT i don't think The Virginia Supreme court has

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>part in the expression the stones to strike it. Down they're.

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>AFRAID i.

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 10>Completely, agree and this is in fact What i've been

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:34.400
<v Speaker 10>saying about. IT i think that The Supreme court In

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 10>virginia people need to understand. This this is a it's

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 10>a more political situation than The National Supreme. Court so

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 10>you're going to see them react to the politics of.

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.359
<v Speaker 10>This they kicked the can on it before because they

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 10>were worried about the outcome and they didn't want to

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 10>rule on it in. Advance and now they're stuck in

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 10>a position where on the merits every. Argument we ran two.

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 10>Pieces we ran a piece from the lead attorney on,

0:47:57.760 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 10>this and we ran a piece From Keng, guchinelli the

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 10>former attorney general at The Delia wire on. This THEY

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 10>i think they have the better of the. ARGUMENT i

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 10>don't see any, way, though that The Supreme court is

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 10>actually going to follow that. PATH i think that they're

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 10>going to rule, politically and that's going to end up

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 10>in a situation where we are stuck with this Ridiculous lobster.

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 10>Map the one thing THAT i will say is that you,

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 10>know a number of these, districts including The lobster by the,

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 10>way didn't necessarily go as favorably For democrats as they

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 10>thought they were going to. Go and that, that you,

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.800
<v Speaker 10>KNOW i think it could be a sign that maybe,

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 10>they you, know overstep their line a little. Bit you,

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 10>know maybe you.

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Can't overplay your. Hand so Should ron De santus answer

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>because they're twenty eight seats down, there Twenty republicans eight Or.

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Democrats you go to CHAT gpt AND groc and say

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 1>give me a map that wipes out The, democrats it

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:49.760
<v Speaker 1>will give it to. Him should?

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:53.359
<v Speaker 10>HE i think you. SHOULD i think you absolutely. Should why?

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 10>NOT i, mean you, KNOW i agree you you. YOU

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:59.319
<v Speaker 10>i THINK i have the same attitude that you. Do

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 10>this is just a fashion. Politics being competitive and trying

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:05.720
<v Speaker 10>to and try to nail this down is not something

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:08.400
<v Speaker 10>That i'm going to judge anybody. For so, LOOK i

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 10>think you. SHOULD i think you should put the trigger on.

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 10>It we've seen this was an absolutely ludicrous. Map it

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.760
<v Speaker 10>was NOT i mean When Gill stamberg is, like kend

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 10>to one seems a little, Extreme maybe let's do nine to,

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 10>two you. Know and then they didn't even have the willingness.

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>To do that because they're radically gift to pull out.

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 10>Everything, yes SO i.

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Want to go With Democrat party To lenda asked at

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the end of every single speech in The, senate in

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>The house from now Until, november don't go, Anywhere. America

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>i'm coming right back With Ben. Dominich go listen to

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>His Big ben, podcast because you'll learn That, Lucas tomlinson

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.760
<v Speaker 1>And Fox news knows how to draft and That ben

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 1>is not to be trusted because he was giving, hope

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>giving hopes flight to his hopes instead of staying grounded

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and what the commanders, needed like the old day of The.

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Commanders stay. Tuned w me right. Back i'm back With

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<v Speaker 1>Ben dominic. S. BEN i spent time yesterday With Molly.

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<v Speaker 1>Hemingway tell you about her brand new, Bestseller. Alito it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very fine, book and she has also agreed That

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<v Speaker 1>Justice alito isn't going to. RETIRE i don't Know Justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Alito ALL i know Of Justice thomas is he've been

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<v Speaker 1>my guest on the radio show. Once he's been a

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<v Speaker 1>guest At Chapman Law. SCHOOL i served on the combined

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<v Speaker 1>federal campaign for The district Of columbia with him decades.

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<v Speaker 1>Ago they're both wonderful men and extraordinary people and their.

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<v Speaker 1>Jurisprudence THOUGH i don't agree With Justice thomas, OFTEN i

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<v Speaker 1>understand his position about. Incorporation alito is the perfect. Justice

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<v Speaker 1>i'd like them both to retire BECAUSE i don't want

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<v Speaker 1>want to gamble with the six member. Court what do you, Think.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, PERSONALLY i would just say to, you you, KNOW

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<v Speaker 10>i think it's not ideal to be able to say

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<v Speaker 10>that two truly great justices in terms of their, careers

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<v Speaker 10>need to be need to, retire and need to be.

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<v Speaker 10>Replaced BUT i think you're. CORRECT i, mean the window

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<v Speaker 10>here is very, small and we have to be realistic

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<v Speaker 10>about these things, now especially considering the fact that The

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<v Speaker 10>Democratic party has signaled in every, way shape and form

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<v Speaker 10>that they intend to pack the court as soon as.

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<v Speaker 10>Possible SO i think you have to get that. DONE

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<v Speaker 10>i think you have to do, it as you, know

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<v Speaker 10>within this, window even understanding that with that comes a

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<v Speaker 10>loss of brain heft and and a lot more to

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<v Speaker 10>come from. It AND i, MEAN i don't know what

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<v Speaker 10>YOU i Actually i've never taken The Hugh qwitt poll

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<v Speaker 10>about who you have in mind to replace these. GENTLEMEN

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<v Speaker 10>i happen to be a long time friend and advocate

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<v Speaker 10>for One Jim, hoe WHO i, Think oh, right, great.

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<v Speaker 1>GREAT i Think i'm all at the bar checks a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of boxes And Justice thomas might step down if

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<v Speaker 1>you Knew i'm all the bar was coming. In but

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<v Speaker 1>you've Got Alison, Rushing you've got a. Whole BUT i

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<v Speaker 1>mean there are Twenty the second, question though we have one,

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<v Speaker 1>Minute molly countered, with, well do you want your Friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert he's not my. FRIEND i worked with. Him i've

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<v Speaker 1>known him for forty, years but he's a colleague in ic.

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<v Speaker 1>Him occasionally The Chief justice should step, down he's seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>ONE i, said absolutely. Not he's a great Chief. JUSTICE i,

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:15.719
<v Speaker 1>mean he's really a Great Chief. Justice do you want

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<v Speaker 1>him to retire To.

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<v Speaker 10>NO i. DON'T i actually think he's managed things quite.

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<v Speaker 10>EFFECTIVELY i, mean it's not and in PART i would

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<v Speaker 10>just suggest that The overton window is important, here and you,

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<v Speaker 10>know you want to have justices Replace alo And thomas

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<v Speaker 10>who are going to be able to do the work

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<v Speaker 10>that is needed on that. Court sometimes with The Chief

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<v Speaker 10>justice you need someone who can navigate things a little bit.

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<v Speaker 10>Differently there are ramifications for that that you. KNOW i still,

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<v Speaker 10>think you, KNOW i wish that there were more consequences

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<v Speaker 10>for everything that happened With. Dobbs but you, know when

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<v Speaker 10>it comes to The CHIEF i think he's, actually you,

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<v Speaker 10>know done a good job of figuring this.

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<v Speaker 1>Out he's. Brilliant and when he's WHEN i narrowed it

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<v Speaker 1>down With molly And book on, race there's nobody better

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 1>than getting rid of the awarding of penalties or the

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>awarding of benefits and punishments based on. Race there's no

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<v Speaker 1>one better on free. Speech he's just, uh he gets

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>this wrap because of The, obamacare but that was actually

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 1>correctly decided under constructional avoidance. Principle stay, Tuned, Ben i'll

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:20.160
<v Speaker 1>be right back With Ben dominis for the best and

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>worse of The trump era thus. Far welcome Back. America

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Hewett Ben, dominich who is the commissaurre of commentary

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<v Speaker 1>At The Daily, Wire Fox news contributor hosts Of The

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<v Speaker 1>Big Ben.

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<v Speaker 10>Pot there CAN i request music going?

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<v Speaker 1>Forward?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, yes, yeah, No i'd Love i'd love. Some i'd

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<v Speaker 10>love some more who in the in the mixed.

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<v Speaker 1>Way we'll do The Who's next all album. Long, So,

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<v Speaker 1>ben this question is is actually prompted by your discussion

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<v Speaker 1>of w on The Big Ben. POD i agree with.

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<v Speaker 1>You i've been along a long. Time he's my favorite

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:03.320
<v Speaker 1>president as a. Person he is the most, decent, loving,

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:09.479
<v Speaker 1>kind Ethical christian. Man AND i Think i'm not even

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:11.840
<v Speaker 1>sure he made the wrong. DECISION i might. HAVE i

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<v Speaker 1>think everyone would have made the same decision on the

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<v Speaker 1>bad knowledgy was given but the perfect guy for nine to,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and we're coming up on the twenty fifth, year

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<v Speaker 1>and then we had The obama, era and that's an

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:26.280
<v Speaker 1>era devoid of anything except sound and, noise representing. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>The Trump era begins in twenty fifteen with The. Escalator it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Ongoing it's going to be a fifteen year period Of

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<v Speaker 1>america that will be known as The Trump. Era what

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<v Speaker 1>is the best and worst development of The Trump? Era

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it might not have anything to do With. Trump SO

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<v Speaker 1>i think the.

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<v Speaker 10>Best development of The Trump era is a reorienting that

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<v Speaker 10>needed to happen regarding The Republican party and the coalition

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:54.200
<v Speaker 10>that they needed to. BECOME i think for years people

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 10>had been sort of going back and forth about trying

0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:02.280
<v Speaker 10>to make certain things. Work rodney, really to his, credit

0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:05.600
<v Speaker 10>did his best to try them to make that coalition.

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:09.279
<v Speaker 10>Work Donald trump transformed that, coalition AND i think that

0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 10>transformation is a positive. ONE i think it's very, good

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<v Speaker 10>AND i think it's going to lead to More republican

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<v Speaker 10>successes when it comes to the presidential. Politics the flip

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<v Speaker 10>side of that is that we have a more, toxic more,

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 10>villainous more vile environment when it comes to the expressions

0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:30.880
<v Speaker 10>of opinions THAN i have ever seen in my, life

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<v Speaker 10>and you. LIVED i, mean you are aware of The nick.

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 10>Scenario SO i feel like it's too much for me

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<v Speaker 10>to say it's never happened In.

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<v Speaker 8>America it's so.

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<v Speaker 1>Much worse Than. Nixon it's so much worse Than.

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<v Speaker 10>Nixon you, think, Okay so that actually vindicates something THAT i,

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 10>think Because i've been arguing that In washington with some

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.719
<v Speaker 10>of my younger, COLLEAGUES i think IT'S i think it's

0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:55.399
<v Speaker 10>much much. Worse AND i think that the simple fact

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:59.000
<v Speaker 10>is that that's not something that can be recovered from

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 10>via an. Election you, know it's not going to be

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:05.799
<v Speaker 10>something where you have a cycle and you get through, it.

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:09.520
<v Speaker 10>Okay Like it's just that is the aspect of The

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:12.920
<v Speaker 10>trump era THAT i think is absolutely the. Worst it

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:17.600
<v Speaker 10>takes normal, people and it incentivizes them to be, radical

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 10>to do crazy, things to say crazy, things and to

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 10>hate their. Neighbors AND i hate all of. That BUT

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:26.319
<v Speaker 10>i also think that's Not Donald trump's. FAULT i don't

0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 10>think that he did any of. THAT i don't know

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:29.719
<v Speaker 10>reaction from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Left, now let me talk to you about the clarity

0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:34.799
<v Speaker 1>that he. BROUGHT i think the best thing that he

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>ushered in was clarity everybody knows who everybody is and

0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 1>where they. Stand whether it's McCrone And starmer Or Tucker

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:49.600
<v Speaker 1>carlson And Candace, owen whether it Is John hick And

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:54.520
<v Speaker 1>looper Or Susan. Kallin everybody is out there in the

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 1>middle with The cleague lights, on defined by a thousand.

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Voye but in the, END i think essentially understood for

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 1>who they. Are AND i don't think we're misled about.

0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Anyone what do you think about?

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<v Speaker 10>THEM i think you miss the cold Where HUGH i

0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 10>appreciated the. Clarity that's where we're. At, NO i think

0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 10>you're completely. Right and look the other Thing i'll just

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 10>say about, this AND i mean it's one of these

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 10>areas where WHATEVER i compliment him for, it whatever anybody

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 10>compliments him for, it you, know you get backlash for.

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:34.919
<v Speaker 10>IT i appreciate having a president who's this. Funny i'm,

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 10>Yeah i'm in the business of. Journalism i'm in the

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 10>business of. MEDIA i appreciate having a president who actually

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 10>is entertaining and interesting and creates news himself simply from his,

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 10>comments you, Know and that's something that you, KNOW i

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 10>think we'll miss what he's gone BECAUSE i don't think

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 10>that there's going to be anybody who is.

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Entertaining don't you really run him to do The Ruthless.

0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.920
<v Speaker 1>PIKE i did it right along on The ruthless podcast.

0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Ones AND i said.

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<v Speaker 8>Them at the start and, CHEE i don't know.

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>That maybe they're. Afraid carolyn And steve are afraid because

0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 1>it would be the funniest episode in the history of The.

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Internet AND i did the ride a hood.

0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 10>OBVIOUSLY i, mean, Yes, Look i've Known josh And i've

0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 10>Known duncan for. Years you know that they will get

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 10>the best out of. Him he's got to do. IT

0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:23.720
<v Speaker 10>i MEAN I i to the extent THAT i can

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 10>help make that. Happen AND i MEAN i did. THERE

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 10>i did it two weeks three weeks. AGO i can't

0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:32.120
<v Speaker 10>remember which and, uh and it's still it's a phenomenal

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:34.360
<v Speaker 10>conversation always and it gets the best out of.

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:37.080
<v Speaker 1>You but were you? FUNNY i told them at the, Beginning,

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Look i'm not. Funny i've listened to your show for,

0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:41.960
<v Speaker 1>years AND i know what you're supposed to do when

0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you're ride. ALONG i can't Be Mary Catherine ham Or Ben.

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Dominic i'm not the right. Demo but they were nice to. Me,

0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh trump would own.

0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 10>It, absolutely and you, know and maybe maybe that's the

0:58:56.040 --> 0:59:00.080
<v Speaker 10>maybe that's the follow on. Career. NO i THINK i

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 10>think that what we can appreciate about This trump era

0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:06.680
<v Speaker 10>is that he has Reordered american politics in a way

0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 10>THAT i think is healthier for The republican. Coalition he's made,

0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:15.600
<v Speaker 10>IT i, think a stronger presidential year, coalition emphasis on presidential.

0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:18.520
<v Speaker 10>Year BUT i also think that he's someone who has

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:23.280
<v Speaker 10>unfortunately led to a toxicity that has made a lot

0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 10>of people be crazy who really need to just check.

0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:28.840
<v Speaker 10>Themselves all, right you just gave me an, Idea ben

0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 10>friends as you AND i.

0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah you just gave me an. Idea w the

0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:37.400
<v Speaker 1>podcast would not be. Interesting he's very nice and he's

0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>good on, interviews but he Wouldn't he wouldn't be. Funny

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:43.840
<v Speaker 1>trump the podcast would be. Fabulous number.

0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:44.919
<v Speaker 10>One number. One.

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely all you would need to do is, say, No

0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Roger goodell last, night what do you? Think and then

0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 1>lean back and get out of the.

0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:52.560
<v Speaker 10>Way, yeah.

0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Exactly he would tell you About rogers's entire life and

0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:59.640
<v Speaker 1>he knows. Everyone then you'd go back over To. Broadway

0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:01.720
<v Speaker 1>do you the favorite? Show and you get a history

1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Of broadway and you could bounce over to you, know

1:00:05.920 --> 1:00:08.240
<v Speaker 1>the heiti and he would tell you all about the.

1:00:08.280 --> 1:00:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Heating now he might spill more classified.

1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 10>Information the funniest the funniest things that he says are

1:00:13.960 --> 1:00:17.320
<v Speaker 10>typically off the. Record and and SO i think you,

1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:20.280
<v Speaker 10>know if you if he actually did the, PODCAST i

1:00:20.320 --> 1:00:22.760
<v Speaker 10>mean wait for a live stream because that would be.

1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:25.320
<v Speaker 8>INSANE i, okay.

1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Ltt you bring this, up the crazy guy on the

1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:32.280
<v Speaker 1>left who was up with Al Sai ed AND i

1:00:32.360 --> 1:00:35.640
<v Speaker 1>can't remember A Pat Piker Piker, yeah, OKAY i don't

1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:38.600
<v Speaker 1>know anything about this guy except he's an Anti semitic evil.

1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Person when did he become? Big so he.

1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:46.320
<v Speaker 10>Became big in part because he's just this guy who

1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:49.240
<v Speaker 10>sort of fits a then diagram of different aspects of

1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:52.720
<v Speaker 10>the dirt Bag, left especially with the death of some

1:00:52.760 --> 1:00:56.640
<v Speaker 10>of their older podcasts that went away one of the

1:00:56.960 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 10>name of one of WHICH i can't, name But dwayne

1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:01.360
<v Speaker 10>will tell you in the. Break but but the thing

1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:03.680
<v Speaker 10>THAT i think is really true about him is he

1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:07.760
<v Speaker 10>is a Completely he's a perfect example of how fake

1:01:07.840 --> 1:01:10.080
<v Speaker 10>The left. Is this is a guy who comes from

1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:13.240
<v Speaker 10>a wealthy. Family he literally had a pony when he

1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:16.160
<v Speaker 10>was growing, up not someone who is in any, Way,

1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:19.920
<v Speaker 10>yes literally you. Can i'm writing. It it's and the

1:01:19.960 --> 1:01:24.040
<v Speaker 10>whole point is like this is a perfect example of

1:01:24.480 --> 1:01:28.720
<v Speaker 10>like elite capitalist children who just decide that they hate their,

1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:30.960
<v Speaker 10>parents and so because of, that they're going to go

1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:32.680
<v Speaker 10>out there and, say, oh that's the weather.

1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Underground that's WHEN i was in high school and the

1:01:35.520 --> 1:01:38.080
<v Speaker 1>weather underground were blowing themselves, up and they were all

1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:40.720
<v Speaker 1>rich kids From Greenwich. Village one hundred.

1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:43.720
<v Speaker 10>Percent these are Not these are not people who are

1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:47.920
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