1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: stop sending your kids to college. 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The Charlie Kirk Show 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: my family, friends and viewers. 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: All right, Welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show. February nineteenth, 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, Blake. I woke up this morning and 24 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: I was like, whoo, Prince Andrew's been arrested. This is 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: gonna be great. We're gonna get him on all the 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: Pediphias stuff. It's a bad day for Andrews, hopefully only 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: one Andrew. Let's you know, a trendsly trend. A trends 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: is a trend. A tread is a trend. Well, okay, 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: let's hope it's a good day for this Andrew and 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: a bad day for Prince Andrew. So I thought that 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 2: we were finally I thought we were gonna finally blow 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: the doors open on this whole Epstein thing. I mean 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: literally is the first thing I looked at on my phone. 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 2: My eyes are blurry. I'm just waking up. And unfortunately 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with anything you know of sex, 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: trafficking of minors or any of the innuendo or the 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: salacious stuff. It looks like Prince Andrew was arrested for 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: forwarding documents. This, according to the BBC in twenty ten, 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: related to his work as I guess, let's see here. Yeah, 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: it's a British trade envoy, but they have a specific 41 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: title for him. Us UK Special Representative for International Trade 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: and Investment. So it looks like in twenty ten he 43 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: sent over documents to afford them over to Jeffrey Epstein, 44 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: documents that he obtained in his official duties as a 45 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: trade envoy that included some investment opportunities in gold in uranium. 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: And that's what they got him on. It's misconduct in 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: a public office. Now. 48 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: It's very It feels a lot like al the famous 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: al Capone thing where he was involved in murders and 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: bootlegging and every manner of crime, extortion, racketeering. And they 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: got him because he didn't pay income tax on his 52 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: illegal gains. And there's a lot of gations against Prince 53 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: Andrew of various levels of sealaciousness. 54 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: And he has been arrested. 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: For forwarding the email that is that is linked in 56 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: the New York Times. 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: Right, miss Condo. This is this is literally the text. 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: Of the email guys linked in New York Times. It 59 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 3: is just a forward of an email he received from 60 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: his assistant, a Meet Patel. Sir, Please find attached the 61 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: visit reports for Vietnam, Singapore, Hong Kong and Shenzen in 62 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: relation to your recent visit to Southeast Asia, thank you. 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: I mean, so he forwards those over to Jeffrey Epstein. 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: Apparently they included, like I said, golden uranium investment opportunities, 65 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: essentially insider trading, which on the one hand, does sort 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: of I think shed a little light on how Epstein 67 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: would make his money. Yes, he had inside sources. It's 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: essentially insider trading at this point if you get advanced 69 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: intel on official head of state visits or heads of state, 70 00:03:53,960 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: but official government agencies in this case visiting foreign country 71 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: getting intel on possible investments. Okay, so that's what it is. 72 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: King Charles So, the brother of Prince Andrew, has released 73 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: a statement. He says, I have learned with the deepest 74 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: concern the news about Andrew mount Baton Windsor, which is 75 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: a very interesting title. And there is a backstory to 76 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: why he's not called Prince Andrew or his role saying 77 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: that striptest titles, but he calls him Andrew Montbatten Windsor. 78 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: A suspicion of misconduct in public office. What now follows 79 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: is the full fare and proper process by which this 80 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: issue is investigated in the appropriate manner and by the 81 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: appropriate authorities. In this as I have said before, they 82 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: have our full and wholehearted support and cooperation. Let me 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: state clearly, the law must take its course as this 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: process continues. It would not be right for me to 85 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: comment further on this matter. Meanwhile, my family and I 86 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 2: will continue in our duty and service to you all. 87 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: Charles are all right? So this was then followed by 88 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: all of these headlines throw up five twenty five from 89 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: the Daily Mail, which is known to be a bit 90 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: what's the right word for the Daily Mail? 91 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: The Daily Mail is the best publication in the English language, Okay, 92 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: but they are somewhat they rush to judgment. They are headliner, 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: sensationalist in the best way. They've covered ilhan Omar the 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: incest story, or cheating on her husband. 95 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: They get photos of everything. So here's the way it works, 96 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: a little inside baseball for you watching at home. Because 97 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: I've dealt with these scoundrels, a lot of talk about me. No, 98 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: that's next segment. They basically put these headlines into multiple 99 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: they feed it out into the Internet and they have 100 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: ABCD testing and sometimes they use AI to create the 101 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: biggest clickbait. They want to know what you're going to 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: click on. So that's what Daily Mail does. That's their 103 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: whole thing. You will get a headline that has nothing 104 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: to do with the body of the article. But they 105 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: learned through actual cause and effect watching what you will 106 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: click on, what gets the most clickbait. That is the 107 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: whole game over Daily Mails, what headline can get you 108 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: to click on it? So what are they going to 109 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: use AI? So they go, Trump faces furious Epstein backlash 110 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: after Andrew detained. We have zero rest all right, So 111 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 2: this is so. Now you've got Thomas Massey, You've got 112 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: You've got Marjorie Taylor Green and a lot of others 113 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: out on social media saying, well, they got Prince Andrew, 114 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: why haven't you done anything? Pam Bondi and Donald Trump? 115 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: And so that is the case. But here's the here's 116 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: the crux. The assumption is the same assumption I made 117 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: this morning that they were gonna get that Andrew got 118 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: arrested on pedophilia, on sex trafficking minor something like this. 119 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: That's not at all the case. He got arrested on 120 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: a process charge for forwarding a document to Jeffery Epstein's 121 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: twenty ten related to his official guvernment kind. 122 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: Of maybe alleged insider trading sixteen years ago. Correct, Well, 123 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: so technically official misconduct is what it is, which is 124 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: a British offense. But I'm gonna you know, it's gonna 125 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: annoy a lot of people. But I've got to push 126 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: back on this, like as I like to I like 127 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: to read Michael Tracy on X because he gives a 128 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: lot of pushback and he points out I think it's 129 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: worth remembering, first of all, this is Britain. 130 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: Britain's the sort of. 131 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: Country where you get arrested for saying things people don't 132 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: like on social media about migrants. It is a country 133 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: that has a quite nineteen eighty four sque willingness to 134 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: gin up charges for political reasons. And so, yes, like 135 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: Prince Andrew looks very bad because he was a big 136 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: associate of Jeffrey Epstein and that's gross and he probably 137 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: did it because he wanted to sleep with young women. 138 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: But at the same time, the main allegations against him 139 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: came from Virginia Guffrey, which, as our guests the other 140 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: week said, yeah, j Beecher, she's a serial fabulous. 141 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: She lied about a lot of people. She's Virginia Guphrey. 142 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: For our audience's Sake is alleged to have been the 143 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: one that created this, this aura, this narrative about the 144 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: narrative Male List to the extent underage women were recruited. 145 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: She played a central role in that and encouraged them 146 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: to lie to get like there's a lot of negative 147 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: stuff there. So she's the source of a lot of 148 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: these allegations. His alleged relationship with her is the basis 149 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: for this. And yet in the UK where they met, 150 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: like she actually was of legal age according to British laws. Yeah, 151 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: and that is what drove this. And so they are 152 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: bringing this case because of big allegations, but I think 153 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: it's worth remembering what the origin of this is. And 154 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: then we go back to what the President himself said 155 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: last summer. A lot of people are going to be 156 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: getting tarred and hit for things that are running ahead 157 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: of what the facts are or where there's nothing proven. 158 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: And we're kind of seeing this year where they're just 159 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: they're howling, where are the arrests, were. 160 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: Arrests before they come up? And for Prince Andrews that 161 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 2: he was a dirty you know, dirty old man, dirty 162 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: old man, and you know he showed some really poor judgment. 163 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: What's funny. Also, though, is this clip from twenty fifteen 164 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: of President Trump has surfaced now, which I think is 165 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: just fantastic. Once again, Trump just has this this knack 166 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: of coming out unscathed. Five four, you raised the question 167 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: of Jeffrey I've stein in your remarks event and the 168 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: q A. I think you've got a problem. 169 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, but that island was really a cesspool. 170 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: There's no question about it. 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But what's interesting 197 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: and different I would say about the Prince Andrew situation 198 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: is two thoughts I want you to keep in your head. 199 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: At the same time, we have to be sophisticated consumers 200 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: of information. First thought, none of this would happen if 201 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: Pambondi had not released these documents in the first place. 202 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: So there's one The only reason this is happening is 203 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: because the UK officials have access to documents that were 204 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: released by the US Department of Justice. So that's the 205 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: thing you need to think of first. Secondly, we had 206 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: Mike Davis on and the earlier this week, and he 207 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: assured us that there are ongoing investigations into co conspirators. 208 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: Less Wexner was labeled as a co conspiracy conspiractor in 209 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: these documents, and who knows who else is being investigated. 210 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: My money is on Reied Hoffman. Reid Hoffman has lied 211 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: repeatedly about his associations with Jeffrey Epstein. He has funded 212 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: some of the most nefarious, sinister attempts of lawfare to 213 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: get Trump over and over and over again. Reed Hoffman 214 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: is a marked man, in my opinion, by the Department 215 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: of Justice. And thirdly, think of this. Prince Andrew is 216 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: no longer Prince Andrew. He's no longer his Royal Highness. 217 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: We call him that out of sort of a vestige 218 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: of the the royal past. But in twenty twenty two, 219 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: in January, Queen Elizabeth the Second stripped him of the 220 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: use of his style his Royal Highness hr age in 221 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: any official capacity. All of his military titles and royal 222 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: patronages were returned to the Queen, effectively removed from him. 223 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: This included honorary military appointments such as Colonel of the 224 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: Grenadier Guards, other UK titles like Honorary Air Commodore of 225 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: the Royal Air Force, various overseas honorary Colonel in Chief, roles, 226 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: royal patronages, his charity affiliations. And then in twenty twenty five, 227 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: so just last year, his brother King Charles removed the 228 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: title Prince, and that included Duke of York, Earl of 229 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: Iverness and Baron Kelly Hiley Killiele. So all of these 230 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: have been removed from him, and that was in October seventeenth, 231 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: and then again, like on I said, on October thirtieth, 232 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: they officially removed the titular dignity of Prince and that 233 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: is why he will now forever be known as Andrew 234 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 2: mount Boughton, Windsor. So. They have been on this Prince 235 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: Andrew train for a long time. But it's the first 236 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: arrest of a British royal, basically in living memory or 237 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: in recent. 238 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: I think I saw some more where they said it 239 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 3: was the first ever, and all I can remember is 240 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: that they once beheaded a case. 241 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: I was going to say, I saw that that talking 242 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: point as well and yeah, it's like okay, but at 243 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: least in modern history this time, I think it would be. 244 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: I think it would be a very big It would 245 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: be very unfortunate if one of the world's oldest monarchies 246 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: and one of its last really big monarchies were to 247 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: fall over something like this, which very much really it might. 248 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: There's a there is. 249 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: A republican movement in the UK to abolish it and 250 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: just retire the Royal Family. I think it's definitely a 251 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: movement in other countries. 252 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: You know. 253 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: A very funny thing is one of the biggest supports 254 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,239 Speaker 3: of the British Royal. 255 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: Family is not who you think. It's the Canadian left. 256 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 3: Left wingers in Canada like the British Royal Family because 257 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: they hate America and so they see having a Royal 258 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: family as something that makes Canada not America. Yeah, so, 259 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: like Justin Poole, like when King Charles visited Data's first 260 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: visit after becoming King, Justin Trudeau went all out for it. 261 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: He was a big fan of it. 262 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: But it is a distinguished group. I think it's easy 263 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: for us to dump it. I mean, we're America, We're 264 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: a republic. We don't have kings we shouldn't have kings, 265 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: but as conservatives we do respect and honor traditions, old things. 266 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: We realize they have value that's not always obvious. And 267 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: I think there is a real value in the fact 268 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: that there has been a king or Queen of England 269 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: in London for over a thousand years. That they are 270 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: the descendants of those people who were there during the Blitz, 271 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: who were there when Napoleon might have invaded, who were 272 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: there when the Armada was sailing for England, same line 273 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: of people. 274 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: Well, and listen, I'm a big fan of the British royals. 275 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: I think Western civilization need dads institutions that stand up 276 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: and that help guide the West back to a sense 277 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: of its tradition, of its identity. But listen, there are 278 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: things happening in the background at the DOJ that we 279 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: just need to keep our eyes on, and we need 280 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: to sort of say, listen, the wheels of justice turned 281 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: slowly sometimes, but they are happening, okay. And again I 282 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: would mention the name Reid Hoffman. You've seen this just 283 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: this morning, that Bill Gates has dropped out of a 284 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: speaking engagement due to increased scrutiny over the Epstein files. 285 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: Kathy Rumler has stepped down at Goldman Sachs because of 286 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: her connections to Jeffrey Epstein. It was worth mentioning that 287 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: she was Obama's longest serving White House council So the 288 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: DOJ's release of these documents obviously spurned on by Rocanna 289 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: and Thomas Massey, who have attempted to weaponize the release 290 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: of these documents for their own political ends. Remains unclear 291 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: what their ultimate intentions are here, But the whole point 292 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: is is that there is a very large faction of 293 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: people that want to use these documents to get Trump 294 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: all right, and time and time again. As we saw 295 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: in that twenty fifteen document or the video, Trump comes 296 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: out looking pretty darned good. He looks amazing. 297 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: Yes, but it's you know, I think we should again 298 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: be careful and to run. It's like, yes, Bill Gates 299 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: stepped aay from things, and Bill Gates should feel embarrassed. 300 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: He was very clearly. 301 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: Close with an individual who, regardless of whatever crimes he committed, 302 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: was a gross figure. It was just it's ugly that 303 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: he was so close with them, and we should feel 304 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: that same way with Reid and a bunch of others 305 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: that they felt no shame about endlessly associating with a 306 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: guy who basically clearly. 307 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: His life evolved with teenagers. 308 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: And many of them lied about this, but it's not Frankly, 309 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: it's not illegal to lie about who you're friends with. 310 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: It's legal to lie under oath to law enforcement. But 311 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: we don't know if he did. 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He's come back 343 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: and used to be with Breitbart covering all their digital stuff. 344 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: Now he's with Foundation for Freedom Online and Mike Ben's 345 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: over the good people there. So alum, we want to 346 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: bring you in, Welcome back. We want to bring you 347 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: in because there is this they're calling it a Bellweather 348 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 2: case in Los Angeles Superior Court, and it involves a 349 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: young woman, and I guess you know, a lot of 350 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: families are out there, A lot of families are linking 351 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: hands outside of the courthouse, and they are alleging that 352 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: social media is destroying their lives, getting them addicted, that 353 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: it's engineered to be addictive, and that it's causing suicidal ideation, 354 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: it's causing depression, and they say that it has been 355 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: intentionally designed this way. Alan breakdown the court case here, 356 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: what's being alleged, what are the defenses? Give us the 357 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: thirty thousand foot view. 358 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 5: Well, look, obviously social media is addictive in a way, 359 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 5: and there being complaints about addictive media for a long 360 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: time before social media. There were similar complaints about TV 361 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 5: and how that was ruining people's health. But I must 362 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 5: say this framing that social media could be a health 363 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 5: hazard is quite dangerous. And you know, asking asking social 364 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 5: media to be less addictive is asking them to make 365 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 5: their product less effective. They're an information product, and the 366 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 5: big winner at the end of the day if that 367 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 5: happens is going to be legacy media. So you always 368 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 5: have to look at the who stands to benefit from 369 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: this framing of social media as a health hazard. It's 370 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 5: other information services, especially the media companies that have been 371 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 5: displaced by social media. Now, social media addictiveness is a 372 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 5: real problem, and there are major concerns, genuine concerns about 373 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: the effect on children. But when you have to pay 374 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: attention to who's latching onto this cause, it's often progressive 375 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 5: governments like the UK that are committed to online censorship, 376 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 5: not because they care about children. The UK government, you know, 377 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 5: has embroiled in a scandal right now because one of 378 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 5: their top appointees, Peter Mandelson, the former US ambassador, was 379 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 5: connected to Jeffrey Epstein. But what they see in this agenda, 380 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: in this narrative about addictiveness and the harm that social 381 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 5: media can cause to children, a potential trojan horse for 382 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 5: what they actually want, which is political censorship, which is 383 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 5: punishing social media companies that don't ban who they don't like, 384 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 5: that don't ban their political opponent's. And then if you 385 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 5: look around the world, governments are latching onto any excuse 386 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 5: they can find. You know, the EU is launching a 387 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 5: probe to x over, you know, allegations about Grock being 388 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 5: used to generate deep fakes. The UK has done the 389 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 5: same thing. They even try to team up with Australia 390 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 5: and Canada to ban X over that issue. And why 391 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 5: they're going after X because that's what all the political 392 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 5: opponents are that's where their narratives are being challenged. So 393 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: when we think about the addictiveness issue, we have to 394 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 5: think not just about the issue itself, but who's championing 395 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 5: the cause and what the second order effects are going 396 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 5: to be of designating social media or public health has 397 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 5: it it will make it much easier to regulate and 398 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 5: much easier to regulate those algorithms that the establishment are 399 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 5: really quite afraid of, because those algorithms are how citizen 400 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 5: journalists can challenge mainstream media narratives. 401 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: Well, Ali, you're definitely right. 402 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: It's very clear the British government, the German government, the 403 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: French government, they want excuses to ban X, to find 404 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: X and presume other social media outlets that they are 405 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: out of their control. But I think it's also clearly 406 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: the case that a lot of these apps are designed 407 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 3: to be addictive in a way that clearly is damaging. 408 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: Young children's health. 409 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 3: I think the rise of Facebook, Instagram, other social media 410 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: is clearly correlated with young, especially teenage women's mental well 411 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: being going off a cliff. We can see that with 412 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: the rise of the smartphone, and it strikes me that 413 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: there must be some things that could be legally relevant 414 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: here that don't put you in danger of widespread censorship. 415 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: I think one of the most obvious is just doom scrolling, 416 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: the infinite scroll that a lot of these apps use 417 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: that clearly seems to be linked to addictive behavior. And 418 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: I don't see how banning that would immediately imperil speech. 419 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: And I just go back to you're almost certainly familiar 420 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: with this the famous Sean Parker comment all the way 421 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: back in twenty seventeen, where he basically just got on 422 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: a stage and said, we engineered the app to give 423 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: you a little dope, I mean hit every once in 424 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: a while, because if someone liked or commented on a 425 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: photo or a post or whatever, and it would get 426 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: you in a feedback loop and and you would be 427 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 3: hooked on it. 428 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: Apparently we had that we do. 429 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's difficult. 430 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's go ahead and play that Sean Parker clip. 431 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 6: You know, if the if the thought process that went 432 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 6: into building these applications, Facebook being the first of them 433 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 6: to really understand it. That thought process was all about, 434 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 6: how do we consume as much of your time and 435 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 6: conscious attention as possible, and that means that we need 436 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 6: to sort of give you a little dopamine hit every 437 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 6: once in a while because someone liked or commented on 438 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 6: a photo or a post or whatever, and that's going 439 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 6: to get you to contribute more content, and that's going 440 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 6: to get you, you know, more likes and comments. And 441 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 6: it's a it's a valid it's a social validation. 442 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 7: Feedback loop that that it's like a I mean, it's 443 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 7: exactly the kind of thing that a that a hacker 444 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 7: myself would come up with, because you're exploiting a vulnerability 445 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 7: in human psychology. And I just I think that we, 446 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 7: you know, we the inventors, creators, you know, and it's me, 447 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 7: it's Mark, it's the you know, Kevin, sisterm and Instagram, 448 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 7: it's all of these people understood this consciously and we 449 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 7: did it anyway. 450 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: That's super I mean, that's very chilling actually to watch 451 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 2: that they they intentionally engineered their platforms. To your point, 452 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: they have a financial incentive to do so alan to 453 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: make their products as addictive as possible to get you 454 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: to spend as much time on those apps as possible. 455 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: But this, this is hurting kids. So I guess the 456 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: question I have twofold question, what are the broader implications 457 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: if this lawsuit is successful? They're calling it a bell weather. 458 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: I can only imagine this is gonna if it's successful, 459 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 2: it's gonna result in billions of financial losses for these platforms. 460 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: But secondly, let's let's you can see the point that 461 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: we would like to see some guardrails on these apps. 462 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: What would be a positive outcome? 463 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 5: Well, I would always want to look at who's in 464 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 5: charge of the regulations and who's in charge of the 465 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 5: guard rails rather than what they necessarily are. I think 466 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 5: conservatives really have to get involved and take charge of 467 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 5: the child's safety agenda, much like Adam Candee did when 468 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 5: he was campaigning for age of verification laws. Is now 469 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 5: that in the Trump administration NTIA Because the problem is 470 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 5: when you let progressives take on the child's safety agenda, 471 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 5: they're just going to use it as a smoke screen 472 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 5: for political censorship. We've seen this totally so many times before, 473 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 5: and it's a genuinely difficult issue because you know, social 474 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 5: media apps are addictive, and they're particularly addictive for kids 475 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 5: when you know their brains are still developing. But you 476 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 5: look at what foreign governments are doing, like the UK, France, Spain, 477 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 5: many other countries, they're simultaneously trying to ban social media 478 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 5: for kids, just a blanket ban, while also trying to 479 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 5: lower the voting age to sixty. So what they want 480 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 5: really and you see the you see the end goal here. 481 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 5: They want a voting demographic that's a power to vote, 482 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 5: but also doesn't have access to the social media platforms 483 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 5: where mainstream pro government narratives might be challenged, where they 484 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 5: might encounter information that the government and their allied NGOs 485 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 5: and civil society organizations and mainstream media roomists don't want 486 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 5: to see. So that that is the real danger. So 487 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 5: when we're trying to protect kids from addictive social media, 488 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 5: we also have to think about how can we make 489 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 5: sure they still have access to that, to that independent 490 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 5: media ecosystem that exists on social media and that governments 491 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 5: around the world are working so hard and just completely 492 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: shut down because say, the same technology that makes social 493 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 5: media addictive, that causes engagement, is the same technology that 494 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 5: allows citizen journalists to go viral. That is the technology 495 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 5: that governments around the world are so afraid of, the 496 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 5: same technology that allows as a random person to make 497 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 5: a post, get millions of views and you know, share 498 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 5: information that the media doesn't want to be shared, that 499 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 5: NGOs don't want to see shared, that governments don't want 500 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 5: to see shared. So that's that's the balance you have 501 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 5: to strike, and it's a very difficult balance to strike, 502 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 5: and we have to be constantly aware of these organizations 503 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 5: that have a have an agenda that they're not telling 504 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: you about when they talk about addictiveness and the left things. 505 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 5: You know, you know, Drag Drag, Queen Story Hour is 506 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 5: appropriate for children. You know, they think gay pride parades 507 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 5: are appropriate for children. They think gender reassignment surgery is 508 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 5: appropriate for children. So we should not take any concerns 509 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 5: coming from left wing progressives about the dangers of social 510 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 5: media to children and child welfare seriously. They don't really 511 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 5: care about that issue. They care about political control. They 512 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 5: care about control of the Internet and social media platforms, 513 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 5: and that is the danger here. 514 00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: It's hugely tough. 515 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 3: I will say, if you look at what they auto 516 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 3: feed to children on YouTube, if you make a new 517 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: child's account, you definitely start worrying about more, possibly some 518 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 3: need for regulation. 519 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: But thank you allum. Mike Lindell and My Pillow employees 520 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: want to thank you for your great support this past year, 521 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 2: and they're looking to make twenty twenty six the best 522 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 2: year yet. 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President 541 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: Trump is saying that he is going to make up 542 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: his mind a final decision about a strike on Iran 543 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: within the next ten days, but we are told that 544 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: he is yet to make his final decision. JD. Vance 545 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: is simultaneously warning Iran, saying this is deadly serious and 546 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: they better come to the table. So this is ongoing 547 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: conversations that are happening in Iran. Meanwhile, President Trump is 548 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: saying that he has yet to make up his mind. 549 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: This all echoes very clearly what we saw in the 550 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: twelve day war, where Trump said I'm going to make 551 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: up my mind the next two weeks. 552 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: I feel when I saw that headline all the side 553 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: within the next ten days, my immediate thought was he 554 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: has already decided, frankly, because that's what he did last time. 555 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: And there's this element you're gonna decide within the next 556 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 3: ten days. Well, okay, you reach day ten and you 557 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: kind of know if he's decided by then, if he 558 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: hasn't struck it, and then you kind of regress back 559 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: from there. It's it's such a strange thing to announce. 560 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: It feels like a very Trumpian tactic. It's saber rattling. 561 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: It's sort of saying, listen, if past his prologue, you 562 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: know what I chose to do that time, I did strike, 563 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: and you know I'm serious about this strike. 564 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and play. President Trump. He spoke about 565 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: iron just this morning, five thirty. 566 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 4: Eight our countries. Nobody could have signed. You would have 567 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: had that threat. Nobody could have had. You couldn't had 568 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 4: peace in the Middle East. So now we may have 569 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 4: to take it a step further, or we may not. 570 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 4: Maybe we're gonna make a deal. You're gonna be finding 571 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 4: out over the next probably ten days, or. 572 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 3: It could be even you know, as you say, they 573 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: remember what happened last time. When they hear ten days, 574 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: Iran should be hearing. The planes are literally taking off 575 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: right now, and you have twelve hours, yeah, to decide 576 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: continues five point thirty. 577 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: Nine hours, the time for Iran to join us on 578 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 4: a path that will complete what we're doing. And if 579 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 4: they join us, that'll be great. If they don't join us, 580 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 4: that'll be great too. But it'll be a very different path. 581 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: They cannot continue to threaten the stability of the entire region, 582 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 4: and they must make a deal or if that doesn't happen, 583 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: I maybe can understand if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, 584 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 4: but bad things will happen, all right. 585 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: So again, this is very Trump. If they don't join us, 586 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: that'll be good too. So here's here's things we know. 587 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: Let's separate fact from fiction here. We know that there 588 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: has been a very serious and significant build up in 589 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 2: recent days of military assets in the region, and this 590 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: would include air and naval assets in the Middle East. 591 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: But insider sources in the White House have told multiple 592 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: outlets that Trump is privately argued both for and against 593 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: military action, and he's pulling advisors and allies on what 594 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: the best course of action is. Now here's the insider 595 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: scoop is that there are significant voices within the White 596 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: House that are against military action. They're against foreign intervention. 597 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: They stand firmly on the America first side, saying we 598 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: don't want to invade Iran. We do not want a 599 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: kinetic military strike in Iran. There are other voices that 600 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: are very very much chomping at the bit to do so. 601 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: They see this as the one opportunity with the uprising, 602 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: the organic uprising of protesters in the streets, to take 603 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: out the mullus, as Sean Hannity would say, a mullus. 604 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: So you've got competing factions within the White House. You've 605 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 2: got the Hawks, and you've got the you got the Doves. 606 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: It's like I said yesterday, I think what could be 607 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: tilting them is we have had several of these escalations 608 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 3: over the past year. Mostly President Trump has pushed toward peace. 609 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: But where they have done things, they did the strike 610 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 3: on Iran, it was limited, it was successful. They did 611 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 3: the raid in Benazuela, it was limited, it was very successful. 612 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: And we had these reports that President Trump was asking 613 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 3: for military operations that were like limited in scope, limited 614 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: in duration, that had a very clear cut thing. And 615 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: so I I think we agree Charlie did not want 616 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: worth Iran. We are very skeptical of that. But what 617 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: we have seen a pattern from the President is, in 618 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: comparison to prior administrations, he is very resistant to scope creep. 619 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: He's very resistant to open ended missions. And so I 620 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 3: think I think the President would be wise enough to 621 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 3: say we don't want a bunch of troops occupying Iran. 622 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: We don't want troops opting into. 623 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: Going to telegraph his moves. Though he won't he won't. 624 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: What we can tell you is we can reased on 625 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: the assets that have been moved into the region. It 626 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: does not look like a ground force is part of 627 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: the equation right now. It would be. 628 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: What we are getting is we're getting the resources for 629 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: a much larger air campaign than we've seen before that 630 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: you have there's any all these F twenty two fighters, 631 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: So that's a bunch of fighters who could shoot down 632 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: every jet that goes into the sky that they could 633 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 3: send out after sending enough bombers that you could actually 634 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 3: you're not just striking nuclear plants. You're hitting every military base, 635 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 3: You're hitting every city. And I presume if that happens, 636 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: the intent would be you bomb them until the government 637 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: agrees to leave power. Now can that be done? If 638 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 3: they are adamant about refusing to do so? How long 639 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: would it go on? That is where it becomes a 640 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 3: stickier question. How many how much resources are we willing 641 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: to invest in toppling a government on the far side 642 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: of the world, And politically, if we do it. Even 643 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: if it's successful, will they make the case that this 644 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 3: is a good use of America's time, that it's justified. 645 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: And I feel, even in comparison to last summer, that 646 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 3: might be the biggest challenge for the administration. If we 647 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 3: were to go to war with Iran tonight, I think 648 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: most Americans would be asking what had prompted it? 649 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so's we'll sum it up here. It is a 650 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: political mess for the administration to go into the Middle East. 651 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: It is much trickier from a polling standpoint, from a 652 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: grassroots support standpoint, than actions in Venezuela. I understand the 653 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: opportunity that has been presented by this popular uprising against 654 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: the Mullahs in Iran, and I understand the just the 655 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: carnage that the regime has exacted upon the population of Iran. However, 656 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 2: this is the Middle East. Regime change is always messier 657 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: than you anticipate, and you at some point you have 658 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: to ask the question why why now? Is it just 659 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: because Lindsay Graham, Lady Graham, is you know, working his magic, 660 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: his charms in the ear of the president or what 661 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 2: is the deeper incentive? Now? The deeper incentive President Truble 662 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: say is to ensure that Iran does not have a 663 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 2: nuclear weapon. Well, then if that is your incentive, then 664 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 2: what's going on with the B two strikes that happened 665 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 2: last summer? Where those effective or where those not effective? 666 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 3: Let's and it's you have to remember for some people 667 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 3: they see this as maybe their last opportunity to get 668 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 3: a regime change in Iran. You always have to be 669 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 3: wary of that. Charlie had a lot of thoughts on this. 670 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 3: We talked about it a lot. This is one of 671 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 3: his tweets five fifty eight. This is back in twenty nineteen. 672 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 3: He said, lots of rumblings we might be preparing a 673 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 3: ground war with Iran. This would be a massive mistake. Sanctions, 674 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: preventing funding, canceling Iran deal are all strategic good moves, 675 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 3: but another ground war with US troops is not the 676 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 3: answer and the endless senseless wars. I think that ground 677 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 3: troops line is the key one, and I think that 678 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: would be a bright line for the President that I 679 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 3: think he'll be wise enough not to. 680 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's I think that I think most 681 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: of us feel assured of that. The question is how 682 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 2: this is the largest build up since two thousand and three, 683 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: and so, I mean, the voters of all the polling 684 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: says we're desperate for domestic reform and domestic focus. I 685 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: hope we can do that. For more on many of 686 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: these stories and news you can trust, go to Charlikirk 687 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: dot com