WEBVTT - Timeless Wisdom: Why Pray?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for coming. I must tell you I was

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<v Speaker 2>stunned to see all the cars in Los Angeles. If

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<v Speaker 2>it goes under seventy, they cancel the lecture. To see

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<v Speaker 2>this number of people show up on a miserable day

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<v Speaker 2>is shows that, if nothing else, you build part of

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<v Speaker 2>your souls in the east.

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<v Speaker 3>But I really was, I was quite taken.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it would be basically the Rabbi, candor officers.

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<v Speaker 3>And I this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am very delighted to see all of you,

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<v Speaker 2>and do wish you wish about you alone? Just one,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I must tell you what doctor a

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<v Speaker 2>goal that that was a very interesting introduction. To keep

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<v Speaker 2>me awake through an introduction to me is an achievement

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<v Speaker 2>having heard a few, and I appreciated that you took

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<v Speaker 2>the time to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>One slight amendment.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to make the case last night for more

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<v Speaker 2>than the ten commandments. Just want to just want to

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be relieved to know that that got through,

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<v Speaker 2>or I would go back to Los Angeles a little

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<v Speaker 2>disconcerted that only ten that I had left that impression.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I am curious talking about that. How

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<v Speaker 2>many of you, And you have no reason to fid me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am curious. How many of you who were

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<v Speaker 2>here last night did in fact not turn on your.

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<v Speaker 3>Radio in the car when you went home? Wow? Did

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<v Speaker 3>you see that? That is question of those of you

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<v Speaker 3>who did in fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Raise your hand, which is the great majority, how many

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<v Speaker 2>did find it a different experience as a result, about

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<v Speaker 2>half of you, So for half it was not. It

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<v Speaker 2>didn't mean anything either way. All right, keep trying.

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<v Speaker 3>It, I do. I mean, give it, give it a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Of weeks, three four weeks, and see c indeed, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate the fact that you gave it a try.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I can ask. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>What's interesting? Once again, Rabbi Maler asked me to work hard,

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<v Speaker 2>give a speech I never gave in my life, which

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<v Speaker 2>in Jewish life that is now reaching a point of

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<v Speaker 2>greater difficulty. I have exhausted quite a number of topics,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least exhausted as a poor word. They're never exhaustible,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have certainly devoted a lot of thinking to them,

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<v Speaker 2>or a lot of speaking. Why pray. It's ironic that

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<v Speaker 2>I should be giving it now. I actually should have

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<v Speaker 2>given it before you prayed, now that I think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>But hopefully the words will last till the next time

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<v Speaker 2>you pray.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say one other word about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Rabbi Mahler has asked me to speak on my weakest

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<v Speaker 2>area in Jewish life.

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<v Speaker 3>However, However, there is a however here.

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<v Speaker 2>I have found in my life either this was God's

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<v Speaker 2>will and I mean that very sincerely, or just the

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<v Speaker 2>way fate would have it.

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<v Speaker 3>My lack of instinctive religiosity.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a major reason that I have been able to

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<v Speaker 2>be as persuasive as I am to the very very

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<v Speaker 2>many Jews and non Jews for that matter, but in

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<v Speaker 2>a different way, with who are also very skeptical and

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<v Speaker 2>not inherently religious. See if faith and prayer, religiosity spirituality

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<v Speaker 2>came to me easily came to me naturally, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I would be a particularly good lecturer on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the very fact that I have had to struggle

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<v Speaker 2>every minute of the way in my own Judaism and

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<v Speaker 2>my own religiosity from my childhood to this moment. That

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<v Speaker 2>has made me capable of addressing the great number of

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<v Speaker 2>Jews who also struggle. See, if it came to me naturally,

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<v Speaker 2>then I wouldn't know what to say to you, folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I feel it, I believe it, and I wish

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<v Speaker 3>you did and have a great day, and nobody would

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<v Speaker 3>be nobody would be affected.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why, ironically, the fact that prayer is so

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<v Speaker 2>difficult for me, it's good that I'm speaking on it

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<v Speaker 2>because while it does, I also deeply believe in its importance.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's an important preamble to my thoughts on why pray?

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm answering this question primarily as a Jew. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not a generic why prayer, even though this would

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<v Speaker 2>be of relevance in many of the areas to non

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<v Speaker 2>Jews as well, but I am specifically. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>very specifically Jewish response. As usual, every talk I have

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<v Speaker 2>given in my life is numbered. One of the nice

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<v Speaker 2>things about that is is at the end I can

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<v Speaker 2>summarize it for you, and if you fall asleep during

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<v Speaker 2>one of the points, you know you only miss that point.

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<v Speaker 2>So there are many advantages in talking in a numbered fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>So I begin by offering the well not begin it is,

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<v Speaker 2>I list for you four types of prayer, and in

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<v Speaker 2>that way you will appreciate what I believe the importance

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<v Speaker 2>of prayer is. Before I do, I have to say

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<v Speaker 2>the one overriding philosophical view I have of prayer, overwhelmingly,

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<v Speaker 2>the purpose of Jewish prayer is to affect you, not God.

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<v Speaker 2>The moment you realize that you are open to taking

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<v Speaker 2>it much more seriously if you are a skeptic, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what most Jews are, I cannot over emphasize this point.

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<v Speaker 2>The purpose of Jewish prayer is to affect the person

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<v Speaker 2>making the prayer, not so much God. When you realize that,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, all of a sudden, hey, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have to affect me. When do I get

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to affect my soul? I affect my body,

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<v Speaker 2>when I work out, when I eat. When do I

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<v Speaker 2>affect my soul? If you think of prayer as how

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<v Speaker 2>to affect your soul, your inner jewishness, your inner religiosity,

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<v Speaker 2>and your spirit, makes a great.

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<v Speaker 3>Deal more.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason that many, and I would say most Jews

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<v Speaker 2>have very serious problems with prayer is because when they

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<v Speaker 2>think of the word pray, it is virtually synonymous with request.

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<v Speaker 3>And I will show.

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<v Speaker 2>You how that plays almost no role at all in

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish prayer, almost none at all. It's remarkable the proof

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<v Speaker 2>that it to pray in Judaism is to affect you

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<v Speaker 2>and non God is the verb the Hebrew word to pray,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you know any other language, Latin language is Slavic, Semitic.

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<v Speaker 2>Virtually every language has this type of verb, except unfortunately English.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called a reflexive verb.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know Spanish or you know French, you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, when you say I wash my hands, literally

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<v Speaker 2>you say I wash myself the hands. The word in

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<v Speaker 2>frenchis si lave to wash oneself. If there's any verb

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<v Speaker 2>you would never expect to be reflexive, in other words,

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<v Speaker 2>coming back upon the doer, like I washed myself, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be to pray. After all, the most obvious assumption

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<v Speaker 2>is you pray outwardly, You pray towards something, you pray

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<v Speaker 2>to God. In Judaism, le hit palel is the word

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<v Speaker 2>to pray, and it is a reflexive verb, meaning you

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<v Speaker 2>are doing something to yourself. You are pallawing to yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>What does palal mean? To examine or to judge? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what the Hebrew word to pray literally means

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<v Speaker 2>to judge or to examine oneself? Nothing whatsoever to do

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<v Speaker 2>with prayer, as it is commonly understood when we use

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<v Speaker 2>the English term, which we have taken from Christianity, English

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<v Speaker 2>being a Christian language more or less, which is not

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<v Speaker 2>in any way a pejorative.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a fact. But if you'd say it in Hebrew,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go meet palel and knew Hebrew? Truly? Well you go, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go examine ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>What a difference. It's almost unconnected to what you normally

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<v Speaker 2>assume prayer is. Okay, that's the first and most important point. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the four types of prayer, the first and rarest in

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<v Speaker 2>Judaism is the one that you are most you most

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<v Speaker 2>associate with prayer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's petitionary prayer. Oh, please God do the following from

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<v Speaker 3>heal my my mother who was ill, to heal me

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<v Speaker 3>who was ill, to have our team win an important game.

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<v Speaker 3>It would run that gamut.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, This, in Judaism and in pure logic, is a

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<v Speaker 2>very very morally problematic form of prayer and will. I

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<v Speaker 2>will give you an example. In fact, I gave it

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<v Speaker 2>on the radio during the fires recently in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>You're driving down the block of your where your home

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<v Speaker 2>is located, and you see on your side a house

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<v Speaker 2>is on fire. You instinctively mumble, oh God, let it

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<v Speaker 2>not be my house. You have just prayed that at

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<v Speaker 2>your neighbor's house be on fire. There is no other

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<v Speaker 2>possible way to interpret that prayer. Oh God, let it

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<v Speaker 2>not be my house me since there is a house

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<v Speaker 2>on fire, Oh God, let it be the smiths, may

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<v Speaker 2>their house burn down? Amen, that is what you are saying.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a very serious problem. Petitionary prayer. I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you another one. Your daughter's getting married at an outdoor wedding,

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<v Speaker 2>and you pray to God that had not rain. But

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<v Speaker 2>what if the city needs rain? What if the farmer

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<v Speaker 2>needs rain? What if they're having a special rain festival.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's gods supposed to listen to the farmer or you? Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to the even more obvious one, or more

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<v Speaker 2>if you will difficult one. Oh God, please heal my mother.

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<v Speaker 2>But your mother is sharing a room with another woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Equally virtuous is your mother. But she has no children,

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<v Speaker 2>Should God pray your Should God heal your mother before

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<v Speaker 2>the woman who has no children and therefore nobody to

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<v Speaker 2>pray for her her husband died or she was never married.

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<v Speaker 2>Very problematic. Petitionary prayer is very problematic. I have always

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<v Speaker 2>felt that it's problematic in another way. Judaism, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>legislates you may not pray for what's already done. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>your wife is pregnant. You're pregnant, and you may not pray,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh let it be we really want a girl, we

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<v Speaker 2>really want a boy. Can't It's already been decided by

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish law. You can't even make that prayer. It's called superstition.

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<v Speaker 2>It's which craft almost because it's already been done.

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<v Speaker 3>God isn't going to change nature.

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<v Speaker 2>It's already been decided at the moment of conception. So

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<v Speaker 2>the whole notion of oh God, please do the following

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<v Speaker 2>for this individual is a problematic notion.

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<v Speaker 3>Either it's already been done, in which case God can't

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<v Speaker 3>or will refuses to do anything, or you have the

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<v Speaker 3>problem why this person.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying you shouldn't make such prayers. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the one on the house is very problematic. I'm not saying, though,

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<v Speaker 2>that you should not pray for your mother or your

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<v Speaker 2>child God forbid being sick.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I merely want you to understand the very serious problem

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<v Speaker 2>with it, which is part of the reason why Judaism

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<v Speaker 2>almost doesn't have it. It's not in here, It's not

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<v Speaker 2>in the Reform, conservative or Orthodox prayer book of the

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish people.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that remarkable?

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<v Speaker 2>We have no oh, please heal so and so. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a mischabek. It is a later rabbinic addition

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<v Speaker 2>because the Jews couldn't handle it. The absence of a

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<v Speaker 2>petitionary prayer for a sick individual was too painful for Jews,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it was added to the service. It is

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<v Speaker 2>not part of the classic Jewish prayer book. Isn't that incredible?

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<v Speaker 2>Something that has become so much? Oh, if you're sick,

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<v Speaker 2>please come forward. I have come forward. I am not

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to it, And the reason I am not opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to it I will mention a little later. But you

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<v Speaker 2>must understand how logically, morally and Jewishly it's problematic to

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<v Speaker 2>pray for individual things. Please give, Please give.

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<v Speaker 3>What I would pray for I and do is the

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<v Speaker 3>strength to deal with what life or God has dealt me.

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<v Speaker 3>And the wisdom with which to deal that, I think

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<v Speaker 3>is a is more coherent.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, God, give us the strength to deal with whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is that life gives to me. That is to

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<v Speaker 2>me a very powerful and virtuous, singular petitionary prayer. God

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<v Speaker 2>is not, in Judaism, a celestial butler. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>what God is. If you primarily see prayer as petition,

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<v Speaker 2>it is God virtually as Santa Claus, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I want, Please deliver it. And by the way, it

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<v Speaker 2>is never too soon to stop believing in that God.

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<v Speaker 2>If you believe in that God, there's a very good

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<v Speaker 2>chance you will end up an atheist because one day

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to make that prayer God's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>deliver and you'll say, you see, there is no God.

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<v Speaker 2>I know someone very well for whom this happened his

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<v Speaker 2>whole life. He was convinced that God was giving him

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of wonderful things. And then a dearly, dearly

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<v Speaker 2>beloved relative of his dide and he told me, I

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<v Speaker 2>have never talked to God since God is irrelevant to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, as I've told him, and I am

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<v Speaker 2>very close to this person. I said, listen, the God

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<v Speaker 2>you believed in, you should be an atheist about. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe in the God you believed in before either

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<v Speaker 2>Your God was a waiter. The God I believe in

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<v Speaker 2>is not that God. Now we go to the second

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<v Speaker 2>part of petitionary prayer, which is much more acceptable jewishly

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<v Speaker 2>communal petitionary prayer. We do ask God for things in

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<v Speaker 2>this book, but it is always always in the plural.

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<v Speaker 3>We ask God.

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<v Speaker 2>We call God rofei colail a mo Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>God is the healer of the sick of his people Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>We pray to God to heal all the sick.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense, for the for the woman next to

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<v Speaker 2>my mother who has no kid and no husband. To

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<v Speaker 2>make the prayer, we are also praying God is the

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<v Speaker 2>healer of all the sick. That makes a great more sense.

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<v Speaker 2>We want all the fires on the block extinguished. Oh God,

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<v Speaker 2>may no fire do damage. Now. I know that it

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<v Speaker 2>is natural to wish your fire the fire not be

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<v Speaker 2>your home. I know it is natural to pray for

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<v Speaker 2>your own relative, and I have no problem with the second.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a problem with the first for the obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>But Jewishly it is the communal idea that is the

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<v Speaker 2>petitionary one, Oh we bless you, who are the healer

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<v Speaker 2>of all the sick of Israel. So therefore number one,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not a big part of Jewish prayer. Petitionary

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<v Speaker 2>one final word about God and helping the individual.

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<v Speaker 3>The more you see.

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<v Speaker 2>God as the God who helps out those in trouble,

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<v Speaker 2>the more you are likely to be, as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>an atheist. And I use Auschwitz as the best example

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<v Speaker 2>when people say God died in Auschwitz or I can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in God after the Holocaust. And I have a

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<v Speaker 2>whole talk on this and many articles on it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to belabor the point right now it

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<v Speaker 2>would take too much time.

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<v Speaker 3>But very briefly, what they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying is the God who saves people who are in

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<v Speaker 2>terrible straits.

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<v Speaker 3>I no longer believe in, my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say that, as painful as it is,

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<v Speaker 2>that is not the God of Judaism, as I understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you might say, what are you talking about. Didn't

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<v Speaker 2>God save the Jews from Egypt? And when I speak

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<v Speaker 2>on this at length, I point out, yes, God saved

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<v Speaker 2>the Jewish people from Pharaoh, but God did not save

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<v Speaker 2>all individual Jews from Pharaoh. How many Jewish boys were

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<v Speaker 2>thrown into the Nile and drowned. How many Jews were

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<v Speaker 2>beaten to death by Egyptians.

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<v Speaker 3>Slave masters, We don't know, but in its own way,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a mini Holocaust. God does save the Jewish people.

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<v Speaker 3>I do believe that we're here in Pittsburgh four thousand years.

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<v Speaker 2>Later, we are still here. That's pretty remarkable. God does

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<v Speaker 2>save the Jewish people. I believe that as I am

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<v Speaker 2>standing by that Torah, that God saves the Jewish people.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no doubt in my mind. There will be

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<v Speaker 2>Jews as long as there is humanity. There will be

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<v Speaker 2>people dobvining on Neptune one day, I have no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Temple Emmanuel of Neptune. I don't think I'll live to

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<v Speaker 3>see it, but it will happen. It is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Individual that can be hurt by the hater, and how

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<v Speaker 2>could it not be that way. I don't believe in

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<v Speaker 2>a god who will stop all rapes, who will stop

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<v Speaker 2>all murders, who will stop all muggings.

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<v Speaker 3>How could that be?

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<v Speaker 2>If I believed in such a God, I'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>be an atheist. I'd have no choice, or I would

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<v Speaker 2>have to do even something worse, that it is God's

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<v Speaker 2>will that people be raped and murdered, which I certainly

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe in. Judaism certainly doesn't believe. It is not

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<v Speaker 2>God's will that the six million or tortured and burned.

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<v Speaker 2>It is against God's will. But God allows you to

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<v Speaker 2>violate his will. God allows you to hurt people. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't like that fact. I don't like it either, but

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<v Speaker 2>intellectually not emotionally, Thank God. That's the way the world works.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you prefer that God stop you every time you

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<v Speaker 2>want to hurt somebody? And where do you draw the

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<v Speaker 2>line at six million? No? But three million yes? Or

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<v Speaker 2>three million stop? But why is three million any less?

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<v Speaker 2>What about one? Why is one murder? O?

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<v Speaker 3>Go? God exists if heel it's one person murdered, But

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<v Speaker 3>if he lets six million murdered, he doesn't exist. It

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<v Speaker 3>makes no sense for that one. What's the difference? That's

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<v Speaker 3>all we have? You and I. We are entire universes.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether we die with five million nine nine nine nine

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<v Speaker 2>others or alone, we still are are away gone extinguished.

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<v Speaker 2>So what where should God draw the line? How about

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<v Speaker 2>he should stop all murdered? What about rape. Should he

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<v Speaker 2>allow rapes?

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<v Speaker 3>Or yes, allow date rape but not stranger rape, or

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<v Speaker 3>he should stop all date rape? Two?

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<v Speaker 2>What about how about punches? Should he allow punches? Don't

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<v Speaker 2>you see how ludicrous it becomes? What evil would you

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<v Speaker 2>allow God to allow? And where would you stop him?

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<v Speaker 2>He made us, he told us what to do. We

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<v Speaker 2>violate it. We have screwed up. It's as simple as

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<v Speaker 2>an unappeal.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>So you'd say, what I pray in a foxhole? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I pray in a foxhole. I'm human, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>in a foxhole now and I can think rationally, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's very difficult to believe this foxhole. Yes, that foxhole.

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<v Speaker 3>No. Petitionary prayer is not my cup of tea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not Judaism's cup of tea, except communally, and even

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<v Speaker 2>then it is a very very small part of Jewish prayer.

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<v Speaker 2>What we said today, I would say ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 2>of what we said today was not petitionary, even communally.

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<v Speaker 2>So that brings me therefore too. Numbers two, three, and

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<v Speaker 2>four of Jewish prayer, Number two, Part two of Jewish prayer,

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<v Speaker 2>which is more than petitionary and a big part, but

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<v Speaker 2>not the biggest alone is praise. We praise God. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>you are great, you are magnificent, you are the creator,

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<v Speaker 2>you do incredible things, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>Etc. This bothers a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Moderns, especially those with advanced degrees, because the thought of

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<v Speaker 2>praising something higher than themselves. After all that graduate work

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<v Speaker 2>is a very difficult emotional.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing to do, and it is a very healthy thing to

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<v Speaker 3>do when done in proportion to assert daily weekly.

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<v Speaker 2>I recognized there is something infinitely higher than me is

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<v Speaker 2>important for a lot of reasons. The most obvious is

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<v Speaker 2>you don't worship yourself. There is something higher than me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good reason to do it. But there's another

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<v Speaker 2>reason to do it. It gives you inner peace.

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<v Speaker 3>The thought that there isn't something higher than me or

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<v Speaker 3>us humanity would scare the living daylights out of me.

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<v Speaker 3>We're the highest thing that we know of. Oh, my god,

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<v Speaker 3>that's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>It gives me peace to know there is a Boreolam

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<v Speaker 2>as a creator of the world. Ah shoo, there's some

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<v Speaker 2>order in this discord, as was read today by the Rabbi. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel better about that there is a source of

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<v Speaker 2>this universe.

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<v Speaker 3>It isn't just coincidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I want to praise that God doesn't need praise.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think for one second that the purpose of

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<v Speaker 2>praising God in prayer is to make God feel good,

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<v Speaker 2>your view of God is so primitive as to literally

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<v Speaker 2>be childish. Literally God can do you understand if you

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<v Speaker 2>think God feels good when you praise him? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>understand what you're engaging in your own hubris?

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<v Speaker 3>All God feels really good because Schwartz said he's great?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that ludicrous? God, the creator of the world, is

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<v Speaker 2>happy that Prager thinks well of him. Wow, what a

0:25:28.379 --> 0:25:32.659
<v Speaker 2>day Dennis Prager praised me today? Do you have to

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<v Speaker 2>understand it's absurd? God gets no, nothing, nothing out of

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<v Speaker 2>being praised by us.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all for us. And that's what I kept saying

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<v Speaker 3>from the beginning. It's for us.

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<v Speaker 2>I assert there is a creator, and it is magnificent

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<v Speaker 2>what you have done. I have problems with the discord.

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<v Speaker 2>But as was read today, if we had a sunrise

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<v Speaker 2>once a year, we'd be really dazzled by it. The

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<v Speaker 2>fact that it happens every day we yawn. The trick

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<v Speaker 2>is not to yawn.

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<v Speaker 3>The trick is to be blown away every day. We

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<v Speaker 3>just said it again, it's a great. It's a great thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He in the Hebrew ha'ma kadesh betuvo behol young tamid saboration.

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<v Speaker 2>God in his goodness, every day renews the acts of Genesis.

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<v Speaker 3>I get the chills when I say it, isn't it staggering?

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<v Speaker 3>The first sentence of Genesis and the beginning. God created

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<v Speaker 3>the heavens and the earth. God did it this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>God's doing it now.

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<v Speaker 2>A dear friend of mine, doctor David Weiss, very prominent

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<v Speaker 2>scientist in Israel, been honored by a Queen Elizabeth for

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<v Speaker 2>his work in immunology. He's head of immunology at Hadasa

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<v Speaker 2>Medical Center.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a professor. He was the head of chemistry

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<v Speaker 3>at Berkeley's.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a very very well regarded scientist and a deeply

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<v Speaker 2>religious Jew. And he asks one question when he speaks

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<v Speaker 2>about science, or one of the questions he asks is

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<v Speaker 2>a very powerful one.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, you know, we all know that there is

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<v Speaker 3>movement in the universe. For example, we all know that

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<v Speaker 3>the protons and the electrons are going around the nucleus

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<v Speaker 3>of an atom, and that's the original energy of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Why why do they keep moving? He said? Scientists just

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<v Speaker 3>say that's it. It's a law of nature that they

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<v Speaker 3>keep moving, he said. But that's not an answer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's a tautology. Why do they keep moving

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<v Speaker 2>because they keep moving? They keep moving because God keeps

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<v Speaker 2>moving them. That every day is a big bang, as

0:27:46.979 --> 0:27:51.859
<v Speaker 2>it were. To become aware of this and to reflect,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, you go, this is incredible, not all. You're terrific,

0:27:56.619 --> 0:27:59.219
<v Speaker 2>like you would say to a friend, you're terrific.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to boost your ego. God has no ego,

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<v Speaker 3>but for the sake of our ego and our appreciation

0:28:06.979 --> 0:28:10.699
<v Speaker 3>of what there is in this world, we praise God.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the whole and only reason number three, number three

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<v Speaker 2>part of prayer, and perhaps the greatest part. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have come to realize, if you take it seriously, the

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<v Speaker 2>most important for your happiness you hear me, Not your religiosity,

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<v Speaker 2>your happiness.

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<v Speaker 3>You heard.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm writing a book which I've been writing for too

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<v Speaker 2>many years now, titled Happiness is a Serious Problem. I

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<v Speaker 2>have worked very systematically on the question of happiness for years,

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<v Speaker 2>given actually many courses on it, believe it or not.

0:28:59.700 --> 0:29:07.059
<v Speaker 2>And more important, I'm actually a happy person. And I

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<v Speaker 2>discovered with all the hutzpah that this entails. I actually

0:29:11.219 --> 0:29:16.180
<v Speaker 2>discovered the secret to happiness. For this alone, you will

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<v Speaker 2>have been rewarded for trooping out in this weather.

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<v Speaker 3>I am telling you I have found the secret to happiness.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have this, you will be happy. If you

0:29:33.660 --> 0:29:38.060
<v Speaker 3>don't have this, you cannot be happy. You cannot.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was nothing else I would say about, not

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<v Speaker 2>even health. There are people with health that were not happy.

0:29:43.860 --> 0:29:46.420
<v Speaker 2>There are people who were unhealthy and yet who have

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<v Speaker 2>an essentially happy disposition.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not health. I'll tell you what it is, gratitude.

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<v Speaker 3>If you are a grateful human being, you are definitionally

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a happy human being. If you are

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<v Speaker 3>not a grateful human being, it does not matter what

0:30:05.459 --> 0:30:10.260
<v Speaker 3>you have, it is not possible to be happy. Not possible.

0:30:11.420 --> 0:30:19.259
<v Speaker 3>The single greatest part of Jewish prayer is gratitude, and

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<v Speaker 3>if you take it serious, it will make you a

0:30:23.100 --> 0:30:28.860
<v Speaker 3>better and happier human being. Thank you for what you

0:30:28.979 --> 0:30:33.100
<v Speaker 3>have done. Thank you for this world, Thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>and you just fill it in, just constant hodu la

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<v Speaker 3>chem quito.

0:30:40.140 --> 0:30:46.780
<v Speaker 2>Thanks to God, because it's good. You are the one

0:30:46.820 --> 0:30:49.340
<v Speaker 2>who made this all. You have given all of this

0:30:49.420 --> 0:30:55.060
<v Speaker 2>to us. Thank you, baruch Attah. What is that it's

0:30:55.140 --> 0:30:57.940
<v Speaker 2>a thank you, it's not only a thank you.

0:30:58.060 --> 0:30:58.500
<v Speaker 3>Barruth.

0:30:58.860 --> 0:31:02.219
<v Speaker 2>The word for blessing in Hebrew comes from berek, which

0:31:02.260 --> 0:31:05.019
<v Speaker 2>is me, and it literally means.

0:31:04.780 --> 0:31:08.340
<v Speaker 3>I bend my knee to you. You are bendable to.

0:31:09.020 --> 0:31:12.740
<v Speaker 2>It's a combination of gratitude and awe when you make

0:31:12.780 --> 0:31:13.620
<v Speaker 2>a brusha.

0:31:14.820 --> 0:31:17.820
<v Speaker 3>But it's half gratitude.

0:31:18.020 --> 0:31:21.019
<v Speaker 2>I am grateful to you, you who have, and then

0:31:21.060 --> 0:31:26.140
<v Speaker 2>you fill in the rest of the braha. If you

0:31:26.340 --> 0:31:30.739
<v Speaker 2>can take the gratitude part of Jewish prayer seriously, you

0:31:30.780 --> 0:31:33.300
<v Speaker 2>will not only be a more serious Jew, you will

0:31:33.300 --> 0:31:38.100
<v Speaker 2>be a happier person. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

0:31:41.020 --> 0:31:48.539
<v Speaker 2>And number four, a major part of Jewish prayer is

0:31:48.580 --> 0:31:55.140
<v Speaker 2>to affirm the Jewish purpose. There is a purpose that

0:31:55.180 --> 0:31:58.219
<v Speaker 2>we're here. If Jews all knew this, there would be

0:31:58.260 --> 0:32:02.620
<v Speaker 2>no assimilation none. To my mind, it is not possible

0:32:02.860 --> 0:32:07.420
<v Speaker 2>to know and appreciate the purpose of Judaism and assimilate.

0:32:09.140 --> 0:32:12.820
<v Speaker 2>The problem is it's not taught. Judaism became for many

0:32:13.219 --> 0:32:16.900
<v Speaker 2>a folk way of life. The kids rejected it, just

0:32:16.940 --> 0:32:21.019
<v Speaker 2>as kids rejected old European customs of Italian or or

0:32:21.420 --> 0:32:25.700
<v Speaker 2>Polish parents. Judaism ceased being a mission and became a

0:32:25.780 --> 0:32:30.980
<v Speaker 2>folk way from Orthodox to non Orthodox, and that's the

0:32:31.020 --> 0:32:33.300
<v Speaker 2>primary reason so many Jews rejected it.

0:32:34.420 --> 0:32:36.340
<v Speaker 3>Jews would not want to live.

0:32:36.459 --> 0:32:40.940
<v Speaker 2>An East European way of life anymore non Jews would

0:32:40.979 --> 0:32:45.100
<v Speaker 2>when they came to America, or when Enlightenment came in Europe,

0:32:45.180 --> 0:32:51.660
<v Speaker 2>when Napoleon knocked down the ghettos. Jews have ceased to understand.

0:32:51.780 --> 0:32:55.580
<v Speaker 2>And this goes from Orthodox to reform to secular. Certainly

0:32:56.900 --> 0:33:00.299
<v Speaker 2>that we have a mission in this world. Think I

0:33:00.380 --> 0:33:02.700
<v Speaker 2>made it up. Let me read to you from the

0:33:02.739 --> 0:33:07.260
<v Speaker 2>prayer book just said right before I started speaking. This

0:33:07.340 --> 0:33:11.180
<v Speaker 2>is to be found in Reform, conservative and Orthodox prayer books.

0:33:11.700 --> 0:33:13.940
<v Speaker 2>May the time not be distant, Oh God, when your

0:33:14.020 --> 0:33:17.300
<v Speaker 2>name shall be worshiped in all the earth, when unbelief

0:33:17.380 --> 0:33:21.499
<v Speaker 2>shall disappear, and arabin no more. Fervently we pray that

0:33:21.540 --> 0:33:23.779
<v Speaker 2>the day may come when all shall turn to you

0:33:23.860 --> 0:33:26.979
<v Speaker 2>in love, when corruption and evil shall give way to

0:33:27.020 --> 0:33:27.740
<v Speaker 2>integrity and.

0:33:27.700 --> 0:33:30.900
<v Speaker 3>Goodness, and so on and so forth, when.

0:33:30.780 --> 0:33:34.739
<v Speaker 2>All who dwell on earth shall know that You alone

0:33:34.860 --> 0:33:39.420
<v Speaker 2>are God. Oh, May all created in your image become

0:33:39.459 --> 0:33:44.740
<v Speaker 2>one in spirit, ever united in your service. Then your

0:33:44.860 --> 0:33:47.940
<v Speaker 2>kingdom will be established on earth, and the word of

0:33:47.979 --> 0:33:52.780
<v Speaker 2>your prophet will be fulfilled. The Lord will reign forever

0:33:52.900 --> 0:34:00.580
<v Speaker 2>and ever. Pretty big deal. That's why we're on earth.

0:34:01.380 --> 0:34:07.539
<v Speaker 2>The only, only, only reason for Jews is this paragraph

0:34:07.660 --> 0:34:10.140
<v Speaker 2>to bring the world to the one God, so that

0:34:10.180 --> 0:34:13.259
<v Speaker 2>we can become one humanity, so that that we could

0:34:13.340 --> 0:34:19.300
<v Speaker 2>understand there is one moral law, not two. That's why

0:34:19.460 --> 0:34:24.259
<v Speaker 2>the Jews are existent. We are in the service of

0:34:24.340 --> 0:34:28.540
<v Speaker 2>this mission to bring the world to God, not to liberalism,

0:34:28.900 --> 0:34:33.219
<v Speaker 2>not to conservatism, not to feminism, not to socialism or

0:34:33.259 --> 0:34:35.460
<v Speaker 2>all the other isms that Jews invent and give.

0:34:35.339 --> 0:34:37.180
<v Speaker 3>Passion to God.

0:34:37.739 --> 0:34:42.220
<v Speaker 2>From that will flow many of the ideals that Jews affirm. Now,

0:34:42.460 --> 0:34:47.899
<v Speaker 2>no problem with that, But the first and primary aim

0:34:48.020 --> 0:34:50.660
<v Speaker 2>of the Jewish people is to bring the world to

0:34:50.779 --> 0:34:55.100
<v Speaker 2>the one transcendent source of goodness, of good morals, of

0:34:55.140 --> 0:34:55.940
<v Speaker 2>good values.

0:34:56.180 --> 0:34:56.500
<v Speaker 3>God.

0:34:58.580 --> 0:35:03.300
<v Speaker 2>Much of our prayer book is about reminding you and.

0:35:03.180 --> 0:35:04.980
<v Speaker 3>Me what we're here for.

0:35:06.540 --> 0:35:09.900
<v Speaker 2>You forget at the office, you forget when you're raising

0:35:09.940 --> 0:35:15.339
<v Speaker 2>your kids. You forget on Tuesday afternoons. It's easy to

0:35:15.460 --> 0:35:19.380
<v Speaker 2>forget when you're overwhelmed with ear.

0:35:19.219 --> 0:35:25.140
<v Speaker 3>Infections and not enough money to pay bills. So we

0:35:25.299 --> 0:35:28.660
<v Speaker 3>get together, or you do it on your own daily

0:35:28.859 --> 0:35:33.299
<v Speaker 3>or weekly and you reaffirm, Ah, that's why I'm a Jew.

0:35:34.140 --> 0:35:34.980
<v Speaker 3>I forgot.

0:35:37.620 --> 0:35:43.860
<v Speaker 2>That's the greatest single purpose of Jewish prayer, of Jewish

0:35:44.060 --> 0:35:50.460
<v Speaker 2>self examination, to remind you what you're doing. We forget,

0:35:51.779 --> 0:35:54.739
<v Speaker 2>and even when we say it, we don't say it seriously.

0:35:55.500 --> 0:35:58.180
<v Speaker 2>How many read this paragraph and we're thinking about the

0:35:58.219 --> 0:36:03.419
<v Speaker 2>penguins or business or the person next to them, or.

0:36:03.660 --> 0:36:06.380
<v Speaker 3>Just it happens. It happens to me too. It happens

0:36:06.380 --> 0:36:11.020
<v Speaker 3>to all of us. But if you actually did it,

0:36:11.060 --> 0:36:14.460
<v Speaker 3>if you could have the covenant, look at the words

0:36:14.500 --> 0:36:20.580
<v Speaker 3>you're saying. Wow, it's overwhelming. Oh, that's why we're here.

0:36:21.779 --> 0:36:25.420
<v Speaker 3>That's all of Russia Shana Young Kipper service. It's Russia

0:36:25.460 --> 0:36:28.540
<v Speaker 3>Shanam Kipper, much more even than the other services. Is

0:36:28.580 --> 0:36:32.100
<v Speaker 3>to remind you why we're here. The most repeated prayer,

0:36:32.140 --> 0:36:32.979
<v Speaker 3>one of the most is.

0:36:32.980 --> 0:36:38.180
<v Speaker 2>Via Asu Kulama guddah hatla God, we pray to you

0:36:38.259 --> 0:36:41.539
<v Speaker 2>that all mankind will make one community to do your

0:36:41.620 --> 0:36:47.260
<v Speaker 2>will with a full heart. That's why we're here. Russia

0:36:47.299 --> 0:36:49.540
<v Speaker 2>Shan is not a Jewish holiday. Russia Shan is a

0:36:49.660 --> 0:36:55.819
<v Speaker 2>universal holiday. Pessa is a Jewish holiday. Russia Shana is

0:36:56.219 --> 0:37:03.180
<v Speaker 2>Hyom Harat olam Hiyom ya Amat. It is the birthday

0:37:03.219 --> 0:37:06.900
<v Speaker 2>of the world and the day where everyone, not just Jews,

0:37:07.020 --> 0:37:08.180
<v Speaker 2>begins to be judged.

0:37:09.339 --> 0:37:13.019
<v Speaker 3>It is a totally universal holiday. The Jewish New Year

0:37:13.060 --> 0:37:17.340
<v Speaker 3>begins with Passover. The world's new year begins Russia Shanna.

0:37:18.140 --> 0:37:19.339
<v Speaker 3>Most Jews don't know this.

0:37:21.100 --> 0:37:23.860
<v Speaker 2>It's called the Jewish New Year, but only because Jews

0:37:23.859 --> 0:37:24.899
<v Speaker 2>are celebrating it.

0:37:25.180 --> 0:37:28.860
<v Speaker 3>But it is the world's new year. Though world is judged,

0:37:29.420 --> 0:37:30.379
<v Speaker 3>we believe.

0:37:30.060 --> 0:37:33.859
<v Speaker 2>In a God who will judge everybody because everybody has

0:37:33.900 --> 0:37:38.819
<v Speaker 2>a conscience. It's our task to bring the world to

0:37:38.900 --> 0:37:43.339
<v Speaker 2>this one God. And so went better time to make

0:37:43.420 --> 0:37:45.859
<v Speaker 2>you aware of it than when you get together with

0:37:45.980 --> 0:37:50.140
<v Speaker 2>fellow Jews at a synagogue and assert this is why

0:37:50.180 --> 0:37:55.219
<v Speaker 2>we're here, When you realize that it's to praise something

0:37:55.339 --> 0:37:57.859
<v Speaker 2>higher that has made the world and unites it and

0:37:57.900 --> 0:38:03.820
<v Speaker 2>gives it meaning, that it is to affirm gratitude because

0:38:03.819 --> 0:38:05.939
<v Speaker 2>that's the only way we will be happy in a

0:38:05.980 --> 0:38:09.859
<v Speaker 2>difficult world, and that it is to restate what our

0:38:09.940 --> 0:38:11.899
<v Speaker 2>purpose is on this earth as Jews are.

0:38:12.819 --> 0:38:18.580
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't it make it much more meaningful? Then? Oh, please

0:38:18.739 --> 0:38:20.620
<v Speaker 3>help Sally Berkowitz.

0:38:20.980 --> 0:38:23.739
<v Speaker 2>When in your heart you know there's a good chance

0:38:23.779 --> 0:38:29.419
<v Speaker 2>Sally Berkowitz is going to die, and I hope there's

0:38:29.420 --> 0:38:35.140
<v Speaker 2>no Sally Berkowitz ill in this particular synagogue. When we

0:38:35.259 --> 0:38:40.019
<v Speaker 2>get together, we join with fellow Jews in a religiously

0:38:40.060 --> 0:38:45.219
<v Speaker 2>affirmative environment. My friends, even if you didn't pay much

0:38:45.259 --> 0:38:49.819
<v Speaker 2>attention to the dobvining on any given Shabbat, you leave

0:38:49.900 --> 0:38:55.740
<v Speaker 2>the synagogue different than had you stayed home alone. For years,

0:38:55.779 --> 0:38:58.620
<v Speaker 2>I went to synagogues that bored the living daylights out

0:38:58.620 --> 0:38:58.819
<v Speaker 2>of me.

0:38:59.739 --> 0:39:02.019
<v Speaker 3>They drove me out of my mind. Frankly, I read.

0:39:03.100 --> 0:39:04.779
<v Speaker 2>I had a Jewish book, and I would read in

0:39:04.819 --> 0:39:10.340
<v Speaker 2>the back row. But I never stopped going to synagogue

0:39:10.620 --> 0:39:15.060
<v Speaker 2>because the feeling that it induced was worth it. I

0:39:15.100 --> 0:39:18.180
<v Speaker 2>had gotten together with fellow Jews as an island in

0:39:18.259 --> 0:39:22.939
<v Speaker 2>a week of every other concern, to reaffirm that I'm

0:39:23.020 --> 0:39:27.259
<v Speaker 2>part of something larger than me, not just God, but

0:39:27.339 --> 0:39:31.140
<v Speaker 2>a Jewish community. You don't have to love everybody you

0:39:31.219 --> 0:39:35.899
<v Speaker 2>go to school with, and by no means, but it

0:39:36.060 --> 0:39:39.859
<v Speaker 2>is a major statement that I have joined with you

0:39:40.100 --> 0:39:44.700
<v Speaker 2>Friday night and or Shabbat morning, and I have sung

0:39:44.779 --> 0:39:47.540
<v Speaker 2>with you, and I have restated with you what we

0:39:47.580 --> 0:39:48.219
<v Speaker 2>are here for.

0:39:49.020 --> 0:39:52.540
<v Speaker 3>And I have heard words of Torah with you. That

0:39:52.739 --> 0:39:55.180
<v Speaker 3>to me is what prayer is. And that's how I

0:39:55.299 --> 0:39:59.339
<v Speaker 3>worked it out for someone who instinctively does not wake

0:39:59.420 --> 0:40:02.580
<v Speaker 3>up in the morning and go, thou art great and

0:40:02.739 --> 0:40:04.259
<v Speaker 3>please heal my mother.

0:40:05.219 --> 0:40:11.100
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Shabatchalla more than happy to take questions, comments,

0:40:11.140 --> 0:40:18.620
<v Speaker 2>and reef alternate speeches. Yes, please A dress myself to

0:40:18.660 --> 0:40:21.620
<v Speaker 2>the prayers of young Kipur and Russias Shanna when we

0:40:21.700 --> 0:40:23.300
<v Speaker 2>pray for another year of life.

0:40:23.420 --> 0:40:24.660
<v Speaker 3>This is how I deal with it.

0:40:26.219 --> 0:40:29.180
<v Speaker 2>First of all, I do believe God judges us that

0:40:29.259 --> 0:40:33.060
<v Speaker 2>after all you mention Yom Kipur. The other name for

0:40:33.140 --> 0:40:37.220
<v Speaker 2>Yom Kipur is Yomhadin, the day of judgment. The thought

0:40:37.259 --> 0:40:39.859
<v Speaker 2>that we are judged by God to whom we are

0:40:39.900 --> 0:40:44.420
<v Speaker 2>accountable for our behavior is terrific. I wish everybody felt

0:40:44.420 --> 0:40:47.899
<v Speaker 2>that that. Uh oh, I'm going to have to give

0:40:48.060 --> 0:40:51.299
<v Speaker 2>an accounting for the way I behave. That in and

0:40:51.339 --> 0:40:56.739
<v Speaker 2>of itself is magnificently important. It's again, how it affects you,

0:40:57.580 --> 0:41:00.620
<v Speaker 2>and I think that that's critical. Does God decide on

0:41:00.700 --> 0:41:04.500
<v Speaker 2>russiashana literally decide whether you will live or whether you

0:41:04.540 --> 0:41:11.500
<v Speaker 2>will die? Maybe I don't know. It's possible. I'm not

0:41:11.620 --> 0:41:15.779
<v Speaker 2>certain either way, but to the extent that one is

0:41:15.819 --> 0:41:18.700
<v Speaker 2>willing to grant that God has any connection to whether

0:41:18.739 --> 0:41:21.540
<v Speaker 2>we live or die, that would make sense. Now, of course,

0:41:22.299 --> 0:41:40.739
<v Speaker 2>the people who wrote this were The people who wrote

0:41:40.739 --> 0:41:44.020
<v Speaker 2>this were not stupid. They knew that no matter what,

0:41:44.859 --> 0:41:47.140
<v Speaker 2>even if you are the most righteous person in the world,

0:41:47.180 --> 0:41:50.660
<v Speaker 2>you're going to one year after Russia Shana, you will die.

0:41:50.940 --> 0:41:53.060
<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously, it's just gonna happen.

0:41:54.020 --> 0:41:57.739
<v Speaker 2>Therefore, it depends on the amount of literalness you bring

0:41:57.819 --> 0:42:00.660
<v Speaker 2>to the issue. Let me give you an example of

0:42:00.739 --> 0:42:02.939
<v Speaker 2>something I am embarrassed to say I.

0:42:02.940 --> 0:42:05.739
<v Speaker 3>Only learned this year at that synagogue.

0:42:06.779 --> 0:42:10.540
<v Speaker 2>I learned it from my dear friend and teacher, Rabbi

0:42:10.660 --> 0:42:15.219
<v Speaker 2>Joseph Tulushkin, at whose service I was. He comes and

0:42:15.259 --> 0:42:18.059
<v Speaker 2>does a service in Los Angeles. So he came out

0:42:19.180 --> 0:42:22.859
<v Speaker 2>and he blamed and have killed me. You know, you know,

0:42:22.900 --> 0:42:24.379
<v Speaker 2>when you hear a great point, you go, why didn't

0:42:24.420 --> 0:42:26.500
<v Speaker 2>I think of that? That's when you know it's a

0:42:26.540 --> 0:42:28.819
<v Speaker 2>great point, and it's so obvious, and you missed it

0:42:28.859 --> 0:42:34.140
<v Speaker 2>for forty five years. There is a statement which we

0:42:34.219 --> 0:42:36.380
<v Speaker 2>say at the height of the Russia showing them kipper

0:42:36.420 --> 0:42:46.100
<v Speaker 2>service to shuvatila ut daka, mavirin atrozeira to Shuvah, repentance,

0:42:46.420 --> 0:42:53.940
<v Speaker 2>prayer and charity. They they avert you have in the English,

0:42:53.980 --> 0:42:55.980
<v Speaker 2>the evil decree.

0:42:56.140 --> 0:42:59.820
<v Speaker 3>I could never believe this. It seemed like a bribe.

0:43:00.739 --> 0:43:05.060
<v Speaker 2>All I see, I won't I won't die if I

0:43:05.140 --> 0:43:08.779
<v Speaker 2>give to daka and if I repent and do the

0:43:08.859 --> 0:43:10.180
<v Speaker 2>right things.

0:43:11.100 --> 0:43:14.379
<v Speaker 3>But somebody's gonna die every year. It's not possible.

0:43:15.380 --> 0:43:19.979
<v Speaker 2>And then he showed the Hebrew was incorrectly translated.

0:43:20.739 --> 0:43:25.100
<v Speaker 3>It's not avert the evil decree. It's avert the bitterness

0:43:25.140 --> 0:43:30.620
<v Speaker 3>of the decree. Roa hagazeira, the evil of the decree, literally,

0:43:31.060 --> 0:43:34.900
<v Speaker 3>not the evil decree. Ah, that's very different.

0:43:34.980 --> 0:43:38.140
<v Speaker 2>In other words, I can prepare myself for whatever decree

0:43:38.180 --> 0:43:39.580
<v Speaker 2>it is if I live.

0:43:39.460 --> 0:43:44.420
<v Speaker 3>A certain way. And that's true. As my wife always

0:43:44.460 --> 0:43:49.339
<v Speaker 3>puts it, you die the way you have lived. And

0:43:49.739 --> 0:43:50.580
<v Speaker 3>there's because.

0:43:50.380 --> 0:43:52.620
<v Speaker 2>She worked at she volunteered in a hospice for a

0:43:52.660 --> 0:43:55.140
<v Speaker 2>while and is speaking from some knowledge.

0:43:55.620 --> 0:43:56.940
<v Speaker 3>There's a great deal of truth.

0:43:56.980 --> 0:44:00.780
<v Speaker 2>You do prepare yourself if you have lived a certain way,

0:44:00.859 --> 0:44:04.259
<v Speaker 2>then you are able to handle the evil decree. If

0:44:04.299 --> 0:44:06.700
<v Speaker 2>God forbid God, I want to live not till one

0:44:06.779 --> 0:44:09.860
<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty five, as you wished me last night, Rabbi,

0:44:09.859 --> 0:44:11.620
<v Speaker 2>I wish that I lived till see one hundred and

0:44:11.660 --> 0:44:14.180
<v Speaker 2>twentieth birthday of my son, who turned one today.

0:44:15.140 --> 0:44:16.299
<v Speaker 3>So that would I mean.

0:44:16.420 --> 0:44:18.180
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to live tw one hundred and sixty five,

0:44:18.299 --> 0:44:24.460
<v Speaker 2>but I appreciate the good words. One hundred and eleven

0:44:24.580 --> 0:44:29.100
<v Speaker 2>would be just about right now at any rate.

0:44:32.219 --> 0:44:37.859
<v Speaker 3>If I were told that I were to die, we

0:44:37.940 --> 0:44:42.779
<v Speaker 3>all think about this. I would have immense pain, but

0:44:42.900 --> 0:44:48.299
<v Speaker 3>it would be ninety nine percent for my loved ones.

0:44:49.500 --> 0:44:53.260
<v Speaker 2>Because I feel very good about the forty five years

0:44:53.259 --> 0:44:57.020
<v Speaker 2>I lived. I feel they've been full, they've been blessed,

0:44:57.180 --> 0:44:59.859
<v Speaker 2>they've been rich. I'm sure many of you can say this,

0:45:00.500 --> 0:45:05.700
<v Speaker 2>but there are many who don't. And I think I

0:45:05.739 --> 0:45:09.740
<v Speaker 2>can meet my maker, I'm not totally certain. With pretty

0:45:09.779 --> 0:45:16.060
<v Speaker 2>clean hands, that's what happens. You can avert the bitterness

0:45:16.140 --> 0:45:20.219
<v Speaker 2>of the decree, whatever it decree is, by how you live.

0:45:21.299 --> 0:45:24.819
<v Speaker 2>It makes it all so much more real to me then,

0:45:25.859 --> 0:45:30.140
<v Speaker 2>And to bang my chest, to bang my heart over

0:45:30.580 --> 0:45:35.819
<v Speaker 2>speaking badly about others, over not honoring parents and teachers,

0:45:35.819 --> 0:45:40.620
<v Speaker 2>over having malicious tongue, that is important. And by the way,

0:45:40.900 --> 0:45:43.939
<v Speaker 2>you know all of them are in the plural. We

0:45:44.140 --> 0:45:47.420
<v Speaker 2>bang for all our fellow Jews. How you act in

0:45:47.540 --> 0:45:50.980
<v Speaker 2>Jewish life is my business. That's why I could have

0:45:51.020 --> 0:45:53.379
<v Speaker 2>the hoodspur to fly here and tell you last night,

0:45:53.779 --> 0:45:55.739
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you should turn the car radio on

0:45:55.980 --> 0:45:58.819
<v Speaker 2>when you go home. That's my Jewish duty that you

0:45:59.180 --> 0:46:04.060
<v Speaker 2>may not have known that. It's a total law. You

0:46:04.140 --> 0:46:09.020
<v Speaker 2>must reprove your fellow jew lovingly. You must be receptive

0:46:09.060 --> 0:46:12.300
<v Speaker 2>to their reproof. We're in it together. We're like a team.

0:46:12.859 --> 0:46:15.859
<v Speaker 2>If the first basement has a wrong move, the shortstop

0:46:15.900 --> 0:46:19.180
<v Speaker 2>has to tell them. It's no service to the team

0:46:19.500 --> 0:46:22.140
<v Speaker 2>if he doesn't tell the first basement. Listen, if you

0:46:22.259 --> 0:46:24.100
<v Speaker 2>just put your glove this way, you'll be able to

0:46:24.140 --> 0:46:28.340
<v Speaker 2>get those the short hops better that we are a team,

0:46:28.580 --> 0:46:32.459
<v Speaker 2>a tiny team in this world. I am stuck with

0:46:32.500 --> 0:46:36.459
<v Speaker 2>you and you are stuck with me. We don't have

0:46:36.540 --> 0:46:38.500
<v Speaker 2>to love each other with our you know, and the

0:46:38.620 --> 0:46:41.499
<v Speaker 2>sense oh, I love every Jew. Anybody who says that

0:46:41.940 --> 0:46:44.700
<v Speaker 2>drives me out of my mind. I love every Jew.

0:46:45.660 --> 0:46:49.060
<v Speaker 2>It's a it's not possible. B. It's not it's not

0:46:50.100 --> 0:46:54.020
<v Speaker 2>even desirable. There are obnoxious Jews. What am I supposed

0:46:54.020 --> 0:46:59.779
<v Speaker 2>to do with them? But I do have to take

0:46:59.819 --> 0:47:03.060
<v Speaker 2>you seriously as a fellow Jew and say, you know,

0:47:03.060 --> 0:47:04.819
<v Speaker 2>we're in it together, and let me tell you how

0:47:04.859 --> 0:47:07.140
<v Speaker 2>I think you might play first base.

0:47:06.900 --> 0:47:10.500
<v Speaker 3>Better, and you have to do it to me. And

0:47:10.580 --> 0:47:13.140
<v Speaker 3>in that sense, that's why we bang in the plural.

0:47:13.299 --> 0:47:15.859
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh, we've all done this, then we all have

0:47:15.940 --> 0:47:19.700
<v Speaker 2>to pay the price and so on. So knowing all

0:47:19.700 --> 0:47:21.820
<v Speaker 2>of that, it is made im Kipper and Russia Shana

0:47:21.940 --> 0:47:26.379
<v Speaker 2>much more meaningful than just a literal This is it,

0:47:26.500 --> 0:47:31.180
<v Speaker 2>This is decided. But you could bribe God with enough saduka.

0:47:32.420 --> 0:47:41.779
<v Speaker 3>It never sat well with me. Yes, okay, well we

0:47:41.819 --> 0:47:47.660
<v Speaker 3>can pray. Just joking, she asks.

0:47:47.500 --> 0:47:49.819
<v Speaker 2>Why are we experiencing all this intermarriage and what can

0:47:49.819 --> 0:47:51.779
<v Speaker 2>we do about it? Very briefly, that too is a

0:47:51.819 --> 0:47:57.899
<v Speaker 2>topic unto itself. There's a very very good reason, or

0:47:57.980 --> 0:48:00.900
<v Speaker 2>I should say simple reason why there's so much intermarriage.

0:48:00.940 --> 0:48:05.299
<v Speaker 2>People marry people with whom they share everything or most everything.

0:48:07.060 --> 0:48:08.099
<v Speaker 3>It's as simple as that.

0:48:08.339 --> 0:48:16.340
<v Speaker 2>Very few American Jews marry Mayans because they don't share

0:48:16.540 --> 0:48:21.339
<v Speaker 2>that much. American Jews marry American non Jews with whom

0:48:21.380 --> 0:48:31.859
<v Speaker 2>they share everything, and specifically, most American Jews are non

0:48:31.900 --> 0:48:38.460
<v Speaker 2>religious and their convictions are liberal. So you have liberal

0:48:38.940 --> 0:48:47.140
<v Speaker 2>non religious Jew marrying liberal, non religious non Jew. They

0:48:47.140 --> 0:48:52.739
<v Speaker 2>have everything in common that when when you when I

0:48:52.779 --> 0:48:55.259
<v Speaker 2>think of intermarriage, I think of people who are different

0:48:55.500 --> 0:49:00.140
<v Speaker 2>marrying Jews and non Jews like I just described.

0:48:59.700 --> 0:49:03.100
<v Speaker 3>Are no are no different. There's no reason they shouldn't marry.

0:49:04.140 --> 0:49:08.180
<v Speaker 2>Ideologically, the only real intermarriage and Jewish life would in

0:49:08.219 --> 0:49:10.420
<v Speaker 2>most cases would be if your son or daughter married

0:49:10.420 --> 0:49:11.180
<v Speaker 2>a Republican.

0:49:14.700 --> 0:49:17.100
<v Speaker 3>That would be an honest to goodness intermarriage.

0:49:18.060 --> 0:49:26.739
<v Speaker 2>Most Jews are ideologically liberal, ethnically Jewish, not ideologically Jewish.

0:49:27.339 --> 0:49:31.180
<v Speaker 2>If Judaism is the source of your values, the odds

0:49:31.180 --> 0:49:34.219
<v Speaker 2>are you will want to marry someone for whom Judaism

0:49:34.259 --> 0:49:34.620
<v Speaker 2>is the.

0:49:34.540 --> 0:49:38.259
<v Speaker 3>Source of his or her values. Is their passion, is

0:49:38.299 --> 0:49:41.299
<v Speaker 3>their commitment. If you knew the Jewish mission in the

0:49:41.339 --> 0:49:44.620
<v Speaker 3>world and believed in it, you'd want to marry somebody

0:49:44.620 --> 0:49:49.899
<v Speaker 3>who shared that mission, a converter, a born Jew. But

0:49:49.980 --> 0:49:54.660
<v Speaker 3>if you have no Jewish mission, have no Jewish ideological distinctiveness,

0:49:55.060 --> 0:49:58.299
<v Speaker 3>why on God's earth should you not marry a non

0:49:58.420 --> 0:50:03.340
<v Speaker 3>Jews identical to you? It is no different.

0:50:04.299 --> 0:50:08.020
<v Speaker 2>We raise our kids, just like the kids were raised

0:50:08.100 --> 0:50:13.660
<v Speaker 2>next door who don't have a Jewish surname. If your

0:50:13.739 --> 0:50:17.580
<v Speaker 2>kid has Shabbak and your kid has Judaism, and your

0:50:17.660 --> 0:50:21.459
<v Speaker 2>kid has a Jewish mission, and your kid does the Alenu,

0:50:22.100 --> 0:50:25.060
<v Speaker 2>and your kid understands this, your kid will want to

0:50:25.100 --> 0:50:29.020
<v Speaker 2>marry someone with whom it's shared. We marry people to

0:50:29.180 --> 0:50:32.620
<v Speaker 2>share our deepest things in life. If the deepest thing

0:50:32.660 --> 0:50:36.580
<v Speaker 2>in your life is social justice liberalism, you'll marry a

0:50:36.620 --> 0:50:41.500
<v Speaker 2>liberal social justice person. It's racist to tell most of

0:50:41.540 --> 0:50:44.620
<v Speaker 2>our kids not to marry non Jews because the only

0:50:44.700 --> 0:50:49.100
<v Speaker 2>difference between them and a non Jew is racial, not ideological.

0:50:50.460 --> 0:50:55.380
<v Speaker 2>Does I answer your question? Yes, good question, Your rabbi

0:50:55.420 --> 0:51:06.900
<v Speaker 2>chef Rabbis ask good questions. If prayer is so wonderful,

0:51:06.900 --> 0:51:08.660
<v Speaker 2>what I sit in back a shoe reading a book

0:51:08.859 --> 0:51:10.940
<v Speaker 2>most of my life? And why would I like to

0:51:10.940 --> 0:51:20.100
<v Speaker 2>see all the restructuring? Because you can have too much

0:51:20.140 --> 0:51:23.939
<v Speaker 2>of a good thing to put it in the most

0:51:23.980 --> 0:51:29.180
<v Speaker 2>positive light. I was raised and even though not Orthodox,

0:51:29.259 --> 0:51:34.620
<v Speaker 2>I went to Orthodox synagogues till a few years ago, and.

0:51:35.779 --> 0:51:36.700
<v Speaker 3>I made it.

0:51:36.819 --> 0:51:39.540
<v Speaker 2>I made a mistake for me, Certainly, it's not a

0:51:39.540 --> 0:51:42.620
<v Speaker 2>mistake for other Jews. I fully appreciate the beauty of it.

0:51:42.660 --> 0:51:48.620
<v Speaker 2>For many Jews, the uh, the amount of dobvining in

0:51:48.660 --> 0:51:53.020
<v Speaker 2>the traditional service is to my mind, simply too much.

0:51:53.819 --> 0:51:57.980
<v Speaker 3>You either have you either have to read.

0:51:57.739 --> 0:52:02.020
<v Speaker 2>It as if you were in an Evelyn Wood reading

0:52:02.100 --> 0:52:05.900
<v Speaker 2>dynamics course. In fact, I have often said evelyn Wood

0:52:05.980 --> 0:52:08.220
<v Speaker 2>must have grown up in an Orthodox synagogue.

0:52:08.620 --> 0:52:08.859
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:52:08.980 --> 0:52:12.939
<v Speaker 2>The the the the speed with which the sitter is

0:52:13.020 --> 0:52:19.140
<v Speaker 2>gone through on Shabbat is uh makes makes reference to

0:52:19.180 --> 0:52:24.940
<v Speaker 2>the to the words extremely difficult, if not impossible. And

0:52:26.420 --> 0:52:30.900
<v Speaker 2>this massive amount of words just didn't have an effect

0:52:30.940 --> 0:52:33.299
<v Speaker 2>on me. It does on others, and I appreciate that,

0:52:33.380 --> 0:52:36.100
<v Speaker 2>but for me and most Jews, clearly it does not

0:52:36.180 --> 0:52:39.620
<v Speaker 2>have that effect. That was my problem. I want it shortened.

0:52:40.900 --> 0:52:46.700
<v Speaker 2>The ability to appreciate and ruminate over the words becomes

0:52:46.779 --> 0:52:53.540
<v Speaker 2>more real to me. Secondly, I personally very much believe

0:52:53.819 --> 0:52:56.739
<v Speaker 2>that God gave us music, that music is one of

0:52:56.779 --> 0:53:01.339
<v Speaker 2>the great gifts of God. For me, again, these things

0:53:01.380 --> 0:53:04.620
<v Speaker 2>are very personal. For some people, music is not that powerful,

0:53:04.660 --> 0:53:09.540
<v Speaker 2>but for many people it is. In Jewish life all

0:53:09.779 --> 0:53:14.580
<v Speaker 2>powerful music by and large.

0:53:14.540 --> 0:53:15.859
<v Speaker 3>I should say not in Jewish life.

0:53:15.900 --> 0:53:20.860
<v Speaker 2>For Jews, all powerful music is not Jewish to get

0:53:20.940 --> 0:53:26.580
<v Speaker 2>really to get my passion stirred musically, I go to

0:53:26.700 --> 0:53:33.460
<v Speaker 2>Handel's Messiah and it's a Christian oratorio. Now, obviously I

0:53:33.460 --> 0:53:37.220
<v Speaker 2>don't believe the words, or i'd be Christian, but I cry,

0:53:38.060 --> 0:53:43.819
<v Speaker 2>I get excited. Do I get excited in regular shools?

0:53:43.940 --> 0:53:47.419
<v Speaker 2>By and large, I don't. I want to sing, or

0:53:47.460 --> 0:53:50.460
<v Speaker 2>at least I want to be moved by powerful music

0:53:51.380 --> 0:53:55.499
<v Speaker 2>and instruments, which are not allowed in Orthodoxy. Though ironically,

0:53:55.540 --> 0:53:59.379
<v Speaker 2>as I tell my Orthodox friends, God himself asked that

0:53:59.420 --> 0:54:03.819
<v Speaker 2>we use musical instruments in the temple. So we have

0:54:03.940 --> 0:54:07.220
<v Speaker 2>a double burden here, which has always struck me as odd.

0:54:07.900 --> 0:54:10.620
<v Speaker 2>The temple is destroyed, so we have to not only

0:54:10.620 --> 0:54:13.300
<v Speaker 2>pay the price of no temple, but pay the price

0:54:13.660 --> 0:54:17.140
<v Speaker 2>of no instruments which the temple used in order to

0:54:17.180 --> 0:54:21.660
<v Speaker 2>make us love to pray. To me, it is the

0:54:21.739 --> 0:54:28.219
<v Speaker 2>quintessence of illogic Nvuha Netsar destroys my sm temple, so

0:54:28.460 --> 0:54:32.140
<v Speaker 2>I can't use music two thousand, three thousand years later.

0:54:35.900 --> 0:54:37.779
<v Speaker 3>That's one of the reasons I'm not Orthodox.

0:54:38.460 --> 0:54:42.260
<v Speaker 2>It's that idea does not make sense to me. Something

0:54:42.299 --> 0:54:45.860
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't make sense to me I cannot accept unless

0:54:45.900 --> 0:54:50.419
<v Speaker 2>it's divine. I'm prepared to accept divine irrationality because I'm

0:54:50.460 --> 0:54:54.060
<v Speaker 2>not God. I'm not prepared to accept human irrationality. So

0:54:54.219 --> 0:54:55.420
<v Speaker 2>I don't keep you on to shaming.

0:54:56.540 --> 0:54:56.860
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:54:58.140 --> 0:55:02.700
<v Speaker 2>I therefore now in a service with music and study

0:55:03.100 --> 0:55:08.899
<v Speaker 2>and song. It's the first time in my life I

0:55:08.940 --> 0:55:14.419
<v Speaker 2>look forward to every Shabbat morning. I would much rather

0:55:14.540 --> 0:55:19.459
<v Speaker 2>go to synagogue where I'm going now than sleep, and

0:55:19.540 --> 0:55:22.819
<v Speaker 2>God knows I need the sleep, and I would love

0:55:22.900 --> 0:55:25.540
<v Speaker 2>to be able to sleep in on Saturday morning. But

0:55:26.259 --> 0:55:29.180
<v Speaker 2>the thought that I missed this, it's almost like if

0:55:29.219 --> 0:55:32.700
<v Speaker 2>you had season tickets to a sport and you missed

0:55:32.700 --> 0:55:35.899
<v Speaker 2>a great game, you'd be disgusted. I'd be disgusted to

0:55:35.940 --> 0:55:44.700
<v Speaker 2>miss it. So what I fantasized jewishly actually materialized in

0:55:44.739 --> 0:55:49.380
<v Speaker 2>a certain service that I attend, and I know therefore

0:55:49.460 --> 0:55:53.180
<v Speaker 2>that it's real and possible. And by the way, it's

0:55:53.219 --> 0:55:53.900
<v Speaker 2>not unique.

0:55:53.980 --> 0:55:57.460
<v Speaker 3>When I went to my friend Rabbi Joseph Tulushkin service

0:55:58.299 --> 0:56:01.580
<v Speaker 3>at a synagogue in Los Angeles for Russia shunning Young

0:56:01.660 --> 0:56:06.340
<v Speaker 3>Kipper the same I was equally touched. Then the music

0:56:06.739 --> 0:56:09.739
<v Speaker 3>was a major, major part of it.

0:56:11.060 --> 0:56:13.419
<v Speaker 2>So I have no problem at all with prayer I

0:56:13.460 --> 0:56:15.739
<v Speaker 2>have a problem with the traditional way of doing it.

0:56:16.500 --> 0:56:20.939
<v Speaker 3>By the way, the Sefara Dim do it differently. They

0:56:20.980 --> 0:56:23.540
<v Speaker 3>actually do read every word in the citter out loud,

0:56:23.540 --> 0:56:29.020
<v Speaker 3>they don't run through it like the Ashkenazi Orthodox. But

0:56:29.900 --> 0:56:34.820
<v Speaker 3>I find that as boring to sit and say every

0:56:34.900 --> 0:56:37.820
<v Speaker 3>single word of a large service. Does that answer you totally?

0:56:37.859 --> 0:56:40.779
<v Speaker 2>I need to know, because if not, you know, come

0:56:40.819 --> 0:56:53.540
<v Speaker 2>back to mess and how by taking from the traditional

0:56:53.580 --> 0:56:58.500
<v Speaker 2>prayer book but not everything, and by combining it frequently

0:56:58.580 --> 0:57:04.779
<v Speaker 2>with music, it does it for me, and different synagogues

0:57:04.779 --> 0:57:08.859
<v Speaker 2>will have to experiment. But the lack of experimentation in

0:57:08.859 --> 0:57:14.980
<v Speaker 2>this regard and is rather amazing to me. I understand

0:57:14.980 --> 0:57:17.780
<v Speaker 2>why the Orthodox don't experiment, and I fully respect that,

0:57:17.860 --> 0:57:20.780
<v Speaker 2>but I don't understand why the Conservative and reform are

0:57:20.820 --> 0:57:26.140
<v Speaker 2>so often addicted to ways that haven't worked. They look

0:57:26.180 --> 0:57:28.700
<v Speaker 2>at that, they look around, and in particular, I think

0:57:28.780 --> 0:57:32.980
<v Speaker 2>in many Conservative synagogues where the canter has gone to

0:57:33.060 --> 0:57:38.180
<v Speaker 2>cantorial school and has learned many cantorial melodies, there is

0:57:38.180 --> 0:57:44.900
<v Speaker 2>no congregational participation and he is basically a soloist for

0:57:45.260 --> 0:57:50.860
<v Speaker 2>on display that no longer works. When Jews could not

0:57:50.980 --> 0:57:54.860
<v Speaker 2>in Eastern Europe, afford opera tickets. It was the one

0:57:54.900 --> 0:57:57.939
<v Speaker 2>place they could hear a great voice. That is not

0:57:58.020 --> 0:58:01.939
<v Speaker 2>the case any longer. And the proof is that, by

0:58:02.020 --> 0:58:08.220
<v Speaker 2>and large Mite, this is purely an impressionistic reaction. I

0:58:08.220 --> 0:58:13.220
<v Speaker 2>think conservative are appealing the least between reform and orthodox

0:58:14.100 --> 0:58:17.900
<v Speaker 2>to a younger generation that is purely impressionistic and may

0:58:17.940 --> 0:58:19.620
<v Speaker 2>have no demographic basis.

0:58:19.620 --> 0:58:23.939
<v Speaker 3>But in terms of weekly attendants, I have frequently found that, you.

0:58:23.900 --> 0:58:26.340
<v Speaker 2>Know, I wrote an article in the second issue of

0:58:26.860 --> 0:58:30.300
<v Speaker 2>the journal that I write, I've now written thirty five issues.

0:58:30.340 --> 0:58:33.620
<v Speaker 2>This is a long time ago, and that the article

0:58:33.700 --> 0:58:38.460
<v Speaker 2>was titled when Rabbis and canters become doctors and artists.

0:58:40.380 --> 0:58:43.140
<v Speaker 3>You know the old saw. It certainly wasn't mine.

0:58:43.140 --> 0:58:48.140
<v Speaker 2>When when rabbis became doctors the Jews got sick, which,

0:58:48.180 --> 0:58:52.460
<v Speaker 2>by the way I subscribed to, I essentially subscribed to

0:58:52.500 --> 0:58:56.419
<v Speaker 2>that Judaism is not a subject to be studied. It

0:58:56.460 --> 0:58:59.980
<v Speaker 2>is a way of life to be lived. PhDs study things,

0:59:00.180 --> 0:59:04.220
<v Speaker 2>Rabbis teach things. There's a very big difference. Rabbis are

0:59:04.260 --> 0:59:08.140
<v Speaker 2>to inspire. The same thing happened though with canters they

0:59:08.140 --> 0:59:14.020
<v Speaker 2>became artists. It became a cantorial art. Now there is

0:59:14.060 --> 0:59:18.900
<v Speaker 2>an art, there's no question. But it was supposed to.

0:59:18.860 --> 0:59:21.939
<v Speaker 3>Be art in the service of inspiration and not art

0:59:21.980 --> 0:59:26.419
<v Speaker 3>for art's sake. Do you know after the article was.

0:59:26.420 --> 0:59:29.380
<v Speaker 2>Written, I got a letter I published in my journal

0:59:31.140 --> 0:59:34.220
<v Speaker 2>from the head of the Reform Cantorial School at the time,

0:59:35.380 --> 0:59:40.060
<v Speaker 2>and he said, and it's almost verbatim, whoever said the

0:59:40.100 --> 0:59:42.020
<v Speaker 2>purpose of a cantor was to inspire?

0:59:46.460 --> 0:59:49.820
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even react to the letter that it's so

0:59:50.060 --> 0:59:54.100
<v Speaker 3>self indicting from my perspective, whoever said the purpose of

0:59:54.100 --> 0:59:57.820
<v Speaker 3>a cantor was to inspire? Everybody says it except the

0:59:57.940 --> 1:00:04.300
<v Speaker 3>cantorial school. That's the answer to that empty synagogue say it.

1:00:04.940 --> 1:00:09.980
<v Speaker 3>That's who says it. So that's that's it could work.

1:00:10.220 --> 1:00:13.700
<v Speaker 3>It's a great book, it's great stuff. Thanks.

1:00:13.820 --> 1:00:19.660
<v Speaker 2>Yes, how did drig your hand up? I totally agree

1:00:19.700 --> 1:00:22.660
<v Speaker 2>with you. Just heard one critical word that I said.

1:00:23.340 --> 1:00:28.660
<v Speaker 2>My indictment was primarily of conservative So that's why I

1:00:28.700 --> 1:00:31.580
<v Speaker 2>totally agree with what you said back there.

1:00:31.620 --> 1:00:34.940
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm sorry, Rabbi. We introduce the services of feeling

1:00:35.180 --> 1:00:38.740
<v Speaker 3>class to uh can we discussed in the firstship hot

1:00:38.780 --> 1:00:41.900
<v Speaker 3>services that we have as FIRS all the problems and

1:00:42.060 --> 1:00:45.620
<v Speaker 3>problem out of you mentions doing that you raise this morning,

1:00:46.340 --> 1:00:50.260
<v Speaker 3>uh ass evolve as now monthly service. Uh These nons

1:00:50.740 --> 1:00:53.900
<v Speaker 3>mystical impmentations in the UNBO general they're want and Bible

1:00:53.980 --> 1:00:57.180
<v Speaker 3>and the junior services and them we deal uh in

1:00:57.340 --> 1:00:59.140
<v Speaker 3>discussion with issues of feeling.

1:00:59.180 --> 1:01:02.780
<v Speaker 2>From the Jewish perspective, you find that people who participate

1:01:02.900 --> 1:01:06.260
<v Speaker 2>are praying for people who have asked that we pray

1:01:06.380 --> 1:01:10.660
<v Speaker 2>or pray for loved ones who are in selfdale and

1:01:10.820 --> 1:01:13.380
<v Speaker 2>often healthcare professionals as well, the.

1:01:13.460 --> 1:01:17.100
<v Speaker 3>Craive that they have the ability to serve their patients. Well,

1:01:18.860 --> 1:01:21.540
<v Speaker 3>you wig of what you said before that healing, what

1:01:21.700 --> 1:01:27.220
<v Speaker 3>are your reactionists? From what I sense to the Jewish

1:01:27.260 --> 1:01:31.740
<v Speaker 3>belief day and God to the mission that position ever

1:01:31.860 --> 1:01:35.860
<v Speaker 3>careres the specifically we're healing on individual basis can be

1:01:36.260 --> 1:01:43.340
<v Speaker 3>offered in the midst of the right. As I said,

1:01:43.500 --> 1:01:46.340
<v Speaker 3>and I hope I made it clear, I myself say

1:01:46.380 --> 1:01:51.460
<v Speaker 3>them I do I come. We are all.

1:01:53.060 --> 1:01:58.820
<v Speaker 2>In some ways not totally integrated beings. I have Dennis

1:01:58.860 --> 1:02:02.540
<v Speaker 2>the Jew, I have Dennis the rationalist. I have Dennis

1:02:02.580 --> 1:02:06.820
<v Speaker 2>the moralist, Dennis the animal. Then you name it as

1:02:06.900 --> 1:02:10.060
<v Speaker 2>you do, as you do and so on. Dennis the

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<v Speaker 2>rationalist has a problem with please heal so and so

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<v Speaker 2>for the reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned, Dennis the Jew can offer it and do.

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<v Speaker 2>I might add, though, that there was a secondary or

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<v Speaker 2>if not even primary, alternate purpose to doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>When you come up here, if you have it that way,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know and say and Sonia Silberman and it's

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<v Speaker 3>got ben Ahern. It is an When.

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<v Speaker 2>I have done that for a particular relative I'm thinking of,

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<v Speaker 2>it meant a lot to me that her name was

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<v Speaker 2>announced to the community as in need of their amain. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>more than there's a better chance now that God's going

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<v Speaker 2>to send a drug. That's how I thought. But that

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<v Speaker 2>in itself is empowering. There are people behind me. When

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<v Speaker 2>my Christian friends tell me they have prayed for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I have been touched. And it's not even my religion.

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<v Speaker 2>So certainly if my own community says, oh, Dennis is

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<v Speaker 2>such and such as sick, we all.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, I mean to her recuperation. That's a very powerful thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I'm for it, sure, just that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want Jews to depend on it, because it's an invitation

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<v Speaker 3>to angst and ultimately atheism. That's why that's why I

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<v Speaker 3>spoke against.

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<v Speaker 2>It so strongly, to the extent that I did. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but surely it must be done. There's another reason, and

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<v Speaker 2>I meant to say this in my talk. If God

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<v Speaker 2>is my friend, my father, my heavenly father, how could

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<v Speaker 2>I not share with him what I want? Not in

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<v Speaker 2>the sense of petition, but in the sense of I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling him. Don't you don't tell your friend you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Jerry.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish my I don't know my cousin were feeling better.

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<v Speaker 3>He's really sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you tell that to a dear friend. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell it to God, God, the author of

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<v Speaker 2>all possible remedies. I'm not going to tell I wish

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<v Speaker 2>somebody were well.

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<v Speaker 3>So that I'm glad you pushed me further in this

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<v Speaker 3>to make it clear, because there's such a fine line

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<v Speaker 3>between rejecting it and relying on it. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>jeus to rely on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, back there, Yes, okay, And if I didn't answer you,

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<v Speaker 2>please rise again and tell me how does having an

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<v Speaker 2>intermarriage affect one's Jewish identity?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Frankly, by and large, and there are always exceptions, at

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat putting the cart before the horse. Mostly one had

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<v Speaker 2>a fairly weak Jewish identity in order to intermarry. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not the intermarriage that causes a weakening of the Jewish identity,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Jewish idea identity was fairly weak, and therefore

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<v Speaker 2>the intermarriage was allowed. This is not an indictment. It

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<v Speaker 2>is merely a description people with a very strong Jewish identity.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just as if you have a very strong

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<v Speaker 2>passion for anything, if you have a strong passion for animals,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a good chance you will marry somebody who, at least,

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<v Speaker 2>if nothing else, is not oblivious to animal suffering. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the odds are if you care a great deal about

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<v Speaker 2>how animals are treated, you wouldn't marry a man who

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<v Speaker 2>loved bullfights. Okay, we do the things we most care about.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't only marry on love. Some do and find

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<v Speaker 2>that in the long run you need more than love,

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<v Speaker 2>not less than love, but more than love. And therefore

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what effect it has on the identity.

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<v Speaker 3>It can't be a strengthening one. Usually. Having said that,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't mean it's ever too late.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, one of the most common problems I have

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<v Speaker 2>I hear when I go around around North America lecturing

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<v Speaker 2>and already have twice here, one a husband and one

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<v Speaker 2>a wife.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is it is. I hear it everywhere I go.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is with two.

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<v Speaker 2>Jews married, not a Jew in a non Jew, that

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<v Speaker 2>one in adulthood became seriously Jewish and the other one

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<v Speaker 2>did not move in that direction. It is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most sad problems said, because it's not the one

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<v Speaker 2>who didn't move fault. When a spouse changes, the non

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<v Speaker 2>changing spouse has a right to say, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not what I married.

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<v Speaker 3>I fully understand that. My heart goes out to both

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<v Speaker 3>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>To the Jew who is becoming more seriously Jewish, my

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<v Speaker 2>heart goes out because I want you to be more

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<v Speaker 2>seriously Jewish. Thought of a secular life frightens me. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so boring at its inner core, it is empty. On

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<v Speaker 2>the other hand, I feel terrible for the other spouse, who,

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<v Speaker 2>through no fault of his or her own, has a

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<v Speaker 2>new person that they're married to. That is why ideally

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<v Speaker 2>one has grown up Jewishly before marrying.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the ideal.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't live in an ideal world, and I

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<v Speaker 2>fully acknowledge that. But if you can somehow know where

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<v Speaker 2>you are or where you're moving before, or at least

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<v Speaker 2>defer marriage till you have made peace with that evolution.

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<v Speaker 2>But even then it's no guarantee because people still will

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<v Speaker 2>evolve later. I don't know if that fully answers you,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's the identity needs to precede the marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the ideal child of an intermarriage. Okay, if there

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<v Speaker 3>is a I'm sorry, I was the last line. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>By reform Judaism, a child of any Jewish parent, male

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<v Speaker 2>or female is considered Jewish.

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<v Speaker 3>According to a.

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<v Speaker 2>Conservative and Orthodox it's the child of a Jewish mother only.

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<v Speaker 2>But in real life, the question is what does the

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<v Speaker 2>child think of himself? Not what does Jewish law think

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<v Speaker 2>of them? Because if you don't care, who cares what

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish law thinks of you? If you don't care about Judaism,

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<v Speaker 2>So the ultimate question in life is what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think you are? Not what is the what does Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>law think you are? And that depends on the Jewish parent.

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<v Speaker 2>It also depends on the non Jewish parent being open. However, statistically,

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<v Speaker 2>I am told that the great majority of children of

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<v Speaker 2>intermarriage do not opt for a Jewish identity, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is not surprising that they wouldn't who who in the

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<v Speaker 2>world opts to be a minority in Israel, they would

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<v Speaker 2>opt to be Jewish because Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>In Israel, the Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>Are a majority, so all intermarried couples should make aliyah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, do you think that the help to the general

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<v Speaker 3>problem of the feeling for the evil?

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<v Speaker 2>Does prayer help you deal with the general problem, deal

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<v Speaker 2>pragmatically with the with the problem of evil.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it does for many people. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 3>how I deal with it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not so much through prayer as it is through

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<v Speaker 2>a knowledge that there is a God, that God doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want the evil to behave the way they do, that

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<v Speaker 2>they will ultimately pay for what have done. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>deeply in an after life, or I would probably go mad.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the more aware you are of cruelty in

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<v Speaker 2>this world, the more your sanity depends on some ultimate justice.

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<v Speaker 2>At least that's how I feel, because I am deeply

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<v Speaker 2>conscious of the horrors that people inflict on others. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what keeps me sane, rather than prayer in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 2>But my weekly attendance at a synagogue is an island.

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<v Speaker 3>Of peace in a turbulent world. It is my own profession.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone has his or her own challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot do what a lot of people I know do,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is tune out from you know, Bosnian rapes,

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<v Speaker 2>Somalian starvation, homeless diseases, fires, tornadoes. I not only have

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<v Speaker 2>to know about them, I have to immerse myself in

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<v Speaker 2>them and then talk about them three hours a day.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Shabbat to me, you know, I'm working very

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<v Speaker 2>hard this Shabbat, and yet in some ways it is effortless,

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<v Speaker 2>beyond effortless. It's rejuvenating to be with fellow Jews. Talking

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<v Speaker 2>tore is my favorite thing in the world. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute delight. My wife is amazed at my stamina.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I flew yesterday after five hours of sleep

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<v Speaker 2>NonStop across the country, got dressed, came here, spoke last night.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on LA time right now. So my day started

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<v Speaker 2>this morning at six o'clock LA time talking Judaism. Got

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<v Speaker 2>another talk tonight, good, another one tomorrow morning Tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 3>In Virginia. Fly three o'clock in the morning LA Time

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday and do my show in the afternoon and

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<v Speaker 3>then in the evening teach Genesis I have a busy man,

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<v Speaker 3>do you know, I I it doesn't eat me up

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<v Speaker 3>because I love it. This to do a.

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish weekend, which I do, thank God, frequently, and by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, in almost every instance, bring my family or

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<v Speaker 2>at least one member of the family. And the only

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<v Speaker 2>reason my wife. She was scheduled to be with me today.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's Aaron's first birthday, and I wouldn't have missed that.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was scheduled before we even knew they would

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<v Speaker 2>be an Aaron. So it's quite all right, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very happy to be here anyway. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 2>knows that it's his first birthday. I like all Jewish parents.

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<v Speaker 2>He's brilliant, but not that brilliant, thank God, I might add.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is powerful stuff. This is sanity inducing stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Get together and sing, you know, at the place I

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<v Speaker 2>go in La we goes like this. We have an

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<v Speaker 2>hour of service from ten to eleven. Rabbi leads a

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<v Speaker 2>tora discussion from eleven to twelve, and then from twelve

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<v Speaker 2>to two. People all bring dairy pot luck food and

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<v Speaker 2>we sit and we sing for two hours. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe how much I enjoy it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it is an island. It is just an island, And

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<v Speaker 2>I commend the idea to you. It's so it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the prayer itself as it is this Jewish whole, whole.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing that does it for me anybody else. Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 3>it seems to me that the four points that you

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<v Speaker 3>mean about types of prayer uni primarily those types that

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<v Speaker 3>actual understanding of what one was doing. Yes, the rest. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>The more the aspect that I come across in many

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<v Speaker 3>books about the Jewish prayer, that it has more the

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<v Speaker 3>almost mantra like power of the U language. Yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 3>It's a very good point.

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<v Speaker 2>And for the second time I ever give this talk,

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<v Speaker 2>I will have to incorporate that.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll probably be when you invite me back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the only rabbi in America who's asked me to

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<v Speaker 2>speak on this, then I salute him.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there is a monstra like power. Harold Kushner has

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<v Speaker 2>made that point. I don't know Aramaic, certainly not well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I I know a little cause of the gamura,

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<v Speaker 2>cause of the talmut, but the cottish, the the prayer

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<v Speaker 2>we say in commemorating the death of someone is an

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<v Speaker 2>Aramaic ninety nine percent of Jews saying it don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what they're saying, but it has an an unbelievable power

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<v Speaker 2>godal Goddah shemeh Rabba.

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<v Speaker 3>Just as I intelle it now right, if we were

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<v Speaker 3>to say it in English, magnify and sanctify, be the

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<v Speaker 3>great name, it would not have one tenth of.

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<v Speaker 2>Power, even though you don't know the original. You're right,

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<v Speaker 2>there is an element of that. And the Orthodox would

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<v Speaker 2>argue that not dwelling on every word is okay because

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<v Speaker 2>there is perhaps this greater montral like power.

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<v Speaker 3>And I respect that. Say, I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually a living pluralist, a living and breathing Jewish pluralist.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not Orthodox, but there is no part of

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<v Speaker 2>me that thinks that they are invalid. I gave it

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<v Speaker 2>a forty year chance. That's a long time, that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people who fall in love with it overnight. Fine,

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<v Speaker 2>not just fine, terrific. Is there anybody who rather have

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<v Speaker 2>a Jew secular than Orthodox?

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<v Speaker 3>There may be, but I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I asked the Orthodox, would you rather have a

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<v Speaker 2>Jew secular than reform? And there were some who would

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<v Speaker 2>And it's crazy, just crazy. So I appreciate that that

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<v Speaker 2>could be powerful. I am too much in the brain.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a creature of Judaism and Western Greek rationality,

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<v Speaker 2>and so are the vast majority of my peers, which

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<v Speaker 2>is why they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Not in shule.

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<v Speaker 2>And to them I address these comments. I guess that's

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<v Speaker 2>the most honest way I could respond.

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