1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Shammer and this is Josh Shammer Show. Lots 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: going on in the news. The Prime Minister of Japan 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: met with Donald Trump in the White House earlier today, 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: much going on in the war against the Ronnie regime overseas. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: We have an update for you when it comes to 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Joe Kent, the disgraced former director of the National counter 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Terrorism Center who's currently being FBI investigated. Also, our friend 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Rachel Bovart joins us shortly for an update on what 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: is happening with the Save America Act and the debate 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: over the debate as to whether to force Democrats to 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: mount a talk and philibuster. All that in today's episode 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: of The Josh Shammer Show, but for now we begin 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: with this. Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are the two leaders, 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: the two respective leaders of the Democratic Caucuses. Their party 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: is of mixed at best shall we say, popularity according 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: to all the polls that we have. In fact, the 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: only saving grace right now when you look at Republicans, 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: we're currently facing a lot of economic life of economic headwinds, 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: a lot of traditional just structural headwinds are going into 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: a midterm election year with your party controlling the White House, 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: typically this is a very uphill battle to weich try 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,279 Speaker 1: to maintain control of one at this point also both 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: Houses of Congress. The only staying grace really Republicans at 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: this time is that the Democratic brand embody by people 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: like Coquem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer is really, really, really 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: stink and low. It is not just in the toilet, 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: it is frankly in the sewer. The latest evidence of 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: this was some Democratic primaries from this past Tuesday out 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: in Illinois. You might say, Josh, what do Democrat primaries 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: have to tell you about the popularity of the Democratic Party. Well, 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: what they said was that the left wing of the 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, which this party has been pretty much uniformly 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: leaning into for at least five years now, they got walloped. 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: So the AOC wing, the squad lost up and down 35 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: the ballots in these primaries happening over in the Land 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: of Lincoln in the state of Illinois just this past Tuesday, 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: All these squad endorsed or or dsay Democrats, Socials America 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: sympathetic members were essentially all just gutted in their primaries, 39 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: which in theory ostensibly is good news for Hakeem Jeffries 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: and Chuck Schumer, because they are not particularly well liked 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: by the insurgent radical left wing of the Democratic Party. 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: But in theory it is something of a soft rebuke 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: to the Democratic brands. But the firmer rebukes the Democratic 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: brand comes when you actually look at what some of 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: the actual issues are the Democrats are acting or is 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: the case may be, are not acting upon. So the 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: number one bill that is currently pending in the USN 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: it's already passed the House, is the Save America Act 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: is an updated version of what was previously known simply 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: as the Save Act. It is a comprehensive statute that 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: would essentially secure American elections from the threats of a 52 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: legal alien subversion. It is accords daud Trump, and absolutely indispensable, 53 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: must pass peace of legislation. He is saying that he 54 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: will not consider or sign any other bill other than 55 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: a bill to fund the Department of Homeland Security. We'll get 56 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: to that just a moment here. Other than this particular bill. 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: The what the bill would do is, among other things, 58 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: it would require voter id would require proof of citizenship 59 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: when it comes to actually registering to vote. In the 60 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: first place, these are not particularly partisan issues. Gallup, for instance, 61 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: found eighty four percent support across the board for voter ID, 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: ninety eight percent for publican approval, sixty seven percent of 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: Democrats approved, Pew Research Center finding eighty three percent of Americans, 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: including majorities of every racial or ethnic subgroup, Whites, blacks, Latinos, 65 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: you name it. So this is a very very popular 66 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: peace of legislation. And there is a debate happening inside 67 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: the center Republican Caucus right now being led by John 68 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: fun the somewhat efeckless leader of the center Republican Caucus, 69 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: somewhat perhaps being a little too charitable if anything. And 70 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: the debate is essentially how to get this bill that 71 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: Don Trump calls a must pass peaceful legislation passed, And 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the hardliners, people like Mike Lee of Utah, 73 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: who I interned for many moves ago and things very 74 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: highly of. Michael Lee, basically said that if your a 75 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: Republican center is not supportive of all tactics, including using 76 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: the talking filibuster to actually force Democrats to talk about 77 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: this bill until they can't talk anymore, then you should 78 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: vote the bums out. A lot of these more milktoast 79 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: colleagues in the caucus. We're not happy with him, but 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: he was fundamentally correct. This bill really, really, really ought 81 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: to pass. And the only reason that we're even having 82 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: this debate over whether or not we should force Democrats 83 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: to do a talking filibuster, and by we in this case, 84 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: I just mean Republicans whether consertives should force Democrats to 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: do a talking filibuster. The only reason that this debate's 86 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: even happening is because Democrats don't support this. Then maybe, 87 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: maybe maybe John Fetterman, maybe John Firmon, by the way, 88 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: was the only reason that Mark Wayne Mullen, the new 89 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: nominee to replace Chris Noma DHS, John Fairman provided the 90 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: vote to actually get Mark Wayne Mullen out of committee 91 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: after his highly contentious confirmation hearing just yesterday. So Ran Paul, 92 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: the chairman of the committee, voted no on that, John 93 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: Fairman crossing the political aisle to vote yes. So Fetterman 94 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: maybe maybe would vote yes on the Save America Acts. 95 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't bank on it for what's worth, but it's possible. 96 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: But really, no one else so they're not going to 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: be able to simply invoke clature and get to sixty votes. 98 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: So this is a big problem, and that's why we're 99 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: going to have this drawn out debate over this deeply, 100 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: deeply common sensical piece of legislation that again, when you 101 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: actually look at the actual criteria when it comes to 102 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: vote or id when it comes to prove a relationship 103 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: has approval ratings or support ratings something in the seventy 104 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: five to eighty five percent category, give or take. On 105 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: the other hand, Democrats are also refusing to reopen the 106 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security they's been dragging on for weeks 107 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: and weeks and weeks now, and specifically, what they're refusing 108 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: to do is they are refusing to consider, to even 109 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: countenance any kind of new DHS funding bill unless Republicans 110 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: make concessions when it comes to immigration. Now, the irony 111 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: of this, and what Democrats apparently think that we the 112 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: people are too stupid to realize, is that all the 113 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: immigration components of the federal governments within DHS, when it 114 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: comes to etc. CPP, it's all been funded already. It's 115 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: not even an issue. The funding is there. So the 116 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: only debate are over the parts of DHS that are 117 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: currently shut down, things like TSA, and some of these 118 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: images that are coming through these videos are shocking. TSA 119 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: security wait times at Hartsfield Jackson in Atlanta. This is 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: one of the largest airports by passenger traffic in the 121 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: entire world. This morning reached over ninety minutes on the 122 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: TSA security line. All sorts of other airports, whether it's Philadelphia, 123 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: New Orleans, Houston, reporting increases in wait times at TSA 124 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: by more than fifty percent there. It is a veritable 125 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: variable mess. And the deputy administrator of the TSA, man 126 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: the name of Adam Stahl, had this to say on 127 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: CBS News talking about how TSA employees are hurting. They 128 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: are hurting right now. They're sleeping in your cars. Pretty 129 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: pretty crazy stuff. Go ahead and watch those people are hurting. 130 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: Every single dead we have individuals are sleeping in their cars, 131 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: drawing blood to afford to pay for gas to get 132 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: to work. So the situation financially is dire for off 133 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: acting Deputy TSA Administrator, Adam stall If the caller A 134 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: does climb, there could be scenarios where we may have to. 135 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: Shut down airports. 136 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: This is a serious situation. 137 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: It sounds like every day this goes on. 138 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: You think it's gonna get worse. 139 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: Yes, the longer we do not receive funding of both 140 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: the Department and for TSA, this will get worse. 141 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: This will not get better. Adam sal the debut Administrative TSA, 142 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: speaking there on CBS Evening News. Here's what Speaker Mike 143 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: Johnson had to say. He had a very similar line. 144 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and watch this with Speaker Mike Johnson. 145 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: The House Democrats and IT Democrats had joined together, the 146 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: same group that gave us wide open borders and defunding 147 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: the police. Sean, they're added again, they are refusing to 148 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: reopen TSA and FEMA for the American people unless they 149 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: can also reopen the borders for illegal alien. 150 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: So what is at the our Democrats doing Why exactly 151 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: are they doing this? Well, they're banking that on a 152 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: strategy of essentially just burning everything down and blaming it 153 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump. Rinson repeats, how I know that because 154 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: the actually a time say the quiet part out loud. 155 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: It was a congressman from Virginia, a Democrat by the 156 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: name of Don Bayer, who had a remarkable quote. Every 157 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: so often one of these guys is say quote where 158 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: you just say the quiet part out loud and as 159 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: is antly what Congressman Don Bayer of Virginia said in 160 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: speaking about the DHS shutdown and what is Antey's is accomplishment. 161 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: Congressman Buyer said this. He said, quote, it's not forcing 162 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: any change in the meantime, we're making people hurt. The 163 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: long lines that can't make us more popular. We're on 164 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: the right side of ice, he said, but not on 165 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: the rest. Okay, well they're not on the right side 166 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: of ice, but hold that aside for now. He is 167 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: literally admitting that the Democrats are currently making people hurt. 168 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: He is saying that explicitly. 169 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: So. 170 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: One of the questions that I have in watching all 171 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: this when it comes to the Save America Act debates, 172 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to this legislation that has overwhelming support 173 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: across the entire political demographic subsections of America, when it 174 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: comes to voter id when it comes to proof of citizenship, 175 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to TSA, when it comes to DHS. 176 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: There they are literally saying the airports might be shut down, folks. 177 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: Easter Sunday is two weeks from this Sunday. For us 178 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: to just pass over as coming up two weeks as well, 179 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: This is a time where people are traveling. Do you 180 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: want to risk the airports being shut down? Do you 181 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: want to deal with hour and a half long TSA 182 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: security lines at the airport? This is nuts and why 183 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: is the media seemingly not covering in this? In anything, 184 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: we're multi resembling an objective perspective. There should be wall 185 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: to work, wall to wall coverage over the fact that 186 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: a bill they Save America Act that has massive, massive 187 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: support is currently not being allowed to even get a 188 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: straight up thumbs of thumbs down vote because well, there's 189 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: basically one and most Democrat who might support it is 190 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: you have to kind of potentially force a talking filbuster 191 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: or do various other tactics that will discuss shortly. When 192 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: it comes to our guests here, Rachel Bovart, when it 193 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: comes to DHS, what is out the other doing out 194 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: is the angle here. It is chaos for the sake 195 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: of chaos, and is chaos for the sake of then 196 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: essentially making your room dirty and then saying that someone 197 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: else forced you to do it. They are essentially just 198 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: throwing trash everywhere and then blaming the younger sibling or 199 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: blaming someone else is saying, ah, no, he forced me 200 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: to do it is trying to blame Donald Trump essentially for 201 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: their own mess. And this is in theory, the role 202 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: of the fourth estate, the role of the media. I 203 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: just say, no, that's actually not what's happening here. What's 204 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: actually happening is that you guys, is that you guys 205 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: are causing a mess for the sake of causing a mess. 206 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: By the way, it's not necessarily a whole lot better 207 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to the foreign policy stuff either. Ever 208 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: since Donald Trump launched this righteous war, he'd really launched it, 209 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: frankly Ron launched this war forty seven years or ever 210 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: since Donald Trump decided to enter any more concerned effort 211 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: operation epic theory, there would have Democrats done. I mean, admittedly, 212 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: only some of them are crying over the fact that 213 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: people like Ali Komeny, the so called Diatola, are dead. 214 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're all doing that. They're not 215 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: EXACTI though, supporting this, are they? You hear a lot 216 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: of rhetoric to the contrary, And this is Donald Trump's war. 217 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: What is he doing? What is he doing? What is 218 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: he doing? No, it's really not. It's actually the Irani 219 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: regimes war. And now they've been so obsessed with trying 220 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: to force various votes to either cut off funding or 221 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: to force a congressional authorization or this or that there, 222 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: they've been pretty far from supportive. So they're basically just 223 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: acting in a deeply obstructionist fashion. And fundamentally, the proper 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: framing of what we're seeing here tying all these trands 225 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: together is that what we see is that Chuck Schumer 226 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: and the Kim Jeffries are launching a concerted attack on 227 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: we the people, on we, the red hearted American patriots, 228 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: on we the constitutionals, we the conservatives, We who love 229 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: this country dearly from enemies both foreign and domestic, who 230 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: want secure elections, who wants well funded airports, who want 231 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: to be able to travel in airports, and who want 232 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: to defeat terrorists abroad who seek to kill us first. 233 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: That's really not asking a lot. That's asking for just 234 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: sound governance. Unfortunately, Chuck Schumer and Hikim Jeffrees have no 235 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: right now in providing that to us. So returning to 236 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: join the program today is a good friend of the 237 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: show and a good friend of mine, that is Rachel Bovar. 238 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: Rachel is the vice president Programs at CPI Conservative Partnership 239 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: Institute also just an all around sage of the Senate. 240 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: Rachel Bovar noted Senate sage among other hats and titles 241 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: that you wear. So she joined us now to discuss 242 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: the ongoing debate over the debate as the case may 243 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: be when it comes to the Save America Act. Rachel, 244 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: let's zoom out a little bit here this audience. I 245 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: think he knows that this legislation is about voter idea, 246 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: it's about proof, resisztenship, all these things that have overwhelming 247 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: support for the American people. So the discussion in the 248 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: Republican caucus with people like Mitch McConnell's side, is not 249 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: so much whether this legislation is good and should be passed. Rather, 250 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: the debate is more about how this can be passed 251 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: with a fifty plus one majority. Donald Trump saying this 252 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: must pass legislation. John Thune's been all over the map. 253 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: Where do you thinks stand at this time? Kind of 254 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: update doesn't fill us in as to what the current 255 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: state of play is when it comes to passing this 256 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: bill in the Senate. 257 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 5: Well, so, after months of resisting calls to actually move 258 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 5: to the legislation. John Thune made the decision, yes, we 259 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: are going to put this bill on the floor. So 260 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 5: earlier this week he proceeded to the bill. So that's 261 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 5: the first step in considering the bill. And because of 262 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 5: the way the House Senate over the Republican House passed 263 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 5: this bill, sent it to the Senate in a way 264 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 5: that was privileged. It's called a House message. So normally 265 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 5: when you get on a bill, you have to break 266 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 5: a filibuster on that process. But because it was sent 267 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: over this way, it only required fifty one votes from 268 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 5: the Republicans to get on this bill. So you saw 269 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 5: Mitch McConnell, even though he opposes the legislation, supported proceeding 270 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 5: to it, while Lisa Murkowski from Alaska voted no, and 271 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: Tom Tillis from North Carolina retiring just took a walk, 272 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 5: just didn't even vote. So but they got the fifty 273 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 5: one necessary to get on the bill and now they 274 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 5: are with what we call on the bill in the Senate. 275 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 5: So they are debating it. And what John Thune did 276 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 5: in that moment, as he said, I'm not you know, 277 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 5: he said he doesn't want to do a talking filibuster. 278 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 5: He doesn't think he has the votes for it. But 279 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 5: he went to the floor and he filled the amendment tree. 280 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 5: So that's simply a device that allows a certain number 281 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 5: of amendments to be pending before the Senate at one time. 282 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 5: And that included some of the changes that President Trump 283 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: wants to see to the legislation. If you remember this 284 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 5: truth social that he put out saying, in addition to 285 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 5: voter id we should do you know, stuff on malon ballots, 286 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 5: we should ban trans surgeries for minors, and we should 287 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: protect you know, girls' sports from male participation. 288 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: Things like that. 289 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: All of those changes are now in the amendment tree. 290 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 5: But what he didn't do, and this is kind of 291 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 5: how the Senate operates normally, is that you move to 292 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 5: end debate before debate ever happens, you file cloture on 293 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 5: the question. He did not do that, and so what's 294 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 5: happening now is actually a real deliberative process to some 295 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 5: extent on the Senate floor, and it makes the Senate 296 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 5: floor more open than it's been in about a decade. 297 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 5: So he's not forcing a talking filibuster person say, but 298 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 5: the Senate is actually debating, The Senate is moving, the 299 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 5: Senate is considering the question And what's fascinating about this is, 300 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 5: you know, after a multiple months of Chuck Schumer and 301 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 5: the Democrats saying this bill is, you know, Jim Crow 302 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: two point zero and we could never support it, you 303 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 5: saw Chuck Schumer actually say, I think a day ago 304 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 5: or two days ago, oh well, we don't oppose the 305 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 5: voter id part right. And so this is really important 306 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 5: because this is what happens when you actually deliberate in 307 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: the Senate. 308 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: You have no idea. 309 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 5: The political pressure it puts on people yields unpredictable and 310 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 5: interesting results. So in my mind, Chuck Schumer has just 311 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 5: given Republicans an opening to start negotiating something that maybe 312 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 5: at the end could result in something getting sixty votes. 313 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: So I think I actually missed that, and that is 314 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: a positively shocking concession, frankly from Chuck Schumer. It really 315 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: was not that long ago. Back in Georgia in twenty 316 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: twenty one, the first year of the Biden presidency, they 317 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: were calling the Georgia Bill all the time, Jim Crow 318 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: two point zero, Jim Crow and stereo. It's all these 319 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: Hollywood studios are moving out of Georgia because they said 320 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: it was an oppressive, racist state, and the debate then 321 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: was essentially just voter IDs. So if Chuck Schumer is 322 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: now conceding that even his own party, because again Democrats 323 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: actually pull in favor of voter ID as well as 324 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: not a partisan issues, is not a conservative versus liberal 325 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: issue there, that's frankly a shocking concession. So with that 326 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: in mind and kind of turning your attention to what 327 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: this now looks like over the next week two weeks, 328 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: how long is this going to play out? I think 329 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: a lot of folks Rachel had this conception that a 330 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: bill is producing committee again then gets to the floor 331 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: there and the floor is like a very quick process. 332 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: It's like a quick like thumbs up thumbs down kind 333 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: of thing, and that's essentially not how it works there. 334 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: So how long is this going to take there? And 335 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: especially with these Schumer comments in mind, are you perhaps 336 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: more optimistic for a positive outcome than maybe you were 337 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: just about a week ago or so? 338 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, to your point, the reason a lot 339 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 5: of us were pushing this talking filibuster strategy was just 340 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 5: to get to the bill to the floor because it's 341 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 5: an eighty percent issue and it's so common sense voter 342 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 5: I d that a lot of people think it's already 343 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 5: the law. So our theory and our thesis was if 344 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 5: you actually force Democrats into deliberation, it could produce some 345 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 5: kind of negotiated outcome here. And that is what is 346 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 5: so encouraging about seeing Chuck Schumer a day into this saying, oh, well, 347 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 5: maybe there is an opening. And what that portends is 348 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 5: how the Senate has passed legislation for literally two hundred years. 349 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: Right, it's this. 350 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 5: You put a bill on the floor, you amend it, 351 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 5: You see where the votes are. You may be compromise, 352 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 5: maybe you take a clot your vote to see where 353 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 5: things are. Then you return to the negotiating table, you 354 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 5: try again. That does take time, and you know, John 355 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: Thune said, well, we'll spend maybe a week on this bill. 356 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 5: But I think what people want to see is, you know, 357 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 5: not just one filed cloture vote causing everybody to throw 358 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 5: up their hands and move on to the next thing. No, 359 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: we want a repeated and consistent effort to consider this bill. Now, 360 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 5: the Senate will have to do other things, right, They 361 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 5: have to confirm Mark wayn Mullen, they have to reauthorize FISA, 362 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: they have to maybe do a DHS deal. That's fine, right, 363 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: they can move to do that, But the expectation should 364 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 5: be this is not over. We are going to continue 365 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 5: to work on this bill. We're going to bring it 366 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 5: up to the floor again. We are not going to 367 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 5: let a single failed closure vote just decide how this 368 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 5: is going to be handled. Now, this is a muscle 369 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 5: that the Senate has not flexed in a very long time, 370 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 5: this sort of deliberative negotiating process. But I do think 371 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 5: Chuck Schumer has given an opening to Republicans. It would 372 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 5: be nice if they would take. 373 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Republicans, as you and I both know Rachel from 374 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: falling this for a long time now, have this unique 375 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: ability to never missed opportunity, to miss an opportunity, which 376 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: kind of then leads to my next question, which is 377 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: John Coryn himself. Korn is a card carrying member of 378 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: the publican establishment if ever there ever was one. He 379 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: actually did something of a bit of a John Kerry 380 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: flip flop on the issue of the talking filibuster. He 381 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: had a very interesting New York post op ed in 382 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: the context of this pressure from Ken Paxson's primary challenger 383 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: down in Texas. There cornin seemingly is now open to 384 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: this strategy that you and others have been pushing for 385 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: a while, of the talking filibuster. John Thune, last i checked, 386 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: as you already indicated in our conversation, has not yet 387 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: fully endorsed this yet. So is Thune ready and willing 388 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: at this point to actually put every tactic available to 389 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: get Donald Trump's must pass piece of legislation, they Save 390 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: America Act, passed, or is he still waffling and equivocating. 391 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 5: He does not want to do the talking filibuster, and 392 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 5: what he will say is I don't have the votes 393 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 5: in my conference to do that. What he means is 394 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 5: he does not have, he thinks, the votes in the 395 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 5: Conference of Republicans to table or kill democratic amendments that 396 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 5: would be offered in that process, because when you have 397 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 5: a talking filibuster, it is a wide open deliberation in 398 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 5: the Senate. Any senator can offer amendments, and he thinks 399 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 5: that some of these amendments would be too difficult for 400 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 5: Republicans to vote against. However, if you saw the interview 401 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 5: he did with Brett Baer earlier this week, he listed 402 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 5: off several topics meaning they could offer amendments on ACA 403 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 5: subsidies or war powers in the Iran war, and trade 404 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 5: and tariffs and all these things. Republicans have already had 405 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 5: to vote down those things. They voted on everything from 406 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 5: the Epstein files to Trump tariffs. They've already done this. 407 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 5: So the idea that somehow they just can't get themselves 408 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 5: together to do it again, I think is a little 409 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 5: bit ridicu But at the end of the day, a 410 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 5: talking filibuster is also very hard, right. It requires a 411 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 5: lot of physical effort from both sides of the aisle. 412 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 5: It requires the Senate to stay in session pretty much, 413 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 5: you know, continuously, with not a lot of breaks. And 414 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 5: as we know, that's also a muscle. The Senate doesn't 415 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 5: flex very often. They work two and a half days 416 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 5: a week, right, It's a pretty cushy schedule. And so 417 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 5: I think he doesn't want to go that road. Has 418 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 5: he ruled it out entirely, I don't think so. The 419 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 5: strategy he's chosen right now with the amendmentry doesn't rule 420 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 5: it out entirely. So you hope that he's able to 421 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 5: sort of, you know, move with the EBB and flow 422 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 5: of the political process and really you know, force Democrats 423 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 5: to the map either through negotiation or by you know, 424 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: more hardball procedural tactics. 425 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: So what it seems to me, what I can hear 426 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: from you, is that now is a time to mount 427 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: an even more aggressive full court prece essentially, which is 428 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: where people like Mike Lee com In who have been 429 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: just full throat proponents of this legislation, it's time for 430 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: folks like that, time for folks like me and you 431 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: to kind of really amp this level up. So, Rachel, 432 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: just about a minute left you before I have to 433 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: let you go. But real quick, what's going to happen 434 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: within the next month. If you have to make an 435 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: actual prediction, put on your prognostication hat one month from 436 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: now called a month and a half from now, is 437 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: this bill going to be signed to law? 438 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: Anything is possible. I think Schumer has given them an 439 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 5: opening I didn't even see coming this early in the process. 440 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 5: So I think if they take it seriously, it's possible 441 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 5: we see some sort of bipartisan product. What I actually 442 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 5: think will happen is Thune we'll try to move off 443 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 5: this bill entirely at the end of one failed cloture vote. 444 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 5: I think he is dying to move off it to 445 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 5: something else. So I do think the expectation has to 446 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 5: be given to the Republican Senate. It is fine for 447 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 5: you to go do the time sensitive things you need 448 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: to do, but we do not expect this to be over. 449 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 5: This is a concerted effort that you need to put 450 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 5: in for the rest of the year until this bill 451 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 5: is passed. 452 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: And that's going to take work. 453 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 5: It's going to take negotiation, it's going to take political 454 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 5: skill and strategy, and that is what we the voters 455 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 5: expect from our Senate. 456 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: Well hearting into that, Rachel Bovart, Folks follow her on 457 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: x at Rachel Bovart VP, Programs at CPI, Consertive Punisham 458 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: Institute all round stage of the set there, Rachel, my friend, 459 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: I think we joined us. We really do appreciate it as. 460 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 5: Always, Thanks Josh. 461 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: So, while all this is unfolding and percolating on the 462 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: domestic front when it comes to the Save of America Act, 463 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to the DHS funding standoff, things very 464 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: much still happening overseas as well, perhaps above all, when 465 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: it comes to the islam Republic of Iran. So there 466 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: was a press conference at the Pentagon Justice morning, Pete 467 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: Hegseth confirming the Secretary of War that he is seeking 468 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: additional two hundred billion dollars in more funding to prosecute 469 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: the war against Iran. Your mileage may vary as to 470 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: exactly how you weigh whether this that this money is 471 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: worth it. Our stance here on the show is that 472 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: this war is forty seven years overdue because Iran essentially 473 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: declared war on US forty seven years ago. There, Pete 474 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: Heexseth has been nothing but firmly defensive of his boss, 475 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: perhaps in contrast to some other people within the administration. 476 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: We get to that in just the moment here. But 477 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: here was Petexath speaking at the Pentagon this morning about 478 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: what the missions are. A lot of folks say, what 479 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: is the mission? What is the goal here? Operation epic theory? 480 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: Well ptext saying this very very clearly this morning watched this. 481 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 6: Our objectives, given directly from our America first President, remain 482 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 6: exactly what they were on day one. These are not 483 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 6: the media's objectives, not Iran's objectives, not new objectives. Our 484 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 6: objectives unchanged on target and on plan, destroy missiles, launchers 485 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 6: and Iran's defense industrial base so they cannot rebuild, destroy 486 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 6: their navy and Iran never gets a nuclear weapon. Our 487 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 6: objectives from day one. 488 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: Pretty clear stuff. And that's what we've been saying on 489 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: the show since day one as well, is that success 490 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: and victory and Operation Epic theory is defined as the 491 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: neutralization of Iran as a threat to the United States 492 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: and our interest, period, full stop, end of story. That's 493 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: exactly what PT. Texas has said there. That's we've been 494 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: saying all along, if all, though all the individuals within 495 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: the administration could bring themselves to so fulsomely defend President 496 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: Trump's righteous, righteous efforts to neutralize the Iranian threats as 497 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: petech sath if only. Unfortunately, that is not necessarily always 498 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: the case. In her testimony earlier this week in the 499 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: US Senate, the D and I director Tulsea Gabber, the 500 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence, refused to squarely address Senator John 501 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: Osso's question as to whether or not iron was an 502 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: imminent threat. She essentially punted and said that she would 503 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: defer these decisions to the commander in chief, that he 504 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: alone is equipped to actually make that determination. That doesn't 505 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: really cut it, though, does it, ma'am? You are the 506 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence. That is definitely your role to 507 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: assess the level of the threat and to make a determination, 508 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: a calculation in your best ability as to whether this 509 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: actually is an imminent threat. To be sure, you end 510 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: up deferring to whatever the commander in chief judgment is, 511 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: but you are totally qualified to make that determination. The 512 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: fact that she couldn't do so is an fortunately, quite damning, 513 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: but it's hardly surprising because as we've been explaining this week, 514 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: there seems to be something of a shadow war that's 515 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: being waged against President Trumpet's agenda that we highly speculate 516 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: is focused on that particular office, on the office of 517 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: the D and I. And we saw a very high profile, 518 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: you might call it resonation letter that came earlier this 519 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: week that we discussed it a little bit already. This 520 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: came from Joe Kent, the now former director of the 521 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: National counter Terrorism Center who resigned, and he had hyper 522 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: conspiratorial language that has been just utterly just cracked on 523 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: by everyone from Caroline leve At the White House Press Secretary, 524 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: to the former deputy FBI Director Dan Blane Gino, to 525 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: Mike Johnson and Tom Connor and many many others. There. 526 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: Joe Kent essentially saying that Israel talk the United States 527 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: into this war, repeating a lot of code pink talking points, 528 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: a lot of Nick Flente's style talking points as well. 529 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: Joe Kent, we can now say that with a high 530 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: degree of confidence, we actually think we know and it's 531 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: not a big shock, is it. We now can say 532 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: with a very high degree of confidence why he chose 533 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: this moment to do his very flowery resonation letter. It 534 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: actually had nothing to do with Joe Kent's highly compromised 535 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: moral conscience. It actually had nothing to do with his 536 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: beliefs about Ran, about Israel or anything there. Actually, if anything, 537 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: Joe Kent was saying totally different things on the question 538 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: of Ron as recently as a year and a half, 539 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: two years ago. He seems to have been totally radicalized 540 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: on this question, probably by his grey Zone writing new wife, 541 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: just over the past six months to a year or so. 542 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: But we now can say that the reason that Joe 543 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: Kent resigned is because the FBI is now investigating yess, 544 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: the FBI under CATCHPTEL is now investigating Joe Kent for 545 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: allegedly leaking in criminal fashion. This was apparently an open secret, 546 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: was that Joe Kent was leaking like a sieve over 547 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: the course of much of his tenure as the director 548 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: of the Nation Counter Territory Center, working under Toulsi Gabbert. 549 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: A lot of these leaks seemingly found their way into 550 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: the of less than fully save reactors. There has been 551 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: a lot of speculation over the past twenty four to 552 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: three six hours as do whether or not Joe Kent 553 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: actually was the source of none other than Candice Owens 554 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: receiving this WhatsApp chat from last October that I, among others, 555 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: was a part of there a highly debated and scrutinized 556 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: what staff chat over Charlie Kirk's stance on Israel. Joe 557 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: Kent apparently was of the opinion that Israel might have 558 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: been involved. He actually bought that conspiracy, apparently fought with 559 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Cash Mattel on this there. So I mean good freaking 560 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: riddance that this lunatic is no longer in a position 561 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: of this power. The real question is how he actually 562 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: got there in the first place. There are presumably all 563 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: sorts of stones that remained to be unturned there when 564 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: it comes to the White House, ppo of the Personnel 565 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: Office and things in nature as well. Joe Kent, though, 566 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: resigns to get ahead of this fbyond investigation there, and 567 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: hopefully he's lawyering up because due these are pretty serious 568 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: charges that he might be facing there. But his very 569 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: first move was to run to Tucker Carlson to tell 570 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: his version of story. And the most remarkable thing when 571 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Joe Kent ran to Tucker Carlson's show last evening was 572 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: I noticed that a lot of these clips were being 573 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: regurgitated by an account on x called at Press TV. 574 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: Press TV Folks is an Iranian regime state owned news 575 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: media organization owned by Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting is 576 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: a twenty four hour Tehran based regime propaganda network, and 577 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: they were just playing clip after clip of Joe Kent 578 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: on Tucker Carlson. So Kent resigns to get ahead of 579 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: the FBI investigation, runs to Tucker Tucker show has been 580 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: previously shown on a Rdian state TV, by the way, 581 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: and this Iranian regime propaganda is this regurgitating clip and 582 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: their captions in English are things like, so American soldiers 583 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: are dying for Israel, just saying exactly what you'd expect 584 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: the Iranians to say, I mean, guys, spot the operation 585 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: when you see it. Okay, spot the operation when you 586 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: see it. By the way, among the utterly insane things 587 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: that Joe Kent said was he tried to argue to 588 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: Tucker that all the comment of the former Iatola is 589 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: not was not and had no intention of pursuing nuclear 590 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: weapons because of a fatwah that he apparently issued when 591 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: it comes to nuclear weapons. Yes, he actually really said this, 592 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: go ahead and watch. 593 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: This was Iran on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon. 594 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 7: No, they weren't, you know, three weeks ago and this started, 595 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 7: and they weren't in June either. I mean, the Iranians 596 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 7: have had a religious ruling of fatua against actually developing 597 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 7: a nuclear weapons since two thousand and four. That's been 598 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 7: in place since two thousand and four. That's available in 599 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 7: the public sphere. But then also we had no intelligence 600 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 7: to indicate that that foughtua was being disobeyed or it 601 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 7: was on the cusp of being lifted. The Iranian strategy, 602 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 7: it's actually pretty pragmatic. The Iranians are obviously aware of 603 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 7: what's taking place in their region, and their strategy was 604 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 7: to not completely abandon nuclear program because they saw what 605 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 7: happened to market Afie and Libya when he said, hey, 606 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 7: I've got no more nukes. I'll do what you say, 607 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 7: I'll give up. 608 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: My nukes, and we gave them a piece price. 609 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 7: We regime changed him and he was you know, executed 610 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 7: by his own people in the most horrific. 611 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: So sodomized by a bay in that great Okay, So 612 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: that's what that's the lesson I think that the entire 613 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 3: region took from that when Hillary Clinton. 614 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 7: Unfortunately, that's that's what the neocon neoliberal warmongers, that's the 615 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 7: lesson that they showed everyone in the region. 616 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So he's saying that Commeny told us that he 617 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: can't have a nuclear weapon, therefore we believe that he 618 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: can't have a nuclear weapon. And then this is getting 619 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: regurgitated by the literal Irani regime propaganda channel press TV. 620 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: I mean, like, what is there even to say about that. 621 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: First of all, this alleged fat what I think literally 622 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: does not exist. It is actually just a total lie. 623 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: It was spread as regime ATJIPROP and it was picked 624 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: up by people like Max Blumenthal, a gray zone, people 625 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: apparently like Joe Kent. It's just not true. By the way, 626 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: this same TV network in Iran that was just dissemining 627 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: and regrititating all this Tucker Joe Ken content called Press TV. 628 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: It's actually one of these subjects of a brand new 629 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: study out today from a great group based out of 630 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey called NCRI, the Network Contagent Research Institute which 631 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: has this whole new study just out today. You can 632 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: check it out at Network Coontagent dot us about how 633 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: Iranian state media, led by Press TV, is involved in 634 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: a sprawling influence operation on US soil. Now, the NCRI 635 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: study is mostly focused on left wing organizations such as 636 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: the Workers World Party WWP, but it seems to US 637 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: base one we can tell that they have some shall 638 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: we say, friendly mouthpieces when it comes to people like 639 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: Joe Kent and Tug Carlston as well. Fortunately, the American 640 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: people are just simply not buying any of this whatsoever. 641 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: They're they firmly stand with President Trump and not with 642 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: people like Kent and Carlston. We have some new polling 643 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: on that that we will discuss, among things after a 644 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: very short co much break, folks, we'll be right back 645 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: with some closing thoughts and all this. Welcome back. So 646 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: this is clearly an information operation, as we've been explaining 647 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: on the show all week, and you should have your 648 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: eyes and ears tuned up for the good news, and 649 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: it's very good news, is that Republican voters simply are 650 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: not buying this whatsoeb It is actually a brand new 651 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: pull just out today on Thursday, March nineteenth from JLL Partners. 652 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: The Near Posts cover this in article this morning. A 653 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: new JL Partners survey showed that eighty three percent of 654 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: likely Republican voters strongly or somewhat support Operation Epic Theory. 655 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: Only nine percent say they strongly or somewhat oppose it. 656 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: Eighty four percent of respondents say that they agree with 657 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's foreign policy. Only six percent say they agree 658 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,239 Speaker 1: with Tucker Carlson and Makan Kelly on this stuff as 659 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: opposed to Donald Trump himself. So the numbers on this 660 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: don't lie. There is just overwhelming over on the agreements 661 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump has a correct at least within his 662 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: own base, within the MAGA Republican base. Our friend Harry 663 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: Enton over at scene and has some other numbers in this. 664 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: It's pretty PERSUASIVEFF, go ahead and watch this. 665 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, sometimes you look at the polling data, 666 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 8: and there are numbers that just jump off the screen 667 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 8: at you, and this is one of those because just 668 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 8: take a look here, MAGA GOP of view of Trump 669 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 8: approve one hundred percent, one hundred percent. If you are 670 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 8: a member of MAGA and the GOP you approve of 671 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 8: Donald John Trump zero percent say that they disapprove. You 672 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 8: don't have to be a mathematical genius to know you 673 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 8: can't go higher than one hundred percent. He is the 674 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 8: nineteen hundred and seventy two Miami Dolphins. Now, there are 675 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 8: some Republicans who disapprove of Donald John Trump, but they 676 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 8: are not members of to Make America Great Again movement. 677 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 8: The bottom line is this, if you are a member 678 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 8: of MAGA, you approve of Donald Trump. 679 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: Harry with the historical in nineteen seventy two Mammy Dolphins 680 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: reference for the for those of you who are not 681 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: as big football fans as Harry or myself, the Mammi 682 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: Dolphins from ninety seventy who are the only team in 683 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: NFL history to ever go undefeated. So Donald Trump literally undefeated, 684 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: much like the nineteen seventy teen Miami Dolphins in this 685 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: particular poll, So Donald Trump soaring on popularity right now, 686 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: and a lot of this. Frankly, that's why a lot 687 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: of folks say, you know, what's the point, and well, 688 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: that's that's connotation perhaps for another day. But these people 689 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: have an agenda. It's just not a good one. And 690 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: more to the point, it is an agenda that is 691 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: actually really not being supported by anyone close to calling 692 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: him herself a Maga Republican. Now, in other sports related news, 693 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: outside of the of the confines of the nineteen seventeen 694 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, we're big, we're big sports fans here on 695 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: the show. It's not a sports talk show. You don't 696 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: necessarily you don't necessarily watch this program to get your 697 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: sports news. Maybe maybe you go to OutKick or Barstool 698 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: Sports or or elsewhere. Today is a big day on 699 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: the sporting calendar. It is the first full day of 700 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: the na men's basketball tournaments, otherwise known as March Madness. 701 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: I even following these tournament for as long as I 702 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: can remember, literally, I think since I was in third 703 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: or fourth grade. I have all sorts of fond memories 704 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: from being in middle school in high school and trying 705 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: to sneak away on the opening Thursday and Friday of 706 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: the tournaments to try to stream some games from At 707 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: that time was a much slower internet connection in the 708 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: high school library. I literally think back to the online streaming. 709 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: There was a very funny button on the old streaming 710 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: and probably I'm not sure if it still a today, 711 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: where it called it boss mode, and if you click 712 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: boss mode, the stream immediately turns into what looks like 713 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: a Microsoft Excel spreadsheets. So it's basically, if you're working 714 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: in the office and you're trying to watch the UNC 715 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: or Kentucky game at two PM and your boss comes by, 716 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, click boss mode, and therefore the game 717 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: just peers and look and you look like they're crunching numbers. 718 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of gimmicky, but it's just a funny thing there. 719 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: I love this tournament. It is maybe my single favorite 720 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: sporting event on the American sporting calendar on a year 721 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: in euro basis the only thing really that comes to 722 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: mind the really, I guess only two things that come 723 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: to mind as being in the same caliber of that. 724 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: That would be the Masters. The golf tournament, which is 725 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: right around the same time after the Masters, is always 726 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: around the same time as the Final four it's usually 727 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: the weekend right after the Final Four, actually, and then 728 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: there's the US Open in tennis, which is deeply, deeply 729 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: sentimental for me and magical event in and of itself. 730 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: But March Madness, what is there to say? It is 731 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: the quintessential story of the wreckords, the statistics, it all 732 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: goes out the window. They call it March madness because 733 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: every team has a shot. It is kind of the 734 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: ultimate example of egalitarianism in American sports. I'm last saying 735 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: that there aren't favorites. Of course they're favorites. In fact, 736 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: I actually vividly remember the very first Final Four was 737 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight where the one seed from all 738 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: four regions actually made it to the Final four. That 739 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: was the year two thousand and eight where the title 740 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: game was Kansas versus Memphis. It was Bill Self's case, 741 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: Jayhawks versus John Klipari's Memphis Tigers. Memphis was actually leading 742 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: most of that game. Long story short, Kansas ends up 743 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: winning on a heroic Mario Chalmers shot. So that was 744 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: actually the first year the Final Four was actually all 745 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: for one seats. And as a Duke fan, I know 746 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: you're playing gonna boo mee boo or whatever. I don't 747 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: really care. As a Duke fan, I think a lot 748 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: about one seeds this year and last year, because our 749 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: team has been probably the single most frequent one seed 750 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: in the tournament in the era of the modern sixty 751 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: four team tournament, wh's been going on for about four 752 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: decades since around nineteen eighty four, eighty five, eighty six. 753 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: That was the advent of the sixty four team modern 754 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: tournament there, and that is my team. I am a 755 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: die hard, die hard Duke basketball fan. I started following 756 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: to basketball when I was in third grade. Probably the 757 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: long story short of it is that my parents took 758 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: me to a local carnival and there was like a 759 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: little basketball game at the carnival and I made the shots, 760 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: and my prize was was I won a little miniature basketball. 761 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: And my favorite color is blue, so I picked the 762 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: blue basketball, which happened to be a Duke basketball. I 763 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: know you what Duke was, I asked my father. I said, 764 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: what is Duke? He said, Duke is a good basketball team. 765 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: I was like cool. And then the next year, that's 766 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: when I was in third grade. The next year I 767 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: was in fourth grade, This would be nineteen ninety nine 768 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: two thousand, nineteen ninety nine season. At the time, Duke 769 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 1: was number one team in the country and their best 770 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: player was man by the name of Elton Brands. We 771 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: ended up having a pretty decent pro career. Elton brand 772 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: was from about twenty minutes north of where I was from. 773 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: He was called the local hero in Westchester County and 774 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: I started following Duke that year. Duke lost in heartbreaking 775 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: fashion to Yukon in the title game that year. Unfortunately, 776 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: there'd be the exact same case in the two thousand 777 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: and four Final four in San Antonio. Duke and Yukon 778 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: actually the top two seeds in the East Region again, 779 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: So we're looking at potential Elite eight matchup between Duke 780 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: and Yukon in Washington, d C. In about two weeks. 781 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: There we will see if that transpires. According to the 782 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: numbers here, Duke is the odds on favorite. They are 783 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: picked to win it by the highest percentage of mackets 784 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: this year on ESPN. Looks like Arizona, which is the 785 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: overall in the second overall one seat. Arizona is the 786 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: second highest likelihood. In Michigan would be number three, and 787 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: then Florida and Houston kind of rounding out the path there. 788 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: There's so much to say, but it's just a beautiful, 789 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: beautiful tournament. There is really a minimization of corporate sponsorships. 790 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: There's really no major sponsorships on the jerseys on the floors. 791 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: It's all for the love of the game. That's the 792 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: beauty of college sports. And one of the reasons that 793 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: I've been so personally distraught in recent years when it 794 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: comes to nil, when it comes to all this money 795 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: that's sloshing around now when it comes to insteada athletics. 796 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: There was this big meeting at the White House a 797 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Ron DeSantis was there, Tiger Woods 798 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: was there talking about college sports. I saw Nick Saban, 799 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: the former Alabama football coach, was there as well. And 800 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: all of this threatens at some level to diminish the 801 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: beauty of this competition. I mean, I think back two 802 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: times where I've seen college players just burst down to 803 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: tears because they have lost or they won. Just the 804 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: level of raw emotion and passion. You don't really see 805 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: that all too frequently when it comes to professional athletics. 806 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 1: You know, if Lebron James or Steph Curry is winning 807 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: the NBA Championship. You're not going to see Lebron James 808 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: breakdown and crying. It's really a fundamentally a younger person's thing. 809 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: So I'm actually also a huge Formula One racing fan. 810 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: I watch every single race. And this past weekend was 811 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: the Chinese Grand Prix over in Shanghai, and for the 812 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: first time, Kimmy Antonelli, who is a nineteen year old, 813 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: he's now a sophomore, not a rookie, he won a 814 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: Grand Prio for the first time and he started crying. 815 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: It was a really beautiful thing. But this level of 816 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: passion emotion is many ways a younger person's thing. And 817 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: there's so many traditions of this tournament. After the final game, 818 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: after the team wins it all, they play a very 819 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: special song every year, one Shining Moment's been around for decades, 820 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: and they customize the video to the whole tournament there. 821 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: This year, the final four is actually back in Indianapolis. 822 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: I say back because I have personally been to the 823 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: Final Four in Indianapolis twice. I was there in twenty 824 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: ten and I was there in twenty fifteen. What happened 825 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: in twenty ten and twenty fifteen Duke won the national 826 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: championship both years. In twenty ten, I was a junior 827 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: in college. We drove from North Carolina to Indianapolis for 828 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: the final four in the Champion of game. In twenty fifteen, 829 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: I was in law school in Chicago. Drove from Chicago's 830 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: short drive down Indianapolis for the games as well. If 831 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: Duke does make it that far again, I will have 832 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: a very hard time saying no to trying to fly 833 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: back to Indy. We shall see if that happens. Duke 834 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: has a very difficult draw, In fact, they probably have 835 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: the toughest draw of any of the one seats there. 836 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: But regardless of who you're rooting for, whether you like me, 837 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: are rooting for Big Bad Evil Duke Go Devils, whether 838 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: you're like me or whether you have another team in 839 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: mind there, enjoy this tournament and try to just smile. 840 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: Think not about necessarily all the things we talked about 841 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: on today's show and all our shows. Just smile. In 842 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,959 Speaker 1: sports sometimes there was just pure unmitigated joy, and that really, 843 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: above all, folks, is what it's all about. Folks, have 844 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: a great rest of evening and enjoy the games. We'll 845 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: be right back much more tomorrow,