1
00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,440
Speaker 1: He's editor in chief of Breitbart News and a New

2
00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,000
Speaker 1: York Times best selling author, and on this podcast it

3
00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,240
Speaker 1: brings deep research, prescient analysis at world class guests. He's

4
00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,320
Speaker 1: Alex Marlowe and this is the Alex marlow Show.

5
00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,239
Speaker 2: All right, Steve Hilton is with me.

6
00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,520
Speaker 3: Now, you guys know him from Fox News, but he's

7
00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,800
Speaker 3: also a candidate for governor in California and he's doing

8
00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,000
Speaker 3: very well in the polls, though it's going to be

9
00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,240
Speaker 3: a long slog in a deep blue state like California.

10
00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,000
Speaker 2: We'll get into all that.

11
00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,199
Speaker 3: But Steve, if there are people in the audience who

12
00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,839
Speaker 3: are unfamiliar with your background, can you share some of

13
00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,000
Speaker 3: the trajectory and how you came from overseas to the

14
00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,800
Speaker 3: United States. You're a Fox star and then now you're

15
00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,240
Speaker 3: running for governor of California.

16
00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,440
Speaker 2: It's truly unique.

17
00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,479
Speaker 4: I've never seen this career arc.

18
00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,880
Speaker 2: Break it down for that, right, Yeah, Well, it's great

19
00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,760
Speaker 2: to see you, Alex. It's a great pleasure to be

20
00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,400
Speaker 2: with you today.

21
00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,400
Speaker 5: As you can tell and everyone watching and listening can tell,

22
00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,160
Speaker 5: originally from the UK, but actually the journey, the arch

23
00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,120
Speaker 5: as it goes back one step further, which is very

24
00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,520
Speaker 5: important in how I see the world and has shaped

25
00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,080
Speaker 5: me very strongly, which is, my parents are Hungarian. Both

26
00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,039
Speaker 5: of my parents are Hungarian, and they fled communism, and

27
00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,479
Speaker 5: I grew up in England in a free country, but

28
00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,840
Speaker 5: the rest of my family all back behind the Iron Curtain.

29
00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,640
Speaker 5: We used to go back and visit when I was

30
00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,880
Speaker 5: a kid, and that was a communist regime and that

31
00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,280
Speaker 5: made a very very strong impression on me. And I

32
00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:33,280
Speaker 5: guess that you know, driving you know, fierce love of

33
00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:39,959
Speaker 5: freedom and a hatred of big, bossy bureaucratic government really stems,

34
00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,400
Speaker 5: I guess from.

35
00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,560
Speaker 2: That in part.

36
00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,920
Speaker 5: But also I grew up in England, which was recovering

37
00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,800
Speaker 5: from you know, a decade of socialism. Margaret Thatcher had

38
00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,800
Speaker 5: been elected Prime minister, and my parents were working class.

39
00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,760
Speaker 5: My stepfather, also Hungarian, worked construction and I spent my

40
00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,400
Speaker 5: time in you know, vacations and trying to earn a

41
00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,040
Speaker 5: bit of money.

42
00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:00,840
Speaker 2: On construction site.

43
00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,680
Speaker 5: So I just really identified, I suppose, with that upward

44
00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,720
Speaker 5: trajectory of kind of working class immigrant aspiration, and Missus

45
00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,960
Speaker 5: Thatcher in England really spoke to that very strongly actually,

46
00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,160
Speaker 5: and so I had that very strong identification back then.

47
00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,120
Speaker 2: Worked hard, got to Oxford University.

48
00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,639
Speaker 5: Ended up actually working at the Conservative Party for a

49
00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,360
Speaker 5: little bit when I was much younger, when Missus Thatcher

50
00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,880
Speaker 5: was still Prime Minister. That was my first real foray

51
00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,240
Speaker 5: into politics. But then most of my career actually has

52
00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:34,200
Speaker 5: been in business. I've started companies both in England and

53
00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,480
Speaker 5: here in California. I've run restaurants. I've had a whole

54
00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,880
Speaker 5: range of business experience. I think it's going to be

55
00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,280
Speaker 5: incredibly useful and important in the job I'm now seeking

56
00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,440
Speaker 5: his government of California, that business mindset. But I did

57
00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,120
Speaker 5: go back into politics for a while when David Cameron,

58
00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,520
Speaker 5: who I'd worked with many years before, ran.

59
00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,800
Speaker 2: For the leadership of the British Conservative Party.

60
00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,799
Speaker 5: I ran his campaign, he became leader, helped him get

61
00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,600
Speaker 5: elected as Prime Minister, and I served for two years

62
00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,880
Speaker 5: in ten Downing Street as senior advisor to the Prime Minister.

63
00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,120
Speaker 5: I had at office right next to the Cabinet room

64
00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,160
Speaker 5: there in number ten and behind that famous door, and

65
00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,480
Speaker 5: that really gave me that experience of you know, how

66
00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,320
Speaker 5: hard it is to make change happen in government, and

67
00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,000
Speaker 5: how entrenched the interests on the bureaucracy, and how difficult

68
00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,440
Speaker 5: it is, and I really learned a lot from that.

69
00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,600
Speaker 5: Twenty twelve, moved here to California with my wife and

70
00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,680
Speaker 5: my two sons. My wife at the time was had

71
00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,119
Speaker 5: a job that brought her back and forth to California.

72
00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,840
Speaker 5: When our second son was born, it was kind of

73
00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,920
Speaker 5: a lot of crazy travel. So we thought for our

74
00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,880
Speaker 5: family sanity, it would be good to move here, not

75
00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,880
Speaker 5: necessarily intending to stay forever. But you know, I was

76
00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,920
Speaker 5: in love with California even before we moved here. It

77
00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,640
Speaker 5: represented to me so much, well everything that's great about America,

78
00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,240
Speaker 5: and so made a new life here, taught at Stanford University,

79
00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,600
Speaker 5: started a tech company, a new career in TV, which

80
00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,640
Speaker 5: is totally unexpected.

81
00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,360
Speaker 2: But then the more that the years went on I.

82
00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,360
Speaker 5: Was hosting a Sean Fox News, the more I really

83
00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,880
Speaker 5: wanted to get back into doing things, not just talking

84
00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,440
Speaker 5: about things in terms of that's really what I've been done.

85
00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,160
Speaker 2: Doing all my career in business and in government.

86
00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,600
Speaker 5: And slowly came to the realization that I love California

87
00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,240
Speaker 5: so much I can't stand to see what the Democrats

88
00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,520
Speaker 5: are doing to it. And a few years ago started

89
00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,640
Speaker 5: a policy organization, Golden Together, started traveling the state meeting people,

90
00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,760
Speaker 5: learning about the issues, developing policy solutions, and that led

91
00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,040
Speaker 5: to where we are today where in many of the

92
00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,839
Speaker 5: polls I'm the leading candidate for governor.

93
00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:29,440
Speaker 2: How about that?

94
00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,599
Speaker 3: It really is remarkable. Ark, there's so many places I

95
00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,440
Speaker 3: want to take it. I guess I'll ask one question

96
00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,080
Speaker 3: about Fox. There's not a lot of people from the

97
00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,599
Speaker 3: UK with shows on American network, particularly Fox is so

98
00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,120
Speaker 3: highly competitive. Were that's sort of the dream job for

99
00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,120
Speaker 3: so many people in this fields to get a show.

100
00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,000
Speaker 4: How did that come about?

101
00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,000
Speaker 2: So it's interesting. I was. It was twenty sixteen.

102
00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,719
Speaker 5: We've been here for four years in California, and I went.

103
00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,840
Speaker 2: Back to the UK. It was for two reasons. Really.

104
00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,280
Speaker 5: I'd written a book in twenty fifteen called More Human,

105
00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,400
Speaker 5: Designing a world where people come First, and the theme

106
00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,200
Speaker 5: of the book was putting power in people's hands, decentralizing power.

107
00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,400
Speaker 5: I applied that argument to all areas of life and policy,

108
00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,800
Speaker 5: and then the paperback edition came out in the UK

109
00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,680
Speaker 5: went back to promote that. That was the time of

110
00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,880
Speaker 5: the Brexit referendum twenty sixteen, and of course the EU

111
00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,520
Speaker 5: represented everything that I was arguing against in that book

112
00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,599
Speaker 5: about decentralizing power, and in fact I encountered the unbelievable

113
00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,240
Speaker 5: weight of the EU bureaucracy and fought against it when

114
00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,240
Speaker 5: I was in tan Downer Street. So I came out

115
00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,280
Speaker 5: in favor of Brexit, which was a big deal because

116
00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,120
Speaker 5: my until the close friend and former boss, the Prime

117
00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,840
Speaker 5: Minister David Cameron, was against Brexit, so we were.

118
00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,200
Speaker 2: On opposite sides of that.

119
00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,320
Speaker 5: It was a big deal in the UK got a

120
00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,680
Speaker 5: lot of media attention, including the attention of someone called

121
00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,359
Speaker 5: Rupert Murdoch who saw me about Brexit. He asked me

122
00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,159
Speaker 5: and for a meeting. We started chatting, we got along.

123
00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,720
Speaker 5: Of course, it was also the time here where you

124
00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,159
Speaker 5: saw the rise of Donald Trump and in fact just

125
00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,120
Speaker 5: generally the rise of that populist movement. You could also

126
00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,360
Speaker 5: see Bernie Sanders on the left tapping into some of

127
00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,320
Speaker 5: those populist concerns, obviously in a very different way with

128
00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,320
Speaker 5: different solutions. And we got talking and Rupert, after a

129
00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,239
Speaker 5: few months offered me this incredible opportunity and it really

130
00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,680
Speaker 5: was very much, I mean, the original intent of the

131
00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,520
Speaker 5: show it's called The Next Revolution, was very much focused

132
00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:39,840
Speaker 5: on that populist development both in the UK, with Brexit,

133
00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,400
Speaker 5: and of course much more significantly here in America. And

134
00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,599
Speaker 5: the show started right at the beginning of the Trump

135
00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,599
Speaker 5: the first Trump administration.

136
00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,080
Speaker 3: But he's had all sorts of networks in the UK

137
00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,440
Speaker 3: as well, but he thought that it was important for

138
00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,359
Speaker 3: your voice to be reaching an American audience.

139
00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,120
Speaker 2: Well, actually, I think it really was.

140
00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,960
Speaker 5: The I remember back in the days around that summer

141
00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,520
Speaker 5: of twenty to sixteen being invited. For example, I sat

142
00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,279
Speaker 5: on a number of panels and various events and Republican

143
00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,840
Speaker 5: events and media events with JD. Vance because at the

144
00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,559
Speaker 5: same time he had published Till Billy Elergy say Exact,

145
00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,360
Speaker 5: and both of us were I guess you could say,

146
00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,280
Speaker 5: explaining what was going on. People were looking at Donald Trump,

147
00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,280
Speaker 5: and but I said, what's this about this new populism?

148
00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,560
Speaker 5: And we really got it, I think, and I guess

149
00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,440
Speaker 5: it does go back to what I was talking about

150
00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,640
Speaker 5: in terms of my working class upbringing in the UK.

151
00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,880
Speaker 5: I then completely understood what was going on and felt

152
00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,480
Speaker 5: that it was a completely natural response to the failures

153
00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,240
Speaker 5: of the establishment in both parties, especially the economic failures,

154
00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,440
Speaker 5: the failure to lift up working people.

155
00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,840
Speaker 2: There's a staggering.

156
00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,760
Speaker 5: Chart that I remember that really took me aback when

157
00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,880
Speaker 5: I was looking at the data to up to do

158
00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,320
Speaker 5: the US edition of that book, and I updated it

159
00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,000
Speaker 5: with US information, and there's this incredibly powerful chart looking

160
00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,880
Speaker 5: at the earnings of most workers I think the technical

161
00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,360
Speaker 5: term is non managerial, non supervisory workers. It's roughly the

162
00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,640
Speaker 5: eighty percent most workers in America, and it plotted their

163
00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,440
Speaker 5: earnings after inflation going back decades. On the same chart

164
00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,680
Speaker 5: the earnings of corporate America and the top twenty percent

165
00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,520
Speaker 5: of the labor force, and it's just incredibly striking. Basically,

166
00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,240
Speaker 5: the earnings of most workers were completely flat since the

167
00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,120
Speaker 5: mid since I think nineteen seventy four, just flat, and

168
00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,640
Speaker 5: the top twenty percent hockey stick growth, corporate earnings, hockey

169
00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,840
Speaker 5: stick growth. And to me, that captured the whole force

170
00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,120
Speaker 5: for the rise of Donald Trump and Brexit and all

171
00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,400
Speaker 5: of this. And I really understood that. It seemed to

172
00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,120
Speaker 5: me others didn't perhaps understand that so immediately, and really

173
00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,480
Speaker 5: the role of the show was to really provide an

174
00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,119
Speaker 5: opportunity to talk about those issues from that populist perspective.

175
00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,719
Speaker 3: Really interesting, So you settle out in calf We're in California,

176
00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,080
Speaker 3: and why did you pick it there.

177
00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,560
Speaker 2: Well, that, as I said, it was really my wife's Josh.

178
00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,600
Speaker 5: She was then she had a senior job at Google

179
00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,400
Speaker 5: and communicating on the communications.

180
00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,520
Speaker 2: Side, and she was traveling a lot.

181
00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,439
Speaker 3: She's still in there because I'm getting really throttled here

182
00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,839
Speaker 3: on YouTube and I need to get a contact over

183
00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,120
Speaker 3: there because they're starting to raise all my views for

184
00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,839
Speaker 3: some reason. They want to explain to me they take

185
00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,960
Speaker 3: away your views.

186
00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,280
Speaker 2: No, she's not an In fact she's not.

187
00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,840
Speaker 5: And in fact I had the same thing happened to

188
00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,080
Speaker 5: me on YouTube when I was speaking out against the

189
00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,240
Speaker 5: vaccine mandates in the pandemic and the lockdown, the same thing. No,

190
00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,480
Speaker 5: she's she's had a fantastic career, but she's no longer

191
00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,440
Speaker 5: at Google. She's she's worked at a number of the

192
00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,439
Speaker 5: big tech companies in that communications role and now is

193
00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,920
Speaker 5: with an AI startup. So she's you know, doing as

194
00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,679
Speaker 5: I always say, she has the real career in our family.

195
00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,240
Speaker 3: So, so where are you based now? In California?

196
00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,240
Speaker 5: We live in the Bay Area, and so you're in there.

197
00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,520
Speaker 4: Well, abb a Berkeley grad, so I know the area

198
00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:04,080
Speaker 4: pretty well.

199
00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,439
Speaker 5: Okay, So we're just across the Bay from there. We're

200
00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,120
Speaker 5: in Athaton close to Palo Alta to.

201
00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,520
Speaker 3: Place nice, nice and nice place to live. So what's

202
00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,760
Speaker 3: it like there for you living there? Do you like

203
00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,160
Speaker 3: living in California?

204
00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:16,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

205
00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:16,439
Speaker 2: I love.

206
00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I still feel in love with California. I

207
00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,360
Speaker 5: love every day. I just think I'm so incredibly fortunate,

208
00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,520
Speaker 5: and especially now traveling the state where in my base

209
00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,079
Speaker 5: I'm basically based in our truck, our campaign truck and

210
00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,880
Speaker 5: in and out of airports, going around the very big

211
00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,000
Speaker 5: state and I and I get around it, and we

212
00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,560
Speaker 5: right now, for example, we're holding town halls right across

213
00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,000
Speaker 5: the state. Yesterday we were up in the Sierra Nevada

214
00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,640
Speaker 5: foothills of the weekend. We're in the Bay Area Pasadena

215
00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,160
Speaker 5: before that, so we're all over the state. It's so incredible.

216
00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,200
Speaker 5: It's such a beautiful place. It's got this energy that

217
00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,400
Speaker 5: I love. It's not just the beauty, the physical beauty

218
00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,400
Speaker 5: and the and the range of incredible places you can

219
00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,360
Speaker 5: see from the mountain, the magnificent mountains, and the beaches

220
00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,240
Speaker 5: and the coastline, all those that's all true, and the

221
00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,480
Speaker 5: range of that is in you don't get anywhere else

222
00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:10,560
Speaker 5: in the world. The attitude of California and it's to

223
00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,400
Speaker 5: me is something very special. Obviously, the fierce desire for freedom,

224
00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,679
Speaker 5: but that kind of rebel spirit. I think that's what

225
00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,320
Speaker 5: California is all about at its best, Like we just

226
00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,000
Speaker 5: do you know, That's why you've had so much innovation

227
00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,839
Speaker 5: here and a lot of.

228
00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,160
Speaker 2: The culture, the counterculture actually.

229
00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,400
Speaker 5: Like fighting, just saying I'm going to do this thing

230
00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,959
Speaker 5: and I'm going to start something, and everyone thinks is crazy.

231
00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,200
Speaker 5: That attitude, the rebel spirit, that's what's being crushed, of

232
00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,880
Speaker 5: course by this unbelievable bloated, nanny state, bossy, bureaucratic government

233
00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,160
Speaker 5: that is so anti California. I mean, it's obviously producing

234
00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,760
Speaker 5: terrible results in California. If you look at the actual

235
00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,240
Speaker 5: outcomes on every measure, we are now the worst performed

236
00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,240
Speaker 5: on every measure that matters, literally the worst performing state

237
00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,079
Speaker 5: in America's stunning. What a failure it is this Democrat

238
00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,800
Speaker 5: one party, you know, highest poverty rate, highest unemployment rate,

239
00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,720
Speaker 5: fiftieth out of fifty for affordability according to wallet Hub,

240
00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,680
Speaker 5: fiftieth out of fifty for opportunity. US News World and

241
00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,200
Speaker 5: World Report rankings, Chief Executive Magazine, worst business climate in America,

242
00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:19,119
Speaker 5: highest gas prices of any state, electric, insurance, water.

243
00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,640
Speaker 2: Housing, everything's a disaster.

244
00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,719
Speaker 5: But on top of that, it's they're just crushing the

245
00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,160
Speaker 5: spirit of California with all these endless, you know, government

246
00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,840
Speaker 5: rules and regulations and making everything so impossible impossible to

247
00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,160
Speaker 5: do anything, build anything, run your business, raise your family

248
00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,400
Speaker 5: the way you want. It's absolutely antithetical to the soul

249
00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,959
Speaker 5: and spirit of California, and that's really what we're fighting against.

250
00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is so I live here and I was

251
00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,160
Speaker 3: a excuse me, I was California native. Now I'm back,

252
00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,800
Speaker 3: and you know, every day you think about leaving if

253
00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,640
Speaker 3: you've got my sort of politics. But I feel like

254
00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,839
Speaker 3: I just turned forty years old over the weekend, and

255
00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,120
Speaker 3: it's one of these things where I feel like, if

256
00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,480
Speaker 3: I give up on California, I've almost given up on

257
00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,440
Speaker 3: myself because I love, I've always loved being a California.

258
00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:08,920
Speaker 4: I am a.

259
00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,360
Speaker 3: Californian and you can't take that away from me just

260
00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,719
Speaker 3: because I don't like the governor currently and I don't

261
00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,520
Speaker 3: like the state legislature and some people in Hollywood are stupid.

262
00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,079
Speaker 4: So I want you to speak to.

263
00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,920
Speaker 3: This because I feel like we're kindred spirits in this

264
00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,559
Speaker 3: regard why is California worth fighting for to the extent

265
00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,079
Speaker 3: that you're giving up a huge part of your life

266
00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,280
Speaker 3: and time to be able to do this.

267
00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,440
Speaker 4: It's obviously a high profile.

268
00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,599
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's kind of fun, but it's going to

269
00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,760
Speaker 3: be very grueling and hard, and it's tough. Odds, why

270
00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,679
Speaker 3: are you putting yourself out there to this level on

271
00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,400
Speaker 3: behalf of this state that frankly doesn't deserve people like you?

272
00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,040
Speaker 2: Well, it is tough, and it's actually really tough.

273
00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,640
Speaker 5: I know it's a cliche people say this, but I've

274
00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,640
Speaker 5: seen it the first time I've run for office. I'm

275
00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,600
Speaker 5: an outsider that obviously, I've worked in and around politics

276
00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,360
Speaker 5: and government a little bit, but I've never done it before.

277
00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,040
Speaker 5: And it is tough. It's really tough on your family, truly. Yeah,

278
00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,640
Speaker 5: you're away a lot, especially in a place as big

279
00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,080
Speaker 5: as this, and so that is a real that is

280
00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,680
Speaker 5: a real and and I do enjoy it and it's

281
00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:07,679
Speaker 5: an honor to do it.

282
00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,960
Speaker 2: I think the driving force is just this. I just

283
00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,680
Speaker 2: feel it's very it's it's.

284
00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,280
Speaker 5: It's almost a spiritual and emotional drive, really, which is

285
00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,880
Speaker 5: how dare they do this? And this place is so

286
00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,440
Speaker 5: special and It's given me such an amazing opportunity. You know,

287
00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,280
Speaker 5: just think about what I've been able to do here

288
00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,800
Speaker 5: and you know, the California dream, which are you know, other.

289
00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,920
Speaker 2: States don't speak of that, right, but it's a real

290
00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:31,400
Speaker 2: thing here.

291
00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,120
Speaker 5: No offense to the other states, but it's it's special

292
00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,960
Speaker 5: and you know, teaching at Stamford, starting a business TV,

293
00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,000
Speaker 5: it is incredible opportunity. And I do feel a certain sense.

294
00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,160
Speaker 2: Of obligation to to you know, if it's.

295
00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,400
Speaker 5: That sense of, well, if you can do something about it,

296
00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,480
Speaker 5: if you really and I do think I've got the

297
00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,600
Speaker 5: combination of the business experience, the government reform experience, policy

298
00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,320
Speaker 5: expertise across a broad range of issues, and understand of

299
00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,760
Speaker 5: how you can actually make change happen thanks to my

300
00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,520
Speaker 5: media platform. The you know, opportunity that's just being known

301
00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,040
Speaker 5: is very important in a state like this, And so

302
00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,960
Speaker 5: putting all that together, I just felt a sense of

303
00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,800
Speaker 5: I don't want to be too pompous about it and

304
00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,480
Speaker 5: use words like duty, but there is an element of

305
00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,720
Speaker 5: that and obligation. I feel a sense of obligation, I

306
00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,200
Speaker 5: really do, but also a real emotional love for this

307
00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,600
Speaker 5: state and and what it should should be and could.

308
00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,920
Speaker 3: Be yeah, and then the potential is still limitless. So

309
00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,960
Speaker 3: one thing about the state, there's nothing's going right here.

310
00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,040
Speaker 3: And I tracked this on a daily basis on one

311
00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,280
Speaker 3: of my platforms. I'll note how all I've been following

312
00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,000
Speaker 3: the Avenue since career, since I was a college student,

313
00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,880
Speaker 3: and he became known to me, and he's been around

314
00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,000
Speaker 3: for you know, multiple decades in the state. And since

315
00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,320
Speaker 3: he got power, we've seen crime get worse. We've seen

316
00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:57,160
Speaker 3: illegal immigration destroy our school system, healthcare has gotten less affordable,

317
00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,320
Speaker 3: traffic has not gotten better. There's more homelessness, there is

318
00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,640
Speaker 3: more crime. We had a budget serve plus, now we

319
00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,840
Speaker 3: have a deficit. He's got nothing right, and yet he's

320
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,080
Speaker 3: ascended the polls during that time for national office, which

321
00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,880
Speaker 3: speaks to just a huge disconnect between what people are

322
00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,000
Speaker 3: looking for in a government and a governeur and what

323
00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,120
Speaker 3: I've been witnessing on a personal level. All of that

324
00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,000
Speaker 3: is very bleak to me. But I want to get

325
00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,880
Speaker 3: a sense of what your top priorities are should you

326
00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,240
Speaker 3: become the CEO of the state. All Right, I'm adding

327
00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,280
Speaker 3: a new New Year's resolution in the list I've had. My

328
00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,320
Speaker 3: new resolution show I've added a new one and that's

329
00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,000
Speaker 3: using balance of Nature.

330
00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,080
Speaker 4: This is good for you and it is nummy. It's

331
00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:39,960
Speaker 4: a Whole.

332
00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:44,120
Speaker 3: Health System Supplements perfect resolution for you. These have some

333
00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:50,280
Speaker 3: of the best ingredients imaginable from silium, husk, flax seed, cinnamon, turmeric, turmer,

334
00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,600
Speaker 3: you got to get that r in there, turmeric, mango, pineapple,

335
00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,600
Speaker 3: wild blueberry, shataki, mushroom, spinach, koe, kaienne, pepper, all good

336
00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,560
Speaker 3: stuff and it is good for you. You could put smoothies,

337
00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,480
Speaker 3: you can sprinkle it on your savory dishes. And I

338
00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,080
Speaker 3: can tell you they get some of the best snacks.

339
00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,280
Speaker 3: And I'm in a mode now where I'm not trying

340
00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,040
Speaker 3: to overindulge between meals. They've got these freeze dried mangos,

341
00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,080
Speaker 3: the most delicious things you ever have. One ingredient mangos.

342
00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,760
Speaker 4: I love that. It's just good for you.

343
00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,160
Speaker 3: Supplements include forty seven ingredients of one hundred percent whole fruits, vegetables, spices,

344
00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,400
Speaker 3: and fibers. Add this year daily routine and watch your

345
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,520
Speaker 3: health improve this year year. You can lock in fifty

346
00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,680
Speaker 3: percent off for a year when you subscribe to the

347
00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,440
Speaker 3: Whole Health System Preferred Customers, which you will be say,

348
00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,680
Speaker 3: your preferred customer when you get there at Balance of

349
00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,560
Speaker 3: nature dot com fifty percent off for a year, I

350
00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,280
Speaker 3: recommend it.

351
00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:45,639
Speaker 2: It's very clear. It's the core foundational economic issues. I mean,

352
00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:46,240
Speaker 2: I can sort of.

353
00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,600
Speaker 5: Run through the mean please, I'm going to run through

354
00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,920
Speaker 5: the specific points underneath each of them. Of course is

355
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,280
Speaker 5: a lot of policy work and detail, but very simply,

356
00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:03,080
Speaker 5: the goal here is to is to enable people just

357
00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,080
Speaker 5: to live their life free of the kind of struggle,

358
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,960
Speaker 5: the financial struggle that is there right now. So especially

359
00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,080
Speaker 5: it's aimed at working families and small business I used

360
00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,160
Speaker 5: to be a small business owner. I've been at working

361
00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,280
Speaker 5: so that those are the people I'm really fighting for,

362
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,919
Speaker 5: and so and and and actually the next generation because

363
00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,240
Speaker 5: the most heartbreaking thing of all you see now this

364
00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,119
Speaker 5: incredible state, and people are leaving, and in particularly younger people,

365
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,199
Speaker 5: and you see and you just ask them, are you

366
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,879
Speaker 5: going to stay in California when you graduate?

367
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:32,800
Speaker 2: Whatever? No, I can't.

368
00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,320
Speaker 5: I'll never be able to afford a house here. I'll

369
00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,680
Speaker 5: never be able to you know, if I want to

370
00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,440
Speaker 5: start a business or pursue something. It's so difficult here.

371
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,720
Speaker 5: That's what's that's what we've got to stop. So the

372
00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,480
Speaker 5: components of that are very simple. Number one, we have

373
00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:50,199
Speaker 5: to end this ruinous climate crusade when you look at

374
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,919
Speaker 5: the reasons that everything is so expensive and impossible to

375
00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,520
Speaker 5: do in California. A huge part of it is what

376
00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,640
Speaker 5: they call their climate agenda, the climate crusade, dreamist obsession

377
00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 5: with climate. And the first two components of that will

378
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 5: be to end their war on fossil fuels so that

379
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,480
Speaker 5: we can actually use the natural resources we have in California,

380
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,200
Speaker 5: oil and gas in particular, so that we can bring

381
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,199
Speaker 5: gas prices down. Because for working people in California, that

382
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,719
Speaker 5: is a total nightmare, right.

383
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 2: It's not the climate.

384
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 5: Warriors in Marin County or over in Berkeley, you know,

385
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 5: tapping away on their MacBooks working from home. It's working

386
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 5: class Californias who are crushed by these gas prices. So

387
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,680
Speaker 5: instead of five to six dollar gas and maybe heading

388
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 5: higher as refinery s clos, we're going to.

389
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 2: Have three dollar gas.

390
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 5: That's my first policy thing that I promised on the

391
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 5: campaign trip three dollar gas. And we're going to end

392
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 5: the obsession with wind and solar and the subsidies that

393
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,159
Speaker 5: go to that to generate electricity. We can use natural

394
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 5: gas to generate electricity and moving to nuclear and so

395
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 5: we can cut electric bills in half. Right now they're

396
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 5: more than double the national average. Then you look at taxes,

397
00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 5: You've got this bloated government bureaucracy and the and the

398
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,239
Speaker 5: massive growth of this welfare state in California. You're going

399
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 5: to cut all that back. Just this week, I announced

400
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 5: plans for cal Doje to tackle the fraud and the corrupt,

401
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 5: massive waste, and then we will be able to cut

402
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 5: spending so we can cut taxes. The tax plan is

403
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 5: very simple. Your first hundred grand, it's pro worker, your

404
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 5: first one hundred grand, no state income tax above one

405
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,439
Speaker 5: hundred grand, the pro growth element, a flat tax of

406
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 5: seven point five percent. Then you look at healthcare, massive

407
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 5: burden for so.

408
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 3: Much before we get say healthcare because the tax stuff

409
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 3: is so important to me and healthcare is too. But

410
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about this, is that people don't

411
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 3: understand the burden that this place in the whole state,

412
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 3: the tax burden. Because I'll tell you that my I

413
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: have very good income and my wife does it as well,

414
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 3: so we we're doing okay.

415
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you that in.

416
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 3: My family, we're this little economic engine because we have

417
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 3: domestic help. We have three car payments, we're making, we've

418
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 3: got uh you know, people come in and out for

419
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 3: lessons and for children and for childcare, and there's all

420
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 3: these different things. And the more you confiscate from us,

421
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 3: then it's all going to good places. I'm not sending

422
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 3: it to a Swiss bank account. And we're the exact

423
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 3: type of people who you could drive out of the

424
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 3: state because the extra ten eleven percent that I would

425
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 3: get if I lived in Florida every year would really

426
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: make a big difference in my family. And that is

427
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 3: just not a consideration. There's not any single person, it

428
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 3: feels like, in Sacramento whoever thinks of it that way.

429
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 5: No, they don't, And actually we put a number on

430
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 5: it just this was it last week. Because what you've

431
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 5: got now, I mean, you know, of course, the Democrats

432
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 5: talk about affordability, right, and they want to own that term,

433
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 5: and you are President Trump, you know, expressing his view

434
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 5: on that whatever. But the simple point is that the

435
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 5: reason that California is the most expensive place in America,

436
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 5: it's nothing to do with Trump or anyone else, is

437
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 5: Democrat policies. And so we have to first of all

438
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 5: make that argument clear. We actually quantified it. So we

439
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 5: did a very simple calculation. Just the other day published this,

440
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 5: and I'm going to tell you something you might enjoy

441
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 5: doing yourself, which is we took the average costs for

442
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 5: every all the key items of spending, all the things

443
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 5: you've listed, childcare, rent, mortgage, tech, whatever the situation is,

444
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 5: gas utilities, roasted all that, and we just compared the

445
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 5: national average with the California average to look at what

446
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 5: I call the Democrat tax overall, the extra you pay

447
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 5: for Democrat policies. The dollar amount on average is thirty

448
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 5: five thousand dollars a year average.

449
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: I believe it, you're going to be much higher.

450
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 5: So you can actually put We created an online calculator

451
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 5: so you can put in your cost so anyone watching,

452
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 5: you've got a californiademtax dot com.

453
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, put in your numbers and see how much you're.

454
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 4: Paying californiandemtax dot com. Very cool.

455
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, See, this is the sort of thing. It's because

456
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: people like me who believe in the state. I'm still

457
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 3: on thin ice. It's like I have all four of

458
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 3: the grandparents are in the picture. They're all in California.

459
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 3: We actually are lucky enough to live in an area

460
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 3: with a usable school system, which with four kids, it saves.

461
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 4: A lot of money in that regard.

462
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 3: And it's now I've got a job where I'm supposed

463
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: to theoretically come into a California off if any of

464
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 3: those go away, Steve, I think about like the second

465
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: one of them, not all of them. And that's just

466
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 3: not how you should treat your tax base, because we're

467
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: earners and we should be treated with a little more

468
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 3: respect than we're getting. Get to healthcare, and then I

469
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 3: want to talk about immigration.

470
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 5: With you healthcare, Well they're connected, actually, because my simple

471
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 5: point is this, we are now spending if you added

472
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 5: up the direct costs and then the associated cost, gavin

473
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 5: you some twenty billion dollars a year on free healthcare

474
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 5: for illegal immigrants.

475
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: People shouldn't even.

476
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 5: Be here while you've got hard work in Californians who

477
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 5: can barely afford their healthcare costs and are massively struggling.

478
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 5: And there's real resentment about that. So I'm very clear

479
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 5: that that's under the control of the governor. We will

480
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 5: stop that spend. We will cut that spending completely and

481
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 5: use it to lower healthcare costs. And wait, times, because

482
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 5: that's becoming a nightmare as well because of the illegal

483
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 5: immigration for Californians. So that's very simple and fair and

484
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 5: widely supported. No more health care for free healthcare, full

485
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 5: scope medical for illegal immigrants in order to we can

486
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 5: lower healthcare costs and wait times for Californians.

487
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: Immigration.

488
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: Illegal immigration and legal immigration are both posed different challenges,

489
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: but illegal immigration is really what has been the cardinal

490
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 3: sin of this state. I think that the normalization of

491
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: illegal immigration and the insistence that we accept all of

492
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: it has been going on since I was a child

493
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: and has not worked out at all, And yet there

494
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 3: seems to be no reappraisal of this.

495
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 4: But what can the governor do in this regard, Well.

496
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 5: We can stop creating the incentives for more illegal immigration,

497
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 5: obviously the federal immigration immigration is a federal matter in

498
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 5: terms of policy and law and enforcement number one. However,

499
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 5: we can stop creating the incentives here, like their free healthcare.

500
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 2: All of that has to stop.

501
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 5: Of course, the flow of new illegal immigration is massively

502
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 5: you know, clamped down thanks to President Trump closing the border.

503
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 5: But then the other point is that when you get

504
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 5: to the enforcement of immigration law, I mean, I just

505
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 5: completely against the sanctuary policy. It is a lie to

506
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 5: say that California's sanctuary state law SB fifty four, past

507
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen, prevents cooperation with federal immigration enforcement.

508
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: That's not true.

509
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 5: And as governor and with my Attorney general, I'm one

510
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 5: of the things that's innovative about the campaign I'm running

511
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 5: here is I'm actually putting together a team. We call

512
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 5: it the Golden Ticket, to make sure that we've got

513
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 5: a strong team. As a team effort always is in government,

514
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 5: in business and anything. And I'm running with a very

515
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 5: strong candidate for Attorney General, Michael Gates, who was the

516
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 5: city attorney in Huntington Beach, very strongly Gavin youwsome on

517
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 5: housing mandates, on voter id on the sanctuary state law,

518
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 5: and he and I we've put out a statement just

519
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 5: really recently.

520
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: We're going to be very.

521
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 5: Clear that we will insist that obviously state law enforcement

522
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 5: that we run, but also local cooperates on the enforcement

523
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 5: of federal immigration law that has to we have to.

524
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 5: We put it very simply, all must be peacefully enforced,

525
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 5: and that's what we'll do.

526
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: See Hilton, I want to ask one question. There is

527
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 3: a challenging one But this is really really essential here

528
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 3: because if you look at the polls, it's a total

529
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: jungle right now. But you and a guy named Chad bianco'

530
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 3: is a sheriff out here, are in the lead, both

531
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: running as Republicans. Are you guys willing to make an

532
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: electoral packed to tell voters to choose one of the

533
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 3: other and agree not to attack each other, Because the

534
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: only way either of you win and help the state

535
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 3: is if you guys finish one and two, specifically in

536
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 3: the primary, which is a distinct possibility right now. So

537
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: could you guys form some sort of alliance to attack

538
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: Democrats only for the time being.

539
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: Well, I'm already doing that. I haven't attacked. I mean

540
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: that's actually.

541
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 5: Been my position and it's not his, but it is

542
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 5: mine because I think that honestly, it is certainly in

543
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 5: California Republicans are attacked all the time by everyone else,

544
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 5: So we don't need to add to it.

545
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is let me just speak on your behalf then, Steve,

546
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: is that if this is the risk here is that

547
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 3: in a general, it's going to go to a general

548
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 3: with Democrats if one of the Republicans both the Republicans

549
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 3: need to max out in the primary in order for

550
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: us to have a chance in a general, because in

551
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: a general, a Republican, even a strong Republican, is going

552
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: to go against the whole Democrat machine.

553
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 4: This is the trick here. I hope he sees this well.

554
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 5: I think that we okay. I think this is a

555
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 5: part two of the conversation, Alex, because there's a lot,

556
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 5: there's a lot to unpack.

557
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 2: Then I'd love to do that. It's very, very important.

558
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 5: But just to be really direct about it, I don't

559
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 5: believe that the Democrat machine, which as you say, it's

560
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 5: incredibly powerful, the.

561
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: Government unions, it's totally corrupt.

562
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 5: I don't think that they will allow a situation where

563
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 5: there are two Republicans in.

564
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 2: The top two and this ridiculous.

565
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 5: They will make sure that they and they'll use every

566
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 5: trick in the book, as we've seen before to manipulate.

567
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 5: They'll want to elevate the weaker Republican. They don't want

568
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 5: two Republicans. They want to make sure there's a Democrat.

569
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 5: The unions will want their puppet candidate in there. That's

570
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 5: what they've always ended up with, and they'll make it happen.

571
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 5: They'll get others to drop out or offer them other jobs.

572
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi is very involved in it.

573
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 5: So I think the real argument here is actually that

574
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 5: we can win in California against the Democrat machine because

575
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 5: people are so sick of it.

576
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: And it's all about turnout.

577
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 5: Because actually, if you look at the numbers, the votes

578
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 5: that President Trump got in twenty twenty four in California,

579
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 5: even without campaigning here are enough to elect a Republican

580
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 5: if we get maximum turnout. And that's not an easy

581
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 5: thing to do, but it's absolutely doable if you have

582
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 5: a strong, clear message. And for too long in California,

583
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 5: I think Republicans have assumed that the only way you

584
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 5: win is to be some kind of wishy washy, watered

585
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: down Republican. No, you've got to inspire people, got to

586
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 5: get people fired up, and that's how we do it.

587
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 5: And secondly, something very important we'll be on the ballot

588
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 5: in November, which is voter ID.

589
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: We've just got on that. I've been working on trank Caldayer.

590
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: It's very big. Republicans love that. That will help get

591
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 5: turnout up. And so my view is we have to

592
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 5: make sure that the strongest, best qualified, and strongest campaigner

593
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 5: gets into the top two on the Republican side, and

594
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 5: I'm making the case that that's me. I've got the

595
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 5: business experience, the government reform experience, the media experience that

596
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 5: you know. I'm friends with the half the cabinet, the president.

597
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: You know, I can bring a lot to the table

598
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 5: for this race. And that's why I'm making the argument

599
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 5: that we've got to get behind one Republican and it

600
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 5: should be me.

601
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: Steve Hilton.

602
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: I got a bound of questions I got I didn't

603
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: get any of them.

604
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: I got just the one. So I'm hoping this will

605
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: be a regular thing. The primary sign til gul So.

606
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: Let's come back and do a bunch of these things

607
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: and flesh out all the issues facing the state. But

608
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: tell people where to go to follow you and keep

609
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: up the campaign.

610
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Alex.

611
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 5: It's Steve Hilton for governor dot com fo or Steve

612
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: Hilton for governor dot com.

613
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: Well keep it up.

614
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: We'll be rooting you on and come back to the

615
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: Marlow Show sometime soon.

616
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely, thanks, Alex. You say thanks, Steve