1
00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,600
Speaker 1: Life Audio.

2
00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,119
Speaker 2: Hi there, and welcome to the Praying Christian Women Podcast.

3
00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,559
Speaker 2: I'm Jamie Hampton and I'm so excited to be here

4
00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:17,680
Speaker 2: today with Kristin Rickards. Kristen is a musician, a radio host, model,

5
00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,120
Speaker 2: and author of A Life Worth Living in Christ ninety

6
00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,600
Speaker 2: Days to Clarity, Purpose and Hope.

7
00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,160
Speaker 3: Kristin, there's so much to.

8
00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,600
Speaker 2: Talk about, like I feel like we need multiple interviews

9
00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,520
Speaker 2: to cover it all, but thank you for being here

10
00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,159
Speaker 2: for this one to talk about your story and just

11
00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,479
Speaker 2: to share the hope, just the ways that God has

12
00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,639
Speaker 2: worked in your life.

13
00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,159
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to connect with you, Jamie, and You've

14
00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,440
Speaker 1: gotten the right person. I am a talker, so when

15
00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,880
Speaker 1: you said can we talk for an hour? I said yes,

16
00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,479
Speaker 1: I can talk for hours.

17
00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,760
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that.

18
00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,199
Speaker 2: That makes my job so easy. It's like, take it

19
00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,000
Speaker 2: and go, Kristen.

20
00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,640
Speaker 1: You want to talk about apple Pie, We'll talk about that.

21
00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:54,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.

22
00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to start making notes of all the different

23
00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,520
Speaker 2: podcast episodes we're going to have to have together, because yeah,

24
00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,560
Speaker 2: I mean, we have never had someone on the podcast

25
00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,680
Speaker 2: that wore so many hats. I don't think because I

26
00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,160
Speaker 2: feel like we could talk to you about each of

27
00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,880
Speaker 2: these hats.

28
00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,360
Speaker 3: That you wear at length.

29
00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,080
Speaker 2: And so I think we're going to probably focus a

30
00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,440
Speaker 2: lot on your book right now, but I'd love to

31
00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,360
Speaker 2: have you back to ask some other questions about things.

32
00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, so before we get into it, though, before

33
00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,240
Speaker 2: we get into you and your story, we like to

34
00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,680
Speaker 2: ask all of our guests, what is your favorite prayer closet?

35
00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,440
Speaker 2: Where do you like to go to meet with God?

36
00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,800
Speaker 2: It could be a literal closet, It could be a

37
00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,319
Speaker 2: prayer chair, it could be somewhere wild and crazy and

38
00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,479
Speaker 2: wacky that we've never heard.

39
00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,360
Speaker 1: I love that question. No one has ever asked that question,

40
00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,280
Speaker 1: and that's such an obvious, great question because it's so important,

41
00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,240
Speaker 1: and you're right, it could it. For me, it is

42
00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,920
Speaker 1: a physical place, and that place has changed, but sometimes

43
00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,600
Speaker 1: it is if I'm on the go, it's the car

44
00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,960
Speaker 1: or you know, a hotel room. Growing up, of course,

45
00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,120
Speaker 1: it was my bedroom, and now that I got married

46
00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,880
Speaker 1: and moved to another house, it's in another place. Obviously,

47
00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,520
Speaker 1: it's in the guest room of my house, which is

48
00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,200
Speaker 1: being converted to a nursery because I'm pregnant with my

49
00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,760
Speaker 1: baby girl with congratulations, But wherever it is, the common

50
00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,079
Speaker 1: theme is it's got to be a place where I

51
00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,960
Speaker 1: can have a window where I can look out at

52
00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,400
Speaker 1: God's creation, because I feel like that's how I start

53
00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,280
Speaker 1: of just of course, no phone, no just no distractions

54
00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,160
Speaker 1: and just be able to look out the window and

55
00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,760
Speaker 1: hear God speak through nature and then then start talking

56
00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,560
Speaker 1: to him start because I feel like He's got so

57
00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,960
Speaker 1: much to say, and I always think you can hear him.

58
00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000
Speaker 1: A talker, I want to say everything first, but I

59
00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,760
Speaker 1: try to be still and just hear what He has

60
00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,720
Speaker 1: to say first, and that is so important to have

61
00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,880
Speaker 1: that space. You're so right. So I love my prayer room.

62
00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we hear this over and over again. People

63
00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,760
Speaker 2: will talk about nature being like a component of their

64
00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,240
Speaker 2: prayer time a lot of times, not always, but I

65
00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,840
Speaker 2: find the same thing. It's like just being in God's creation.

66
00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,200
Speaker 2: And you know, like the saying touch grass, I mean

67
00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,160
Speaker 2: we need to touch grass sometimes. I literally I remember

68
00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,040
Speaker 2: being in a really tough time. My mom had dementia.

69
00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,840
Speaker 2: She's passed away many years ago now, but she had

70
00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,560
Speaker 2: dementia very young, and it was just the first time

71
00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,720
Speaker 2: in my life that I had debilitating grief, and I

72
00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,160
Speaker 2: remember this feeling of just I thought I felt like

73
00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,360
Speaker 2: I was needed to get out of my skin or something,

74
00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,520
Speaker 2: and I just thought, I have to take my shoes

75
00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,640
Speaker 2: off and walk in the grass. And there was something

76
00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,320
Speaker 2: about like being connected to the grass that just made

77
00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,760
Speaker 2: me feel like, Okay, God, I'm like I'm closer to

78
00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,480
Speaker 2: you now somehow. And I can't explain it, but that's

79
00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,680
Speaker 2: how I feel when I'm in my garden. When i'm

80
00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,240
Speaker 2: and even when I'm indoors, I like to be looking

81
00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,480
Speaker 2: outside some mountains in the distance from where we live,

82
00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,680
Speaker 2: and so I do. I like to have a little

83
00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,600
Speaker 2: like prayer window area, like a window seat in our room,

84
00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,920
Speaker 2: and I can look out and kind of see the mountain.

85
00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,160
Speaker 2: There's just something about that that makes us, I think,

86
00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,600
Speaker 2: feel more connected to him absolutely.

87
00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,040
Speaker 1: And I because I live in New Jersey and our

88
00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,480
Speaker 1: our climate is very it's a varying climate.

89
00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,880
Speaker 3: It is extremes.

90
00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,279
Speaker 1: You know, when it's nice out doing those prayer walks

91
00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,400
Speaker 1: and all of that is so great to be in nature.

92
00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,840
Speaker 1: But if it's freezing, I'm not much of a I'm

93
00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,159
Speaker 1: not a camper, I'm not a hiker, So just looking

94
00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,000
Speaker 1: out a window is it works for me. But I

95
00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,839
Speaker 1: do feel with you there. I had a grandmother who

96
00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,240
Speaker 1: had and I know it's not the same as having

97
00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,760
Speaker 1: a mother who has dementia, but she lived with us

98
00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,440
Speaker 1: from the time I was five till I was ten,

99
00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,960
Speaker 1: And unless you've walked that journey, it's it's tough. And

100
00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,960
Speaker 1: again it's different. Grandmother is a different role. But I

101
00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,120
Speaker 1: saw it was tough on my dad and on my parents,

102
00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,240
Speaker 1: And you know that's the thing. God holds your hand

103
00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:00,479
Speaker 1: through that, and I'm sure we have a lot of

104
00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,760
Speaker 1: listeners who are in that position as well. So God,

105
00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,599
Speaker 1: God definitely walks through that journey and carries you through

106
00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,039
Speaker 1: that journey as well.

107
00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely well. Which came first? So which came first? Being

108
00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,080
Speaker 2: a model, being a radio host, being a singer, songwriter,

109
00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,600
Speaker 2: or being a writer an author? Like, what are of

110
00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,520
Speaker 2: those things? What was your journey and what were the

111
00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,480
Speaker 2: stepping stones?

112
00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,360
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me try to condense it, because I'll

113
00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,880
Speaker 1: tell you my life story. But basically I would say

114
00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,560
Speaker 1: that my whole life, my whole family is very musical,

115
00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,279
Speaker 1: where like the Partridge family or there I love it.

116
00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:43,120
Speaker 1: So I was born into music. I from my earliest

117
00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,560
Speaker 1: memories as a baby, just music. And I'm doing the

118
00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,040
Speaker 1: same thing for my little one, just constantly floting, of course,

119
00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,160
Speaker 1: to worship music. When I say music, the worshiping God

120
00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,120
Speaker 1: and that environment and music because I believe it's so

121
00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,520
Speaker 1: important and so And then when I was actually as

122
00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,240
Speaker 1: as young as three years old, my sister, who was

123
00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years older than me, begged my parents

124
00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,000
Speaker 1: to go in an audition for a Broadway show and

125
00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,040
Speaker 1: she got the Broadway show as Annie, and she did

126
00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,440
Speaker 1: Annie and Salent music. And I was a three four

127
00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,640
Speaker 1: year old surrounded by that, and I was like, when

128
00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,960
Speaker 1: can I start? When can I? I always wanted to

129
00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,919
Speaker 1: have that performance bug they call it, so at age

130
00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,480
Speaker 1: five I started. I did my first film, a major

131
00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,599
Speaker 1: motion picture and Nickelodeon stuff and did all the acting stuff.

132
00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,560
Speaker 1: And I was so fortunate to have parents. And I

133
00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,840
Speaker 1: know we'll probably touch on this later, but I will

134
00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,640
Speaker 1: say that as advocates, we were in good, wholesome things.

135
00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,120
Speaker 1: We were not you know, they kept that because as

136
00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,520
Speaker 1: a five year old you can't make those decisions. But

137
00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,679
Speaker 1: then came the time when I was about I guess

138
00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,000
Speaker 1: early teens, where things started being questionable and we just

139
00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,960
Speaker 1: felt not called there anymore. So my sister and I.

140
00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,960
Speaker 1: We had our own variety show. When we traveled the country.

141
00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,479
Speaker 1: We got to perform at the White House and for

142
00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,039
Speaker 1: the Men, and had all great experiences. During that time.

143
00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,080
Speaker 1: I was also a Miss New Jersey teenager, so I

144
00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,920
Speaker 1: had all those experiences. Fast forward, because I'm condensing all

145
00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,800
Speaker 1: this to when I got married. I met my husband

146
00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,400
Speaker 1: seven years ago and I got married five it'll be

147
00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,320
Speaker 1: five years in May. And he has really been the

148
00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,200
Speaker 1: wind beneath my wings as far as seeing me take

149
00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:25,000
Speaker 1: off as a solo artist, solo career songwriting, I've always

150
00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,040
Speaker 1: I've written songs. Even when I was a little girl.

151
00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,320
Speaker 1: I would write in journal. That was my way to

152
00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:34,760
Speaker 1: express to the Lord, whether it was happy things or frustrations,

153
00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,760
Speaker 1: whatever it was. Songs came out of that and they

154
00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,320
Speaker 1: still do to this day. And so I felt the

155
00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,640
Speaker 1: path the calling to do, you know, to be a

156
00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,920
Speaker 1: worship leader and do Christian music and write Christian music.

157
00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,920
Speaker 1: And then the book came after that most recently, and

158
00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,720
Speaker 1: the modeling all throughout. But you know, it's funny because

159
00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,440
Speaker 1: I was kind of thinking, because I grew up doing

160
00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,680
Speaker 1: kind of more secular things, wholesome but secular, I said, God,

161
00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,080
Speaker 1: can I influence. Still do you want me in this

162
00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,160
Speaker 1: Christian market so to speak? And God really spoke to

163
00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,559
Speaker 1: me and said, look, you don't need to water anything down.

164
00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,680
Speaker 1: You need to just proclaim. People are hungry for my truth.

165
00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,400
Speaker 1: You proclaim my words. You write songs that blatantly say

166
00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,640
Speaker 1: everything about me, and people will be drawn to that.

167
00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,440
Speaker 1: And I've seen Christians and non Christians drawn to my

168
00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:28,320
Speaker 1: music and my books, and that is what just sets

169
00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,760
Speaker 1: my soul on fire to know that it's, you know,

170
00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,520
Speaker 1: bringing more people to Him. So I've tried to condense

171
00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,680
Speaker 1: that as much as I could, even though that was mouthful.

172
00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,160
Speaker 3: That's so good you.

173
00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,240
Speaker 2: I feel like you had to have practiced that because

174
00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,800
Speaker 2: that's so much No, so we can add actress. I

175
00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,960
Speaker 2: didn't realize that was part of it too, So yeah,

176
00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,480
Speaker 2: that is. I love what you said there because I

177
00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,760
Speaker 2: think as Christians we can compartmentalize to the point of

178
00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:00,319
Speaker 2: excluding things that can still be considered worship. For since

179
00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,120
Speaker 2: a job in a secular space where we could say, oh,

180
00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,880
Speaker 2: well that's not worship, that's not Christian. To be a

181
00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,280
Speaker 2: good Christian, I have to do this. And what God

182
00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,520
Speaker 2: told you was you don't have to be labeled as

183
00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,679
Speaker 2: something create authentically without a filter, not trying to curb

184
00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,480
Speaker 2: it so that it'll fit into a non Christian naure,

185
00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,480
Speaker 2: you know. But just create authentically and I will bless

186
00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,920
Speaker 2: it and people will be blessed by it. I just

187
00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,280
Speaker 2: think that's beautiful. That's such a like a freeing way

188
00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,839
Speaker 2: to look at being creatives is creating authentically.

189
00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because as you know, it can really paralyze you

190
00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,319
Speaker 1: to think, to start thinking when you do wear a

191
00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,719
Speaker 1: lot of hats, and Jamie, I'm sure you do too,

192
00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,240
Speaker 1: and all of our listeners. If you're a mom, if

193
00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,880
Speaker 1: you're a wife, if you're everything, you're wearing a lot

194
00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,280
Speaker 1: of hats. So it's that can paralyze you to think

195
00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,520
Speaker 1: when you overthink things and instead you just do everything

196
00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,160
Speaker 1: unto the Lord and then he'll put it where it's

197
00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,120
Speaker 1: supposed to be. So absolutely, that's great.

198
00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,960
Speaker 3: I love that. Well, you kind of touched on this

199
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,360
Speaker 3: a little.

200
00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,600
Speaker 2: So what is it like being in and I initially

201
00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,840
Speaker 2: said in the modeling world as a Christian woman, but

202
00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,480
Speaker 2: also in the you know, television world, in the broadway world.

203
00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,640
Speaker 2: You know, what is it like being in artistic spaces

204
00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,360
Speaker 2: that are pretty you know, not overtly Christian What is

205
00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:25,959
Speaker 2: that like?

206
00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,080
Speaker 3: Have have there been times when you've.

207
00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,600
Speaker 2: Had to stand up against some of the norms that

208
00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,240
Speaker 2: that are maybe go against your faith? Is it awkward ever,

209
00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,000
Speaker 2: or do you find it comes naturally?

210
00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,240
Speaker 1: It's funny because it's well, I shouldn't say it's funny,

211
00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,440
Speaker 1: but it's you know, we have really seen the tide

212
00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,480
Speaker 1: go just so far. I think about when I was

213
00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,120
Speaker 1: a kid acting in these things, there was still some

214
00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,120
Speaker 1: element of I would say, respect for Christian values, and

215
00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,480
Speaker 1: so there was not Yes, there was things out there

216
00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,800
Speaker 1: that were just bad projects that my manager at the

217
00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,120
Speaker 1: time I won't even I don't even want to mention

218
00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,480
Speaker 1: the name of them, but you would know they're very

219
00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,160
Speaker 1: famous things that came out. They wanted me to be

220
00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,320
Speaker 1: the lead for. I would have been famous and all

221
00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,760
Speaker 1: this stuff, and my parents said no. They didn't even

222
00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,880
Speaker 1: have to think twice. And I'm so grateful they put

223
00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,040
Speaker 1: that precedent and instilled that in me, because what is

224
00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,200
Speaker 1: it to gain the world and lose your soul. But

225
00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,160
Speaker 1: there was more opportunities than to be as I said,

226
00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,920
Speaker 1: my sister was in the sound of music. The stuff

227
00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,520
Speaker 1: that I was involved with were very, very wholesome, very

228
00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,120
Speaker 1: uplifting kind of content and you could find people in pockets.

229
00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,240
Speaker 1: Now that's why we started to kind of do our

230
00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,400
Speaker 1: own thing, because we saw that tide start to shift.

231
00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,600
Speaker 1: I will say the great news about today is that

232
00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,400
Speaker 1: there's more Christian projects out there. I'm actually working on

233
00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,640
Speaker 1: being a producer. They want to use my song on

234
00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,720
Speaker 1: a Christian film, and I love that that that's in

235
00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,880
Speaker 1: the main market that didn't really exist when I was

236
00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,520
Speaker 1: a kid, that at least in this capacity. So there's

237
00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,319
Speaker 1: still those opportunities. If you're a person who feels called

238
00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,320
Speaker 1: to the entertainment industry, you just have to know you're

239
00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,240
Speaker 1: lying like and have it non compromising, like if you

240
00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,360
Speaker 1: just kind of don't if you vaguely know, that's not

241
00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,520
Speaker 1: good enough because you'll be drug way over. You've got

242
00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,640
Speaker 1: to have those values in place, so you know, yeah,

243
00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,640
Speaker 1: is there you know, persecution and all those things that

244
00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,240
Speaker 1: people say. And I always hate to use that word

245
00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,640
Speaker 1: because I always think of like the people in the

246
00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,000
Speaker 1: Bible or the Christians around the world that are persecuted

247
00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,960
Speaker 1: for their faith. To me, that's if someone's just not

248
00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,680
Speaker 1: nice to you, that's I don't know, it's not obviously

249
00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,959
Speaker 1: the same level of persecution, although we tend to call

250
00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,800
Speaker 1: it that, but you know, yes, there are those things,

251
00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,720
Speaker 1: but if you know what you're doing it for and

252
00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,240
Speaker 1: you keep your eyes on the prize, it's all worth it.

253
00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,240
Speaker 1: And there is there are people you can connect with

254
00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,840
Speaker 1: that are on the same level and value as you.

255
00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've read a couple of books recently about Christians

256
00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,360
Speaker 2: in different kinds of industries that aren't Christian, and I

257
00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,199
Speaker 2: think the key to what I see in their ability

258
00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,439
Speaker 2: to maintain their faith is making connections with other Christians

259
00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,360
Speaker 2: and that kind of helps them be grounded. I'm curious

260
00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,880
Speaker 2: when your parents set those boundaries, were you mad, Like

261
00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,320
Speaker 2: were you upset at the time, Like did you feel

262
00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,520
Speaker 2: like you were missing out or like they were holding

263
00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,679
Speaker 2: you back? Or were you grateful at the time. I

264
00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,400
Speaker 2: know you said looking back, you're grateful.

265
00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,120
Speaker 1: I was grateful at the time, because I don't think

266
00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,960
Speaker 1: that I even you know, I knew, I guess because

267
00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,319
Speaker 1: of my age, because I started so early, I didn't

268
00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,480
Speaker 1: really have the concept. Maybe if I had been a

269
00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,720
Speaker 1: little older, I might have had the temptation to be

270
00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,960
Speaker 1: like you know, every person has that fleshly, I want

271
00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,560
Speaker 1: to be famous, I want to be seen. We all

272
00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,920
Speaker 1: want to be noticed. It might have been because of

273
00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,280
Speaker 1: my age that when Goldie Hawn or whoever was right there,

274
00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,040
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, good for you, you know, like

275
00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,600
Speaker 1: I just didn't you know what together this is a

276
00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,640
Speaker 1: famous person, so they really shielded. I don't know that

277
00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,000
Speaker 1: they ever even It's not that they like lied to

278
00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,160
Speaker 1: me or kept something from me, but I think they

279
00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,600
Speaker 1: just probably declined something and they told me later and

280
00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,080
Speaker 1: it was not made a big deal out of it

281
00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,240
Speaker 1: wasn't so to me. It was like, okay, we're not

282
00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,040
Speaker 1: doing that. It wasn't like it wasn't till later that

283
00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,960
Speaker 1: I found out, oh that was that movie that I

284
00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,520
Speaker 1: was supposed to be an end then at my gratitude. Really,

285
00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,040
Speaker 1: then I was really grateful because I do know people

286
00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,640
Speaker 1: unfortunately who've gone down that path, and you see unfortunately

287
00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,720
Speaker 1: through the years and you think, oh my goodness, it's

288
00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:54,239
Speaker 1: just so destructive and even from even from a secular perspective,

289
00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,000
Speaker 1: it's not even good for their mental health. Of course

290
00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,520
Speaker 1: we know the spiritual part behind that. But no, I

291
00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,640
Speaker 1: think I was grateful, or at the very least just like, okay, whatever.

292
00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,600
Speaker 1: But now more than ever, I'm grateful because then I

293
00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,760
Speaker 1: that instilled in me the boundaries as well that I

294
00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,520
Speaker 1: look for. I remember in my dancing school then wanting

295
00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,600
Speaker 1: to play a really bad again. I don't want to

296
00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,120
Speaker 1: mention the name of the artist to give them any credit,

297
00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,200
Speaker 1: but I just could feel how this was not of

298
00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,160
Speaker 1: the Lord, this song that they wanted to play for

299
00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,480
Speaker 1: and I said, no, I'm not dancing to it, and

300
00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,040
Speaker 1: the dance teacher was like, you know, saying to me,

301
00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,640
Speaker 1: and I remember I was like twelve thirteen, and they said,

302
00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,320
Speaker 1: you need to apologize to all the people that are

303
00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,840
Speaker 1: you're letting down. We could win competition. So that wasn't

304
00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,480
Speaker 1: even professional acting world. That was just you know, the

305
00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,760
Speaker 1: dancing school. But those kinds of things of saying no,

306
00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm standing my ground. The more you do it, the

307
00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,360
Speaker 1: more it shapes you and the more you're conviction. So

308
00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,640
Speaker 1: that's that's what's great. And kids watch, kids watch what

309
00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,960
Speaker 1: we do, yeah, and then they follow suit. So absolutely

310
00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,120
Speaker 1: that's great.

311
00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,280
Speaker 2: And I loved what you said about deciding where your

312
00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,760
Speaker 2: line is before, like before the situation comes up where

313
00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,760
Speaker 2: you have to decide, because when you have that like

314
00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,840
Speaker 2: forbidden fruit in front of you, if you don't already

315
00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,760
Speaker 2: have the line there. It could be so easy, I imagine,

316
00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,240
Speaker 2: to compromise and make up reasons why, oh yeah, I

317
00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,080
Speaker 2: haven't set my line. I guess it could be just

318
00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,440
Speaker 2: right on the other side of that thing, you know,

319
00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,800
Speaker 2: because it's not that bad. But if you have your

320
00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,080
Speaker 2: convictions set and your lines, and you kind of think

321
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,480
Speaker 2: forward to opportunities or things that could present themselves that

322
00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,160
Speaker 2: might be compromising, you can kind of plan for that.

323
00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,400
Speaker 3: I think that's so important.

324
00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,720
Speaker 1: Yes, And you know it's something that Satan and I

325
00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,560
Speaker 1: is really tricky with is because there is such great

326
00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,720
Speaker 1: Christian content out there. I think that he wants to

327
00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,640
Speaker 1: attack it. And I think even with Christian content, you

328
00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,720
Speaker 1: have to be if you're asked to do something, you

329
00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,760
Speaker 1: have to still have your guard up for a second.

330
00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,720
Speaker 1: You can't just say, oh, this is Christian, I'll do it.

331
00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,800
Speaker 1: I learned that because I remember thinking, oh, this is Christian.

332
00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes unfortunately, they're just capitalizing on the term Christian because

333
00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,800
Speaker 1: they know they're going to get an audience. There are,

334
00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,680
Speaker 1: of course great Christian there's great Christian content out there,

335
00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,680
Speaker 1: but you have to look for it. Then there's other

336
00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,200
Speaker 1: things that they may not have the same line as

337
00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,480
Speaker 1: you do. They may not be as mature in the faith.

338
00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,600
Speaker 1: So you've got to really say, even if the project

339
00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,400
Speaker 1: says Christian, let's look and really go through and make

340
00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,080
Speaker 1: sure you know that it's something with the right focus,

341
00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,600
Speaker 1: because just because it has that label, you can't just

342
00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,760
Speaker 1: take that for granted. Too.

343
00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,480
Speaker 3: That's really good advice.

344
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,680
Speaker 2: And I imagine that even if the content is totally Christian,

345
00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,440
Speaker 2: it's still you're involved with people that are humans, and

346
00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,080
Speaker 2: they may or may not be people with the best intentions,

347
00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,479
Speaker 2: or even if they have good intentions, maybe they have

348
00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,960
Speaker 2: bad methods and you do have to be discerning. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

349
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,400
Speaker 2: that is all such good advice. Well, I would love

350
00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,479
Speaker 2: to talk about your book. So your book is called

351
00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,760
Speaker 2: A Life Worth Living in Christ ninety eight, Life, Clarity,

352
00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,080
Speaker 2: Purpose and Hope.

353
00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,240
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's right.

354
00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:04,960
Speaker 3: So tell us.

355
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,119
Speaker 2: About this book and kind of how it came about

356
00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,720
Speaker 2: and who it's for and what you hope people come

357
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,240
Speaker 2: away with.

358
00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, my goodness. So I've always in the back of

359
00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,720
Speaker 1: my head thought it'd be cool to write a book,

360
00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,560
Speaker 1: but I didn't think I had the patience for it,

361
00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,760
Speaker 1: because it's one thing to write a song. It's short,

362
00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot shorter than a book. And I love to

363
00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,679
Speaker 1: write and I've always journaled, but I was like, to

364
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,000
Speaker 1: write a book, that's too much. So I just kind

365
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,160
Speaker 1: of wrote it off. But people within the year, which

366
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,199
Speaker 1: I just recently wrote it, so whenever that was the

367
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,959
Speaker 1: time frame right before I wrote it, God kept dropping

368
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,240
Speaker 1: people to say, hey, you should write a book, you

369
00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,760
Speaker 1: should write a book. And I just kept hearing it,

370
00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,200
Speaker 1: and I knew it was God because I know sometimes

371
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,879
Speaker 1: you have to watch it that too. You can't just say, oh,

372
00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,480
Speaker 1: this person said, God told them, you know that you

373
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,919
Speaker 1: need to do this. It was God confirming in me.

374
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,439
Speaker 1: It was really him tugging at my heart. I was

375
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 1: going through a difficult season of health crisis and two

376
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 1: miscarriages all at the same time, and I think that

377
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,119
Speaker 1: probably fueled the fire. It was a very cathartic experience

378
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 1: for me to write, and I just said, I'm going

379
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,359
Speaker 1: to just do this. And I thought. I thought, I

380
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 1: was like, well, if I do it as a devotional book,

381
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,000
Speaker 1: it won't be that's I can handle that. Well, it's

382
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,639
Speaker 1: ninety days and it ends up being three hundred pages now.

383
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 1: But it was It was so easy because I just

384
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 1: felt like I was letting God flow through me. I

385
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 1: actually wrote it on my phone. I wrote it on

386
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,680
Speaker 1: my phone on the notes section. I would sit there

387
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 1: and just type and type and type, and so I had.

388
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 1: After I wrote the whole thing, I had my husband.

389
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 1: I was like, make sure there's no errors in here.

390
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,119
Speaker 1: God bless him for doing that for me. And I

391
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 1: just felt like it was when he was just downloading

392
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 1: all of that into me. At the same time, I

393
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 1: was seeing people write on Facebook in different places is

394
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 1: life worth living? I don't feel I feel like giving up?

395
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 1: And I thought people are. So there were three things

396
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 1: that stuck out. I said, if I feel and I

397
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 1: know God, but I'm feeling lost, stuck, and discouraged. That's

398
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 1: what I'm feeling right now, Like I just feel so

399
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,199
Speaker 1: lost and I know Jesus, but how much more do

400
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 1: people who don't know him feel that way? And God said,

401
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you clarity, purpose and hope. So

402
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 1: that's kind of how it all came together. And there's

403
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 1: nine sections in there that are all different things that

404
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,199
Speaker 1: whether you're a Christian and you've been a Christian all

405
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: your life, I feel like it's a different take that

406
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, we've all had Christian books that they I

407
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,360
Speaker 1: don't say this, say they say the same thing because

408
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 1: I don't mean it like that, because we need to

409
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 1: be reminded of things. But I feel like God gave

410
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 1: me new concept for this season. And then if you're

411
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: not a Christian, I was worried that is it going

412
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: to you know, resonate with people. And there's so many

413
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: people who said, I'm really learning about God through this book.

414
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: So guys, girls, it's for everybody, That's what And I

415
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 1: hope you know that life is living in Christ when

416
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 1: you're done reading it. That's what I hope to get

417
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: out of it.

418
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a message that's so important.

419
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: And like you said, we know Jesus and we're still

420
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: faced with helplessness sometimes as Christians. And so can you

421
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 2: kind of take us back to that difficult time. I

422
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 2: love that we can be talking now and see God's

423
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 2: redemption and his kind of restoration through your pregnancy and congratulations.

424
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for you, but that doesn't take away

425
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: the loss and that was such a dark, difficult time

426
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: for you. Can you take us back to that time

427
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 2: and just kind of what was your prayer journey through

428
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 2: that time of difficulty. So you started off, you had

429
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 2: a faith before as a foundation, before you were going

430
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 2: into this difficult time. How did you process these things

431
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: as they were happening, and like, how did your prayer

432
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 2: life change as a result? For instance, did you were

433
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 2: you mad at God? Were there times you were tired

434
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: of praying over and over for seeing you know, and

435
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: being disappointed? Or did you get to a point where

436
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 2: you couldn't pray? What were the things happening at that point?

437
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: Oh so much? And I want to say this too.

438
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: I know that your listeners may have you know, there's

439
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: so many different tragedies and I look at someone else's

440
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: strategy and that's why we can't compare. It's what you're

441
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: going through. It matters, you know, because I'm not taking

442
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: away from someone. I'm sure there are people who have

443
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: way worse, you know, things that they go through, and

444
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: so I'm not saying like, oh, oh it is me,

445
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: look what I went through. But I knew God was

446
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: going to not waste the pain. I knew that same feeling,

447
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 1: that same place of being lost could be used. And

448
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: I've talked to people and they've said that the book

449
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: has to help them, and they've told me what they've

450
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: gone through, and I'm just like, oh, my goodness, I

451
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: can never go through that without God. Of course, so

452
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It knew he would not waste the pain.

453
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: But I will say, yeah, it got to be real.

454
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I have always had a really deep prayer life,

455
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: even when I was really really little, Like I just knew.

456
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 1: I knew I was a prayer warrior that I would

457
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: just really get in touch with the throne room of God.

458
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: And there were times in life that I would just

459
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: see miracles like I've been so fast, and then I

460
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: would see them happen a little slower some of them,

461
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: but I always saw his hand. And in this instance,

462
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: for the first time in my life, I started saying,

463
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: what is this. I guess this is a maturing of

464
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: my faith where I'm having to trust you when I

465
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: don't even see your hand in this. And so it

466
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: started off with the just bizarre health crisis thing that

467
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: was enough to make me like, God, Hello, are you there.

468
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: But then when the miscarriages happened, and then after the

469
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: second one and they did all his testing, and then

470
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: they came back and said, we have no answers for you.

471
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: After extensive testing there's just no reason we don't know.

472
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: And and so that was all more frustrating because it

473
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: was like, okay, you know, it was just being in

474
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 1: that place of just saying, God, why all of this

475
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: at once? Why not can you fix one of the problem.

476
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: And He did fix one of them, and I have

477
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: seen major steps towards oh my gosh, so much better

478
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: with my physical health situation. But I still am in

479
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: that place of saying, God, please completely he feel me.

480
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: But there was a time period where I went through this,

481
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm mad at you God. I don't feel like I'm

482
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna be praying as much as I should. And I

483
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: hate to admit that, but I have to be honest.

484
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: I didn't go through that. And it's not that I

485
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: stopped believing in God. It was just that it was

486
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: almost like I'm sticking my heels in until you do something.

487
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: Then I'll lean into you. Until I realized I can't

488
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: live like that for very long. None of us can.

489
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: Those times in life are the times we have to

490
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: dig in because it's our only choice. You can only

491
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: do that for so long until you say, okay, God,

492
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: I just you and just cry out to him. He

493
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: wants to hear you cry out to him, and in

494
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: that pain, he just lifts you to a place that

495
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: I can't really describe. It's a closeness with him. It's

496
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: so I think I developed a spiritual maturity in my

497
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: prayer life of like the even if even if you

498
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: don't do this, I still love you, I still praise you,

499
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: but I still believe you, even as long as it takes,

500
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: I still believe that you were have the best plan.

501
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: And I feel like that was a big thing because

502
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: at the other parts of my life I had seen

503
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: those miracles, and for this it was like, Okay, no

504
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: matter what, you are on the throne. So yeah, it

505
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: really as I was writing it was going through that

506
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: journey for sure.

507
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm so glad that you are honest, because

508
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I know I've been there, and it's it

509
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 2: is it feels kind of like hard to admit that.

510
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I've been a Christian for this long,

511
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 2: I shouldn't get to this place, but we do. And

512
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: so to give people permission to say, you know what,

513
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: we all get there, we all get to the place

514
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: of not being happy with God and maybe even feeling

515
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: like we're like Okay, I'm going to withhold a little

516
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: bit of relationship from you because I just can't right now.

517
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: And to realize that he can handle that. He loves

518
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 2: us and he knows, and I mean Jesus has walked

519
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: it all and he's walking it with us even as

520
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: we speak, and so of course God knows and he

521
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 2: can handle that. So thank you for that permission, you know,

522
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: and just to be able to say, I think it's

523
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: better to acknowledge that and to go to God with

524
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 2: that and say I can't pray as intimately and closely

525
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: because I'm kind of upset, like I don't understand and

526
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 2: there is there is pain here. I think it's better

527
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: to do that than to go through the motions and pretend. Yeah,

528
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: that creates distance, It creates you know, it gives the

529
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: enemy a foothold when you're not holding onto God with anger.

530
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: Instead you pull back. I mean, that leaves a void

531
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: for the enemy to just block you off and separate you.

532
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: So anyway, thank you for that honesty.

533
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I know we're going all over the place,

534
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get off topic from the book,

535
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: but I will say this. When I wrote the song

536
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: faith Can Move Mountains, That was one of the things

537
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: that God showed me is that I always was afraid

538
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: of that verse that says a double minded man is

539
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: unstabled in all his ways and doubt. And I always

540
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: was afraid of, Oh Lord, I doubt it, so you're

541
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: not going to come through like that was just a

542
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: thought that went through my head. And God spoke to

543
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: me and said, you know, look, you're human. You're He

544
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that when he says, yes, his word is solid,

545
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: we have to go buy his word. But you're human.

546
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: You're going to have those moments of temptation of doubt.

547
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: But God doesn't doesn't punish you for that. He honors

548
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: you for your faith, and that faith being the mustard seed.

549
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: That's what you need. So that too, as you said

550
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: it being real, being real with God telling him your

551
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: emotions and say I am struggling because he wants you

552
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: and he loves you, and he wants that realness and

553
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: he's not going to punish you for that. I think

554
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: we have that in our minds sometimes of having to

555
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: kind of keep that you know from him, and it's

556
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: instead you need to just pour it out his feet.

557
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: That is so good, so he does not punish you

558
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: for your doubt, he rewards you for your faith. I

559
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: almost wonder. I mean, it takes a mustard seed of faith.

560
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's all we have. But it takes a mustard

561
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: seed of faith to go to God and say, I'm

562
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: angry with you, but I believe in you. I believe

563
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: you're there you know, or or if you're in a place.

564
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: I can imagine there's someone listening who's been in a

565
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: place where they've wondered, is God even real?

566
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: Like I can't hear.

567
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: Him, But to even go to him and say, I

568
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: don't know if you're real, but if you are, speak

569
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: to me, that's something like. That is a kernel. It

570
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: hasn't bloomed, it hasn't been watered. It's it's hard and dry,

571
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: but it's something. So I just feel like any movement

572
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: toward God is that mustard seed. But the implication of

573
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: that seed is that it has potential and that when

574
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: God takes it that he can just like make it

575
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: grow into a gigantic tree. I don't I don't know

576
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: how mustard plants grow.

577
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: Is it a tree?

578
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was wondering. I know, I'm I'm

579
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: mustard plants.

580
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it'll grow.

581
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever it does, all we know is it's what

582
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: is it? It's like smaller than your fingernail or something.

583
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I mean, I don't know. I've used it

584
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: in salad dressing.

585
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that's a good idea, But I think

586
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: that's you know, it's just amazing to think of how

587
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: how small that that faith is. It's like that we

588
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: have that. It's like, okay, I can do that, you know. Yeah.

589
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: It takes faith to come to Him, even imperfectly.

590
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: So yes, I love that.

591
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: So I really love this. From this excerpt in your book,

592
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: from day three, it says, sometimes it seems the clock

593
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: has run out, so we lose hope and turn the

594
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: page to a more attainable reality. But God is the

595
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: lord of the eleventh hour. I think that is so good.

596
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: And you relate it to the story that came to

597
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: my mind at first was like Abram and Sarah when

598
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: they didn't trust in God's promise and they involved Hagar

599
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: in providing the air of you know, God's you know,

600
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: the promised child, which obviously did not work out well.

601
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: But you relate it to this lesser known story, and

602
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: I would love for you to tell us about this,

603
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: because I was like, I don't know if I I

604
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: mean it rang a bell maybe, but I don't even

605
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: know if I've heard this story. So this is in

606
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: Second Kings about the Shinnamite woman and her promised son.

607
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: So remind us of that story and can you relate

608
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: it to that that kind of commentary on on waiting

609
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: on the Lord?

610
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely? So the interesting part is she too. I assumed

611
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 1: she was old. It said her husband was old. It

612
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: only mentioned her husband was old. But I assume we're

613
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: supposed to believe that she was an older woman as well.

614
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: And they welcomed Elisha, the prophet Elishah. I always get

615
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: them confused Elijah. So anyway, and they had it said

616
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: that they were wealthy. It actually made the point to

617
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: say that they were wealthy, and they had a place

618
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: in their home for him, and he said to them,

619
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: what can I do for you? Because you have done

620
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: this for a man of God. And I think it's

621
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: interesting because it's just right there there's I mean, the

622
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: whole story has so much to impact. They didn't have

623
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: a deficit in their finances, They had all this going on,

624
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: yet they lacked something they could not do anything about

625
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: they needed they and those times, of course to have

626
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: a son, and heir specifically a son was important. So

627
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: they did not have a son. They did not see

628
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: how that was even post and he said that God

629
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: will do this for you. By this time next year,

630
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: you will hold your son in your arms. And she said, don't.

631
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing here, but she was like, don't toy with me, Like,

632
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: don't don't do that to me. Don't do that to

633
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: my emotions. And how many of us, you know, when

634
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: someone has said something or briefed life's into us, we

635
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: were like, don't go there, because I've already written that off.

636
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to be disappointed. But then you're like, okay,

637
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: but I have to believe in order for it to happen.

638
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: So anyway, the son is born, which is a miracle.

639
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: But then what happens is one day, when he's a

640
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: young boy, he says his head hurts and he dies,

641
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: and it says he dies, and it's important that he

642
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: says he dies, and he doesn't say he was in

643
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: a coma, he went asleep. He said he dies. That's

644
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: what it says in the Bible. So but instead of

645
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: just what she does with that information is amazing. I

646
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: think to myself, God Lord helped me to be like

647
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: this woman. She puts the sun in the room where

648
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: Elijah what's gonna stay, shuts the door, gets on a donkey,

649
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: and goes towards Elijah. She doesn't waste a moment. Her

650
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: husband said, Hey, what's going on? She says, all is well.

651
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: She keeps going on the road. People come up to her,

652
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: how is your son? They say, She doesn't say an

653
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: all is well. She keeps saying that, And I always

654
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: think about saying that when things are looking like they're

655
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: falling apart. But you know, God is on the throne

656
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: and you've got to get to God. You don't waste

657
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: time with the negativity and the nonsense and the voices.

658
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: You just say, all is well, and you keep going

659
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: towards God. She gets to Elisha. Long story short, She

660
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: gets to Elisha and then then she breaks down and

661
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: tells him what's happening. Hey, you said that you would

662
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: give God would give me the son. I mean, you know,

663
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: she's got to be thinking God, and sometimes we feel

664
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: this way. Right, Let's be real, God, are you cruel

665
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: like you promise me a son? You give me this

666
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: miracle and then you just immediately take it away like this,

667
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: like what does that makes any sense to you? You know,

668
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense to me. So Elishah goes

669
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 1: to the house, gets on top of the boy, breathes life,

670
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: prays over the boy. He sneak The boy sneezes seven

671
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: times and wakes up. He is raised him in the dead.

672
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: And I just think of like we have things in

673
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: our life, dreams that we write off because they look dead.

674
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this dream was this boy was dead and

675
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: God raised it to life. And if he can do that,

676
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: what can he do for you and I in our lives?

677
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: And it always has to I think it's interesting. It's

678
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: almost like God wants to remind you that he's in

679
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: control of the miracle because it's like this same miracle

680
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: with this boy. And so if God's done something for you,

681
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: don't second guess it. If he's done a miracle in

682
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: some area and you think that something's falling apart, keep

683
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: believing him because if he did it, then he's going

684
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: to do it again. And you have to just know

685
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: that it may look like the end of your timeline,

686
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: but his timeline is not our own and so you know,

687
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot to unpacked. There are a lot of things.

688
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: But that's the story of that, which is just it's

689
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: a remarkable all is well, All is well? You know

690
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: that's great.

691
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: That reminds me of Horatio Spafford and it is well

692
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: with my soul when he's like basically traveling the same

693
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: route where and they get to the place where I think,

694
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: wasn't it was it his children and his wife or

695
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: was it just his several children or something had died

696
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: in a storm, But he just says it is well.

697
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 2: And it's almost like I don't want to say fake

698
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: it till you make it, because that's not what we're

699
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: advocating for. But speak it before you've internalized it. Speak

700
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: truth of what is before your emotions and your spirit

701
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: and caught up with what is true.

702
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: And it does make a difference. I'm sure that is

703
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: so good. When you were writing that, you were in the.

704
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: Midst of a parallel loss and situation of God, you

705
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: gave me this gift. I thought, I was, you know,

706
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: had a future with this child and these two children,

707
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: And how did you process that?

708
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: Well, it's really interesting because I we when we had

709
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: the first miscarriage. I mean that just for any woman

710
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: who's gone through that, it rocked my world as far

711
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: as just thinking so emotionally. I just it was such

712
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: a place of pain that I can't describe. And I

713
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: know for the women who've gone through that, just this

714
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: it just a place of loss that I can't describe

715
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: it because it was a child you love that you

716
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: never got to hold the intangible, you know, it's different

717
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: the way to mourn something like that. It was just

718
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: there's so many layers to it. And then I was

719
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: already kind of feeling that way. Then we go through

720
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: immediately the second one, and that's when I was just like, Okay,

721
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: so this whole thing about having children, this dream is

722
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: kind of I just don't know what's going to change,

723
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: especially after the testing and all of that. And God

724
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: bless my husband, he was like, no, God has it

725
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: for us. I think it is. It is more. It's

726
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: difficult for both the man and the woman, but for

727
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: the women too. You know, it's just a different it's

728
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: just a different kind of pain feeling. But I was

729
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: not ready to give up, and I wrote that book

730
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: and I just sort of like, Okay, I know God

731
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: that you have a plan, and I looked at it

732
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: adoption because I know people who have adopted, and that's

733
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: if God had wanted that for my life, that it's

734
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, I was open to that, but I really

735
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: felt like it didn't want me to give up on

736
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: this dream in my heart of hearts. So anyway, the

737
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: book came out after having those two miscarriages, and I

738
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: found out I was pregnant at one of the book launches.

739
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: Well not at the book launch, but I found out

740
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: right around that time. So with the other to miscarriage

741
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: is we never even went to the doctor's appointment, like,

742
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: we didn't even get that far with this one. I

743
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: was so excited because we've gotten to the first doctor's appointment.

744
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: See on the sonogram, and I'm thinking everything's fine, and

745
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: the doctor comes in with this little girl and said,

746
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, this is not looking good. That's what she

747
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: said to me, which was not good bedside manner. But anyway,

748
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: I said, what do you what do you mean? She said,

749
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: if this was a six week embryo, it's fine, but

750
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: it's an eight week embryo. And within the next couple

751
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: of days, I think, you know, I said, is there

752
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: any chance so you talk about thinking that something is

753
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: like debt and your emotions going from here to there.

754
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: I had.

755
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: She said, come back next week and we'll see if

756
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: it's progressed. We'll let you know if it hasn't. Whatever.

757
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: So that whole entire week I went from a place

758
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: of I didn't want to be disappointed. So I started saying, Okay,

759
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: it's over. I'm just whatever. And then God was like,

760
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: why there are you just writing this? And I said,

761
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: because I don't want to be disappointed. I don't want

762
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: to be in that place. And something just shifted in

763
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: me and I just started putting worship music on and

764
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: just believing. And when we went into the obichi Waian,

765
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: right before we went in, we blasted praise music. We

766
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: blasted the song Miracle carried Job's version of miracle. And

767
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: I believe in you, A believer, you the God of miracles.

768
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: I was like a belief I believe. And we went

769
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: into that doctor and they said, everything looks perfect. It's nice,

770
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: they told it, and I said, oh my gosh. I said,

771
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: Jesus did that. And the one lady's like, well, it

772
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: was probably a miscalculation. I said, no, Jesus did that,

773
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: and I was just so excited. So anyway, we're twenty

774
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: five weeks into this. Every time we go back, I

775
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: think of that. I cannot stop thinking about what God

776
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: did for us, because I thought this was over and

777
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: it's just been a huge testimony every step of the way.

778
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: Everything looks good on all of the ultrasounds and everything.

779
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: I said. We twenty five now, and I praise God

780
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: because it was just like wow, Lord, So I'm just

781
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: so grateful. I got off in a tangent, but I

782
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: was she was just incredible what God did.

783
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you for sharing that.

784
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: That is so that's so powerful and just I just

785
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: love how God met you and kind of prompted you

786
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 2: to have hope and to praise and to give him glory.

787
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: And I love that you told him, yeah, Jesus did it.

788
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: I love that I.

789
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: Was going in all office, even people who didn't know

790
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: what happened. I was like, Jesus did a miracle. So

791
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: that's fantastic.

792
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so I'm so happy for you.

793
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much.

794
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: Well, we are.

795
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: I want to talk more about your music and your process.

796
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad, but so we're I want to

797
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: have you back. So we can talk more about your

798
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: music and your process, but you have When did your

799
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: album Faith Can Move Mountains come out? How recently that

800
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: it came out twenty twenty four, Okay, so it's been

801
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 2: a little while now, it's been out for a while.

802
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: I love your music because it is so prayer and

803
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: worship and just like, I don't know, I just I

804
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: love it. I listened to to some of your album

805
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: and I love it. I feel like it's very worshipful.

806
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: And what made you choose that title? You kind of

807
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: went into that before about is that you know about

808
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: the moving mountains? And but like what kind of made

809
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: you choose that title?

810
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: And absolutely well before I forget I actually also because

811
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: we were talking about the miscarriages, I did write a

812
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: song that has blessed a lot of women who were grieving,

813
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: called through that called to my unborn baby, I'll never

814
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: forget you, And I think it helps a lot of women,

815
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: even if they've had miscarriages like years ago, to process

816
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: maybe they never processed it or allowed themselves to process it,

817
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: and it's helped a lot of women. So I do

818
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: want to mention that because I always forget to mention that.

819
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: But that song came out after that. But faith can

820
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: move mountains. Yeah, I was in that place of saying, God,

821
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm it was in the start of the health challenge

822
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: that I was going through. That's in the start of

823
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: all of that, and I was having just a conversation

824
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: with God and as I mentioned before, saying God, I'm doubting,

825
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: and he said, no, I'm going to honor your faith.

826
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: And I thought of that verse and I think it's

827
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: Matthew seventeen twenty. I hope I'm paintering about if you

828
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: look at the mustard seed, if you have that much faith,

829
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: you can move the mountain. And it just I don't know,

830
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: you hear things your whole life, and then you think

831
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: one day that's really incredible, like you, is that really true.

832
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean it is because it's God's truth. But it's

833
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: just incredible to think, well, if that can move the mountain,

834
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: and you think of all the mountains in your life,

835
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: because there's so many things that sometimes you just need

836
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: that breakthrough and you're just like, where is that breakthrough?

837
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: And sometimes the greatest breakthrough is the spiritual, the belief

838
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: barrier and all of those things. And so every word

839
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: of that I think came from a place of just

840
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: my my trust back to God. Of like, I believe

841
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: you're going to move this mountain and every mountain from

842
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: here and whatever that looks like, and even when things

843
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: don't look the circumstances, I believe you're going to help

844
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: me to rise above the mountain. So in whatever capacity

845
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: God answers that prayer and however long it takes, that

846
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: you can live in that space. And that's kind of

847
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: like the same with the book too, like because we're

848
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: going to have things in life that happen, and you know,

849
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: nothing's going to be perfect because we live in a

850
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: fallen world, but getting to that spot with God. And

851
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: so that song faith gab of Mountains is the title

852
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: of the album and the title song that I wrote.

853
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: And then the other songs and there are great one

854
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: of some of my favorite worship songs as well on there.

855
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: I saw that. So there's some of yours and then

856
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: some of.

857
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: My favorite worship songs.

858
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: So I missed your I missed your single to My

859
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: Unborn Baby. I'll never forget you. So if people want

860
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: to know that, that's not part of that album, so

861
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 2: make sure to search for Kristin Records and it'll pop

862
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: up as one of the songs. I can't wait to

863
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: hear that one. That's beautiful.

864
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: I hear that and that would make it does make

865
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: me cry when I listen to it. So just preparing

866
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: people in a good way. I think it's a good

867
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: healing for a lot of people. So yeah, that's that's

868
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: one of my favorites too.

869
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: Well, we will link to that as well.

870
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: Well.

871
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: Where can our listeners.

872
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: Find your music, your radio show, your book, find you

873
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: passed episodes on Nickelodeon. No, We'll start looking for all

874
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: the things, but no, where can our listeners connect with

875
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: you online and on social media.

876
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: That's great about being a kid actor in that era.

877
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: There's not like you know, some of the YouTube stuff

878
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: that was not like a thing back then.

879
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: That's right.

880
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: It's harder to find, but it's a I think the

881
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: best place to go, because of course you could go

882
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: to iTunes, you could go to Amazon a that, but

883
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: the best places go. It's my webs site that my

884
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: husband actually did for me, God bless him in his

885
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: spare time, kristinickords dot com. And I'm sure you can

886
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: either type it or so they can see the spelling

887
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: or whatever.

888
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: We'll link to it.

889
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get the music on there everything, you know,

890
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: YouTube videos, all that stuff on there.

891
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 3: Great.

892
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: All right, well, how can we close in prayer for

893
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 2: you today, Kristin?

894
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. I love by the way

895
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: your program and you're focused on prayer. I think that's

896
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: not emphasized enough. So that's when I pray to God

897
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: continues to bless your ministry and I really appreciate that.

898
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: Pray for safe delivery and everything. Of course with the

899
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: baby girl to be just perfectly healthy, and can pray

900
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: for complete healing health for me. And then thirdly, just

901
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: pray that everything I do that God would continue to

902
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: bring people to him through all the projects. Just bring many,

903
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: many people into His kingdom.

904
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: Okay, absolutely we will do that. Kristin.

905
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: Thank you for your time and just for just for

906
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: the courage to use your pain to bring hope to people.

907
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: That's not easy, and I'm just so thankful that God

908
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: has been able to show you kind of like the redemption,

909
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: the gift, and you know, just pray, pray that God

910
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 2: will use it to reach countless people.

911
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: Amen. Amen, I receive that and I believe it. So

912
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: thank you so much. And same for your wonderful ministry too.

913
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: Thank you all.

914
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: Ri Let's pray God, I just thank you so much

915
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: for Kristin. Thank you for not wasting any of our pain,

916
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: and I thank you for giving her the vision and

917
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: the wisdom to know even in the midst of that

918
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: dark time, that you were with her and that you

919
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: were at work. And I just pray that for the

920
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: person listening who is just so paralyzed in their pain

921
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: that they just don't even know where to turn, that

922
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: they don't have the energy to even reach out to you,

923
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: we just pray that you would surround her with your love,

924
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: with your presence, that you would place people in her

925
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: life to point her to you to pray over her

926
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: when she doesn't have the words to pray herself, and

927
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: that you would just plant that mustard seed of faith

928
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: in her heart, that you would supply her with that

929
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 2: and increase her faith and sustain her until the time

930
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 2: in which she can actually see you and breathe again.

931
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: Or to just pray that you would be blessing Kristen's work,

932
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: just all of the different hats she wears, all of

933
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: the ways that you've allowed her to just express herself

934
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: creatively in ways that bring glory to you. We just

935
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: pray that all of those things would be like a

936
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: magnet that would just draw in people, whether they're Christians

937
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: that need encouragement or unbelievers that need hope, that need

938
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: a lifeline. That salvations would happen because of her work

939
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: and ministry, that just resurrected faith would happen in people

940
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: who've lost time hope, and just that strengthening and encouraging

941
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 2: believers would happen.

942
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: And we pray that you would.

943
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 2: Just smash all roadblocks to getting her words and her

944
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: heart and her work out to people who desperately need it.

945
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: And we just pray your blessing over Kristin and her

946
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: husband and her baby. We pray that you would just

947
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: continue to allow her to grow and to develop and

948
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: be healthy, and that at a very young age, that

949
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: you would allow her to come to a saving faith

950
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: in Jesus, and that she would just be surrounded by

951
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: the love of Christ. That she would be just a

952
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 2: warrior for your kingdom, and that you would just be

953
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: blessing Christin as she gets ready for her delivery, and

954
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: that it would be safe and that it would be

955
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: quick and easy and pay us and God that you

956
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 2: would just shower blessings on her. We pray for complete

957
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: and total healing for Kristen in Jesus Name, and we

958
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 2: believe it and we stand in faith for that answered

959
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: prayer in Jesus Name.

960
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 3: Amen.

961
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: Amen.

962
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 3: We'd like to take.

963
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: Just a quick second to thank the team at Life

964
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 2: Audio for their partnership with us on the podcast. If

965
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: you go to lifeaudio dot com, you will find dozens

966
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 2: of other faith centered podcasts in their network.

967
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 3: They've got shows about.

968
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: Prayer, Bible study, parenting, and so much more. That's lifeaudio

969
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: dot com.