WEBVTT - Addressing Your Recent Concerns Regarding Our Controversial Parenting (Big Changes Coming)

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<v Speaker 2>Well, welcome to our new podcast set up here. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a little rough, there's gonna be a lot of figuring out,

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<v Speaker 2>but welcome to lofty goals and lofty expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, you took my joke from yesterday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>how are you just going to steal someone as a joke?

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<v Speaker 2>So we're doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been sitting on that for a day.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing the podcast now here in the loft in

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<v Speaker 2>our home, which I know so many of you watched

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<v Speaker 2>Melissa and I build going back nearly four years ago now,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess, yeah, four plus years ago. We

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<v Speaker 2>worked on this house, got it built. In that time,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a lot of people making suggestions for how

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<v Speaker 2>it is that we can use this loft space, and

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, it really hasn't been used

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<v Speaker 2>all that much whatsoever. So for us to now be

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<v Speaker 2>up here because our old podcast studio has been ripped apart.

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<v Speaker 2>We moved everything in here and we're in the loft.

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<v Speaker 2>Well see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're overlooking the entire house. We can watch Amazon deliveries.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike is actually sleeping in the room next to us,

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<v Speaker 3>so if you hear a baby, just start crying. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is so strange being in our home recording the podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>So welcome inside.

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<v Speaker 2>We're very nervous about this, if you can't tell, just

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<v Speaker 2>it being in a new space. We're very uncomfortable. But

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<v Speaker 2>check out this really cool center shot that we have

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<v Speaker 2>set up. I think this is the best edition, new edition.

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<v Speaker 2>We always had a center shop. But Daryl's now missing.

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<v Speaker 2>No Daryl, no bigfoot light, and like I said, we're

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<v Speaker 2>a little uneasy. This is all just very new.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure sad about the curtains.

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<v Speaker 2>And the curtains are gone. I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be happy about that, but no, a new

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<v Speaker 2>fresh start for us. You can have to boat like like,

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<v Speaker 2>just give us a little space because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of figuring out with being in a new space. I

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<v Speaker 2>already know we have some lighting issues obviously, where we're

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<v Speaker 2>in front of these big windows. Yep, it is really

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<v Speaker 2>really warm up here because we're getting the afternoon sunlight.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, just incredibly warm up here.

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<v Speaker 2>Bear with us, show us some grace and hopefully this

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<v Speaker 2>works out. This is going to be temporary for us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>once we get the new space built out and.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to bring in some plants and some color

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<v Speaker 3>and things like that. I mean, this is literally week one.

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<v Speaker 3>We got up here and we went, wow, it's really

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<v Speaker 3>brown up here. So we're going to try to bring

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<v Speaker 3>in some color. This is temporary. We are building out

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<v Speaker 3>a new podcast space, but for now this will house

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<v Speaker 3>us in our house with our lofty dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we start sweating profusely again, it's really really.

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<v Speaker 3>Warm one hundred and four up here.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have this still little planet that Melissa set

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<v Speaker 2>up at the back of the table to go along with.

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<v Speaker 3>Her Yam yam, our only piece of decor.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have this tiny plant right here because we

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<v Speaker 2>have a grape that's set up as the air return

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<v Speaker 2>for our HVAC system. Again, a lot of figuring out that.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to do to make it it's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to stay. I got some new plants coming. They'll be

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<v Speaker 3>here on Wednesday, So next week plants guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's been a couple of weeks since we've recorded

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast. This is a new space and location for

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<v Speaker 2>us and doing so and so because of that, let's

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<v Speaker 2>see how we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm excited to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>On today's episode of the podcast. We're gonna be discussing

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<v Speaker 2>the friendship recession. Is this the term that you've heard before?

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<v Speaker 3>I have never heard it. You brought it up today,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's new to me.

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<v Speaker 2>With hearing this brand new term. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe is something that applies to us.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I feel like we're in kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>friendship drought at this point, Like it's beyond depression friendship depression.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you depressed about it?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not personally depressed about it, but I would say

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<v Speaker 3>the length of time that it's gone on.

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<v Speaker 2>Friendship drought.

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<v Speaker 3>Drought.

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<v Speaker 2>I like drought that sounds less sad. So we have

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<v Speaker 2>a video that go along with that. We will be

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<v Speaker 2>playing that for you guys and discussing because apparently this

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<v Speaker 2>is a new thing that has really taken off and

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<v Speaker 2>flourished with our generation in particular, ever since COVID struck.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, yeah, our generation and probably the generation

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<v Speaker 3>after us, and I mean maybe even maybe even the boomers.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of people are just more prone

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<v Speaker 3>to stay home and a little bit more comfortable with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, even like you were bringing up even church.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like how many people watch online church instead

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<v Speaker 3>of attending church. And that wasn't an option before you

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<v Speaker 3>had to get up and go to church, but now

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<v Speaker 3>you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now you can watch it on We will be

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<v Speaker 2>discussing all of that, but before we jump into today's conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>Molsa has a Tiny Human book plug.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to plug right now. Okay, so you guys

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<v Speaker 3>know I've been working on Tiny Human and so this

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<v Speaker 3>is the actual size and hardcover of the book. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have books in hand next week. And so

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<v Speaker 3>this is what our little gift set looks like. It

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<v Speaker 3>is Yam Yam. He has spaghetti sauce all over his

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<v Speaker 3>neck because Michael loves him so much. He's completely taking

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<v Speaker 3>an over them and he's filthy at this point. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is what he's going to look like after a

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<v Speaker 3>week of being loved at your house anyway, So this

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<v Speaker 3>is Yamyam. This is the book. This is what the

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<v Speaker 3>gift set looks like they are forty dollars and they

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<v Speaker 3>make a perfect gift. I know it's crazy to think

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<v Speaker 3>about Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>All righty it falls off the back of the table.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, she'll die. So Yam Yam is going

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<v Speaker 3>to sell out. I just heard that half of them

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<v Speaker 3>are already sold and we're not getting any more. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you think you're going to want the whole set,

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<v Speaker 3>please please please get your orders in because it's just

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be like Ludo, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>get any more of them. Also, you can send a

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<v Speaker 3>Yamam and the book to a mother who chooses life.

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<v Speaker 3>These are going to be held in the mobile units

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<v Speaker 3>for Save the Storks. And then as soon as they

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<v Speaker 3>go around and they will park outside of places where

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<v Speaker 3>women will go looking for options and maybe not having options,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they give free pregnancy tests and they give

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<v Speaker 3>free altersounds, and then as soon as a woman hears

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<v Speaker 3>their baby's heartbeat or they see either baby for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time, or they just get a positive pregnancy test,

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<v Speaker 3>they will be gifted one of the donation yams. And

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<v Speaker 3>but we name him Yam because that's what Patka calls him.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why that became his name, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>for forty dollars, you can save a life because it

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<v Speaker 3>will be the first gift that they are ever given.

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<v Speaker 3>So we think that would be really a special thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And also we are now we were donating fifty percent

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<v Speaker 3>of all royalties, and now in Eva and I have

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<v Speaker 3>decided to donate one hundred percent of all royalties. So

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<v Speaker 3>every single dollar that we make off this book is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be donated towards making motherhood possible. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be buying diapers and wipes and donating them to

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<v Speaker 3>options clinics to give out to women that are struggling.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there you go. What's the website.

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<v Speaker 3>It is tiny humanbook dot com. So go to tiny

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<v Speaker 3>human book dot com. He's an't going to ship till October. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>get your orders in. They're going to sell out big things.

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<v Speaker 2>So all the author that have gotten your orders in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to point this out reluctantly. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel the light that's like beaming across your face right now?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel heat again? I feel so much heat.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the challenges you might notice. We also have

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<v Speaker 2>these massive snow cone I don't know what they're called

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<v Speaker 2>but these mic cover things they.

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<v Speaker 3>Look like giant ice cream costs was.

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<v Speaker 2>A massive upgrade, I want to say, because we're dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with sound issues grad I'm becoming very insecure. I put

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast together, so I'm looking at like the lighting

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<v Speaker 2>across your face right now, the fact that we're both roasting,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the fact that the sound might be a

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<v Speaker 2>little wishy washy.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to get this, get this scardaway.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes time to really get everything dialed in, and

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<v Speaker 2>it did in the last space. It's just a process

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<v Speaker 2>you'll get here. It's a process of refinement. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>please bear with us. We're going to do our best

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<v Speaker 2>to make this the best show possible that we possibly can.

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<v Speaker 3>We're making a lot of changes in our lives right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I have switched to a tea ball instead

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<v Speaker 3>of a key bag. It's so that you don't put

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<v Speaker 3>tea bags in because you know, like I'm on this

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<v Speaker 3>health journey and I just found out that they so

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<v Speaker 3>the paper in a tea bag doesn't break down into

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<v Speaker 3>your tea. They spray the tea bag paper with plastic.

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<v Speaker 3>So every time that you're using a tea bag, you're

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<v Speaker 3>ingesting microplastics, and you know how I feel about microplastics.

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<v Speaker 3>I got rid of all the plastics in our home,

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<v Speaker 3>so now I'm using this and literally my camamel flowers

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<v Speaker 3>are floating at the top. So if I have flowers

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<v Speaker 3>all in my teeth through this podcast, you'll know why

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<v Speaker 3>we've got.

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<v Speaker 2>Light beams across your face.

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<v Speaker 3>Get a bunch of stuff in my and your teeth,

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<v Speaker 3>it's flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>We're working progress, guys. Thank you for being here once

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<v Speaker 2>again with the new the Old Soul podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to chew it.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you feeling? We wanted to address just some

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<v Speaker 2>of the criticisms with us moving this entire podcast here

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<v Speaker 2>into our home and abandoning the tiny home location that

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<v Speaker 2>we got. We got, uh, I mean somewhat expected, but

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<v Speaker 2>we got a number of critical comments, which is okay,

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<v Speaker 2>It's fine. People are allowed to feel however it is

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<v Speaker 2>that they want to feel. Do you want to address

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<v Speaker 2>some of the criticisms though, before we jump into the

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<v Speaker 2>meat and potatoes of this Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, so we kind of knew it was coming,

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<v Speaker 3>because anytime that you build something online and people feel

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<v Speaker 3>any kind of attachment to it, understand or they feel

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<v Speaker 3>like this was a perfectly good space, and then why

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<v Speaker 3>would you just gut it, throw it out like it's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing because you want something better.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was not it was okay, it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>It was rough. It had vinyl flooring on the walls,

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<v Speaker 3>and again like vinyls not that.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't have proper plumbing, which is why we couldn't combing.

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<v Speaker 3>And it had a major It had black mold on

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<v Speaker 3>the walls in the kid's room, on the surface on

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<v Speaker 3>the surface of the walls, and we had a major

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<v Speaker 3>rodent issue going on behind the walls, so those walls

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<v Speaker 3>needed to be ripped out, and all of that insulation

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<v Speaker 3>had become nesting material for mice. So when we took

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<v Speaker 3>the OSB off, something that wasn't in the videos is

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<v Speaker 3>we had two massive nests in the ceiling channels that

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<v Speaker 3>fell onto our help just I mean sorry, like a

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<v Speaker 3>million mouse poop pebbles went everywhere, I mean scattered across

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<v Speaker 3>the floor after hitting somebody in the head, and then

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<v Speaker 3>behind the walls like that, you could literally see a

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<v Speaker 3>trail of where they had gone, and there is currently

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<v Speaker 3>a dead mouse stuck jerkied in. Like I mean, we

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<v Speaker 3>had a major rodent issue.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those major But yeah, we had some rodent

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<v Speaker 2>issues and we just really slapped that place together for

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<v Speaker 2>as cheaply as we possibly could, which is why there

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<v Speaker 2>was improper plumbing and some electrical issues that were a

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<v Speaker 2>little shot fortunately.

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<v Speaker 3>Held around where mice could get in. We've now learned

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<v Speaker 3>so much from that belt.

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<v Speaker 2>Fortunately everything held up really well in the two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half years that we were living there. So could

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<v Speaker 2>KINMANI have moved in there, Yeah, you could have, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's less than ideal. Yeah, and so we're doing this properly.

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<v Speaker 2>We're adding some space to it. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>was a big part of the criticism of like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this was six inch and square feet that you know

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<v Speaker 2>was enough for the six of you, the six of

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<v Speaker 2>us when we first moved here. If just your son

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<v Speaker 2>is moving in there, why is that you're expanding and

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<v Speaker 2>making the space so much larger, right?

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<v Speaker 3>And Okay, So one I didn't consider it to be

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<v Speaker 3>a very healthy environment after we moved out. I think

0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.040
<v Speaker 3>when we were living in it it was different because

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<v Speaker 3>there was activity and stuff. I mean, we still had

0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.440
<v Speaker 3>some mice then too, and I think a squirrel. But

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<v Speaker 3>remember there was like the one bigger Okay. Anyway, so

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't consider that to be a healthy error environment

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere where I would want my children living with mold

0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.679
<v Speaker 3>and rodents behind the wall, and like you literally had

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<v Speaker 3>to pull the walls out in order to clean it

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<v Speaker 3>properly and bleach it so that and then also, this

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<v Speaker 3>is not a space for just Kaimani for now. This

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<v Speaker 3>is not just a launching pad. We figured since we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing it, we're putting plumbing in and we're ripping walls

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<v Speaker 3>out and bleaching and doing all that, we may as

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<v Speaker 3>well expand it and make it a more livable living

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<v Speaker 3>space for the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Yeah, I think that's where a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>misunderstanding came from. So we are building this so that

0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Kamani has an option once he turns eighteen to gain

0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.400
<v Speaker 2>a little more independence. But really what we're building this

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<v Speaker 2>space for is just kind of a secondary, more suitable,

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<v Speaker 2>more adequate home in case in case. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>fully anticipating that one of the kids at some point

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<v Speaker 2>is going to get married, possibly have kids, and if

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<v Speaker 2>the economic climate still is then what it is now

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<v Speaker 2>to where it's really difficult for a young person to

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<v Speaker 2>go out and just purchase a home like we were

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<v Speaker 2>fortunately able to at the age of twenty three. This

0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.360
<v Speaker 2>gives them another fallback to where they can be married

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<v Speaker 2>with one or two kids and live in this space

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<v Speaker 2>very comfortably. And so from the onset when we first

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<v Speaker 2>moved here, we told a lot of you guys that hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is our plan that ideally things would work out

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<v Speaker 2>to where we had, you know, the necessary resources to

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<v Speaker 2>make this dream of having family here on this plot

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<v Speaker 2>of land just just nearby, safe accounted for, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's something that it was our dream to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to provide this option for our kids so that they

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<v Speaker 2>could take chances and know that they had a safety

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<v Speaker 2>that in place should things not work out favorably. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's really the reason and our motivation for demolishing the

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<v Speaker 2>existing tiny home, which has been very a very very

0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.120
<v Speaker 2>difficult process. So just put it that way. I was

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<v Speaker 2>getting like legitimately sad in the process of turning this

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<v Speaker 2>space apart, and I think maybe that came across in

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<v Speaker 2>the video, But we just wanted to address some of

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<v Speaker 2>these questions and concerns and criticisms of so many you

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<v Speaker 2>had out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I think that things have kind of changed,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's not a new concept to build homes for

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<v Speaker 3>your children. And so for us personally, our two oldest

0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.360
<v Speaker 3>are not choosing to go to university, and so because

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<v Speaker 3>they're not going to university, we will instead take the

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<v Speaker 3>money that we would spend to send them to school

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<v Speaker 3>and help them with their first houses because we don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to see our children struggling and starting out in debt.

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<v Speaker 3>If we can help them to get started and not

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<v Speaker 3>have to take on these big mortgages that they can't

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<v Speaker 3>afford and just start out their lives in crippling debt

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<v Speaker 3>and stress and everything that comes with that. They can

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<v Speaker 3>instead take the money that they would do for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>apply to trying to buy a home and paying off

0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.480
<v Speaker 3>high interest rates at a bank, and they can maybe

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<v Speaker 3>start a business with that or do something else not

0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.679
<v Speaker 3>have car payments. And so for us, it's just something

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<v Speaker 3>that we can do for our children. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>view it as being any different than paying for school

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<v Speaker 3>for your kids. You're helping your kids launch, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 3>so I mean, I think a lot of the criticism is, no,

0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.520
<v Speaker 3>you're actually keeping them at your place by providing housing

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<v Speaker 3>for them. Case It's like, no, these are places that

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<v Speaker 3>they can have They're free to live here, but they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to live here separately.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I address just the comments of like it's excessive,

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<v Speaker 2>like things are becoming excessive? Again, I understand the perception,

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<v Speaker 2>but we put our all into what it is that

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<v Speaker 2>we do, and we do everything for our family and

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<v Speaker 2>specifically for our kids. And so, yeah, this did serve

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<v Speaker 2>as an opportunity for us to pursue this really lifelong

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<v Speaker 2>dream that Melissa and I have collectively had together of

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<v Speaker 2>being able to just you know, get our kids started

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<v Speaker 2>off on the right foot, I suppose, And so I

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<v Speaker 2>understand the perception, but we've made a lot of shocrifices

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<v Speaker 2>and worked very hard in order to enable ourselves to

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<v Speaker 2>have this opportunity. And so that's been our lifelong pursuit.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been very single minded in our focus, and so

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<v Speaker 2>this is what we're doing. If folks don't like it,

0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.760
<v Speaker 2>completely understand. Yeah, but we're excited for the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And like I said, it's not a new concept

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<v Speaker 3>to provide for your children. Like there was generational housing

0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.240
<v Speaker 3>for centuries, it's actually a new concept for families to

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<v Speaker 3>just oh, you turn eighteen, you're on your own. Go

0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.680
<v Speaker 3>And I mean families helped the younger generations. You're supposed

0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.360
<v Speaker 3>to help the younger generations. You're supposed to leave a legacy.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the habit that Americans have gotten into

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<v Speaker 3>in particular, because you don't see this a lot in

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<v Speaker 3>European countries or in Asian countries, you see a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more generational housing. You see it in Hawaii, probably from

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<v Speaker 3>the Asian influence, and just you know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a necessity there for the same reasons. Housing costs

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<v Speaker 2>are exorbitant there.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, but they don't just throw people out, and like

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<v Speaker 3>Grandma lives there, and mom lives there, and the grandkids

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<v Speaker 3>live there, and there's something really beautiful about that. You

0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.040
<v Speaker 3>do see it throughout Europe and in Asian cultures, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a really neat thing, and it's something

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<v Speaker 3>that we've lost here in America because we are so

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<v Speaker 3>fiercely independent in America that we think our children need

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<v Speaker 3>to be fiercely independent when they turn eighteen, go out

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<v Speaker 3>there and struggle and get and take on a lot

0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.520
<v Speaker 3>of dead and then bring on all this credit card debt.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can watch a twenty two year old or

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five year old get married and just be drowning

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<v Speaker 3>in debt, and then they feel like, well, we can't

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<v Speaker 3>start families. We have all this debt, and so what

0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:51.200
<v Speaker 3>is the point of having all of this wealth as family?

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<v Speaker 3>Not that we have like wealth, but you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Like everyone hoards their wealth or their retirement

0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.040
<v Speaker 3>and then they leave it to their kids when they die.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, it's like, you can get

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<v Speaker 3>it from my cold dead fingers. You know what are

0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:05.680
<v Speaker 3>you sitting on all the money for? You can help

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<v Speaker 3>your family now. You can help your kids now when

0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.840
<v Speaker 3>their kids are little. Because let's say we live to

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<v Speaker 3>the ripe old age of like you know, our eighties

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<v Speaker 3>or nineties. I want to be one hundred and three,

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<v Speaker 3>and then by the time I leave my children anything,

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<v Speaker 3>their children are grown and gone and I haven't helped

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<v Speaker 3>my grandchildren at all, and then they'll take that money

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<v Speaker 3>and then they'll hold on to it until their kids

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<v Speaker 3>kill us.

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<v Speaker 2>The purpose of our life and the way that we

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<v Speaker 2>do it is that we exist so that we can

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<v Speaker 2>provide you know, opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I help them now. I want to help them

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<v Speaker 3>while we're while we're younger, and we're we have a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of family discussions about the fact that hey, we've been

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<v Speaker 2>building and doing all this, but Melissa and I very

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<v Speaker 2>likely won't be around to enjoy it like the kids

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully our grandkids will. We're building all this for

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<v Speaker 2>not ourselves. We're building it for the generations to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I don't see the point of like hoarding

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<v Speaker 3>anything from our children. The entire we live our lives

0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.840
<v Speaker 3>for our kids. And so if we can get them started,

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<v Speaker 3>and if I mean, Navea wants to stay here, so

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to help her in every way that we can.

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<v Speaker 3>She's going to be probably possibly she says yes, building

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<v Speaker 3>her own house starting next year out here, starting in

0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.600
<v Speaker 3>the spring, and so she's already in the planning phases

0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.120
<v Speaker 3>for that. We are not paying to build her forever home.

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<v Speaker 3>She's going to be doing that herself. So we're really

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<v Speaker 3>proud of her. She's working very hard, saving her money.

0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.480
<v Speaker 3>But I mean that build is her. We built a

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<v Speaker 3>little apartment for her to live in while she builds.

0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Same thing goes with Kaimani. If he chooses to build

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<v Speaker 3>a bigger house, then he's going to be building that.

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<v Speaker 2>I already told her I will help with some of

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<v Speaker 2>the labor, but I'm not building you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're not paying for it either.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your thing since you brought it up reluctantly,

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<v Speaker 2>and I asked, do you want to address some of

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<v Speaker 2>the quote unquote wealth comments and remarks because I even

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<v Speaker 2>got we got a comment that I ended up just

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<v Speaker 2>getting rid of because I'm I. These are the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that really gets me in comments don't generally gets me,

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<v Speaker 2>but stuff like this does of like, Hey, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are being manipulative and trying to convince people that you

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<v Speaker 2>are not rich and we are not rich people. People

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<v Speaker 2>I drive a twelve year old vehicle, They.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that we do that for show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I'm bringing up my truck specifically because this

0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.720
<v Speaker 2>guy said, hey, like, you're just driving old vehicles and

0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.800
<v Speaker 2>cars to pretend like you're not rich. No, I'm driving

0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.680
<v Speaker 2>an old vehicle and car because it's paid off. No,

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<v Speaker 2>because my both of our vehicles are paid off. And again,

0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.199
<v Speaker 2>it enables us to save a lot of money to

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<v Speaker 2>do the things that we just prioritize and mean a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more to us, like like an additional living space

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<v Speaker 2>for our kids. I would love to purchase a brand

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<v Speaker 2>new truck.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe you will like that's what I say. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean because he keeps showing me all these.

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<v Speaker 2>Trucks, this truck I've been wanting to trug.

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<v Speaker 3>And pointing them out in town.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is a matter of manipulation. Like we work,

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<v Speaker 2>We work very hard. We work seven days a week,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Guilty because we do Sabbath.

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<v Speaker 2>Now yeah, yeah, okay, we'll say six. But it's seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>I know everybody wants to be dismissive the fact of

0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:57.959
<v Speaker 2>like YouTube isn't a lot of work. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of work. It really is especial when you're running too

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<v Speaker 2>channels like we are, And so do we make a

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<v Speaker 2>good living doing that? Absolutely? Do we work really really

0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:08.040
<v Speaker 2>really hard for it. Absolutely. We're not these people that

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<v Speaker 2>like have been blessed with being promoted on the platform

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<v Speaker 2>at all. Like this has been a grind for us

0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.480
<v Speaker 2>since day one. We've fought and clawed for any ounce

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<v Speaker 2>of proceeved success that we might have had online. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that. I'm actually, you know, somewhat appreciative

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<v Speaker 2>for it, quite honestly, because it serves as a motivating

0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.600
<v Speaker 2>force for us and pluging away. But never has this

0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.920
<v Speaker 2>ever boiled down to like trying to manipulate anybody through cameras.

0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:37.120
<v Speaker 2>We work hard, we save our money, and we don't

0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.400
<v Speaker 2>spend money on things like lavish vacations and we take

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<v Speaker 2>a once a year family trip. We don't have things

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<v Speaker 2>like new cars. This guy was like you about one

0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:45.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars boat. We bought that boat. It was

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<v Speaker 2>not one hundred thousand dollars. I bought it used. It's

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<v Speaker 2>six years old, and I got a really good deal

0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 2>on it. And for me, again, it was at about

0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.320
<v Speaker 2>the purchase of a boat. It was about having an

0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:59.080
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to you. Really look that I get to you

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<v Speaker 2>to create more memories, just this one in particular.

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<v Speaker 3>And he made fun of mine minivan, and so I like, Patty,

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<v Speaker 3>since you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bought the whole world thing up, Like, we're not we're

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<v Speaker 2>not wealthy people. Again, we work very hard, we make

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<v Speaker 2>a good living, not trying to deny that, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>not wealthy by any means. We still scrape and sacrifice,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't purchase new clothes, you know, and if

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<v Speaker 2>we do, they're very shape tooths. We're just we're not

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<v Speaker 2>those types of people. We are people that work hard

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<v Speaker 2>for what is we want and what we want is

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<v Speaker 2>to create kind of a family compound here in our property.

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<v Speaker 2>That has always been the goal, and so for that reason,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's the way we operate the world. Yeah, we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the builds and the continuing of building has nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to do with YouTube. Like that's another like, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 3>just doing this for your YouTube. You're just building this

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<v Speaker 3>for YouTube. You're starting a new build for YouTube, and

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<v Speaker 3>it actually has nothing to do with YouTube. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the decisions we make have actually hurt us on

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<v Speaker 3>the platform. One getting into politics podcasting podcastry, speaking freely

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<v Speaker 3>for an hour where you're expressing your thoughts and opinions

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<v Speaker 3>has hurt us tremendously. We have had so many people say,

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<v Speaker 3>I literally can't stand you guys anymore, now that I

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<v Speaker 3>know how you feel, you've brought, you've brought God into things,

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<v Speaker 3>you've brought your politics into things. Can't stand you guys anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And so they're like, I literally cannot even enjoy your building.

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<v Speaker 2>Falls in line with that, like, continuing to do what

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<v Speaker 2>it is we've done for the last six plus years

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<v Speaker 2>now it doesn't benefit us at all. We would do

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<v Speaker 2>and perform much better if we were to pivot and

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<v Speaker 2>take on a new adventure. But again, that's not what

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<v Speaker 2>we're about. And if hopefully, in doing this podcast, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys feel as though you've got to know us fairly well.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not people who pursue like whatever it is that's

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<v Speaker 2>popular online. We do what we do and if people

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy it, fantastic, and if not, that's okay too. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of other channels out there and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the other people who are willing to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not a knock on those people. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to criticize anybody else. You're free to do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the platform it's for, it's a creative outlet.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are not those people, don't We don't like

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<v Speaker 2>wildly chase views online. We do what we do and

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<v Speaker 2>we hope that people enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So our ultimate goal is just to live debt

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<v Speaker 3>free and then hopefully help our children to live debt free. Also.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's just a lot of peace and freedom

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<v Speaker 3>in that. And so part of our homeschool curriculum, because

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<v Speaker 3>we homeschool our kids always have is just teaching them

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<v Speaker 3>how to start businesses, how to work for themselves, how

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<v Speaker 3>to try different things and how to chase their passions

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<v Speaker 3>and their hobbies. I mean, if one of our kids

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<v Speaker 3>has a hobby or a passion, like we go all

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<v Speaker 3>in like well, I mean, Eli and as many hobbies

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<v Speaker 3>you and your many hobbies.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get into that. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be a dead horse with this whole thing here. But

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<v Speaker 2>being in this new space and some of the critiques

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<v Speaker 2>and criticisms that we got in the comments, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>and bothered. I'm feeling legitimately hot. It's like my mustache

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<v Speaker 2>is sweating, and hopefully that answers some of your questions.

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<v Speaker 3>My mustache is sweating too.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you have any fair questions that you'd like

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<v Speaker 2>for us to elaborate on, please take them down. On

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<v Speaker 2>the comments, I have no problem, it's just the people

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<v Speaker 2>that get rude. I don't. I have a very low

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<v Speaker 2>tolerance for these overtly just like flat out rude behaviors

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<v Speaker 2>where you start name calling, you start making judgments upon

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<v Speaker 2>our family and the way we do things like I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not here for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of times like it's funny because

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<v Speaker 3>I have that initial reaction to where I'm like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to like Kermit the Frog on.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, Oh, you're that person.

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<v Speaker 3>But then sometimes, like I have realized, if you just

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<v Speaker 3>like take a breath and then you just talk to

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<v Speaker 3>people like you can really find some common ground with them,

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<v Speaker 3>and sometimes it's just a misunderstanding or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, you've done really well in that regard.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I ran into some people in town earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this week and they brought up just some of the

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<v Speaker 2>critiques and criticisms they see that we get, and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I know how you put up with it and how

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<v Speaker 2>you do it. And I told them until the point of

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'd rather you hate me for everything

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<v Speaker 2>it is that we are, rather than love me for

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<v Speaker 2>something that we're not. And that's kind of the philosophy

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<v Speaker 2>mentality that we've always operated with. So if we don't

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<v Speaker 2>do it for you, great, I wish you'd stuck around,

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're making a decision to go elsewhere, so

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<v Speaker 2>we we'd.

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<v Speaker 3>Rather be your shadow whiskey, then everyone's cut of tea.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct, mama. All right, let's jump into a video

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<v Speaker 2>reat you don't Okay, you have a little tea leaf there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, it's like drinking sand in Jeremy.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're watching this video, perhaps you know that feeling

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<v Speaker 4>when you're scrolling through Instagram at eleven PM, seeing your

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<v Speaker 4>old college friends at some dinner party you weren't invited to,

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<v Speaker 4>and suddenly you're hit with this weird mix of fomo

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<v Speaker 4>and existential dread. Like sure, you know to try not

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<v Speaker 4>to take things personally, but at the same time, it

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<v Speaker 4>makes you feel like something is wrong with you, that

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<v Speaker 4>you're not good enough. That's something the entire generation is

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<v Speaker 4>grappling with, the slow, painful dissolution of meaningful adult friendships.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a big misconception that the loneliness epidemic is only

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<v Speaker 4>felt by introverts al those staying at home with no hobbies.

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<v Speaker 4>The reality is everyone is feeling it. Society has fundamentally

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<v Speaker 4>changed a lot the past decade, and people's expectations for

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<v Speaker 4>friendships have become higher and higher as we move towards

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<v Speaker 4>an individualistic society. So, although you've probably heard it plenty

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<v Speaker 4>of times, you're not alone. The research and studies are

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<v Speaker 4>coming out and it's affected society in many subtle ways.

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<v Speaker 4>The Great friendship Recession the uncomfortable truth we're living through

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<v Speaker 4>what researchers are calling a friendship recession. This isn't just

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<v Speaker 4>millennial whining. The data backs it up. Since nineteen ninety,

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<v Speaker 4>the number of Americans who say they have no close

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<v Speaker 4>friends has quadrupled. Among people aged twenty three thirty two,

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<v Speaker 4>the average number of close friends has dropped from three

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<v Speaker 4>point four to one point nine in just the last decade.

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<v Speaker 4>So why is this the case? Well, on one hand,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no doubt that people are trying to be their

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<v Speaker 4>best versions. Lately, with social media and everyone comparing themselves

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<v Speaker 4>to the best of the best on a global scale,

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<v Speaker 4>it's no surprise that people's standards in both themselves and

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<v Speaker 4>others has risen. Here's where it gets interesting from a

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<v Speaker 4>psychological perspective. Kal Jung, the famous Swiss psychologist, wrote about

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<v Speaker 4>something called individuation, basically the process of becoming who you're

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<v Speaker 4>meant to be rather than whose society expects you to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds empowering, right. Here's the thing. True individuation was never

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<v Speaker 4>meant to happen in isolation. It requires witnesses, mirrors, people

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<v Speaker 4>who can reflect back.

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<v Speaker 2>To you who you're becoming.

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<v Speaker 4>In other words, you literally need friends to become yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet our culture has sold us this myth of rugged

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<v Speaker 4>individualism that says needing others is weakness. It praises isolation

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<v Speaker 4>and being lone wolf and the fantasy of emerging victorious.

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<v Speaker 4>Think about it. When was the last time you saw

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<v Speaker 4>a movie where the climax was about maintaining a friendship

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<v Speaker 4>rather than finding a romantic love. You've been culturally programmed

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<v Speaker 4>to see friendship as optional and nice to have, rather

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<v Speaker 4>than essential for psychological health. Meanwhile, your nervous system is

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<v Speaker 4>screaming for connection because it is designed to evolved in

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<v Speaker 4>small tribes where social bonds literally meant survival. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>reason why loneliness feels so bad, because it's programmed to

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<v Speaker 4>make you feel like something is wrong with you and

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<v Speaker 4>makes you want to reconnect the cruel irony. The very

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 4>technology that was supposed to connect us has made authentic

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<v Speaker 4>friendship harder than ever. We're more connected, yet more lonely,

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<v Speaker 4>more informed about each other's lives, yet less intimate.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, mama, let's talk about it. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that this applies to you? The friendship recession?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think I was in a recession long

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<v Speaker 3>before the recession began. I feel like I went bankrupt,

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<v Speaker 3>like after high school.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you feel like that's a good thing? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you agree with all the video messaging? Yes? And no.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like this guy understands introverts. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think that most people probably do you feel this way,

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<v Speaker 3>especially with social media. But what this person or I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if it was ar voice or whatever, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>or what this psychologist is missing is that introverts don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel that loneliness, and they don't feel like they're missing

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<v Speaker 3>out when they see a picture of their friends all

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<v Speaker 3>out to eat, Like you might feel like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't invited, and it's more of like an insult thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but you don't wish you were there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the answers to this question. Do you the

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<v Speaker 2>joy of missing.

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<v Speaker 3>Joy of missing out? Like when I see I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>true introvert and always have been, and then when I

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<v Speaker 3>see a bunch of people out doing something, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>relieved that I'm in my living room.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always joke with Melissam that you want to

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<v Speaker 2>get me something from our birthday, make plans, and then

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<v Speaker 2>on the day of my birthday, cancel those plans. We're grumps.

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<v Speaker 3>Like even trips, Like if a trip is planned and

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<v Speaker 3>then I find out that it's not happening, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I just I get how this comes across. But

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<v Speaker 2>I and like I said, I already know the answer

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<v Speaker 2>to this question.

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<v Speaker 1>True.

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<v Speaker 3>True, it's being true introverts. And I think if you're

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<v Speaker 3>an extra or you're not a true introvert, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>understand the minds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you have a list of friends currently?

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<v Speaker 3>I have people I do.

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<v Speaker 2>There are six of.

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<v Speaker 3>Them are there all in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Their names are Melissa and ave Hukaimani.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have people that I care about that I

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<v Speaker 3>would consider I guess I would consider them friends. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just not a good friend person. Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>my friends. I don't necessarily go and hang out with.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, we just had we just had the fires,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, breakout in our area, and like I was

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 3>literally up like calling a couple that I consider to

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 3>be on a friend absolutely, and so I mean I

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 3>would do anything for them, but I probably won't go

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 3>to a movie with you.

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>What is a friendship entail? At this point they always

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 2>try to tell people like, you don't want to be

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 2>friends with me, You don't want to be friends with us,

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 2>because we're not. We're very boring. For one and two,

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 2>we're workaholics. Like we alluded to year in the first

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 2>half of the episode, we work through Damna, and.

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 3>When we're not working, we carry around a big, hot,

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 3>steamy side dish of guilt, parental guilt for taking any

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 3>amount of time away from our children. And so if

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 3>we have a day where we're not working, we're with

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 3>our children and we're trying to do individual activities with them.

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean throwing the ball and stuff too, but you

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, like you, I will just wait

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 3>to throw the ball with you in the evening, and

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 3>like that is so much more important than going and

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 3>getting a drink with somebody.

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I go back. I had we had somebody that I

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>used to work with over the police apartment and come

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 2>by to visit, and he was asking about whether or

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 2>not I've been keeping in touch with everybody there that

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I would consider a friend back from the police apartment.

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 2>I told him, it's kind of just waned over time,

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 2>which is unfortunate, and if you happen to be watching

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 2>them that this isn't again. I'm not trying to throw

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 2>up like a steamy dish of guilt with anybody here,

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>because I'm just as responsible in this situations that Greeks.

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I just you kind of lose touch with people over time.

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I don't know that I personally, I mean,

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I do know. I don't really have anybody that I

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>would call like a best friend currently because you said

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 2>it is my best friend, Yeah, it's Melissa, And I

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily think that there's anything wrong with that. And

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 2>then when it comes to being like a you know,

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>a good, platonic, reliable friend. I always try to lay

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>off for people like that's that you don't want me

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>as your friend. That sounds horrible awful to say, Like

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I understand how that sounds saying it out loud, but

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>it's the reality of the matter.

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Did you hear that guy, that Manisphere guy? Navy I

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 3>did a little podcast on Right Side Up on her

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 3>channel about that guy who says, like, your wife can't

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 3>be your friend.

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I saw that one. Sorry, Nobil,

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 2>you can't watch.

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Then Vie's Right Side Up.

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't watch everything. Here's another thing that people would

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>probably be surprised by. I don't watch all the stuff

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>we put online, even our own stuff. I watch it

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>just to make sure that it's good to go, and

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 2>then once it's out, I'm like, we're on to the

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>next one.

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 3>So that's funny.

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>You just probably have a better like comprehension of what

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 2>it is that we put out online, more so than

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I do.

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, there is a guy that's pretty popular in the

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 3>whole Manisphere movement, and he's like an older guy totally

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 3>reminds me of one of the commanders that would be

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 3>in handmade stale. I know, I reference that show all

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 3>the time, and it's because I swear it's coming true.

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 3>And he said that wives cannot be their husband's friends,

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 3>that men need man or friends to connect, and they're like,

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 3>your wife is not your friend, they are your wife.

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 3>And if you make them your friend, then you ruin

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 3>like that romantic connection, and that you also like you're

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 3>in the friend zone, and that also you lose like

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 3>the hierarchy of being in your family, Like he wants

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 3>to be like the king of his family and his

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 3>wife to be like subservient friends and you're more equal,

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 3>and he finds that inappropriate we are equal.

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily feel that way. I mean, I understand

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 2>where they're coming from with that, but I don't agree.

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I think you should be best friends with the person

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 2>that you just spent you decide to spend the rest

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 2>of your life with, that you partner up with, you

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.479
<v Speaker 2>do life with. Yeah, I think there is a benefit

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>to men hanging out with men. There are a lot

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>of like men's social clubs that have been popping up

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 2>more recently. This has become like a thing online. I

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>told you about that other one this morning where it's

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 2>younger people like gen Z, people who are saying no

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 2>to the entire AI social media complex.

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what was that conference called.

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember currently, but they basically go there and

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>then like rather than having like tech CEOs come by

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 2>and give speeches, they do talks on like artists and

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 2>crafts or how to date, how to flirt and how

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>to date without the utilization of apps, which I'm all

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>in favor for it.

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 3>That needs to be taught. Well, it was stuff like

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 3>that used to be taught back in the day of

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 3>like how to be a gentleman, how to approach a woman,

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 3>how do kiss their hand.

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 2>It's all just become emphasized on because the world's gotten

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 2>so freaking crazy. You know, these damn kids don't know

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>how to speak to one another, even our own children,

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>because so much communication is done online. That's part of

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 2>the video that I did actually agree with is that

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 2>now we have social media and because of that, it

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>serves as a substitute for so many of our friendships.

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Like I would say, I'm probably still relatively close with

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the people that I grew up with

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 2>back in Hoy. You know, we've met up like with

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 2>with Sean Dona Texas a.

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Couple of every couple of years.

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, every couple of years. But none of us, at

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 2>least for myself, Like none of us are on the phone,

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 2>like hey, just checking in, seeing how you're doing. And

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I think at one point in time that was of

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the utmost importance when it came to maintaining those friendships

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 2>and relationships. But now, because of social media, we see

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 2>everything it is that people are doing, so we don't

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 2>have to ask those questions. I can go and visit

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 2>you for the first time in ten years and still

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 2>have a feel as though, like I know what it

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 2>is you've been doing and experiencing, and that really sucks

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 2>because it takes the intimacy out of those relationships.

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think we also forget like did somebody

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 3>tell me that? Or did I see it online? Like

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 3>you just sort of know what's going on with everybody,

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 3>so you don't pick up the phone and call and

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 3>ask you've seen their kids, you know, if their dog died,

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:30.240
<v Speaker 3>you know if their mother passed.

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 2>You with family, I feel like it's become and it's

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 2>terribly terribly tragic. I don't like it, but I'm guilty

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.320
<v Speaker 2>of participating in this regormor it's it's.

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 3>Even birthdays, you know, like birthday cards. Yeah, when we

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 3>had Nevella, she's got like forty congratulation cards, you know,

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 3>because it was two thousand and six. And now with

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Micah's birth.

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 2>Nobody cared.

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Eighteen years later, he got two cards and the b

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<v Speaker 3>babies up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's like he heard us talking about his cards. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so he got two cards. And it's not because I

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<v Speaker 3>think nobody cared about our fifth child, and maybe that

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<v Speaker 3>was part of it. It's like you already have something,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's just a different time. Even birthday cards, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean in the when it was your birthday as a kid,

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<v Speaker 3>cards used to come in the mail, and now they

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<v Speaker 3>don't come in the mail anymore, and people don't send

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<v Speaker 3>wedding cards and everything like that. I mean, Hallmark was massive.

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<v Speaker 3>You would go to Hallmark, you would pick a card.

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<v Speaker 3>You would go to a birthday party and you would

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 3>get you know, you would go pick out a card

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<v Speaker 3>and everyone's presence had the big blue or pink envelope

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<v Speaker 3>and you'd try to find the correlating envelope to the

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<v Speaker 3>card and make sure it fit. I mean, that was

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<v Speaker 3>the Hallmark experience. They had the sticker wall with the

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 3>little stickers on the role. My mom would let us

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:53.839
<v Speaker 3>pick ten little sticker squares. Like, yeah, that's gone, we've

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<v Speaker 3>lost all that.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you make of the portion of the video

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 2>where he was talking about needing that that feedback, that reciprocation,

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 2>so that you know who it is that you are.

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 2>You can't you can't come into your own and be

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 2>completely fulfilled and have this sense of identity without the

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 2>feedback from others. You agree with that.

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Now, I find that to be like a weird socially

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 3>like socialist.

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you should allow other people to tell you who

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 2>it is that you are, right.

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Like, why do you need the feedback of somebody else

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 3>to tell you who you are? And I think that's

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 3>something that we lose with, like sending your kids to school,

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 3>any school, because when you go to a school, and

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm not I'm not making this episode about knocking schools,

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 3>but when you send a child to school, they're you know,

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 3>everybody's very unique. Toddlers are they're weird and there and

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 3>they're fun loving and they're free spirited and they do

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 3>whatever they want.

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 2>They make chips away that individualism.

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like you know, Mica runs around making piggy noises

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 3>because he thinks it's funny. But if he went to

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 3>school and he did that and somebody said that's weird,

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't do it anymore. And so I think part

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 3>of that is like, okay, no, but you need to

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 3>adapt to be normal. But at the same time, I

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 3>think that when you adapt because you want to be accepted.

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 3>It's part of the human spirit to want to be

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 3>accepted and to fit in and not be no one.

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 3>No kid wants to be the weird kid. It's not

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 3>a good thing to be the weird kid.

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 2>It is a good thing to be a weird kid.

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Not in school, not in school, but in life it is.

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. You want to stand out. You don't

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 2>want to be like everybody else. And when conformity is

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 2>the name of the game, that stuff that we usually

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 2>opt out on, which I guess in part is home school.

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, ever, so weird and so our kids are so

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.800
<v Speaker 3>unique because no one's ever told them that they're weird.

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, and again to go back, it's that process of

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 2>refinement of like, yay, I got teased for that, so

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to do that anymore. But maybe it

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 2>was something that made.

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 3>You happy, yeah, or something that was like truly a

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 3>passion of yours, or something that you can tie.

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Back into exactly what it is we were saying at

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the start of this episode. You can't rely on other

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 2>people in this case, so many of you out there

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 2>who view what it is we do. You can't take

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 2>that feedback and allow it to shape you and mold

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 2>you into who it is you think somebody else wants

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 2>you to be. You have to be yourself.

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that's hard to do. I mean, it's really hard.

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 3>To do as a content creator because you get so

0:40:55.719 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 3>much feedback positive, negative, different opinions and different suggestions, and

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 3>they and.

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 2>People do allow it for it to affect them.

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they do. They'll change everything that They'll change everything

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 3>that they do, and then you lose your Now you

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 3>are performing for views, and you're performing for what's going

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.800
<v Speaker 3>to do well in retention and what you think that

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 3>people want to see, but that doesn't necessarily line up

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 3>with who you are, and now you lose yourself.

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I tell you all the time when I have like

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 2>so many social interactions in a day, Like there are

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 2>been days where we drove down a Spokane while you're

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.399
<v Speaker 2>promoting your last book, and like we're shaking hands, meeting people,

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 2>and it's great. Don't get me wrong, it's great. Well,

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 2>my social battery, especially with how we live now so isolated,

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>it dwindles very very rapidly. And that's something that I'm

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily happy about. It's just it's like, my this

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 2>is a bad word to use, but my tolerance for

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>having these like casual social interactions is just fallen off the.

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Data because we don't do it very often. I actually

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.240
<v Speaker 3>really enjoyed that experience because.

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 2>You're more social than I am, though.

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm more social, like in the moment, but like, if

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 3>given a choice, do you want to go or not?

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 3>I will usually not want to go, But then once

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 3>I go, I usually have fun.

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 2>I feel like physical exhaustion after days I after words,

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I do. I'm using that as an example because I

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:14.439
<v Speaker 2>distinctly remember making the two and a half hour drive

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 2>back from Spokane just being like early morning. It wasn't

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 2>early morning, long day, but just you know, having to

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 2>not having to again. I'm not trying to make this

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 2>out to sound like burden somebody means, but having these

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 2>very friendly, like again fantastic interactions with so many you like,

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I just like my it's like I'm out of shape,

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, because we live so isolated

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 2>and I don't get this regular interaction with people out

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 2>in the world. Like it just it wears me down

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot faster. Now.

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I like that experience because like, to me, those were

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 3>such a die hard people that like showed up.

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't take this wrong, Yeah I know, I don't.

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 3>Mean I thought that was like to me, that was

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 3>actually something that I really enjoyed, and it is rare

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 3>that I enjoy social interactions.

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 2>But let me terrify since I said that, because I

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 2>don't want this to sound bad. No, I really just

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>genuinely don't. I love the interact, Like it's very uplifting

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 2>in the moment, but in a day where there's so

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 2>many rapid like ups and down.

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe if you meet like forty people or something.

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just it's my social batteries just it runs.

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't run the way that it once did when

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, also having to go to work every day

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 2>and do you like bounce from house to house and

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 2>deal with people or go back to the pre secondary

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 2>interactions far far different interactions, which I'm so incredibly grateful for.

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.959
<v Speaker 2>I guess what I'm saying is I think I feel

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 2>like we have adapted to living. I mean, we can

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 2>go a week here and not see anybody outside of

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 2>like the delivery guys that show up.

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.919
<v Speaker 3>Literally there are friends, and that's a rare in the world.

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 2>And I get that most people don't function like that,

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 2>But I.

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Make friends with your FedEx guy, you know that you

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 3>live really Yeah, I.

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Just found this entire concept so interesting because yeah, we

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 2>are most definitely one of those people or some of

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 2>those people that don't really have the best friend or

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.760
<v Speaker 2>group of friends that get go out and do things socially.

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned to you the whole third stop concept to

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 2>where the third stop is missing in so many people's

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 2>day to day life nowadays, the overwhelming majority of us

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 2>will just bounce between home and work. I'm at home,

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm relaxing. I'm probably tinkering on my phone on social media,

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>which is tragically, tragically sad. I go to work, I'm

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 2>only half checked in there because I don't genuinely care

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.439
<v Speaker 2>about what's happening here. I mean, how many of us

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 2>am I describing right now? I know that this is

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 2>probably the case for me at one point when I'm

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 2>still plugged into the you know, the go to work

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 2>everyday world.

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, no, I think that's true. And yeah, the

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 3>third stop would be, you know, like stopping by the

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 3>bar to drink with friends, or going hitting around a

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 3>golf or isn't just a Bible.

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Study know so many people don't have that that social outlet,

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 2>that third stop is where I was going with that,

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's really really sad.

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.439
<v Speaker 3>Well, a lot of people are losing their hobbies too,

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, not necessarily in this family. We are the

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:43.280
<v Speaker 3>family of hobbies. I have no hobbies. As Jeremy says,

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 3>he's always like I give him a hard time about

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 3>his many many hobbies because there's been many many.

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Who's thought about this.

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think this is a man.

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 2>This is a mad thing. Here's where we're going with this.

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I over the years, over the last you know, twenty

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 2>plus years that you and I have known we've known

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.360
<v Speaker 2>one another, I've had a number of hobbies. I like hobbies,

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 2>and I always express concern from Melissa because she doesn't

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.879
<v Speaker 2>seem to have any, and that to me, that part

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 2>of it's weird, especially with this hard as muscle work.

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 3>My children are my hobby. Like I enjoy my children.

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 3>I like to enjoy my old man horses, and I

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 3>like to grow food. My hobby is like you know,

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 3>horse into nutrition.

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 2>You got the horse. That's become an obsession. That is

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:22.760
<v Speaker 2>not a hobby.

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Hobby obsessions thin line. So I like stuff like that,

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 3>and I like to I like things that I can

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 3>apply to my everyday life. And I like what I like,

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Like I haven't really changed. Me at ten years old

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 3>and me now forty three is pretty much the same girl.

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 3>Same like I like my horses. I like babies. That's

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 3>that does and like five or six.

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay for me, what has there been? There has been

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 2>kayak fishing.

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you are jumping way ahead. Okay. There has been

0:45:56.960 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 3>bonzie trees, bonzize little that he would cut with little scissors.

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 2>There's been told me geeking out on like gardening and

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:06.320
<v Speaker 2>self sufficiency. That's how we end up with the meat rabbits.

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.360
<v Speaker 2>That was my doing, my fault, even though Melissa is

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 2>the quote unquote rabbit queen on YouTube. That was my thing.

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 2>What else has there been? That?

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Where I got run golfing, golfing, biking, biking.

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I got really into biking and mountain biking.

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 3>I was actually barefoot running barefoot running for two years.

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Were shoes with the toes. He bought me a pair.

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 2>You bought a pair with it.

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 3>No, you wanted me a pair. So we would walk

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.959
<v Speaker 3>around looking like frogs together.

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of social social things that we've done.

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 3>But wait, let's stop for a second. Okay, Now, these

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 3>were obsessions like I need this two hundred dollars mini

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 3>tree that looks like a big tree, but it lives

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 3>in the house.

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 2>You bought me the one because I'm.

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 3>A supportive wife. I support all the hobbies of the

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:52.399
<v Speaker 3>many men in my life.

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>She gives me a hard time.

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 3>All my little men, I support their hobbies by buying things,

0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 3>by by seeking out opportunities for them to go and

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 3>explore these things. And I swear by the time we

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:04.959
<v Speaker 3>get to the event, they're no longer. The thing about

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 3>your your hobbies and Eli's hobbies is you guys drop

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 3>them so quick. They drop them as quick as they

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 3>can see a commercial or a movie, or somebody walks

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 3>by with a T shirt on, and they're like, you.

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Guys, if you've been falling along a while, you know, Eli,

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:23.720
<v Speaker 2>child number four has had bull riding.

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh you're skipping ahead ahead, he's had bull riding chickens. Currently,

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:29.280
<v Speaker 3>it started with chickens, Okay.

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Currently he's geeking out on stadiums, like stadium architecture, the

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 2>history of it.

0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Again, if any of you guys have any connection to

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 3>any stadiums, specifically in the Seattle area or in the

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:45.319
<v Speaker 3>Nashville area, I'm trying to think of places we're going

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 3>to be. If you have any connections to any of

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 3>these stadiums, Eli would like a tour so that he

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 3>can then drop that interest and move on.

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not a matter of dropping you see. This

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.399
<v Speaker 2>is the criticism that comes from I don't drop these

0:47:57.520 --> 0:47:58.800
<v Speaker 2>these hobbies.

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Really because that little two hundred and fifty feed dollar

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.280
<v Speaker 3>mini tree I bought you just fried in the backyard

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 3>because you no longer No, that wasn't a reason.

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happens to that tree. I still

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 2>love Bonzie trees. I still love things like barefoot running.

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm enamored with running. Running, I would say, is my

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 2>current obsession hobby. I had a horrible run yesterday. Is

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 2>something you saw. I hurt my back? How was my

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 2>first run?

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 3>You're going to run that marathon and then you're going

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 3>to drop it like a bad.

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Half after hurting my back. That's not true. That's not true. Really,

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 2>what the issue is, there's just not enough time in

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 2>the day to, you know, really indulge in all of

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 2>your hobbies. And yeah, I think it is more so

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 2>of a man thing because the women in our family

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<v Speaker 2>really don't seem to have.

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Hobbies or women just like what we like. We've all

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 3>let us know, done on the company. We like what

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 3>we like. We're comfortable in that. We don't feel like

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 3>we need to go out and see, like we don't

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<v Speaker 3>zero in on one thing and then have to learn

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 3>everything about it. I just heard Matt wallsh talking about

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 3>this fish keeping is his wife's giving him a hard

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 3>time because now all of a sudden he's decided he's

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 3>going to be a fish keeper. She's like, why are

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 3>you having fish? And he's like, it's called fish keeping.

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 2>That's another thing I could see myself totally geeking out

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<v Speaker 2>on this. Has already told me I'm not allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>get an aquarium.

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:05.280
<v Speaker 3>So if all of a sudden there is a huge

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:08.720
<v Speaker 3>saltwater tank behind us, you don't know that fish keeping

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:09.760
<v Speaker 3>is Jeremy's newest.

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Hobby right behind me in the new podcast, So you

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 2>a big aquarium, swear.

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:15.359
<v Speaker 3>And also the fish will be floating at the top

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<v Speaker 3>because fish keeping is no longer on the agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think men back me up on this down

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<v Speaker 2>in the comment section. We have hobbies and we're not

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:25.279
<v Speaker 2>like letting them go or abandoning them. Abandoning them there's

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:28.360
<v Speaker 2>just not enough time in the day abandon them.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like Nevella was saying that Eli, I don't

0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:35.359
<v Speaker 3>I have you to give a hard time too. So

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 3>we were saying we could have like a graveyard or

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 3>like a man room that just has a different wall

0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 3>for like each of the rip hobbies that have come across,

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 3>so like for Eli, the first obsession was when he

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 3>was one years old and it was chickens. Chickens, Chicken

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 3>loved chickens. I mean we had a chicken birthday party,

0:49:57.200 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 3>remember the chicken birthday party. And then it became tractors,

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 3>and then from tractors it became dinosaurs and fossils, and

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 3>then from then it became space. You guys came around

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 3>during the space obsession. Remember when he would wear the

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:15.120
<v Speaker 3>every day at Mars time or Mars hour.

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 2>Mars hours, so there's a time of day where the

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 2>lighting is supposed to resemble what the environment would be

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 2>like on Mars, and so he would put his astronaut

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 2>suit on. He'd pretend he was on Mars. Nothing wrong

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 2>with that.

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 3>It was before Golden hour, was it after? No, it

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 3>was right after Golden hour when the sun has set

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 3>and you still have that glow. Apparently that's what Mars

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 3>hour is. And he would wear the NASA suit and

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 3>then so we brought him to the museums. We did

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.480
<v Speaker 3>all this and all of a sudden, he wasn't the

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Mars suit was no longer. Then he saw top Gun.

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 3>That's all. It took one movie, The guy obsession Fighter.

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 2>He knows a lot of you guys saw that.

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 3>He got to go fly an airplane, which was amazing.

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Thank you Chad for that experience. He he got to

0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 3>fly the airplane. And then pretty much after that day

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 3>he was.

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Like, no, I still he's still he's still into all

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:10.479
<v Speaker 2>of these things again to my.

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Point, I mean, yeah, but like he can he could

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.280
<v Speaker 3>name every fighter jet. We took him to the Museum

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 3>of Flight in Seattle, amazing museum if you're ever in Seattle,

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 3>and then he was just sort of over it and

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:26.919
<v Speaker 3>then he just moved on. So during that time, we

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 3>ended up going on a trip to Texas and we

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:32.319
<v Speaker 3>just were trying to find things to entertain ourselves. We

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 3>went to the PBR just because it happened to be

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:36.399
<v Speaker 3>in town that night.

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 2>And we were like, let's go shout out to the PBR.

0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:43.880
<v Speaker 3>He saw that and it was like home and he

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 3>bought a cowboy hat, the boots, the chaps. He was

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 3>mutton busting. He wouldn't stay off Manny. He wanted a

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:55.239
<v Speaker 3>pony and then the pony bucked him off. He thought

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 3>that wasn't very fun. So then he started like there

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:01.120
<v Speaker 3>started to be like chinks in the chain, you know.

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 3>And so then we went and we went to the

0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 3>I went to the PBR, and I said, I got

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 3>a little boy that was like obsessed. He's going to

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:10.239
<v Speaker 3>be a bull rider for sure. He went and he

0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 3>met all these PBR writers and then he was like fulfilled.

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Then when we were at the PBR, he was just

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:20.840
<v Speaker 3>sort of looking around and he's like, this stadium's really cool.

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.680
<v Speaker 3>And he's like and he's like, this is an arena.

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Like if you think this is cool, you should check

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 3>out NFL stadiums. And so he went home and he did.

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Now he knows the history of every stadium when it

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 3>was built, what architect built it, when it was torn down.

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:40.920
<v Speaker 2>It just a little patch of the Astro turf from

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia, and he loves it.

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:47.919
<v Speaker 3>Yesterday in the mail, I get this package and I

0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 3>was like, what the heck is this? So I open

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 3>it up and it's another piece of turf from.

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Astro Stadium as Astro. She loves. That's like his favorite stadium.

0:52:57.320 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so now he's going on too eBay.

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:00.919
<v Speaker 2>Oh, he bought them.

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:02.960
<v Speaker 3>He bought that and didn't tell me about it and

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:04.919
<v Speaker 3>said that he would work it off. It was twelve

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 3>ninety five, so he has to do some chores. He

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 3>bought a piece of He thought that perhaps I would

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 3>say no, So we had never talk about not using

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Mom's credit card on eBay. He bought a piece of

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:21.800
<v Speaker 3>turf from astro Stadium and then the okay, Astrodome told

0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:24.960
<v Speaker 3>me that it's highly toxic. So he's now put it

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 3>into a zip log and I mean so now I

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:31.800
<v Speaker 3>feel like that's going to go on his stadium wall.

0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna It's.

0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:36.360
<v Speaker 2>A point being we have hobbies, we have obsessions.

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 3>And as women have no interest.

0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:40.160
<v Speaker 2>We don't leaven behind and has no friends.

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how we could possibly as women, have

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:45.839
<v Speaker 3>any hobbies when we're trying to keep up with the

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:47.840
<v Speaker 3>many hobbies of the men in our lives.

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:52.880
<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. Let's begin to shut this one down. I'm roasting.

0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm so hot, so hot like a potato.

0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 2>And now the sun's beaming down on the floor and

0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 2>bouncing back at me. So this episode number one here

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:04.959
<v Speaker 2>from the loft. Welcome, thank you for being here. Anything

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:05.880
<v Speaker 2>else you wanna plug in here?

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.879
<v Speaker 3>No, no, I think we just need some some air,

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:10.800
<v Speaker 3>we need some plants.

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:11.680
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do better.

0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 3>I promise you got to get better. We will bearing with.

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Us, we will refine this process in this setup, and

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 2>hopefully things get better over time. So until then, you guys,

0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:22.719
<v Speaker 2>take care, God bless thank you for being here. We'll

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 2>try to do better the next time and we'll see

0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 2>you next week.

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I am so hot, brain is melting. You got these

0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 3>camamel flowers in the

0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Bag right through