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Speaker 1: look at what he said, and then I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Oh, go, go, go, Yes, I want to ask you about Iran.

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Speaker 3: Is a military option still on the table? And Ken,

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Speaker 3: you assure us that the killing in Iran has stopped.

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Speaker 3: And when regard to your Pace Council, wish members have

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Speaker 2: So with Iran, are you from Iran?

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Speaker 3: No, I've covered the White House?

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Speaker 2: Where are you from?

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Speaker 2: So with Iran, they were going to hang eight hundred

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Speaker 2: they decided not to do it. They didn't hang the people.

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Speaker 1: My guest now is doctor Walid Farrez, who is an

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you for having me. Great.

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Speaker 1: Are you proud of the people of Iran?

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Speaker 3: So proud erin you know, we have friends, Iranian friends

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