WEBVTT - A Special Message From Mrs. Erika Kirk 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.360 My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:09.960 American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:10.840 of our republic. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.400 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.200 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.600 you're going to end up miserable. But if the most 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:25.040 important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.040 is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.160 kids to college. You should get married as young as 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.640 possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.840 at turning point. You would say college chapter. Go start 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.000 aturning point, yould say high school chapter. Go find out 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.200 how your church can get involved. Sign up and become 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.239 an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.640 fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:45.080 and I encourage you to do the same. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:49.720 Here I am Lord, Use me. Buckle up, everybody, Here 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:51.400 we go. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.280 Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.280 Charlie Kirkshaw, a company that specializes in gold I rays 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.560 and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.920 protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegold investments 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:17.720 dot Com. That is Noblegoldinvestments dot Com. You guys are 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.640 welcome to ask anything, open mic, disagreement, most welcome. You disagree, 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:23.400 come to the front of the line. You disagree, come 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:24.880 to the front of the line. If you disagree, go 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:26.040 to the front of the line. You guys know how 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:27.800 it works. You disagree, go to the line. We'll have 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.440 a great conversation here. Who are you? My name is 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.759 Charlie Kirk, and I love America because I love talking 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:34.800 with people I disagree with? 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:36.600 What have you done for your country? 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.520 Start an organization that's now in a thousand plus campuses 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.039 to save the greatest culture in country. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:41.800 Every two exists. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.840 I love talking for people I disagree, though, When people 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.520 stop talking, that's when you get violence. That's when civil 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:48.200 war happens. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.080 Seems to me that nothing will ever be enough for 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:56.400 the evil in this world. Our country has become unrecognizable. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.720 These people have perverted the truth to the point that 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:05.040 they motivated the murder of my husband. They have continuously 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.960 tried to assassinate the president, and anyone who stands in 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:14.720 their way is labeled hateful, racist, fascist, and every other 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:19.239 trigger word that is grossly dishonest. We want the best 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:20.680 for our country. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:21.800 They don't. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:23.000 This is why. 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.240 Charlie started turning Point USA in the first place. He 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:29.960 didn't trust the radicalized liberal teachers. And this past Saturday, 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:31.279 it was a school. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.960 Teacher, of all people, a school teacher. 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:38.000 That attempted to change our history for the worst with bullets. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.679 And everyone is asking why I even went to the 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.560 White House Correspondent Center, and it was because many of 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.679 the journalists in that room have attempted to dehumanize me, 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.360 and I wanted to meet some of them face to face. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:56.120 Quite frankly, why have a conversation about me when you 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:00.200 can have a conversation with me. So, for example, a 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.320 journalist from the Daily Mail came up to me. She 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.840 introduced herself and she was saying she. 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:06.520 Was very gracious. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.400 She was saying, you look so beautiful. I'm so sorry 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:15.120 for your loss, to which I replied, it is so 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:19.200 nice to put a name to the face, especially with 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.320 all of the slander, the lies, accusations that are out 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.959 there surrounding my husband's murder and myself. And I said 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.440 to her, you know what's so interesting, this is my 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:35.040 first time at the White House Correspondent Sinner, and I 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.640 find it so fascinating the dynamic that is going on 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.720 right now, because everyone is all dressed up, and you 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.520 guys are co mingling in and out of each other's 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.920 cocktail parties, and so for one night you are able 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.080 to put aside all of your differences for the sake 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:56.320 of freedom of speech, and then by Monday morning things 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.160 will go back to being an absolute bloodbath between all 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.720 of you. She replied, literally, she said, I know, isn't 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:04.320 it special? 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:04.640 Right? 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:12.800 Isn't tonight so special? And following that conversation, it was 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.400 time to take our seats and we went into the 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.880 big ballroom where the dinner was. And one of the 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.880 first things I noticed when I walked into that room 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.279 was quite literally the proximity of the opposing outlets to 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:27.200 one another. So you have one table here that's Politico, 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.480 and another table here that's Fox, and another table here 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.560 that's Wappo, and you're all cramped together, elbow to elbow. 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.600 And to make the night even more of a spectacle, 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:40.200 every single ten person table had ten bottles of wine. 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:44.279 And the president of the White House Correspondence Association, she 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.920 did a great job of trying to make the evening 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.760 had that feeling of Americana. You know, we were in 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.400 a room celebrating freedom of speech despite our differences, and 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:58.200 the US Marine band performed the national anthems so beautifully, 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:05.160 and then shortly thereafter, gunshots rang out and total chaos ensued. 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:09.960 And you guys have all seen what happened next, because 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:15.440 there are a thousand videos of it. So let's discuss 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.599 that fact for a second. If you were in that room, 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.320 you had no way of knowing what the status of 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:26.479 the shooter was, how many there were, or honestly, really anything. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.839 It was just utter chaos. And so during an active shooting, 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.719 these journalists are using their phones to find moments to 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.680 capture for clips. They were so concerned about getting a 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.360 video in a room with an active shooter that they 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:46.159 could have accidentally and quite literally filmed themselves being shot. 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:51.479 Many of those people have become so desensitized that fight 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:55.440 or flight became secondary to the opportunity of putting themselves 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.520 into the story, which ironically breaks the number one rule 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:04.200 of journals. And again, ironically enough, the shooter was a teacher. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.719 You have these people who are supposed to be teaching 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.880 our children the future of this country, and he's so 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.200 unhinged that he is able to teach children by day 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.279 and then attempt to murder the President of the United 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:24.880 States by night. And in his manifesto he starts by 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:29.240 contextualizing himself by saying, I am a citizen of the 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:33.800 United States of America. And while we may have big 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.400 problems with the legal immigration in this country, I have 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.800 to tell you we have an even bigger problem when 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.640 it comes to the systemic and doctrination and radicalization of 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:48.599 our own citizens. This is what got my husband killed, 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:54.960 This is what has led to three legitimate attempts on 0:06:55.040 --> 0:07:00.560 President Trump's life. And I can speak firsthand to that 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.080 unbearable toll that this must take on our first lady. 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.120 There has never been a president who has faced this 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:13.920 many assassination attempts in Americans' entire history, and after each one, 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.920 the reaction from the far left has been, at best 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.960 a shrug and in some cases, a sick disappointment that 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:28.200 the shooter was unsuccessful. We are all human beings, and 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:33.080 if you can, just if you can just pause and 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.960 just take a minute and ask yourself, how would you 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:43.400 feel if even just one person made cruel jokes about 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:47.960 the attempted murder of your loved one. That is what 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.840 Jimmy Kimmel did to the first lady. He said that 0:07:51.920 --> 0:08:00.680 she had the glow of an expected widow, of an 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:05.880 expected widow just forty eight hours before that nightmare almost 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:12.080 became a reality. And this culture we're living in absorbs 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:16.720 disagreement as a form of personal betrayal. It turns having 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:21.240 an opposing viewpoint into a moral crime worthy of punishment. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.800 And here's what I've realized through all of this, truly, 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:30.440 having lived through quite literal hell these past seven months, 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:34.560 if you strip someone of their humanity long enough, you 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.200 will arrive at the chilling conclusion that they don't deserve 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:43.720 to exist at all. Every morning I wake up to 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.200 a new headline lying about me. 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:47.760 I have. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:54.280 Comedians dressing up in whiteface. I have people saying I'm 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.360 not fit to be CEO, and I have canvass Owens 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:01.240 claiming I murdered my husband, and the list goes on 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:03.680 and on and on. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:10.560 There is a serious. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:17.560 Epidemic of dehumanization plaguing this country. The most unthinkable tragedies 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.880 have now become commonplace in our daily headlines, and yet 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:26.720 the media finds a way to conveniently explain away violence 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.880 this is what we're up against. This is what we're 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.079 up against. What is happening right now is something none 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.200 of us can afford to ignore. The evil forces working 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.360 to divide us, to distract us, and to pull us 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.440 apart has never been stronger. This is a moment for 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.640 Americans to come together and decide what kind of country 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.400 we are going to be before we lose our country altogether. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.560 In Romans, Chapter twelve, verse twenty one, it says, do 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.679 not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.160 And this is why my husband and created Turning Point USA, 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:06.000 so we could have civil discourse and debate and open dialogue, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.400 because when we stopped talking to each other, bad things happen. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.800 I am choosing to fight for America, for my children, 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.719 for your children, and for our humanity because we all 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.680 need to do our part, and by the grace of God, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.120 we will succeed and America will remain what she was 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.360 always called to be, a shining city on a hill, 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.000 a light to the world. So let me give you 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:34.880 a perfect example of how it's done. My husband did 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.600 it best and left us the blueprint on how to 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:42.640 have uncomfortable conversations with those who disagree, but. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:44.520 Here we go. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.640 So my sense today is on immigration. I think that 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.160 immigration contributes a lot to America. So my parents did 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.360 come here legally, and they right now are in the 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.679 process again and it takes a long time. No, they 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.720 came here legally, like they came with the RISA and 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.080 now they're renewing it and then to different process right now. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.839 But so I'm really religious. I'm Catholic. My parents grew 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.199 me up that way. And in Matthew two thirteen through fifteen, 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.600 it talks about how Jesus had to flee Nazareth or 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.400 no Bethlehem. Sorry, he had to flee because someone was 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.320 going to die and they were looking to kill him. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.280 And he had to flee his own country and leave 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.200 everything behind because an angel spoke to Mary and Joseph 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:25.520 that they should leave. So a lot of people do that. 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.360 That's why they immigrate to the United States. A lot 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.240 of people have to leave everything behind because not everyone 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:31.840 just wants to pack up all the things and leave 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:33.599 right now, I personally would hate if I had to 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:37.400 sell my car, my house, leave my parents, leave my friends, 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.520 and leave everyone. So I just want to know what 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.440 your stantus on that, just because in the Bible, it 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:42.319 talks about. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.840 That, right. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.120 So first of all, Jesus actually didn't emigrate. He stayed 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.240 within the confines of the Roman Empire because Egypt was 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.480 actually other under Roman jurisdiction. That's a separate point. But 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.280 there are plenty of verses that says you should welcome 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.120 the stranger, and so I will grant you that. I 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.280 guess the first point, the first point I would have 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:03.120 to ask is should immigration always benefit the home country? 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.880 I think so yes, And that is one thing that 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.960 I looked into. So there are immigrants right now working here, correct, 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.920 and they get some of their paycheck cut off right 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.280 because of Social Security and all those benefits. But they 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.120 don't get those benefits because they're illegal. 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.120 Do you mean legal or illegal immigrants? That distinction is 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:19.840 very important. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:21.960 Illegal you get those benefits. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:23.000 So let's just be clear. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.200 If they have a social Security number, how'd they get 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:29.880 that the right way? They stole it, don't You don't 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.520 get a social Security number as any illegal period, It 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.319 does not happen. They stole it. So that's an act 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.080 of theft. And so they stole an American social Security 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.320 number to be able to work here, which drives down wages, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.440 which drives down opportunity costs. But even beyond that, we 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.520 just have to look at their action. They were not 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.280 invited to come to this country. They broke in line, 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.200 they cut in line, and we should not reward line 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.320 cutters or border jumpers. We should reward people like your 0:12:56.360 --> 0:13:01.720 parents that actually came here legally to this country. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.760 Yeah. I understand that point, I really do. But sometimes 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.320 people generally need to leave their country because in like 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.000 my mother's case, for instance, there was like a terrorist 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.679 attack on my family and that's the reason my mom 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.040 had to come. And thankfully she did get it immediately. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.920 But now I've heard of so many stories where people 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.319 have to wait like ten years, twenty years, even thirty years. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.200 Like my grandma right now is trying to get the process, 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.959 and thankfully she is now, but it's taken her about 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.400 ten years now, and she makes enough money in her 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.200 country and she just wants to come here as a tourist. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.040 That's the main reason. And I do understand that. I 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.800 think that My main point is at how we should 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.960 implement more money into the immigration system because Trump's zero 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:44.080 tolerance policy that just felt cruel because there's a lot 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.280 of people here that are doing well and zero tolerance, 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.160 they just had to leave the country. I feel like 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:50.360 that was imfumente of him. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.680 Yeah, but it's not their country though, and that's the 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.720 So let me just like, here's it. If I went 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.200 to Mexico without being invited or allowed, and I took 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.000 a job and the Mexican government found out, what would 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:06.160 the Mexican government do to me? I'm not sure they 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:07.480 would send me back to America. 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.200 And why was the reason you left the US first? 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:11.400 So? 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:11.880 Reason? 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.200 That's an interesting thing. Is there ever a legitimate reason, 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.000 in your opinion to commit a crime? 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:18.760 No? 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.800 Well, then the reason doesn't matter because under that say, so, 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.000 can you rob a bank because you wish. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:25.560 You had more money? 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:26.040 No? 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:26.960 You work harder. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.040 Then why doesn't that moral standard applied immigration? 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.640 Because the system is it isn't doing its job. That's 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.720 why I think we should implement more money because there 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.360 is some people like I do get it. You know, 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.560 some people come here and then I do admit some 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.080 of them commit crime, but not all of them. 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.960 No, No, but they're all criminals if they came illegally, 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:48.720 that's the distinction. By definition, they're breaking federal law eight USC. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.320 Thirteen twelve. Just their presence here is against the law. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.920 Would you be okay welcoming in five hundred million people 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:55.760 into America? 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.800 That's why we which you implement the system to undercent Emis. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:58.520 No, you got to kake. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.720 Do you think five hundred million people would be too 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:01.280 many people? 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.520 Five hundred million? I don't even think that would fit 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:04.160 the United States? 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.040 I agree, And that's the point is that if everyone, 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.240 all of a sudden declared that their life was in danger, 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.120 we'd have to let in like all of Nicaragua, all 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.800 of Honduras, almost all of Venezuela, the standard all of 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.600 a sudden starts falling apart. And we find that people 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.920 lie about this, they deceive it. Here's my perspective. Why 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.520 don't we try to empower those people to make the 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.040 countries they're coming from greater and strong or else this 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.480 problem will actually never be fixed at the root level. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:30.720 Does that make sense? 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.880 It does make sense, and I wish it was that easy. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.320 So for instance, I am part Peruvian and in Peru, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.560 so they were having a presidential election and the president 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.080 who was going to win was better for the country 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.000 and would help out a lot more. But since it's corrupt, 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.760 they made the other president win. They sent him death threats, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.200 nearly almost killed him. He had to fake his death 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.640 and leave, and they jailed her. They jailed her completely, 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.120 and they let the guy win. That is why it's corrupt. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.120 It's hard to fix a country when there's no help 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.960 towards it. So Peru was. They were rooting for the 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.240 good president. They were rooting to build their system back up, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.240 but the other president it was rigged. It was completely rigged. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.280 So does it make it better or worse if millions 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.200 of people leave that country for Peru? 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.680 Can you, like, what do you mean by three million. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.520 People left Peru? Does Peru get greater or weaker? Stronger 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:23.000 or weaker? 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:27.200 Neither? 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:28.800 I mean, it's in a weak state right now. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.840 I mean, it's pretty obvious. I'm trying to even say 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.440 that mass immigration is. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:34.200 Bad for everybody. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.240 It's bad for America, and it's bad for the country 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.520 that people are leaving from. The only difference is that 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.119 they send back American money through remittances that actually subsidize 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.840 this entire thing. Let me ask one final question. If 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.680 somebody comes into America without invitation and they are illegal, 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:50.680 what do you think the penalty should be? 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.280 I think it's humane to look at their case and 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.280 why they had to leave everything they've ever known. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.520 We believe that we should send them back to their 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:00.320 country origin. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.719 I just want to make one more final point. So 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.399 I do understand that, But my final point is that 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.480 do you agree that we should implement more money to 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:12.360 the immigration so well? 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.480 I think we should have no immigrants in the country 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.040 for the next ten years. We have way too many 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:17.840 people in this country. And I'll prove it to you 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.480 here in California. Your hospitals are overrun, your schools are overrun. 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.720 Do you guys agree that you have a crowded state 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:30.600 right now? We are a California is a cluttered state 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:35.000 with social services that are being strained, and we need 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:39.200 a pause on all immigration in my opinion, to metaphorically 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.520 digest the major meal that we just ate, or else 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:47.720 we are going to have a major, major assimilation problem, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.560 cultural problem, cohesion problem, all sorts of issues. And I 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.439 know this is a provocative thing to say, but immigration 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.400 is something that you use as a way to benefit 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:57.920 the homeland. 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.280 You don't have to have immigration. 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.639 But just as an example, my parents came here, like 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.480 I said, legally zero dollars and they have benefited so 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.760 much of the country. They have made so much, like 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.199 one hundreds and thousand dollars. 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:10.800 Praise God. That's the American dream. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:12.479 It is and it's just like a hard thing. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.960 And I want American booring young people from UC Riverside 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.439 to also have that American dream and not have to 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:20.840 compete against foreigners for that. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:21.760 Thank you for your time. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:22.960 Can I say one point? 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:23.760 We have a long line? 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:24.960 Thank you really quick though. 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:25.879 Okay again, what is it? 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:26.240 Yeah? 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.040 Sorry, okay, I understand the American dream is hard. My 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:32.840 parents my mom was pregnant, working two jobs one day 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.600 and she sacrificed everything and now she has more money 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:36.560 than the average American. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.240 Praise God. That is the American dream. Thank you very much, 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:40.359 Thank you. 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.520 I want to talk about the debate of abortion, so 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:47.760 I know that it's something very controversial. Some people are 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.560 pro choice, some people are pro life. Before I start, 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.040 I want to make sure that I understand your opinion fully, 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.280 so I don't take you know what I've heard online? 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:57.840 What is your stance on abortion? 0:18:58.480 --> 0:18:59.760 Life begins at conception? 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.240 Okay, so where do you so? Conception? So is that 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:04.680 when sperm enters the egg? 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.280 Is that during six, when new DNA is formed. 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.320 Okay, when new DNA is formed. So the egg by 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.520 itself you don't think is anything? Sorry, the egg of 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:14.720 a woman by itself. 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.040 Do you think it's a it's something, but it's not 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:16.720 a life correct? 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:17.840 Okay, that's okay. 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.520 So my question is when you talk about abortion, why 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.639 you think you so, Why you support it, Why you 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.639 don't support it? Sorry, why you don't support it? What 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.200 do you use as your evidence? You use scientific evidence? 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:31.440 Do you talk about the Bible? 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.240 Do you use both mainly self scientific and self evident reason? 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.679 Okay? So are you someone who's a follower of the Bible. 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.040 I am, but that's not relevant to this discussion. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:42.280 But we could talk about it if you like. 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.520 I find irrelevant because when I'm going to talk about abortion, 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.440 there's there's quotes in the Bible that I think support 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:50.800 pro choice in my opinion. 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.960 Bible Exodus. 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:02.880 Exodus twenty one one twenty two through twenty five, when 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.840 men strive together and hit a pregnant woman so that 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.240 her child come out so miscarriage. But there's no harm 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.359 to the woman. The one who hit her shall surely 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.280 be fined, as the woman's husband shall impose on him, 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.160 and he shall pay as the judgees determined. But if 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.480 there is harm to the woman, you shall pay life 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.960 for life, foot for foot, burned for burn, wound for wound, 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:25.480 stripe for stripe. So I know that that can be 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.000 interpreted different ways. The Bible is can interpret him anyways, 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:33.440 different there's different types, different interpretations. But this says if 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.320 a person causes a miscarriage through a woman, that they 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:41.280 will pay for the abortion. So they they will pay, 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:43.560 another one will punish them. 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.040 That is not what this law says. But let me 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:47.159 us ask, are you a Christian? 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:47.680 Yes? 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:53.120 Okay? Then continue, So so you believe word of God? 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:54.200 Yes, okay, good? 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:55.000 Yes. 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:59.359 So it says that as the woman's husband, shal impose 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.560 on him and he shall pay as the judges determined. 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:05.119 So the judge is determined, and it's talking about the husband. 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.600 So therefore it's talking about a person, not God himself, 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:11.520 not his judgment. So it's saying, if someone has an abortion, 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:13.480 we have the right to choose what to do to them. 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.560 Right, And you say it was a miscarriage, not an abortion. 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.399 It says when man strive together and hit a pregnant woman, 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.840 so that's causing her to lose the baby. That's outside cause, 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.800 outside cause. Therefore, it could mean abortion, because some people 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:32.800 find that abbressive abortion is through violence such as hitting, 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:34.639 because not everyone has access. 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:36.960 To medical for them to kill the baby. 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:43.440 It's unclarified, so that I cannot tell you it's unclarified. However, 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.560 what I will say is that it says that it's 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:51.879 the judges determine, the husband determines, So God's not making 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:53.959 the choice for us what to do with the person 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.639 who does that to someone's child does that to their 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:57.280 own child. 0:21:57.880 --> 0:21:59.919 But it does say that if the woman. 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:03.119 Is home arms her herself, not the child, then they 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.240 are liable by God their life for her life, their 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:09.120 foot for her foot. So what I'm saying is if 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.359 somebody needs an abortion for health care, Let's say a 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.960 woman baby is not gonna make it, and if the 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.120 baby stays in her womb, she will die, and they 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:21.040 refuse her an abortion, they refuse her that health care 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:21.680 and she dies. 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:23.960 Should the doctor be liable under God? 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.480 First of all this those instances don't happen, So let's 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.000 just be clear. No, See, you guys are so propagandized 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.120 by this that only happens in a very rare case 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:34.199 of the breaking of the uteriation. 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:35.040 It does happen. 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:37.280 But no, but where the baby is already dead, And 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.240 that's the point, is that the baby is already dead. 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.879 That's a removal of a carcass of the baby. 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:42.960 No, it's not. 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.600 That's incorrect. No it's not. No, it's not. 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.680 A removal of a carcass of a baby. Is not 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:51.240 an abortion. Those are two technically different things. It is 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.840 not a DNA. It is not a DNA is something 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:57.200 completely different. But then, if you want to talk about scripture, 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.000 do you think we are bound to all six hundred 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:02.200 thirteen levitical laws? 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.000 Yes, if you're a follower of the Bible, you cannot 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:06.240 pick and choose what you follow. 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:10.639 Oh so you eat kosher? You cannot you eat kosher? No? Well, 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.880 I thought you were bound to all six hundred thirteen laws. 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.120 I'm not perfect. I'm sinner. Everyone hears a sinner. 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:17.840 But are we bound to it? Do you think Christian 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:18.639 should eat kosher? 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:22.520 Choose to follow the Bible? You cannot pick and choose. 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.199 What you of course, but we do believe in a 0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:26.640 New Covenant, Old Covenant. So there's three types of Old 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:30.959 Testament laws, right, there's ceremonial, there's civil and moral. So 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:34.040 ceremonial laws we do not honor civil we consider moral. 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:37.119 We upstate it. Guys, do humans decide what to follow 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:37.440 in God? 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:40.440 Because Christ is actual, It's not us, It's not humans. 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.280 So Paul actually authored in the Book of Colossians, that's 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:47.000 a human right inspired by the Holy Spirit, which wrote 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:52.200 the Bible. The ordinances of Moses are nailed to the cross. Secondly, 0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:54.800 Christ our Lord, repeated nine out of ten of the 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.240 nine out of ten of the ten commandments, and he said, 0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.320 all the laws of the Prophet hang upon the two 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.960 teachings of Bus nineteen and Deuteronomy six. But now I 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.960 equally have to challenge you with scripture in Luke one, 0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:12.600 when Elizabeth came in contact with Mary and both were babies, 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.440 what did it say that John the Baptist did. 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.399 I cannot tell you that he leapt? 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.359 Okay, do non babies leap? 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.040 I don't understand the question I'm. 0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:27.520 Going to be honest with. 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:31.320 Isn't it a baby then worthy of protection if they're leaping? 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:34.480 I suppose yes. 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.679 And it was the Greek word breafos, which literally means baby, 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:41.120 intentionally used throughout hold on and Jeremiah says, I knew 0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:43.280 you before you were in the womb in sa I 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:45.320 think one thirty nine. It's one of the most intricate 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:49.240 verses about the detail of our formation process as human beings. 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:53.800 And finally, because of science, because of biology, we know 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.320 that human life begins at that spark of new DNA, 0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:59.000 and God says do not murder. And it's incumbent on 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:00.840 Christians that therefore tech that life. 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:04.679 Okay, So my my biggest question is I'm not saying 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.840 that all abortion is valid. I feel like that's a 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:11.080 for everyone to decide. But in the most even if 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.480 it's very small percentage, in the very small percentage, that 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.960 a baby is alive, but it has to be aborted 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:18.000 for the sake of the mother. 0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:21.240 What do you think see section? What is a C section? 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.560 A C section is when you cut them with mother's. 0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:25.959 Wait, why don't they do that instead of the abortion? 0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:28.280 Because it could be equally as dangerous. 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.399 Wrong, it's much safer than an abortion and quicker. 0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:31.400 Do you have evidence? 0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:33.879 I mean, yes, it's it's it's self evident. 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:34.719 Can you tell me? 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.480 I mean again, I there's plenty of people, he has 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.760 plenty of people that are in medicine can tell you, 0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:43.560 but like to be very clear, think about it. Every 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.399 hospital is equipped to do sea sections. You have to 0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.840 go to a specific place for an abortion and a 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.640 C section. One third out of everyone in this audience 0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.520 was born by C section. C sections save lives, they 0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.359 do not terminate lives. And so when they say we 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:00.760 must abort the baby, thanks to modern technolog that's actually 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.080 a false choice. You could take the baby out of 0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:04.960 the environment and try to save its life as a 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:05.760 cesarean section. 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.280 What if when the sea section happens, the baby's not 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:09.880 able to survive on its own no matter what. 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.320 Okay, Well, then that's a separate circumstance. It's like saying, 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.320 if the baby has a heart attack after the sea section, 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.840 that's not a reason not to terminate it. What do 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.520 you mean if you have to give everybody a chance 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.119 at life, you don't kill the baby in the womb 0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.840 just because you think that it's going to well, it 0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.000 could hurt the mother. You take it out of that environment. 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:32.439 Okay, But what I'm saying is if they take the 0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.120 baby out and they know it's not gonna survive regardless, 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:36.000 how they. 0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:37.160 Know that post twenty two weeks. 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:41.000 You don't know that there's miracles that happen every day 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:44.840 in the neonatal live in the neonatal intensive care unit. 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.399 There's miracles that happen every day in. 0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.080 Niic u's And I agree, there's definitely they don't know 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:52.359 one hundred percent for sure, but there's definitely probability through science, 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.040 through biology that they know, hey, this is more. 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:55.800 Likely going to happen. 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.440 We don't do morals on probability. 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:03.160 We don't saying it's morality. I'm saying probability of a baby's. 0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.080 Going to survive or doesn't matter. You don't terminate a 0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:06.960 life based on a probability of survival. 0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:11.000 Oh you do. Interesting? 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.080 You guys murder people based on probability of survival. 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:16.000 Interesting. 0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.359 So somebody on a ventilator should just be murdered. I mean, 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.760 it's such incredible morality, which we keep someone. 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.080 On a ventilator for the entirenent of everything else. 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.920 Then it depends. There's two different things. There's no more 0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:29.720 and not yet. Once you reach the level of no more, 0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.480 human interventions can improve this person's life or bring them 0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.600 back to a full life. That is a separate moral 0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.280 decision than not yet. When a human being is that 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.360 not yet, which they are in the womb, you must 0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.280 do everything you can to make sure they get life. 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.320 When a human being is that no more, it's a 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.400 completely separate moral dimension and decision to make no more 0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.280 and not yet are the ways to look at pro 0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:49.760 life DEAs. 0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:50.240 That makes sense. 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.520 Yes, that makes sense. Well, thank you for debating with me, 0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.280 Thank you very much. Agree to disagree. 0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.600 I have a friend named Thomas Sheety. He is the 0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:00.240 founder of an organization called Atheist for Liberty. He is 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:04.359 openly conservative, but he's mostly interested in atheists activism and 0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:09.280 normalizing atheism in all sex, including the conservative movement. He 0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.760 seems to be under the impression that a lot of concernism, 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.639 including you, are more hesitant to work with atheist organizations. 0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:16.840 Is there any truth to that? 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:18.159 Yes and no. 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:19.840 I mean, if you're an atheist and you want to 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.480 be part of the conservative movement, go ahead, but you 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:26.040 must be an honest atheist and acknowledge that morality is 0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:30.320 definitionally subjective. Without a belief in God, you cannot be 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.600 an atheist and believe an objective morality. It is an impossibility, 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.600 and true atheists will acknowledge us at some point, you 0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.120 have an ought claim, well, things ought to be a 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.840 certain way. We as Christians are we that believe in 0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:45.840 the divine We have is claims that there murder is wrong, 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.520 whereas an atheist will say, well, murder ought to be wrong, 0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.880 because you can't have an objective definition if there is 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.720 not a divine eternal power over you. So look, if 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.560 an atheist wants to fight alongside of us to end 0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.440 abortion or to try and end the ma s occurring 0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.320 of our kids, that's called gender affirming care. And or 0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.440 if an atheist wants to march alongside of us to 0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:08.479 say no men in female sports, they're more than welcome 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.200 to be able to do that. But atheist for liberty 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:13.880 is an interesting phrase because I don't believe you can 0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:17.080 have liberty without God, because liberty is not man's idea, 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.760 it is God's idea. That's just my own personal belief, 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:21.880 and it's also the belief of everything that built this nation. 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.160 But yes, I'm I know a lot of good atheists. 0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.160 The question, though, is how do you know they're good. 0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.520 It's because you're appealing to a moral authority above just 0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.840 the secular material realm, one that is transcendent. 0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:35.200 We would believe given by God. 0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.600 Well, I don't believe in objective morality. I do know 0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.320 there are plenty of atheists who are moral objectivist or. 0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.720 Are you an atheist? Sorry interrupt, but oh yeah, yeah, okay, cool? Please, 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:47.640 So let me just can I ask you a question? 0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:49.000 And I don't mean I know this is your first 0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:50.239 time at the mic, so I'm just going to try 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:51.040 to be tender. 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:51.240 In doing this. 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.120 I appreciate So you don't believe an objective of morality, right, 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.440 I personally don't. Okay, was the Holocaust objectively wrong? 0:29:58.040 --> 0:29:58.760 Objectively no? 0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.720 Would have been better than how because most people won't 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:02.400 want that to happen. 0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:06.800 So that's where that's where we are on different planets, 0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:09.320 and that's okay. I'm not trying to make fun of you. 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:10.800 I'm trying to be graceful in the way that we're 0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:15.240 going about this. Do you think Hitler was objectively evil? 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.040 No, because it's subjective. 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.240 But I just hope all of you guys understand he's 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.680 being an honest atheist to your credit, because as an atheist, 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.320 you're not allowed to say anything is objectively right or wrong. 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.760 I come from a worldview that when you butcher six 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.280 million people that is objectively wrong, no matter what. And 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.160 it's very important. It's a very important truth claim because 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.360 when you do not have objective truth anchoring your society, 0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.320 then it becomes a power struggle. If you do not 0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.000 have truth, then power will reign. Whether you get the 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.960 most amount of power then ends up having the most 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:55.040 amount of say over society. We believe what is objectively right, true, good, 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.360 and beautiful should be transcendent over society. 0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.640 Your thoughts, So, do you believe objective moralesy specifically comes 0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:01.160 from the Bible? 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:02.320 Yes and no. 0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.560 It's also it's in nature, and the Bible explains nature. 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:08.800 So objective morality can be discovered in many different cultures 0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.760 and societies, pointing towards what we believe is the ultimate 0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:12.480 objective truth. 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:13.880 Jesus Christ C. S. 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.600 Lewis explained this the best in his book Abolition of Man, 0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.959 which is that almost every religion talks about a certain 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:23.320 way to live, a dow or a path that we 0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:27.680 should be on. And so more more simply than just 0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.880 the Bible, we believe in what the founders believed, which 0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.320 is an ethical monotheism, that there is one God, he 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.600 has a general way that he wants you to live. 0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:40.760 For example, murdering is bad, kidnapping is wrong, defense of 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.960 the innocent, and we should do our best to try 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.360 to live alongside of that path. 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:48.000 Okay, well, I think those are very interesting examples. You 0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.160 bring up the Founders, you bring up Hitler. But Hitler 0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:52.720 was his help proclaim Catholic, and he called Nazism and 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:54.200 the Christian movements. 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:56.800 Yeah, I would be careful saying that he was. He 0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:58.000 was not. That's okay, you. 0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.520 Call himself a Catholic, he said, he's as Ely said 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.240 in nineteen twenty seven, our movement as Christian. 0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:02.760 They had on the. 0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.880 Belt buckles God on our side. Yet they then swear 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.960 to the Almighty God. Atheists were not trusted to be 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:09.720 in the SS. 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:12.400 Even if I grant you that, despite the fact that 0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.720 he killed a lot of pastors and priests, and there 0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.400 of course you can pervert things in the name of God, 0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.320 no one denounces that. Just as a side note, though 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.040 far more people died under the banner of atheism than 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.880 Christianity in the twentieth century. Mao was an atheist, Stalin 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.880 was an atheist. Paul Pott was an atheist. Believing in 0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.320 no God actually led to the destruction, the murder of 0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:34.840 well over one hundred million people. 0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:35.880 And that's fine. 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.320 So again, if atheists want to come alongside us as 0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.080 conservatives and fight for what is good, that is great. 0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:44.920 But I will never acknowledge that atheists can tell me 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.720 what is objectively good. They can only give me a preference. 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.840 They cannot tell me what is right, and preferences eventually 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.400 will lead you towards moral and societal decline. 0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.520 Okay, So I think he just listed a bunch of communists, 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.920 and it's worth acknowledging the vast enjoy of atheists are 0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:02.959 not communists, just like the vast majority of Christians are 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.440 not theocrats who don't support the divine right. It's also 0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:09.160 worth acknowledging that the founders who were actually inspired by 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:12.680 Enlightenment values, not by the Bible. America's found is a 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.800 second nation. We were the first quote unquote gallis constitution. 0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.520 Yeah again, I've done this so many times, so I 0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:21.200 don't know if we want to waste our time doing this. 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.240 But fifty five out of fifty six of the signers 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.240 of the declaration were Bible believing church attending Christians. Nine 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:27.800 out of thirteen of the states of the time and 0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.560 ratification require a declaration of faith in order for you 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.200 to serve in the states we were. Our birth certificate, 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.760 which is the Mayflower Compact, said explicitly we are here 0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.960 to spread Christianity throughout the land. It was the first 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.880 Great Revival that led to the American Revolution of Jonathan 0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.760 Words and Jonathan Mayhew and George Whitfield that preached all 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.200 across the Eastern seaboard. John Adam seamlessly said, the Constitution 0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.400 is written solely for a moral and religious people. It's 0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.680 wholly inadequate for the people of any other. We were 0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.040 a Christian nation that was able to embrace the idea 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.440 of a free society. God has mentioned four times in 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.000 the Declaration of Independence. Not only that, Jesus Christ is 0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.280 mentioned in the Declaration Deependence where it says we appeal 0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.560 to the divine Judge of the Universe, which of course 0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.560 is a direct appeal to Jesus in the Book of Revelation. Yes, 0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:10.040 there were rationalist Enlightenment values that informed some of the founders, 0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.920 but it irrefutably was a Christian nation. Maryland was Catholic, 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:18.279 Pennsylvania was Quaker. Almost every state had their own specific 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.719 type of Christian preference. The idea of an atheist or 0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.759 not believing in any god, was an idea that was 0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.080 so foreign to the founders. Even Thomas Jefferson, the great deist, 0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:31.280 he revered the Bible, albeit with you know, some significant edits. However, 0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:35.400 the idea of believing in no cosmological or no axiological 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:39.719 or no teleological or no optological being would be a 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.000 concept that our founding fathers and not just find form, 0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:45.080 They would find it extraordinarily dangerous. Why because the French 0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.560 Revolution was happening simultaneously as the American Revolution, which was 0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:53.439 explicitly atheist. They actually recreated their own gods and had 0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.480 they said, we are going to appeal to what the 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.000 God of reason. And this is my final contention, is 0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.400 that when I talked to atheists, the French rebel is 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.960 a great example. They literally tried to change the Gregorian 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.440 calendar to a ten day week. They went and imprisoned 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:07.799 people of faith, they put priests in jail, all these 0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:09.440 different sorts of things, and they said, we are going 0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.520 to appeal to the God of reason. Well, how did 0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.680 that work out? It worked out with the guillotine and 0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:16.000 the slaughter of tens of thousands of people. The French 0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:19.760 Revolution was one of the greatest disasters in human recorded history. 0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.520 Contrast that with the American Revolution. Why did the American 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.000 Revolution create the greatest nation ever to exist in the 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.200 history of the world and the French Revolution resulted in 0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:28.839 a lot of blood and even the killing of their 0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.920 own once leader, Maximilian Robespierre. It's because we were anchored 0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.560 on Christian ideas. If you are not anchored on Christian ideas, 0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:37.680 then don't be surprised and all of a sudden there 0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:39.920 is no fruit to the harvest that you're trying to create. 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.320 I'm an atheist, so I disagree with your religious claims. 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:44.480 Do you believe in absolute truth? 0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.560 I'm not sure you can provide me this positive evidence 0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.560 that there is absolute truth. So the answer would be, 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:52.760 I'm not sure. 0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.560 Are you absolutely not sure? 0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:56.520 I'm not sure if I'm absolutely not sure. See, this 0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:58.040 works if you say no, But it doesn't work if 0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.200 you bought them out in I don't know question right, No, But. 0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.040 Saying you're not sure, you are not even sure if 0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:05.880 you're not shirt, So at some point you're just always 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:06.799 have to make a truth claim. 0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.880 Yet, no, you can just be not sure about everything 0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:10.480 all the way down. I don't see why you can't. 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.080 And my answer would be, I think truth is instrumentalist 0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.040 in theory. I think it's the thing we choose pragmatically 0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.399 for the purposes of discussion. I think you can say, yeah, 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.560 I think truth exists pragmatically. Regardless of that, I don't 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:21.399 see how you get to God. 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:22.000 Are you alive? 0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:22.960 Huh? 0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:23.560 Are you alive? 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:24.799 I think I'm alive. 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:26.320 Yeah, I think you're life. 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:27.560 Yeah. 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:29.760 Is the sun? Is the sun shining? 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:31.120 I think it's shining. 0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:32.520 Yeah. 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.319 From my frame of reference, it is shining. Notice Notice 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.719 how none of this I mean, so, notice how you've 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.640 gotten no steps closer to proving God. 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.520 No, I'm asking questions. Man, okay, yeah, but are you 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:44.160 sure we did it? 0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:45.600 Yeah, I'm sure. 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:47.359 Are you sure? 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.480 I'm sure in the practice God, I'm I'm sure in 0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.360 the pragmatic instrument Are you that we did it in 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.120 the pragmatic instrumental as sense, Absolutely sure. I see truth 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:55.840 as a utility. 0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:57.560 So there is a truth that's absolute. 0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.880 No, it's it's instrumentally you just it was absolutely No, 0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.640 absolutely sure in the instrumentalist sense of the word truth. 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.400 This is a philosophical tradition that dates back hundreds of 0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:07.480 years instrumentalism. 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.120 Yeah, which, of course we don't subscribe to obviously. So 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.000 do you believe that murder is objectively wrong. 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.080 Epistemologically objective or ontologically objective? 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:17.960 Morally? 0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:20.480 See you didn't answer the question. 0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.880 But both both epistemologically and ontologically. But for the purpose 0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:24.760 of discussion from. 0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:26.719 Okay, so by what you mean? No, I don't think 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:27.400 it's objective. 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.719 Was Hitler a bad person objectively? 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:31.840 No? 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.520 If you mean by by the way, by the way, 0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.880 wait wait wait wait wait. 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:41.399 No, but he's being honest at its core, atheists cannot. 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.160 Say can I make the claim? 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:43.359 Now? 0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:47.320 Notice who here is relying on feelings and knocked facts. 0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.720 Your argument is I feel that Hitler was objective? 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:50.359 No I know? 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.239 No, no, you feel that way? Can you provide me 0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.200 evidence of how you know? Can you provide me evidence 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:55.360 that morality is objective? 0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:59.160 No? Of course I can, because well, first of all, 0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.600 morality is both reason and revelation, and it's built within 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:02.799 to us that murder is wrong. 0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.080 Yeah, okay, where's your evidence of that? Is that a 0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:07.960 that's a claim, not evidence. That's a claim. 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.640 Okay, we could, we could spend multiple hours, but in 0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:11.640 the Western tradition. 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.879 So you notice how you're saying by tradition, by by 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.239 on the standards. But I just want all claims of 0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:18.360 non truth value hold on. 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:18.880 Yes they are. 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.120 We believe that truth was revealed to us. 0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:22.160 We believe claim. 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.160 But by God, hold on, but let me let me 0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.560 we can get there. You can keep on interrupting us. Okay, 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.560 but let me prove to you how silly your viewpoint 0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:33.520 is and how self evidently wrong? Is it objectively wrong 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:34.320 to kids? 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:43.440 When you say objective? What I mean by objective? Once again? 0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:54.359 Once again? Can I you and I just notice how 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.880 you still haven't given me dispositive evidence and reality's objective. 0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.600 You're merely saying my answer is I feel that way. 0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:01.000 I feel that way. 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:02.480 No, it's objective. 0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:05.800 It's objectively wrong to the laws of nature of nature, 0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:08.360 the self evident nature of existence. 0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:10.560 Where's your proof that itself? Show me the logical proof 0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:11.240 that it'sself evidence? 0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.279 Okay, it's it's in your reason that God gave you 0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.240 in the consciousness. 0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:16.279 To prove that God gave it to me. 0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:20.120 Okay, but again, your existence is proof of that. You're 0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.360 again we can get back down to the first principles 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:23.600 of this. 0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:25.920 But again but you don't want to because you know 0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:28.120 it doesn't look good. No, it looks actually really good 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.720 because it's built within evidence, built within. 0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.400 Again, interrupting does not make you right. 0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:34.920 So you keep repeating your point. 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:36.600 No I don't, So let me ask you a question 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.600 in closing. Since you can't objectively say that Hitler was 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:44.000 bad or that child is wrong, So how did the 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:47.680 universe come into an existence? I don't know, okay, but 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:49.640 science says that it was a big bang or a 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.920 beginning point, right, okay, So using logic, which you believe. 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.480 This is the colomn cosmological home on. 0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:58.680 Again, you keep interrupting using using logic, If space, time, 0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:02.720 and matter, okay, at a starting point, then logically shouldn't 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.840 something outside of space, time, and matter have started those things? 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:07.680 How do you know that cause is personal? How do 0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.000 you know that cause is worth praying to anything? 0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:10.800 That's not the question? 0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.279 Wait, okay, sure there is a cause? Oh that causes God? 0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:17.160 Because it's outside of space. You believe in different things 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:18.920 about God. You think that God is personal. 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:20.280 That's not what we're debating. 0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:24.560 We're arguing about God religion. 0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.360 Hold on, no, no, we're not debating. We're debating whether or not 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:27.080 there's a God or not. 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.520 No, the Christian God. I said religion that you're a 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.400 religious person. You said, Christian in nature, you follow religious tradition. 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:33.600 Calm down, you said you're an atheist. 0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.360 We know God, God historically a quitness, even defines it 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:38.120 this way, is a personal God. You still haven't gotten 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:39.880 to me to prove that it's personal. I'm happy to 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:41.560 get to that. Okay, then get to it. 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.760 Look, here's here's what I find with atheists. They don't 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.600 want to worship or acknowledge God because many atheists think 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.640 they are God. And you and body that really well. 0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.040 I didn't know you were a mind reader, Charlie. This 0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:52.600 is news to me. 0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.160 It's not a mind reader. I can tell by your behavior. 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:55.640 I will say this. 0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.720 I hope that you give your life to Jesus Christ. 0:40:57.800 --> 0:40:58.719 I hope you do. 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:01.800 I hope you can. I hope you can find. 0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.800 You know, what's interesting, there is evidence, there is evidence 0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:06.520 that Jesus hold on last thing, do you believe Jesus 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:08.080 Christ was a real historical figure? 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:08.439 Yes? 0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:11.360 Do you believe that the Gospels are historically accurate and 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.240 we improve them with archaeological evidence? 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:16.680 Some parts are some parts are Some parts are metaphors, 0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:19.560 some parts are allegory, some parts are literal. It depends. 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:23.440 Some parts are attempts at history. Which book or gospel? 0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:27.279 Using rational analysis? Why would the disciples lie about the 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:28.280 resurrection of Christ? 0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:30.560 Okay, we can talk about this people. They can be 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.359 mistaken mistakenly wrong about it. 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.120 So they would be mistakenly wrong up to the point 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:35.359 where they get marty. 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.080 The whole point, the whole point of being mistakingly wrong 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:38.840 about something. 0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:40.400 Is you believe it's true all the way up to 0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:41.080 the point of death. 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.439 The whole point of being mistakenly wrong about something. 0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.440 I just want to make sure I understand your position. 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.160 Your position is that the twelve disciples who knew Christ best, 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.000 saw him die, and then they all believe the mistaken 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.680 conspiracy for the rest of their life. Yes, all of 0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:55.200 them together as a conspiracy. 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:59.160 Yes, yes, there is no first tund account from the 0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.160 five hundred Gospels are all written by these people. People 0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.000 have died for crazy claims in the past that we 0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.200 know aren't true. These are all fast about this as 0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:06.840 not correct. 0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:07.240 Okay. 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.040 One of the Gospels was written by one of his 0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:10.440 closest associates, Matthew. 0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:11.320 The next collector. 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:13.680 Luke was a fact fighter that was hired. 0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.279 I didn't say the Gospels were written by them. I 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.520 said there's no evidence from the five hundred that he 0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:18.960 appeared to there's no first hand accounts. 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:20.480 Again, that's not correct. Thank you for your time. We'll 0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:20.839 get to next. 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:21.879 Okay, you can, you can. 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.720 We will pray for you. Thank you. Be respectful, guys, 0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:30.320 you can do what he wants. Oh can I start now. 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.040 Nice to meet you, Charlie. I'm a big fan. I 0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.719 think you're right beautiful man. I admire you physically. But 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:41.319 uh no, no homo, no homo, no homo. I did 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.279 have a question. Something I don't find very interesting about you. 0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.840 Something I find kind repulsive is that I believe you 0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:49.920 said that the Civil Rights Act was bad and that 0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:54.920 we shouldn't have that. Okay, well, thank you. I appreciate that. 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.000 I don't like you as much as Charlie though. First, 0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.879 So what's your name? Oh? Oh, sorry, I don't want 0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:02.160 to be like filmed and stuff too. I'm anonymous number 0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:07.480 one anonymous guy. Okay, well, hello, nice to meet you, anonymous, 0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:08.759 Thank you, thank you. Nice to meet you too. 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.160 Yeah, I believe in part of the essence of the 0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.160 Civil Rights Act went went too way too far, way 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:13.640 too wide. 0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:15.520 Oh, how they go too far? Well? 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.800 For example, it created an entire civil rights leviathan that 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:19.000 gave us affirmative. 0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.759 Action civil rights leviathan. What do you mean? Yes? 0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.880 So if you can let me finish three words in sorry. 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.480 It allowed the Department of Justice to go after people 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:29.440 that have different skin color aka white people, and prevent 0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.360 them from getting jobs in college admissions. 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.960 You have a job. I'm sorry, you have a job. No, 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:35.560 you're you're right, I do right. 0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:39.200 But just until Trump came around, until these Supreme Court decisions, 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.200 thanks to the Civil Rights Act, if you have white 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.120 skin color, it's much harder to get into a college 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:45.960 than if someone has black skin color, much harder. You 0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.600 have to have higher test scores. It's a much harder pool, 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.799 largely thanks to the precedent set by the Civil Rights Act. 0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.960 Not to mention all the trans stuff that we're seeing, 0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.680 We're seeing men be able to win trophies and medals 0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.080 from women across the country, and they use the Civil 0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:01.000 Rights Act to justify Okay. 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:02.359 I think I see where you're coming from. So you 0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.160 think that it's harder for white people because of black 0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.520 people they have, they can have lower text scores. Again, 0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.360 and it's not what I think that's what you're saying. Okay, 0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:12.680 all right, well, well I guess well I would say too. 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.600 I think perhaps you're familiar with the term equity, right, 0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:21.439 where different people have different circumstances. It's I reject. Okay, Okay, 0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.920 whether you rejected or not, I think it's a prescient, 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:28.239 uh concept in this argument, because what you have to 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.600 understand is that when you're, for example, you're born in 0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:32.640 like a black nambor, you're born like O block or 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:37.719 something like a very very like is oh well, if 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.560 you're if you're if you're born there, if you're born 0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:41.400 in a very poor area like that, but like very 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.440 lot opportunity, very very poor schools of very low ratings 0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.360 with average test scores much lower. When you're in that environment, 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.279 you have the whole system up against you, right. So 0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.960 it so when you say in that cop circumstance, when 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.320 you're facing the whole I guess Leviathan of systemic racism 0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:59.359 sold you say that. Sorry, let me discrudge it when 0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:01.600 you say it's Fan two for example, lower at the 0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:05.160 standard because knowing that their circumstances were like that perhaps 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:08.200 based on what they had was productive to them, they 0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:11.320 had the correct amount of merit to get into a school. Okay, 0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.359 so are you a student here? I'm guessing you oh yeah. 0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:13.560 Yeah. 0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:14.840 I'm saying are you pretty good student? 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:15.000 Oh? 0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:16.200 Yeah, I would say a good student. I have a 0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.600 pretty high GP. Okay, can you give your GP to 0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:20.680 her because she's a woman of color? Please? Oh you 0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:23.160 wan to give you a? I mean what would you 0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:24.920 be willing to do that? I'm not sure. Yeah, sure 0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:26.560 you could be good? You cool with that? Yeah? 0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:29.000 I get what you mean. I want you tell her 0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:31.440 or like by force, so swapping. Let me tell what 0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.520 I'm gonna do by force, white man. Okay, I'm gonna 0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:36.400 take your g P A. I'm gonna give it to 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.160 a woman of color. You're cool with that? 0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:38.759 Uh? 0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:40.400 I mean yeah? I can just work back up like 0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:43.319 I No, there's no working back up. I can pull 0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.560 myself up on my bootstown. No, there's no working back up. 0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.000 I mean, you can't work back that low point of conservatism. 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:49.400 I'm gonna I'm gonna keep on taking it from you 0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:51.359 because that's equity, and you're cool with that. 0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:54.200 What does that? That's just equity in practice isn't taken. 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.000 Equity is giving applying the equal standard. 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:57.920 If you give, how do you get you must take? 0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.160 And then you get wait, what do you mean that 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:01.840 which is given must first be taken? 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:03.040 Well, what's being taken? 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.319 When this case grades from you to grades to her. 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.319 That no one's taking my grades? Though, that's not what 0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.279 that's not what a firm of it's hold on someone 0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:11.560 takes your grades. Hold on a second. 0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:13.239 If you only have so many you only have so 0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.359 many positions at University of South Florida to come in, right, 0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:18.919 there's there's a there's a there's a set number. Let's 0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:21.759 say it's twenty thousand people, okay, And we're gonna say 0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.920 we're gonna lower the test standards so that somebody that's 0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.520 a woman of color can come in, and therefore it's 0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:29.440 harder for you. So it's a higher bar for you, 0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:33.239 lower bar for them. Definitionally, that's a redistribution of test 0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.440 scores for somebody else, just by the definition. 0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:37.800 And you're okay with that? Uh, well, I guess I 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:39.520 guess I would ask then if we were to do 0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.400 what you're doing, I guess that's what's happening Onundre Trump right, Well, no, 0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:45.439 it's actually been happen the last forty years. Okay, actually, yeah, whatever. Okay, 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.680 So when you say that, if you do that, then 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:49.640 well black of people aren't again in the school, and 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.080 then they won't be able to uplift themselves. They won't 0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:53.080 be to have prosperous families, they won't be able to 0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:56.160 you know, equalize the economic status because you need to 0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:57.680 give them a little jump starck. You know you have 0:46:57.719 --> 0:46:59.120 a car, right, how is that? How is that? 0:46:59.120 --> 0:46:59.279 Well? 0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.279 Now yeah, no, no, no, no, no, it's good, but no, 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:03.000 how is that worth? 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.480 The last forty years we've had robuster firm in action. Oh, 0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.759 we've got hiring practices. Has it made Black America more successful? 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.800 I can answer that easily. It's because it Oh sorry, 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.160 it's because sorry what am I? What am I going forward? 0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:20.880 I don't know. You're a funny guy. So what happened 0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.040 is even after the civil rights side, you're under you 0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.120 know what I believe I mean the term is massive resistance. 0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.560 It was a movement in UH after the Bridasus wth 0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:33.040 education in Virginia were essentially the legislature which was still 0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:36.319 white supremacist, which is still extremely racist. They decided that. No, 0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:40.440 we're gonna do everything that feasibly possible within our means 0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:42.680 to stop black people from going to white schools. You 0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:44.640 even see this in uh was I believe it's a 0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.680 little rock nine right. Even after it was legalized at 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:51.239 the state level, white supremacist mobs still mobilized to prevent it. 0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.800 So even if the facto it's God did it still exists. 0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:57.359 Let me ask you a very simple question. Yeah from 0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.600 you keep on throwing around, got you? What is racism? 0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:05.040 Is racism? That's a very complicated question. But no, it's not. 0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:07.600 I mean, there's a simple answer, and then there's the 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:08.600 highly theoretical answer. 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:09.280 Me simple. 0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:14.120 The simple answer, well, essentially be because because we have 0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.440 like different skin colors, that he's treated a different way 0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:19.440 than me, he has like a different bringing to me. No, no, no, 0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:23.839 but what is different? Oh, it's discrimination based on the colors, 0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:25.440 based on the car, the skin. You got it, thank you. 0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:26.400 So isn't it racist? 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.360 Then to then penalize white people to come into college 0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.279 or to get jobs based on the color of their skin, 0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:35.600 wouldn't that be racist? So you're arguing for a very 0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.600 racist policy, which is that we should actively discriminate against 0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:40.520 people based on the color of their skin, which is 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.720 affirmative action and DEI in practice. 0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:44.360 I just don't. I just disagree with the premise that 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:49.080 you can do like anti white racism because uh because wait, 0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:52.600 can you be racist against white people? No? Bro, I'm 0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:53.080 a cracker. 0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:53.279 Bro? 0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:54.680 What now you can't be racist? 0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:55.480 Brother? 0:48:55.480 --> 0:49:00.920 There's subny crackers here right, there's their bright there's a clip. 0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:08.720 Well what do you get that you could do political 0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:10.520 violence to be bro? Like, why you're saying that to me? 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:12.040 You're making me scared? 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:15.279 Uh? 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:16.880 Ohky, So let me tell you what we believe. 0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:19.200 Because you tell us what you believe, your worldview is 0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:23.160 indistinguishable from the KKK that you want. That you want 0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:25.520 to organize the world based on skin color. 0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:27.560 We want to organize the world based. 0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:30.480 On merit and character, based on how hard you work, 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.920 what you bring to the table. I believe it's destructive 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.160 and wrong to say that people are gonna be organized 0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.719 or have their future set based on the color of 0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:43.640 their skin. I think it's tribalistic. I think it is divisive, 0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:46.480 and I think it hurts the excellence of a country. 0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:48.399 You asked a question, well, how are we gonna help 0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:50.720 other communities? You know how you help other communities stop 0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:53.839 pandering to them and start treating them like individuals made 0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:56.600 in the image of God, not tribes to be organized 0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:57.680 for political purposes. 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:01.319 Okay, So do you think like Trump is a now 0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:03.759 not as president, now that racism is gone now because 0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:05.800 Jump is back, we're no longer pandering, right, do you 0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:08.800 think that the conditions of a of black people of 0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:10.479 like do you think, oh, block, is it gonna become 0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:12.080 like how much a nice place? Do you think that? 0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.880 Do you think that these very downturned sort of a 0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:19.000 black neighborhoods that have been sort of left beyond do 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.040 you think they're gonna become revitalized now? Is that what 0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:22.719 you think is gonna happen? Yeah, they'll do better, for sure. 0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:25.440 You think they do better now we've stopped helping them, 0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:26.160 they could do better. 0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:26.880 Well. 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:29.120 See, that's an interesting thing because it seems like contre 0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:30.640 dictory that may just do basic logic. 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:33.160 Well, Actually, Black Americans under Donald Trump in the first 0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:36.279 term saw the greatest economic renaissance that they saw since 0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:38.560 the nineteen fifties. Do you want to think Obama race is 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:44.799 lowest unemployment, revitalization, amazing investment in their communities, opportunity zones. 0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:46.120 I mean that's when we had the firm of action 0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:47.320 and they went to be bad. 0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:49.399 Well again, we actually get rid of firm of action 0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:52.279 now now, but I'm talking about before. Those are unrelated 0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:53.120 things though, just you know. 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:55.319 You think that they don't see them. I'm related to me. Well, 0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:59.360 firm action is addressing racism. Theyve action is looking so 0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:01.920 I'm sorry, I'm know you are. That's okay, I'm sorry. 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:06.040 Affirmative action is largely federal government hiring practices and the 0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.480 adjacent institutions. I think that all communities will do even 0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:12.840 better when we stop living under the soft bigotry of 0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:17.239 low expectations. Inherent in your argument is that we have 0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.360 to pander to certain communities based on the call of 0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.840 their skin because they can't do as well as white people. 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:22.800 I reject the premise. 0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:24.560 I think that we should try to say I don't 0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:26.719 care about the call your skin, I care about what 0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.200 you bring to the table, and stop pandering the people 0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:32.520 based on special criteria points and acceptance the college saying 0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:34.279 that we're going to make it easier for one group 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:35.640 and harder for another group. 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:38.400 I don't think it's that, but it's understanding. Okay, but 0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.239 do you think that based on that. 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:43.520 Do you think that we should have black only dormitories 0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:44.560 in America? No? 0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:45.319 Why would I want that? 0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:48.040 Okay, well, there's hundreds of schools that have those actually, and. 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:50.440 Black only, like they're not white people are not allowed. 0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.120 You, white people are not allowed to white where not 0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:56.520 allowedrect we have black only graduation ceremonies across the country. 0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:59.080 Well, those are from a well I believe those are 0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:01.319 most likely like eight pc us right, like. 0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:05.319 The University of Michigan has, Harvard has one. So we're 0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:08.000 agreeing that that is wrong. That is the first's extension 0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:10.719 of hype hyper race obsession. So you have to you 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:12.080 could you could choose one or the other. You can 0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:15.800 be race obsessed or merit obsessed. We as conservatives, decide 0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:18.480 to be merit obsessed to build a country base on 0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:20.920 how hard you work and what you're able to deliver. 0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:26.080 Okay, Well the uh so wait here, just I wasn't 0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:29.600 final point? Yeah, final point? I sure, Okay, sure, this 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:31.920 thing's a little close. Oh I'm sorry, I don't mean 0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:35.239 to offend your wonderful set up here. Uh yeah, so 0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:38.360 I guess I'll just restate my point that, Uh, I 0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:42.560 don't believe you mentioned like all black dormitories, right, Uh, 0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:44.719 I mean, I I don't really comment on that. I mean, 0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:46.600 I don't know if that's real. To me, that sounds fake. 0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:48.480 But I'll give you the benefit of doubt here. It's 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:51.800 very real, okay, But I just think it's very irrelevant, 0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:54.240 kind of like aesthetic focus. Think it doesn't really affect 0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:56.239 the material conditions of like black if. 0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:58.080 You if you heard there were white only dormitories, there'd 0:52:58.120 --> 0:52:58.880 be marching in the streets. 0:52:58.920 --> 0:52:59.000 Right. 0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.200 Oh well, because because okay, I can I get the difference. 0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:04.600 The difference is like, for example, I'll go back to segregation, 0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:07.400 the all white dormitory was nicest and all black one was. 0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:11.080 So if that's the if that's if that was brought back, Okay, 0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:13.280 if we were doing all white dormitory and I'm. 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:15.360 Not recommending I think actually segregation is wrong and evil, 0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:17.040 and we're heading until Donald Trump. 0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:20.120 We were heading in that direction until But like, okay, 0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:22.640 I'll go back because I did, like I let slip by. 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:25.200 But you mentioned that like in the early years of 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:28.360 the dollch On presidency, right, that the conditions, the employment 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.239 and stuff were going up for black people. What I 0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:32.799 would say is the economy works up slow works at 0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:36.120 like a time dilation for the policies initially enacted so well, 0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:37.719 I would I would probably assume, based on what you 0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:39.480 said to me, is that it was the Albama era 0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:42.560 policies that that actually led to that, not the Trump policies, 0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:45.680 because stuff like tax cuts doesn't really help. 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:47.200 In a year from now, we're gonna have the greatest 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:48.399 economy ever. They're gonna say. 0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:51.000 It's all bid them, it's all bid them. Well, I mean, 0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:52.680 if we I don't think that's gonna happen at person. 0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:54.080 I think the colomy is going this with what all 0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.200 Elon Musk is doing. But if that, if that was 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:59.399 to happen, I mean, I guess my whole world view. 0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:03.080 But I'm pretty sorry about what about Elon? What Elon's doing? Bothers? 0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:04.200 You do you do you not want to see the 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:08.239 government efficient? The government is efficient. He's just firing everybody. Looks, 0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:09.840 look he did the toilet bro y'all see what happened 0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:12.240 towilet brats races us. Now it is the Nazi haven. 0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.799 It went from like a pretty pretty accepting place to 0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:19.040 like what like we're like the average blue check mark, 0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:21.560 I saying Hail Hilther Like Elon Musk himself has replied 0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:23.440 to like, well, he did the Nazi salute, Like we're 0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:24.560 not gonna forget about that, are we? 0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:24.759 No? 0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:27.839 He did? Yeah, y'all, y'all see that clip. Bro y'all 0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:29.560 see when he did that? All right? 0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:30.160 Oh? 0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:31.800 Okay, thank And by the way, I just want to 0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:33.600 thank you for something. You're welcome. Well, I want to 0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:34.919 thank you. Do I get do I get a part 0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:36.640 of like the TikTok revenue gonna get from this? 0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:38.040 I want I want to thank you. I want to 0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:40.359 thank you for something. Oh yeah, you you are a 0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.840 perfect reminder why we want to November. So thank you 0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:44.120 for that. 0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:45.840 I really appreciate it. Thank you. 0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:48.680 So you would say I'm a misinformation machine. That's fine, Yeah, fine, 0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:49.600 you're a teacher. 0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.160 Yes. What is a woman? What is a woman? 0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:54.839 Oh? 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:55.280 Buddy? 0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:55.920 All right? 0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:59.520 So we define gender as a set of preferences that 0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:08.880 you have, excuse me, gender. Gender is a set of 0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:14.480 preference we have. Woh. Woman is a social construct that 0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:18.920 we've agreed upon. Typically, we imagine womanhood as makeup or 0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:25.720 whatever it is. There is a difference between the word 0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:31.000 woman and being a biological female. Woman is a social 0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:34.480 construct that we use. Listen for a second. I'm telling 0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:38.880 you what it means. Woman is a social construct. We 0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:41.319 agree on these set of preferences. If I tell you 0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:43.520 that I'm a man, is because I want you to 0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:45.799 know that I like these set of preferences. If I 0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:47.320 tell you I'm a woman, is because I want you 0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:49.200 to know that I agree with these set of preferences. 0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:52.479 Can men give birth? Can men? 0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:53.680 Or can males? 0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:59.840 Because males can't these Listen for a second. If you listen, 0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:03.160 it's your bio professors, you'd understand there's difference between biology 0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:04.399 and what we think. 0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:06.839 So I want to thank you for proving a great point. Well, 0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.320 you are why we should eliminate the Department of Education. 0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:10.920 Thank you love it. 0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:14.719 I love you are here making a Trumps and mind 0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:15.840 the pro Trump speech for you. 0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:17.960 This has nothing to do with genders. Well, it has 0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:20.200 a lot of children. I'll talk about it here. Tell 0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:22.200 me how much you love you. Have a great day, 0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:24.560 God bless you. I'll pray for you. 0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:26.960 Oh my goodness, that will help a lot. 0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:28.200 Prayer. 0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:30.319 Prayer is a powerful thing, Yes it is. 0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.520 It has done horrendous things to this plant. 0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:34.399 Prayer has done horrendous things, and this. 0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:38.040 Plant has through Christianity and through a lot of other religions, 0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:43.280 marrow minded religions have caused a lot of pain and suffering. 0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:44.919 On this plend More people have died over the last 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.680 one hundred years under the guise of Marxism and statism 0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:50.120 than any other ideology, not even close. 0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:50.879 More people. 0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:53.759 One hundred million people died under communism in the last 0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:57.760 hundred years. One hundred million, Yeah, sixty and moles China 0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:01.920 thirty in Stalin's Russia to pol Pot's Cambodia, at least 0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:03.640 two hundred thousand in Cuba. 0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:04.960 I can keep doing. 0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:06.640 I'm not teaching communism here. 0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:10.000 No, but I'm saying nothing about children. 0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:12.799 You're telling me how much you support Trump and how 0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:14.120 much I'll. 0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:15.000 Talk about whatever you want to talk about. 0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:16.360 It's your conversation. 0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:17.120 What do you believe? 0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:22.480 I believe that there's a remedy for situations and not 0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:25.640 a political battle. I believe that if we work together 0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:29.800 and open our minds instead of militarizing ourselves, we could 0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:30.800 come up with a solution. 0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:33.360 Isn't talking how we come to solutions, Sure. 0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:36.360 But getting mad and making political stances on who you 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:38.720 love and what the president's doing is so great and 0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:39.560 what the PM is doing. 0:57:39.600 --> 0:57:42.320 So that is not a conversation, it's a statement. 0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:43.800 We'll have a conversation. 0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:46.840 Maybe we could have a conversation in the history building 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.720 sometimes about what. Maybe we could have a conversation in 0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:50.280 the history. 0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:52.600 Building sometimes, Yes, history conversation. 0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:56.760 History will tell us that when government grows too big, people. 0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:57.120 Suffer and die. 0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:01.680 Yes, that's what the history building should tell you. History 0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:03.480 will also tell us we live in the greatest country 0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:05.960 ever to exist. History will also tell you that Western 0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:10.240 civilization is the greatest miracle that humans ever got. 0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:13.280 History will tell you that. Any history will tell you 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:16.280 that Western history will tell you that. Tell me any 0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:18.440 history is a fault. I have to be in class. 0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:20.240 So I would really love to continue. God, bless you, 0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:25.880 thank you. Do you say it's a lie? It was 0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:31.200 just kind of talks. Yeah, similar, similar, it's similar. Similar. 0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:37.400 So America is the greatest country ever to exist, not 0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:43.400 even close. What what country would you say is the greatest? 0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:47.640 Makes the country great, most productive, most accepting, most generous, 0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:51.560 most benevolence. Yes, we take in half the world's immigrants 0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:54.640 every single year. How is this not accepted? 0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:57.040 What does that have to do about not being accepted? 0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:02.320 My name is Charlie Kirk, and I love America because 0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:05.560 I love talking with people I disagree with the country. 0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:08.480 Start an organization that's now in a thousand plus campuses 0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:10.960 to save the greatest culture and country ever to exist. 0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:17.000 Hires vets and Higher's vets and. 0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:19.600 And I've had thousands of hours of conversation about these ideas. 0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.200 The cameras, is it necessary? 0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:27.280 Well, considering I've been assaulted, followed, stocked, and had things 0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:33.800 thrown at me, the greatest protection I have is cameras. 0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:40.880 It's a public space, all. 0:59:39.320 --> 0:59:40.640 Right, once one second? 0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:44.400 One you have this seens it's all good. But what 0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:48.200 country would you say is greater than this one? It's fine, 0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:51.160 I just said, I mean we taken. 0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:52.920 Hat your your definition of three. 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:56.200 I mean we are the you say that the. 0:59:56.240 --> 1:00:00.720 United States of America has always done the has always 1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:02.960 made the greatest decision because it's perfect. 1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:03.200 Right. 1:00:03.800 --> 1:00:06.400 I never said America was a perfect country every nor 1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:08.840 have we. We've made a lot of mistakes. 1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:09.640 Anything great? 1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:12.520 No, no, no, no, no, That's not what I've said. 1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:19.360 Extra because from an objective analysis, pective correct of world history. Hello, 1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:25.520 how are you? We are the most creative, the most accepting, 1:00:25.720 --> 1:00:28.840 the most benevolent, the most generous, most forward thinking and 1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:33.560 productive country ever to exist. We are a country that 1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:36.000 sent thirty seven thousand of our own citizens to die 1:00:36.040 --> 1:00:38.440 and the Korean peninsula so South Korea could exist, and 1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:41.040 we asked for nothing in return. No country's ever done 1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:46.360 anything close to that. We sent them milkication reading history. 1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:48.360 What did I do? How is that not true? What 1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:54.920 I just said? No? But what am I saying? That's untrue? 1:00:54.960 --> 1:00:57.880 Americans gave away five hundred billion dollars to charity last 1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:03.840 year voluntarily. We've taken half of the world's immigrants half work. 1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:07.000 You know that only five percent of the money that 1:01:07.040 --> 1:01:10.000 you've put into a non promitary charity. 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:10.880 Even has to be you. 1:01:12.560 --> 1:01:13.200 So most. 1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:18.760 Most charities and most foundations will use ninety plus percent 1:01:18.800 --> 1:01:20.240 of the net assets they get. 1:01:20.080 --> 1:01:24.400 Every single year. What now, you can look at the 1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:26.120 you can look at the IRS website. 1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:28.720 I understand what I'm saying might bother you, But we're 1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:32.400 also the most accepting, least racist, most diverse, multiracial country 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:37.200 in the world by far. We've been okay, How look 1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:40.640 at the United accepted. We've taken half the world's immigrants 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:41.600 every single year, so. 1:01:44.040 --> 1:01:44.840 Other countries to. 1:01:47.080 --> 1:01:47.520 Poverty. 1:01:47.920 --> 1:01:51.280 Most America is not living in poverty. Yes, really educated. 1:01:51.640 --> 1:01:54.280 We're the richest country in the world by far. We 1:01:54.400 --> 1:01:57.120 have an American middle class is a uniquely American concept. 1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:01.480 You ever walk down the streets, Excuse me, I grew 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:04.760 up in a gang gang infested neighborhood. So you want 1:02:04.760 --> 1:02:06.760 to talk to poor people, I'm talking, and we're talking 1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:07.760 to you from a perspective. 1:02:09.000 --> 1:02:11.320 You know that America is poor actually and the richest 1:02:11.360 --> 1:02:15.040 one percent in the world a remarkable amount. 1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:17.320 Of people in the world. 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:20.240 Persons. 1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:23.080 Know what I'm saying is that a very poor person 1:02:23.160 --> 1:02:26.600 in America is relatively extraordinarily rich by world standards. 1:02:26.920 --> 1:02:30.040 Yes, hello you. I don't want to tell you. 1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:33.120 How to speak. 1:02:34.720 --> 1:02:39.160 I go around universities and have challenging conversations and because 1:02:39.200 --> 1:02:43.120 that's what is so important to our country is to 1:02:43.400 --> 1:02:47.120 find our disagreements respectfully, because when people stop. 1:02:46.960 --> 1:02:50.240 Talking, that's when violence happens. You could see that happen 1:02:50.480 --> 1:02:51.480 all across the world. 1:02:51.680 --> 1:02:53.880 So I don't and I'm not really interested in being 1:02:53.920 --> 1:02:56.920 a field. So that's I understand americastries. 1:02:58.120 --> 1:02:59.600 Where are you from Australia? 1:03:00.040 --> 1:03:04.600 It okay, and I just again, don't send in Tennessee. 1:03:05.720 --> 1:03:07.080 I've never seen someone dubiously. 1:03:07.280 --> 1:03:10.200 Yes, Well, it's a growing trend because people like me 1:03:10.680 --> 1:03:16.800 are facing violence assault the left. Yes, the campus Antifa. 1:03:17.200 --> 1:03:19.880 I've been stormed out of restaurants. I've been assaulted publicly, 1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:28.440 multiple death threats. Well, the campus left has been incited 1:03:28.520 --> 1:03:32.800 by Democratic leadership and trained to go after people like me. 1:03:33.040 --> 1:03:34.760 Okay, so at that part of this asign. 1:03:35.280 --> 1:03:36.800 What might have cheated from that year? 1:03:37.000 --> 1:03:40.720 Well, because I love talking to people I disagree with, 1:03:41.120 --> 1:03:45.960 Because in America we have a tradition for public discourse 1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:49.080 and dialogue. Going back into the Lincoln Douglas debates, going 1:03:49.160 --> 1:03:52.520 back to Teddy Roosevelt screaming at political opponents, going back 1:03:52.560 --> 1:03:54.040 to how the US Congress should exist. 1:03:54.120 --> 1:03:57.040 Okay, so what's you golling on this to. 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:03.240 I'm freezing, We're we're in the shade. Is this is 1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:05.600 where that we have to be? My goal is to 1:04:05.840 --> 1:04:07.800 do you have to be them well, because you have 1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:09.680 to have permits and stuff to do this. Yeah, this 1:04:09.760 --> 1:04:09.920 is it. 1:04:10.520 --> 1:04:12.919 Despite the First Amendment, they relegate me to a certain area. 1:04:13.640 --> 1:04:16.520 But so, but also number two, there's more people that 1:04:16.600 --> 1:04:20.080 agree with me than some people would actually believe, and 1:04:20.080 --> 1:04:21.160 they come out of the woodwork when I. 1:04:21.160 --> 1:04:23.840 Do stuff like this. And finally we record all of. 1:04:23.840 --> 1:04:25.680 It so that we put on the internet so people 1:04:25.720 --> 1:04:28.680 can see. These ideas collide when people stop talking, and 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:31.320 that's when you get violence. That's when civil war happens 1:04:31.520 --> 1:04:33.040 because you start to think the other side is so 1:04:33.160 --> 1:04:36.000 evil and they lose their humanity. Marriages break apart when 1:04:36.000 --> 1:04:40.040 you stop talking, Churches fall apart, businesses, companies, friendships, relationships. 1:04:41.040 --> 1:04:45.040 Yes, sure, so I have to go yes from the university. 1:04:45.160 --> 1:04:47.440 Yeah, there's just one thing that I've seen as your 1:04:47.480 --> 1:04:49.880 big city can as you bring in the phone, is 1:04:49.920 --> 1:04:52.840 it you really probably have some really good ones to say. 1:04:53.040 --> 1:04:54.800 And that's fine. I'm trying and least it on the 1:04:54.800 --> 1:04:56.640 statinism bea So I'm gonna go apartment step. 1:04:56.480 --> 1:04:57.800 And I'm wait from some pace. 1:04:58.280 --> 1:05:01.360 But you're really like sleeping towar in a way into 1:05:02.400 --> 1:05:03.320 I don't know what that word means. 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:03.680 Rhetoric. 1:05:04.040 --> 1:05:04.960 Oh, rhetoric. I didn't hear it. 1:05:05.120 --> 1:05:07.680 Okay, it makes you you kind of start to tip 1:05:07.680 --> 1:05:09.800 off things and the points that you're trying to make 1:05:09.800 --> 1:05:11.960 because I'm sure you know your arguments really well. But 1:05:12.080 --> 1:05:14.560 from the people I watched, standing, the kind of the 1:05:14.680 --> 1:05:15.120 party is. 1:05:15.120 --> 1:05:16.080 To fix your tourism. 1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:18.160 Do you think they hear that stuff commonly thought? 1:05:18.240 --> 1:05:21.120 Well, I don't know what you present, that's all I 1:05:21.160 --> 1:05:25.320 think you point. Let sure, and it's not a pretty sis. 1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:29.400 Sure you're comfortable with the session that you want. I 1:05:29.440 --> 1:05:30.800 think you're approached on your hearing. 1:05:31.040 --> 1:05:33.520 Yeah, but at least ten or twelve things I told that, 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:34.920 I said that word factual. 1:05:35.280 --> 1:05:36.640 That's your point that you've told. 1:05:36.880 --> 1:05:39.280 Yes, telling is not a conversation, but they have They 1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:40.440 can walk away at any time. 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:41.919 Conversation takes two people. 1:05:42.000 --> 1:05:43.680 He told me there's something you want you two. 1:05:43.800 --> 1:05:45.160 Yes, But they didn't hear it some of it. 1:05:45.240 --> 1:05:48.120 For example, I said ninety plus percent of border patrol 1:05:48.160 --> 1:05:49.320 agents support building the wall. 1:05:49.320 --> 1:05:51.960 They immediately dismissed it. They never heard that before. So 1:05:52.000 --> 1:05:54.720 I'm saying things that are not commonly discussed at a university. 1:05:54.760 --> 1:05:57.760 And all I'm saying is that way you say sometimes Okay, 1:05:57.800 --> 1:06:00.680 I appreciate that, Thank you, I appreciate it. 1:06:00.760 --> 1:06:00.960 Thank you. 1:06:02.040 --> 1:06:06.439 I'm technically a Democrat, but I have very conservative views 1:06:06.560 --> 1:06:10.760 because I'm faith based all the way. So I have 1:06:10.880 --> 1:06:13.960 a question which is also kind of a disagreement, but 1:06:14.080 --> 1:06:16.880 I want to build it up. Okay, So, of course 1:06:16.960 --> 1:06:19.320 you just said Jesus is the most important thing for 1:06:19.440 --> 1:06:22.800 everyone out here, and so can you please explain to 1:06:22.920 --> 1:06:26.440 everyone out here what Jesus stood for, and especially the 1:06:26.560 --> 1:06:29.880 qualities of love, how to love your neighbor even if 1:06:29.920 --> 1:06:30.920 they don't agree with you. 1:06:31.200 --> 1:06:33.640 So what is your name? Again? To Lisa, that's a 1:06:33.640 --> 1:06:34.240 beautiful question. 1:06:34.320 --> 1:06:36.080 I'm glad you came up to ask it, But I 1:06:36.200 --> 1:06:39.000 want to also just add something, because you're right, Jesus 1:06:39.280 --> 1:06:44.080 fully embodied to thinks simultaneously that showed his divine and 1:06:44.320 --> 1:06:47.200 his godly nature, because not that Jesus said good things. 1:06:47.520 --> 1:06:50.840 Jesus is Lord, Christ is King, and Jesus is God 1:06:51.000 --> 1:06:52.960 on top of just being a guy with a lot 1:06:53.000 --> 1:06:56.040 of good ideas. So John eight, if I'm drawing from 1:06:56.080 --> 1:07:00.440 memory correctly, best embodies both Christ's mercy and love, but 1:07:00.680 --> 1:07:05.760 also his commitment to truth. And sometimes in the modern Gospel, 1:07:06.200 --> 1:07:11.080 we overemphasize the grace and we underemphasize the truth, and 1:07:11.240 --> 1:07:14.160 so we are far too willing to say, hey, Jesus 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:16.640 loves everybody, but we don't get to the second part 1:07:16.680 --> 1:07:18.720 of the conversation. It says, Jesus doesn't want you to 1:07:18.800 --> 1:07:19.280 live in sin. 1:07:19.760 --> 1:07:21.840 So this is in John A. It's best embodied. 1:07:21.920 --> 1:07:22.040 Right. 1:07:22.240 --> 1:07:24.280 Almost every Christian in this audience will be able to 1:07:24.280 --> 1:07:25.960 tell you the first part of this, which is a 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:28.800 bunch of Sadducees and Pharisees are sitting around, standing around 1:07:28.840 --> 1:07:31.760 with rocks, and they're about to stone the prostitute woman, 1:07:31.800 --> 1:07:33.880 and Jesus comes up and says, let the first among 1:07:34.000 --> 1:07:37.480 you without sin cast the first stone, and everyone starts 1:07:37.560 --> 1:07:40.640 dropping the rocks. But what comes next shows that Christ 1:07:40.800 --> 1:07:44.680 is not just grace focused, he's simultaneously truth focused. He 1:07:44.800 --> 1:07:47.840 goes up to the woman who had a career in 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:52.600 selling herself for sex and said, sin no more. Now, 1:07:52.880 --> 1:07:56.080 imagine today how much trouble you would get in if 1:07:56.120 --> 1:07:58.840 you would go up to somebody and say, stop sinning. 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:02.520 You are being too judgmental. No, no, you're actually being 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:05.800 christ Like. So Jesus stood, he was one hundred percent 1:08:05.920 --> 1:08:08.480 grace and truth. And that tension is very hard in 1:08:08.520 --> 1:08:12.120 a modern world because we want to overemphasize grace, when 1:08:12.160 --> 1:08:15.320 in reality Christ loves us too much to have us 1:08:15.400 --> 1:08:17.840 continue to live in sin. He wants us to try 1:08:17.880 --> 1:08:20.360 to elevate our actions to glorify God and all that 1:08:20.479 --> 1:08:20.680 we do. 1:08:21.000 --> 1:08:22.240 I agree one hundred percent. 1:08:23.400 --> 1:08:25.680 And so to go on my question, I really want 1:08:25.720 --> 1:08:28.920 to talk about DEI and so with our Christian I 1:08:29.000 --> 1:08:31.760 will agree with you a lot of I read the 1:08:31.800 --> 1:08:34.360 Bible for myself, so I knew what that scripture said. 1:08:34.680 --> 1:08:37.879 But my question is how can Christian teachings on love, equity, 1:08:38.000 --> 1:08:41.759 and justice in form and shape discussions on diversity, equity, 1:08:41.800 --> 1:08:45.960 and inclusion in today's society. And so to also, Jesus 1:08:46.080 --> 1:08:46.960 hung out with sinners. 1:08:47.040 --> 1:08:48.840 He did not judge. He told the truth. 1:08:49.200 --> 1:08:51.720 And so I think that a lot of people in 1:08:51.840 --> 1:08:55.360 society today when we talk about political views that our opposition, 1:08:55.560 --> 1:08:58.559 we judge them because we think, oh, because you voted 1:08:58.640 --> 1:09:02.240 for Trump, you agree on everything, when that's not the case, right, 1:09:02.680 --> 1:09:04.560 And I want you to talk about that. 1:09:04.880 --> 1:09:05.280 Are you good? 1:09:05.560 --> 1:09:07.760 So, and then I'll connect with the DEI and I'm 1:09:07.760 --> 1:09:09.040 going to make a case and I don't know if 1:09:09.080 --> 1:09:11.479 it will be persuasive to you why I think DEI 1:09:11.600 --> 1:09:14.120 is unbiblical. And I'm gonna try to make that case. Okay, 1:09:14.479 --> 1:09:16.600 But first let me talk about let me comment on 1:09:16.720 --> 1:09:20.120 your astute point, which is that Christ wants us to 1:09:20.200 --> 1:09:22.920 be around people that are not like us. This is 1:09:22.920 --> 1:09:24.680 why I go to college campuses. But more and more 1:09:24.720 --> 1:09:26.400 I go to college campuses, I'm getting a lot of 1:09:26.400 --> 1:09:28.519 big crowds. So it's kind of unusually. I used to 1:09:28.560 --> 1:09:30.160 go here and you know, get heckled and have very 1:09:30.200 --> 1:09:33.360 small crowds. But let me demonstrate this in an unusual way. 1:09:33.400 --> 1:09:36.479 Almost every person that's audience would say Christ wants us 1:09:36.520 --> 1:09:38.840 to be salt and light. Now what are the two 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:42.080 characteristics of salt and light? They change the environments that 1:09:42.160 --> 1:09:45.320 they come in contact with. They do not affirm, they 1:09:45.400 --> 1:09:48.920 do not conform, They change for the better. It's very 1:09:48.960 --> 1:09:51.880 important everybody, We as Christians are called to change the 1:09:52.040 --> 1:09:53.400 environment that we come in touch with. 1:09:53.920 --> 1:09:58.240 How's it going. So I'm a born gain believer in Jesus, and. 1:10:01.920 --> 1:10:04.280 But I want to hear your thoughts, Charlie, because sometimes 1:10:04.360 --> 1:10:08.479 I really struggle to align myself with the conservative side 1:10:08.680 --> 1:10:13.040 of the issues in our country. And multiple experiences in 1:10:13.080 --> 1:10:16.439 my life, whether it be it was just conversation that 1:10:16.520 --> 1:10:19.400 somebody picked up or whatever how I look, whatever it 1:10:19.479 --> 1:10:23.799 may be, assumptions my political views or where I'm leaning 1:10:24.040 --> 1:10:26.800 have blocked and gotten in front of what I really 1:10:26.880 --> 1:10:30.280 believe in, which is advancing the Gospel. And so my 1:10:30.479 --> 1:10:34.200 issue sometimes is that I want to be patriotic, I 1:10:34.360 --> 1:10:38.519 want to vote for and be public about that which 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:40.760 I think is best for my country, but I don't 1:10:40.800 --> 1:10:43.519 want it to get in front of my main goal, 1:10:43.680 --> 1:10:45.240 what I feel like I've been placed here on this 1:10:45.360 --> 1:10:48.000 earth for, which is advancing the Gospel to all people, 1:10:48.240 --> 1:10:50.679 not just conservatives, not just people who are comfortable walking 1:10:50.720 --> 1:10:53.280 in the church, but the far left of the left 1:10:53.360 --> 1:10:56.320 who are in their season of life for reasons I 1:10:56.400 --> 1:10:59.560 don't know, and I don't want what I believe to 1:10:59.640 --> 1:11:02.600 be for this country to get in the way of 1:11:02.720 --> 1:11:04.880 what's gonna ultimately grow the Kingdom of God. 1:11:05.200 --> 1:11:06.559 It's a great question. What's your name? 1:11:06.720 --> 1:11:06.840 Matt? 1:11:07.080 --> 1:11:07.600 Matt? Thank you. 1:11:08.680 --> 1:11:10.679 Let's repeat what you said, because it's correct. The most 1:11:10.720 --> 1:11:12.840 important thing in the world is to know Christ then 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:18.160 make him known. The second most important thing, though, is 1:11:18.240 --> 1:11:20.840 to make sure you can do the first thing. That's 1:11:20.880 --> 1:11:23.280 where I come in. You're focusing your life the number one. 1:11:23.840 --> 1:11:25.559 I'm focusing a majority of my life of number two. 1:11:25.600 --> 1:11:27.519 What I mean by that during COVID. They called the 1:11:27.600 --> 1:11:31.480 church non essential. Yet they left strip clubs, open, marijuana dispensaries, 1:11:31.640 --> 1:11:33.560 home depot and lows. But they said the Bride of 1:11:33.640 --> 1:11:37.360 Christ non essential. They always say separation church and state. 1:11:37.400 --> 1:11:38.760 Why is it then that the state could come in 1:11:38.840 --> 1:11:40.960 and shut down the church? You see, what we see 1:11:41.080 --> 1:11:43.360 is that when we stop caring about politics, is the 1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:47.040 government's so big it starts persecuting our religious liberty and 1:11:47.080 --> 1:11:50.479 our freedom. And it's not a contradiction. In fact, if 1:11:50.520 --> 1:11:54.080 you look at the conservative agenda, it is it is far. 1:11:54.400 --> 1:11:57.040 It's a far greater fit with a biblical worldview than 1:11:57.080 --> 1:11:58.760 anything on the left. And I'm sure you agree with that. 1:11:58.920 --> 1:11:59.040 Right. 1:11:59.280 --> 1:12:02.519 God created man and woman. When does life begin? Strong borders? 1:12:02.760 --> 1:12:05.040 It says in the scriptures Jeremiah twenty nine to seven. 1:12:05.320 --> 1:12:07.439 Demand the welfare of the nation that you are in, 1:12:07.760 --> 1:12:10.160 because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare. So 1:12:10.240 --> 1:12:13.240 we should care about our nation. In fact, Daniel fastened 1:12:13.280 --> 1:12:17.120 and prayed for his country Esther Mordecai Niemaiyah Jeremiah Joseph. 1:12:17.120 --> 1:12:19.559 In fact, we are called to be counselors to the king. 1:12:20.400 --> 1:12:23.160 We're called to be the moral conscious of a nation. 1:12:23.640 --> 1:12:25.680 And so if we want to know Christ and make 1:12:25.760 --> 1:12:29.639 him known, we must have one ingredient of free society. 1:12:30.280 --> 1:12:32.360 It is hard to know Christ than make him known 1:12:32.800 --> 1:12:34.600 in countries where the Gospel is not ought to be 1:12:34.680 --> 1:12:36.479 told on the side of the street, like China or 1:12:36.520 --> 1:12:40.040 North Korea. And that's not an exaggeration. When Christians fail 1:12:40.080 --> 1:12:43.320 to care about politics, politics will start caring about Christian 1:12:44.200 --> 1:12:46.600 And we must understand that we are the recipients and 1:12:46.680 --> 1:12:50.080 the inheritors of a country that was founded by Christians. 1:12:50.400 --> 1:12:53.240 So the Gospel can spread. And so I don't think 1:12:53.240 --> 1:12:55.439 it's a contradiction at all. I don't think that it's 1:12:55.840 --> 1:12:57.920 what's best for the country. I think is actually best 1:12:57.960 --> 1:13:02.160 for the kingdom. And let's pretend America. Let's say America collapses. 1:13:02.479 --> 1:13:04.880 Do you know that well over ninety percent of all 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:06.840 international mission funding comes from. 1:13:06.720 --> 1:13:07.439 The United States. 1:13:07.760 --> 1:13:10.280 Yeah, I can believe it that most missionaries come from 1:13:10.320 --> 1:13:13.120 five percent of the world's population. Here we are populating 1:13:13.160 --> 1:13:15.680 the earth in Africa and South America with people who 1:13:15.760 --> 1:13:17.919 love the Lord, that come with money, that come with resources, 1:13:17.960 --> 1:13:21.240 that come with clean water equipment. If America were to fall, 1:13:21.479 --> 1:13:23.840 the gospel would not spread as far in fact, the 1:13:23.960 --> 1:13:28.760 world is becoming more Christian because of America's wealth, our generosity, 1:13:29.120 --> 1:13:31.080 and our track record to say that we're going to 1:13:31.160 --> 1:13:33.599 stand for our fellow men and love our neighbor as ourselves. 1:13:33.680 --> 1:13:36.240 So I don't see any contradiction. I just see a 1:13:36.320 --> 1:13:38.840 difference in the same mission. Your mission is first and 1:13:38.920 --> 1:13:40.600 foremost to win people of Christ. I try to do 1:13:40.640 --> 1:13:42.760 that every day. But my mission is to make sure 1:13:42.800 --> 1:13:44.800 that you can do that without being arrest that are 1:13:44.840 --> 1:13:45.599 thrown in a gulag. 1:13:46.400 --> 1:13:47.600 Thank you, God, bless you. 1:13:48.240 --> 1:13:49.640 And I just wanted to ask you, because I'm a 1:13:49.640 --> 1:13:51.560 big Catholic, I wanted to ask you how important do 1:13:51.600 --> 1:13:53.679 you think religion is in this in this day and age? 1:13:53.880 --> 1:13:54.439 Very important? 1:13:54.520 --> 1:13:57.240 Yeah, I mean as America becomes more secular, and as 1:13:57.360 --> 1:14:01.599 the country becomes less godly, we become less free, more miserable, 1:14:01.640 --> 1:14:03.559 more depressed, more suicidal, more anxious, et cetera. 1:14:03.840 --> 1:14:04.040 Yeah. 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:07.240 So is this so I see that you that you 1:14:07.320 --> 1:14:10.160 really do try to push religion. Are you're a Christian? 1:14:10.320 --> 1:14:10.519 Yeah? 1:14:10.720 --> 1:14:13.720 I am a Christian. When did you grow up that way? Yes? 1:14:13.880 --> 1:14:14.679 Did you just recently? 1:14:15.080 --> 1:14:15.120 No? 1:14:15.240 --> 1:14:17.120 I mean I grew up in a passive Christian home, 1:14:17.200 --> 1:14:18.479 gave my life to the Lord when I was in 1:14:18.520 --> 1:14:19.000 fifth grade. 1:14:19.120 --> 1:14:24.080 Yeah, yeah, Hi, I'm wondering what your intentions are. So 1:14:24.200 --> 1:14:25.960 I am new to you and this, and I was 1:14:26.080 --> 1:14:26.720 just intrigued. 1:14:27.160 --> 1:14:30.559 Sure, hear from different ideas and see where we agree 1:14:30.560 --> 1:14:31.080 and disagree. 1:14:31.439 --> 1:14:35.800 So yeah, what's like your purpose though? Like communication? Yes, 1:14:35.920 --> 1:14:38.320 but like what are what ideas are you trying to bring? 1:14:38.479 --> 1:14:39.479 Or like help people. 1:14:39.360 --> 1:14:43.320 Understand conservative ones traditional American ones? 1:14:43.400 --> 1:14:47.200 Okay, like traditional conservatism or like modern conservative right wing 1:14:47.280 --> 1:14:48.360 because they like switched. 1:14:48.520 --> 1:14:50.360 I don't like labels, so you can ask me about 1:14:50.360 --> 1:14:50.719 a topic. 1:14:50.840 --> 1:14:53.559 Cool, So yeah, okay, I. 1:14:53.560 --> 1:14:56.960 Think there's only two sexes. No, gender's infinite personalities. Life 1:14:57.000 --> 1:15:00.200 begins at conception. We should deport all the illegals, right. 1:15:00.600 --> 1:15:02.880 The m RNA gen altering shot called the vaccine killed 1:15:02.880 --> 1:15:04.439 a lot of people and it's currently poisoning a lot 1:15:04.439 --> 1:15:06.879 of people. Yeah, so these are just some of my opinions. 1:15:07.080 --> 1:15:10.080 So you think it'll like make the country better? 1:15:10.360 --> 1:15:10.880 Like what are you? 1:15:11.200 --> 1:15:11.400 Yeah? 1:15:11.400 --> 1:15:12.880 I mean I hope that number the number one. I 1:15:12.920 --> 1:15:15.120 want to support our amazing turning point USA chapter here 1:15:15.439 --> 1:15:17.840 where they feel out numbered and isolated. Number two we're 1:15:17.840 --> 1:15:19.760 promoting our event tonight. So I hope you guys show up. 1:15:20.160 --> 1:15:23.360 Where's our event. It's like in the Montazuma Hall or something. Yeah, 1:15:23.400 --> 1:15:27.280 that's great, Monta Zooma Hall, Montazuoma whatever. And number three 1:15:27.439 --> 1:15:29.599 is I want to see where I might be wrong, 1:15:29.680 --> 1:15:32.280 strengthen my arguments, and anybody can say anything to me. 1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:34.559 I think that free speech is the last best hope 1:15:34.560 --> 1:15:35.639 we have in Western society. 1:15:35.840 --> 1:15:39.080 Nice. Okay, Then I have a question about like women's 1:15:39.160 --> 1:15:42.800 rights in America. I just want to hear what you think, 1:15:43.160 --> 1:15:44.920 like where you think we're at, how you think we 1:15:45.000 --> 1:15:45.720 could better? Yeah? 1:15:46.040 --> 1:15:47.680 Can you just so I know where you're coming from. 1:15:47.760 --> 1:15:48.880 Can you tell me what is a woman? 1:15:51.320 --> 1:15:54.719 Oh, that's a great question. I would classify a woman 1:15:55.040 --> 1:16:00.000 as somebody with a womb and or a vagina. Sometimes 1:16:00.240 --> 1:16:02.720 people are born with either one or the other. 1:16:03.479 --> 1:16:06.759 Good we agree, yes, So as far as women's rights, 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:11.080 I don't separate rights based on sex. So you have 1:16:11.200 --> 1:16:13.280 to tell me what you mean based on that. 1:16:14.240 --> 1:16:17.720 Okay, Oh that's interesting. So do you believe that there's 1:16:17.800 --> 1:16:21.559 a difference right now in like people's rights and no. 1:16:21.960 --> 1:16:24.200 No, I mean there's male female differences, but there are 1:16:24.240 --> 1:16:25.800 no male rights. Or can you give me an. 1:16:25.760 --> 1:16:28.360 Example Okay, like patriarchy, That's what I'm getting at. Do 1:16:28.439 --> 1:16:30.120 you believe that we live in a patriarchy and it 1:16:30.240 --> 1:16:31.280 negatively affects women? 1:16:31.760 --> 1:16:31.800 No? 1:16:32.400 --> 1:16:32.439 No? 1:16:33.040 --> 1:16:36.400 Yeah, So, for example, men are more likely to commit suicide, yeah, 1:16:36.640 --> 1:16:39.840 more likely to die at work, more likely to declare bankruptcy. 1:16:40.160 --> 1:16:42.680 Women are far less likely to be in credit card debt, 1:16:43.040 --> 1:16:46.120 far more likely to graduate from college, far more likely 1:16:46.200 --> 1:16:47.240 to get a high paying job. 1:16:47.920 --> 1:16:50.960 Do you think that that's a really good point. Do 1:16:51.080 --> 1:16:54.479 you think that the suicide rates, or the depression rates, 1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:57.479 and the bankruptcy rates that you just mentioned regarding men 1:16:57.680 --> 1:16:59.960 have to do with the fact that men are pushed 1:17:00.200 --> 1:17:04.439 to be less open about their emotions. There they're less 1:17:04.560 --> 1:17:08.439 available to being able to communicate how they feel with others. 1:17:08.479 --> 1:17:11.960 They're taught to be more violent and be more physically 1:17:12.000 --> 1:17:14.200 harmful to themselves and others. And do you think that 1:17:14.280 --> 1:17:17.400 pushes them towards suicide, depression, and bankruptcy. 1:17:17.560 --> 1:17:19.599 I think it's the opposite. I think that we're teaching 1:17:19.680 --> 1:17:22.080 men to be metrosexual versions of their former selves. 1:17:22.200 --> 1:17:23.479 What does metrosexual mean to you? 1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:25.679 Indecipherable between a man and woman. 1:17:26.240 --> 1:17:28.920 So it's a man and women to you. What's the 1:17:28.960 --> 1:17:29.880 difference between them. 1:17:29.840 --> 1:17:31.519 Well, a man is in you're looking at a man, 1:17:31.600 --> 1:17:33.120 and I think I'm looking at a woman if I'm not. 1:17:33.120 --> 1:17:35.519 Mistaken nice Yeah, yeah, that's funny. 1:17:35.760 --> 1:17:40.560 Yeah, there's yeah, thank you, there's there's characteristics, archetypes. But 1:17:40.640 --> 1:17:45.200 we have we have differences. There are significant male female differences. 1:17:45.200 --> 1:17:48.240 I think what, well, men tend to be more assertive, 1:17:48.320 --> 1:17:51.120 women tend to be more agreeable innately or taught innately, 1:17:51.240 --> 1:17:54.720 And I wouldn't sayinly based on what science Well, just 1:17:54.800 --> 1:17:58.559 for example, if we look at artificial intelligence, scanned over 1:17:58.800 --> 1:18:02.360 ten thousand brains using a spec scan and was able 1:18:02.400 --> 1:18:05.000 to determine male female differences ninety five percent of the 1:18:05.040 --> 1:18:08.360 time of different brain functions based on basic ganlia, amigdal 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:09.680 age cerebella. 1:18:09.760 --> 1:18:12.880 Because interestingly enough you read twenty two, okay, fourteen to 1:18:12.960 --> 1:18:17.000 twenty two. I read a study recently that before the 1:18:17.120 --> 1:18:21.680 age of ten, brains are Neuroscientists are unable to be 1:18:21.720 --> 1:18:23.840 able to tell the difference in gender based on the brain. 1:18:24.160 --> 1:18:26.799 But at a certain point the social implications that children 1:18:26.880 --> 1:18:30.000 are taught start making them act differently. But it's been 1:18:30.280 --> 1:18:33.439 it's been shown that if a man or a woman 1:18:33.600 --> 1:18:35.680 were given the same. Okay, have you heard that men 1:18:35.760 --> 1:18:38.240 are they have more spatial awareness, like in their brain. 1:18:39.120 --> 1:18:40.040 I think that's probably true. 1:18:40.120 --> 1:18:42.920 Yeah, yeah, So we learned that if women are given 1:18:43.000 --> 1:18:46.040 a month of the same practices as children that men 1:18:46.120 --> 1:18:48.800 are given or allowed to do, whether whether it comes 1:18:48.840 --> 1:18:51.920 to what they're playing the media they're intaking, like what 1:18:52.000 --> 1:18:54.040 they're told and how they're told to act, that women 1:18:54.160 --> 1:18:58.320 have the same spatial awareness ability as men. So we're 1:18:58.360 --> 1:19:01.240 finding that innately the brain is the same, but because 1:19:01.320 --> 1:19:03.760 of the social constructs that we're taught on men and 1:19:03.800 --> 1:19:06.920 women and how they're supposed to act, their brain ability 1:19:07.080 --> 1:19:10.719 to activate certain parts changes. So by fourteen, the brain 1:19:10.880 --> 1:19:11.759 does seem different. 1:19:11.960 --> 1:19:15.040 You're raised kids. Tell me, have you ever raised kids? 1:19:15.040 --> 1:19:15.160 Now? 1:19:15.200 --> 1:19:16.599 I have six nieces and nephews. 1:19:16.640 --> 1:19:19.240 Though men and women, you couldn't be more wrong. If 1:19:19.280 --> 1:19:20.840 you're even around a two year old boy and two 1:19:20.880 --> 1:19:22.880 year old girl, it's not a matter of what they're taught. 1:19:22.920 --> 1:19:24.640 The girls are running too the dresses. The boys are 1:19:24.680 --> 1:19:26.560 running to the guns. You know who agrees with me. 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:29.000 One of the leading feminists of the sixties and seventies, 1:19:29.040 --> 1:19:31.000 Gloria Steinmann, who wrote Feminist mystique. 1:19:31.280 --> 1:19:34.200 Yes, and I read that even she who was. 1:19:34.280 --> 1:19:37.920 Like a hardcore gender is taught when she raised her kids. 1:19:38.520 --> 1:19:41.040 She was like, oh my goodness, there is a fundamental, 1:19:41.080 --> 1:19:43.120 innate difference between men and women. And it's not just 1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:48.400 brain structure. It's testosterone, it's estradial, it's estrogen production, it 1:19:48.520 --> 1:19:51.720 is hormone levels, it is all And I could just 1:19:51.840 --> 1:19:53.880 prove it. If you sit down to a young with 1:19:53.960 --> 1:19:55.800 a young lady, they're far more likely to talk about 1:19:55.880 --> 1:19:58.360 micro topics, and men are more likely to talk about 1:19:58.400 --> 1:19:59.120 macro topics. 1:19:59.280 --> 1:19:59.880 What's the difference? 1:20:00.560 --> 1:20:01.040 Great question. 1:20:01.120 --> 1:20:03.040 So if I sat down with a young lady, she'd 1:20:03.040 --> 1:20:05.760 mean much more likely to talk about friends, relationships, and 1:20:05.880 --> 1:20:07.880 things that are very intimate to her. A young man, 1:20:07.880 --> 1:20:09.960 we more likely to talk about the weather, sports, or 1:20:09.960 --> 1:20:13.439 the stock market or politics. Yeah, and that's not taught. 1:20:13.600 --> 1:20:14.439 That is innate. 1:20:14.560 --> 1:20:16.800 That is innate into our bioprogramming. 1:20:17.080 --> 1:20:18.320 What is bioprogramming? 1:20:18.880 --> 1:20:19.639 How we were designed? 1:20:20.320 --> 1:20:21.559 What do you mean how we were designed? 1:20:21.560 --> 1:20:24.879 I mean I believe that there's a creator that designed 1:20:24.960 --> 1:20:27.479 us and that we're fearfully and wonderfully made. And you 1:20:27.600 --> 1:20:29.160 might not agree. I was just say how you were born. 1:20:29.200 --> 1:20:31.000 I would even say, just to come to common ground 1:20:31.080 --> 1:20:31.240 on that. 1:20:31.479 --> 1:20:34.200 Okay, So the Creator chose that men and women have 1:20:34.320 --> 1:20:36.280 separate roles and it's innate, well. 1:20:36.200 --> 1:20:38.519 Not just separate roles, but made differently, and out of 1:20:38.640 --> 1:20:40.400 being made differently, you get different roles. 1:20:40.520 --> 1:20:42.840 Right, So if science proves that the other way do 1:20:42.920 --> 1:20:45.360 you just do you rely on creator over science. 1:20:46.000 --> 1:20:48.280 But science has done the opposite. So for example, in 1:20:48.320 --> 1:20:51.240 a Harvard study, they put fifty women in a room alone, 1:20:51.320 --> 1:20:53.080 and they put fifty men in the room alone. H 1:20:54.680 --> 1:20:57.400 not relevant, but around twenty five right relevant? 1:20:57.640 --> 1:20:59.920 Okay, So no, sorry, I'm actually having so much. 1:21:00.320 --> 1:21:04.600 Okay, So if you really I'm fascinated you think that 1:21:04.680 --> 1:21:07.679 eight year old's brains are infinitely neuroplastic, but we'll. 1:21:07.560 --> 1:21:08.240 Get to the back to them. 1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:10.960 No, no, when they're like babies by eight years old, 1:21:11.040 --> 1:21:13.680 you're already going through school and you've had so many relationships, 1:21:13.720 --> 1:21:14.639 they're definitely affected. 1:21:14.760 --> 1:21:16.439 But again, if you were right, John Money would have 1:21:16.439 --> 1:21:18.679 been proven right, but we'll get that later. So which 1:21:19.600 --> 1:21:22.519 that test isn't replicated so many times, and even the Dutch, 1:21:22.840 --> 1:21:24.800 who are like the most progressive on this, have gotten 1:21:24.840 --> 1:21:27.280 away from the idea of tabila ross. So that boys 1:21:27.320 --> 1:21:30.760 and girls are are boring similarly with brain differences, but 1:21:30.800 --> 1:21:32.720 we'll agree to discrain that. But the anyway, twenty five 1:21:32.800 --> 1:21:34.880 year olds were put into a room, okay, and they said, men, 1:21:34.960 --> 1:21:36.519 what do you think about when they're alone? No surprise, 1:21:36.600 --> 1:21:39.160 sports and sex? Right, young ladies, what do you think 1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:41.360 about in the room alone? For thirty minutes, just by themselves, 1:21:41.880 --> 1:21:45.840 they replayed prior conversations that they had. For the record, 1:21:45.960 --> 1:21:48.160 no man in the history of the species has replayed 1:21:48.360 --> 1:21:51.000 conversations that we had and thought about them when we 1:21:51.080 --> 1:21:53.000 were alone in a room, Like, what conversation? 1:21:53.080 --> 1:21:53.280 What was? 1:21:53.360 --> 1:21:54.040 This person said? 1:21:54.240 --> 1:21:58.599 Women are far more relational micro than men, and that's 1:21:58.720 --> 1:21:59.920 just based on how our design is. 1:22:01.760 --> 1:22:04.960 WHOA, I think that you just lied that. All men 1:22:06.080 --> 1:22:08.880 don't think that's such a It's called a joke. 1:22:08.960 --> 1:22:13.040 I'm sure there's a man somewhere that recollected on a conversation. 1:22:13.280 --> 1:22:15.080 Well, I didn't know that in a dialect that's a 1:22:15.120 --> 1:22:17.400 debate based on science, and you're talking about a study 1:22:17.439 --> 1:22:19.280 that would you implement a joke that's based on it. 1:22:19.439 --> 1:22:22.439 Yes, Humor is a tool of a rhdetorician to try 1:22:22.479 --> 1:22:25.360 to get people, you know, to chuckle a little levity. 1:22:25.600 --> 1:22:27.880 So yeah, thank you, I appreciate it. Thank you. 1:22:28.160 --> 1:22:30.320 Let me ask you a question. Do you think testosterone 1:22:30.360 --> 1:22:35.559 and estrogen play into people's ability to have drive, ambition, feelings, 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:38.000 and do you think testosterone estern are important? 1:22:38.479 --> 1:22:38.679 Yes? 1:22:39.160 --> 1:22:42.080 Okay, So then if women are lower in testosterone and 1:22:42.120 --> 1:22:44.720 higher and estrogen and men are lower in estrogen higher 1:22:44.760 --> 1:22:49.760 in testosterone, wouldn't that, independent of society's framing, play into 1:22:49.800 --> 1:22:51.840 the idea that there are natural differences between the two. 1:22:52.120 --> 1:22:54.960 I think that it definitely plays into the idea that 1:22:55.000 --> 1:22:57.439 they're in natural differences, and I think there are natural differences. 1:22:57.479 --> 1:22:59.960 I just think to an extent that as a society, 1:23:00.200 --> 1:23:02.840 we've decided that men because they have more testosterone, and 1:23:02.880 --> 1:23:08.280 we've known testosterone makes people more aggravated, that or what's aggravated. 1:23:08.320 --> 1:23:11.800 I'll just leave it aggressive aggressive, Yes, sure, I take aggressive. Yeah, 1:23:11.840 --> 1:23:14.879 thank you. That it makes people are men more aggressive, 1:23:15.120 --> 1:23:18.960 that we've decided that that means that men are not 1:23:19.240 --> 1:23:22.880 in control of their moral ability or their ability to 1:23:23.560 --> 1:23:26.200 to choose what they're going to do. So it becomes 1:23:26.320 --> 1:23:29.600 like men have more testosterone, but they still have the 1:23:29.680 --> 1:23:33.720 ability to choose to treat people so better or with 1:23:33.960 --> 1:23:37.160 less aggression like it's not it's like, oh, men don't 1:23:37.280 --> 1:23:39.920 have the ability to make those choices. That's almost like 1:23:40.040 --> 1:23:42.439 downplaying men's ability by saying that they just have to 1:23:42.520 --> 1:23:43.559 give into their aggression. 1:23:43.560 --> 1:23:45.800 I'm not contesting that the mark of a true man 1:23:45.880 --> 1:23:48.439 is one who who can control himself. Do you think 1:23:48.479 --> 1:23:50.160 that you could do you think there's a problem of 1:23:50.240 --> 1:23:52.880 trying to turn women too masculine. 1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:55.800 Turning women to masculine. 1:23:56.920 --> 1:24:05.840 What's masculine for you, Well, let's just say not agreeable, forceful, aggressive, 1:24:07.520 --> 1:24:10.320 aggressive in the best possible term, forward thinking, more macro, 1:24:10.520 --> 1:24:15.000 more visionary, less feeling based, more rational, more yearning towards 1:24:15.080 --> 1:24:17.879 reason and dialogue, and less towards compassion or the ethos 1:24:18.400 --> 1:24:21.439 And what's feminine to you the inverse of that, So 1:24:21.920 --> 1:24:25.920 more on the emotion side, less macro, more micro much. 1:24:25.840 --> 1:24:27.840 So women aren't just what men are, not. 1:24:28.920 --> 1:24:32.360 No, they're different sides of a species coin, right, So 1:24:32.479 --> 1:24:34.880 you have human species, you have male and female, and 1:24:34.960 --> 1:24:38.840 there's differences. So I could also posit it separately. A 1:24:38.960 --> 1:24:41.960 woman is more compassionate, a man is less compassionate, So 1:24:42.040 --> 1:24:44.120 I could there's two ways to word it. But do 1:24:44.200 --> 1:24:46.160 you think that there's a problem about trying to force 1:24:46.200 --> 1:24:47.480 women to be too masculine. 1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:49.360 No, I don't think there's a problem. 1:24:49.720 --> 1:24:53.599 Okay, well I disagree. We have a crisis in this country. 1:24:53.640 --> 1:24:54.920 Why do you I'm curious, why do you think that 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:59.000 we have so many unmarried young thirty something women. It's 1:24:59.040 --> 1:25:00.920 the most in the history you have recorded data. 1:25:01.200 --> 1:25:02.960 That's a good question. I don't know if I've ever 1:25:03.360 --> 1:25:05.240 pondered why we have unmarried. 1:25:05.000 --> 1:25:07.439 Why do you think that it's the young women are 1:25:07.479 --> 1:25:11.759 the most depressed, alcohol addicted and psychiatric drug addicted in history? 1:25:12.120 --> 1:25:12.639 Is that true? 1:25:13.080 --> 1:25:13.200 Oh? 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:15.519 Yeah, the most miserable they've ever been. I'm just curious. 1:25:15.560 --> 1:25:16.439 What why do you think that is? 1:25:16.640 --> 1:25:18.400 Yeah, I guess I would. I would say that I 1:25:18.479 --> 1:25:22.360 think it's because like the society that we live in, right, 1:25:22.479 --> 1:25:27.000 like capitalistic, consumeristic where there's like constant processing and overconsumption 1:25:27.479 --> 1:25:30.320 that includes like drugs, alcohol. 1:25:31.800 --> 1:25:34.920 Over so women going into the workforce a lot could 1:25:35.000 --> 1:25:36.360 create a lot of depression for them. 1:25:36.800 --> 1:25:37.640 Yeah, same with men. 1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:40.479 Okay, but then shouldn't women, like I don't know, stay 1:25:40.479 --> 1:25:42.439 at home and have children and do what they're designed 1:25:42.439 --> 1:25:44.479 to do that make them happier. 1:25:44.479 --> 1:25:46.559 You have the more most depression that they have right 1:25:46.600 --> 1:25:50.160 now in this country could make the same just made 1:25:50.160 --> 1:25:50.479 for women. 1:25:50.960 --> 1:25:51.840 I'm asking questions. 1:25:51.920 --> 1:25:54.840 I'm saying, maybe the men are upset because the women 1:25:55.040 --> 1:25:57.400 that they're trying to date are more interested in taking 1:25:57.439 --> 1:25:59.439 care of cats and trying to become partner at the 1:25:59.479 --> 1:26:01.439 local law firm. Yeah, and they say, I don't want 1:26:01.439 --> 1:26:03.799 to get married till I'm thirty, And maybe that creates 1:26:03.840 --> 1:26:07.080 a sense of despondency when a young male being raised 1:26:07.080 --> 1:26:09.080 in this country sees everything rigged against them. 1:26:10.000 --> 1:26:12.120 So do you not believe that women should be working? 1:26:12.320 --> 1:26:14.679 Of course, I think I believe in liberty. I'm just asking, 1:26:15.000 --> 1:26:18.920 has there been an unintended tragedy where we have the 1:26:19.160 --> 1:26:22.559 most financially successful thirty to thirty five year old cohort 1:26:22.600 --> 1:26:24.040 of young women in history? 1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:24.439 Men? 1:26:25.479 --> 1:26:27.200 Well, again, the women's history. 1:26:27.400 --> 1:26:29.479 Like men and women are and depressed. 1:26:29.640 --> 1:26:31.479 The women are far more depressed than men. The men 1:26:31.479 --> 1:26:31.960 are depressed. 1:26:32.000 --> 1:26:33.719 But you just said that the men were more depressed 1:26:33.720 --> 1:26:34.439 and that's why they're. 1:26:34.640 --> 1:26:37.120 They're more suicidal, and they're largely more suicidal. 1:26:37.160 --> 1:26:40.040 They're more suicidal, but they're less No, they're. 1:26:39.880 --> 1:26:41.840 More successful at committing suicide than women. 1:26:42.240 --> 1:26:43.360 Oh, that's a big difference. 1:26:43.400 --> 1:26:45.960 Okay, yeah, women commit su women. 1:26:46.080 --> 1:26:48.400 No, it's true women try to commit suicide more, and 1:26:48.560 --> 1:26:51.240 yet women will go through three or four attempted suicide attempts. 1:26:51.400 --> 1:26:52.320 Men usual in the one. 1:26:52.439 --> 1:26:53.840 You can look it up. It's just the way it is. 1:26:54.160 --> 1:26:57.719 But I'm just curious, what is it about the thirty 1:26:57.760 --> 1:27:00.240 to thirty five year old female. Do you think there 1:27:00.280 --> 1:27:02.120 might be something missing? Do you think that there's like 1:27:02.200 --> 1:27:04.519 this biological urge to get married and procreate that we 1:27:04.600 --> 1:27:07.200 might have been suppressing because it is the least child 1:27:07.280 --> 1:27:10.200 it's the childless, least married cohort in the history of 1:27:10.479 --> 1:27:10.960 the country. 1:27:11.479 --> 1:27:15.679 Yeah, I believe that marriage and reproduction are beautiful things. 1:27:15.920 --> 1:27:16.160 I do. 1:27:16.520 --> 1:27:18.559 Do you think we should encourage it more for young women? 1:27:20.439 --> 1:27:23.960 I think we could encourage like a deeper understanding of 1:27:24.000 --> 1:27:27.920 people's individual sense of self and then through that, if 1:27:27.960 --> 1:27:31.400 people can better understand their wants and needs and become 1:27:31.479 --> 1:27:33.680 more self aware about who they are and what they need, 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:36.640 that ultimately they would lead them to like better and 1:27:36.760 --> 1:27:41.040 more efficient decision making for themselves. Okay, whether or not 1:27:41.120 --> 1:27:41.719 that means marriage. 1:27:41.800 --> 1:27:44.880 Last question you posited this, how would you define the patriarchy? 1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:50.000 Oh, the patriarchy so patriarchy like the epistemology of the. 1:27:50.000 --> 1:27:52.240 Word, or just like if do you believe it exists 1:27:52.280 --> 1:27:54.120 in the country today, or yeah, I. 1:27:54.200 --> 1:27:58.720 Believe patriarchy exists. Patriarchy comes from poter, right. Potter means 1:27:58.800 --> 1:28:03.800 father in Latin, so patriarchy is father over or men over, 1:28:04.000 --> 1:28:06.840 so it's like a men ruling, right. So we see 1:28:06.880 --> 1:28:09.320 it in the fact that God or the divinity is 1:28:09.360 --> 1:28:13.320 represented as men, which was only happened like halfway through 1:28:13.360 --> 1:28:16.080 the history of humans, so it was like a matrilineal 1:28:16.200 --> 1:28:20.040 matriarchy society for a while. We see it in the 1:28:20.120 --> 1:28:24.240 fact that women take men's last name. We see it 1:28:25.000 --> 1:28:29.679 in the way that in the way that men are viewed, 1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:33.280 or like men view women, and how women kind of 1:28:33.360 --> 1:28:36.800 have to adhere to the way that men want them 1:28:36.920 --> 1:28:38.960 to be portrayed. And I agree with you that porn 1:28:39.120 --> 1:28:42.120 is what would you say, toxic? Toxic? Yeah, And I 1:28:42.160 --> 1:28:45.160 think that's an aspect of the patriarchy, right, Like if 1:28:45.200 --> 1:28:47.680 you go on a porn website, which I'm sure you 1:28:47.800 --> 1:28:48.920 haven't in a while, but. 1:28:49.840 --> 1:28:52.599 To be addicted though, yeah, woll could I encourage everyone 1:28:52.680 --> 1:28:53.679 to break free of that addiction? 1:28:53.840 --> 1:28:54.080 Yeah? 1:28:54.200 --> 1:28:57.320 Me too, Yeah, me too. That's great, proud of you 1:28:57.439 --> 1:29:00.840 for that one. Yeah, but if you go on a 1:29:00.960 --> 1:29:03.880 porn website, you can see that, like the view of 1:29:03.960 --> 1:29:06.200 all of the porn is from the perspective of a man, 1:29:06.360 --> 1:29:08.639 and it's of a woman, and these kinds of aspects 1:29:08.720 --> 1:29:11.479 show that right now we live in a society where 1:29:11.520 --> 1:29:14.880 it's it's a man's view, it's men over, so like 1:29:15.000 --> 1:29:16.040 we're all taking on. 1:29:16.680 --> 1:29:19.920 Yeah, I thank you for that first. 1:29:19.960 --> 1:29:21.560 On the porn thing, eighty five percent of people that 1:29:21.640 --> 1:29:24.000 consume porn or men, so they're obviously going to shoot 1:29:24.000 --> 1:29:25.960 it in a way that is more attuned to men. 1:29:26.080 --> 1:29:27.479 For example, what if women? 1:29:27.600 --> 1:29:29.920 What if it was shooted for women, and then. 1:29:30.520 --> 1:29:32.719 Then they would change, they would change the perspective because 1:29:32.720 --> 1:29:34.880 they're they're in it to make money. The same reason 1:29:34.920 --> 1:29:37.600 why lifetime movies don't have rock and roll music and 1:29:37.800 --> 1:29:40.960 they tend to be very like uplifting, flowery, emotional based, 1:29:41.040 --> 1:29:43.920 and hyper feminine in the writing because most people that 1:29:43.960 --> 1:29:45.160 watch lifetime movies are women. 1:29:45.520 --> 1:29:46.519 What's lifetime movie? 1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:47.080 Okay? 1:29:47.120 --> 1:29:49.120 A lifetime movie is like a field good movie on 1:29:49.240 --> 1:29:52.280 cable TV that has like a very poorly written narrative 1:29:52.320 --> 1:29:53.799 and usually ends in some sort. 1:29:53.640 --> 1:29:54.760 Of like re mark. 1:29:54.960 --> 1:29:57.120 Yeah like homek Yeah, yeah, that's that's the best way 1:29:57.120 --> 1:29:58.519 I could I could got it. But thank you for 1:29:58.560 --> 1:29:59.560 the dialogue. I appreciate it. 1:29:59.720 --> 1:30:01.320 Yeah, thanks, thanks you too. 1:30:01.360 --> 1:30:02.160 Thank you, good luck. 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:02.559 Thanks. 1:30:05.479 --> 1:30:05.759 Sorry. 1:30:05.880 --> 1:30:08.000 Just to clarify, I'm not a very big fan. I'm 1:30:08.000 --> 1:30:10.200 aware of Turning Point in USA, but I don't watch 1:30:10.200 --> 1:30:13.600 a lot of stuff. I don't really have like a 1:30:13.640 --> 1:30:16.400 theological or political question. I have more of a question 1:30:16.479 --> 1:30:19.920 about like dialogue and like the purpose of kind of 1:30:20.000 --> 1:30:23.840 these meetings, because looking into Turning Point us say, it's 1:30:23.840 --> 1:30:26.400 really just an organization that's meant to like spread awareness 1:30:26.439 --> 1:30:30.640 of like your political beliefs, being like pro Christian, pro 1:30:33.000 --> 1:30:36.840 Republican Party, more Trump, I guess. But my question is, 1:30:37.040 --> 1:30:40.000 do you think that this platform or like this discussion 1:30:40.120 --> 1:30:43.479 of like politics in this way is useful because, like, 1:30:43.680 --> 1:30:45.679 for example, the guy that you talked to a little 1:30:45.680 --> 1:30:49.000 bit ago about vaccines, you had a lot of stuff 1:30:49.040 --> 1:30:51.200 to say to him that he couldn't really counteract in 1:30:51.240 --> 1:30:53.680 that moment, because just coming from it, you are a 1:30:53.760 --> 1:30:56.120 professional that this is your job, you walk around doing this, 1:30:56.640 --> 1:30:58.880 and so you just have more facts readily available that 1:30:58.920 --> 1:31:02.800 aren't necessarily very fiable. So it's kind of hard to 1:31:02.920 --> 1:31:06.519 argue a point, whether it's right or wrong, and whether 1:31:06.600 --> 1:31:10.439 or not you have the equipment to do so. If 1:31:10.479 --> 1:31:13.719 you just automatically have points that we can't really verify. 1:31:13.840 --> 1:31:15.600 You guys are welcome to bring phones or notes or 1:31:15.720 --> 1:31:19.400 phone a friend. Well, yeah, but then you bring a professor. Toot, 1:31:19.640 --> 1:31:21.680 Go bring a professor, bring to bring the whole. I'll 1:31:21.720 --> 1:31:26.519 debate them all. No, go find a professor, bring them down, 1:31:26.560 --> 1:31:29.080 and let's debate whatever you want. I mean, I meaning 1:31:29.160 --> 1:31:30.680 like yes, to answer your question. You're coming this in 1:31:30.720 --> 1:31:32.439 a good way. I do think this is effective. Look 1:31:32.439 --> 1:31:35.479 at the crowd you've already assembled. And I think that 1:31:35.600 --> 1:31:38.320 free speech is a bedrock of American society. And to 1:31:38.400 --> 1:31:41.120 be able to pursue truth and find out we agree 1:31:41.200 --> 1:31:44.280 or disagree, or have my assumptions challenged. And I do 1:31:44.400 --> 1:31:46.040 this all from memory. I don't have any notes here. 1:31:46.200 --> 1:31:48.400 You guys are welcome. You're not professionals. You're able to 1:31:48.439 --> 1:31:51.280 bring whatever you want. But yeah, look, I think that 1:31:51.560 --> 1:31:56.280 on this campus, especially it is a predominantly homogeneous left 1:31:56.320 --> 1:31:59.000 wing campus, especially amongst the professors, And to have a 1:31:59.080 --> 1:32:02.360 conservative be able to sit here and take adversarial questions. 1:32:02.720 --> 1:32:05.000 I think it also gives confidence to other conservatives here 1:32:05.040 --> 1:32:07.040 on campus to speak up when they might hear something 1:32:07.080 --> 1:32:10.360 they disagree about, or give them conviction to maybe say hey, 1:32:10.400 --> 1:32:12.040 I don't agree with that, and so I think that 1:32:12.120 --> 1:32:12.880 has a lot of value. 1:32:13.280 --> 1:32:18.000 Okay, just one more question on the meeting itself, because 1:32:18.000 --> 1:32:20.600 I understand the point of like kind of validating conservatives 1:32:20.880 --> 1:32:23.439 ability to talk. Obviously, we don't want to just kind 1:32:23.439 --> 1:32:25.800 of shut them up. That's not a very good course 1:32:25.840 --> 1:32:29.479 for dialoguee Yeah, But I think at the same time 1:32:29.960 --> 1:32:32.920 it's also these are all posted on the internet, right. 1:32:33.240 --> 1:32:36.760 Well, they're posted in its entirety. Yes, yeah, correct, But 1:32:37.040 --> 1:32:39.800 as long as unless somebody says you know something that 1:32:39.840 --> 1:32:40.400 you're insane. 1:32:40.800 --> 1:32:43.880 But usually for again, as someone who doesn't watch Turning 1:32:43.920 --> 1:32:46.400 point us say, the only thing I see from talks 1:32:46.479 --> 1:32:48.240 like this and similar to like I don't know if 1:32:48.280 --> 1:32:52.040 you associate with like Steven Crowder or but he has 1:32:52.240 --> 1:32:54.760 very similar like come and talk talk about these things. 1:32:55.000 --> 1:32:56.920 The only thing I ever really see from that is 1:32:57.680 --> 1:33:01.000 more sensationalized conversations like shutting down. 1:33:01.320 --> 1:33:04.160 And sometimes I feel like this dialogue can become Yeah, 1:33:04.160 --> 1:33:05.719 I mean again, you could look at my YouTube channel. 1:33:05.720 --> 1:33:08.320 We post hour long clips of these deals, so you 1:33:08.439 --> 1:33:10.760 see the clips because they lead to the longer form, 1:33:10.800 --> 1:33:12.240 but both are posted for sure. 1:33:12.479 --> 1:33:13.920 Do you think it's because it leads to the longer 1:33:14.000 --> 1:33:16.759 form or it's it's easier to watch and more entertaining. 1:33:17.280 --> 1:33:21.519 I mean, look, you're competing for eyeballs against literal pornography, Hulu, Netflix, 1:33:21.680 --> 1:33:24.120 and sports. So when people are wont to engage with 1:33:24.200 --> 1:33:27.280 content around politics, you're trying to win people over, right, 1:33:27.520 --> 1:33:30.280 But also we want to have integrity for the conversations 1:33:30.320 --> 1:33:31.599 that we have, which is what we do with our 1:33:31.600 --> 1:33:33.800 a lot of our YouTube videos and our longer form content. 1:33:33.960 --> 1:33:36.960 So okay, thank you very much, appreciate it, keep watching, man, 1:33:37.040 --> 1:33:39.280 thank you. Are you a Satanist? 1:33:40.120 --> 1:33:41.760 No, it's I know, I know, Satan's not real. 1:33:41.800 --> 1:33:44.280 I'm not that Oh okay, yeah, no, Satan is very real. 1:33:44.320 --> 1:33:45.439 But yeah, you can put the mic up. 1:33:46.560 --> 1:33:47.400 Satan is very It. 1:33:47.400 --> 1:33:49.000 Does relate to I wanted to ask. I wanted to 1:33:49.040 --> 1:33:50.679 ask like, well, first, are you a Christian? 1:33:51.800 --> 1:33:52.400 Very very much so? 1:33:52.520 --> 1:33:54.479 And I wanted to ask like, like, why is that exactly? 1:33:54.680 --> 1:33:56.599 Oh, Jesus saved my life. I'm a sinner. 1:33:56.720 --> 1:33:58.320 Fall short of the glory of God, gave my life 1:33:58.360 --> 1:33:59.960 to Christ's most important decision I ever made. 1:34:00.120 --> 1:34:01.479 So you believe the Bible is real? 1:34:01.640 --> 1:34:03.240 Yes, I believe the Bible is true and real. 1:34:03.520 --> 1:34:03.880 Why is that? 1:34:05.360 --> 1:34:07.200 Well, I could give you the technical answer. There's never 1:34:07.240 --> 1:34:09.519 been an archaeological discovery that has contradicted the truth of 1:34:09.560 --> 1:34:12.479 the Bible. We know everything the Bible, as far as 1:34:12.560 --> 1:34:15.000 the kings, as far as the succession of Israeli rulers, 1:34:15.320 --> 1:34:17.400 to the Jewish people being put in exile to be 1:34:17.479 --> 1:34:20.000 put back into the land of Jerusalem, to the destruction 1:34:20.040 --> 1:34:21.080 of the Temple in eighty seventy. 1:34:21.120 --> 1:34:21.800 All that checks out. 1:34:22.080 --> 1:34:24.640 There's never been a discovery that's contradicted it. From King 1:34:24.720 --> 1:34:28.000 Hezekiah to King Cyrus, to Nehemayah to Zuribebel, to this 1:34:28.200 --> 1:34:30.880 destruction of the creation of the Second Temple, and then 1:34:30.920 --> 1:34:32.680 of course the wisdom. There's not a truth of the 1:34:32.720 --> 1:34:34.240 Bible that if you apply to your life, your life 1:34:34.280 --> 1:34:37.240 does not improved dramatically. And then finally we have the 1:34:37.320 --> 1:34:42.560 most accurate and transparent, the most historically robust account. I 1:34:42.560 --> 1:34:45.960 should say that one can have of the most important 1:34:46.080 --> 1:34:47.599 figure ever to live in the history of the world, 1:34:47.680 --> 1:34:50.400 Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus of Nazareth, who was born 1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:54.280 in virgin birth, we believe is the incarnation perform miracles 1:34:54.320 --> 1:34:58.240 all throughout Juday and Samaria eventually confronted Pharisees, led to 1:34:58.320 --> 1:35:00.360 a death that he did not deserve, was in the 1:35:00.400 --> 1:35:02.479 grave for three days, and then rose from the dead. 1:35:02.520 --> 1:35:05.320 And the resurrection is the is the pinpoint of my 1:35:05.800 --> 1:35:08.320 belief that Jesus did rise from the grave so that 1:35:08.439 --> 1:35:08.920 we may live. 1:35:10.240 --> 1:35:12.479 So what about like the stories of Greek and Roman mythology, 1:35:12.520 --> 1:35:14.120 do you think any of that is real? So then 1:35:14.160 --> 1:35:15.599 what makes Christian mythology real? 1:35:15.960 --> 1:35:18.519 Well, give me an example of Christian mythology that I 1:35:18.600 --> 1:35:20.559 can do, like creation, so. 1:35:20.640 --> 1:35:23.400 Like Genesis story of like David and Glive for example. 1:35:23.400 --> 1:35:28.680 Okay, what's actually pretty easy to deconstruct. A sling is 1:35:28.720 --> 1:35:31.880 actually a rather lethal weapon, especially for someone in a 1:35:31.920 --> 1:35:34.000 Judaian tribe that's trained to use a sling of a 1:35:34.080 --> 1:35:37.960 young age. And Goliath was a rather clumsy individual. And 1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:40.400 if you're able to pinpoint a rock right between the 1:35:40.439 --> 1:35:44.360 temple lobe, you can effectively kill or lobotomize an individual. 1:35:44.640 --> 1:35:46.240 So that's hardly mythology, all. 1:35:46.200 --> 1:35:48.120 Right, So what about what about the story of Satan's fall? 1:35:48.200 --> 1:35:52.480 Then what about in Ezekiel. Yeah, so that's not mythology, 1:35:52.560 --> 1:35:56.360 but that is theology. So in the story of Satan's fall, 1:35:56.400 --> 1:35:59.200 in the later books of Ezekiel, we are told that 1:35:59.560 --> 1:36:01.799 God the heavens and the earth. God created the angels, 1:36:02.000 --> 1:36:04.479 and there was a rebellious angel, Lucifer, who led a 1:36:04.520 --> 1:36:07.080 rebellion against God and brought one third of the angels 1:36:07.120 --> 1:36:09.480 with him and then created what is now is the underworld. 1:36:09.600 --> 1:36:12.280 Is the best Hebraic interpretation of that which we now 1:36:12.360 --> 1:36:14.559 know as hell. I could go through every single story 1:36:14.640 --> 1:36:16.840 Jonah and the whale parting of the Red Sea, right 1:36:16.920 --> 1:36:20.439 Ahab on Mount Karma with Elijah. Here's my answer. If 1:36:20.520 --> 1:36:23.960 Genesis won one and the Resurrection is true, anything in 1:36:24.040 --> 1:36:26.920 the Bible is possible. You're looking at the greatest miracle. 1:36:27.400 --> 1:36:30.320 The greatest miracle is creation. The fact that we have 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:35.160 an ordered, intelligible world where we can exist and that 1:36:35.600 --> 1:36:37.200 human beings are able to flourish. 1:36:37.760 --> 1:36:38.599 That is a miracle. 1:36:38.680 --> 1:36:40.360 In the beginning, God created the heavens of the earth 1:36:40.400 --> 1:36:42.439 and Hebrew. That is better sheet in the beginning. And 1:36:42.479 --> 1:36:44.360 then the fact that Jesus rose from the dead and 1:36:44.400 --> 1:36:45.880 I say, how do you know that Jesus rose from 1:36:45.880 --> 1:36:49.479 the dead. Well, show me another historical piece of a 1:36:49.600 --> 1:36:53.320 story where so many people willingly died a brutal death 1:36:53.640 --> 1:36:56.920 for a lie. Every single person around him had everything 1:36:57.000 --> 1:36:59.519 to lose, and yet they went to the absolute death, 1:36:59.560 --> 1:37:01.639 from Paul to Peter to the half brother of James, 1:37:02.000 --> 1:37:04.639 saying that Jesus is Lord. Jesus rose from the dead. 1:37:04.720 --> 1:37:06.360 Not to mention, if you were going to fake a story, 1:37:06.560 --> 1:37:08.599 you would not use female witnesses. In the ancient world. 1:37:08.840 --> 1:37:11.000 In the scriptures it said that the women were the 1:37:11.080 --> 1:37:13.240 first one to see Jesus Christ. If you're trying to 1:37:13.240 --> 1:37:15.040 fake a story, you would never do that. Not to 1:37:15.120 --> 1:37:16.720 mention the five hundred people that I saw Jesus after 1:37:16.760 --> 1:37:18.600 he rose from the dead, doubting Thomas, and then the 1:37:18.640 --> 1:37:22.160 later church that lived under persecution under the belief that 1:37:22.240 --> 1:37:23.720 Jesus Christ was the son of God. 1:37:24.720 --> 1:37:26.360 Our one loss goes. So do you think do you 1:37:26.400 --> 1:37:28.320 think Christiania should be forced onto everybody? 1:37:28.439 --> 1:37:31.040 No? No, I don't believe Christiania should be forced. Then 1:37:31.080 --> 1:37:33.760 it's not love, it's rape. So we believe that God 1:37:33.880 --> 1:37:35.920 loves you, so he will not force you. And so 1:37:36.000 --> 1:37:38.200 if you reject God, you will go to Hell. I 1:37:38.240 --> 1:37:39.880 hope that's not the case for you, guys, because you 1:37:39.920 --> 1:37:41.759 can give Jesus Christ so you can live life eternal. 1:37:42.120 --> 1:37:44.360 But it's a love story, not a forced story. And 1:37:44.439 --> 1:37:46.120 so it's this option in front of you. Will you 1:37:46.200 --> 1:37:48.200 surrender in front of the cross? The cross is this 1:37:48.320 --> 1:37:51.080 idea that the perfect, the divine, came down and took 1:37:51.080 --> 1:37:54.080 a human form and died the most brutal death the 1:37:54.120 --> 1:37:56.679 ancient world knew the most tortuous, brutal death that someone 1:37:56.720 --> 1:37:58.680 could possibly know, and then rose in the dead the 1:37:58.720 --> 1:37:59.920 defeat deaths that you could live forever. 1:38:00.280 --> 1:38:00.880 And so it's a gift. 1:38:00.880 --> 1:38:02.360 They're right in front of you. If you take that gift, 1:38:02.439 --> 1:38:05.360 it transforms you from within, changes your life. You have 1:38:05.479 --> 1:38:08.280 joy and happiness that you otherwise would not have. But 1:38:08.400 --> 1:38:11.680 you have a conscious choice to reject that, and I 1:38:11.760 --> 1:38:14.360 hope you don't. And if you reject that, then you 1:38:14.439 --> 1:38:17.240 will go where you want to go, which is in 1:38:17.400 --> 1:38:20.240 absence and the furthest distance one can be from the Divine. 1:38:21.280 --> 1:38:22.320 I go to college. 1:38:22.040 --> 1:38:24.240 Campuses, and there's a lot of error. We're all sinners, 1:38:24.280 --> 1:38:26.840 we are all live in error. We as Christians are 1:38:26.960 --> 1:38:30.599 called to go into the public arena to correct error 1:38:31.080 --> 1:38:32.920 with truth. What is God's Planmen, I go on to 1:38:32.960 --> 1:38:35.360 college campus. I just believe I will only tell truth, 1:38:35.640 --> 1:38:38.360 I will not compromise, and I'll love on the loss. 1:38:38.680 --> 1:38:41.519 Purpose will give you happiness. You see, we live in 1:38:41.600 --> 1:38:44.600 a country where they think that happiness is pleasure. We 1:38:44.760 --> 1:38:47.719 know that purpose is above all of this, serving God, 1:38:47.960 --> 1:38:49.640 that we are made in this image, that there is 1:38:49.680 --> 1:38:52.040 a struggle of good versus evil. Every day you get 1:38:52.080 --> 1:38:53.479 to fight for what is good and what is true 1:38:53.479 --> 1:38:55.880 and beautiful. God should be the most important thing in 1:38:55.920 --> 1:38:58.000 your life. Jesus Christ is your lord and says your 1:38:58.040 --> 1:39:03.120 most important pot Beyond that, it's getting married, having children, 1:39:03.240 --> 1:39:05.960 building families, leaving a legacy, doing. 1:39:05.840 --> 1:39:06.880 Big and great things. 1:39:11.400 --> 1:39:15.280 Taking the deep, but sometimes the difficult road is the 1:39:15.400 --> 1:39:18.400 way that you should configure your life. Getting married and 1:39:18.560 --> 1:39:22.720 having children is a difficult but deep decision that I 1:39:22.800 --> 1:39:25.639 hope every single of you make, because for every single 1:39:25.680 --> 1:39:28.280 one of you, there are a couple thousand students that 1:39:28.439 --> 1:39:31.400 wish they could speak out like you do. Encourages a choice. 1:39:31.600 --> 1:39:35.920 We are no longer going to accept comfortable losing. We 1:39:36.000 --> 1:39:41.040 are no longer going to accept excuses from our elected officials. 1:39:41.400 --> 1:39:44.639 We have more combined political power than they have ever 1:39:45.080 --> 1:39:47.960 allowed us to believe. We are the party of people 1:39:48.040 --> 1:39:51.280 that shower before work and shower after work, the people 1:39:51.720 --> 1:39:55.439 that get their hands dirty, the people that protect our streets, 1:39:55.920 --> 1:39:58.719 the people that built this country. 1:39:59.000 --> 1:40:00.800 What can I do to say the country? Do you 1:40:00.960 --> 1:40:02.640 answer that question every single day? 1:40:02.720 --> 1:40:06.479 If you are doing the work to save this beautiful republic, 1:40:06.720 --> 1:40:14.480 you are doing something that is bigger than you. America 1:40:14.800 --> 1:40:17.120 is the greatest country ever to exist, period, bar none, 1:40:17.200 --> 1:40:18.719 is the greatest country ever to exist. 1:40:18.840 --> 1:40:24.679 Right I'm 1:40:31.840 --> 1:40:33.880 For more on many of these stories and news you 1:40:33.960 --> 1:40:35.760 can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.