1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Life Audio. Hey, John, thanks for joining me. Hey, thank 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Michael Victor having me in the audience. John er Win, 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: director of the hit film Young Washington, which Sean Tollywood 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: by finishing third over the fourth of July weekend. John, 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: describe your emotions when you realize that audiences were embracing 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: Young Washington and then as you watched her to become 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: a box office hit. I'm so grateful for the audience, 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: but you know it, felk Wait, You're gonna have to 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: stop using the word shocked, because the Middle American audience 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: is uh as our voice had been heard once again, 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: if he'll put it that way. And I'm just very 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: very rateful to everyone in Ghost and See movies. It's 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: why we get to make them, and also incredibly grateful 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: in that, you know, the laugh things that I've done 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: are the story that I've been dreaming of the longest 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: and I've been dreaming of doing the story of Paved 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: since I was sixteen years old, and I've been dreaming 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: of doing the story Washington for over a decade. And 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: I just really fell in love with the story of 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: the revolution and Washington specifically, and if I just really 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: was awt Druck by the party of our nation's birth, 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: you know, and our origin story. And I was filled 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: with such odd wonder and hope and stroopship you now 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: and so I think, you know, to be able to 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: tell those stories being just an honor. It's a privilege 26 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: of lifetime. And my hope is that the movie will 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: be for others you know what happened to me, which 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: is just a spark of turiofity that will be in 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: people's journey. You know that the film should pub me 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: the end of the journey. My hope within at the 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: beginning of the journey of learning about our nation again 32 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: and learning why we're here. I think so many of 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: the problems that we're having something the fact that we 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: don't know our origin story. One thing that stood out 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: to me, John was how Washington pushes back against the 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: colonial class system. It almost feels like a preview of 37 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: the America's rejection of royalty and class. Was it that 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: intentional in the film? Yeah, I mean that you really 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: do sate this moment where, you know, with his character 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: realized is just how unfair the world is, and so 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: hekes had to make a better one. And America really 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: is that place where anyone from anywhere should be able 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: to do anything. I mean, that's the idea, and it 44 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: wasn't always the case, you know, it was not a 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: fair system, and so I think I think it's just 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: it's very interesting to see that it was in this 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: chapter of his life where he would deny it intrigue 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: and he just wanted a world to be based off merit. 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: And that's the world that we created in America. And 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: you see that frustration in the young lack of was Washington. 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: That's absolutely accurate to his character at the time. There 52 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: was just you know, he was raising against an unfair world. 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: The film has earned praise for its historical accuracy. How 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: much research went into making sure that you got the 55 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: d tells right. Years of research went in, if you know, 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: I had a good fortune of just getting obsessed with 57 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: the story, but not in order to make a song out. 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: I just legitimately just loved the story and loved this 59 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: period of history, and so I read oh Man probably 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: thirty books, you know, over the course of several years, 61 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: and just really researched the time period for my felt 62 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: and I had incredible co writers and then also we 63 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: had incredible historians. Consoled on the project. In fact, there's 64 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: a YouTube video that Angel put out first time I've 65 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: ever been able to do something like this, where I 66 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: sat down for an hour with several of the historians 67 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: and consultants that were as obsessed with Washington as I 68 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: am and had written many great books on the issue. 69 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: And it was a fascinating It's a fascinating discussion, and 70 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: we got to discuss like, here are the things that 71 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: you decide when you adapt the true story, and here 72 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: are the changes you make, and here's the compression of time, 73 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: and you know, characters that you have to composit together 74 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: and all these things. And yet I've often I heard 75 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: her or Can say, you know, when you're doing a movie, 76 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: you're not trying to take the photograph. You're trying to 77 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: paint an accurate portrait of the character. And that really 78 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: was the question. So my hope is that anyone that 79 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: sees it understands that the movie was done with incredible 80 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: care and passion for Washington themselves and for our country. 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Do you see this film, John as one that everyone 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: can embrace the left and the right in our nation. Look, 83 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: I think this movie is a love letter to America. 84 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: That's why we made it, and we are all co 85 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: owners and co authors of the American experiment, and it 86 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: is still an experiment to this day. And one of 87 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: a word that was actually a truck out of the 88 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: decoration of the Independence was the word subject and it 89 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: was replaced for the word citizens. And that's such a concept. 90 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: You know, this is all of ours all, we all 91 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: own it together. And you know the fact that we 92 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: get to disagree and argue is one of the things 93 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: that makes America unique. And so even the fact that 94 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: we have a party system as Austraightia that can be 95 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: is one of the things that makes us unique because 96 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: we're able to disagree because we're all holders of the 97 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: company together. It's government of the people. And so one 98 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: of my hopes if the movie was just that it 99 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: couldn't create a place where we could celebrate the nation together. 100 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: It's imperfect, but it's still worth believing in, and it's 101 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: still a conflant quest to form a more perfect unit. 102 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: And and I believe that this is a movie for everyone. 103 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: Wors Washington is in the first founding father of America, 104 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: for every American and Battay, I hope the movie is 105 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: received and that will permit our heart making it to 106 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: create a reason for all of us to celebrate together. 107 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: You've announced the new film seventeen seventy six. That's it's 108 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: it's being written right now. Would you call it a 109 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: direct sequel to young Washington or kind of Will it 110 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: broaden the focus to America's founding and other key figures 111 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: or do you even know? Yeah, well it certainly that 112 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: is another chapter in which Washington is the central figure. 113 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: Now it's a different decades later, so it would be 114 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: a different cast. But it is the next great chapter 115 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: in his life that I want to tell, and it 116 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: will also broaden into an ensemble. So while he is 117 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: the Iron Man that avengers universe, the characters to me 118 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: by the time you get the seventy six and it's mean, 119 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, the largest amphibiously ever simbled in the history 120 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 1: of the world, with heshing mercenaries, was sent to crush 121 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: our rebellion, and that unstoppable forest hit an immovable object 122 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: that was Washington. And so I've wanted to tell that story, 123 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: and it's an incredible story. So you envision this, it's 124 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: becoming a larger series of patriotic films. In other words, 125 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: you have like third, fourth, fifth, chapter down the road 126 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: in your mind all free. There's so many stories that 127 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: are great. I mean there really are. Like the faunthing 128 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: of America is incredible. So while I'm taking it one 129 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: project at a time, the goal with doing Young Washington 130 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: on the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary was to allow 131 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: for America's story to be told again. I just think 132 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: the origin story of America need to be told again. 133 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: It's a torch passed down from generation to generation. So 134 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: my hope is that there's more films than television shows 135 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: I want to make on the subject matter. I hope 136 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: that other filmmakers will see the success of Washington and 137 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: there'll be other films in this category. But yeah, we 138 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: we just begun to fight and for the audience, and 139 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: just I'm so grateful for you, know what we sent 140 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: for so many years, and you've been so helpful to 141 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: us and getting a word out that your movie ticket 142 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: really is your vote. And once again we have spoken 143 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: with what matters to us. And so my hope is 144 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: that this will be the beginning of kind of reintroducing 145 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: America to itself through film entertainment. And I hope people 146 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: love the movie. I mean, we wanted to make an 147 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: action film that is meant for multiple generations, and it 148 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: really is. I've always considered it like Pride and Bridges 149 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: needs the Revenant, and it's exciting, hopefully, and it's entertaining. 150 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: But in my opinion, you can't help but be proud 151 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: of our country and those that founded it. You know, 152 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: win the credits roll on this movie, and I think 153 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: that there's several other stories that would have that same reaction. 154 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: If you like today's episode, please subscribe and leave a 155 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: five star review. That's how we help more people just 156 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: like you find the show. A big thanks to the 157 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: team at life Audio for their partnership with us on 158 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: the podcast. If you go to lifeaudio dot com, you 159 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: will find dozens of other faith centered podcasts in their network. 160 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: See you next time,