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Speaker 2: Alex Marlow in for Hugh. Yet again, very grateful to
Speaker 2: my friend and mentor Hugh for allowing me the opportunity
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Speaker 2: I mean a lot to get you, Davia. Some great
Speaker 2: guests lined up. We got Josh Holmes from the Ruthless Podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm a Ruthless Podcast listener, David Drucker from The Dispatch,
Speaker 2: Eleana Johnson Byron York. Good stuff, a lot of punditree
Speaker 2: coming up, and a lot of stories. We'll talk a
Speaker 2: little politics today. It's an election day, particularly out in Arizona.
Speaker 2: People keeping a close eye on those races. We've got
Speaker 2: some movement in the South Carolina race where Lindsey Graham
Speaker 2: Seed opened up and now his sister is declared that
Speaker 2: she will be running for the full spectrum. She wants
Speaker 2: the six years, she wants the election, not just the appointment.
Speaker 3: And then we'll.
Speaker 2: Also talking about how the Democrats are trying to reduce
Speaker 2: our military budget even in the middle of wartime. Why
Speaker 2: are they doing this Because anything Republicans want, they have
Speaker 2: to stop it. That is the name of the game.
Speaker 2: And how do we get around that, What do we
Speaker 2: do and who does that actually serve in this midterm
Speaker 2: election year. But we'll start with something that is pretty
Speaker 2: unbelievable that's happening that which is that the Smithsonian has
Speaker 2: been outed as a very woke entity. And this is
Speaker 2: going on right now as we're having this conversation, as
Speaker 2: we're recording live, there's a hearing going on over the
Speaker 2: National Museum of American History where all sorts of findings
Speaker 2: have indicated that there's all sorts of trans stuff, sexualizing
Speaker 2: of the children, and all sorts of wokeism that's taking
Speaker 2: place within our arguably our most important constellation of museums
Speaker 2: here is a just unbelievable moment, and I'll try to
Speaker 2: cut in and give some commentary, but I want to
Speaker 2: play this one.
Speaker 3: This is Brandon Gil the congressman.
Speaker 2: Who is one of the most capable at politely but
Speaker 2: devastatingly questioning people on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this one's freezing up.
Speaker 2: So this is in the clip when we get to
Speaker 2: it is rand and Gil who is talking to Smithsonian
Speaker 2: Director Heartig with a pretty devastating line of questioning. But
Speaker 2: before we do that, we can play why don't we
Speaker 2: play cut six?
Speaker 4: Is Mickey Mouse racist?
Speaker 5: Mickey Mouse is not racist.
Speaker 4: It's not racist.
Speaker 6: According to the Smithsonian Institution, one of your exhibits reference
Speaker 6: to Mickey Mouse is representing quote vestiges of long standing
Speaker 6: traditions of blackface minstrelsy.
Speaker 4: Would you describe that as racist?
Speaker 5: No, the historical trajectory of the origins of Mickey Mouse tied.
Speaker 6: Directly Mickey Mouse's is rooted in racism.
Speaker 4: Is that you're.
Speaker 6: Testimony, it's rooted in menstrully minstrelsing. You don't think the
Speaker 6: blackface minstrelsy is racist.
Speaker 5: And it's certain obvious racial overtones that have been well documented.
Speaker 6: Think that's problematic that Mickey Mouse also has those racial overtones.
Speaker 5: It's not for me to determine what's problematic. It's determined
Speaker 5: to me what's accurate.
Speaker 4: Is that? Right? Right?
Speaker 2: Well, yay, let's say what I think of racism. One
Speaker 2: of the first things I think about is Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 2: That's number one.
Speaker 3: Look, this is what they have to do. This is
Speaker 3: what the left does that.
Speaker 2: Are at this moment in our in our in our heritage.
Speaker 2: What's happening is that they go after everything that made
Speaker 2: America unique and special. They have to destroy our national myth.
Speaker 2: You see this example again and again. And I was
Speaker 2: just playing a clip on my live show today of
Speaker 2: Abdulla Lsiu Memel play it later on he show. But
Speaker 2: he's going through just a laundry list, like chat ept
Speaker 2: spit it out of all the horrible things about this country,
Speaker 2: from slavery to Jim Crow to women not being equal.
Speaker 2: He don't care about any of these things. He's just
Speaker 2: a self aggrandizer who's trying to get elected. But all
Speaker 2: he wants to do is he's running on a platform
Speaker 2: that America is not only not that great, it's a
Speaker 2: uniquely horrible place. And that's why our own museums are
Speaker 2: not promoting stuff that beautifies, glorifies, makes us feel good
Speaker 2: about our country. No, what we're doing is we're putting
Speaker 2: out we're reminding people that actually you may have missed it,
Speaker 2: but Mickey, that guy's really racist. And don't even get
Speaker 2: me started about Donald. All right, let's play we got
Speaker 2: cut one go and here's Congressman Gil with a director heart.
Speaker 7: Take here.
Speaker 6: We got history, even if it's not properly carried out.
Speaker 6: Would you say that the goal of history is to
Speaker 6: be objective?
Speaker 5: Thank you, sir for the question. You know, I think
Speaker 5: that there are many goals of history, and certainly, as
Speaker 5: you collect, as we do examine evidence.
Speaker 4: Creates objectivity one of the goals of history.
Speaker 5: We strive to be objective and nonpartisan and not based
Speaker 5: on any idea.
Speaker 6: It's one of the goals. Doesn't that seem a little
Speaker 6: bit concerning? It certainly does to me, because as part
Speaker 6: of this White Supremacy Document that your organization has promoted
Speaker 6: objectivity as a core and defining aspect of white supremacy culture.
Speaker 6: Do you think that it's the goal of the Smithsonian
Speaker 6: Institution to promote white supremacy culture?
Speaker 5: Sir? Do you mind sharing with me, which document.
Speaker 6: White supremacy culture right here. This is part of the
Speaker 6: mass action toolkit that your organization has promoted for several
Speaker 6: years now.
Speaker 3: And so this is part of from this White House
Speaker 3: report that.
Speaker 2: Recently came out that they release called Saving America's Story,
Speaker 2: great title, how they came up with that, but they
Speaker 2: gave specific examples of alleged ideological content within our museums,
Speaker 2: and one of them was staff resources in reading groups
Speaker 2: sponsored by the Smithsonian that addressed white supremacy culture. This
Speaker 2: goes through a list that they have including immigration related
Speaker 2: programming from teachers, resources to promote DAKA, which is Amnesty
Speaker 2: for Legal aliens, featuring stories of illegal alien individuals, and
Speaker 2: partnering with illegal alien activist groups. They exhibit material that's
Speaker 2: described as advancing trans and gender fluid themes. I bought
Speaker 2: some of that momentarily. And they have partnerships with groups
Speaker 2: like the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is not only
Speaker 2: a group that targets organizations like Breitbart and Turning Point
Speaker 2: and Prager You and all sorts of things that are
Speaker 2: very normative for conservatives. But we now learned recently that
Speaker 2: they astroturfed the Unite the Right rally, which started the
Speaker 2: whole Charlottesville hoax where Trump That led to Trump saying
Speaker 2: they're fine Nazis, which of course he never said.
Speaker 3: There's all a big hoaks and a lot of that.
Speaker 2: We learned that a lot of the people who were
Speaker 2: there were funded by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which
Speaker 2: is partnering with our own Smithsonium. And this is a
Speaker 2: really good thing to point out because this is a
Speaker 2: huge opportunity with President Trump as the president, because you know,
Speaker 2: any Democrat or any lazier Republican would never bother addressing
Speaker 2: any of this stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's good to see it. Let's hear more from
Speaker 3: Congressman gil.
Speaker 4: My promoting a wife man. This this a difficult question, No.
Speaker 5: Srue, I'm just thinking about the mass action toolkit. We
Speaker 5: didn't develop it. But back to your question, no, we're
Speaker 5: not promoting any ideology.
Speaker 6: Does it concern you that your goal is objectivity? One
Speaker 6: of your goals is objectivity, and your mass action toolkit
Speaker 6: references objectivity is a defining characteristic of white supremacy culture.
Speaker 4: It's not our toolkit, it is your toolkit.
Speaker 6: You You've been promoting it for quite some time.
Speaker 2: So just to recap what we've seen thus far, is
Speaker 2: that Congressman Gil has said that it is objectivity important.
Speaker 3: She says, we strive to be objective.
Speaker 2: And then he says, your document says objectivity is white supremacy.
Speaker 2: She spends a lot of time thinking about that one,
Speaker 2: and then he cuts in and says, that is a
Speaker 2: difficult question. You're promoting white supremacy at the Smithsonian. And
Speaker 2: she looks like it wasn't my stuff. Well, it really is.
Speaker 2: This person, Anthahartig, is to this stuff. Literally, she is
Speaker 2: the Smithsonian director.
Speaker 3: That's what she does. She directs the Smithsonian. So it's
Speaker 3: pretty devastating. Let's continue. It's painful, but we got to
Speaker 3: keep going. Let's go, guys.
Speaker 4: It's sir, but you've been promoting it.
Speaker 5: It is used as a reference, I believe, probably in
Speaker 5: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: Yes, under your leadership, it has been used as a reference.
Speaker 6: Is Mickey Mouse racist?
Speaker 5: Mickey Mouse is not racist?
Speaker 3: All right, red Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 2: Part So we will cut ahead, and when we come
Speaker 2: back from the break, we're going to talk to Josh
Speaker 2: Holmes from Ruthless. But then in the following seven we'll
Speaker 2: pick up from there, guys, you can skip head. So
Speaker 2: we have to do the Mickey Mouse part again. But
Speaker 2: we're just getting going here. A timber chat bringing up
Speaker 2: pictures of bondage sexually transgender stuff. A six year old
Speaker 2: girl asked why she doesn't have meal Genitulia. Also in
Speaker 2: the clip of Congressman Gil, the Smithsonian Institution is selling
Speaker 2: Latina power merchandise.
Speaker 3: Woke is not dead, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: This is major thing here. It's been a theme on
Speaker 2: The Marlow Show for a while, and I'm making a
Speaker 2: theme on the Huge Show for today. Woke at best
Speaker 2: is latent. It's waiting to re emerge. Maybe it's even
Speaker 2: incubating and getting stronger behind the scenes. And we need
Speaker 2: to make examples of these people. We need to call
Speaker 2: them out over and over again. We need to be
Speaker 2: relentless about this, tireless about it. This is not American values.
Speaker 2: This is contraar to American values. And we're fighting back
Speaker 2: here in the Hugh Hwit Show.
Speaker 3: I'm Alex Marlow. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Ring back to work on the Hugh Huge Show. Alex
Speaker 2: Marlow in for Hugh. Josh Holmes is on with me now.
Speaker 3: He's the co.
Speaker 2: Host of the Ruthless Variety Program, Josh, really nice to
Speaker 2: make your acquaintance. I'm a Ruthless Variety Show enjoyer. And
Speaker 2: I got off my show, my live show earlier today,
Speaker 2: and I played a clip of Melot kiro socialist Democrat,
Speaker 2: talking about how we don't have enough immigrants in the
Speaker 2: United States Congress. And then I turned on the Ruthless
Speaker 2: Variety Program my long drive down from Glenn Delle to
Speaker 2: Orange County, and you guys played the same clip.
Speaker 3: But this is so important. I think this is really
Speaker 3: one of the most.
Speaker 2: Stories of the moment. Here's some of the quote. There's
Speaker 2: a certain reckoning that we're going to have to have
Speaker 2: with the global world order, a reckoning. And then she concludes,
Speaker 2: this means getting more people who have heritage in the
Speaker 2: global South into office, not with American heritage, heritage in
Speaker 2: the global South.
Speaker 3: This is a big deal. It's a huge deal.
Speaker 8: Well, it unites a couple of things that the left
Speaker 8: is doing simultaneously. The first is, of course the illegal
Speaker 8: immigration and to what ends that meet, and it's their
Speaker 8: perversion of.
Speaker 9: Our census and our awarding.
Speaker 8: Of federal dollars and representation, and of course the more
Speaker 8: illegal immigrants that you can have somewhere, the more representation
Speaker 8: that you get on a far left liberal democratic dogma.
Speaker 8: But this whole issue of the global South is I
Speaker 8: think much more pervasive than any of us would like
Speaker 8: to admit, and that what's driving a lot of these
Speaker 8: DSA socialists is this anti Western civilization mentality that is
Speaker 8: at its core just frankly anti American, and it has
Speaker 8: become the dominant force within the Democrat Party today.
Speaker 9: And it's a very, very scary proposition.
Speaker 2: You're right about this, And I started the show and
Speaker 2: I'm doing a monologue about the Smithsonian and all of
Speaker 2: the anti Americanism in our own Smithsonian.
Speaker 3: And then you've got prominent Democrats.
Speaker 2: Who are either elected or the verge of being elected,
Speaker 2: saying we need to not just replace American workers, but
Speaker 2: we need to actually replace the American representatives in our Congress.
Speaker 2: You guys had a great point on your show about
Speaker 2: supposed to be the United States of America. We're supposed
Speaker 2: to have representation from all over our states, and we're like, no,
Speaker 2: that's not good enough. We need to actually have people
Speaker 2: from other countries. And I feel like I'm taking crazy
Speaker 2: pills here. When I'm saying that this is not exactly
Speaker 2: what the design should be, well, of course, it's not
Speaker 2: what the design has ever been.
Speaker 3: And you know it used to be.
Speaker 9: When I started in politics.
Speaker 8: It used to be you had two different ideologies that
Speaker 8: tried to get at the same agreed upon problem.
Speaker 3: Right, it was either usually a.
Speaker 8: Larger government solution to the ills of society or a
Speaker 8: smaller government, market based solution.
Speaker 9: The left no longer is that it's destroy America.
Speaker 8: It destroys values, destroy our constitution, and destroy its very
Speaker 8: residents and citizenship. Therein in our ability to control our
Speaker 8: own future. If you import enough of people who harbor
Speaker 8: ill will towards Western civilization in the United States of
Speaker 8: America specifically, you can fundamentally.
Speaker 9: Uproot what has made this country the greatest country.
Speaker 10: In the world.
Speaker 9: And that is the goal that they are professing.
Speaker 2: So you and I both mutually have fun on our
Speaker 2: respective programs making fun of the Democrats socials of America.
Speaker 3: That's a good thing.
Speaker 2: But who wins the Democrats civil war? Is it the
Speaker 2: establishment or is it the socialist I think I know
Speaker 2: the answer. You tell me who wins, and then tell
Speaker 2: me is that a good thing.
Speaker 8: Or well, look, I'm going to put my chips in
Speaker 8: the DSA at this point, in large part because it's
Speaker 8: been thirty long years since there has ever been a
Speaker 8: moderating force in Democrat politics. Either the furthest reaches of
Speaker 8: the far left win or they negotiate a surrender with
Speaker 8: a ruling establishment Democratic class in which their agenda is
Speaker 8: put forward, as in the case of Joe Biden. Right,
Speaker 8: So it's winning by losing in that case, I think
Speaker 8: if you look at the trajectory of the Democratic Party
Speaker 8: over the last three decades, this has always been heading
Speaker 8: off the left hand side of the map. Increasingly they
Speaker 8: have little or no respect or alignment with the center
Speaker 8: of this country. They've made that abundantly clear, and it's
Speaker 8: ruled by this coastal elite university professor types who.
Speaker 9: Don't like America.
Speaker 8: And that I mean, I wouldn't love to run a
Speaker 8: domestic election like that, which is again, why are they
Speaker 8: trying to change all the inputs right exactly?
Speaker 2: And so this is the point that I'm raising, which
Speaker 2: is that it's fun for now to watch them actually
Speaker 2: have a civil war, but if an anti American faction
Speaker 2: of their party wins out, it does raise the stakes.
Speaker 3: It seems like they're easier to defeat. Yeah, but if we.
Speaker 2: Don't defeat them, then America really is going to be
Speaker 2: fundamentally transformed.
Speaker 8: Well, there's no question in this why you got to
Speaker 8: stay vigilant about it. I mean, just consider that.
Speaker 3: AOC She's a perfect case study in this.
Speaker 8: I mean, just a few years ago, everybody on the
Speaker 8: conservative side just laughed out loud every time she opened
Speaker 8: her up one because it's funny too, because she has
Speaker 8: this sort of a historical, complete lunacy view of the
Speaker 8: United States and what it is that we do here.
Speaker 8: She is now alex in the center of that party.
Speaker 8: She's being credited with brokering the DSA and the establishment.
Speaker 3: She's the tie that binds.
Speaker 8: This is a person that everybody thought was so crazy
Speaker 8: that they couldn't even believe that she was on television talking.
Speaker 8: Now she is I think the odds on favorite to
Speaker 8: be the next nominee.
Speaker 9: On the Democrats side for President of the United States.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think if she wants it, she's there's a clear
Speaker 2: path for her, very clear path, And I think that
Speaker 2: definitely let's put a pin in that. Let's talk again
Speaker 2: about that down the road. But I do think her
Speaker 2: real skill set is her willingness to be able to
Speaker 2: shift accents at a moment's notice to try to.
Speaker 3: Court different groups of people.
Speaker 10: See.
Speaker 3: But there's something that it's so brazen.
Speaker 2: It's I can't tell if she's trolling us, if she's
Speaker 2: just tempting all of us to waste our entire shows
Speaker 2: talking about it. But it's just NonStop, just she can
Speaker 2: speak a different language to a different audience. We've never
Speaker 2: seen anything like in American politics. It is truly a skill.
Speaker 2: So here's the point, though, is that they're offering a
Speaker 2: vision for America. The left that America is a uniquely
Speaker 2: horrible place has always been horrible. We were both at
Speaker 2: the Defense Innovation Summit in Pennsylvania last.
Speaker 3: Week, and it's the opposite.
Speaker 2: The right is offering we're innovating, we're building, We're going
Speaker 2: to conquer things we never thought possible. But is that
Speaker 2: message getting out? Are we getting the message out? We
Speaker 2: have this very fun, this fun vision for our country
Speaker 2: that we are best days are in front of us.
Speaker 2: Is that coming through to people?
Speaker 9: No, I don't think it's coming through at all.
Speaker 8: I think we've got to double down and make sure
Speaker 8: that it is because I left that sum at Alex
Speaker 8: probably like you, totally re energize far out the prospects
Speaker 8: of getting America back to where we had been for decades,
Speaker 8: which is the leader of the free world. We're doing
Speaker 8: things no one else can do. We're thinking of innovation
Speaker 8: in a way that no one else can possibly compete with.
Speaker 8: We're bringing all those ideas into fruition with a manufacturing
Speaker 8: base that can actually produce better than anyone else in
Speaker 8: the world. We're not fighting nineteen fifties battles. We're doing
Speaker 8: twenty thirty to twenty two hundred. And that is where
Speaker 8: the Republican Party of the conservative movement need to be
Speaker 8: in order to sell the optimism. We can't be victim
Speaker 8: class culture complaining about what everybody on the left wants
Speaker 8: to do to us. Show people a little of the
Speaker 8: vision that you and I experienced at the Defense Forum,
Speaker 8: and I guarantee you people are going to be pretty
Speaker 8: excited about it.
Speaker 3: Okay, we got a minute.
Speaker 2: This is a tough one because this is I think
Speaker 2: speaks to my exact point that's specific here Save America Act.
Speaker 2: There's multiple versions of it. The bottom line is conservatives
Speaker 2: one voter ID and proof recistionship to vote. There is
Speaker 2: not a good path forward and this makes people in
Speaker 2: my audience pull their hair out that Republicans can't get
Speaker 2: an ID locked in.
Speaker 3: Do you see a path for us to complete this?
Speaker 3: I don't at this point, I really don't.
Speaker 8: And it's but you have to start with the fact
Speaker 8: that the Democrat Party has told Americans, who approve of
Speaker 8: all this by an eighty twenty margin, that they don't
Speaker 8: think it's appropriate to show a photo ID to vote.
Speaker 8: You got to do it to buy Barry, you got
Speaker 8: to do it to buy cigarettes. I mean, we just
Speaker 8: read the Olive gard and you can't even get a
Speaker 8: full pasta without a photo idea in your pasta card.
Speaker 3: I mean, it is just a no brainer.
Speaker 8: But the problem is that we haven't had this national discussion.
Speaker 8: You saw Mark Warner on the Sunday Shows answer this
Speaker 8: question for the first This is a question that every
Speaker 8: Democrat needs to be facing every single day if we're
Speaker 8: doing our job.
Speaker 2: Josh Awns, Ruthlith Variety program, wherever you get your podcast,
Speaker 2: Really nice to have you on the Huite Show.
Speaker 3: I'll be right back, all right.
Speaker 2: Alex marlow In for Hugh. David Drucker is on with me.
Speaker 2: He's at David M. Drucker on X the Everything app.
Speaker 2: He's a senior writer for The Dispatch. David, you did
Speaker 2: some reporting from Michigan where you followed along what you
Speaker 2: frame up as a pragmatist candidate and a populist candidate,
Speaker 2: and this is a fascinating.
Speaker 3: Thing that we're all tracking.
Speaker 2: Abduel said and his rising campaign, which seems to stand
Speaker 2: for pretty much anything that he thinks is going to
Speaker 2: get him attention versus Haley Stevens, who seems much more
Speaker 2: sort of normal, at least relative to Democrats. What are
Speaker 2: the key touchstones in this race that you're seeing and
Speaker 2: you feel like this could be some sort of a
Speaker 2: proxy for what the Democrats are going through at a
Speaker 2: grander scale here.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I definitely think Alex that it's a
Speaker 7: key race in the sort of intermural squabble that Democrats
Speaker 7: are having right now that are sort of to me
Speaker 7: reminiscent of what Republicans went through in the Tea Party era,
Speaker 7: with Tea Party Republicans as they define themselves, you know,
Speaker 7: hashing it out with so called establishment Republicans and party officials.
Speaker 7: And look, if an l Saeed can win a Senate
Speaker 7: primary in a swing state like Michigan, that's a much
Speaker 7: bigger deal than winning a Democratic primary in a blue
Speaker 7: district in a house race, right, I mean, it's a
Speaker 7: much bigger deal. You're in the Senate, you have more power,
Speaker 7: you have more influence, you have more attention. And I
Speaker 7: think that people shouldn't fool themselves into thinking that a
Speaker 7: duel L Site can't win in Michigan in a general
Speaker 7: election in twenty twenty six. He absolutely can. It's likely
Speaker 7: the Jocelyn Benson, the Secretary of State who's going to
Speaker 7: be the Democratic nominee for governor, you know, will win
Speaker 7: that race by about six to eight to nine points,
Speaker 7: maybe seven or eight points. That's going to be a
Speaker 7: lot of updraft for I'll say, even if there's some
Speaker 7: drop off for various reasons. But he's a very good politician.
Speaker 7: He is very personable, he's very likable, he's very charismatic,
Speaker 7: and he's running on a simple message that if you
Speaker 7: didn't know who he was, except for the third prong,
Speaker 7: you know, you wouldn't be that upset with it. Right,
Speaker 7: Money out of politics, money in your pocket, Medicare for
Speaker 7: all and it's kitchy, and you know you can. You
Speaker 7: can dig into it and find a lot of flaws,
Speaker 7: as I do in the story. But people are very
Speaker 7: attracted generally to this idea that money is a problem
Speaker 7: in politics. I find this on both sides of the
Speaker 7: aisle of voters, and hey, money in my pocket at
Speaker 7: a time of a persistent inflation that really works. So
Speaker 7: it's the other views. But I wanted to bring this
Speaker 7: up to say that he is not necessarily reading as
Speaker 7: extreme to everybody. And when I interviewed a lot of
Speaker 7: voters at one of his rallies, like nobody's maybe one
Speaker 7: person and maybe and I'm not recalling here, brought up
Speaker 7: Israel and the fact that he doesn't believe Israel has
Speaker 7: a right to exist. Yeah, and he seems to be
Speaker 7: fixated on Israel. They brought up everything else, And I
Speaker 7: think for some voters, his opposition at Israel and willing
Speaker 7: to say it is like a signal that he's not
Speaker 7: going to be a goal along to get along. That's
Speaker 7: a typical populous thing. He believes it. I don't think
Speaker 7: he's saying it just for fun, but I think for
Speaker 7: a lot of voters. They're like, yeah, I guess he
Speaker 7: believes it, but you know, I don't know if I
Speaker 7: agree with him, but it just shows you he's not
Speaker 7: going to be a goal along to get along, and
Speaker 7: so I think that's just a way to understand what's
Speaker 7: going on in his primary.
Speaker 2: So and Haley Stephens, she's got this sort of folksiness
Speaker 2: to her, which is is just not as appealing from
Speaker 2: a content perspective. It just Heed's much more captivating to
Speaker 2: an audience. I see that completely. His ideology, though it
Speaker 2: seems a little bit incoherent that he wants things to
Speaker 2: be cheaper, but he wants Medicare for all, which is
Speaker 2: going to be a huge tax hike in order to
Speaker 2: have such a thing. He wants socialism, but he also
Speaker 2: likes an open border. He won't condemn the Iyahtola, and
Speaker 2: he just seems to name check a path can go
Speaker 2: after the Jews whenever he possibly can, using code of course.
Speaker 2: But it's very clear where he stands on that stuff.
Speaker 2: And none of this speaks to me that he's got
Speaker 2: some sort of core ideology other than that he's just
Speaker 2: trying to win a primary from the left. So then
Speaker 2: my question is you spoke to a lot of people
Speaker 2: who are supporting him. What is resonating to them with him.
Speaker 7: Well, he says that the worst part of politics, the
Speaker 7: thing that is ruining American politics is donor money. Now,
Speaker 7: he focuses a lot on Apack, but he doesn't just
Speaker 7: mean Apack. And I can't tell you how many Republican
Speaker 7: and Democratic voters I talk to over the years. They
Speaker 7: just think the fact that wealthy donors can give money,
Speaker 7: or that organizations can give money. They also have a
Speaker 7: misunderstanding of campaign finance law, and they think corporations are
Speaker 7: sending big checks to politicians. You know, there are limits,
Speaker 7: there are laws, there are regulations. Nobody understands any of this.
Speaker 7: They just look at the system. And I am not
Speaker 7: here defending members of Congress or presidents, but what I'm
Speaker 7: telling you is that everybody thinks they're running around an
Speaker 7: SUV's eating bond bonds and you know, living at the ritz,
Speaker 7: and it's just not the case. There are laws, and
Speaker 7: when you hear about the crooks that are caught, it's
Speaker 7: because the law is working. But look, aside from all
Speaker 7: of that, Alex, that's what's resonating. Plus, he focuses so
Speaker 7: much on inflation that is resonating. And I think he
Speaker 7: does believe some of these things. But like a lot
Speaker 7: of slippery politicians, he says things and then doesn't follow through.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: I asked him, okay, you want to abolish ICE. Okay, fine,
Speaker 7: but like, how are we going to do immigration enforcement?
Speaker 7: Because you just said we should keep doing it? And
Speaker 7: he said, well, we should start from scratch. I said how.
Speaker 7: He said, well, it's a young agency. We did it
Speaker 7: before ICE. Why can't we do it after us? He said,
Speaker 7: fair enough? How he didn't have an answer when I
Speaker 7: asked him how he was going to how much Medicare
Speaker 7: for All was going to cost. I didn't even say
Speaker 7: how are you going to pay for it? I just
Speaker 7: said what's it.
Speaker 10: Going to cost?
Speaker 7: He said, I know, but I'm not going to tell
Speaker 7: you because you're going to use it against me.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: So he does things like this, but he's good at talking.
Speaker 7: And I'll say, look, Haley Stevens, you can like her,
Speaker 7: you can not like her. She is of a pre
Speaker 7: of a sort of previous era, if you will, that
Speaker 7: believes in legislating, and that means compromises that are often uncomfortable.
Speaker 7: But it's the only way you legislated in the US
Speaker 7: Congress and get presidents to sign things. And you know,
Speaker 7: to her credit, she's running on who she is and
Speaker 7: what she is, and so is he. It's just going
Speaker 7: to be what are voters really interested in and who
Speaker 7: actually votes, because there are a lot of voters in
Speaker 7: Michigan that you know, are going to find the traditional
Speaker 7: candidate appealing. There are lots that won't. And it's my
Speaker 7: sources we're telling me, you know, it's it's the old pliche.
Speaker 7: Depends on turnup and like who turns out and how
Speaker 7: many of them from different pockets in Michigan, And that's
Speaker 7: going to tell us a lot about who was motivated
Speaker 7: to show up and who wasn't, which will tell us
Speaker 7: a lot about the intraurial fight democrats are having right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's interesting because it looks like a lot
Speaker 2: of the top party brass in Michigan are behind Stevens
Speaker 2: and a lot of the sort of trendy, your more
Speaker 2: headline friendly socialist Democrats are behind from.
Speaker 7: Out of state, yeah, yeah, and from out of state,
Speaker 7: from out of state exact, Gary Peters, Gary Peters, his indoors,
Speaker 7: Tailey Stevens right, Dana Nessel, the state Attorney general indors
Speaker 7: Tailey Stevens, and we'll see what more comes. But you know,
Speaker 7: part of it is where their party is. It may
Speaker 7: turn out that he wins this big or small, it
Speaker 7: may turn out that he loses big or small. But
Speaker 7: I do think it's indicative of a party that, for
Speaker 7: the first time post Barack Obama is having a real
Speaker 7: debate over whom they want to be when they grow up.
Speaker 2: David Drucker, I'm gonna call an audible hill here if
Speaker 2: you want to hang through the break, I'd love to
Speaker 2: ask you some of your recent reporting.
Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom as well.
Speaker 2: But a great story out in the Dispatch. Do Michigan
Speaker 2: Democrats when populism or pragmatism? You all should check it out.
Speaker 2: I'm Alex Marlow intercuw. I will be right back, all right,
Speaker 2: Marlow here infrahuwe it. David Drucker is on with me
Speaker 2: at David M. Drucker on XT Everything app. He also
Speaker 2: is a senior writer for the Dispatcheries and a lot
Speaker 2: of reporting on Michigan in California of late Last Word
Speaker 2: on Michigan, David, before I turned briefly to California. Do
Speaker 2: you have a prediction and who's going to win that
Speaker 2: race in the Democrats set in primary?
Speaker 7: No, I don't have a prediction. I walked away feeling
Speaker 7: like it seemed like the LSA campaign had more energy.
Speaker 7: But I just don't know what to make of it.
Speaker 7: My sources couldn't really give me a good handle on it.
Speaker 7: But he clearly seems to have more energy and enthusiasm
Speaker 7: on his.
Speaker 3: Campaign, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: And the question is does the one energetic voter does
Speaker 2: not outweigh two unenergetic voters. So let's see where it goes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we're tracking it very carefully, all right. So Gavin Newsom,
Speaker 2: who's my governor out here in California, also has proven
Speaker 2: to be a bit of a conundrum because in some
Speaker 2: ways he looks like the frontrunner for the Democratic Party,
Speaker 2: but also seems like the more he talks, the more
Speaker 2: he goes down in the polls. I find him on
Speaker 2: endlessly frustrating here or as a Californian, because he's always
Speaker 2: first out there on social media whenever Trump does something
Speaker 2: to announce how horrible it is and how horrible Trump is.
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, there are no houses that are
Speaker 2: rebuilt in Malibu on the iconic coastline there after the
Speaker 2: fire from a year and a half ago. None of
Speaker 2: the problems in our state have improved under his watch,
Speaker 2: from homelessness to crime, to traffic, to the worst airports
Speaker 2: to the school system. It's all horrible. It's all getting worse.
Speaker 2: But I guess you don't have to have a good
Speaker 2: record to run for president. First of all, is he running?
Speaker 2: And second of all is he winning?
Speaker 7: Yeah, too early to say, too early to say is
Speaker 7: he winning or losing? Is he running? I'm pretty sure
Speaker 7: he's running. Everybody that I talked to in Sacramento believes
Speaker 7: he's running, and they believe that the final few years
Speaker 7: of his second term have been geared towards preparing him
Speaker 7: to launch a presidential campaign, which is like different than
Speaker 7: how they described his first term and early in his
Speaker 7: second term. So that's what clearly everybody that observes him
Speaker 7: up close thinks. You know, you said, do you need
Speaker 7: to be, you know, have a good record to run
Speaker 7: for president? I mean you're usually you're better off if
Speaker 7: you have no record, and people can imagine anything they want.
Speaker 7: There's nothing attack. You know, people like political outsiders. They
Speaker 7: don't like anybody who actually has any experience governing, just
Speaker 7: if you want to look at it from a pure
Speaker 7: political perspective. But look, you know what I found interesting
Speaker 7: about Gavin Newswim is ever, just about everybody that I
Speaker 7: talked to Alex told me they didn't know what to
Speaker 7: make of him. I said, look, do you think he's liberal,
Speaker 7: do you think he's progressive, do you think he's moderate,
Speaker 7: you think he's centrist? And everybody said, I don't know.
Speaker 7: And then I said, what do you think his signature
Speaker 7: initiative is? You know, not just he's obviously signed a
Speaker 7: lot of bills and he's had a lot of initiatives.
Speaker 7: What is his signature initiative after two year two terms?
Speaker 7: I don't know. And I think one of the reasons
Speaker 7: why he is a front runner for the nomination if
Speaker 7: he runs, is because he is better at most than
Speaker 7: most Democrats at doing one particular thing. Giving Democratic voters
Speaker 7: the catharsis regarding Donald Trump that they have felt every
Speaker 7: day for the past eleven years, and it's why voters
Speaker 7: in California have overlooked the problems that haven't been solved.
Speaker 2: Very well stated, you should check out all David's reporting
Speaker 2: at the Dispatch.
Speaker 3: The Paradox of Gavenue s is the article we're referencing
Speaker 3: just now go check it out online. Thanks David, appreciates
Speaker 3: you show with Alex marlow in for Hugh Today and
Speaker 3: grateful to be here.
Speaker 2: Eleana Johnson is on the line with me. She's the
Speaker 2: editor in chief of the Washington Freebeacon. Eleana, it's great
Speaker 2: to have you on. I want to talk to you
Speaker 2: about a couple of items you've been reporting on personally,
Speaker 2: and one of them is for all of us. We
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time online. There's something very confusing
Speaker 2: that goes on. Is it still feels like the vast
Speaker 2: majority of Republican voters who are talked to genuinely like
Speaker 2: Israel and still believe in Israel and see all the
Speaker 2: craziness that people spout about Israel as insane, and yet
Speaker 2: you go on the internet and you would think, well,
Speaker 2: maybe Hamas really has got a case now, and maybe
Speaker 2: we really have got to hear out what they've got
Speaker 2: to say. Maybe October the seventh, and quite as bad
Speaker 2: as the news reports were, what's the truth? You've done
Speaker 2: a lot of reporting on this lately.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Alex.
Speaker 11: It's a great point, and I think it's a case
Speaker 11: of Twitter is not reality. A freebeacon poll that we
Speaker 11: did with our partners at Echelon Insight really found that
Speaker 11: Republican primary voters remain supportive of Israel and of President
Speaker 11: Trump's more active and muscular foreign policy by large margins.
Speaker 11: They support a strong US Israel relationship by a margin
Speaker 11: of fifty seven percentage point, and they also support a
Speaker 11: president who explicitly explicitly denounces anti Semitism by a margin
Speaker 11: of fifty two percentage points. Our top lines allow readers,
Speaker 11: and I encourage people to go read this poll for
Speaker 11: themselves to see the breakdown by age. And I think
Speaker 11: it is true that on both the right and the left,
Speaker 11: there is more skepticism of Israel among young voters, and
Speaker 11: those are the people more likely to be vocal and
Speaker 11: loud and active on X. But I think it would
Speaker 11: be a mistake to confuse those people for the broad segment,
Speaker 11: you know, as representative of the Republican primary.
Speaker 9: Voters as a whole.
Speaker 11: In fact, those most likely to vote, as we know,
Speaker 11: are the oldest among us rather than the youngest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an important point, and that's why when
Speaker 2: anyone wants to point out people who have audiences that
Speaker 2: are skewing older, like, for example, you know, Hughes not
Speaker 2: exactly the youngest guy in the world. I always love
Speaker 2: speaking to Hughes audience because I can guarantee you one
Speaker 2: hundred percent of the people and Hughes audience are voting
Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: It's very important, and.
Speaker 2: A lot of these people are popping up online. They're
Speaker 2: going to bother to vote, and it's important to note that.
Speaker 2: But we still don't want to lose a pr battle
Speaker 2: people who are supportive of Israel and see it as
Speaker 2: a strong net positive for the play it. So do
Speaker 2: you remain somewhat concerned about some of the vibes online,
Speaker 2: particularly with regards to younger people, because it is I
Speaker 2: still don't want to see younger people voting or not
Speaker 2: turn on Israel and start some supporting Jihati's which is
Speaker 2: basically what we're seeing.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, I think you're right, Alex, and it's really important.
Speaker 11: I think it's clear we've seen over time in our
Speaker 11: polling and other polling that negative views of Israel have increased. Ironically,
Speaker 11: you know, since October seventh, twenty twenty three, and that
Speaker 11: needs to be fought. Look, in part, I think it's
Speaker 11: because Israel has been in the front of the headlines,
Speaker 11: on the front pages of the news, and when that stops,
Speaker 11: I have a sense that things will revert to the mean.
Speaker 11: But really it's the sixty four thousand dollars question. Is
Speaker 11: the resurgence of anti vicious anti Semitism on the right
Speaker 11: and the left a passing fad and that young people
Speaker 11: will disabuse themselves of. You know, is it youthful stupidity
Speaker 11: as they get older, or is it something that both
Speaker 11: parties are really going to have to grapple with because
Speaker 11: these voters are going to cling on to it as
Speaker 11: they age. And one thing I would say, Alex is
Speaker 11: that in the Democratic Party, these people are getting elected
Speaker 11: to Congress. You know, they're likely to be elected to Congress.
Speaker 11: They have been elected to Congress in the form of
Speaker 11: these squad leaders, while in the Republican Party we're seeing
Speaker 11: them voted out of Congress in the form of Thomas
Speaker 11: Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green. And we've seen a lot
Speaker 11: of pushback from Republican elected officials, whereas in the Democratic
Speaker 11: Party we've not seen Democratic leaders say much about this
Speaker 11: troubling phenomenon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so this is where I ask the important
Speaker 3: question I.
Speaker 2: Think here is is there anything that is what can
Speaker 2: be doing to help itself in terms of PR And
Speaker 2: I do feel like they're not good at PR. The
Speaker 2: This has been I think pretty well discussed over the
Speaker 2: past year, but there's you know, this discussion that Israel's
Speaker 2: committee a genocide is so widespread and of course it's false,
Speaker 2: and yet it's just out there and it's very hard
Speaker 2: to address it. And when Israel does do PR, then
Speaker 2: a huge machine gets cranked up to criticize Israel for
Speaker 2: trying to defend itself. That's something we've been witnessing online
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. What do you think Israel could
Speaker 2: do to make the case that it really is a
Speaker 2: beacon of freedom and technology and intelligence and strength in
Speaker 2: a pretty chaotic region.
Speaker 11: You know, this might be simplistic, Alex, but I don't
Speaker 11: think there's a substitute for victory and survival. And I
Speaker 11: think that has to be Israel's focus right now, far
Speaker 11: more than the communications piece, and then the rest will
Speaker 11: speak for itself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I hope you're right about that.
Speaker 2: I hope that's how it works out over time.
Speaker 3: All right. So, another thing you've been.
Speaker 2: Reporting on lately, which is near and dear to my
Speaker 2: heart at Brightbart is you've been covering a lot of
Speaker 2: new devil.
Speaker 3: Roy Singham he is.
Speaker 2: You guys describe him as a notorious Chinese based American
Speaker 2: mogul running a shadowy influenced campaign to undermine us AI
Speaker 2: efforts and give Communists China and edge. He's married to
Speaker 2: a woman who's a founder of Code Pink. He lives
Speaker 2: in Shanghai, and he's very overtly anti American any of
Speaker 2: his speeches, and I think you're correct to highlight this
Speaker 2: guy is one of the true threats to the republic
Speaker 2: at the moment. Give people a little background on nevill
Speaker 2: Roy Singham.
Speaker 5: Sure.
Speaker 11: Nevill Roy Singham is an American who sold his technology
Speaker 11: company some years back for hundreds of millions of dollars
Speaker 11: and with that money, relocated to Shanghai, where he shares
Speaker 11: offices with a group respond a CCP linked group Communist
Speaker 11: Party Front group responsible for doing the party's messaging, and
Speaker 11: The New York Times has done excellent reporting tracing a
Speaker 11: web of groups that are funded by Singham that all
Speaker 11: do the communist part messaging, and that are all tied
Speaker 11: to the far left fringe in America. And so I think,
Speaker 11: just as you see the islam the Islamists tied to
Speaker 11: the far left of the Democratic Party, so too is
Speaker 11: the CCP. And one avenue of their influence, funded by Singham,
Speaker 11: is a campaign that is highlighting, exacerbating and trying to
Speaker 11: stoke American concern about artificial intelligence in order to give
Speaker 11: the Chinese a leg up in this technology race. And
Speaker 11: so they are funding campaigns, Uh, they are putting people
Speaker 11: on the ground to wage these campaigns against data centers
Speaker 11: across the country. And I think it's important to note
Speaker 11: this isn't to say there isn't genuine opposition to American
Speaker 11: to AI among Americans, but the Chinese, through Neville Roy Singham,
Speaker 11: are seizing on that opposition and trying to expand it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good points. And I'm curious what's to be
Speaker 2: done about this. I know Senator Cotton has called for
Speaker 2: an investigation, but investigationtimes are enough. We got to move
Speaker 2: fast here. This is a fast moving situation. This is
Speaker 2: a very fluid situation. What can be done to counter
Speaker 2: this guy?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think really, this is a fair Foreign Agents
Speaker 11: Registration Act issue, and I don't think we fully understand
Speaker 11: the web of his influence. Just one example is that
Speaker 11: his wife, who's the co founder of Coping, Jody Evans,
Speaker 11: that organization has transformed from an anti Chinese organization to
Speaker 11: a pro Chinese organization. So educating the public about what's
Speaker 11: happening is the best thing we can do, and.
Speaker 2: That's what you do with the Washington Freebeacon. Elian and
Speaker 2: Johnson's the editor in chief. Whenever I read a Freebeacon article,
Speaker 2: I know it's accurate. It's the highest compliment I can
Speaker 2: offer as an editor myself. Thanks Eliana, We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Is on with me him from the Washington Examiner as
Speaker 2: well as Fox News Byron.
Speaker 3: I want to touch on a couple of.
Speaker 2: Your recent columns and thank you for being here with me.
Speaker 3: Your latest one, a renewed war means renewed GOP midterm worries.
Speaker 2: This ends up a classic dilemma that we got even
Speaker 2: those of us who have kind of given up on
Speaker 2: the latest MoU and would like to see Trump just
Speaker 2: vanquish the Iranian regime as best he can, and that
Speaker 2: does provide a big headache. Politically, where do you think
Speaker 2: the public.
Speaker 3: Is at on this war?
Speaker 2: And you see a path for Trump to do some
Speaker 2: lasting good in the Middle East and not make himself
Speaker 2: too vulnerable to Democrat sweep in the midterms.
Speaker 12: Well, first of all, on the substance of the matter,
Speaker 12: Trump set out to ensure that Iran does not get
Speaker 12: on nuclear weapon. Now, he can't do that forever, but
Speaker 12: he can do it for a pretty long time, and
Speaker 12: he's done that. As a matter of fact, I think
Speaker 12: Hugh Hewitt published a column today saying it's going to
Speaker 12: be years and years for Iran could reconstitute nuclear program.
Speaker 12: So on the substance of the thing, the goal of
Speaker 12: the war has been accomplished. Now, as far as public
Speaker 12: opinion is concerned, most public opinion polls show, depending on
Speaker 12: how you answer ask the question, show that disapproval being
Speaker 12: about twice approval. In other words, it's about two to
Speaker 12: one sixty plus percent disapproval to thirty plus approval. And now,
Speaker 12: as far as the midterms are concerned, what is worriesome
Speaker 12: to Republicans is not that a lot of Republican voters
Speaker 12: are deeply concerned about the war. From what I can tell,
Speaker 12: they're actually not all that concerned about the war, but
Speaker 12: they're very concerned about the cost of living. So to
Speaker 12: the degree that they see the war as increasing the
Speaker 12: price of gas, which it has for a while, and
Speaker 12: it has been going down, that's going back up. They
Speaker 12: don't like that. And the most worrisome thing to a
Speaker 12: number of Republican strategists right now is that they see
Speaker 12: independent voters kind of thinking and acting like Democrats on
Speaker 12: the war issue, meaning they oppose it. So they're worried
Speaker 12: about that. They're not really worried about their Republicans voters
Speaker 12: turning on Trump in the war or anything like that.
Speaker 12: They're worried almost one hundred percent about cost of living issues,
Speaker 12: but they are worried about independent sort of joining with
Speaker 12: Democrats and opposing the war.
Speaker 2: So I want to talk about another element of the
Speaker 2: war which is important here, and I fundamentally agree with
Speaker 2: you that he's done so much damage to Iranian's nuclear
Speaker 2: program and their ability to have ballistic missiles and to
Speaker 2: constitute a robust armed forces that is a conqueror in
Speaker 2: the region. That feels like that's been set back a
Speaker 2: decade plus, maybe two decades, And I think that's a
Speaker 2: w right there, but this strait continues to provide problems
Speaker 2: because if there isn't free commerce through the strait, then
Speaker 2: I think Trump would see that as a setback, and
Speaker 2: I think the media would frame it pretty successfully as
Speaker 2: a set back. And this does speak your cost of
Speaker 2: living issues. So what is the path forward to keep
Speaker 2: the Straight going and smoothed over in the run of
Speaker 2: this selection.
Speaker 12: Well, it would be seen as a setback because it
Speaker 12: would be a setback. It would substantively that would be
Speaker 12: a really bad thing. And this is one of those
Speaker 12: things that was created by the beginning of the war.
Speaker 12: And so while I said that Trump has accomplished his
Speaker 12: number one goal in the war, which is about the
Speaker 12: nuclear program, what happened was is that Around's retaliation by
Speaker 12: closing the Straight, created this new thing that became the
Speaker 12: most important important issue in the war. So that's kind
Speaker 12: of what's going on now. I think the only solution.
Speaker 12: First of all, you really can't let Iran establish some
Speaker 12: new precedent whereby a country takes international waters and turns
Speaker 12: it into a sort of toll road. International navigation has
Speaker 12: to be able to to go on freely, and so
Speaker 12: that means that the United States probably has to militarily
Speaker 12: assure the safety of shipping in the in the Strait
Speaker 12: until the other nations, and this is other nations are
Speaker 12: working on this uh finished workarounds to get oil out
Speaker 12: of there without having the so making sure that the
Speaker 12: Strait is just not this choke point that it is
Speaker 12: right now. So the US is in a position for
Speaker 12: the indefinite future of having to do something militarily to
Speaker 12: ensure freedom of navigation in the Strait, or the war
Speaker 12: has ended with a really really bad negative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and that'll be what we're all watching.
Speaker 4: Barron.
Speaker 2: I went switch years here because you have another important
Speaker 2: calm that asks, I think a important question what DSA wants.
Speaker 2: What the Democrats Socialists of America want. I've been playing
Speaker 2: with this concept a little bit because they simultaneously want
Speaker 2: socialism and open borders, which are impossible to both. I
Speaker 2: think it's impossible to have either, but it's definitely impossible
Speaker 2: to both. They seem to be focused larger than Israel,
Speaker 2: even though again we're talking about cost of living issues
Speaker 2: and we're talking about trying to have the workers be
Speaker 2: able to be adequately represented within their companies and make
Speaker 2: enough money but then also somehow we can't like Israel.
Speaker 2: It's a very odd amalgam of values.
Speaker 3: So what is it that they want?
Speaker 12: Well, fortunately they told us in this new DSA platform
Speaker 12: that was released recently. And you know, in terms of
Speaker 12: international relations, you know, you would think that if a
Speaker 12: political party was doing its platform, you would have something
Speaker 12: to say about China, about Russia, Sure, what about Iran?
Speaker 12: It has not at the only country it talks about
Speaker 12: is a country that doesn't exist, which is Palestine. Deeply
Speaker 12: concerned about Palestine. But you know, I don't think that's
Speaker 12: the real lead of the platform, which is that it's
Speaker 12: basically the platform itself is indistinguishable from communism. I mean,
Speaker 12: basically everything is taken over by the government and it's
Speaker 12: planning a picture of this wonderful new world in which
Speaker 12: you control your own labor. I'll read it a little bit.
Speaker 12: He says, you have no debt, you don't need health insurance,
Speaker 12: you don't pay a mortgage or have a landlord, because
Speaker 12: comfortable housing is a human right. Your retirement is publicly funded. Food, education, energy, medicine,
Speaker 12: and transportation are not for profit businesses. They are common
Speaker 12: goods and utilities. So you have this wonderful new world
Speaker 12: and a class of society that they claim to be
Speaker 12: able to create basically by tax the rich. And this
Speaker 12: is what brings in the famous Margaret Thatcher quote, which
Speaker 12: is socialism fails because they always run out of other
Speaker 12: people's money to spend. And apparently their platform is they
Speaker 12: can confiscate enough wealth from the wealthiest people to give
Speaker 12: everybody else everything.
Speaker 2: And you also know rightly in the column that they
Speaker 2: want to destroy the government of the US as it
Speaker 2: was created in the Constitution. They're openly talking about destroying
Speaker 2: the declargy of independence. Vital reporting from Barbaran New York
Speaker 2: is always catch them at the Washington Examiner and I'm Fox.
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Speaker 2: All Right Back in business. I'm a Hugh Huge show
Speaker 2: with me, Alex Marlow. James Lilex is on He's at
Speaker 2: Lilex l I l e k s on X the
Speaker 2: Everything app. He's at James Lyilex dot substack dot com.
Speaker 2: He goes to lilex dot com. I noticed that as well, James.
Speaker 2: I'm been looking forward to this. It was great to
Speaker 2: have you on last time I was in for Hugh.
Speaker 2: That was really fun segment, and I got a couple
Speaker 2: of things I think are right up your ally here.
Speaker 2: The first thing is, I went on a pretty good
Speaker 2: jag yesterday defending the status quo when it comes to
Speaker 2: changing the clock. I'm told you're on the other end
Speaker 2: of this debate. Tell me make the case for daylight
Speaker 2: savings time.
Speaker 10: Well, first of all.
Speaker 15: I live in Minnesota, where in just a few months
Speaker 15: from now, the sunates is going to come down hard
Speaker 15: like an anvil, and it's going to be dark at
Speaker 15: five o'clock.
Speaker 10: And that's fitting for that time of year, I suppose,
Speaker 10: and it.
Speaker 15: Reminds us what life is like up here. But for now,
Speaker 15: we have long, attenuated, beautiful summers in which the children
Speaker 15: can gamble on the Elysian fields, and see the.
Speaker 10: Fire it flies at nine o'clock at night.
Speaker 15: And the idea that summer should end at eight, a
Speaker 15: summer evening should close down at eight, and that hot
Speaker 15: coin should be dropped beneath the trees too early.
Speaker 10: No long summers, long summer hours. Now, those of you
Speaker 10: who live in California doesn't matter. But those of us
Speaker 10: who live in places with a temperamental climate, we love it.
Speaker 10: And the idea that somehow well think about the kids.
Speaker 10: I mean, there are two competing bills here.
Speaker 15: One of them is the Sunshine Protection Act, which I'm
Speaker 15: all in favor of protecting sunshine, and.
Speaker 10: The other is the Sunshine for Our Kids Act.
Speaker 15: And anything that has for our kids in the title
Speaker 15: is something that I naturally have to oppose. And it
Speaker 15: would say that, you know, well, it's better because the
Speaker 15: kids can get up in the morning and get on
Speaker 15: the bus.
Speaker 10: Listen, getting up early in the morning.
Speaker 15: And getting on the bus at dark is what life
Speaker 15: is all about. And the sooner they learn it, the better.
Speaker 15: So that basically is what I said.
Speaker 10: It's a good lesson for.
Speaker 15: The children and those of us who for summer is
Speaker 15: a fleetingly short and vanishing quality. Love. I did a
Speaker 15: piece on this for National Review. On my National Review
Speaker 15: call them last week, I managed to crank up a
Speaker 15: thousand words on the fact and paint those of you
Speaker 15: like you standard freaks as the enemy of all that's good,
Speaker 15: true and decent in the society.
Speaker 10: But otherwise I love.
Speaker 2: You, okay, So let me see where we agree and
Speaker 2: where I need some more convincing. So I don't want
Speaker 2: to take people's sunshine during the summer. It's not my
Speaker 2: personal position. So I do like the daylight savings time
Speaker 2: during the summer. I do think that is great. And
Speaker 2: I certainly echo your sentiment that anything with for our
Speaker 2: kids in the bill must be quashed, only because I
Speaker 2: don't like the colloquialism kids. I think if you use
Speaker 2: the word children, maybe I would consider it.
Speaker 10: But it's just too I oh no, it could be worse.
Speaker 10: It could be for the kiddos.
Speaker 2: It could be there is another level, is okay, But
Speaker 2: the heroes and the doggos, Yeah, okay. So I've got
Speaker 2: young kids and they started school, So give me the
Speaker 2: justification for why you believe that. Let's say, my four
Speaker 2: year old who starts school for the first time coming
Speaker 2: up here in the fall, Why she should spend her
Speaker 2: first hour of the day in the dark.
Speaker 10: Because there is an existential truth that they have to
Speaker 10: learn at some point.
Speaker 15: The idea that we rearrange everything so that the kids,
Speaker 15: you know, are shivering in the dark. If you grow
Speaker 15: up in North Dakota is I did you know a
Speaker 15: large proportion of your life consists of shivering in the dark,
Speaker 15: and it's better that they get a handle on it now. Now,
Speaker 15: does that mean that you can't go down there with
Speaker 15: the flashlight and the rest of it. That's perfectly fine,
Speaker 15: bring a torch, as they say in Britain. But the
Speaker 15: fact that everybody else has to change the thing so
Speaker 15: the children can catch a few glimmering photons coming over
Speaker 15: the horizon before the bus takes them off to put
Speaker 15: them indoors for.
Speaker 10: The rest of the day. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Not
Speaker 10: the most convincing argument to me.
Speaker 2: You know what, It definitely is time for my four
Speaker 2: year old baby girl, all thirty eight pounds of her,
Speaker 2: is time for her to start growing up. And I
Speaker 2: think that this is the exact moment to start doing it. Okay,
Speaker 2: so they very strong case. So you mentioned Minnesota. How's
Speaker 2: it going in Minnesota, because I feel like half the
Speaker 2: time I'm reading a headline in Minnesota, something's actually horrible happening,
Speaker 2: or it's someone I really like has left California and
Speaker 2: is now living in Minnesota on some massive acreage and
Speaker 2: it sounds really nice.
Speaker 10: So what is it?
Speaker 7: It is?
Speaker 15: Yeah, find your massive acreage outside of how it's an
Speaker 15: absolutely beautiful states.
Speaker 10: It's a gorgeous place, and I love it. Here in
Speaker 10: the cities where I live.
Speaker 15: We've had three mass shootings over the course of the
Speaker 15: last seventy two hours, So there's that. But on the
Speaker 15: other hand, I mean, I was at a wedding a
Speaker 15: week ago in this magnificent cathedral in downtown Saint Paul,
Speaker 15: and then went to this other magnificent former post office
Speaker 15: in downtown Saint Paul. People to the streets now fear
Speaker 15: of the rest of it, to the architecture of the wedding.
Speaker 15: But whether gorgeous, it's still a great place to live.
Speaker 15: What it's got its moments of insanity as every other place.
Speaker 10: Does.
Speaker 15: You know, we've got the DSA infecting our politics as
Speaker 15: it's everybody else seems to be happy. And the other
Speaker 15: thing is that we're very close to Canada. So we
Speaker 15: got the fires, so we got this smoke, We got
Speaker 15: this choking, weird smell as if not as if it
Speaker 15: was burning, were artificial Christmas.
Speaker 10: Tree for us or something.
Speaker 15: It was just an odd, horrible petrochemical thing that made
Speaker 15: my dog shriek and made everybody else just slump around.
Speaker 10: But it's gone. The pristine winds have blown.
Speaker 15: It away, and it's another beautiful day here in a
Speaker 15: place that I still am proud to call home.
Speaker 10: But Canada, you know, we got this paraffing going out.
Speaker 10: Heard about this?
Speaker 3: No explain to me.
Speaker 10: I sound like one of those late night commers. What's
Speaker 10: this tariff thing we got here? Yeah? Well, Trump is
Speaker 10: a fifty percent tariff.
Speaker 15: On certain Canadian products, and I was looking to see
Speaker 15: exactly what they were here.
Speaker 10: I think is a good story of where we are.
Speaker 10: According to Al Jazeero's the first story that came up today.
Speaker 15: The tariffs announced on Monday I cover a range of
Speaker 15: items including wine, cement, and hockey sticks.
Speaker 10: Bouchet there you go.
Speaker 15: I mean, if the hockey price sticks doubled here, maybe
Speaker 15: stimulate our domestic hockey stick industry, but what Canada will
Speaker 15: end up paying is higher viewings on because they have
Speaker 15: premiums and tariffs on are alcohol, automobile and dairy products.
Speaker 15: So which nation do you want to be cement, wine
Speaker 15: and hockey sticks or cars, woos and cheese.
Speaker 10: I'm going to take the latter.
Speaker 15: So I don't like tariffs in general, but you know,
Speaker 15: we'll have to live with a hockey stick problem.
Speaker 2: It's also news to me that we're we're importing a
Speaker 2: bunch of Canadian wine.
Speaker 3: That seems very odd.
Speaker 15: That one struck me as well too, because maybe that's
Speaker 15: what we're smelling in the in the in the forest
Speaker 15: is some of their you know, they've they've torched their
Speaker 15: vineyards out of shame. Canadian wine is not really one
Speaker 15: of those things that plays large in the American imagination.
Speaker 15: I've never seen anybody go into a place and take
Speaker 15: a sip and say this isn't Canadian.
Speaker 2: You know, at the local steakhouse, they're always given the
Speaker 2: you know, the NAPA region and France and Italy, but
Speaker 2: I don't recall the special page dedicated to the Canadian wine.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: What's interesting, also, yeah, is that they've got the Canadian whiskey,
Speaker 2: and it feels like there's a whole country of people
Speaker 2: who are drinking NonStop, and the Canadian whiskey is not
Speaker 2: nearly as good as them, and whiskey and we have
Speaker 2: other stuff to do during the day.
Speaker 4: No, it isn't.
Speaker 15: It's very easy to make Canadian whiskey. Just take actual
Speaker 15: American whiskey and add some water to it, and it's light,
Speaker 15: it's it's, it's, it's, it's in substantially.
Speaker 10: It'll doing a pinch, it'll do in a mix.
Speaker 15: But it's been a long time since Canadian whisky played
Speaker 15: any part of the American imagine it completely. Anything Canadian,
Speaker 15: except for Dudley do Right, has played a large amount.
Speaker 15: And I love Canada and I love Canadians, and I
Speaker 15: wish we weren't having this spat. But the old ouion
Speaker 15: of them is a sort of, you know, a version
Speaker 15: of the Upper Midwest kind of people, solitary and proud
Speaker 15: and hard working, and the rest of it seems to
Speaker 15: have evolved into this strange sort of pseudo European quasis
Speaker 15: press progressive.
Speaker 10: Nonsense that we really it's a pity to have it
Speaker 10: so close to us.
Speaker 2: Amazing Sun James violence, can you say thing for four
Speaker 2: more minutes? Well, sure, let's do it and be right
Speaker 2: back in the Huge show with James Lylenx. All right,
Speaker 2: big thank you to Adam and Arlie for taking care
Speaker 2: of me today. Also Dwyane and of course the great
Speaker 2: qu Hewitt for blessing me filling in yet again.
Speaker 3: I really enjoy it. If you like what you're hearing today,
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Speaker 2: I've asked James Lilex to stay with me an extra
Speaker 2: segment and he has obliged. James Liilex dot Substack dot com,
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Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: James, I had to ask you about Taco Bell.
Speaker 2: Have you been eating a lot of Taco Bell up
Speaker 2: there in Minnesota? Did the latest virus outbreak did it
Speaker 2: impact a lot of your nutritional decisions over last week
Speaker 2: or so?
Speaker 15: No?
Speaker 10: And I don't say that as somebody who wants to
Speaker 10: dump on Taco Bell. Perhaps that's the wrong word. I
Speaker 10: love Taco Bell. I absolutely love Taco Bell.
Speaker 15: I love the way they've been able to take three
Speaker 15: or four ingredients and over the course of the twenty
Speaker 15: five years find combinations and fake Spanish words for it,
Speaker 15: and in vences it's delicious. I will go there when
Speaker 15: I'm in the midst of something that keeps me from
Speaker 15: eating normal human food. And when I was moving it
Speaker 15: two or three months ago, I found myself there a
Speaker 15: weekly and what that meant was I would take too
Speaker 15: many sauce packets.
Speaker 10: Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 15: I took five diabolos when I should have only needed three,
Speaker 15: and consequently ended up with a substantial quantity of taco
Speaker 15: bell sauces, which keep forever.
Speaker 10: They're like honey in King Tut's tomb.
Speaker 15: When they open up this apartment in a thousand years,
Speaker 15: they will find that the sauce it's just as.
Speaker 10: Piquent as it ever was. But no, I haven't gotten there.
Speaker 15: I really haven't, and I have been very keen about
Speaker 15: Whenever I get some produce home and you wash it
Speaker 15: as you are instructed to do, you run it under
Speaker 15: the sink and you think, somehow is the pressure from
Speaker 15: this tap sufficient to blow whatever fecal contamination has insinuated itself.
Speaker 10: In the folds of the lettuce. I don't know, but
Speaker 10: if it's wet, it's probably safe.
Speaker 15: And when you think about it, it's very organic to
Speaker 15: have produce that is contaminated with this sort of thing.
Speaker 15: That's about as organic as you get because organisms natural.
Speaker 10: Consider of all these little weed beasties in.
Speaker 15: Our food that are content to lay us low for
Speaker 15: a couple of days with explosive outflows.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so no it hasn't.
Speaker 15: But I'm going to wait for it to die down
Speaker 15: before i actually head back to Run for the Border.
Speaker 10: Maybe isn't a word that they should have put in
Speaker 10: their title?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so. The run the Runs part, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's definitely.
Speaker 3: It's a great point.
Speaker 2: And thank you for mentioning fecal contaminants. We hadn't had
Speaker 2: that shout out on the show. Shout out fecal contaminants.
Speaker 2: I was just looking it up. The crunch wrap Supreme
Speaker 2: is not a real Mexican dish. The Mexican pizza is
Speaker 2: not a real dish. The Dorito's Locos taco, the cheesy
Speaker 2: Gordiita crunch, none of these are actually real things in Mexico,
Speaker 2: which is very so that's cultural appropriation and that's one
Speaker 2: of the things that is we want to condemn that.
Speaker 2: But James, would you've ever bet it was the lettuce
Speaker 2: that was going to be what caused the problem of
Speaker 2: all the menu had into Taco Bell.
Speaker 3: It's the lettuce.
Speaker 10: Oh, yes, absolutely, it's always the lettuce. It's always the lettuce.
Speaker 15: It always comes down to that stuff and gets from
Speaker 15: the fields that's been fertilized with night soil or some
Speaker 15: strange thing where they ran out of enough, you know,
Speaker 15: the chemical stuff organically, so you know, a lot of
Speaker 15: fertilizers come from you know, various fine quarter regions.
Speaker 10: So no, I wasn't surprised at all. It wasn't going
Speaker 10: to be the cheese.
Speaker 15: Possibly could be the meat, probably not going to be
Speaker 15: some perforation in your digestive system from the show.
Speaker 10: Always it's the lettuce. Always.
Speaker 2: You know, this is an educational show and James Lylyx
Speaker 2: is here to make sure everyone learned a little bit today.
Speaker 3: Thanks games appreciate you.
Speaker 2: James Lylex dot substack dot com, Lilex dot com at
Speaker 2: Live on the Everything app. That's today's show. I'm Alex Marlow,
Speaker 2: thanks for listening. Thanks to Hugh Hewitt and I'll talk
Speaker 2: to you all soon.