WEBVTT - The path forward in Iran and to the Midterms 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.760 Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College. All thanks 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.440 Hillsdale at Hillsdale dot ed. I encourage you to take 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:08.920 advantage of the many free online courses there, and of 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.280 course I'll listen to the Hillsdale Dialogue all of them 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.320 at Hugh for Hillsdale dot com or. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:16.040 Morning Glory at Evening Grace is a Hugh Huge show. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.759 Alex Marlow in for Hugh. Yet again, very grateful to 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.960 my friend and mentor Hugh for allowing me the opportunity 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.040 to speak to his vast audience. I'm the host of 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.720 the Alex Marlow Show on the Salem Networks and on 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.240 the Salem News Channel in the evenings. Also wherever you 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.720 get your podcast. Editor in chief of Breitbart News as well, 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:34.320 I mean a lot to get you, Davia. Some great 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.880 guests lined up. We got Josh Holmes from the Ruthless Podcast. 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.800 I'm a Ruthless Podcast listener, David Drucker from The Dispatch, 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.080 Eleana Johnson Byron York. Good stuff, a lot of punditree 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.120 coming up, and a lot of stories. We'll talk a 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.520 little politics today. It's an election day, particularly out in Arizona. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.400 People keeping a close eye on those races. We've got 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.320 some movement in the South Carolina race where Lindsey Graham 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.080 Seed opened up and now his sister is declared that 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.120 she will be running for the full spectrum. She wants 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.800 the six years, she wants the election, not just the appointment. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:05.839 And then we'll. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.280 Also talking about how the Democrats are trying to reduce 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.679 our military budget even in the middle of wartime. Why 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.160 are they doing this Because anything Republicans want, they have 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:15.800 to stop it. That is the name of the game. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:17.399 And how do we get around that, What do we 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.080 do and who does that actually serve in this midterm 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.920 election year. But we'll start with something that is pretty 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.360 unbelievable that's happening that which is that the Smithsonian has 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:30.480 been outed as a very woke entity. And this is 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.600 going on right now as we're having this conversation, as 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.800 we're recording live, there's a hearing going on over the 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:40.160 National Museum of American History where all sorts of findings 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.440 have indicated that there's all sorts of trans stuff, sexualizing 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.680 of the children, and all sorts of wokeism that's taking 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:53.600 place within our arguably our most important constellation of museums 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.840 here is a just unbelievable moment, and I'll try to 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:58.760 cut in and give some commentary, but I want to 0:01:58.760 --> 0:01:59.320 play this one. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.480 This is Brandon Gil the congressman. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:05.280 Who is one of the most capable at politely but 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.919 devastatingly questioning people on Capitol Hill. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:10.600 Okay, so this one's freezing up. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.120 So this is in the clip when we get to 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.519 it is rand and Gil who is talking to Smithsonian 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.760 Director Heartig with a pretty devastating line of questioning. But 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.960 before we do that, we can play why don't we 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:23.600 play cut six? 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:26.880 Is Mickey Mouse racist? 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:28.840 Mickey Mouse is not racist. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:29.800 It's not racist. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:35.240 According to the Smithsonian Institution, one of your exhibits reference 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.000 to Mickey Mouse is representing quote vestiges of long standing 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.880 traditions of blackface minstrelsy. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:43.840 Would you describe that as racist? 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:51.280 No, the historical trajectory of the origins of Mickey Mouse tied. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.760 Directly Mickey Mouse's is rooted in racism. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:55.280 Is that you're. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.639 Testimony, it's rooted in menstrully minstrelsing. You don't think the 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.000 blackface minstrelsy is racist. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:05.600 And it's certain obvious racial overtones that have been well documented. 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:10.040 Think that's problematic that Mickey Mouse also has those racial overtones. 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.160 It's not for me to determine what's problematic. It's determined 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:14.079 to me what's accurate. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.399 Is that? Right? Right? 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.840 Well, yay, let's say what I think of racism. One 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.040 of the first things I think about is Mickey Mouse. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:22.639 That's number one. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:23.960 Look, this is what they have to do. This is 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:24.680 what the left does that. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.519 Are at this moment in our in our in our heritage. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.560 What's happening is that they go after everything that made 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:36.320 America unique and special. They have to destroy our national myth. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.040 You see this example again and again. And I was 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.160 just playing a clip on my live show today of 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.200 Abdulla Lsiu Memel play it later on he show. But 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.840 he's going through just a laundry list, like chat ept 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.080 spit it out of all the horrible things about this country, 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.000 from slavery to Jim Crow to women not being equal. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:54.960 He don't care about any of these things. He's just 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.640 a self aggrandizer who's trying to get elected. But all 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.800 he wants to do is he's running on a platform 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.680 that America is not only not that great, it's a 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.640 uniquely horrible place. And that's why our own museums are 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:09.119 not promoting stuff that beautifies, glorifies, makes us feel good 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.640 about our country. No, what we're doing is we're putting 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.280 out we're reminding people that actually you may have missed it, 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.400 but Mickey, that guy's really racist. And don't even get 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.920 me started about Donald. All right, let's play we got 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.560 cut one go and here's Congressman Gil with a director heart. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:23.880 Take here. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.800 We got history, even if it's not properly carried out. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.600 Would you say that the goal of history is to 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:29.240 be objective? 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.000 Thank you, sir for the question. You know, I think 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.560 that there are many goals of history, and certainly, as 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.200 you collect, as we do examine evidence. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.599 Creates objectivity one of the goals of history. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.760 We strive to be objective and nonpartisan and not based 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:53.360 on any idea. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.320 It's one of the goals. Doesn't that seem a little 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.960 bit concerning? It certainly does to me, because as part 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:04.600 of this White Supremacy Document that your organization has promoted 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:11.000 objectivity as a core and defining aspect of white supremacy culture. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.400 Do you think that it's the goal of the Smithsonian 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.760 Institution to promote white supremacy culture? 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.520 Sir? Do you mind sharing with me, which document. 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:25.279 White supremacy culture right here. This is part of the 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.640 mass action toolkit that your organization has promoted for several 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:29.160 years now. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.520 And so this is part of from this White House 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:32.240 report that. 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:36.839 Recently came out that they release called Saving America's Story, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:38.920 great title, how they came up with that, but they 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:44.839 gave specific examples of alleged ideological content within our museums, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.479 and one of them was staff resources in reading groups 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:52.599 sponsored by the Smithsonian that addressed white supremacy culture. This 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.200 goes through a list that they have including immigration related 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:01.080 programming from teachers, resources to promote DAKA, which is Amnesty 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:05.159 for Legal aliens, featuring stories of illegal alien individuals, and 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.919 partnering with illegal alien activist groups. They exhibit material that's 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.440 described as advancing trans and gender fluid themes. I bought 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.640 some of that momentarily. And they have partnerships with groups 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.560 like the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is not only 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:22.000 a group that targets organizations like Breitbart and Turning Point 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:23.800 and Prager You and all sorts of things that are 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:27.599 very normative for conservatives. But we now learned recently that 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.680 they astroturfed the Unite the Right rally, which started the 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.680 whole Charlottesville hoax where Trump That led to Trump saying 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.200 they're fine Nazis, which of course he never said. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.080 There's all a big hoaks and a lot of that. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:40.719 We learned that a lot of the people who were 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.320 there were funded by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.520 is partnering with our own Smithsonium. And this is a 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.560 really good thing to point out because this is a 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.120 huge opportunity with President Trump as the president, because you know, 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.560 any Democrat or any lazier Republican would never bother addressing 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:56.320 any of this stuff. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.000 So it's good to see it. Let's hear more from 0:06:58.080 --> 0:06:59.040 Congressman gil. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:05.360 My promoting a wife man. This this a difficult question, No. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.919 Srue, I'm just thinking about the mass action toolkit. We 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:12.240 didn't develop it. But back to your question, no, we're 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.800 not promoting any ideology. 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:17.880 Does it concern you that your goal is objectivity? One 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.800 of your goals is objectivity, and your mass action toolkit 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:25.920 references objectivity is a defining characteristic of white supremacy culture. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.880 It's not our toolkit, it is your toolkit. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.760 You You've been promoting it for quite some time. 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.040 So just to recap what we've seen thus far, is 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.880 that Congressman Gil has said that it is objectivity important. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.240 She says, we strive to be objective. 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.640 And then he says, your document says objectivity is white supremacy. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.400 She spends a lot of time thinking about that one, 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.840 and then he cuts in and says, that is a 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.160 difficult question. You're promoting white supremacy at the Smithsonian. And 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.920 she looks like it wasn't my stuff. Well, it really is. 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:02.080 This person, Anthahartig, is to this stuff. Literally, she is 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:03.440 the Smithsonian director. 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:08.280 That's what she does. She directs the Smithsonian. So it's 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.440 pretty devastating. Let's continue. It's painful, but we got to 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:11.480 keep going. Let's go, guys. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.040 It's sir, but you've been promoting it. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.960 It is used as a reference, I believe, probably in 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.120 twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.800 Yes, under your leadership, it has been used as a reference. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.120 Is Mickey Mouse racist? 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:26.920 Mickey Mouse is not racist? 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.040 All right, red Mickey Mouse. 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.240 Part So we will cut ahead, and when we come 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.760 back from the break, we're going to talk to Josh 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.120 Holmes from Ruthless. But then in the following seven we'll 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:38.559 pick up from there, guys, you can skip head. So 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.080 we have to do the Mickey Mouse part again. But 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.160 we're just getting going here. A timber chat bringing up 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.360 pictures of bondage sexually transgender stuff. A six year old 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.400 girl asked why she doesn't have meal Genitulia. Also in 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.600 the clip of Congressman Gil, the Smithsonian Institution is selling 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.440 Latina power merchandise. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:08:59.640 Woke is not dead, ladies and gentlemen. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.720 This is major thing here. It's been a theme on 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.480 The Marlow Show for a while, and I'm making a 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.840 theme on the Huge Show for today. Woke at best 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:10.680 is latent. It's waiting to re emerge. Maybe it's even 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.640 incubating and getting stronger behind the scenes. And we need 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.640 to make examples of these people. We need to call 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.600 them out over and over again. We need to be 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.520 relentless about this, tireless about it. This is not American values. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.400 This is contraar to American values. And we're fighting back 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:25.480 here in the Hugh Hwit Show. 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.640 I'm Alex Marlow. We'll be right back. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.640 Ring back to work on the Hugh Huge Show. Alex 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.720 Marlow in for Hugh. Josh Holmes is on with me now. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:39.320 He's the co. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.599 Host of the Ruthless Variety Program, Josh, really nice to 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.440 make your acquaintance. I'm a Ruthless Variety Show enjoyer. And 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.640 I got off my show, my live show earlier today, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.599 and I played a clip of Melot kiro socialist Democrat, 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.840 talking about how we don't have enough immigrants in the 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.560 United States Congress. And then I turned on the Ruthless 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.679 Variety Program my long drive down from Glenn Delle to 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.880 Orange County, and you guys played the same clip. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.120 But this is so important. I think this is really 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:06.280 one of the most. 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.800 Stories of the moment. Here's some of the quote. There's 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.880 a certain reckoning that we're going to have to have 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:15.000 with the global world order, a reckoning. And then she concludes, 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.720 this means getting more people who have heritage in the 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.079 global South into office, not with American heritage, heritage in 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:22.280 the global South. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.640 This is a big deal. It's a huge deal. 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.120 Well, it unites a couple of things that the left 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.360 is doing simultaneously. The first is, of course the illegal 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.600 immigration and to what ends that meet, and it's their 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:37.760 perversion of. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.120 Our census and our awarding. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.360 Of federal dollars and representation, and of course the more 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:47.280 illegal immigrants that you can have somewhere, the more representation 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.240 that you get on a far left liberal democratic dogma. 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.880 But this whole issue of the global South is I 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.240 think much more pervasive than any of us would like 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.520 to admit, and that what's driving a lot of these 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:07.160 DSA socialists is this anti Western civilization mentality that is 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:11.600 at its core just frankly anti American, and it has 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.840 become the dominant force within the Democrat Party today. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.480 And it's a very, very scary proposition. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.800 You're right about this, And I started the show and 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.240 I'm doing a monologue about the Smithsonian and all of 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.840 the anti Americanism in our own Smithsonian. 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.800 And then you've got prominent Democrats. 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.199 Who are either elected or the verge of being elected, 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.640 saying we need to not just replace American workers, but 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.440 we need to actually replace the American representatives in our Congress. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.040 You guys had a great point on your show about 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.000 supposed to be the United States of America. We're supposed 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.960 to have representation from all over our states, and we're like, no, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.280 that's not good enough. We need to actually have people 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:50.240 from other countries. And I feel like I'm taking crazy 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.760 pills here. When I'm saying that this is not exactly 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.400 what the design should be, well, of course, it's not 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:57.680 what the design has ever been. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:58.719 And you know it used to be. 0:11:58.760 --> 0:11:59.760 When I started in politics. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.000 It used to be you had two different ideologies that 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.320 tried to get at the same agreed upon problem. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.240 Right, it was either usually a. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:11.240 Larger government solution to the ills of society or a 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.720 smaller government, market based solution. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.760 The left no longer is that it's destroy America. 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.880 It destroys values, destroy our constitution, and destroy its very 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.280 residents and citizenship. Therein in our ability to control our 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:30.319 own future. If you import enough of people who harbor 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.840 ill will towards Western civilization in the United States of 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.040 America specifically, you can fundamentally. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.679 Uproot what has made this country the greatest country. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:40.880 In the world. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.240 And that is the goal that they are professing. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.360 So you and I both mutually have fun on our 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.840 respective programs making fun of the Democrats socials of America. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:50.520 That's a good thing. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.199 But who wins the Democrats civil war? Is it the 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.440 establishment or is it the socialist I think I know 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.160 the answer. You tell me who wins, and then tell 0:12:58.200 --> 0:12:59.600 me is that a good thing. 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:05.000 Or well, look, I'm going to put my chips in 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.000 the DSA at this point, in large part because it's 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:12.679 been thirty long years since there has ever been a 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:17.240 moderating force in Democrat politics. Either the furthest reaches of 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:23.600 the far left win or they negotiate a surrender with 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:27.640 a ruling establishment Democratic class in which their agenda is 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.480 put forward, as in the case of Joe Biden. Right, 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:34.480 So it's winning by losing in that case, I think 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.560 if you look at the trajectory of the Democratic Party 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.120 over the last three decades, this has always been heading 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.640 off the left hand side of the map. Increasingly they 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.400 have little or no respect or alignment with the center 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.440 of this country. They've made that abundantly clear, and it's 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:56.079 ruled by this coastal elite university professor types who. 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:58.439 Don't like America. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.400 And that I mean, I wouldn't love to run a 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.200 domestic election like that, which is again, why are they 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.480 trying to change all the inputs right exactly? 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.840 And so this is the point that I'm raising, which 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.200 is that it's fun for now to watch them actually 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.360 have a civil war, but if an anti American faction 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.880 of their party wins out, it does raise the stakes. 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.200 It seems like they're easier to defeat. Yeah, but if we. 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.200 Don't defeat them, then America really is going to be 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.320 fundamentally transformed. 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.200 Well, there's no question in this why you got to 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.120 stay vigilant about it. I mean, just consider that. 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.240 AOC She's a perfect case study in this. 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.080 I mean, just a few years ago, everybody on the 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.840 conservative side just laughed out loud every time she opened 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.160 her up one because it's funny too, because she has 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:40.480 this sort of a historical, complete lunacy view of the 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.240 United States and what it is that we do here. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.640 She is now alex in the center of that party. 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:50.320 She's being credited with brokering the DSA and the establishment. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.320 She's the tie that binds. 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.960 This is a person that everybody thought was so crazy 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.200 that they couldn't even believe that she was on television talking. 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:03.080 Now she is I think the odds on favorite to 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:04.640 be the next nominee. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.040 On the Democrats side for President of the United States. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:06.320 Yeah. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.520 I think if she wants it, she's there's a clear 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.320 path for her, very clear path, And I think that 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.040 definitely let's put a pin in that. Let's talk again 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.400 about that down the road. But I do think her 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.440 real skill set is her willingness to be able to 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.360 shift accents at a moment's notice to try to. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:21.560 Court different groups of people. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:21.880 See. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.600 But there's something that it's so brazen. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.120 It's I can't tell if she's trolling us, if she's 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.120 just tempting all of us to waste our entire shows 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.880 talking about it. But it's just NonStop, just she can 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.440 speak a different language to a different audience. We've never 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.600 seen anything like in American politics. It is truly a skill. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.080 So here's the point, though, is that they're offering a 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.880 vision for America. The left that America is a uniquely 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.880 horrible place has always been horrible. We were both at 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.280 the Defense Innovation Summit in Pennsylvania last. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.400 Week, and it's the opposite. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.520 The right is offering we're innovating, we're building, We're going 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.280 to conquer things we never thought possible. But is that 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.240 message getting out? Are we getting the message out? We 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:04.520 have this very fun, this fun vision for our country 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.200 that we are best days are in front of us. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:07.320 Is that coming through to people? 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:09.720 No, I don't think it's coming through at all. 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.320 I think we've got to double down and make sure 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.800 that it is because I left that sum at Alex 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:18.160 probably like you, totally re energize far out the prospects 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:23.480 of getting America back to where we had been for decades, 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.800 which is the leader of the free world. We're doing 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.800 things no one else can do. We're thinking of innovation 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.600 in a way that no one else can possibly compete with. 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.280 We're bringing all those ideas into fruition with a manufacturing 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.400 base that can actually produce better than anyone else in 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.840 the world. We're not fighting nineteen fifties battles. We're doing 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:46.600 twenty thirty to twenty two hundred. And that is where 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.080 the Republican Party of the conservative movement need to be 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.480 in order to sell the optimism. We can't be victim 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.120 class culture complaining about what everybody on the left wants 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.880 to do to us. Show people a little of the 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:02.440 vision that you and I experienced at the Defense Forum, 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.840 and I guarantee you people are going to be pretty 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:05.480 excited about it. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:06.320 Okay, we got a minute. 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.119 This is a tough one because this is I think 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.600 speaks to my exact point that's specific here Save America Act. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.719 There's multiple versions of it. The bottom line is conservatives 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.760 one voter ID and proof recistionship to vote. There is 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.800 not a good path forward and this makes people in 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.200 my audience pull their hair out that Republicans can't get 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:23.879 an ID locked in. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.400 Do you see a path for us to complete this? 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.639 I don't at this point, I really don't. 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.920 And it's but you have to start with the fact 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:36.679 that the Democrat Party has told Americans, who approve of 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.480 all this by an eighty twenty margin, that they don't 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.960 think it's appropriate to show a photo ID to vote. 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.960 You got to do it to buy Barry, you got 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:45.879 to do it to buy cigarettes. I mean, we just 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:47.840 read the Olive gard and you can't even get a 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.160 full pasta without a photo idea in your pasta card. 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.600 I mean, it is just a no brainer. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.720 But the problem is that we haven't had this national discussion. 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.159 You saw Mark Warner on the Sunday Shows answer this 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.520 question for the first This is a question that every 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.040 Democrat needs to be facing every single day if we're 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:04.640 doing our job. 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.800 Josh Awns, Ruthlith Variety program, wherever you get your podcast, 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.040 Really nice to have you on the Huite Show. 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:17.239 I'll be right back, all right. 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.960 Alex marlow In for Hugh. David Drucker is on with me. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.720 He's at David M. Drucker on X the Everything app. 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.880 He's a senior writer for The Dispatch. David, you did 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.520 some reporting from Michigan where you followed along what you 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:34.000 frame up as a pragmatist candidate and a populist candidate, 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.080 and this is a fascinating. 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:39.159 Thing that we're all tracking. 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:43.440 Abduel said and his rising campaign, which seems to stand 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.399 for pretty much anything that he thinks is going to 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.400 get him attention versus Haley Stevens, who seems much more 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.479 sort of normal, at least relative to Democrats. What are 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.159 the key touchstones in this race that you're seeing and 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.280 you feel like this could be some sort of a 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.239 proxy for what the Democrats are going through at a 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:00.400 grander scale here. 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:03.879 Well, I mean, I definitely think Alex that it's a 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.680 key race in the sort of intermural squabble that Democrats 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.720 are having right now that are sort of to me 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:13.120 reminiscent of what Republicans went through in the Tea Party era, 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:17.359 with Tea Party Republicans as they define themselves, you know, 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:21.800