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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, welcome to the show. Today.

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Speaker 4: I have a special guest, Tyler Miller. He has an

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Speaker 4: amazing story of how God transformed his life. This is

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Speaker 4: a great story for anyone who has a prodigal in

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Speaker 4: their family. This will give you a lot of hope.

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Speaker 4: It's a very fascinating story. But first award from our sponsor.

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Speaker 4: Please welcome Tyler Miller.

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Speaker 1: Yes, hello, thank you so much for having me. Becket,

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Speaker 1: I'm so honored to be here.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's good to have you on. This was all

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Speaker 4: last minute. I'm so glad you could make it work.

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Speaker 4: So let's start with your story.

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Speaker 1: You where were you, Where were you raised?

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Speaker 3: What part of the country were you raised in?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So, actually on both coasts. So I was born

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. That's where my dad is from and where

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Speaker 1: he grew up. And then we moved to California when

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Speaker 1: I was seven. And so I actually grew up in

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Speaker 1: way northern California, right under the border of Oregon, in

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Speaker 1: a town called Etna, California.

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Speaker 4: That's very remote and random. And you but you say

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Speaker 4: you grew up in a in a Christian home. Your

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Speaker 4: parents were Christians?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, they were in my my grandparents on my

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Speaker 1: dad's side, and yeah, we my dad was actually even

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Speaker 1: in the Christian camping ministry, and so we grew up

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Speaker 1: and while we did, he was sort of doing that.

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Speaker 1: That's what he did in California. So we were definitely

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Speaker 1: in church our whole life. And yeah, surrounded by God's

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Speaker 1: people and even ministry, which was awesome.

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Speaker 4: And what was it you say that you know your

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Speaker 4: your parents, you had kind of a tricky relationship with

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Speaker 4: your parents, Like what was that like?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so growing up was like I have awesome parents.

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Speaker 1: I just want to start there. They are so great,

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Speaker 1: they've been they're great friends of mine now, like we've

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Speaker 1: had so much healing in our lives. But growing up,

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Speaker 1: my dad and mom were very much at odds with

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Speaker 1: each other. My dad was under a really intense spirit

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Speaker 1: of anger that was kind of like a generational thing.

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Speaker 1: In his family. And then my mom, she has a

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Speaker 1: crazy testimony of her own, but she was under a

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Speaker 1: lot of I would just say, fear of different kinds,

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Speaker 1: and so that mixture was just not really working in

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Speaker 1: was a lot of like trying to appease my dad

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Speaker 1: or you know, not I didn't want him to be

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Speaker 1: angry or different things like that. And so as a kid,

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Speaker 1: it led to eventually them getting divorced when I was thirteen,

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Speaker 1: me because I didn't have language to like what to

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Speaker 1: also at you know, thirteen years old, which is a

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's interesting, you know, I talk about this

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Speaker 4: in a new book I'm writing about divorce, and I

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Speaker 4: remember as a kid, even as like you know, a

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Speaker 4: till the very end, and they died six months apart.

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Speaker 3: But oh my gosh, and they're with Jesus now.

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Speaker 4: But but that it's a weird. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 4: can't imagine like the what that feels like when your

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Speaker 4: you felt like you were walking on eggshells like around

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Speaker 4: your parents or your dad, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I just at an early age,

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Speaker 1: of praise God. But at that time, like he didn't

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Speaker 1: ended up connecting to my relationship with God long term

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Speaker 1: as an adult, as it often does. Right, we see

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Speaker 1: so I started believing from a young age that I

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Speaker 4: when you're seven years old in northern California, to talk

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Speaker 1: It's what everybody did. So so yeah, I remember sitting

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Speaker 1: I wanted to accept Christ. And I know that that's

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Speaker 1: when I got saved because I had I lived differently

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Speaker 1: just from that age like knew that God was real.

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Speaker 4: Well and then what age did sex attractions start seeping

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as I've thought about that as I've gotten older,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't from abuse in my situation. I know that's

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Speaker 1: and you know, attractions are different probably when you're a kid,

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Speaker 4: And how did you handle that in terms of your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I realized too much about what

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Speaker 1: and like puberty and junior high then it started getting like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Like I always knew this was not God's will for me,

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Speaker 1: But I just thought like, well, I guess I just

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Speaker 1: from the inside out. Yeah, and so that's largely what

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Speaker 3: And then you became addicted to pornography.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I kept this lockdown four years. I'm sure they

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Speaker 3: And what was the reaction.

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Speaker 1: I remember I was met with a lot of grace

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Speaker 1: and mercy because I actually think, like I tell people

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Speaker 1: not feeling the same anymore. So I guess that wasn't

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Speaker 1: maybe what I thought it was, or I guess it

439
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Speaker 1: wasn't as big of a deal or whatever. And I

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Speaker 1: should say this too. When that happened to me, the

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Speaker 1: addiction stopped. It like dropped out of my life. And

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Speaker 1: homosexual feelings were still there in terms of just temptation,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't rule me anymore. It was like I

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Speaker 1: had authority over them. Yeah, and so I would be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm feeling this, but I don't care. Jesus

446
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Speaker 1: is number one. And so it was such a shift.

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Speaker 1: But then when I start like not feeling as a

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Speaker 1: m or like you know, excited or whatever. I still

449
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Speaker 1: have free will. Unfortunately, so I start choosing my sin

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Speaker 1: again because it's just like, yeah, I just foolishly chose it.

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Speaker 1: And how the Bible talks about like if you return

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Speaker 1: to your sin, it's like comes upon you seven times worse.

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Speaker 1: I experienced that, and like the intensity of now homosexual attraction, pornography, addiction,

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Speaker 1: and then now there was this horrible spirit of fear

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Speaker 1: and panic that was like upon me of you've lost

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Speaker 1: your salvation. God gave you this gift of freedom and

457
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Speaker 1: you didn't steward it. He's now more against against you

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Speaker 1: than ever. And it was this like terrorizing thing. But

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Speaker 1: even in that, God was so good to me. He

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Speaker 1: gave me like a best friend in the I lived

461
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Speaker 1: in a Christian frat in grad school. It's it's like

462
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Speaker 1: a frat but not gross. It was I like had

463
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Speaker 1: a best friend named Grant. I'm still one of my

464
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Speaker 1: best friends today that would like pray with me in

465
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Speaker 1: the morning when I would wake up and just be

466
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Speaker 1: a mess, like panicking. And so God like knew He's

467
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Speaker 1: so good. He just knew what was coming and made

468
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Speaker 1: preparations because he's like I'm gonna free you, but like

469
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Speaker 1: you got to choose me, you got to walk this out.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so I kind of regressed and went backwards.

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Speaker 1: But I truly believe if I would have like used

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Speaker 1: my free will to just steward my life with the

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Speaker 1: Lord and really be in the word and just you know, abide.

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Speaker 1: I know, that's when the addiction was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: over when I was twenty four, but unfortunately, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was back after I walked back into it.

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Speaker 3: Wow. And so and then what happened when when COVID hit?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, does anyone remember COVID fun times? So yeah, So

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Speaker 1: by that point I was living in California. I'd become

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Speaker 1: a professor in Fresno, California, and COVID hits, and I remember,

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Speaker 1: just like I was in my apartment like everyone else,

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Speaker 1: and in California, they were like, don't go outside because

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Speaker 1: if you breathe the air outside at all, you'll die.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, well that's terrible. I can't even

485
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Speaker 1: you can't.

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Speaker 4: Go to the beach alone because you know you might die.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so funny. I used to, you know,

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Speaker 3: during COVID, I would walk I.

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Speaker 4: Live like five blocks from Beverly Hills, and I would

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Speaker 4: go to Beverly Hills every day and walk for an hour. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and you know, the streets are like as wide as

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Speaker 4: a football field in Beverly Hills, Like they're super wide.

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Speaker 4: And this was like a year into COVID. This was

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Speaker 4: like when COVID was like it's not really in Beverly Hills,

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Speaker 4: by the way, was like the only city in Los

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Speaker 4: Angeles that didn't require mass like you could.

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Speaker 3: Like everywhere else you had to have a mask on

498
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Speaker 3: otherwise you would get like, you know, dragged to the gulag.

499
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Speaker 4: But in Beverly Hills like they didn't care. And so

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Speaker 4: I was walking one day there was there was a

501
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Speaker 4: older couple and they were so far away from it.

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Speaker 4: They were like way fun, like I don't know, fifty

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Speaker 4: yards for me or something. And when they saw that

504
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Speaker 4: I was walking without a mask on, they had I mean,

505
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Speaker 4: the wife had a melt down like I've never seen

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Speaker 4: anything like it in my life. She literally was like

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Speaker 4: shaking and freaking out and panicking. I'm like crazy, Oh

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Speaker 4: my gosh.

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Speaker 1: So far away from me.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Sorry, I had to tell that story, so anyway,

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Speaker 4: get back to that.

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Speaker 3: So what happened with you?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, so I'm in my apartment all the time,

514
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Speaker 1: and I started watching live streams of a church that

515
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Speaker 1: I had somehow come into contact with over the years

516
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Speaker 1: from Illinois, and basically what they were teaching on was

517
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Speaker 1: like just the power of the Holy Spirit and what's

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Speaker 1: available to us as believers, and people were talking about

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Speaker 1: their freedom from addiction and how the Lord came and

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Speaker 1: set them free. And I started getting so interested in

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Speaker 1: like freedom and the power of God and how he

522
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Speaker 1: moves through the gifts of the Spirit, and I was

523
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Speaker 1: so excited to see that. And a big revelation that

524
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Speaker 1: came out of that season was that there was a

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Speaker 1: guy preaching and he was talking about the fact that

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Speaker 1: he was always identifying with his sin, that he thought

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Speaker 1: he was the things that he did, and he told

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Speaker 1: himself that his whole life. But then he talked about

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Speaker 1: the freedom of living by the Word instead of by

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Speaker 1: your feelings, which is a huge thing that I preached

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Speaker 1: all the time. And it's not just for like same

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Speaker 1: sex attraction. It's like everything goes back to this. The

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Speaker 1: Word is declared one thing about us, our flesh declares another,

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Speaker 1: and you have to choose, like which one are you

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Speaker 1: gonna abide by and so I had never thought of that.

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Speaker 1: So basically, for an example, like when I used to

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Speaker 1: confess my sin to the Lord, I would be like, Lord,

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Speaker 1: i know I'm just a disgusting, awful sinner and I've

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Speaker 1: messed up again and I'm so horrible and I know

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Speaker 1: that you hate me, but if you can just forgive

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Speaker 1: me one more time on ever, do it again? Amen,

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Speaker 1: which was like, so it was just speaking death over

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Speaker 1: my life and like and false understanding of God as

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Speaker 1: a father completely, like just like he's just mad all

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Speaker 1: the time. So suddenly I started even confessing there's.

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Speaker 4: No condemnation in Christ Jesus, by the way, just like

547
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Speaker 4: you know, and you're going to get to this, but

548
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Speaker 4: like you know, when when we're forgiven of our sins,

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Speaker 4: when we're born again, when we're saved, whatever the word

550
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Speaker 4: you want to use, our sins are forgiven, yes, past,

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Speaker 4: present and future.

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Speaker 3: Like, man, they're done, they're done, they're done. They're done.

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Speaker 4: When you're adopted by God and to his kingdom, when

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Speaker 4: you're adopted into His kingdom, there's there's there's no And

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Speaker 4: I asked one of my professors in seminary this years

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Speaker 4: ago and it was such a great answer. It was

557
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Speaker 4: such kind of and I've said this before on the show,

558
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Speaker 4: but it was such a revelation to me because I said,

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Speaker 4: he said, you know, he mentioned, you know, we're forgiven

560
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Speaker 4: past president the future. And I said, well, why then,

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Speaker 4: why do we confess our sins?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And he said because you're in a relationship.

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Speaker 1: Yes. I love that, And I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Like it's like a husband and wife in a relationship,

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Speaker 4: Like you confess your sin because you want that relationship

567
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Speaker 4: to flourish and you want it too to be like

568
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Speaker 4: you say, abundant, and you want it to you know.

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Speaker 4: So like if you're constantly in that state of sin

570
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Speaker 4: and you're constantly not confessing it, then you're in that

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Speaker 4: shame and then that it damages the relationship. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: damage your salvation, it damages the relationship.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so good, So anyway, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: What were you going to say about.

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Speaker 1: That's so true? And I love your guests from Venezuela

576
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Speaker 1: that you just had. Yes, yes, Carlo good, Yes, everybody

577
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: should watch that.

578
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: By the way, if you haven't seen that episode, guys,

580
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Speaker 4: I so many people have have messaged me saying it.

581
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Speaker 4: I was stunned because people I've gotten so many messages

582
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Speaker 4: by people saying this is the best episode you've ever done.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, okay, so please we'll link to

584
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Speaker 4: that below, but anyway, go ahead tell me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So, just what he was saying about, like when

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Speaker 1: you're in Christ, you're you're one with Him, Like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just telling this to my I was

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Speaker 4: telling this to my neighbor. I'm because I'm evangelizing my

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Speaker 4: Jewish neighbor. And she just gave her. I just gave

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Speaker 4: her a Bible and I explained to her, when you're united,

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Speaker 4: when you're united to Christ, let's say, so this is you,

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Speaker 4: the iPhone is you in Christ is living water. So

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Speaker 4: when you're united to Christ, and let's say that light

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Speaker 4: is God, there is no there's no way, it's impossible

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Speaker 4: for you to be condemned because God would have to

596
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Speaker 4: condemn Christ, right because you're united to Him.

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Speaker 3: You're literally united Christ.

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Speaker 1: Come on, yes, and uh.

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Speaker 4: And not and not only is your as I always

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Speaker 4: say this, but not only is your you know, is

601
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Speaker 4: your sin forgiven? But His perfect righteousness is imputed to you. Yes,

602
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Speaker 4: So now when God sees you, he sees you as

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Speaker 4: perfectly righteous.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't see you.

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Speaker 4: As like, you know, the all that stuff that you

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Speaker 4: were feeling, the shame over it, like, he doesn't see that.

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Speaker 3: He sees you as perfectly righteous, not because of you,

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Speaker 3: but because of what Jesus did on the cross.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, right, He's always showing you like it's always

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Speaker 1: through that Jesus lens that the Father sees us. So

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Speaker 1: that was something that I never understood about salvation or sonship.

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Speaker 1: I never got it. And so when I was watching

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Speaker 1: these teachings and they were talking about even the way

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Speaker 1: we confess our sin, it can be according to the

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Speaker 1: Word of God. So my confession went from like I'm horrible.

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Speaker 1: I'm horrible, Please forgive me. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: will amen to Lord. I take responsibility for what just happened,

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Speaker 1: and I confess that it was wrong and it was

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Speaker 1: against you. But God, I thank you that I'm now

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Speaker 1: the righteousness of God in Christ. Jesus, I thank you

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Speaker 1: that you've seated me in heavenly places, and that you

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Speaker 1: separate my sin from me as far as the East

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Speaker 1: is from the west, and that you will remember it

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Speaker 1: no more in Jesus' name. So good also I actually

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Speaker 1: started It's amazing, like life and death is in the

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Speaker 1: power of the tongue. The Bible says that over and over.

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Speaker 1: Like when I started speaking the Word over my life

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Speaker 1: and even confessing by the word things, it was like

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Speaker 1: part of the journey of it, of the healing coming

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Speaker 1: because my identity was starting to come into alignment with

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Speaker 1: the Word instead of my feelings. And so that was

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Speaker 1: just actually such a fruitful time in my life. And

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty is actually when I moved to Iowa

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Speaker 1: where I am now. So it was it was like

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Speaker 1: right before the next season of my life, God started

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Speaker 1: getting me really much deeper in the Word and much

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Speaker 1: more identifying with the Word.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this short break. And then

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Speaker 3: you say that I think this is in.

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Speaker 4: Iowa that you you were a professor at a Christian college,

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Yep?

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Speaker 4: And one night you were at a church meeting and

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Speaker 4: you had this you were set free of addiction, right,

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Speaker 4: So talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is awesome. So when I moved here,

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Speaker 1: I started going to this Bible study. A mutual friend

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Speaker 1: of the people that ran the Bible study and myself

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Speaker 1: told me about it, and so I show up in

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Speaker 1: these people's living room and just because they were looking

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Speaker 1: for someone to lead worship, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I lead worship, and yeah, I'll come. Sure, they asked

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Speaker 1: me to come, so I led a couple songs and

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Speaker 1: then after I was done, this woman looked at me.

655
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Speaker 1: Her name's Christina, and she said, we've been waiting for you,

656
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: and of like what She's like, We've been praying for

657
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: God to send us a worship leader, and you're him.

658
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: You're the one that he spent. I was like, oh, okay,

659
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: but it was it was actually like a total God

660
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Speaker 1: set up. It was crazy. And so I started running

661
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Speaker 1: with these people and they were doing ministry when all

662
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: the churches were closed. They were doing like living room

663
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Speaker 1: you know, church gatherings. And then we started doing revivals

664
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Speaker 1: on people's farms because we're in Iowa and everyone has

665
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Speaker 1: a farm. So we were just like doing these events

666
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: all over the place and people were just getting really

667
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: touched by the Lord and really experiencing the Holy Spirit

668
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: a lot of people for the first time. And so yeah,

669
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Speaker 1: we started doing these like monthly kind of more of

670
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Speaker 1: a formal church gathering. And it was at one of

671
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Speaker 1: those that I remember like the process was ongoing, like

672
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: I was getting incrementally more free, but I was just

673
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: so tired of like struggling and so tired of being weary,

674
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: and just like, man, when is this going to end?

675
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: So a friend prayed over me, and yeah, in the moment,

676
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, thanks, yeah, amen, see you later,

677
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: Like it was like nothing crazy happened in that moment.

678
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Speaker 1: But as I was driving away from this barn event

679
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Speaker 1: building we were in, I'm just driving on the road

680
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: in the middle of the fields, and again, like the

681
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: presence of God touches me while I'm in my car,

682
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: and I can't really explain this, but I just start

683
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: like laughing and nothing's funny. And I'm sitting there and

684
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I laughing? I'm in a field,

685
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: a cornfield, Like nothing is funny, and it's just the

686
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: joy of the Lord is just like touching me. And

687
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Speaker 1: I'm like laughing in the face of the enemy for

688
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: what he's tried to do to me my whole life.

689
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Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there and the joy of the Lord

690
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: is just filling me, and I'm like okay. And it

691
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: goes on for like five solid minutes and I just

692
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening. And then from that day I've

693
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: never gone back to addiction again and it's been over

694
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Speaker 1: five years now. Wow, it's so like it's just crazy,

695
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: So like yeah, I can't really explain everything, but it's

696
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: like the Lord is the freedom giver. He sets us free.

697
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: He knows when we're ready maybe to like maintain it

698
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: and walk it out and not keep going back to it.

699
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: But like it was so special and so now it's

700
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: like that's not even an issue anymore. I don't have

701
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: to have a dumb phone instead of a smartphone. I

702
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: don't have to have no you know, internet in my house.

703
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: Like there's actual freedom that he gave and it's not

704
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: it's really not even a thought anymore, which you I

705
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: can't tell you how much this dominated my life, like

706
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: it was a problem. So God is so good and

707
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: he will do the same for anyone like that comes

708
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: to him because that's his will. Like he wants us

709
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Speaker 1: to be free.

710
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: And praise God, that's amazing.

711
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: And you you have a desire to get married. You're

712
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Speaker 4: waiting for missus Miller.

713
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm miss Miller.

714
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Speaker 3: Where's missus Miller?

715
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Speaker 1: Where is he? Has anyone seen her anywhere.

716
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Speaker 4: So tell me about that. I mean, do you do

717
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 4: you want to have like a family and everything? Do

718
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Speaker 4: you want to have kids?

719
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Speaker 1: I do, yeah, And all my friends are having kids

720
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: right now, so I have like stand ins, which is good.

721
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: There's some extras right now. But the uh yeah. I

722
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Speaker 1: remember I was leading worship at an event probably in

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Speaker 1: like twenty twenty one in near Minneapol, and these you know,

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Speaker 1: you know those women in the church that are just

725
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: like the power women of God, like the intercessors, who are.

726
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 3: Always the women.

727
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: It's so funny, it's always the women are always the

728
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 4: prayer warriors.

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00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: Yes, So there were these two, and one of them

730
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Speaker 1: after my worship set, she just sat down with me

731
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: and she's like, Okay, if you could ask God for

732
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: anything in your life right now, what would it be.

733
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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I would love to just

734
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: like really operate in the gifts of the spirit like

735
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: fully and just really live out my purpose in the Lord.

736
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, and I feel like I'm supposed

737
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Speaker 1: to say because I'm thirty. At this point, I was like,

738
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Speaker 1: I'm thirty and a Christian, so I shouldn't be married.

739
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: So I guess that too. So she says to me,

740
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: She's like she stops and looks at me, and she's like,

741
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: the Lord has that for you, but he's waiting for

742
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: you to want it. And I was like, huh, like

743
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: I that's okay, interesting and I cannot again this is

744
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: just crazy. But like probably a year later, I had

745
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: always considered it. But you know, after same sex attraction

746
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: and stuff, you're like, could this ever even happen? Is

747
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 1: this for me? Do I just have to be CELLI

748
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: bate whatever. And when I tell you, the desire for

749
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: marriage came so strong when I was like thirty one.

750
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: It just like smacked me and I was like, oh

751
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: I think I want it now. Okay, this is what

752
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: it is. And so that desire just started building. But

753
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: for the right person, right, not just like I just

754
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: want to go anyone. It's like that ministry partner, that

755
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: person that you're really you are going to love, you

756
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: are going to yeah, be attracted to and like walk

757
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: out your calling with. And so yeah, that's been a

758
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: desire and we're waiting for the Lord to fulfill it.

759
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: And believe you me, I have prayed not stop for

760
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: years now.

761
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Speaker 3: So yeah, he's good, amazing. Well, godly women out there.

762
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: If you're watching Tyler's email addresses Mark Tyler Miller. No,

763
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 4: your website is Mark Tyler Miller dot com, so contact him.

764
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Speaker 1: I thought this was a dating show, this Isel Dog.

765
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Speaker 3: And so you.

766
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody, you say, everybody please pray for me as

767
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 4: you wait for missus Miller. So yeah, people please pray

768
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: for for titles to pray together.

769
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Speaker 3: Okay.

770
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and by the way, and so and then you

771
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: also have which I didn't know about this, but you

772
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 4: have a podcast, So talk about your podcast.

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00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I started this a couple of years ago. It's

774
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Speaker 1: called The Resurrection Identity Podcast, and the first episode is

775
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: kind of this story. It's my testimony and what the

776
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: Lord brought me through. But the podcast is just sort

777
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: of a way to talk about like what do we

778
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: have access to in Christ and what does a resurrected

779
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: life look like? And so there's a lot of different

780
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: topics we've hit on, like self harm, homosexuality, addiction, victory, freedom,

781
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: things like that, and so yeah, it's just a little

782
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: way to kind of do some teaching and then also

783
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Speaker 1: share testimony and hopefully people like grow in the Lord together.

784
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Speaker 1: So it's been really sweet and.

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Speaker 3: Are you still leading worship.

786
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so I'm a worship pastor now at activation

787
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Speaker 1: church in Iowa, and that's been, yeah, the joy of

788
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: my life, and that's been full time for the last year.

789
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: About nice nice.

790
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Speaker 4: Well, Tyler Miller, thank you for coming on the show.

791
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 4: We'll put the link below to your podcast and to

792
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: your website, but thank you for coming on the show

793
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Speaker 4: and sharing your story.

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Speaker 3: God is amazing.

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Speaker 4: And just by the way, I mean, what would you

796
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Speaker 4: tell I mean, I know you probably talk about this

797
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 4: on your podcast, but what would you tell people who

798
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 4: are watching, who like you, you know, were struggling in

799
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: that shame cycle and like struggling with addiction.

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Speaker 3: What would you say to them? I mean, I know

801
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: we've talked about it, but like.

802
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Speaker 1: Just right first, I would say, you are deeply, deeply

803
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: loved by the Lord. Your love so far beyond what

804
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: you can understand. It's not even funny. Like the Lord

805
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: is your father. God is your father, and he's good.

806
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: He's good to you. He knows you, he knit you together.

807
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: He knew, just like he said to me, he knew

808
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: all of the dumb things you would do. He knew

809
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: all of the sin that you would find yourself in

810
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: and He chose to create you anyway in spite of

811
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: those things, because of the glory that will be revealed

812
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: through your life. And so I just want to encourage

813
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Speaker 1: anyone out there to truly believe that and bring those

814
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Speaker 1: things to the Lord. And if you're like, Lord, I

815
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: see you as this angry father, I see you as

816
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: this abusive, horrible whatever, Like, deal with it with the Lord.

817
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: Bring it to him and ask him to renew your mind.

818
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Speaker 1: Get into the Word, start renewing your mind in him,

819
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: let the Holy Spirit transform you. And just know, like

820
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: if there's any proof of this, look at this show,

821
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: look at the beck of Cook's show, Like how many

822
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: people have been on this show, and be like, the

823
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: Lord set me free of the most horrible thing we

824
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: can possibly imagine. Like it's all over the place. God

825
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: is moving, And so I would just encourage you just

826
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Speaker 1: really know the love of the Lord. It's not about

827
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: your performance, it's not about you earning his love. It's

828
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Speaker 1: about his resurrection and rest that he's releasing over you.

829
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Speaker 1: And so I just encourage you in that, like God

830
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Speaker 1: has such a future and a hope in store for you.

831
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Speaker 3: Yes, amen, Amen.

832
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Speaker 4: And And by the way, I mean, that's what I think.

833
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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of Christians, it's kind of like

834
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Speaker 4: over the last I don't know how long, but I've

835
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: really started to really deeply, deeply understand God's grace. And

836
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Speaker 4: of course Paul says, shall we go on sitting that

837
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 4: grace may abound by no means obviously, but when you

838
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: really really understand, like you're saying, like God, it's not

839
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Speaker 4: even funny how much God loves you, like it's this

840
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Speaker 4: crazy like and you really understand his grace, it's grace

841
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 4: from start to finish, Like it's grace, grace, grace, Like

842
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 4: if you really get that, you don't feel that condemnation,

843
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 4: you don't feel that insecurity about like oh my Gosh,

844
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 4: to lose my salvation, Oh my God, like you it's

845
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 4: just you have to like you have to understand grace

846
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 4: like it just just ask God to just help you

847
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 4: get it because that legalism is deadly, Like the legalistic

848
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 4: mindset is just poison.

849
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Speaker 3: It's from the pit of Hell and it's deadly.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So yeah, go ahead. I was just gonna say,

851
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Speaker 1: I feel like for those of us that grew up

852
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: in the church, it's such a different experience, Like if

853
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: you if you grew up and maybe we're living a

854
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: life of sin into your like adulthood and then you

855
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: have this radical encounter with the Lord and change. I

856
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: feel like it's a very different experience than people that like, well,

857
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: I grew up in the church and I was still

858
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: a mess. What's the deal with that?

859
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: Like?

860
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Speaker 1: How what am I supposed to do with that? Was

861
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: I not really saved? Is God's God against me?

862
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: Like?

863
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and that's where this legalism slips in. Well,

864
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: you didn't try hard enough, you didn't do enough, so

865
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Speaker 1: you need to do more. And that was how I

866
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: kept trying to solve my own issues, was like, if

867
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: I just do more, God will be pleased with me,

868
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: and then he'll heal me if I And that's been

869
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Speaker 1: like the fight of my life now, is like that

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Speaker 1: perfectionism stuff, just getting rid of that and being like

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Speaker 1: it is only by his blood that I can do anything.

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Speaker 1: So like, by his blood, by his spirit and the

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Speaker 1: power of his name. It's not it's not up to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually called to rest in the Lord and he

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Speaker 1: will sanctify me and he will move me forward. And y'all,

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Speaker 1: he has been so faithful to do that so I

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Speaker 1: just want to encourage you he will do the same

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Speaker 1: in your life. If the Holy Spirit lives in you,

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Speaker 1: that's what he does, Like that is his role. He

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Speaker 1: is sanctifying and moving you forward in your life in him.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's like in the Book of Galatians, it's

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Speaker 4: like we're it's like, you know, you foolish Galatians. You started,

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Speaker 4: you know, by faith, and now you're continuing.

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Speaker 1: It's like this whole kind of works righteousness.

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Speaker 4: It's like we understand we're saved by grace alone, but

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Speaker 4: then suddenly where we become like a works righteousness person

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Speaker 4: and we're like, oh, we have to work. We have

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Speaker 4: to constantly work and like help and make sure God

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Speaker 4: is okay with us and please with us, and if

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Speaker 4: he's not, Like it's just this constant fear. It's like

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Speaker 4: a fear thing. I'm not the fear of the Lord.

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Speaker 4: It's a different kind of fear. It's a it's a

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Speaker 4: condemnation fear from the enemy. But anyway, man, we'll leave

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Speaker 4: it there. Tyler Miller, thank you for coming.

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Speaker 3: On and sharing this.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much for having me. This was

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Speaker 1: such a joy and I'm so I just want to

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Speaker 1: like take a second to just like honor you and

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Speaker 1: your life and what you're doing and the way that

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Speaker 1: you've stood up in this area is like you're knocking

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Speaker 1: down walls for generations to come. And so I just

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Speaker 1: want to so encourage you. Not God. It's so pleased

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Speaker 1: with you, Beckett.

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Speaker 4: Well, praise God. It's all you know. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: But it's all God and it's His grace working through me.

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Speaker 4: But thank you so much. Yes Hellelujah, Wait, don't touch

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to this episode of The Beckett

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Speaker 2: Cook Show. Your support makes this content possible. All episodes

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