1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to this episode of Thinking Christian. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm doctor James Spencer and I'm joined today by Scott Lindsay. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: He's an executive director. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: At Lagos, and we're going to be talking a little 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: bit about Bible study, and we're going to be talking 6 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: about what Logos offers to help you with Bible study. 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: And so Scott, I'm really excited to have you on 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: the program. I you know, we were talking a little 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: bit before the episode and I said, I tried to 10 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: lead into this how Logos got started. When I first 11 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: started seminary, I took Greek and Hebrew only computer aided. 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't really read it. 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: I couldn't you know, I couldn't cite read Greek or Hebrew. 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: But I was doing these sort of complex exegetical tasks 15 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: in gram cord, which was way back in the day, 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: you know, loaded on with a CD. I don't even 17 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: know whether people know what that is right now, but 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: that was sort of my origins with this, and so 19 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: I'm interested to hear a little bit about how Logos 20 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: got started and what your initial products were and just 21 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: how it got off the ground. 22 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you have a doctric as you 23 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: said logos. Okay, Now I did go to seminary, but 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: I say logos simply because if I say that, you know, 25 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: on an airplane, I don't know what they're going to Google, 26 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: La gi whatever. Now what I won't accept is low gos. 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: I'll hear that where people took the two and made one. 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, logos right, yeah, but yeah, no, it's 29 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: an amazing story. So this is my twenty ninth year 30 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: with Logos. Were just celebrated thirty four years as a company, 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: and we're up here Pacific Northwest, little north of Seattle. 32 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: And that's part of her story because the founder was 33 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 3: Bill Gate's youngest program manager at the time at seventeen. 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: So the family that started Logos again thirty four years 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: ago was East Coast Jersey. Bob got this internship at Microsoft. 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: I think it was sixteen when he initially started interning. Obviously, 37 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: very very smart guy, smart kid, and was grown up 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: in a home where the Bible was important, church was important. 39 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: Mom was a librarian, Dad was kind of in tech. 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: So hey, let's take tech and libraries and let's let's uh, 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: let let's do something. And what's funny is the rule 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: of the home at the time for the two boys. 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: So Bob has a brother is uh, you know, they 44 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: they had access to computers, probably before anybody else did, 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: just because of what Dad did. And the rule was, 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: I'm not buying any software you're going to create. If 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: you want a game, you make it. If you if 48 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: you want this, you got to make it. So it 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: was the challenge to learn coding. And Bob took that 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: challenge and uh, you know, started coding and got this 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: internship at Microsoft. And while at Microsoft, he met another Christian. 52 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: My joke is there was one other. And they used 53 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: the labs at Microsoft to create the first ever Bible 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: software program in this new thing called Windows. And so 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: they met with the leadership was about a year and 56 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: a half, met with the leadership and showed him this tool. 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: They were excited, Hey, we can use Windows to study 58 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: the Bible. And they said, no, we're not. You can. 59 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: You can. You can get out of here with that. 60 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: So they signed the rights over to Bob and his 61 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: friend and they thought, wow, you know, I think this 62 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: would really benefit the church. So they that was a 63 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: tough decision to make and I've asked him, you know, 64 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: will occasionally hang out, and you know, I said, have 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: you ever got a calculator out figured out your stock 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: options what they would be worth now had you stayed. 67 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: And he's like, don't ever ask me that again, Scott, 68 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: because he'd be worth a fortune right now because that's 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: how they that's how they paid back then, right, you know, 70 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: low salary. But hey, if this Windows thing work out, 71 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: works out, you'll you'll do fine. But there was no regret, 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: you know, He's like, no, I want to serve the church. 73 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: I want to help people study the Bible better. So 74 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: the family cleared savings, everything moved out to Washington State 75 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: and lo and behold. Logo Research Systems was the first 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: official name, and then we joked then with Logos Bible Software, 77 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: which we don't say that anymore either. It's just Logos now. 78 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: And what's amazing about the story is we're now a 79 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: couple million users now worldwide, multiple languages, so we have 80 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: logos in German, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese, Korean. But the 81 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: number that's shocking, which for people like you, this is 82 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: the number that's most exciting, is we have three hundred 83 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: thousand books in our format. So whatever interests you seriously Greek, Hebrew, 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: you know, archaeology, apologetics, what have you. If you go 85 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: to logos dot com, you'll be shocked at the sheer 86 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: volume of content that we have in our format. So 87 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm here in Washington. You know, after COVID, three hundred 88 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: and fifty employees just kind of went home in the Raleigh, Dallas. 89 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: I stayed here. We only have about fifty of the 90 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: three hundred plus employees still headquartered here in Washington State. 91 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, I love it here. Not leaving. But that's 92 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: a little history of how we got started. 93 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: And now you've got an AI sort of built in 94 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: AI platform that you're using to help people study the Bible. 95 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: Let's just talk through that a little bit, because when 96 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: you showed it to me, I think it does two 97 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: things that I really think are crucial when we think 98 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: about AI. One of my concerns about AI and the 99 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: church particularly is that open source AIS is what I'll 100 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: call them. I know they're not really called that, but 101 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 2: everybody kind of gets that vibe. So the open source 102 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: ones that are sort of open to the Internet, they're 103 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: going to crawl, They're gonna find information for you. Claude chat, GPT, Gemini, gronk, 104 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: those kind of they're pulling information, but you don't necessarily 105 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: know what they're pulling, and it feels like, no matter 106 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: how much training I try to give, you know, my 107 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 2: instance of claude, I'm constantly having these sort of moments 108 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: where I think to myself, still pulling sort of junkie 109 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: information in for me, you know, yeah, yeah, And so 110 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: you know that's that's problem A. And then I think, 111 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: you know, problem B is that when we use these 112 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: things in a way that isn't targeted, we open ourselves 113 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: up to what I would say is sort of unnuanced 114 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: summary information, the sort of thing that you get pulled 115 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: up at the top end of your Google search. Now, 116 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: every time that these are just you know, real pithy, 117 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: short answers, they sort of give you the surface level 118 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: understanding of what you might be looking for, and for 119 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: a lot of things like if I want a restaurant 120 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: near me, that's great, But if I'm really looking to 121 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: dig into God's word, these are not the sort of 122 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: answers that should be satisfactory to us. And so I 123 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: think your system really solves both those problems plus a 124 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: lot more So. I'm just interested how you talk it 125 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: through and maybe explain it to people. And obviously we're 126 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: gonna do a demo of it here on the show, 127 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: but just help people understand what you all have done. 128 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm I'm gonna dog on AI a little 129 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: bit because I actually think it's people aren't as concerned 130 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: as they should be, honestly. I mean, Barna just released 131 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: the State of the Church for twenty twenty six, and 132 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: believe it or not, Christians of any demographic in the 133 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: United States right now are using AI more than any 134 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: other people group right now. The church. Okay. The thing 135 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: that's scary though, is more than half now say they 136 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: trust AI with their spiritual life, and another more than 137 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: half now trust AI more than their pastor. So we 138 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: have a problem because, as you said, you have to 139 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: train it in order to really finally get to a 140 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: point where it's kind of trustworthy. I mean, I don't 141 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: think it's ever, but kind of. You know. I'll have 142 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: people say to me all the time, you know, oh, Scott, 143 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: AI is not as bad as you say for biblical 144 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: questions in theology. And you know, I say, listen, pit 145 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: bulls make great family pets, right, No, they don't. I mean, 146 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: look at the stats. I have fourteen grandkids. I have 147 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: ten children. I don't know if you knew that, but 148 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: we've adopted a ton of kids, and so I got 149 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: a lot of kids around house. I'm not going to 150 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: get a pit bowl because I know the dangers. I 151 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: know the stats. Now the pushback from people is again, 152 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: train it. Like listen, I wouldn't know how to train 153 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: a pit pull right, So I just don't think the 154 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 3: risk is worth it. So Logos is kind of AI 155 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: with guardrails. Because we're using AI, we have a philosophical 156 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: difference than any other option out there for three main reasons. 157 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: Number one is garbage in, garbage out. We're not connecting 158 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: you to the internet. So you can imagine James when 159 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: we announced to our millions of users we put AI 160 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 3: in Logos. Oh that was a fun week at Logo. 161 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: I mean we got phone calls. I hate you. I'm 162 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: nailing back my old CD ROMs, you know, Mark of 163 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: the Beast voicemails. You know, all kinds are crazy. But listen, 164 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: I was actually fine with the pushback because that that's 165 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: I think we need to have more concern. Actually, so 166 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: what I what I tell everybody is Logos AI has 167 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: not connected the Internet, so it's not pulling Reddit and 168 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: bloggers and crazy, right, it's only AI wrapped around the 169 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: Bible and scholarship, so real content, right, commentaries and Bible 170 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: dictionaries and things like that. So number one, big difference there. 171 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: Number two is hallucinations. Now you know AI hallucinates, and 172 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: and they're actually the more they dig into this, it's 173 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: not only just hallucinating the answer making things up. It's 174 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: even hallucinating the sources. So it'll confidently say, here's the 175 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: answer to that question by this person and this periodical 176 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: And then when you dig, and here's the thing most 177 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: don't dig. It doesn't exist. The person doesn't exist, the 178 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: book doesn't exist. I mean, that's really concerning and scary. 179 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: But the thing that scares me the most about AI 180 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: is a thing called theory of mind. Now, theory of 181 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: mine is all AI is trying to figure you out. 182 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: It's tickling those ears. It's always kind of patting you 183 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 3: on the back and you're amazing. And not that James 184 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: is not amazing. I'm just saying, to be real and honest, 185 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: sometimes what the Bible tells me is not what I 186 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 3: want to hear right now. But it's really what I 187 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: need to hear right now, right. So you know, a 188 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: great example is a dear friend of mine in Dallas, 189 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: huge church pastor went to Chat. He's all in Logos, 190 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: It'd Scott, it is absolutely game changer for me, but 191 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: I'm curious. I went out to Chat. I asked a 192 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: question about Romans chapter one towards the back end, think 193 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: about it, and the interpretation that chat gave was not good, 194 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: not good, right, And so he pushed back, this is wrong, 195 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 3: and chat GBT said you're right, this is wrong. And 196 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: he's like, well, why did you tell me that then? 197 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: So now as a pastor, he's like, well, wait a second. 198 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: Now I'm really concerned because how many people at my 199 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: church have gone to Chat Google whatever asked a similar question. 200 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: Maybe got saved last weekend. It literally knows nothing really 201 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: about sound doctrine and how to interpret texts, and they're 202 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: now led astray because if you don't push back, it 203 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: will keep going down that road with you. Right, So 204 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: Logos doesn't do that. We're not trying to figure you 205 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: out now, you know, we don't hallucinate. And when I 206 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: say that, people say, well, you know, I went in 207 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: there on Baptism, and I'm Presbyterian, you know, and you 208 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: know I got more maybe of a Southern Baptist. Play well, listen, 209 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: that's not a hallucination, that's interpretation, right that. But I 210 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: love that about logos because I can say, how what 211 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 3: an Anglican you know, view this issue text whatever, how 212 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: at a Baptist. But again, that's not a hallucination, that's 213 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: just the broad context of the church. So yeah, well, 214 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: those are three big philosophical differences on how we're using 215 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: AI to help people study the Bible. 216 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: I think it really resonates with me because whenever I 217 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: talk to people who are trying to use AI, I 218 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: usually tell them there's a couple of rules that I 219 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: sort of follow. 220 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm using a claud or a chat GPT. 221 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: Number one, I don't ask anything that I'm not already 222 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: an expert in. I just don't use it for researching 223 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: new topics. I go back to the old school methods of, 224 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: you know, doing a lit review. If I want to 225 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: do that, right, just go out and find the information. 226 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: Myself read some of it, but I do not ask 227 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: it for new information because I can't tell where it's 228 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: missing and where it's hitting the mark, Whereas if it's 229 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: something that's you know, sort of a fastball for me 230 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: and I ask it a question just like your pastor did, well, 231 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: that Roman's won. 232 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: Is kind of off. 233 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 2: You know, I know that, and so that's not really 234 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: that big of a deal to me. If I'm doing 235 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: something and i'm you know, interacting with an AI and 236 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: it's giving me that sort of information, I could just 237 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: push back on it and it's no big deal. I 238 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: move past it and we're done. But I think that's 239 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: the benefit of using it as an expert. You already 240 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: have that training and now you can sort of push 241 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: back on the AI when it's appropriate. You know, when 242 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: it's giving you slippery information, you're going to check your 243 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: sources anyway. It does require a certain amount of diligence. 244 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: It doesn't take all it's not fool proof, and it 245 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: doesn't take. 246 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: All the work out of it. 247 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: And I think that would be I guess my follow 248 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: up question for you. When you're programming this into logos, 249 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: there's still the expectation that people aren't just going to 250 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 2: you know, read the blips that come up from AI 251 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: and logos, that they're going to click in and use 252 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: the resources that you are providing because these are really 253 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: good resources and they should dig into them. 254 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. So when and we'll do this in a bit 255 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 3: when I ask a theological question, We're going to give 256 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: you the sources to the page number with the hope 257 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 3: that you're like, wow, I like this. I want to 258 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: dig and read even more and further. And all you 259 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: do is click the link and boom the book opens 260 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: up there. But with you know, people have told me 261 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: I feel like now I have some confidence now when 262 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: I'm studying, because again I know that it's guarded. You know, 263 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: I call logos Ai logos Ai with guardrails, and boy 264 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: do we need guardrails in the church today. But with 265 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: the sources cited, so I can go and read further 266 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: and so and so forth. The other thing that it 267 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: the benefit is the time savings. You know, I understand busy. 268 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: I just told everybody I got ten kids and I 269 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: travel and my life's pretty crazy. But you know what, 270 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: I'm never too busy to tell the Lord. I can't 271 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: give them ten minutes today to study is the word. 272 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: There's no one so busy you can't squeeze ten minutes. 273 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: Now here's the thing though, ten minutes on Google having 274 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: to get through all the nonsense and the one point 275 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: two billion hits when you hit enter and all that stuff. 276 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: You just don't go that far right or even with paper. 277 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a book lover. If you could pan 278 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: the camera around my office, I got books everywhere. And 279 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: I remember pre logo stays, when I was a ministry, 280 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: what I used to call Bible study was actually not 281 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: really Bible study. What it was was gathering information, right, 282 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: I was opening that commentary, going to that Greek dictionary, 283 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: and so and so forth. And so one day I experiment, 284 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: I took one hour out of my old Bible study 285 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: days and I wrote down everything I was doing in 286 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: that hour that I called Bible study. You know what 287 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: it was looking, I mean, most of it was trying 288 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: to find I actually really only studied for like ten minutes, 289 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: like literally learning from the text and the resources. And 290 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: so Logos just kind of does does the heavy lifting, right, 291 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: It goes and finds the key commentaries, good scholarship. And 292 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: the other thing is everything's on mobile now, so you know, 293 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: most of us, that thing is in your hand a 294 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: few times a day. You know, I don't know if 295 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: you occasionally get that you were on your phone so 296 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: many hours a day, and it's like, oh, Lord, help 297 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: me with that. But if we can put tools to 298 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: study scripture in that same hand, hey maybe someone will 299 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: spend a little less time on Instagram or whatever and 300 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: dig deep into scripture and biblical studies. So mobile is 301 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: a huge part of the new logos. 302 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point. Why don't we why don't 303 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: we hop into it. Let's just take a look at 304 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: it and see what it looks like. For those of 305 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: you who are listening on audio, your still going to 306 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: be able to hear us talking. But my encouragement would 307 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: be to go check this video out on YouTube or 308 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: on GodTube so you can actually see the presentation that 309 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: God's going to do. So yeah, Scott, go ahead and 310 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: save your screen and or yeah, go ahead. 311 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. And actually, what I'll do, especially for those that 312 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: can only listen right now, is I've got some great 313 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: stats that I love to start with. I did a 314 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: video series years ago on the Bible, you know, canonicity 315 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: and how do we get the Old Testament and you 316 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 3: know all that stuff. And I stumbled upon a study 317 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: that I love to share everywhere I go, and it 318 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 3: was a study of six hundred thousand people, So I mean, 319 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: look at that number. That's a big, big number. A 320 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 3: lot of people participated. And then they analyze the data 321 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: to see the effects of the Bible on our lives, 322 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: like what happens when we're in God's work? Okay, And 323 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: this is what they discover. It's it's fascinating. When we're 324 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: in the Bible one time a week really doesn't do 325 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: much neglible change, doesn't really move the needle two times 326 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: a week, same three times a week. I think, barely 327 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: a blip. Okay, So one, two, three pretty flat. The 328 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: profound discovery was when we're in the Bible at least 329 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: four times a week, it spikes off the chart. And 330 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: this startled the smart people that looked at the data 331 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: because I would have assumed, like everybody, that there'd be 332 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: a gradual one, two, three, four, you know, No, one, two, 333 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: three flat four off the charts. Now what happens at 334 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: four or more? Well, Number one is feeling lonely drops 335 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: thirty percent, anger issues drop thirty two percent. Bitterness and relationship, 336 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: especially marriage, So when I teach at churches, this is 337 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 3: when the wife kind of nudges the husband, you know, 338 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 3: bitterness and relationship especially that drops forty percent, right, alcoholism 339 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: fifty seven percent. Drop sexual sin in particular pornography drops 340 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: sixty percent. And the biggest decline was anyone who says 341 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: I feel distant from God, So feeling spiritually stagnant drops 342 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: sixty two percent. Now positively sharing your faith two hundred 343 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: percent increase. And the big increase was discipling others, so 344 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: those that you do life with, your family, your coworkers 345 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: and so on, it jumps two hundred and thirty percent. 346 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: So bottom line, we need to be in the scripture. 347 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 3: I think everybody knows that. But there's something about the power. 348 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: They call this the power of four. So that's been 349 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 3: our goal at Logos, is to create a tool that 350 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: makes people or you know, just I want to be 351 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: in God's word. Right now, we talked about the AI 352 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: in Logos. Finally, you know, for anybody listening James that 353 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: had tried Logos ten years ago when it was user hateful, 354 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: I apologize it's now user friendly because of AI, right, 355 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: and it's because of what we talked about. Garbage in, 356 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: garbage out, not connecting the internet. We're not hallucinating. I mean, 357 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 3: these are some of the percentages on making up sources 358 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: like this is disturbing, right, So again confident answer, but 359 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: if you really dug into where the answer they say 360 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: came from, not a pretty picture, and then theory of mind, 361 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: We're we're not trying to figure you out. The other 362 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: thing is subscription. So if anyone listening had looked at 363 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: Logos back in the day and it was kind of 364 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: the premiere tool. It's what scholars like you or pastors 365 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: would go get and use. But it was hard to use, 366 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: and then it cost one thousand dollars. I mean it 367 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: was really really expensive to have Logos. We've now gone 368 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 3: a subscription as low as ten dollars a month. Now, 369 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: the good news is, because of today's podcasts and recording 370 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: and everything, we're going to give everyone a free sixty 371 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 3: day trial. So when we're done, I'll give everybody, Hey, 372 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 3: where do I go? I want to try this out 373 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: free sixty day trial of what we're talking about. For 374 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: those with us. Now, I'm going to jump in to 375 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: Logos real quick and just show you a couple things 376 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 3: in the time we have. This is Logos Desktop. Okay, 377 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: So again, when you download your free trial, you get 378 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: it on mobile, desktop, laptop, and there's even a web app, 379 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: so someone could actually work somewhere where they're like, we 380 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: do not want you loading Bible software on the work computer. 381 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: You still can go to a web browser, sign into 382 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: your logos, and have Bible study during your thirty minute 383 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: lunch break. So we have a web app as well. 384 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: This is new actually since the last time James, you 385 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 3: and I got together. This just came to Logos. We 386 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: did a massive overhaul on a reading plan side of 387 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: Logos because we want people reading not just the Bible, 388 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 3: but lots of good theological books and so on. So 389 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 3: you can see Scott's been a little flaky. I need 390 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: to get caught up. So this morning started out the 391 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: gate with some plumbing problems, so you know, so I 392 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: didn't have my morning time the way I wanted to, 393 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: with my strong cup of coffee. So but hey, listen, 394 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: I don't mind the account of ability. Accountability is good. 395 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: So I don't like red and my reading plan. I'll 396 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 3: fix that. But I'm reading Keller's Counterfeit God's. I'm reading C. S. 397 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: Lewis Problem of Pain. I'm real behind on that one. 398 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 3: So this weekend I'll get caught up. But notice James 399 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 3: the managed plans, and there's what I need to read today. 400 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: This is what I've got to read tomorrow. You know, 401 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: little Carson, little packer and I finished a Bible reading 402 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: plan a couple of years ago. I did the McShane 403 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: Bible Reading Plan. But what's great is if I want, 404 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 3: you know, my men's Bible study to jump into my 405 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: Knowing God Bible reading plan or not Bible eating plan 406 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: Packer plan. Notice the little dots right there, I can 407 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: actually now share the plan and it'll give me a 408 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: little link. I text it to my buddies and boom, 409 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 3: they're in my Bible reading plan for JAF Packers Knowing God, 410 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 3: which is really cool, right because the more accountabilities even better, right, 411 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 3: And then when we get together on Wednesdays, we'll talk 412 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: a little bit about that book and so on. So 413 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 3: this is brand new. You can pick any book in logos. 414 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: It could be the Bible, it could be a theological book, 415 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: what have you. And you can be very specific Monday, Thursday, Friday. 416 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: It'll send your phone a little reminder because again we 417 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 3: want people reading now. One of the other advantages with 418 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: subscription is not only the cost now is radically different 419 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: than old logos, but every six weeks there's a pretty 420 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: significant upgrade coming. Whereas old logos. If you remember back 421 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: in the day, it was every two to three years 422 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: that the new logos would come out, so you had 423 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: to wait two to three years for all the good, new, 424 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 3: you know, tools that we've created. So now every six 425 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: weeks it's kind of Christmas and logos, if you will, 426 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: because you know new stuff, right. But the two things 427 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: that I want to cover in our time today. The 428 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: first one's called study Assistant. Okay, so Study Assistant. This 429 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: just released, I want to say, six months ago, and 430 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 3: this is where you're having a conversation in logos now 431 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: about anything. So it could be, hey, my wife is 432 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: struggling with anxiety, how can I be a better husband? 433 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: How can I serve her? Logos has counseling. It'll pull 434 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 3: in the verses and ways in which to accomplish what 435 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 3: I need help with. You can say, what is this 436 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: Greek word and Ephesians chapter three, verse whatever, and go 437 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: pull my Greek diction. I mean, the amount of work 438 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: is significant, or it can be theology. So I'm going 439 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 3: to start simple and then I'll blow your mind with 440 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: some new things that have just recently happened, actually, but 441 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to start with what is the trinity? So 442 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: I just type in study assistant, what is the trinity? 443 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: And I want you to notice something, James, that there's 444 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: two buckets if you will, the all the answer from 445 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: So there's your books. That's my logo. So that's the 446 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 3: late You know the different options we have, which we'll 447 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: share here towards the end, but I want everybody to 448 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: notice that all books is an option. Now. This is 449 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: my pastor's favorite new feature in logos, and probably will 450 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: be James's favorite feature because when you flip the switch 451 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: to all books, we are allowing you to search a 452 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: seven million dollar theological library. Remember I said we have 453 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 3: three hundred thousand books. We're letting you search that whole 454 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: theological library. Now, the danger, James is we're going to 455 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 3: introduce you to books that you don't own. So you'll 456 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: read a little bit and then it'll say what twelve 457 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: ninety five, eighteen ninety five. So James, before you ever 458 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: do this, take your wallet, lock it in another room 459 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 3: because the temptation will be great. As my past says, 460 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: so I would advise to always start with your books 461 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: that that's your level, Premium, Proomax. Those are the three 462 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: levels we have at Logo. So I'm going to start 463 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: with my level and I'm going to enter and here 464 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: we go. Now, what Logos is doing right now is 465 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 3: for me, it's reading a couple thousand books. Okay, So 466 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: how long would it take you to read all the 467 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: theological books you own? Hey, go give me a good 468 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 3: answer on the Trinity and I you know you're not 469 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 3: going to do that. But notice notice the citations right, So, 470 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 3: great answer on the Trinity, but number one represents that 471 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 3: particular Bible dictionary and the page number this one is 472 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: another dictionary and page number right the Evangelical Dictionary Theology. 473 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: So if I want to read further out of let's 474 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: say this particular theology, then I just clicked the button 475 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 3: and I'm reading. So you're never going to click and 476 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 3: logos and have us say you got us, we made 477 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 3: that up, right, you know, No, we're gonna We're gonna 478 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: give you the book and the page number. Now here's 479 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 3: the thing. If this is not enough for you, So 480 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: one of the goals in Logo say, is not to 481 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 3: kill you with too much information, right, But some people 482 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 3: want to be killed like James might be studying something 483 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: later tonight, and you're like, listen, I want as much 484 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: very possibly, right, so you can type down here, give 485 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: me more, and it will layer in more Bible dictionaries, 486 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: more theologies, more input. Right. So I just want to 487 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: point that out because I've had people say, hey, Logos, 488 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: sometimes I feel like, ah, you know, give me more. 489 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: I said, did you ever ask that? Nope, Well there 490 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: you go. Okay, Now I'm gonna continue the conversation. I'm 491 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: gonna now say I've got my theology. I'm gonna say 492 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: what are key passages? So I'm typing what are key passages? 493 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: And notice, James, I didn't say about the trinity because 494 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: my conversation is already about the trinity. So Logos knows, Hey, 495 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: that's what we're talking about. I don't need to restate 496 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: the conversation. And this is this is exactly what happened 497 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: to me about four months ago. This is a good answer, James. Okay, 498 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: key passages. If I wanted more, I could say more. 499 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 3: But about four months ago, I got a phone call 500 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: and when I answered the phone, I could tell it 501 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: was an elderly gentleman and asked me James to would 502 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: you please, Scott come out to my house and show 503 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: me how to use the new logos. I've been hearing 504 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: about it. My scholar friends are talking about it, and 505 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: I said, oh, well, first, who is this right? Oh oh, 506 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: I'm so I'm so sorry, Scott. This is doctor Bruce Walkey. 507 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 3: Now I thought it was a joke, but it literally was. 508 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: He's going to James. He's going to be ninety six 509 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 3: years old, I think next week. Now do you know 510 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: the conviction that gripped my heart that a ninety six 511 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: year old scholar bar nun like? Honestly, I think maybe 512 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: one of the greatest Old Testament scholars living today, doctor 513 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: Bruce Walke, wants to study the Bible even more efficiently, 514 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: Like you know, hey, Bruce, you can call it in man. 515 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: You're you're you're good, right. So I literally went to 516 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: his house. I spent a whole day with him. This 517 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: is the same example that I started with him to 518 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: show him how do you study assistant And when he 519 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: saw James one passage for the Old Testament, he said, Scott, 520 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: come on, you know it's in there more than that 521 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: I know. So all I had to do to clear 522 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: that up James was say, I could say, give me 523 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 3: more OT, right, give me more OT. Logo snow's OT's 524 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: Old Testament. And this is when doctor Walke put his 525 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 3: arm around me and said, okay, you've You've made this 526 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: Old Testament scholar much much happier right now. The most 527 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: amazing thing, James is I brought my Old Testament theology, 528 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: uh you know, book of the year. I mean it's 529 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: it's probably one of the seminal Old Testament theologies. I 530 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: brought it with me for him to sign. I didn't 531 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: pay attention. I went home. I opened up the cover 532 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: James and he sided to Scott my mentor. So it 533 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: is now I'm now telling people, James that I am 534 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 3: doctor Bruce Walkie's mentor. It's now one of my treasured 535 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: possessions for sure. But again, notice how easy logos is. 536 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 3: You just have a conversation. But now I'm going to 537 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: get a little apologetic here. I'm going to ask a 538 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: great question about the Trinity. I'm going to say, can 539 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: we know love without this doctrine? Now, obviously someone can 540 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: experience love without being a Christian or understanding, but listen, 541 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: the Bible declares God is love and God is trinitarian 542 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: fathers and the Holy Spirit. So I love this answer 543 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: because it's here they're inseparable, right, You really fundamentally have 544 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: to have the doctrine of the Trinity to know what 545 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: love is. Now here's the reason why this question came 546 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: to mind. I'm working with an NFL quarterback right now 547 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: who is leading the Bible study with his team, and 548 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: he's now he's had some Muslims attend the Bible study. 549 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 3: He's been using this idea to plant gospel seeds in 550 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: the hearts of his Muslim teammates. Because what do we 551 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: know a llahs one not father son hoys and what 552 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: is pretty radically missing from an Islamic worldview is love 553 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 3: and great why they don't have the trinity? Right? So 554 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 3: and watch this, James. This is how specific you can 555 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 3: be in study assistant, because there's a goal for this idea. 556 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to say, now, how can I use this 557 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: to plant gospel seeds and the hearts of my Muslim teammates? 558 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: I mean, look at how specific this question. So this 559 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: is the big idea. You can have a massive conversation 560 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: and study assistant. I mean you can dig deep, deep deep. 561 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 3: It could be twenty thirty layers of questions. But when 562 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: you need to use it for something, you can say 563 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: something like this, and logos picked up on the word 564 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: Muslim and it's literally apologetically imputting that for me with this. 565 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: So but this answer is going to be a lot 566 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: more evangelistic because that's what I said I wanted, right, 567 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: So this is amazing. And again, this is on your phone. Now. 568 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: If you start a conversation on your Android or iPhone 569 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: or whatever you have, the minute you go to your 570 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: desktop laptop, it's already there, so everything stays in sync. 571 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: So listen, James, I don't mind shopping with my wife 572 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: anymore more, you know. And I'm going to be sitting 573 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: there in that chair. I have logos on my iPhone 574 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: like I have had. I've had moments where I've told 575 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: my wife, go ahead, continue shopping, honey. I'm in a 576 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: study right now on whatever. Because the power of this 577 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: is in your pocket, right. And then lastly, I want 578 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 3: to show this. I love to do this in logos. 579 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: I can now say something like what did Augustin say? 580 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: You know, because maybe I want to know what a 581 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: father said? What did C. S. Lewis say? What did 582 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 3: you know if you have a favorite author, preacher dead old, 583 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: what have you? I love doing this because a lot 584 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: of times I want to know what did Augustine say? 585 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: What did C. S. Lewis say? What did Moody say? 586 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: What did you know? So you can say that in logos. 587 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 3: Now notice this, and you'll appreciate this because you've done 588 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: a lot of you know, research. Notice what it says 589 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: the search was constrained, so it gave me my answer, 590 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 3: But it said the search was only from Augustine's writings, 591 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 3: But would you like me to search everything? So when 592 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 3: I say yes to that, prompting James, it's now still 593 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 3: what Augustine said, but what scholars say. 594 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: Augustine said the interpretations of Augustine. 595 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 3: Which is so now I went from primary to secondary 596 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: sources just by saying yes. Okay. Now, notice James, at 597 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 3: the bottom of every section there is a little copy button, 598 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: So each part of each of the conversation. If I 599 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 3: want to copy that, jump over. Let's say I'm leading 600 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: my Men's Bible study and I've got some things i 601 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 3: want to share. I hit paste and everything is cited 602 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: so people watching can't see what just happened. But if 603 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 3: there is any students or writers right now that saw 604 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 3: what I just did. The hallelujahs went up, because that 605 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 3: is amazing that logos will cite everything in any citation style. 606 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: Tarabian sbl MLA eight have all the citation styles, so 607 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 3: huge feature. Now a couple of things left and study assistant. 608 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 3: I want you to notice, James the copy all button, 609 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: because maybe I want the entirety of my conversation copied 610 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 3: over to maybe I'm teaching a Bible study or something. 611 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: I want you to also notice recent okay, recent shows 612 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 3: you all the conversations that you're having, okay, which means 613 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 3: what I can go back in and ask more and 614 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 3: continue that conversation, make it deeper, make it bigger, and 615 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 3: so on. So let me just show you, you know, 616 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: the practical use. You know, we've gotten a little geeky 617 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: with you know, some doctrinal study and again you could say, 618 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: what is this Hebrew word in this passage? And but 619 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 3: I want to show everybody how practical this is for life. 620 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: Meaning I've got some preteens. Again, I've already said I've 621 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 3: got a ton of kids, and one of my sons 622 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: asked me not too long ago, you know, Dad, why 623 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 3: does guy that allows suffering? So I just went in 624 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 3: here and said, how do I talk to my preteens 625 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 3: on why God allows suffering? I love. The beginning of 626 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: the answer was Jesus experience suffering, so we have a 627 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 3: God that knows it, right, that suffered, so great place 628 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 3: to start this conversation. But another reason is suffering is 629 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: because we can hurt people. Right. Here's another point that 630 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: logo said is that we grow through suffering and difficulty, right, 631 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: and then it helps us give comfort. So this is 632 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 3: a really good simple answer. And again, if I want more, 633 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 3: I would simply say, give me more. But then I said, 634 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 3: what are examples in the Bible, Because that's what I'm 635 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: always trying to do with my kids, is, Hey, where's 636 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: this in scripture? Give me examples in the Bible where 637 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 3: God uses suffering in someone's life for good? And I 638 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 3: got Paul and job. And again, if I wanted more, 639 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 3: just say more. But I'm fine with that. But look 640 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 3: what I did, James. I then said, summarize this into 641 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 3: three points for me to lead my family in a 642 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: Bible study. Okay, Now again I could have gone ten 643 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: layers deeper than this, right, And then said summarize all 644 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 3: of this. But I want you to notice James great outline. 645 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 3: God transforms evil into ultimate good, Suffering develops character and 646 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 3: suffering it help equips us to help others. Notice it 647 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 3: didn't write the lesson. So here's the big idea. We 648 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 3: have one hundred coders at Logos Okay that are working 649 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 3: on this every day, making it better, adding new features. 650 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: But you know what they hard coded into logos AI. 651 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: It will never write your paper, it will never write 652 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: your sermon, it will never write your Bible study? Can 653 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: I get an amen? So we've hard coded our AI 654 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 3: to say if someone dare James goes in and says, hey, 655 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 3: I golfed too much this week and I'm leading my 656 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 3: men Bible study Thursday night, Logos, can you just write 657 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 3: my Bible study? You know what it'll say, No, I 658 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 3: love that about logos Now it'll come back with promptings. 659 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 3: It'll say, Nope, not going to do it, but I'll help, 660 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 3: Like would you like an outline? Would do you want 661 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 3: to do some key Greek words studies from the text? 662 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: Right? 663 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 3: But never will it write your Bible study? Now, lastly, 664 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 3: I want to show you this, especially if we have 665 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: any Baptist watching right, you can actually say this, James, 666 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 3: can you alliterate these because I know what teenagers are precheams. 667 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 3: They learned with alliteration. So I just said, can you 668 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 3: alliterate these points? And logos came back with God's good 669 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 3: from evil, suffering shapes soul, and comfort connects to communities. 670 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: So if you want so, that's the power of this tool, right. 671 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 3: It's going to help moms and dads lead their kids 672 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 3: and answer those tough apologetic questions, which I love, right. 673 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 3: I love it when my kids ask me a tough 674 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 3: theological question. But now I have the confidence, even on 675 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 3: my phone, to say, hey, I'll get you an answer 676 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 3: on that right now. The last thing I wanted to 677 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 3: show James is I'm going to go to recent I 678 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 3: might have shared this with you when we met, maybe 679 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 3: a month ago, but I noticed pretty recently that there's 680 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: no exorcisms in the Gospel of John. And this kind 681 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: of blew me away because think about the ministry of Jesus. 682 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 3: He was always dealing with Satan and casting out and 683 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 3: it was a big but missing from John. So I asked, 684 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 3: why are there no exorcisms in the Gospel of John? Now? 685 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: What's great about this answer is amazing insight into John's 686 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 3: view of things. But it's a third paragraph that just 687 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 3: blew me away. And it's this line right here. In 688 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 3: John's worldview, Jesus is presented as equal with God, making 689 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 3: Satan and his a gents already defeated foes who need 690 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: not appear in the narrative, James, what John's basically saying 691 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: is Satan, I know what happens. Jesus is king. You're defeated. 692 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna waste ink on you. I mean, 693 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 3: that is the ultimate backslap. I love that, like I 694 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 3: wanted to share that with my men's Bible study. So 695 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 3: here's the new feature, James. Notice the copy link button. Okay, now, 696 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 3: actually text me right now just so that it's the 697 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 3: top of my messenger or whatever. But basically, uh, if 698 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 3: if I can get to your text, because I've got 699 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 3: my messenger open up another, uh send me a little text. 700 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 3: So it's the top of my crazy messages inbox here 701 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna text you. There we go. There, I 702 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 3: heard the ding. So you just saw me hit copy 703 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 3: link on my Mac. I just sent you something which 704 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 3: was the copy link. I want you to click the 705 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 3: link that I just sent you to your phone and 706 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 3: tell everybody what is now on your mobile device. 707 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have the entire study Assistant why 708 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 2: John's Gospel. 709 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 3: So the whole thing that I just did on screen 710 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 3: you now have and James, it's all sighted, it's all sited. Yeah, 711 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 3: so listen for anybody watching that is you know you're 712 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 3: discipling somebody, you're discipling your families, Maybe you're having a 713 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 3: good conversation, or maybe you're having a tough conversation with 714 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 3: somebody and you want to give them a biblical perspective 715 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 3: on this. You literally build out the conversation and study assistant, 716 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 3: hit copy link and send it to them. Now here's 717 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 3: the thing. If they have logos, it'll loaded into their 718 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 3: study Assistant, which means what they can continue the conversation, 719 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 3: go further with it. But here's the thing. If if 720 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 3: I sent that, James to somebody that doesn't have logos, 721 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 3: that whole thing still loads up on their phone, the 722 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 3: whole conversation all cited. So I love. So I've been 723 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 3: in live streams James, where we've gotten to a little 724 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 3: theological debate, like some random that came in with, you know, 725 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 3: and I went into study assistant and I nailed it 726 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 3: with some scholarship. And I'll just post that in the 727 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 3: comments and say, hey, here here is the here's the 728 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: right view on that, if you will, And this is 729 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 3: really what the Greek says, not that I don't know 730 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 3: where you got that, right. I love this new feature 731 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 3: because of its implication for discipleship. 732 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,959 Speaker 1: It's really great. 733 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 2: I mean, just looking at this, it's like all the 734 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 2: right sources you'd want to do. Like you said, you 735 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: could go fifteen layers deeper. Question for you, Like when 736 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 2: you're doing this and you get down to that point 737 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 2: where you say, hey, can you summarize a you know, 738 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: an outline for my family so I could teach them 739 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 2: about suffering? Do you have to go through all the 740 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 2: other prompts to get to that or did somebody just 741 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 2: come in and sort of ask that last question and 742 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 2: get what you got? 743 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? So the more you layer in a conversation, you're 744 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 3: you're kind of you're bringing more to the table, right, ye? 745 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 3: So you could someone could have just right out the 746 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: gates say hey, how do I talk to my kids 747 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 3: about suffering? Right? But I did want to ask give 748 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 3: me examples in the Bible, because I want my kids 749 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,720 Speaker 3: to go to scripture as much as possible. Right, But yes, 750 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 3: you literally can just real quickly say and listen, that's 751 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 3: happened to me when the Mormons show up at my 752 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 3: house or the Jehovah witness And I'm like, okay, you 753 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 3: know I did go to Seton, but I really want 754 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 3: to I want to nail that thing you just said, 755 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 3: because that's not right. I can go right into study 756 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 3: assistant with exactly the question I want right now. This 757 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 3: is where that all books comes into play. Let's say 758 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 3: somebody watching. Actually this happened to me recently. I've spoken Dallas. 759 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 3: I had a young woman come up to me and 760 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 3: she said, Scott, this is this is this is so 761 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 3: providential because I've been having Mormons come to my house 762 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 3: a lot, and I feel a little threatened because I 763 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 3: don't know my stuff enough. I think she's a relatively 764 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 3: new Christian, but she wants to keep the engagement going. 765 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 3: She she's glad they're showing up, you know. And so 766 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 3: she's like, oh, I can't wait for the next door knock, right, 767 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 3: I can't wait for them to show. But here's I 768 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 3: told her this I think she went with the pro level, 769 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 3: which is the middle. And again we're going to talk 770 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: about the three versions of logos. But I said, you know, 771 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 3: on a question like that, that's very specific, and there 772 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 3: will be in each version of logos, there'll be some 773 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,760 Speaker 3: apologetics for that. But this might be where you flip 774 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 3: the switch to all books so that you can really 775 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 3: broaden what you're pulling from, you know. Yeah, And she said, oh, well, 776 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 3: that's a good point, because you know that that's kind 777 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 3: of a nuanced study or you know, you're you're you're 778 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 3: looking at theology, but from from a totally different angle, 779 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 3: right apologetically. So that's where I would flip it to 780 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 3: all books and open up the floodgates, if you will, 781 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 3: on all the apologetic material that might be available to you. 782 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 783 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 3: Okay, so that is study assistant. The thing will a 784 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 3: couple of things will close with. But factbook is where 785 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 3: I go for study. Okay, So study assistant is where 786 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 3: I go. I need some help build my Men's Bible study. 787 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 3: I want to look at this theological idea. I'm I 788 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 3: want to look at this Greek word. I mean, this 789 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 3: is where I specifically go with my questions. But factbook 790 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 3: is where I go study. Now, notice I'm here. I 791 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 3: was doing a little study in Ephesians chapter two. But 792 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 3: you can also type in a topic, so you could 793 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 3: type resurrection manuscripts, like tell me more about Dead Sea Scroll. 794 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 3: I mean, whatever you want to know about, type it 795 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 3: in fact book. Now, I'll tell everybody this was not preempted. 796 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 3: I didn't talk to you before. But give me a passage, 797 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 3: James that maybe you're in personally, or or you're getting 798 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 3: ready to go teach somewhere and you just happen to 799 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 3: be in. Give me a chapter older New Testament. 800 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 2: Well, I'll say that the one I always go to 801 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 2: is my go to passage Genesis six four and five. 802 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 3: Okay, now you could do Genesis six four five, and 803 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 3: you could you could do John three sixteen. But I 804 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 3: always type the book and the chapter and let this 805 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 3: drop down because sometimes I don't know where really does 806 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 3: this start and stop the theme of it right, as 807 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,959 Speaker 3: a matter of fact, using James, I'm sorry, using John 808 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 3: three sixteen as an example. If somebody wanted to study 809 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 3: Jesus and Nicodemus, well that starts in chapter two, right, 810 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 3: So if you don't know that, you're missing a good 811 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 3: chunk if that's what you want to study. Oh, I 812 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 3: could do four or five. But is there and you 813 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 3: know this we call this a perricopy, But is there 814 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 3: a perricopy here that we see that you would want 815 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 3: to hone in on. 816 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 2: You could do you know, you could do Genesis one, six, 817 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: one through probably eight, the increasing corruption on like that exactly, 818 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 2: just one of those really complicated passages. 819 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 3: So I'm going to select that. And so here's the 820 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 3: thing I would say, James, The greatest barrier to Bible 821 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 3: study for most is they don't know the right questions 822 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 3: to ask the text, right. So one of the skills 823 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 3: that you've honed over the years and getting your doctorate 824 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 3: and doing this and do that is is you you 825 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 3: know how to engage with the text to the level 826 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 3: that a lot of people don't, right. So when you 827 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 3: look at a text, you've got your exegetical glasses, your 828 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 3: historical glasses, your cultural glasses, and so most people don't 829 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 3: know how to do that right. And so what Logos 830 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 3: just did in a second, So for those again just 831 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 3: hearing and not seeing, I typed in the passage that 832 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 3: James gave me, and in one second, what Logos did 833 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 3: on the screen as I scroll, is probably thirty to 834 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 3: forty hours worth of biblical research already done. We're talking 835 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 3: journals and Sermont archives and passages and commentaries. So remember, James, 836 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 3: you know the excuse we try to give the Lord. 837 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 3: I don't have enough time. No, no, no more. We 838 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 3: literally cannot do that if you have logos. But there's 839 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 3: your commentaries, now, James, what's the average price of a 840 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 3: commentary these days? 841 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: Right? 842 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 3: They're like the most expensive. 843 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: Books you can buy, you know, easy easy. 844 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 3: Right, and romans could be two three volumes, right xer so, 845 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 3: so they're very expensive. Logos comes with hundreds of commentaries. 846 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 3: So notice that I've got Kenneth Matthews from New American Commentary. 847 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 3: I've got Derek Kidner right, So I love Derek kid 848 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 3: and especially for the Psalms out of Tyndale. So all 849 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 3: I had to do is click the link and I'm 850 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 3: now in the Genesis volume commentary for Tyndale Derek Kidner. Now, 851 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,760 Speaker 3: if you have the time to read all this insight, 852 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 3: that's great, But sometimes I'm a little busy, James, and 853 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 3: I don't have time right now to read thirty pages 854 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 3: of Derek Kidner being brilliant. Right, So look at what 855 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 3: I've got right here. Summarize. There's a button on the 856 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 3: screen so I could click summarize now to what you said. 857 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 3: I don't want anybody thinking, oh, now I don't need 858 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 3: to read the commentary. No, no, no, no, that's not why 859 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,280 Speaker 3: we did this. Basically, when I go into a Christian 860 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 3: bookstore and there's a book that interests me, what do 861 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 3: I read? I read the back. I read the back 862 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 3: of the book because what does it do. It summarizes 863 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 3: the content of the book, and I make my decision James, 864 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 3: on whether I'm going to buy this book or not. 865 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 3: A lot of times buy those summaries, right, that's what 866 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 3: we're doing. So what this enables you to do is, look, 867 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to do this for like three different commentaries 868 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 3: and logos, just summarize the kind of the theological view 869 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 3: of that scholar. Right. Which is great because for the 870 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 3: time it used to take me to read two pages 871 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,760 Speaker 3: out of a commentary, I could summarize four or five 872 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 3: and then decide, oh, that's the angle that I want 873 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 3: to tackle the text with. Right, So that's that's huge. 874 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 2: Well, if I can say, just for people who may 875 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: be sitting back thinking like this seems crazy to do. 876 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you just read the whole thing? I would say, 877 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 2: we do this with journal articles all the time. There's 878 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 2: usually an abstract, and you read the abstract and you 879 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 2: decide is this is sort of information you're looking for? 880 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 2: We always use these kind of shortcuts. You're just building 881 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 2: a system that gives us shortcuts that we didn't have previously, right, 882 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 2: And so, I mean, I think just to say that, 883 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 2: so the people aren't feeling like, oh, you're just building 884 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 2: shortcuts all over the place. 885 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: Not really, This is. 886 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 2: How I would do it if I were if I 887 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 2: were searching a journal article, I don't usually have the 888 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 2: option to do it with the commentary, and so this is. 889 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 1: A great option. 890 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And even Bible dictionaries. You know, sometimes 891 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 3: I'm studying Let's use the example of the Trinity, and 892 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 3: obviously I can go to ten Bible dictionaries on the 893 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 3: Trinity with this feature and logos. If I went to 894 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 3: factbook with Trinity, it would line up all my Bible 895 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 3: dictionaries and then I can summarize ten of them and go, oh, 896 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 3: that one, that's the one I really want to read 897 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 3: right now, right that's right. Again, if you have the 898 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 3: time later to read all ten, have at it. I 899 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 3: usually don't have time to read ten Bible Dictionary articles 900 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 3: on Trinity. That's right, all right, all your Bibles lined 901 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 3: up as the next section. So I like the ESV. 902 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 3: But maybe someone listening wants new King, James, new living. 903 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 3: There we go. But this is the goal. This is 904 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,240 Speaker 3: new to factbook, a new section called questions to ask 905 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 3: And so basically what we've done is applied those lenses 906 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 3: to the text. So look what it did for Genesis 907 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 3: one through eight? Who are the sons of God? Does 908 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 3: God truly regret? You know? This is you know, I've 909 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,919 Speaker 3: had people, you know, think they got me on this one, right, 910 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 3: you know, No, No, what is the Nephilum? So what's 911 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 3: awesome about this, James, is if I went through these 912 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,240 Speaker 3: questions like what is the theological significance of the nephilum? 913 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 3: Or how about what ancient Near Eastern myths? I mean, 914 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 3: that is amazing questions to ask the text? 915 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's great. 916 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 3: And I use this example. I wasn't raising a Christian home. 917 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 3: I got saved on a Sunday. Next Monday, I was 918 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 3: at a bookstore buying a Bible. I didn't know this 919 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 3: Christian books stores names. I went to like just a 920 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 3: secular whatever, and they had a couple of Bibles. I 921 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 3: bought my first Bible. I didn't know where to start 922 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 3: because I never read the Bible. And someone wisely said, hey, 923 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 3: I would live in the Gospel of John, Like, just 924 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,919 Speaker 3: pick a gospel. I recommend John. So that's what I did. 925 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 3: I started in John one one. Now I want everybody 926 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 3: to think about the amount of theology that's in the 927 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,720 Speaker 3: first fifteen to sixteen past and listen, James, I missed 928 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 3: all of it. I didn't know that was in there. 929 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,919 Speaker 3: Why I didn't do this, I didn't know the right 930 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 3: questions to ask the text. So here's what you do. 931 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 3: If you want to know what are the Nephlum? Who 932 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 3: are the sons of God in Genesis City? You just 933 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 3: click the arrow next to the question that you're like, oh, 934 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 3: give me more of that logos. Now, is doing the 935 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 3: research guarded right, It's not pulling any random craziness off 936 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 3: the internet. It's going the scholarship right. And there's views 937 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 3: of interpretation right. So there's the angelic interpretation, there's an 938 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 3: alternative interpretation, you know, it pulled in a little grudam, 939 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 3: little William Cook, little utly, but this is this is great. 940 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 3: Now here's the thing. This is kind of a hot 941 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 3: topic with a lot of people getting into the Nephelom 942 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 3: and the sons of You know, I want to I 943 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 3: want to do. 944 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: That all day with it, more than I really want to. 945 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 3: So yeah, right right, Notice though, at the bottom of 946 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 3: my answer, so again, Logos is going to be gonna 947 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,280 Speaker 3: give me a good quick synopsis scholarship cited. But notice 948 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 3: that button, James. If I clicked that, it loads the 949 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:32,720 Speaker 3: question into my study assistant for me to go further, 950 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 3: so I can say something like, what did Heiser say? Right? 951 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 3: And let me make sure I spelled Mike's names right? 952 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 3: What did Heiser say? And again, this is how specific 953 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 3: I could be. Obviously, doctor Michael Heiser wrote a lot 954 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 3: about this. Logos has got a ton of books by 955 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 3: doctor Michael Heiser, and here we go. Heiser identify sons 956 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 3: of God as angelic beings who co cohabited with human wit. 957 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 3: So specifically, now I'm going to look at that it's 958 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 3: only citing three books of doctor Michael Heiser, because that's 959 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 3: what I asked But the beauty of this, James, is 960 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 3: the fact that now I'm not scared of numbers, right, 961 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 3: Like those books are the Bible that are like I 962 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 3: wouldn't even know how to study that, right, Leviticus, You 963 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 3: know what is the book of the Bible where most 964 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 3: people's Bible reading plan falls off right when they hit Leviticus. Right. 965 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 3: So that's the power of fact book is the fact 966 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 3: that I can go there with a text, I can 967 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,760 Speaker 3: go there with a topic, and the amount of research. 968 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 3: Again as I scroll again. You talked about theological journals. 969 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 3: Logos brings me those it brought in sermons. I'm a 970 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 3: massive Tim Keller fan, so I clicked that little button there, 971 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 3: and I'm discovering that Keller preached a message back in 972 00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 3: two thousand on this text. There it is right, and 973 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 3: I can go even further. Right, there's a whole section 974 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 3: here called dig Deeper if I want to go even 975 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,280 Speaker 3: further with this. But the big idea is it's that easy. 976 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 3: You just type the text you want to study, and 977 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 3: Logos does thirty forty fifty hours worth of Biblical research 978 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 3: for you. Now, let me know how much time we've 979 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 3: got left. Those are the two main tools I wanted 980 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 3: to show we're study assistant when I have questions or 981 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 3: direction help. You know, I'm writing a Bible, study a 982 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 3: blog post or what have you. And then factbook is 983 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 3: where I go study a text or a topic. 984 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 2: We probably got about ten minutes left, so and we 985 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 2: want to make sure we get to the level take 986 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 2: that kind of good stuff. So yeah, So the other thing. 987 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 3: That logos does and largely do because and you know this, 988 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 3: one of the radical shifts in education today is is 989 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,240 Speaker 3: we learn visually. So you know, the use of charts 990 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 3: and graphics. I mean, look at a newspaper and I 991 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 3: might say that somebody and somebody's like, newspaper. What's that? 992 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 3: But a newspaper today compared to ten years ago. The 993 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 3: radical shift is visual, right, visualizing with charts and graphs 994 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 3: and things like that. So we're trying to do that 995 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 3: in logos as well for the Bible because it helps 996 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 3: us learn. So there's a thing in logos you just 997 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 3: go to tools here and you scroll down to the bottom, 998 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 3: and it's called interactive media. Okay, so just go here 999 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 3: later and there's hundreds of these. I'm going to show 1000 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 3: you two or three for sake of time, but what 1001 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 3: these do is visualize your studies. So the first one 1002 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 3: we're looking at here is called the Bible books explore, 1003 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 3: and notice on the screen, I see all the books 1004 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 3: of the Bible, and there's some colors happening. So I 1005 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 3: noticed Genesis is mainly blue. I see Leviticus is kind 1006 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 3: of split between green and yellow. And notice up here, James, 1007 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 3: that's why here's it's telling me. Blue is mainly narrative. 1008 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 3: Leviticus is kind of procedural behavioral. So the color is 1009 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 3: kind of giving you know, the emphasis, if you will, 1010 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 3: are the literary emphasis of the book? Right now, Notice 1011 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 3: I can put it in the order of the Hebrew canon, 1012 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 3: the order of what books have the most words. That 1013 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 3: would be Jeremiah chapters. There's some So I can look 1014 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 3: at the books of the Bible in any lens or view. 1015 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 3: But let me just put them back in the way 1016 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 3: that we're used to Genesis exous, leviticuts. So there we go. 1017 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 3: Now again, notice Genesis is primarily blue. But if I 1018 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 3: float on it, there's my snapshot. So it's ninety one 1019 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 3: percent narrative. Now that's great, But what if I really 1020 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 3: wanted a better overview of a particular book of the Bible. 1021 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 3: And you mentioned Genesis, so I want a better overview 1022 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 3: of Genesis. So this is where I click it. Now, 1023 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 3: when I click it, notice what instantly shows on the screen. 1024 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 3: Here are my details. Moses wrote it, the languages it 1025 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 3: was written in, the BIB local eras that are encompassing 1026 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 3: that book, right, the key people, the key places, the 1027 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 3: key things. Now, notice James, the things that are in blue. 1028 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 3: So notice key places. You know I need to know 1029 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 3: about Eden and Canaan and Babylon. Those are the kind 1030 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,439 Speaker 3: of the big ones there. But let's say I don't 1031 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 3: really know much about let's say Babylon. Okay, notice it's 1032 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 3: in blue. Now I can float and get a brief 1033 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 3: definition on what that is. And this is great because 1034 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 3: sometimes you know, I forget who Jfeth is or you know, 1035 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 3: the people of Yeah, so I love that. But watch this. 1036 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 3: If I really want to dig deeper into a person, 1037 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 3: a place, a thing, a biblical era, whatever you see 1038 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 3: on the screen, click it and logos again. In fact, 1039 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 3: book just did what literally just did about ten hours 1040 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 3: worth of amazing study on Babylon with the questions right, 1041 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 3: the questions asked, there's my media, my maps, I get 1042 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 3: a picture of Tower Babbel, I get key passages. There's 1043 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 3: my Greek, my Hebrew pronounce so notice the speaker. It'll 1044 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 3: pronounce your Greek for you properly. It'll pronounce your Hebrew 1045 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 3: for you properly. But again the point I'm look at 1046 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 3: all this. Look look what it did in one second. 1047 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 3: I mean that that's unbelievable. And all I did, James, 1048 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 3: was click on the word babblin. That's it, right, yeah, 1049 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Now here's where it gets good timeline. That little button 1050 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 3: there will show me the age of the particular books 1051 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 3: of the Bible, right, so so someone might be learning 1052 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 3: for the first time right now, James, that Job is 1053 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 3: actually the oldest book. People assume Genesis first book got 1054 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 3: to be the old No, Job is the oldest book 1055 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 3: in the canon. But this is the goal. Notice the 1056 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 3: button here that says tertext. So by clicking that, what 1057 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 3: we're looking at now is how the Old New Testament 1058 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 3: talk to each other. So notice there's some connections here 1059 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 3: happening Old New Testament. So if I float on Romans, 1060 01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 3: what we're now seeing are the Old Testament book cited 1061 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 3: in Romans. Okay, if I come here to Psalms, or 1062 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Isaiah in an Old Testament book. Now what we're seeing 1063 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 3: is Psalms is cited in these New Testament books. So 1064 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 3: this is so good because I'll be honest, if I'm 1065 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 3: in a New Testament book or you're in Genesis, you're 1066 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 3: probably not thinking about the New Testament as much as 1067 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 3: you should be, right because I'm in the Old Testament. 1068 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 3: So I love this because the more we connect those dots, 1069 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 3: absolutely the better study you're going to get when you're 1070 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 3: linking all all the books of the Bible. Now here's 1071 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 3: what you can also do. Notice this was just me 1072 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 3: floating to see the interaction. But if I click, so 1073 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 3: I'm now going to click on the slice here that 1074 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 3: says Psalms. And now what we see is the actual passages. 1075 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 3: So this is where Psalms is cited in the New Testament. 1076 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 3: So quite linkage. There's a lot of verses there. Yeah, yeah, okay, 1077 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 3: so that's the Bible book. Looks for. Another one that's 1078 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 3: great is we'll take books of the Bible. We did 1079 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 3: this with the Book of Psalms, where you know, here's 1080 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 3: all the Psalms lined up. If I was to pick 1081 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 3: my favorite, probably Psalm twenty three and look at how 1082 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 3: geeky you can get. This is what it would look 1083 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 3: like in my leatherbound Bible that I have my morning 1084 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 3: time with. And you know, but one click, there's the Hebrew, 1085 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 3: next two Psalm verse one, two, three, four, five, there's 1086 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:30,160 Speaker 3: the parallelism instantly, and even the structure. So this is 1087 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 3: the level and depth at which you can dig into 1088 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 3: the Psalms. But notice again in the corner, I've got 1089 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 3: some buttons. By book shows me the five books of 1090 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 3: the Psalms. So there's structured in five books. And notice 1091 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 3: some one nineteen's the biggest dot, So that's telling us 1092 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 3: what it's the biggest chapter in Psalms author who wrote what? 1093 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 3: So with one click, I see what Moses wrote? What's anonymous? 1094 01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 3: Solomon David? So on structure, we don't have time. I'm 1095 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 3: for this, but this is awesome to see the literary 1096 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 3: devices and and and uh used in some of the Psalms. 1097 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 3: But I want to stop here at genre, because what 1098 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 3: do we see right now instantly on the screen is 1099 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 3: the biggest genre or theme running through Psalms is lament 1100 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 3: and grief and sorrow. And this is why I love Psalms. 1101 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 3: You know, if I'm going through something tough, James, I 1102 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 3: run to the Book of Psalms. Why, I find great 1103 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 3: comfort in the honesty of the writer. Right. You know, 1104 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 3: not too long ago I did a live stream with 1105 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 3: Anti right actually, and he said he feels the church 1106 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:47,919 Speaker 3: has lost the art of lament, meaning we're we're real 1107 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 3: quick with the right theological answer and and but we 1108 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 3: we we've lost the art of putting our arm around 1109 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 3: a person and weeping with those who weep, and and 1110 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 3: just being silent. Right. And I love the fact that 1111 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 3: we see here in the Book of Psalms that was 1112 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 3: this is an emphasis in the Book of Psalms, right, 1113 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 3: So just little dots floating around gives me some real 1114 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 3: perspective on things that are happening in the Psalms. Now, 1115 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 3: the last one I'll show, and I've not yet been 1116 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 3: and you've probably been numerous times. I've not been to 1117 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 3: the Holy Land, but you can and logo. So look 1118 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 3: at what we're seeing here on the screen. We're seeing 1119 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 3: Jerusalem ephesis. So it's not just the Holy Land, it's 1120 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 3: you know, the Middle East and Turkey and so on. 1121 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 3: But you get to go where you want to go. 1122 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to click here on the little picture of Jerusalem, 1123 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 3: and notice what happened. For one, it gives me my definition, 1124 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 3: so all the basics that I need to know about 1125 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 3: Herod and the Jebusites and so on and again everything 1126 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 3: clicks to factbooks. So if I have no idea what 1127 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 3: a Jebusite is, well you either float or click and 1128 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 3: there's all your information. But look what we did for you. 1129 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 3: This is a satellite image right now of Jerusalem. But 1130 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 3: if you take the bar here scroll it across the screen, 1131 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 3: we give you kind of an artist render rendering of 1132 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 3: what Jerusalem might have looked like at the time. But 1133 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 3: I love this because it just adds another layer of 1134 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 3: depth and insight into my studies. And I'll close with 1135 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 3: this as we tell everybody how do I get my 1136 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 3: free sixty days? I need to warn everyone, James that 1137 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 3: downloads logos for the first time, You're gonna lose some sleep. Okay, 1138 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 3: it will be one o'clock in them, but listen, James, 1139 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 3: wouldn't it be amazing to lose track of an hour, 1140 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 3: two three hours because you're digging and clicking and learning. 1141 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 3: And I mean, that's the kind of tool we want 1142 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 3: to create. It logos to where Bible study is not 1143 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 3: the broccoli on the TV dinner. You know, it's the 1144 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,400 Speaker 3: dessert and it's the meat. I mean, it has nutrition 1145 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 3: and BROCCOLI's part of it. But I'm just saying, we 1146 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 3: want to create a tool that makes Bible study addictive. 1147 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 3: Like wouldn't it be great if we binged the Bible? 1148 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 3: You know, not a series, and I'm not against that. 1149 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 3: My wife and I right now we're binging alone. That's 1150 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 3: kind of our show. But wouldn't it be great to 1151 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 3: binge the Bible? Right? Like? Can't get enough of this thing? 1152 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 3: So that's kind of Logos in a nutshell. But let 1153 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 3: me close with the offer, and we did all this, 1154 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 3: so here we go. All they need to do is 1155 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 3: go to logos dot com, Forward slash Thinking Christian, or 1156 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 3: they can scan the QR code when they go to 1157 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 3: the page and it's live. Now. These are the three options. 1158 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 3: Premium fantastic, but I highly recommend pro And here's the 1159 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 3: reason why. Notice James, the amount of books that you 1160 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 3: have access to study assistant and for fact book, because 1161 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 3: again we're not connecting to the internet. So the more 1162 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 3: books you have to pull from, the better the answer, 1163 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 3: the more insight. So four thousand books in premium. That's phenomenal. Right, 1164 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 3: that's a big library, but pro doubles the amount of 1165 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,560 Speaker 3: books you have access to. And at the pro level 1166 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,400 Speaker 3: you can do Greek and Hebrew study. So if you're 1167 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 3: in Genesis you want to dig into the Hebrew text, 1168 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 3: that's what's also added are your Greek Hebrew dictionaries, your 1169 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 3: heat Greek Hebrew text airmake as well. And then max 1170 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 3: is just the uber geeky. I think that's what you've got, James, 1171 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 3: But that's a whole level. You know, this is where 1172 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 3: your ancient languages come in, Coptic, Syriac, you Garritic, and 1173 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,479 Speaker 3: it does add more books. So notice again we add 1174 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,760 Speaker 3: another twenty five dollars. So all people need to do 1175 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 3: is either go to the website logus dot com, Forward 1176 01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 3: Slash Thinking Christian, scan the QR code. But pay attention 1177 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 3: to the deadline. This is just a two week offer 1178 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 3: from the release of this podcast. Okay, so Wednesday, September eighth, 1179 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,280 Speaker 3: at eleven fifty nine, almost midnight, that website goes away 1180 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 3: with the free sixty days. So this is a special 1181 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:22,719 Speaker 3: offer for your audience. I want to say, mobiles amazing. 1182 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 3: Almost everything that we did today is accessible on your iPhone, 1183 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 3: Android tablet, what have you. Yeah, let me just close 1184 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 3: with this. And when I do this James at a conference, 1185 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,560 Speaker 3: people won't look at me, you know, and I listen this. 1186 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,640 Speaker 3: I had, I had my team do this for me. 1187 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 3: I just told them here's what I'm subscribing to. But 1188 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 3: for those listening, and what we're looking at on the 1189 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 3: screen is Scott subscriptions like Hulu, ESPN and listen. I 1190 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,200 Speaker 3: don't need six ways to watch a movie. I just don't, right, 1191 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 3: get rid of something. And you can have logos again, 1192 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 3: as low as ten dollars a month, you can have 1193 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 3: this tool and it will radically enhance the way you 1194 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,599 Speaker 3: study scripture. Love to close with this quote, Dan Story said, 1195 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,640 Speaker 3: the ultimate goal of apologetics is to bring unbelievers to 1196 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 3: the point where they must admit, even if only to themselves, 1197 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,519 Speaker 3: that if they reject Jesus Christ, they're not doing so 1198 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 3: for intellectual reasons. They're not. And that's the tool we want. 1199 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 3: We want to You know, my quarterback buddy, who will 1200 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 3: remain anonymous for now, has said I used to when 1201 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,679 Speaker 3: I got a question from a teammate, I would say 1202 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,600 Speaker 3: I'll have the answer next week, Like because he had logos, 1203 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 3: but he didn't have the AI yet. And now that 1204 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 3: this is mobile, he says, Now, he says, give me 1205 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,920 Speaker 3: the question right now, what is the question? And he's 1206 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 3: able to copy link and send him the answer like 1207 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:58,439 Speaker 3: literally within thirty seconds of that conversation. So I'll leave 1208 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,720 Speaker 3: this up if you want to close with any closing comments. 1209 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 3: But again, the deadline is Wednesday, September eighth. There's the 1210 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,680 Speaker 3: QR code and there's the URL. It's thinking, Christian, I 1211 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,760 Speaker 3: just noticed that. There we go, go. 1212 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 1: Thinking, Christian, there we go. There you go? 1213 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 3: Got it? Fixed it all right? 1214 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 2: No, Scott, I mean I really appreciate this. We do 1215 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 2: a lot of conversations about AI. I'm just finishing up 1216 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 2: a book on digital discernment with IVP, and I think 1217 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 2: a lot of times when people listen to the incorporation 1218 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 2: of AI into a system like logos, they get a 1219 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 2: little iffy on it. And I would just sit back 1220 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,439 Speaker 2: and say, I don't actually think what you all have 1221 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,880 Speaker 2: done is that ify at all. I think it's really great. 1222 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 2: I think it does really do what you said it did. 1223 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 2: It shortcuts a lot of the research that you would 1224 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:50,919 Speaker 2: ordinarily have to put in just like finding resources, spending 1225 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 2: time getting the right commentaries, you know that part of 1226 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 2: the process. 1227 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 1: As as much fun as I have with. 1228 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 2: It, it does take a lot lot of time and 1229 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 2: there are moments where I just need the information more quickly. 1230 01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 2: And so where you guys have done a really great 1231 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 2: job I think is putting quality resources in the hands 1232 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 2: of people, giving them access to those quality resources, and 1233 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,439 Speaker 2: access not just from a speed perspective, but from a 1234 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 2: what question should I ask? And how can I access 1235 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 2: more of that information? I think it's great stuff and 1236 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 2: would just highly recommend that listeners go to logus dot 1237 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 2: com backslash or forward slash thinking Christian. We'll put that 1238 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,640 Speaker 2: in the show notes with the time you know the 1239 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,559 Speaker 2: time to release on it, so if you miss that deadline, 1240 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 2: don't go to the website and expect to get the 1241 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 2: free copy. But we'll have that in the listener notes 1242 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,680 Speaker 2: so you'll know where to go exactly. And this KEW 1243 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,840 Speaker 2: guard code obviously up on the screen. You can just 1244 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 2: click on it and you know, snap with your camera 1245 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 2: and get it taken care of. 1246 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 1: But I just encourage you to go try it. It's 1247 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 1: been great. I've been working with the one you gave me, Scott, 1248 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 1: and it's awesome. So, I mean, I'm a fan and 1249 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 1: just to. 1250 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,800 Speaker 3: Get everybody excited, I was in a meeting last week 1251 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 3: and there's some enhancements coming to Study Assistant that are shocking. 1252 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,920 Speaker 3: I mean, it's absolutely I actually had somebody tell me 1253 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 3: last week I was at a conference that Scott if 1254 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 3: the only thing Logos did with Study Assistant, that's it, 1255 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 3: Like I clicked, that's the only thing to open up. 1256 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 3: It's my favorite thing right now for solid biblical studies. 1257 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 3: But what's coming unbelievable. So this is again one of 1258 01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 3: the advantages of subscription is just constant updates and you 1259 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,320 Speaker 3: get them instantly. It's just part of the subscription, right, 1260 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 3: so be prepared. I think mid September. Amazing new update 1261 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 3: coming to Study Assistant. 1262 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 2: Nice well, Scott, thanks for sharing it with us, Thanks 1263 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 2: for being here, and we'll close it out with this. 1264 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, get your free copy of August dot Com 1265 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,759 Speaker 2: forward slash Thinking Christian and outside of that, hopefully enjoyed 1266 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,719 Speaker 2: this again, Scott, thanks for being here, Thanks every prepared 1267 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,600 Speaker 2: for listening, and we'll catch on then next episode of 1268 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,240 Speaker 2: Thinking Christian. 1269 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Take care