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Speaker 2: All right, welcome everybody to the Charlie Kirk Show. It

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Speaker 2: is July twenty seventh, twenty twenty six. Honored to be

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Speaker 2: We've got Mark Halprin on at twelve thirty Eastern. We're

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Speaker 2: I want to begin the show, however, talking about DSA.

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Speaker 2: There was some revealing clips that came out over the

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Speaker 2: It is so important that you really internalize what he's

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Speaker 2: Marco is one of the most eloquent communicators when it

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, they want to abolish prisons, defund the Pentagon, abolish Ice,

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Speaker 2: Whatever ideology that is undergirding their entire policy platform is

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Speaker 9: We just don't see the point of the Senate. Historically,

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Speaker 10: Socialists winning Democratic primaries candidates from the far left, and

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Speaker 10: pool a majority have a favorable view of socialism. Death

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Speaker 2: Here, Democratic socialism is now the majority position within the

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Speaker 2: in a major way. Now, this is the offer of socialism.

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Speaker 2: I think may Or my Donnie presents the flowery language,

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Speaker 2: the promises of free stuff. We call it free stuff populism.

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Speaker 2: It was where this was gonna go inevitably, and Charlie

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Speaker 7: Here's how it will work.

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Speaker 8: Once a month, our five city run grocery stores will

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Speaker 2: All right, So he's gonna give you cheaper stuff, government

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Speaker 2: But he's still going to promise all these free goodies

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So they promise you free health care,

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Speaker 2: Very prescient from Charlie. We have two options ahead of US,

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Speaker 2: Up on the Megan Kelly Network. Mark, welcome back to

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the Democrat primaries. There was a poll

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Speaker 12: Know if you saw there's a New University New Hampshire

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Speaker 6: Poles are poles and a horse race as a horse race.

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Speaker 2: She had. She did the fake, the fake brag, the

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Speaker 12: Well, there's no way to make a calendar that doesn't

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Speaker 12: It's to get the strongest nominee who can win a

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Speaker 7: Right. So, in the olden days before you were born,

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Speaker 12: Everything after that moved around, but it did really matter

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Speaker 12: And again I believe this happened not to favor a candidate,

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Speaker 12: So ideally, if you're trying to be fair and equitable

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Speaker 12: And on paper it should defend benefit Kamala Harris, who

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Speaker 12: don't think that was the intention.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's interesting. I think it comes becomes

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Speaker 2: more interesting, Mark, because we are looking at a Democrat

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Speaker 2: party that is so divided right now between this rising

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Speaker 2: far left DSA cohort within its ranks, which really has

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Speaker 2: captured so much of the grassroots energy, and the more

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Speaker 2: establishment wing. I looked at the choice of South Carolina

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Speaker 2: that this is a favor. This is them trying to

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Speaker 2: stack the deck in favor of the more moderate wing

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Speaker 2: of the party to give them a leg up as

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Speaker 2: they head into that second third fourth primary. States that

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Speaker 2: that was my my guess you really.

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Speaker 12: Think that, I und Do you really think the DNC

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Speaker 12: wanted to have a more moderate candidate maybe pretty liberal group.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think for electability in a general presidential election. Yeah, probably,

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Speaker 2: But they did the same because they did the same

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Speaker 2: thing with Hillary and Bernie, and they they've done the

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Speaker 2: same thing against Bernie actually twice.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, they've left, they've moved left.

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Speaker 12: But but I'll say, if you wanted to stack it

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Speaker 12: for a more establishment candidate, I don't know that this

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Speaker 12: would have been the right pick. I think I think

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Speaker 12: Nevada or Michigan might have been a better first choice.

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Speaker 12: I really think you don't know what was in the

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Speaker 12: hearts of and the minds of every every member of

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Speaker 12: the committee, but I really do think the primary driver

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Speaker 12: here was they wanted They wanted a state that was interested, right,

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Speaker 12: not every state applies. They want to start with a

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Speaker 12: smaller state, a state that's got a four to television

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Speaker 12: advertising rates, a state that geographically you can get across

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Speaker 12: and campaign and where the playing fields somewhat level.

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Speaker 7: And you want you want to reward black.

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Speaker 12: Voters because they're such a big part of the Democratic constituency.

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Speaker 12: So you also run a risk if you pick a

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Speaker 12: state that's never gone early before, because if you go early,

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Speaker 12: there's a lot of pressure. And lastly, and I think

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Speaker 12: this is probably a big reason, it's reportedly a big

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Speaker 12: reason why they chose it over Nevada. You want a

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Speaker 12: state that can count quickly.

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Speaker 7: You can't.

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Speaker 12: You can't have the first primary take so long to

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Speaker 12: count the votes that the second primary is already happening, right,

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Speaker 12: And and we know from the last president Nevada Nevada

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Speaker 12: doesn't count very fast. You got to know in the

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Speaker 12: case these rapid fire primaries every week or so, you

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Speaker 12: got to know who won, like that night you can't

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Speaker 12: let it go, they can't let it hang into time.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's just I mean, so you're basically telling me

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Speaker 2: California is never going to get selected because.

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Speaker 12: That's part of the reasons. Yes, but it's also too big. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: but it's also too big. I mean, California have well

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Speaker 12: famous for not counting quickly. But think about the last

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Speaker 12: few presidential cycles when when we've been waiting for weeks

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Speaker 12: for debotity count.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, exactly, it's it's way too long. Good conversation

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Speaker 2: is about respect. It's how we create a space where

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Speaker 2: Charlie knew that Turning Point still knows that, and TikTok

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Speaker 2: has always strived to build the kind of place that

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Speaker 2: thrives on respectful connection, where curiosity fuels connection and we

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Speaker 2: can share what's on our minds and learn from each other.

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Speaker 2: When ideas meet respect, good things happen. On TikTok. You

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Speaker 2: can find a mechanic explaining the why behind a problem

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Speaker 2: most of us wouldn't even know how to name, or

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Speaker 2: a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers.

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Speaker 2: Viewers who listen discuss, and then they respond TikTok turns

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Speaker 2: connection into community through small acts of understanding. You can

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Speaker 2: feel it in the comments and the thank you from

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Speaker 2: a stra halfway across the world. TikTok is a place

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Speaker 2: where respect opens the door for discussion, and discussion helps

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Speaker 2: us build something real. Mark, you went viral for this clip,

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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna play the clip and then we'll go

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Speaker 2: from there. This is, of course on JD. We had

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Speaker 2: a whole long conversation about this last week. A lot

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Speaker 2: of people clipped up our show as well. It seems

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Speaker 2: like JD is the proxy right now.

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Speaker 12: It's not to but what we're seeing now with people

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Speaker 12: lashing out of Jdvent it is largely the establishment who sees,

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Speaker 12: in some cases, the opportunity to break the Trump grip

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Speaker 12: on the Republican Party, to go back to a Republican

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Speaker 12: party that they liked before.

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Speaker 7: And JD Vance isn't comcouing to that. He's not catering

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Speaker 7: to that.

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Speaker 12: What he did on Rogan is is that's the real

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Speaker 12: JD Vance saying things other people won't say.

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Speaker 2: Really fascinating clip there, Mark, and I thought it was

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Speaker 2: so succinct. Explain this dynamic, because you know, we back

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Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen, we had the never Trumpers. You know,

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Speaker 2: there was the cover of the National Review and it

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Speaker 2: felt like basically trump Ism and MAGA won. And there's

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Speaker 2: a resurgence, and it seems like Marco and JD are

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Speaker 2: that proxy battle heading into twenty twenty eight. What are

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Speaker 2: the dynamics at play and what are you watching for?

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Speaker 7: Well, you campaign with too broad a brush, right.

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Speaker 12: Not everybody who doesn't like JD Vance or opposes him

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Speaker 12: for the nomination is motivated by a desire to return

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Speaker 12: to the Romney Bush McCain Republican Party.

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Speaker 7: But some of them are.

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Speaker 12: Some of them are, Some of them don't like his

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Speaker 12: position on Israel, some of them don't like him personally.

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Speaker 12: But what's beyond doubt is the level of vitriol for

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Speaker 12: him is quite high, and some of it can't quantify

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Speaker 12: how much, but some of it is driven by people

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Speaker 12: who say Trump's a lame duc We cannot let MAGA

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Speaker 12: continue to control this party.

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Speaker 7: We have to go back.

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Speaker 12: Whether it's is or tariffs or taxes or whatever it is,

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Speaker 12: we cannot go back to a pre We have to

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Speaker 12: go back to a pre Trump Republican Party. We cannot

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Speaker 12: let MAGA continue to dominate the party. And it's fascinating

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Speaker 12: because you know, not everybody likes what JD. Vance says,

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Speaker 12: including to Joe Rogan. But but go back and look

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Speaker 12: at what he said and ask yourself, did he say

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Speaker 12: anything that was wrong about Israel? Did he say anything

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Speaker 12: that was wrong about taxes or the economy? They may

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Speaker 12: not agree with him on his position, but in terms

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Speaker 12: of facts, with a few exceptions, he was spot on

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Speaker 12: and and love them privately agree with what he's saying.

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Speaker 12: So their distaste for MAGA, their distaste for the Trump era,

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Speaker 12: I would ask them, what is it that you don't like?

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Speaker 12: What is it besides Trump himself, besides his style, besides

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Speaker 12: his violation of some norms, What is it that you

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Speaker 12: don't like? And it's going to be fascinating to see

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Speaker 12: Jdvans navigate is because since Rogan, he's largely been out

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Speaker 12: of Limelake. He's just had a kid, So I'll be

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Speaker 12: curious to see how he speaks about all this stuff

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Speaker 12: when he comes back and starts doing interviews again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was interesting. I did sort of

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Speaker 2: a very unscientific real world polling, just asking you know,

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Speaker 2: friends of mine associates colleagues about some of the statements

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Speaker 2: about Israel or you know, Iran the MoU. Obviously he

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Speaker 2: was seen out front with the MU. And what struck

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Speaker 2: me mark is just how popular and mainstream the things

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Speaker 2: that he was saying have really become with a lot

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Speaker 2: of people on the right. Now, when you get on X,

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Speaker 2: it's a battlefield, right you, people that represent different constituencies

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Speaker 2: are really vocal, really loud. They're sniping at him. But

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Speaker 2: in general, it was kind of a middle of the

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Speaker 2: line popular I guess sentiment that he was expressing. But

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Speaker 2: then you go on X and you think it's like

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Speaker 2: he said something completely untoward. I actually happen to think

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Speaker 2: that he's carving out some real popular populist positions. You know,

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Speaker 2: some people I heard, I think Ben Shapiro said that

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Speaker 2: he you know, he was seeing socialist economics. I didn't

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Speaker 2: hear that at all. He's talking about common good economics.

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Speaker 2: I think that is popular because there is a felt need,

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Speaker 2: whether it be affordability or the wealth inequality that has

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Speaker 2: you know, exploded after COVID. I think he's got the

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Speaker 2: winning message in a lot of ways. I'm a big

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Speaker 2: supporter of his, but I understand that people are not there.

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Speaker 2: They think he's These are some of the things I've heard.

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Speaker 2: That he's too tied to Tucker, he hasn't disavowed Tucker

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Speaker 2: or something that they they don't think he's you know,

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Speaker 2: got the proper foreign policy position on Israel, or that

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Speaker 2: he was too aggressive on the m OU. But if

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Speaker 2: you look them ou was popular his you know, he

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Speaker 2: actually got a boost in the polling when he started

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Speaker 2: pushing them OU and a lot of people want to

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Speaker 2: see the MoU get put back in place as we

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Speaker 2: exchange you know, jabs with with Iran. But these things

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Speaker 2: tend to be very popular. I think You're point is

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Speaker 2: well made, and I experienced that firsthand talking to people

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Speaker 2: over the weekend and at the end of last week.

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Speaker 2: I don't see where the controversy is now. One thing

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Speaker 2: I want to say, Mark, because I think this is

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Speaker 2: getting lost in it. I'm not alleging the people that

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Speaker 2: are attacking him on X for example, are paid to

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Speaker 2: do so. I think they have really legitimate questions and concerns.

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Speaker 2: But my guess is he's going these these are popular.

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Speaker 12: Positions, Yeah, many of them are. I think it's you know, look,

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Speaker 12: any vice president. I've covered several vice presidents who people

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Speaker 12: thought of as potentially running for president, and I'm still

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Speaker 12: not sure he's gonna run. By the way, any vice

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Speaker 12: president gets negative coverage, it's the nature of the beast.

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Speaker 12: You go back and look at how Al Gore was

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Speaker 12: covered or Dan Quayle was covered.

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Speaker 7: Kam l Herrs.

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Speaker 12: It's a tough job to do well in because you

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Speaker 12: have to agree with the boss, and as the saying goes,

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Speaker 12: you get all the enemies and only a few of

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Speaker 12: his friends. At the same time, the beyond people who

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Speaker 12: don't want him to be the future of the party.

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Speaker 12: It's difficult as vice president to enunciate what you really

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Speaker 12: think because he got to go with what the boss thinks. So,

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Speaker 12: for instance, I really don't know what jd Vance thinks

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Speaker 12: about the current Trump administration policies on the economy. That

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Speaker 12: policies on iron get a lot of attention for obvious reasons,

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Speaker 12: but where is he.

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Speaker 7: On the economy.

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Speaker 12: I don't really know how he might differ from Donald

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Speaker 12: Trump on the economy. And I think if he does

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Speaker 12: run for president, it'll be both a challenge because he'll

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Speaker 12: have to separate politely from his boss, but also an

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Speaker 12: opportunity to define himself maybe on different terms. And I've

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Speaker 12: no doubt he's a free market capitalist, but his boss

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Speaker 12: has you know, people say, well he's his economic policies

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Speaker 12: are are a democrat. A lot of things Donald Trump

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Speaker 12: has been for, like taking ownership in these companies, that's

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Speaker 12: not traditional Republican economics either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark, when do you see is it after the

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Speaker 2: midterms that this becomes more fair game? Is that the timing?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'd say a bit between November and March will

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Speaker 12: know a lot more.

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Speaker 2: Alprin amazing analysis is all.

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Speaker 7: We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: life back. We go to campuses all over America and

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Speaker 2: we see student after student who's drowning in private student

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Speaker 2: loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much

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Speaker 2: they owe. Why ref I can help. Just go to

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Speaker 2: dot com. And remember why REFI doesn't care what your

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Speaker 2: credit score is. Just go to yrefi dot com and

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Speaker 2: tell them your friend Andrews sent you. We have a

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Speaker 2: great treat in store for you. And that is of

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Speaker 2: course j Feely. He is now the official Republican nominee

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Speaker 2: for CD one, trying to send him to Congress. He

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Speaker 2: had a great primary victory last week. We covered it live,

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Speaker 2: of course with Tyler Boyer, COO of Turning Point Action.

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Speaker 2: Now he joins us, Jay, welcome back to the show

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Speaker 2: and congratulations on a massive, massive primary victory. It was

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Speaker 2: not easy, but you ended up winning by kind of

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Speaker 2: a lot. Give us your reactions of what that moment

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Speaker 2: meant for you and where that leaves us.

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Speaker 13: Now, Andrew, you know it was a special day.

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Speaker 7: I'll take you back to that morning. You know, my

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Speaker 7: wife and I got.

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Speaker 13: Up and we said the prayer that we've said every

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Speaker 13: single day since we announced that we were running, and

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Speaker 13: that's to put on God's full armor of protection. We

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Speaker 13: walked through it every morning, and then we had a

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Speaker 13: great piece about it. You know, I didn't know which

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Speaker 13: way it was going to go. We knew what the

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Speaker 13: polls were showing, and I knew that we had done

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Speaker 13: all the work that we could do.

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Speaker 7: You know, we did all the events.

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Speaker 13: We knocked on eight thousand doors in July alone, we

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Speaker 13: made eighty thousand calls, and our team had been putting

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Speaker 13: in all the work, and you know, I just had

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Speaker 13: a piece and I just prayed, you know, Okay, God,

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Speaker 13: if you want me in this political process, then open

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Speaker 13: the doors, and if you don't, then close the doors

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Speaker 13: like I want your will to be done. And because

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Speaker 13: of that, we could have a great piece. You know,

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Speaker 13: Paul talks about that piece that transcends all understanding. That's

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Speaker 13: how my wife and I felt. And you know, I'm

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Speaker 13: excited about this process. You know, I'm kind of reinvigorated

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Speaker 13: because when you're running a primary, you're running against guys

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Speaker 13: that mostly have the same beliefs that you have. And

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Speaker 13: now you know, in this general you know, the two

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Speaker 13: parties have never been further apart ideologically, and the Democrat

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Speaker 13: Party has has wholeheartedly embraced Democrats socialism, and you can

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Speaker 13: really focus on the issues, and you can focus on

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Speaker 13: the differences and where this country is going. You know,

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Speaker 13: one party wants to, you know, embrace this Democrat socialist mentality,

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Speaker 13: open borders, open prisons, getting rid of the Senate, you know,

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Speaker 13: completely undermining and changing the very foundations that this country

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Speaker 13: was founded on. And one party believes in common sense ideas,

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Speaker 13: trying to create equality, trying to create the right economic

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Speaker 13: environment for people to thrive individually and businesses to thrive,

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Speaker 13: and to respect individual liberties, you know, and I'm excited

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Speaker 13: for to be able to make that distinction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was really well put, Jay. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we spent a lot of our first hour of the

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Speaker 2: show today talking about the rise of DSA and what

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Speaker 2: their policy planks actually are. It's terrifying, and people don't

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Speaker 2: realize that the Democrat Party apparatus in the state of

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Speaker 2: Arizona is very radical. I mean, it's indistinguishable from Mom

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Speaker 2: Donnie's New York. The ideas that they're espousing what their

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Speaker 2: vision for the future is. So tell us about your

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Speaker 2: opponent now in the general and what we would get

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Speaker 2: if we don't get j Feeley over the finish line

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Speaker 2: in CD one for Arizona.

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Speaker 13: Well, I think it's pretty interesting if you go back

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Speaker 13: to this primary. The Democrats spent about seven million dollars

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Speaker 13: just in this primary. They endorsed Marlene Woods. They did

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Speaker 13: not endorse doctor Mishaw. They spent a ton of money

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Speaker 13: against him, you know, And they wanted somebody who they

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Speaker 13: felt would fit this district more, somebody who is more moderate,

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Speaker 13: and they didn't get that. And you know, they got

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Speaker 13: a Meshaw again, who ran two years ago against David

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Speaker 13: Schweiker lost fifty two forty eight, you know. And and

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Speaker 13: he's somebody who wants a single payer system, you know,

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Speaker 13: that wants medicaid for all, and you know, wants to

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Speaker 13: embrace and has embraced a lot of these Democrats socialist

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Speaker 13: policies that you know, believes in the destruction of capitalism

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Speaker 13: and the destruction of the American Empire, and you know,

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Speaker 13: wants to undermine so many of the foundational qualities that

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Speaker 13: we believe. And you have to I think a rational

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Speaker 13: person is going to look at where this Democrat socialist

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Speaker 13: movement is going. Who are the leaders of the Democrat

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Speaker 13: Party Now it is AOC and Bernie Sanders, it is Mandani.

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Speaker 13: They are having tremendous success around the country, not just

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Speaker 13: in New York with the three House seats there, but

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Speaker 13: in Colorado, in Pennsylvania in the mayor race and d C.

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Speaker 13: This is spreading across the country and the Democrat Party

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Speaker 13: is panicking about this because they know that these ideas

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Speaker 13: and the ideology that they expose, especially here in CD one,

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Speaker 13: in this district that you know is as a center

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Speaker 13: right district. You know, it's a district that has sixty

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Speaker 13: thousand Moorish registered Republicans and Democrats got one hundred and

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Speaker 13: eighty thousand registered independents. And I believe most of those

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Speaker 13: independence lean to the right, you know, but they want

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Speaker 13: the right economic opportunities for their children to succeed in

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Speaker 13: the next generations. They want individual liberties, and they do

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Speaker 13: not want this platform that believes in fundamentally changing America

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Speaker 13: and what's made it great. You know, you look at

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Speaker 13: the last two hundred and fifty years, what we've been

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Speaker 13: able to accomplish, and the poverty that capitalism has eliminated,

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Speaker 13: not just here in this country, but around the world.

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Speaker 13: It is the great system to lift people out of

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Speaker 13: poverty and give people who come from nothing the opportunity

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Speaker 13: to be a success in life. That's what's great about America.

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Speaker 13: That's why we are, you know, the shiny beacon on

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Speaker 13: the hill, and we need to fight for that. And

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Speaker 13: we're going to continue to make that distinction throughout this

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Speaker 13: race with me and a Misha.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you started this conversation Jay basically saying, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: the ideological divergence between the two parties has never been greater,

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Speaker 2: never been larger. And the DSA's plan for America is

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Speaker 2: to destroy It is to destroy what has made America America.

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Speaker 2: And you go around your district, and I know that

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Speaker 2: district pretty well now as I've moved to Arizona, you know,

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Speaker 2: in November really before that of last year, and it's

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Speaker 2: you feel it. It's a center right district. The question

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Speaker 2: is going to be turnout. And the reason this is

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Speaker 2: so critically important is the midterms we don't see as

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Speaker 2: much turnout. Trump's not on the ballot. That's why what

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Speaker 2: we're doing a turning point action is so critically important,

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Speaker 2: and I just want to stress this for the audience listening.

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Speaker 2: J Feely's district CD one in Arizona could be what

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Speaker 2: the entire Congress. The balance of power hinges upon your district.

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Speaker 2: No pressure, Jay, but that's how big the steaks are

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Speaker 2: in your district. It's one of the few true swing

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Speaker 2: districts in the country, and we've got more registered Republicans there.

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Speaker 2: The question is can we get them out? And that's

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Speaker 2: why Turning Point Action is investing so much time and

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Speaker 2: energy in CD one. That's why we have ballat chasers

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Speaker 2: deployed because we believe in you, and I just want

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Speaker 2: to say you are the right man for this job.

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Speaker 2: I know that in my gut you are a good

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Speaker 2: Christian man. You pray, you raise your kids to love

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Speaker 2: the Lord, you raise a beautiful family, and you've put

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Speaker 2: your heart and soul into this. So action items we

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Speaker 2: got to get people to come out, do not be disaffected.

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Speaker 2: The future of Western civilization could very well hang on

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Speaker 2: CD one. So what are the action items for people listening?

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Speaker 10: Jay?

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Speaker 13: Well, I love that. I love the fact that it's consequential.

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Speaker 13: I talked about that in my speech after we won

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Speaker 13: in the primary. You like, when you do things, you

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Speaker 13: want to be involved in something that's going to have

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Speaker 13: real meaning and going to have an impact on the

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Speaker 13: future of our country. And I truly believe that this

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Speaker 13: seat and this election, this midterm election, has the ability

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Speaker 13: to fundamentally shape our country going forward. I think one

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Speaker 13: of the things that we need, Andrew, is Christians to

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Speaker 13: be engaged in the political process. We have forty million

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Speaker 13: Christians around the country that don't vote, that aren't engaged

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Speaker 13: in the process, you know. And for me, you know,

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Speaker 13: We're going to do all kinds of events. We're going

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Speaker 13: to do town halls where we talk to independence and

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Speaker 13: Democrats come out out and talk to us. Here here

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Speaker 13: what I believe and why I believe it, the impact

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Speaker 13: that I've tried to have on this community, the engagement

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Speaker 13: that my wife and I have always done, you know,

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Speaker 13: throughout my time in the NFL, and why I wanted

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Speaker 13: to get into politics to effectuate people's lives, you know.

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Speaker 13: But the other thing I want to do is I

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Speaker 13: want to go to churches and I want to sit

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Speaker 13: down and be able to talk to people in those communities,

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Speaker 13: in those churches about why they should care about this

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Speaker 13: process the impact it has because I believe if you're

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Speaker 13: a Christian and you believe in trying to live a

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Speaker 13: life for Christ, then there's only one party that you

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Speaker 13: can support. Doesn't mean that the Republican Party and Conservatives

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Speaker 13: are perfect, not by any means, but when you look

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Speaker 13: at the two parties and what they advocate for and

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Speaker 13: where they want this country to go, if you believe

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Speaker 13: in God and you are a Christian, there's only one

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Speaker 13: party that's advocating for those policies that respects life and

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Speaker 13: tries to create the right opportunity for this country to follow.

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Speaker 13: It's Judeo Christian roots, and that is the Conservatives. That

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Speaker 13: is the Republican Party. You know. So I want to

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Speaker 13: do something that isn't done a lot in politics, and

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Speaker 13: going and doing those meetings in churches on Saturdays talking

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Speaker 13: giving the right opportunity and forum for people in those

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Speaker 13: churches to come out and hear you and question you

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Speaker 13: and listen to you, because we need those people engage.

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Speaker 13: We're gonna do our huddles that we do every Sunday

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Speaker 13: where we go into people's homes and you invite all

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Speaker 13: your friends and family, not as a fundraiser but to

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Speaker 13: communicate and talk and to be able to ask questions.

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Speaker 13: We're gonna be doing our Friday night football events that

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Speaker 13: we that we started last year where we go to

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Speaker 13: all the football games.

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Speaker 2: Jay Peey for Congress, Jay Pheey for Congress, get involved,

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Speaker 2: chip in some money. This man is the real deal

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna take it home for us. Over the

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Speaker 2: finish line in CD one, Jay, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So, I don't know if you guys have

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Speaker 2: seen this yet, but it is definitely worth covering on

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Speaker 2: this show. Doctor Fauci is in the news again, and

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Speaker 2: why because Senator Ran Paul, Republican from Kentucky publicly released

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Speaker 2: the Fauci diaries that he uncovered in the course of

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Speaker 2: his investigation into Anthony Fauci, and he released them on

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Speaker 2: July twenty fifth, is part of a Senate Homeland Security

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Speaker 2: Committee oversight investigation into COVID nineteen origins and Fauci's role.

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Speaker 2: Senator Paul posted a thread on Tony's diaries covering roughly

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Speaker 2: December twenty nineteen, so right before the outbreak was felt

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Speaker 2: very strongly here in the United States, we were getting

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Speaker 2: reports of it in China. So it covers it from

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Speaker 2: December twenty nineteen through December twenty twenty two, and it's

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Speaker 2: all available on the Senate side. I recommend you guys

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Speaker 2: go check it out. I'm pouring through it right now.

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Speaker 2: But what he does is he frames what doctor Fauci

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Speaker 2: said publicly versus what he wrote privately in his own journal.

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Speaker 2: And this is becoming shortly before doctor Fauci is scheduled

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Speaker 2: subpoenaed to testify before the committee. So these are contemporaneous

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Speaker 2: notes of what doctor Fauci saw and what he was

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Speaker 2: saying and versus what he said publicly, which we have

863
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Speaker 2: a very ample record of. And there is a couple

864
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: of things that are just extraordinary, okay, absolute bombshell stuff. One,

865
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: we get this weird view into doctor Fauci being completely

866
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: obsessed with himself in his own fame. He notes more

867
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Speaker 2: than once at his he's almost flabbergasted at how famous

868
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Speaker 2: he was becoming, that he is probably the most famous

869
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Speaker 2: scientist in the world. He posts pictures like this one

870
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Speaker 2: sixty seven. This is actual entries from doctor Fauci's journal,

871
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: his diary, where he's posting pictures of him of cookies

872
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: on himself. He has a bobblehead doll that he's just

873
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: so taken by. This is actual. Have you ever known

874
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Speaker 2: a man to post diary injuries of this nature? One

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Speaker 2: sixty eight. This is more Docuchi, the Fauci Pauci. These

876
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: are I guess alcoholic beverages of some sort, and they've

877
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: got his face on him. He loves this. He posts

878
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 2: another a mosaic, this again released by Chairman Ran Paul

879
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 2: of the Homeland Security Committee. Of all these people wearing

880
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: Fauci shirts, he's obsessed with himself. This is what's also fascinating.

881
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: So we have public video available to all of us.

882
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: This is part of the public record of Anthony Fauchin

883
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: denying that he had anything to do with closing schools.

884
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: Turns out, though he left a little breadcrumb for us

885
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 2: in his diary one point fifty seven. This is saying

886
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: I spoke with Bill Deblasio, Mayor of New York City,

887
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 2: and convinced him, based on what I was saying publicly

888
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: in my conversation tonight, to close the New York City schools.

889
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: I went on to tell him he could close the

890
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: bars and restaurants in New York City. I had a

891
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: similar call with Anne O'Leary, the chief staff of Governor

892
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom of California, and said that based on my

893
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: TV appearances today and yesterday, the governor has decided to

894
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: close the schools in California, as well as bars and restaurants.

895
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: This is a direct contradiction to his publicly stated statements

896
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: that he had nothing to do with closing the schools.

897
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: He convinced New York in California, which led the way

898
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Speaker 2: on these draconian lockdowns to close everything up. The other

899
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: thing that becomes really interesting is this discussion about where

900
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: the origin of the virus came from. There is a

901
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: very very famous meeting of twelve scientists that gathered in

902
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: a room, and from that we got proximal origin right,

903
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: that it came from the wet market. Well, it turns

904
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: out of those twelve scientists only two believes that it

905
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: came out of the wet market. The rest of them

906
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: believed that direct insertion i e. A lab leak was

907
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: more probable. So this is one p. Fifty eight, Fauci

908
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: writes in his diary. Now we know the market was

909
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: not the source. It was the amplifier. Okay, this is

910
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: January of twenty twenty, the wet market was already off

911
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 2: the table in his own private notes, and yet we

912
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: took months of deliberation saying that it was probably a lablink.

913
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: We had an argument, very very loud of vociferus that

914
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: it was probably a lablink because the Wuhan Institute was

915
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: right there where the source of the spread originated. It

916
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: was very obvious to anybody with common sense. And yet

917
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: they denied this, They obfuscated, they lied publicly. But in

918
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: his own notes, as of January twenty twenty, we knew

919
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: that the wet market was off the table. We got

920
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: banned on social media for saying this. You were not

921
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: allowed to say this. This was called dangerous disinformation. That

922
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: it was sparking anti Chinese racism pretty remarkable. Only two

923
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: concluded it was natural. You could throw it one fifty nine.

924
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 2: This is a list of scientists on that call. Only

925
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: two concluded it was natural. Per Fauci's own notes. The

926
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Speaker 2: rest felt that deliberate assertion was the was the case.

927
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Speaker 2: This was as doctor Rand Paul says, It was never

928
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty room as was expressed. So in

929
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: May twenty third of twenty twenty one, f Fauci called

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00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: the lead author of Proximal Origin, the paper he'd been

931
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: citing publicly as independent science, for reassurance about his own

932
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: NIH grant his diary. I feel much better now that

933
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 2: he is in total support of what I have been saying. Okay,

934
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Speaker 2: so listen to this. I had a very interesting and

935
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Speaker 2: helpful conversation today with Christian Andersen of Scripts Research Into Institute.

936
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 2: He was very emphatic that the work that was done

937
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: at the Wuhan Institute in association with our grant was

938
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: not gain a function. In addition, he confirmed that if

939
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: you match the chimeric viruses that were made in the

940
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: context of the NIH grant at Ruhan, they are not

941
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 2: even close sequences sequence wise to the SARS CoV two.

942
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 2: So this is basically establishing that he gets to keep

943
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: his grant. There is so much more here that needs

944
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: to be unpacked, and we're going to unpack it in

945
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: the days to come. But watch this space. Doctor Fauci

946
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 2: is probably the biggest shape shifting liar of a con

947
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: artist that's ever been unleashed on the American public, and

948
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: he's being caught out by his own freaking diary. He

949
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: can't make this stuff up for nearly three thousand years,

950
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 2: Homer's the Odyssey has shaped Western imagination. It tells the

951
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Speaker 2: story of Odysseus as he faces monsters, shipwrecks, false comforts,

952
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: and impossible choices on his long journey home. As one

953
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Speaker 2: of the foundational works of Western literature, Homer's epic is

954
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Speaker 2: more than a mythology. It explores permanent questions about courage, duty, loyalty,

955
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Speaker 2: family leadership, temptation, and the search for home. In one

956
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: of the epic's defining moments, Odysseus rejects the offer of

957
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: immortality from the goddess Calypso, choosing instead the long and

958
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Speaker 2: difficult journey home. His decision reveals one of the central

959
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Speaker 2: themes of the Odyssey that a life of duty, family,

960
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: and home is greater than a life devoted to comfort

961
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 2: or glory. Achilles chose glory, Odysseus chose home. That's why

962
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964
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Speaker 2: for Hillsdale dot com. All Right, Rich bears big data

969
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 2: pol joins us. Now the people's pundit. Rich, you sent

970
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: me an article over the weekend that definitely, you know,

971
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: gives me pause, right, And it came from the Washington Post.

972
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: They went out and they talked to a bunch of

973
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: people in the field, and they're noticing a lack of enthusiasm.

974
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: And I think this is the stando out quote. It

975
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: says about one in five reliable Republican base voters are

976
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: at risk in November. They either will stay home or

977
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: vote them across Iowa, Ohio, North Carolina. I believe that's Montana,

978
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: New Hampshire, Michigan. That's that's terrifying. Rich, is that? And

979
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: that you've been warning about this for a long time

980
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: since said Rich, you gotta come on, and what is

981
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: driving this at risk? Purport? One in five? Is it

982
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: that bad?

983
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 5: And I think everyone needs to remove the term blackpilling

984
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 5: from their vocabulary. Okay, people like me who have been

985
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 5: better or not even better, the best at surveying and

986
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 5: measuring and tracking the Trump coalition, which is different than

987
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 5: any previous Republican coalition have been now for over a year,

988
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 5: and by the way, that included Charlie because he was

989
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 5: one of my only allies before Operation Midnight Hammer. Trying

990
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 5: to warn everybody that if you do this will be

991
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 5: seen as a gross betrayal by a huge and critical

992
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 5: section of your base and they will not come back.

993
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 5: They may And this is not me being hyperbolic. This

994
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 5: is a group of people who joined the Trump coalition

995
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 5: because they expected something different. What they got was more

996
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 5: of the same Republicanism that the country rejected after George W.

997
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 11: Bush. I can't even be any more plane than that.

998
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 5: It started with how the mishandling of the Epstein situation

999
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 5: came in to be By the way, New York Times

1000
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 5: bestselling book Now came out and completely confirmed everything that

1001
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 5: I tried telling people. Even Dan Bongino knew I was right,

1002
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 5: even though he wasn't eating of the courage to say

1003
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 5: it in public.

1004
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 11: And we are at this point now. I mean, Andrew,

1005
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 11: I do this every day for a living.

1006
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 5: Why would you listen to people ridiculous Twitter handles who

1007
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 5: interview zero people on a daily basis. This is what

1008
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 5: I do and have done better than anybody else for

1009
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 5: more than a decade, especially in the Trump era.

1010
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 11: This is not good. This isn't simple, you know.

1011
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 5: Being disaffected. This is a five alarm fire that we

1012
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 5: need to address. And I've been trying to shoot up

1013
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 5: flares for more than a year now to no avail.

1014
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 5: And I think, honestly, we're in the field now. You're

1015
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 5: going to see the poll real soon. Andrew, I think

1016
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 5: the rug pull on the piece deal is a problem.

1017
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 5: More than a problem.

1018
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: It's yeah, well, so let's go through this. You sent

1019
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 2: me some graphics here, Yeah, your your first one. It's

1020
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 2: just two colors, easy to read to pie chart. He said,

1021
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: do you think it is worth paying four dollars a

1022
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 2: gallon or hire for gas to continue fighting the Iran War?

1023
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: Your poll says thirty four point one percent says yes,

1024
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: it's worth paying higher gas prices to fighting. Around sixty

1025
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 2: five point nine percent say no, not it's paying.

1026
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 11: By the way, it's higher.

1027
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 5: Now since we talked and I sent that to you,

1028
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 5: I mean we obviously continue to interview people for the

1029
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 5: rest of Sunday.

1030
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 11: It's higher.

1031
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 5: Let me just ask a question real quick, Ben, can

1032
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 5: you read are you colorblind? Martisen? You're the one who

1033
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,959
Speaker 5: brought up the four gasoline per gallon? Can you read

1034
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 5: are you colorblind? Mark Levin? Can you read are you

1035
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 5: color blind? That entire group doesn't have a single single

1036
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 5: data point on their side to argue for the catastrophic

1037
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 5: policy that they have led this administration in that they

1038
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 5: have advocated for, which is, by the way, more of

1039
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 5: the same Bushism. It's the exact reason while Donald Trump

1040
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 5: was able to win a nomination against seventeen other people and,

1041
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 5: by the way, make the biggest political, most impressive political

1042
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 5: comeback in US history. So why on earth would we

1043
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 5: ever think it was a good idea to go down

1044
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 5: the path of those people, the dinosaurs, who represent a shrinking.

1045
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 11: And dying It's not even a coalition, it's a.

1046
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 5: Shrinking and literally dying demographic in the US electorate. The

1047
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 5: only thing they've accomplished since And yes, you know, people

1048
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 5: like Charlie and I were.

1049
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 11: Successful in limiting the strikes last year.

1050
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 5: But what we knew, what everyone else didn't want to accept,

1051
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 5: is that if they did Operation Midnight Hammer, it was

1052
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 5: always going to lead to an unpopular full on kinetic war,

1053
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 5: and now here we are Andrew, and the only thing

1054
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 5: they accomplished, the only thing this group of people have accomplished,

1055
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 5: is that now MAGA has shrunk and transformed into something

1056
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 5: that is dwarfed by what the Democrats are going to

1057
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 5: put together.

1058
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 11: Unfortunately it looks that way.

1059
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 5: And millennials want nothing to do with the Republican Party,

1060
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 5: which is maybe people don't know this.

1061
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 11: And by the way, go buy burn it down, go

1062
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 11: pre order it. That's why I wrote it. I'm sorry

1063
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 11: I didn't write it sooner.

1064
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 5: I wish people would have been able to read it

1065
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 5: sooner so we didn't have to go through this painful process.

1066
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 5: But millennials are actually the largest voting eligible population share

1067
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 5: in this country. Boomers just vote at a higher rate,

1068
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 5: but they turn eighty this year and.

1069
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 11: Will soon fall off.

1070
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 5: Chasing away millennials was the single most unwise is the

1071
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 5: best word I could drum up right now. Move that

1072
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 5: I've ever seen a political party mate.

1073
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: Rich, So with millennials, you know we saw a big move. Okay,

1074
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Speaker 2: if you date all the way back to Obama when

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00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: they when we lost millennials by I don't know what

1076
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: it was like forty points or something. It became basically

1077
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: a swing vote. It was a fifty to fifty vote.

1078
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Speaker 2: It what were millennials at in twenty twenty four? And

1079
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: now what's the delta since the election?

1080
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 5: Okay, this is important because Donald Trump didn't just win

1081
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 5: and win kind of easily, right, Andrew, I mean we

1082
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 5: were done at eleven o'clock at night. We were all

1083
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 5: you know, we were done that. We haven't seen a

1084
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 5: presidential election get put away.

1085
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: Surprising since surprisingly easy.

1086
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, since Barack Obama dismantled Marktisen's coalition when they ran

1087
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 5: Mit Romney. That was the last time we've seen a

1088
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 5: presidential election get called that quickly. By the way, all right,

1089
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 5: this is key to how Trump was able to do that.

1090
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 5: It wasn't that that he just changed minds millennials. And

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00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 5: if you look at the story of millennials, on which

1092
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 5: I am one, you'll see nine to eleven hit them

1093
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 5: the minute they come into the workforce and they become adults,

1094
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 5: right the old of the Muldism, which is me, I'm

1095
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 5: right before gen X. They get hit with nine to

1096
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 5: eleven and it completely changes their world and how things work. Unfortunately,

1097
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 5: it also stripped a lot of their liberties, which soured

1098
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 5: them on the Republican Party later down the road when

1099
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 5: it became clear that it wasn't worth it. Then they

1100
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 5: start to recover from some of this and they get

1101
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 5: smashed with the financial.

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01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 11: Crisis, all right, then that goes away.

1103
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 5: Trump comes around, He you know, resurrects the Republican Party

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01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 5: after two very disappointing years when they backed Obama.

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01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 11: All right, in twenty seventeen, they become.

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01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 5: The largest share, the largest single generational share of the

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01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 5: voting eligible population. But they're still not voting at significantly

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01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 5: higher rates. So boomers and others are able to keep them,

1109
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 5: you know, to keep them from flexing their political muscles.

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01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 11: As we'd like to say.

1111
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 5: It's not until twenty twenty four when Donald Trump didn't

1112
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 5: just change minds. These are disaffected people that through this

1113
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 5: would happened after that COVID, right, Donald Trump was able

1114
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 5: to convince a large group of millennials to come out

1115
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 5: and vote again and participate in the process when in

1116
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 5: previous elections they had checked out again, they were done,

1117
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 5: they gave Obama a chance, and they're okay, and they

1118
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 5: came out in large shares for Obama. They drove older

1119
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 5: shares of the vote down into the mid to low twenties.

1120
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 5: And then by the time, you know, Obama began to

1121
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 5: cause disaffection himself. You know, the boomers started to get

1122
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 5: to the mid and high twenties again, even in some

1123
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 5: elections in midterms of course, in the thirties. So they

1124
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 5: punched way above their weight because they're voting at rates

1125
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 5: you know, that are significantly higher. Trump didn't judge the

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01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 5: millennial mind changer. He did a whole show on this

1127
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 5: and inside the numbers because of the death of Whole

1128
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 5: Kulgan and what it meant culturally, and it was a

1129
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 5: perfect example, perfectly symbolic. So we did an entire show

1130
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Speaker 5: on this. And I don't know at this point.

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Speaker 7: And then people always, well, Rich, what.

1132
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 11: Do we do now?

1133
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Speaker 5: The answer is, I don't really know, Andrew, because I

1134
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 5: mean I knew the answer a year ago. I knew

1135
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 5: the answer six months ago even and I think before

1136
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 5: with the peace deal, we saw Trump's his approval rating

1137
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 5: rebounded strongly with that peace deal.

1138
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 11: I showed you that pole. We talked about that pole

1139
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 11: as well. Oh yes, his favorability shot that positive.

1140
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 5: And by the way, this is another thing to consider,

1141
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna put this other stuff to rest, which

1142
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 5: I try to do every time I come on the show.

1143
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 11: Here, JD's the only one that can win a national election.

1144
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 5: Okay, nobody else can win a national election. You have

1145
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 5: to win the Rust Belt until the twenty Marc Rich.

1146
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 11: No, he can't.

1147
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 5: Zero chance, zero chance. He cannot win one of the

1148
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 5: Great Lakes.

1149
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 11: Roust Belt states.

1150
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 5: Look at how close Wisconsin was for Donald Trump. Donald

1151
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 5: Trump is the reason why you can win the state

1152
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 5: of Michigan, Pennsylvania.

1153
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 11: These are not swing states. They're really not.

1154
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 5: This is the dupe that Republicans have allowed themselves to believe.

1155
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 5: They're not swing states. They're Trump's swing states, and a

1156
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 5: particular brand of Trump that now now unfortunately most voters,

1157
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 5: whether you support Donald Trump or not, is a relevant

1158
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 5: You are still a shrinking part of the electorate, the

1159
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 5: overall electorate. All that matters is how the rest of

1160
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 5: his coalition from twenty four views it, and they don't

1161
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 5: view it that way anymore. So that hurts by extension,

1162
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 5: hurts the only guy who can win a national election,

1163
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 5: and why can he when others can't?

1164
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 11: Because of his story?

1165
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 5: He is that millennial we were just talking about his

1166
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 5: entire story embodies their identity.

1167
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,959
Speaker 2: Andrew Rich Charlie was a big believer in the fact

1168
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: that JD was the right pick for vice president because

1169
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 2: of his story, because he thought that he could help

1170
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: in the rust belt. All right, Rich, I want to

1171
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 2: show another graph from some of your polling here, because

1172
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: I think it's really important that people visually see this stuff.

1173
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: One seventy two. Throw it up. Do you support or

1174
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: oppose reopening negotiations to end their war? And you've got

1175
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: forty point six percent strongly support, and then you got

1176
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: twenty four point seven that somewhat support. So you add

1177
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 2: those two together, Rich, you're looking at what sixty five

1178
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 2: percent of the electorate supports negotiating an end to the

1179
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: Iran issue. And we just got a clip, by the way,

1180
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: breaking in the middle of the break, President Trumples on

1181
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: air First One headed to Michigan and he said, they

1182
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: want to meet, We're gonna meet. We're gonna see what happens.

1183
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: All right. Obviously it's tough. It's tough to negotiate with Iran.

1184
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 2: This is one of the reasons getting involved in a

1185
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: conflict in the first place was probably a questionable eicially,

1186
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: because you can always start a war, but you can't.

1187
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,959
Speaker 2: You can't finish, you can't you can't determine when it ends.

1188
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: They get to say in it too, but it's popular rich.

1189
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 2: This is why JD's favorable shot up when he was

1190
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: seen as leading the MoU negotiations. How much of an

1191
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: impact can this have if we're successful getting a resolution

1192
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: to the Iran conflict.

1193
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 5: You know, it can't hurt. You know, let me let

1194
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 5: me put it this way, it can't hurt. It's the

1195
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 5: only choice at this moment. Last week we did a

1196
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 5: show because a lot of what people here out there

1197
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 5: is just patently wrong about the views of Iranian The

1198
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,959
Speaker 5: Iranian people and the views of the Iranians do matter

1199
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 5: as far as whether a deal holds or not, because

1200
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 5: every regime must maintain regime credibility. They can't be seen

1201
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 5: as capitulating. Honestly, Jade Vance, the Vice President, is a

1202
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 5: Helen Keller like miracle worker. The fact that he was

1203
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 5: able to get the terms of the MoU that the

1204
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 5: neocons hated, by the way, the fact that he was

1205
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 5: able to even able to get those terms, considering what

1206
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 5: of Iranians, how their opinions have changed after Operation Midnight Hammer.

1207
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 5: Is a real testament to how much work he must

1208
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 5: have put into it and how much persuasion you know

1209
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 5: that the guy must be capable of. Because the truth

1210
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 5: is and people hate this, they hate hearing this, but

1211
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 5: it's true. The warmongers lied to all of you, including

1212
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 5: the President. The Iranians were not these you know, rabid,

1213
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 5: fanatical pursuers of a nuclear bomb.

1214
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 11: Andrew, It's simply false. You know that in polling.

1215
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 5: From credible organizations that aren't backed by the CIA and

1216
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 5: other regime change think tanks, is very very clear from Gallup,

1217
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 5: the University of Maryland, from Pew. They didn't even believe

1218
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 5: before Operation Midnight Hammer, they didn't even believe Islam permitted

1219
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 5: the development of nuclear weapons. Now they want a bomb

1220
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 5: and they are going to be it's going to be

1221
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 5: more difficult for the regime to sell this to their population.

1222
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 11: In the wake of Operation Midnight Hammer. I was stunned that.

1223
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 5: Jada even got the terms he did because the regime

1224
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 5: has no incentive they can take punishment Andrew, their population

1225
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 5: supports it, and they're not a democratically elected government, right,

1226
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 5: so they don't care their number one problem with their

1227
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 5: regime is economic reforms, which they blame the West for. Anyway,

1228
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 5: you were all lied to. They were never going to

1229
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 5: topple their government. There was never an anti Mollah sentiment

1230
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 5: in Iran. Mark Levin and the rest of them.

1231
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 11: Lied to you. They lied to you. They use fake

1232
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 11: CIA polling. We've read documents on the show.

1233
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 5: They're laughing at you because it's just fake poles. They're

1234
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 5: just fake they were made.

1235
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 2: To suit the West. It was domestic population. Yeah, yeah,

1236
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 2: you're saying the domestic population in Iran is in favor

1237
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 2: of this regime. It is. The regime is significantly or

1238
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 2: sufficiently popular.

1239
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and the only time in multi decades of polling

1240
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 5: by credible outlets, not fake CIA led polling.

1241
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 11: In multi decade.

1242
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 5: Trends, you can see that Operation Midnight Hammer was the

1243
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 5: catalyst and for the first time ever in the history

1244
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 5: of their polling, they want a bomb.

1245
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 2: Good job, all right, So Rich, Okay, So people accepted.

1246
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 11: The iotolas fop.

1247
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 5: By the way, I just wanted to say that they

1248
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 5: accepted the Iotolus flot law not to develop a nuclear weapon,

1249
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 5: just a nuclear program, but not a nuclear weapon. Seventy

1250
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 5: eight percent Andrew, and it completely turned it around with

1251
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 5: Operation Midnight Hammer.

1252
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 7: Good job.

1253
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: So all right, I hear you loud and clear. But

1254
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: peace is popular. We've got to pursue it. And here's

1255
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: here's the question. So you see the rise of DSA.

1256
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: We only got about a minute and a half left.

1257
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: Rise of DSA. It is a symptom of an underlying

1258
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: problem in our politics. Feels like nothing gets fixed, doesn't

1259
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: matter who you vote for. And the question then becomes,

1260
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 2: if you had a magic wand and from a messaging

1261
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: and a policy standpoint between now and election day November,

1262
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: what should the admin be hitting hard? What do they

1263
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 2: need to say real quick, one minute, Rich, They have

1264
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 2: to they.

1265
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 5: Have to dump this war and acknowledge your affordability crisis

1266
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 5: in this country because Mom Donnie is not a fringe candidate.

1267
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 5: He is a He is the tip of a rising trend.

1268
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 5: What Andrew is referring to, folks, is the identification question.

1269
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 5: Every month, the number of Democrats who identify as socialists

1270
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 5: continue to rise. So it wasn't black pilling. It was

1271
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 5: me warning this country that if you turn it over

1272
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 5: to these people, they are crazy. These are fanatics. They honestly,

1273
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 5: Andrew everybody's got to get back to work. If you

1274
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 5: want to buck history, you better buck with Congress usually does,

1275
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 5: which is go home in the second year, especially in

1276
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 5: the month of August and do nothing.

1277
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 11: Republicans can't do that.

1278
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 5: They need to listen to President Trump, get rid of

1279
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 5: the filibuster, pass the Save Act, and acknowledge the affordability crisis,

1280
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 5: and actually do something you promise the American voter you

1281
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 5: would do.

1282
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: It's that simple. Yeah, when you've got a situation where

1283
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: one in five Republican, predictable, reliable voters might stay home,

1284
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't believe that they're going to vote them. Maybe

1285
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 2: some well, but I think now some more likely they're

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Speaker 2: just not going to show up. They're just not going

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Speaker 2: to show up. If you do that, that is the

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Speaker 2: underlying elements necessary for radical revolutionary politics in this country.

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Speaker 2: We've got to focus to messily Rich Barris, thank you,

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Speaker 2: my friend. We'll see you as soon.

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Speaker 11: All the best, brother. For more on many of these

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