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Speaker 2: All Right, So, for those who didn't see our show yesterday,

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Speaker 2: these are the two sons of Pastor son, who is

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Speaker 2: a pastor that Charlie met while he was in Korea.

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Speaker 2: That was the last international trip he took. He met

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Speaker 3: Two days correct, he was two.

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Speaker 2: Days he was arrested by Korean authorities for the alleged

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Speaker 2: that his political activities amounted to criminal behavior. And there's

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Speaker 2: been a lot of threats like that against Christian pastors

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Speaker 2: And so we've been following that story and we wanted

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Speaker 2: We hear about that in the US. Like all these guys,

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Speaker 4: We're like no, like for what he's like, oh, talking

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Speaker 5: So the very law my father has been arrested for

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Speaker 5: my father criticized a political candidate for pushing lgbtagend into

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean, the church is the only one

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Speaker 3: That would lower the gay rate in our government. They

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So tell me about your your story. How do

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Speaker 6: One problem in South Korea is, for instance, young Christian

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's no Christian word you actually in South

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Speaker 6: But pastors think like there are seventy percent conservative people,

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Speaker 5: Would make a lot of people uncomfortable. M hm, even

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Speaker 5: although it was one third of the Christian population. Are

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Speaker 5: you guys married, My brother's married, dear kids, yeah, two kids.

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Speaker 2: Ah, single handedly triple in the country's birth rate.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and I have much more. Yeah, I love it anymore.

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Speaker 5: something I need to learn. Or Mike as well, I'm

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Speaker 4: Thank you, I get married young. Ed's all, Charlie, is

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Speaker 6: So which is unpresented?

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Speaker 5: The prosecutors ask for one year imprisonment and this this

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Speaker 4: How many pastors like your dad are imprisoned in Korea

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Speaker 5: None? Because my father is the most vocal one and

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Speaker 5: So in May, my father's Cigaret Church and our home

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Speaker 5: To share a little bit more so the first three weeks,

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Speaker 3: Hm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: So is this a is this a big news story

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Speaker 5: Yes, So a lot of Christians are raising their voices

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Speaker 6: They want to add something and Korea legacy media. They

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Speaker 3: Far right, far right and that one before.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and personally, personally, we are receiving receiving a lots

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hm hm wow.

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Speaker 2: I'm just do you get Yeah, I'm just thinking of

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Speaker 2: it's very it's it's hugely upsetting you. You're a pastor

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Speaker 5: to speak out for your father. So We've been praying

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well for you guys, have you faced any backlash criticism?

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Speaker 4: And also do you get do you have people receive

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Speaker 5: A lot better in America because I feel like this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, actually lots of thought Koreans. They are threatened by

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Speaker 5: Uh. And we are actually being mocked a lot on

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Speaker 5: And what I even said on social media. Is he's

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Speaker 6: Of the noises. Good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, rejoice in your sufferings. But I'm so sorry

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Speaker 4: is like I left him with one sentence, and like

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Speaker 4: that's all they deserve. They deserve one sentence, Like, you

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Speaker 2: And this is a place where we should have leverage.

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Speaker 2: There are thirty thousand US troops in Korea, Yes, spend

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Speaker 3: Troops there, yeah, don't arrest pastors things. Well, well I

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Speaker 4: Think you guys love MacArthur of course, okay, so respected.

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Speaker 3: So we stopped.

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Speaker 4: Charlie wanted to see the MacArthur's statue. But you talk

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Speaker 4: gratitude for America, and so I like, this is where

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Speaker 4: Americans can come in and leverage that gratitude that Koreans have,

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Speaker 4: because it only goes so far. You start arresting pastors

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Speaker 4: and you start betraying the values that connect us.

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Speaker 3: I don't I.

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Speaker 4: Don't really foresee us being friends allies. And also we

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Speaker 4: have thirty thousand troops there, yea, and the least you

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Speaker 4: guys could do.

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Speaker 2: One thing I found very moving. I went to they

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Speaker 2: have a museum and memorial to the Korean War, and

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Speaker 2: they have much like our Vietnam memorial has all the

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Speaker 2: names of the soldiers who died in Vietnam. They have

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Speaker 2: that and they have it for all the Korean soldiers

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Speaker 2: who died, but also for all of the American soldiers

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Speaker 2: who died and any other countries. Yeah that fought as

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Speaker 2: part of that coalition.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually think this. I want to ask you

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Speaker 4: about this too, because I think it's even scarier that

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Speaker 4: this is. Like step one for Korea in the Korean

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Speaker 4: government is like, oh, arrest the pastors that say that

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Speaker 4: thirty percent of your hiring load in the government should

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Speaker 4: be gay.

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Speaker 3: Like, let's do that.

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Speaker 4: Let's arrest them. But you're seeing people get elected in

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Speaker 4: Korea right now who are North Korea sympathizers, and they

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Speaker 4: want to see a unified Korea. That's what they call it, right,

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Speaker 4: unified Korea.

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Speaker 3: Blake, Oh, I think all Koreans want to unify Korea

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Speaker 3: by whom, by whom exactly.

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Speaker 4: But I think this is super dangerous for you guys,

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Speaker 4: the trajectory you're you're on, and I think that America

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Speaker 4: could definitely leverage the power and influence that we have

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Speaker 4: in that country.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, was it?

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Speaker 4: Do you want to read that?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to do?

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Speaker 5: You want to mention?

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Speaker 6: And one more thing. The current leader of the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 6: Chong Jong Jong. He is a pro terrorist, anti American

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Speaker 6: socialist who set fires to the US embassy when he

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Speaker 6: was young. He was convicted eighties and nineties. He was

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Speaker 6: socialist and he's still his socialist and communist.

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Speaker 4: He brought receipts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So funny thing about you know, so, as Mike said,

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Speaker 5: we Koreans in general, we are deeply, deeply, you know,

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Speaker 5: thankful for America. Going back on hundred and forty years ago,

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Speaker 5: American missionaries came to Korea to you know, basically put faith,

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Speaker 5: you know, rooted Korea. And if you go to the

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Speaker 5: cemetery in yang haajin the missionary symmetry, there are sixty

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Speaker 5: five infant graves because of the poor medical care and

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Speaker 5: also you know, the environments was environment was so bad,

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Speaker 5: so shortly after their birth they have passed away. And

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Speaker 5: that's I believe that that's the heart of America. So

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Speaker 5: we are so thankful. And thirty six thousand American soldiers

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Speaker 5: have died during the Korean War, and we are so thankful.

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Speaker 5: But because of Jeneral MacArthur communism, communists from China, North

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Speaker 5: Korea and Soviet Union, they weren't able to take over

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Speaker 5: the Korean peninsula. They pushed all the way to down

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Speaker 5: to Busan, which is very south city of you know

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Speaker 5: where we're from. And thanks to American soldiers, we were

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Speaker 5: able to secure freedom, get regradated, we liberated. So for

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Speaker 5: the Democrats, this is kind of different to the police

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Speaker 5: Amosphere compared to the US. But for the communist pro

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Speaker 5: China democrats, America's America is the one they took away

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Speaker 5: their country, their communism communists to be country. So that's

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Speaker 5: why they've been protesting against the US and the free countries.

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Speaker 6: Yeah percent.

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Speaker 7: Everyone has a perspective shaped by what they've lived, what

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Speaker 7: they've learned, and what they believe. Charlie always appreciated TikTok

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Speaker 7: because it shared our values of connecting and building community.

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Speaker 7: On TikTok, you can find a teacher discussing math in

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Speaker 7: a way that makes it click, a dad sharing a

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Speaker 7: lifetime of knowledge with his viewers, or a gardener showing

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Speaker 7: how patients and care can turn a patch of dirt

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Speaker 7: into something alive. Ordinary people doing extraordinary things and showing

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Speaker 7: others how it's done. TikTok is a space where voices

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Speaker 7: can find each other, and no voice is too small.

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Speaker 7: That's what's really special about TikTok. Even the quiet voices

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Speaker 7: can hold great wisdom. Unexpected voices can make a big difference.

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Speaker 7: Finding them and sharing your own voice. That's what builds

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Speaker 7: a community, because when everyone has a voice, we can

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Speaker 7: all learn something, and when we all keep learning, we

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Speaker 7: can all move forward. On TikTok, you can find voices

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Speaker 7: worth hearing and stories worth sharing.

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Speaker 1: Portions of our program are sponsored in part by TikTok.

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Speaker 4: Let's do a couple of questions.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go for oh no, I was just I

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Speaker 2: was making sure are we okay on that one?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think so let's open up to some questions and

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Speaker 4: then yeah, if you guys have any just raise your hand.

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Speaker 4: Uh oh, yeah, they're gonna have this. I totally forget

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Speaker 4: about share that one. And we're gonna put up a

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Speaker 4: QR code to help get involved to your dad and

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Speaker 4: it's the petition for his release.

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Speaker 3: So thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna make sure you guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 8: I was just wondering if there are any warning signs

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Speaker 8: came to South Korea that you're seeing now in America

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Speaker 8: that you would want us to be a bullwork against

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Speaker 8: and like stuff you would point out to say like hey,

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Speaker 8: you need to pay attention to that and fight back

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Speaker 8: against it early before you end up like closer to

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Speaker 8: where we are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I can't even imagine what if Kamalae Harris won

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Speaker 5: the election this year last year, and the reason I'm

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Speaker 5: I want to share my father's story and what's happening

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Speaker 5: in South Korea this might, if not, it will come

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Speaker 5: to the US. And this is not about just my father,

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Speaker 5: just one person, but just for us to realize what's

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Speaker 5: a stake and just you know, just like how Charlie

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Speaker 5: and Mikey have been advocating that we should be raising

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Speaker 5: our voices and we should talk about politics because it

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Speaker 5: has been and it will be. It will always affect

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Speaker 5: our lives and our children as well, so we should

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Speaker 5: get involved.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, my question, I guess two of them real quick.

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Speaker 9: First off, as far as South Korea turning turning towards

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Speaker 9: more socialism communism, all we see in the United States

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Speaker 9: is sold and that's just like watching New York, Chicago, La,

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Speaker 9: any big city and it looks like it's a prosperous,

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Speaker 9: fully functioning country. What is the economics in the in

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Speaker 9: the South Korea itself to make people want to go

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Speaker 9: towards the thing that you've got that they just fought

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Speaker 9: a war back in the nineteen fifties to save them from.

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Speaker 9: And then two, what is what? What is how does

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Speaker 9: the Korean society see the male figure? Like here, if

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Speaker 9: you're a white male, your you're pond scum basically, I

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Speaker 9: mean that's how that how society is looks at the

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Speaker 9: white male.

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Speaker 10: Okay?

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Speaker 9: Is that similar to is that what they're doing in

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Speaker 9: in Korea where they're making men feel inferior and raising

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Speaker 9: the women sow up, you gotta you gotta basically worship them.

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Speaker 5: If you want to answer the second question, first second question,

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Speaker 5: first second ahead. So so the first one so, so,

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Speaker 5: the first one wasn't really a question, was it.

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Speaker 10: I mean, what is the climate in the entire peninsula

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Speaker 10: that's making the younger generation go towards socials and communism?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exact, Yeah, yeah, it was a definitely question. Sorry,

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Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not a native speaker.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So education for the last few decades, you know, they

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Speaker 5: leftist have been very successful manipulating the education. So for example,

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Speaker 5: we should we should be aware of the you know,

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Speaker 5: the foundation of you know, how Korea was republic career

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Speaker 5: was established, and they manipulate that it wasn't the establishment

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Speaker 5: of nineteen forty eight. Instead they say it's nineteen nineteen.

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Speaker 5: And they don't teach about how you know, they don't

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Speaker 5: really teach about Christianity right now, and even in public schools,

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Speaker 5: although Christianity by number is the most you know, the

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Speaker 5: most populated religion in Korea is Christianity, and they even

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Speaker 5: call Christianity with different, like weird names we call them,

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Speaker 5: so what we call them usually is kiki in Korean,

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Speaker 5: but on the textbook's as cutest to you, which is

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Speaker 5: like a christ religion, which is not. So you know,

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Speaker 5: they've been basically in control of the textbook at public

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Speaker 5: education and no freedom in education, so no pantro rights,

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Speaker 5: no parantoral rights. What education are their kids that kids

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Speaker 5: will be educated on? So basically that and.

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Speaker 6: Second question and second one is uh, you know, yes,

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Speaker 6: as you see, we are not black, we are not white,

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Speaker 6: but in South Korea all we are yellow yellow yellow,

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Speaker 6: Asian yellow.

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Speaker 5: Sorry okay, sorry, English is not my native language, definitely

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Speaker 5: not my brother Yeah, yeah, Asian.

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Speaker 6: But uh, there is men and women and a lots

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Speaker 6: in South Korea, feminism is prevalent, prevalent feminism. For instance,

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Speaker 6: even in the church, lots of young young women Christians

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Speaker 6: they are a feminist and they if they go to

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Speaker 6: college and university then they become feminist. And South Korea

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Speaker 6: who goes to university ratio is the highest in the

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Speaker 6: world about eighty percent. It means eighty to ninety percent

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Speaker 6: of women or almost all of them go to university

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Speaker 6: and they are.

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Speaker 5: Could you tell about four B movement h ah that

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Speaker 5: Charlie mentioned at the event for b is do not

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Speaker 5: birth and do not get birth, do not get birth,

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Speaker 5: and do not get married.

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Speaker 2: I think it's do not date, do not marry, do

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Speaker 2: not have sex, do not have children, right, super radical feminists.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that is prevalent even in the church.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why the birth rate is so low. And

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Speaker 5: and just like how you said women up there, how

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Speaker 5: we should bow down to the women.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean we are equal, but.

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Speaker 2: In America we have we'll we'll talk about the sex divide,

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Speaker 2: the gender divide that women in America vote significantly more

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Speaker 2: to the left than men do.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And I think America has a pretty large gap compared

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Speaker 2: to the world. But I think Korea is one of

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Speaker 2: the only countries that has an even larger one.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I think America, if I'm not wrong, I think

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Speaker 5: it's like eighty percent for the in there was.

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Speaker 2: A specific story that I think eighty seven percent of

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Speaker 2: young women voted for Mamdannie in the New York mayor race.

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Speaker 2: More generally, I think young Well, the highlight is young

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Speaker 2: unmarried women in America will be like seventy five percent

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Speaker 2: on the left, twenty five percent on the right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Erica actually made that so the they would often say,

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Speaker 4: how kind of the in the black community the government

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Speaker 4: replaced fathers in the home in terms of what they

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Speaker 4: could provide for families, And so now you kind of

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Speaker 4: look at how it shifted.

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Speaker 3: And Erica literally was the first.

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Speaker 4: One to point this out, and I was like, wait,

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Speaker 4: that's kind of mind blowing how the government has now

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Speaker 4: replaced husbands for a lot of women. And so this

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Speaker 4: actually there was something under Obama where he had.

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Speaker 3: This ad, the Life of Julia. Yes, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you guys have seen this.

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Speaker 4: It's literally an ad called the Life of Julia, and

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Speaker 4: it shows this woman progressing throughout her life and how

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Speaker 4: the government aids her throughout her entire life.

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Speaker 2: Is an ad campaign for Obama in twenty twelve for

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Speaker 2: his Real.

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Speaker 4: Life twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: And okay, okay, she's born, the government is giving these programs,

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Speaker 2: have her mom, and then now she's in high school,

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Speaker 2: here's the birth control giving her.

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Speaker 3: And why yeah, well no, no.

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Speaker 4: Back then when that happened, people were like, this is insane.

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Speaker 4: And then now we're like, oh, eighty three percent are

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Speaker 4: voting for mom. Donnie, Okay, Like Life of Julia is

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Speaker 4: now a thing that's really scary to hear any other questions.

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Speaker 6: Guys. Oh right there, Hi guys.

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Speaker 11: My name is Monica, and I just want to say

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Speaker 11: it's so amazing that you guys came here and your

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Speaker 11: story is so You're so bold, it's so courageous. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 11: a lot of the young Christians that I know, I

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Speaker 11: think the extent of being bolts like posting on their

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Speaker 11: social media story and the persecution is losing followers.

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Speaker 7: But I just want to start ask.

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Speaker 6: I just coughed.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I was just wondering if you have any

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Speaker 11: practical advice for young Christians for what you guys have

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Speaker 11: obviously lived out for how to be bold in real life.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we are going through a persecution, but

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Speaker 5: as Christians, I feel like, although you're not going this

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Speaker 5: kind of persecution, we should have you know, we should

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Speaker 5: have empathy for brothers and as sisters in Christ and

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Speaker 5: also as Christians, we are obligated to speak out what

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Speaker 5: God wants us to speak out about the biblical truths

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Speaker 5: that will never change and stick to that. And if

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Speaker 5: you do, I think your view on how you're going

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Speaker 5: to live your life, what you're calling is what your

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Speaker 5: mission is in this temporary life that's going to end

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Speaker 5: really quick. I think it's going to change if you

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Speaker 5: really really believe that. And that has been my personal

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Speaker 5: testimony since COVID lockdown. Looking at my father before that,

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Speaker 5: I wasn't one of the you know, the faithful kids.

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Speaker 5: But my father being persecuted for you know, worshiping God.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 5: He was so lonely. Even among Christians.

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Speaker 3: He was mocked.

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Speaker 5: He said, why don't you love your neighbors, Why don't

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Speaker 5: you just you know, worship God online in pajamas? Didn't

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Speaker 5: make sense. They didn't make any sense to me. And

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Speaker 5: ever since then, I changed my way of viewing things.

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Speaker 5: Discerning things, of course, I like a lot, but I

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Speaker 5: go back to Bible. I go back to what God

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Speaker 5: has told us to do. God told us through scripture,

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Speaker 5: and that has changed my life. And I really hope

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Speaker 5: we change. We Yeah, we change reborn in Christ.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Anyone else we have a few one more, if anyone's

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Speaker 2: got one, Uh yeah, I see one right there. We

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Speaker 2: have a bit of time because our last one is delayed,

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Speaker 2: so for His Lord.

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Speaker 12: So my name is Caylin, and I was just wondering, Well,

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Speaker 12: first of all, thank you for sharing your story here,

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Speaker 12: but also you kind of were talking about, you know,

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Speaker 12: the warning to America, and I just want to know

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Speaker 12: from an outsider's perspective. I think I just want to

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Speaker 12: know what your thoughts are on America as a whole,

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Speaker 12: because I think so often in America there's this like

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Speaker 12: infighting of like us not being a good country, and

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Speaker 12: you know that we need to you know, make people leave.

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Speaker 12: And I'm talking more from the left side, is that

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Speaker 12: you know, we're this horrendous country and that we just

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Speaker 12: need to like let everyone in. But from an outsider's perspective,

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Speaker 12: I just wanted to know kind of how you guys

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Speaker 12: see America, Like, are we a beacon of light in

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Speaker 12: any capacity?

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 5: I mean, so I went to school in Seattle for

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Speaker 5: high school and college, and you know that's a blue state,

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Speaker 5: of course, and I was almost forced to think that

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Speaker 5: America is a bad country. And and you might think

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Speaker 5: that if you were in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was manipulated.

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Speaker 5: I I was getting brainwashed. But thank god I have

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Speaker 5: faith and I had my brother and my family, and

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Speaker 5: simply that's a lie. Of course, America is not perfect.

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Speaker 5: I'm not perfect, No, one's perfect, right, and we might

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Speaker 5: or America could make some mistakes. Of course, it's not

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Speaker 5: perfect because it's not God, you know. But that's a lie,

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Speaker 5: just like how there has been a misconcept of separation

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Speaker 5: between church and state. There's a lie. That's a lie

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Speaker 5: that America is bad. You don't think of the good

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Speaker 5: side how America. You know, there are one hundred and

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Speaker 5: forty years ago, as I said earlier, American missionaries basically changed.

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Speaker 5: So when you look at the when you look at

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Speaker 5: the Korean peninsula at night, you can google it. There's

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Speaker 5: a light in South Korea all over the country and

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Speaker 5: North Korea, none except one city, Pyongyang, where the rocommend

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Speaker 5: lives recommend that President Trump calls. So yeah, so please

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Speaker 5: don't get manipulated and be courageous and be thankful that

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Speaker 5: you're an American because you know, free speech, freedom, religious freedom,

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Speaker 5: being able to say what you want and not get

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Speaker 5: in prison for that. It's a blessing. It is blessing.

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Speaker 5: Don't take it for granted. And you guys are doing great.

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Speaker 6: I think there were no America then. Howard was already

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Speaker 6: a communism. Communism I think, amen, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so much. To both of your life.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you guys so much for being here. Right

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Speaker 4: before we close, can you tell us how we can

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Speaker 4: be praying specifically for both of you guys and for

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Speaker 4: your dad.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So Mikey mentioned about the petition and I think

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Speaker 5: we're going to have to cure code up. That is true,

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Speaker 5: were raise awareness in America what could happen in the

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Speaker 5: US and for us, Please pray for our career courage

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Speaker 5: to keep fighting this fight because we believe and we

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Speaker 5: know that God has already won the battle.

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Speaker 6: But we have to be faithful just to fight.

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Speaker 5: So for not only our family but Christians in Korea

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Speaker 5: to believe that, and if you believe that, you will

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Speaker 5: act upon it. So for us to be courageous and

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Speaker 5: to for God's kingdom, not the government.

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Speaker 6: And we are we are, We have lots of hope.

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Speaker 6: Actually we are hope hopeful because everything is done, everything

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Speaker 6: is allowed by God. God is the God is the

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Speaker 6: Lord of everything. And I think God is awakening waking

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Speaker 6: up South Korea, Korean church and even I think American now,

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Speaker 6: Uh so uh don't don't don't worry everybody and God

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Speaker 6: is working Yeah for the Lord.

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Speaker 3: Halleluja.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys, all right, thank you, thank you, don't

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