1 00:00:02,670 --> 00:00:20,270 Speaker 1: Life Audio Hey friend, ever felt like your mind is 2 00:00:20,430 --> 00:00:26,210 Speaker 1: always working on something and it's hard to turn it off? Well, 3 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:28,710 Speaker 1: you're not the only one. Today, we're going to explore 4 00:00:28,750 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: the science of mental rest and why sometimes we need 5 00:00:33,380 --> 00:00:38,420 Speaker 1: to stop analyzing, optimizing everything so that we can give 6 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,950 Speaker 1: our hearts, our emotions, and our bodies the space to 7 00:00:42,190 --> 00:00:48,490 Speaker 1: actually rest and feel peaceful. And we're going to see 8 00:00:48,570 --> 00:00:53,580 Speaker 1: how scripture invites us to experience God in the quiet space. 9 00:00:54,270 --> 00:00:56,450 Speaker 1: so that we don't have to just stress all the 10 00:00:56,490 --> 00:01:01,550 Speaker 1: time about what's ahead or what could happen. Well, friend, 11 00:01:01,610 --> 00:01:05,550 Speaker 1: welcome to Breathe, the Stress Less Podcast. I'm your host, 12 00:01:05,650 --> 00:01:08,850 Speaker 1: Bonnie Gray. I'm a Soul Care Mentor, and I'm the 13 00:01:08,890 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: best-selling author of Breathe, 21 Days to Stress Less and 14 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: Transform Chaos to Calm. This fall, we are continuing our 15 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Science and Scripture Wellness Series, where we are exploring... one 16 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:27,819 Speaker 1: question together. What does science tell us about how God 17 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,539 Speaker 1: designed our nervous systems, our emotions, and how does scripture 18 00:01:32,620 --> 00:01:36,740 Speaker 1: help us live out wellness? Today, we're going to talk 19 00:01:36,780 --> 00:01:40,060 Speaker 1: about what happens when your mind just keeps working, even 20 00:01:40,140 --> 00:01:42,970 Speaker 1: when you're supposed to be resting and you want to rest. 21 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:48,110 Speaker 1: You know, we often think that rest means stopping physical activity, 22 00:01:48,590 --> 00:01:52,370 Speaker 1: but our bodies can stop while we see our mind's 23 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: keep working over time. We keep thinking, what does this mean? 24 00:01:57,660 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: What am I learning? What should I do next? How 25 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:06,500 Speaker 1: can I improve this? Even healthy things can become something 26 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,500 Speaker 1: else to optimize, produce, or figure out. So what happens 27 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,310 Speaker 1: when something that once helped us, you know, that optimization 28 00:02:15,350 --> 00:02:20,350 Speaker 1: loop begins to feel like mental work, rumination, where we 29 00:02:20,389 --> 00:02:24,620 Speaker 1: can't turn it off. This is a stressor I've noticed 30 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,970 Speaker 1: in my own thought life lately, and I'm going to 31 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,930 Speaker 1: share what's been helping me and what I've been learning 32 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:36,250 Speaker 1: about God and wellness with you. Now, before we dive in, 33 00:02:36,330 --> 00:02:38,450 Speaker 1: I want to invite you to consider picking up a 34 00:02:38,490 --> 00:02:42,649 Speaker 1: copy of my book, Whispers of Rest. Do you like 35 00:02:42,690 --> 00:02:48,300 Speaker 1: that title? Whispers of Rest is taken from that wonderful, 36 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: beautiful passage where Elijah doesn't hear God in the fire, 37 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: but he hears God in the quiet whispers. And there's 38 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,810 Speaker 1: 40 days of God's love to revitalize your soul. This 39 00:03:00,889 --> 00:03:04,910 Speaker 1: is 40 days devotional where you can take the 40 40 00:03:04,910 --> 00:03:10,090 Speaker 1: most powerful scriptures to help calm your anxiety and bring 41 00:03:10,130 --> 00:03:14,370 Speaker 1: calm to your soul, your emotions through scripture and science. 42 00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:18,150 Speaker 1: And so I hope you'll consider picking this book up 43 00:03:18,190 --> 00:03:20,389 Speaker 1: to encourage your heart. And I'll leave a link so 44 00:03:20,430 --> 00:03:23,430 Speaker 1: you can check it out. And we'll be right back. 45 00:03:38,150 --> 00:03:41,730 Speaker 1: Our breath prayer comes to us from a beautiful scripture. 46 00:03:42,140 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: A beautiful invitation from Psalm 4610. Be still and know 47 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:54,340 Speaker 1: that I am God. Just allow your shoulders to relax. 48 00:03:54,720 --> 00:04:00,559 Speaker 1: Relax your hands. Just gently take a deep breath and 49 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:10,090 Speaker 1: exhale and inhale. Be still. Exhale and know that you 50 00:04:10,210 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: are God. Again, inhale, be still, and exhale, and know 51 00:04:18,140 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: that you are God. Friend, all things are in God's hands. 52 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: You are in God's hands. Just open your hands and 53 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,969 Speaker 1: allow yourself to reach for Jesus' embrace. He's opening his 54 00:04:35,130 --> 00:04:43,339 Speaker 1: arms just to draw you close to him. And simply rest. Well, friend, 55 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,859 Speaker 1: yesterday I opened my journal again. What made this moment 56 00:04:49,220 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: unusual is that I haven't journaled for almost 10 months. 57 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:57,500 Speaker 1: At the beginning of this year, I began a sabbatical 58 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,989 Speaker 1: from my work and ministry. And it wasn't because I 59 00:05:02,060 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: had some problem with I just simply reached a major 60 00:05:06,220 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: life transition. After years of writing books, I wrote four 61 00:05:11,060 --> 00:05:15,169 Speaker 1: books within 10 years and teaching soul care school, my 62 00:05:15,290 --> 00:05:19,750 Speaker 1: younger son, Caleb, will soon be heading to college next year. 63 00:05:20,370 --> 00:05:24,510 Speaker 1: And I could just see the empty nest season approaching. 64 00:05:25,210 --> 00:05:28,250 Speaker 1: And so I just wanted to ask God, actually, I 65 00:05:28,270 --> 00:05:31,890 Speaker 1: have pretty big questions. What do I want to do 66 00:05:32,029 --> 00:05:35,250 Speaker 1: in this next season of my life? You know, it's 67 00:05:35,310 --> 00:05:39,450 Speaker 1: a really big transition. And you know what's interesting? I 68 00:05:39,490 --> 00:05:43,950 Speaker 1: decided in my sabbatical that I didn't want this to 69 00:05:43,990 --> 00:05:49,620 Speaker 1: become another project called figure out your next purpose. Even 70 00:05:49,630 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: though I had stopped working to create that space to 71 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: listen to God, I noticed something surprising. My mind didn't 72 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:03,380 Speaker 1: stop working. My mind, my thoughts were still ruminating, analyzing, optimizing. 73 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: And I started calling it my optimization loop. I don't 74 00:06:08,860 --> 00:06:11,370 Speaker 1: know if you have that, but it was so apparent, 75 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,190 Speaker 1: even though I stopped all my work, I could see 76 00:06:13,230 --> 00:06:16,969 Speaker 1: my brain kept returning to these really big questions that 77 00:06:17,130 --> 00:06:21,150 Speaker 1: I actually knew time could only answer. Do you ever 78 00:06:21,230 --> 00:06:24,710 Speaker 1: feel that way? These are some of my thoughts. I 79 00:06:24,750 --> 00:06:27,550 Speaker 1: need to figure out what all this means. I need 80 00:06:27,589 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: to decide what I'm supposed to do next. Or I 81 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,140 Speaker 1: need to understand why I'm feeling this way. It's like 82 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,750 Speaker 1: I'm constantly trying to process everything and I realize that 83 00:06:39,490 --> 00:06:44,030 Speaker 1: it just becomes this unending analysis and my thoughts are 84 00:06:44,089 --> 00:06:49,549 Speaker 1: not at rest. Well, here's the thing, journaling started becoming 85 00:06:49,670 --> 00:06:54,050 Speaker 1: more like analysis and prayer became more of a problem-solving 86 00:06:54,290 --> 00:06:58,630 Speaker 1: type of time with God. And Bible reading turned into 87 00:06:58,670 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: this constantly trying to extract lessons to learn. Even as 88 00:07:03,660 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: I was trying to walk, I was like, wait, how 89 00:07:05,339 --> 00:07:08,219 Speaker 1: many steps did I take? And if I tried to, 90 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,930 Speaker 1: you know, relax and do a hobby, I'd be like, hey, 91 00:07:10,990 --> 00:07:13,770 Speaker 1: am I getting better at this And I started noticing 92 00:07:13,810 --> 00:07:15,750 Speaker 1: that within myself. And that's why I call it the 93 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,780 Speaker 1: optimization loop. I need to stop optimizing. Sometimes wellness isn't 94 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,420 Speaker 1: about processing our experiences better. Sometimes we need permission to 95 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,610 Speaker 1: just stop. We need a mental rest. Things I stopped 96 00:07:30,670 --> 00:07:35,110 Speaker 1: doing was journaling. I love journaling. I've journaled since I 97 00:07:35,130 --> 00:07:37,890 Speaker 1: was a little girl. But somewhere along the way, It 98 00:07:37,950 --> 00:07:41,030 Speaker 1: had become another place where I was always optimizing. I 99 00:07:41,070 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: was always asking as I was journaling, hey, what's the lesson? 100 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,020 Speaker 1: What's next? Could this be something I can use or 101 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: teach later? I found myself trying to mine my experiences 102 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,420 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to mine anymore. Even my time 103 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: with God began to change as I decided I'm not 104 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,190 Speaker 1: going to try to extract things. I started reading scripture 105 00:08:04,310 --> 00:08:07,550 Speaker 1: without asking what I could teach from it. I just 106 00:08:07,570 --> 00:08:11,970 Speaker 1: simply enjoyed the story. I started reading the Bible as 107 00:08:12,250 --> 00:08:15,150 Speaker 1: listening to God telling me his story as a narrative. 108 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:18,030 Speaker 1: And I would notice the metaphors. I would notice the 109 00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:21,670 Speaker 1: beauty of the words. And I would focus in on thinking, 110 00:08:21,750 --> 00:08:26,430 Speaker 1: what did Jesus experience? How he might have felt? And 111 00:08:26,470 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: I began picturing myself more like a flower opening its 112 00:08:29,980 --> 00:08:35,059 Speaker 1: petals towards the sunlight. The flower isn't analyzing the sunlight, right? 113 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: The flower is just opening up to it, receiving the 114 00:08:38,620 --> 00:08:41,620 Speaker 1: warmth of the sunlight. And that's how I wanted to 115 00:08:41,660 --> 00:08:46,089 Speaker 1: come before God, just open, present, and just receiving his 116 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:51,220 Speaker 1: companionship and his love. And I began realizing something. I 117 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,900 Speaker 1: often experience Jesus most when I stop optimizing long enough 118 00:08:55,940 --> 00:09:00,540 Speaker 1: to notice what really touches my soul. So when I 119 00:09:00,620 --> 00:09:05,849 Speaker 1: started to just rest more in receiving whatever God wanted 120 00:09:05,870 --> 00:09:09,910 Speaker 1: to give me, I started noticing really simple things again. 121 00:09:10,610 --> 00:09:13,490 Speaker 1: Like what flowers did I enjoy having in my home? 122 00:09:14,530 --> 00:09:18,500 Speaker 1: What music would bring me peace? Who did I want 123 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,699 Speaker 1: to have lunch with or want to meet up with 124 00:09:21,059 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: for coffee? What might I enjoy learning? Simply because it 125 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,310 Speaker 1: would be fun to be a beginner again. And so 126 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:32,410 Speaker 1: now here 10 months later, it surprised me. I wanted 127 00:09:32,450 --> 00:09:37,330 Speaker 1: to journal again. Except this time, I didn't journal to 128 00:09:37,470 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: try to produce an answer. I just simply wanted to 129 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: enjoy words and to share my heart with God. I 130 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:47,449 Speaker 1: was returning to back to journaling the way I had 131 00:09:47,550 --> 00:09:50,699 Speaker 1: once enjoyed it as a little girl. It just wasn't work. 132 00:09:51,059 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: It was just something I experienced. And that's one thing 133 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,949 Speaker 1: I learned. Sometimes to quiet the optimization loop is to 134 00:09:59,010 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: actually stop feeding it, is to lay down an activity 135 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,390 Speaker 1: that keeps your mind analyzing, extracting, and trying to figure 136 00:10:07,690 --> 00:10:12,290 Speaker 1: everything out. But it's not just stopping an activity, but 137 00:10:12,309 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: it's also filling your time. with something you can experience 138 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,050 Speaker 1: that feels good to you, the way God designed you 139 00:10:21,690 --> 00:10:28,930 Speaker 1: to receive beauty, peace, curiosity, joy, and connection. Those are 140 00:10:28,950 --> 00:10:31,250 Speaker 1: the things that keep our hearts open and help us 141 00:10:31,429 --> 00:10:35,140 Speaker 1: to come alive. And that's what brings me to today's 142 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: breath prayer scripture, Psalm 46. Be still and know that 143 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,420 Speaker 1: I am God. Many times we read that verse and 144 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: we think be still means to don't do anything, don't move. 145 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:53,380 Speaker 1: But actually, to know God, that Hebrew word is yada. 146 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: It's a word scripture uses for an experience. That knowing 147 00:10:58,620 --> 00:11:03,660 Speaker 1: is not intellectual. It's experiential. It's personal and it's relational. 148 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: It's the same Hebrew verb used in Genesis when Adam, 149 00:11:08,220 --> 00:11:14,140 Speaker 1: quote unquote, knew Eve and she conceived. So when Scripture 150 00:11:14,179 --> 00:11:19,250 Speaker 1: invites us to be still and know that God is God, 151 00:11:19,970 --> 00:11:22,109 Speaker 1: in other words, you can think of it as be 152 00:11:22,210 --> 00:11:28,850 Speaker 1: still and experience that God is with you. Experience what 153 00:11:28,910 --> 00:11:32,330 Speaker 1: it means to be with God through peace and joy. 154 00:11:32,970 --> 00:11:40,090 Speaker 1: So stillness is an experience that's personal to you. Psalm 155 00:11:40,090 --> 00:11:43,810 Speaker 1: 1 also gives us a beautiful picture. A tree planted 156 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:48,150 Speaker 1: by streams of water. And so I love thinking about that. 157 00:11:48,429 --> 00:11:52,770 Speaker 1: Whatever comes by in that stream, it'll replenish its roots, 158 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:57,300 Speaker 1: replenish the soil so it can bear fruit. So being 159 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: like a tree planted by water with God's word, it's 160 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:06,179 Speaker 1: just simply being available to experience God the way that 161 00:12:06,260 --> 00:12:10,730 Speaker 1: feels best to you. that touches your heart. So friend, 162 00:12:10,770 --> 00:12:14,820 Speaker 1: how about you? What brings beauty to your heart? What 163 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: awakens your curiosity? What helps you feel joy, peace, wonder, 164 00:12:20,660 --> 00:12:23,380 Speaker 1: or delight? And now when we come back, we're going 165 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,140 Speaker 1: to look at what science says about why our minds 166 00:12:26,420 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: need periods when they're no longer working on a problem. 167 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:44,510 Speaker 1: And we'll be right back. Well, researchers actually have a 168 00:12:44,610 --> 00:12:50,610 Speaker 1: term that helps explain this need for mental rest. It's 169 00:12:50,670 --> 00:12:58,130 Speaker 1: called psychological detachment. Psychological detachment doesn't mean becoming emotionally detached 170 00:12:58,290 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: from your life. It means allowing your mind periods when 171 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: it's no longer actively working on a demand. You're not 172 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,260 Speaker 1: trying to solve a problem. You're not rehearsing it or 173 00:13:09,380 --> 00:13:13,929 Speaker 1: analyzing it. Researchers have studied this. They found that greater 174 00:13:14,050 --> 00:13:19,650 Speaker 1: psychological detachment is associated with less exhaustion and fatigue, better sleep, 175 00:13:19,870 --> 00:13:23,710 Speaker 1: greater life satisfaction, and allowing more positive emotion to come 176 00:13:23,770 --> 00:13:27,290 Speaker 1: into your heart, and a stronger sense of recovery from stress. 177 00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:31,890 Speaker 1: That's so important. What is your mind working overtime on? 178 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,980 Speaker 1: That leads me to this week's challenge for soul care. 179 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,020 Speaker 1: I want you to ask yourself two questions. The first 180 00:13:41,059 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: question is, is there something I need to stop doing 181 00:13:44,540 --> 00:13:48,100 Speaker 1: for a season? Putting a pause on it because you're 182 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,750 Speaker 1: finding yourself constantly trying to optimize or overthink things. And 183 00:13:53,790 --> 00:13:57,870 Speaker 1: it can have started with something good, like in my case, journaling, 184 00:13:58,510 --> 00:14:06,030 Speaker 1: maybe tracking your wellness or planning, researching, studying, organizing. Even 185 00:14:06,190 --> 00:14:09,970 Speaker 1: if it might appear to be a spiritual practice, but 186 00:14:10,030 --> 00:14:14,930 Speaker 1: it's leaving you feel fatigued, feeling guilty, or not good enough. 187 00:14:15,250 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: Somewhere along the way, it became a burden. Another place 188 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,020 Speaker 1: where you feel you have to produce something. What if 189 00:14:23,060 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: you gave yourself permission to just pause it for a season? 190 00:14:27,260 --> 00:14:29,340 Speaker 1: Just like I came back to journaling, but sometimes it 191 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,660 Speaker 1: requires laying down something in order to help us discover 192 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: what it is we need more. for our emotions and 193 00:14:36,420 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: our body. The second question is, what is one experience 194 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: this week that you can do or enjoy that brings 195 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: you peace, beauty, comfort, or calm? And it doesn't have 196 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:54,890 Speaker 1: to serve any other purpose other than God designed you 197 00:14:55,610 --> 00:15:00,489 Speaker 1: to experience rest and his peaceful presence that way. It 198 00:15:00,510 --> 00:15:03,330 Speaker 1: could be listening to a song you love, reading a scripture, 199 00:15:04,130 --> 00:15:07,310 Speaker 1: crafting or doing something with your hands that he had 200 00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:12,140 Speaker 1: designed you to enjoy. Arranging some flowers, taking a walk 201 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: without tracking how many steps you're taking, or writing words 202 00:15:16,140 --> 00:15:19,780 Speaker 1: just because you enjoy them, or sitting quietly with a friend. 203 00:15:20,580 --> 00:15:22,750 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is for you, but I 204 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,050 Speaker 1: encourage you to open your heart to notice, feel, experience, 205 00:15:27,190 --> 00:15:32,900 Speaker 1: and receive what God has for you. Let's pray. Dear Jesus, 206 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,870 Speaker 1: thank you that we don't have to understand everything in 207 00:15:36,070 --> 00:15:40,030 Speaker 1: order to be held by you. We don't have to 208 00:15:40,090 --> 00:15:43,710 Speaker 1: solve all our problems because you are there in our tomorrows. 209 00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:47,970 Speaker 1: You hold our hand and you hold our tomorrows. Show 210 00:15:48,050 --> 00:15:51,430 Speaker 1: me where my mind has been working over time, trying 211 00:15:51,450 --> 00:15:56,030 Speaker 1: to produce, optimize, or analyze, or solve. Then give me 212 00:15:56,090 --> 00:15:58,990 Speaker 1: wisdom to know how I can lay it down for 213 00:15:59,010 --> 00:16:01,770 Speaker 1: a season. And help me open my heart to you 214 00:16:01,970 --> 00:16:05,750 Speaker 1: like a flower opening its petals to sunlight. Help me 215 00:16:05,790 --> 00:16:10,630 Speaker 1: to experience your companionship, your beauty, your love, and help 216 00:16:10,650 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: me to receive your peace. In Jesus' name, amen. Well, friend, 217 00:16:17,010 --> 00:16:19,580 Speaker 1: if today's episode has encouraged you, would you share with 218 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,580 Speaker 1: a friend? I'd love to also ask a favor. Would 219 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,380 Speaker 1: you leave a rating or review? It would just bless 220 00:16:26,420 --> 00:16:30,190 Speaker 1: my heart because together we can really place this great 221 00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:33,010 Speaker 1: news of soul care into new hands and new hearts 222 00:16:33,190 --> 00:16:36,490 Speaker 1: for new listeners. Thank you so much for your help 223 00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:39,630 Speaker 1: in this ministry as we continue to walk with Jesus. 224 00:16:40,430 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: And come on and say hello over on Instagram at TheBonnieGray. 225 00:16:44,660 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: Until next time, remember you're loved, you're cherished. 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