1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the Out of Zion podcast and I'm 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: your host, doctor Susan Michael, and I am here with 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: a new friend and colleague, Darn Kadar, who is a 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: member of the Israeli Defense Forces Special Forces, and so 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 2: we're going to talk today a little bit about his 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: unique role there with the IDEF and a few of 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: the projects that he's working on. 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 3: Let's take a break and hear a message from one 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: of our sponsors. Welcome to the Israel Answer Series, Connecting 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: Israel the Bible, and you join Susan Michael as she 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: explores timely issues and current events from a scriptural perspective 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 3: to equip the Christian world with a balance and biblical 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: response b searchies. 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: So, Daron, thank you for being with us today. And 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: first i'd really like you just to tell a little 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: bit about your background, your how you grew up, how 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: you ended up in the Special Forces, and that formed 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: who you are. Yeah. 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 1: Well, the short story of it is that my father 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: was a War two that Farld War two. He became 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: a US contractor in Israel, and actually that's how my 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: family and I ended up in Israel. The rest of 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: my family are from the United States. So we were 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: born and raised in Israel. I grew up in northern 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Israel and Upper Galilee bordering Lebanon, and I grew up basically, 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I grew up under conflict. I grew up unlike most 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: Israelis kind of like today, the conflict is in Gaza 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: and the surrounding Gaza envelope. But we were the Gaza 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: envelope of the seventies, the eighties, the nineties, with constant 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: rocket attacks from Lebanon. And so that was my upbringing 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: is being raised in conflict, and that, I would say, 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: is kind of what led me into being a defender, 34 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: wanting to go fight back the enemy that's constantly taken 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: advantage of the people, the israellies on the other side 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: here that are constantly being bombarded by terror attacks. And 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: it was my pursuit to end up in these really 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: special forces. I started actually in the Southern Command in 39 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: my service in two thousand and three and have been 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: fighting in most of Israel's wars since two thousand and three, 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: including the current war. In twenty seventeen. Is actually when 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: I transitioned into special forces. I start there and I 43 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: got into a special mobility unit and this is actually 44 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: the game changer in this current war, which we had 45 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: lacking in two thousand and six. So one of the 46 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: important game changers and strategies that was learned from the 47 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: Second Lebanon War is what we actually got to contribute 48 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: to this current war. And this is one of the 49 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: biggest game changes. Actually naming the mobility special mobility units. 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, can you elaborate what that is? 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: Simply put so, in two thousand and six, you had 52 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: soldiers behind enemy lines for let's say three days, and 53 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: they're already losing water, food, their ammunition is depleting wounded 54 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: soldiers behind enemy lines. They basically were in a standstill 55 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: and in a very very desperate and dire situation because 56 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: the logistics of getting resupplies, getting soldiers out of harm's way, 57 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: and getting them to a medical evacuation from the hot 58 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: zone was too dangerous and not possible because we weren't 59 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: set up for that yet in the military. So my 60 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: commander was one of the leaders in standing up the 61 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: response to that and creating special mobility teams. They can 62 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: do medical services, they can do resupply services, troop movements, 63 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: et cetera. So that's essentially what I ended up being 64 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: taking part of in twenty seventeen and had the privilege 65 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: of doing that active in this current war in the 66 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: past two years. 67 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: Now. 68 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: You said your father was from the United States and 69 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: he wasn't. 70 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: Jewish Jewish, no, no, So he is a Christian Zionist actually, 71 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: and your mother, my mother was Catholic. Actually, yes, ma'am, no, no, no, no. 72 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: So both sides of my parents came from Christian background. 73 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: My dad was a lover of Zion, lover of Israel. 74 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: My mom grew up in a Catholic home, not so 75 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: much so she came to Israel with my dad, agreed 76 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: to go with him, and it was really his love 77 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: for Israel that drew them as a couple. 78 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: So you were raised in a Christian home, So you're 79 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: Israeli because we were born in Israel. 80 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: Correct. 81 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: Interesting, So tell us a little bit about you know, 82 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: your you just talked about your fighting in the recent 83 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: cause of war. 84 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: But you were able to really. 85 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: See with your eyes and understand that Israel was not 86 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: committing genocide. But yet this is just such a common 87 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: accusation against Israel. They're committing genocide. Can you kind of 88 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: unpack that for us? Why are they being accused of 89 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: that and what was really the situation. 90 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: So the sad reality is that you know, many Christians 91 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: around the world said never again concerning the Holocaust, will 92 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: never stand idly by when Jewish people come under attack 93 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: by demonic forces, just to call it that, right in 94 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: a broad stroke. I'm not going to name names of movements, organizations, 95 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: Islamic terrorists or or or or the far right or whatever. 96 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It's all demonic, in my opinion, demonic 97 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: forces coming against God chosen people. And the Church said 98 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: we wouldn't do that again, especially the Protestants, right, and 99 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: here we are in my lifetime. I thought I would 100 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: never witness a repeat of history where the Church has 101 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: stood by silently. Many Christians actually condemned Israel when we 102 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: retaliated against the terrorists and went back to and went 103 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: to go get a hostages. Really, I mean, that's the missions. 104 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: That was the main reason why myself and all the 105 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: other soldiers were deployed, was to get a hostages number one. 106 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: So number two, restore peace and security for our country 107 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: and disarmed Hamas in the process of doing so, so 108 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: that we don't end up in a repeat of where 109 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: the terrorists have that military capability to attack us like 110 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: they did in October seven. And I think what people 111 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: don't understand is October seven wasn't a Bandai attack. It 112 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: wasn't a terror attack on a bunch of innocent people 113 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: at a nature festival party. It was an invasion. We 114 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: had seven thousand terrifts that invaded Israel from Gaza, from 115 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: multiple breaching points of the Gaza border into Israel, spreading 116 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: a murder, terror and all sorts of evil. 117 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: And half of them were what percentage were civilians and about. 118 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: Were civilians, that's right. Half of them were not trained. 119 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: They were not They didn't have a mission plan like 120 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: the other terrorists did. They had names of people of 121 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: where they lived, how many kids, do they have a dog, 122 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: do they have a gun, et cetera, so very detailed 123 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: missions that the Nuba terras had and so on. But yeah, 124 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: half of those about were just regular civilians of Gaza 125 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: who carried out these murders and atrocities. And so crazily enough, 126 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: when we retaliated to this evil to defend ourselves, literally 127 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: defend ourselves, I left my wife and kids at home 128 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: defenseless to go fight on October seven. So if the 129 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: Terrists ended up in my house. I would have been 130 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: one of those victims of October seven, unfortunately, because I'm 131 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: fighting to defend my country collectively. The reason why we 132 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: got accused of war crimes because that is the tactics 133 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: of Terras. And the sad truth is, like I said 134 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: here earlier, that the Church by and large has been 135 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: silent or indifferent, contrary to what Bonhaffer warned the Church 136 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: of And then many others who claimed to be Christians 137 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: use and not I mean, let's be real, Tucker Cross 138 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: is not a real Christian. I mean, just to use 139 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: a name of one of the pundits who's claiming on 140 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: the name of Christianity to oppose Israel and to condemn Israel. 141 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: And I was at Amphes where he spoke, and I 142 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: heard him that night claiming that we committed war crimes. 143 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: The very next morning, I had an open mic with 144 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: Generation Zion, by the way, great organization that's combating the 145 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: misinformation war from the Christian world, and they graciously gave 146 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: me thirty minutes to be there to answer questions to 147 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: anybody who came up to the mic and wanted to 148 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: ask of war crimes or whatever. And I opened up 149 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: saying Tucker Cross and last night lied and I'll tell 150 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: you why. And so it's not an attack against him, 151 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: and it's an attack against those who are taking this 152 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: side what it really is. It's a battleful truth. And 153 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: we need to be aware that what people have done 154 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: is they have fallen for what's known as dawa. Dawa 155 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: is an Islamic tactic. It's some of you have known 156 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: of takia, you've heard you know, you can be lied 157 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: to in the name of Islam. But dawa is actually 158 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: the disinformation war. It's the propaganda war that is basically 159 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: the silent jihad to be able to achieve their goals 160 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: of the caliphate, domination and domination. And so they're using 161 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: useful idiots like Tucker and friends. And that's what you're becoming. 162 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: You're becoming a useful idiot of these terrorists who are 163 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: feeding you misinformation. You take it for granted, because where 164 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: do they get the information from? Because that's the question 165 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: people need to be asking, and really where it comes 166 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: from is Qatar. Qatar are the number one funders of 167 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: the disinformation war who fun and stood up Al Jazeerra 168 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: So Al Jazeera is the main source of information that 169 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: all news networks in the world when reporting on the 170 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: Middle East and specifically Israel, glean their information from. They 171 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: don't get it from reporters on the ground in Israel. 172 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: I've seen the reporters. I've done security for many of 173 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: the big names. I won't say who my clients were, 174 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: but I've done it because I've done executive protection for 175 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: many years and many of them been my clients where 176 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: I stand there next to them as they're bull faced 177 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: lying to their audience and giving disinformation because they're not 178 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: in the field. Really, they're not gleaning the information for real. 179 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: They're just regurgitating what Al Jazeera tells them. So that 180 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: is why, because people can say, well, drown, you're just 181 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're saying one thing, but everyone else 182 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: is saying the other thing, so so why should we 183 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: believe you? And yeah, it's a hard leg to stand on, 184 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: so to speak, right, because the whole weight of all 185 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: the international news agencies are typically saying something completely different. 186 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: But that's the why they're playing into Dawa. They're playing 187 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: into the Islamic tactics and extremists. They are very well 188 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: funded with the disinformation war, and that is why the 189 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: world has been claiming that we've been committing war crimes 190 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: when the truth and the reality is we are held 191 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: to the Geneva Code land warfare laws that every military 192 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: in the West is held to. More than that, we 193 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: have what's known as the gun Purity Laws, and that's 194 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: what every soldier gets. It's ten bullet points of you 195 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: can't use your weapon to exercise your will. You can't 196 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: use your weapon to make people. Do you know, you 197 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: go over there, you do this, You're not allowed to 198 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: do that. The weapon is for defense, the weapon is 199 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: to use against terrorists only when fired upon, and so on. 200 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: So we actually have a higher standard then actually the 201 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: international community for the United States or Europe or England 202 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: or any other countries they've been fighting in Afghanistan Arak 203 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: and all of this is. 204 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: In writing, so wants to research this or really find out. 205 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: It's very clear. It's a part of written policies of 206 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: the IDEF. 207 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: If you google the Spirit of the IDEF, that's where 208 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: you have it in English, but we call it tourneshek 209 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: so directly translated as gun Purity Laws. But it's actually 210 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: published by the IDEF in English called the Spirit of 211 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: the IDEF and you can google it. That's right. 212 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: Let's take a break and hear a message from one 213 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: of our sponsors. Welcome back to the Auto Zion podcast 214 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: with Susan Michael. 215 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: You know, the other thing about the IDEF is of course, 216 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: that say you have a soldier that violates the gun purity, 217 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: or you have a soldier that just one day just 218 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: cracks and starts doing crazy things and maybe maybe they 219 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: beat a Palestinian or something. The difference is that Israel 220 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: will investigate and will take action against that soldier if 221 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: they've done something wrong, as opposed to the other side. 222 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: It's all about doing the wrong, it's all about the 223 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: you know, attacking and violating. They have no. 224 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: Code like that, correct. 225 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, Israel's not perfect. The IDEAF isn't perfect. Someone 226 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: may make a mistake or someone may just lose it 227 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 2: one day and do the wrong thing. But Israel will 228 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: investigate and they will they'll, you know, come up with 229 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: charges against that soldier. 230 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example to that effect. To that point. 231 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: First of all, yes, we do have soldiers that act 232 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: out of conduct, they do wrong, and they do get 233 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: the full ramifications of military tribunal et cetera. And they're 234 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: very strict, extremely strict, And there have been soldiers that 235 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: have been punished for not doing not acting, cornder our 236 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: code of conduct one hundred percent, and that happens. So 237 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna whitewash and say the idea is clean. 238 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: We don't do wrong. No military has non bad bad 239 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: actors within with it within a war, especially because in 240 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: war you put under extreme, extreme uh uh pressures and 241 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: challenges that you're not in everyday life. Somebody cutting you 242 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: off on the highway and you have road rage. We're 243 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: not talking about that. I'll give you an example. We 244 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: had a terrorist that was under our custody that had 245 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: been uh interrogated in the field and confessed to what 246 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: they found on him. So they found on him a 247 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: lock of hair of a young girl, and they pressed him, 248 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: asked him, what is this, where'd you get it, why 249 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: you have it, why is it? 250 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: Why? 251 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: Why are you carrying a lock of hair on you? 252 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: And so on. He finally confessed and said this is 253 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: the hair of a young girl, a young girl that 254 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: he had raped, his Jewish girl that he had raped 255 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: and murdered, and he kept as a memento. Now, mind 256 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: you we had seen the horrors of October seven. We 257 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: knew what they did to to family members, friends of ours, people, 258 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: we knew personally. And you're standing across this gentleman, and 259 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: you're in the field, and I have a choice. I 260 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: have a moral choice. Do I put him in the 261 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: ground and chalk it up, as you know, a casualty 262 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: of war, or do I act and in godly conduct 263 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: actually right, because to me, at the end of the day, 264 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: as you know, as a god fear, God is watching 265 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: everything we do. So I don't care what the government say, 266 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: what my military says. I'm holding myself accountable to God's 267 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: watching me right now in my heart and how I 268 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: act in this very challenging moment. And that's just an example. 269 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: Or you'll have some doctor at the at the at 270 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: the hospital on post October seven, hours later, a terrace 271 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: is on their table and they know that this terrorists 272 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: because they got they got attacks. Your son was killed 273 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: and it's in the terr attack on October seventh, just now. 274 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: But but they're at the hospital and they need to 275 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: save lives. They can't check out and say well, I 276 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: need to go more so they're operating. This was real, 277 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: really it happened, and they now have a terrorists on 278 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: the operating table because we follow what's known as triage. 279 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Even in the battlefield of a terror attack. The triology 280 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: is if the terrorists is more to wounded and worse 281 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: than the others, we have to treat them and prioritize them. 282 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: That's what the idea, what the what the the the 283 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: the Israeli what's known as the Maginda vida dome, that's 284 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: what they have to prioritize and and and those are 285 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: real challenges that we faced. So all I'm saying is 286 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: quit looking at headlines, quit looking at inflammatory language that 287 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: some pundits are saying, and realize there's a real people 288 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: with real challenges. I'm one of them. And I can 289 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: tell you that we have been put up against some 290 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: of the hardest moral, ethical, and psychological challenges that that 291 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: I can that I can I can imagine to think of. 292 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: Because again, I have friends who are in special forces 293 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: in America and in Europe and our marines or or army, 294 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: and and I don't know anybody who's been put up 295 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: against such immense challenges. And they're telling me this and 296 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: and saying, brother, I feel so bad for what you 297 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: guys had to face. So so I'm just basing off 298 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: of that and saying, listen, this is a huge challenge 299 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: for Israel, and I believe that we have been we 300 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: have been uh, we have been acting rightly and in 301 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: flying colors, with all due respect to everybody's criticism. 302 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: Well, I want to ask about one other accusation. So 303 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson also interviewed this uh former the US military. 304 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: You can clarify what he was, and he had been 305 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: hired by a contractor to go and to help secure 306 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: the sites where they were distributed aid, where the Humanitarian 307 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: Aid Fund was distributing aid, and he came back with 308 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: the most awful accusations against Israeli soldiers that they were 309 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: firing indiscriminately into the crowd and that they had killed 310 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: this little hungry boy that he showed the picture of him. 311 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: Tell us what's the truth. 312 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you asked about Anthony Aguilair is his name. 313 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: He was a He was a West Pointer US Military Army, 314 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: ended up in the finishing service in the Green Berets. 315 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: And unfortunately this is one of those bad apples within 316 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: the US military. And again it doesn't look good having 317 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: an Israeli soldier calling out an American soldier, and in fact, 318 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: I normally I don't do that because I believe it's 319 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: important with our ties with the United States and Israel, 320 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: that we strengthened each other and we don't show each 321 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: other's dirty laundry, so to speak, because that's that's that's 322 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: a counterproductive, right because I'll find someone who did wrong 323 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: in your military. You'll find someone done wrong in my military. 324 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: You know it's counterproductive. It exists, so we know that, 325 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: and I know that they'll be due justice to that individual. 326 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: But in this case, it became a public issue when 327 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: he went to the media and when he went and 328 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: spread misinformation. So so soldiers reached out to me from 329 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: the IDEAF because I'm not a part of any of 330 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: the security forces for the GHF food distribution sites that 331 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: you mentioned that I have seen. I have seen them. 332 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: I'm aware of them. We operated in vicinity of but 333 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: not part of that mission. But soldiers who were part 334 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: of the missions set me gave me personal accounts and 335 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: I and I crossed examine them. Just to be clear, 336 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: I did just say, you know, oh, you're just some 337 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: random guy, you know, cross examined, where did you serve, 338 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: et cetera, what unit and and and and we're able 339 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: to to go okay, so you're legit. So tell me 340 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: about your experience, what you saw, what you witnessed. And 341 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: then also knowing from from from operations I've been a 342 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: part of and so on, and they said, look, he 343 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: claimed that we fired into a crowd. Common sense. How 344 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: much footage that we see of atrocities happening in Gaza 345 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: that has gone viral? How hard would it have been for 346 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: one of the Palestinians in the crowd that have been 347 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: fired at, and knowing that they use misinformation as attacked it, 348 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: how much more valuable would it be to capture footage 349 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: of the ideaf firing tank rounds into crowd and just 350 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: that carnage and the horror of those shots. It would 351 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: have shook the world all eyes on rough right, And 352 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: that was based off of fictitious information, fabricated footage and 353 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: so on of starving people and so on. How valuable 354 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: would this be? And nobody in the crowd filmed it, 355 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: none of the of the propagandas which I guarantee they're there, 356 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: They're always there to capture any mistake that we make 357 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: and they didn't capture it on film. Found that to 358 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: be very interesting, so we didn't have that. We didn't 359 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: have we have soldiers tell us that's not what happened. 360 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: And we got to through a fellow friend of mine 361 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: who's his name is Matthew Tardio. So this is all verified. 362 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: You can go on his on his Twitter account and 363 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: you can see the feed he gave all the information 364 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: because then he looked and did a deep dive, deep 365 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: dive on this. He's a former Green Berray, this Matthew Tardio, 366 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: and as a as a as a Green Bray himself, 367 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: he's like, well, he's probably my community. I got to 368 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: fact check this, and he turned. He was able to 369 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of the fact that he was 370 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: lying about the JHF. He was lying about what he 371 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: did there and the young boy that he claimed they 372 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: took a picture of and said this boy was shot 373 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: and killed. Then later Fox News were able to track 374 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: him and say here he is and his mother and 375 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: he's alive, and well, so you had so much disproving 376 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: of this man, yet he still goes on interviews, he 377 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: still gets platformed, and you won't see me being platformed 378 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: as a person who got insider account to disprove him, 379 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: or Matthew Tardeo, who's a fellow US military member and 380 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: an actual I would say an actual Green Beret, because 381 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: a real Green Beret liberates the free, de oppressed and 382 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: fights for for for for real causes, and and and 383 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: and and has a moral backbone. And it's important that 384 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: that that for myself, in any military member, it doesn't 385 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: matter special forces or or or or or even a 386 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: supportive uh, anyone who's in military and in uniform. You 387 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: represent your country. You represent that's on your weight of 388 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: your shoulders. And to lie to the public using your 389 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: title or using your your background, UH, to say well, 390 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: because I'm this, that is a huge, huge, huge red 391 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: flag for our community. I say it's our community because 392 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: the United States and Israel have fought together against terror 393 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: for years, and we fight shoulder to shoulder to fight evil. 394 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: And it is important that we fight this in a 395 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: righteous way and not spread misinformation and hurt each other. 396 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: And that's very important. 397 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for setting the records straight. I know 398 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: that a lot of our listeners have heard these various things. Yes, 399 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: and it's just hard for us to believe as American 400 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: Christians that someone would just outright lie, But they do 401 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: it all the time. And that's what we have to 402 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 2: come to understand in this situation. The lie there lies 403 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: about Israel. They're just outright lies. 404 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: You know. Some people are narcissists, so they just want airtime, right, 405 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: they want their name out there. Some people want money. 406 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: So honestly, I don't know, I don't know what the 407 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: what the motive is. But what I can just tell 408 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: you is that when you see somebody like we said 409 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: that should be acting completely opposite and having a higher 410 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: starve plus being a west Pointer. My nephew, by the way, 411 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: is a west Point and he finished his his military 412 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: service in the Pentagon. So I'm very proud. I'm a 413 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: very proud patriot of America as I am a Zionist 414 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: in Israeli. And so I can tell you from firsthand, knowing, 415 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: knowing what the standard is from my own family. H 416 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: it's it's, it's it's it's it's a shame that people, 417 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: for whatever reasons, spread misinformation and it's wrong. 418 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: Well, now, Drone, you also have some projects that you've 419 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: been working on all and about getting out the truth 420 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: and the right information, but share with us. You brought 421 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: a couple of things with you. Share with us what 422 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: you've been. 423 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: A part of. So I've been honored to be a 424 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: part of a wonderful film project called I Am is 425 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: Israel The Mountain of the King. We've been working on 426 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: this for i'd say over five years together with David Kern. 427 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: He's a Christian film director from here in Nashville locally, 428 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: and we met each other years ago and I saw 429 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: him in his first film called I'm Israel, and I 430 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: approached him. I said, brother, I said, that is so beautiful. 431 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: You shared the beauty of Judaea Samaria, the Biblical heartland, 432 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: an area that is is politically charged because of the 433 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: media and what have you, and you showed it in 434 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: a beautiful cinematic way and in a biblical way that 435 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: basically shows this land the way God sees it. And 436 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: I said, that was wonderful because you took something that 437 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: could have been negative. You could have gotten into the 438 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: into the land minds of these political issues or whatever, 439 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: but you didn't. You just told the personal story of 440 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: these Jews that are building God's holy land and rebuilding 441 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: it and restoring it, and what God's doing through these 442 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: these individuals and telling their personal stories. So so then 443 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: I told them about about why don't you do a 444 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: film about the Temple mount with that same spirit, with 445 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: that same vantage point of how God sees this beautiful 446 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: holy mountain, which God says, this is the navel of 447 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: the earth. This is where we'll put my name forever. 448 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: And then we were able to collaborate and make a 449 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: sequel of I'm Israel with the main focus being God's mountain, 450 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: Mountain Zion in Jerusalem. And it's a beautiful film. It's 451 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: in four K high definition, beautiful cinematography, never seen before 452 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: footage of Israel in one of the most beautiful cinemac ways. 453 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: We got John Reyes Davies, he's the narrator of the film. 454 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: He's known for the younger generation from Lord of the Rings, 455 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: but he's also for people like me. He's known from 456 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: the Indian Indiana Jones films, and so he we have 457 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: this wonderful a lister filmmaker, sorry, film actor that is 458 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: narrating the film. And we got an orchestra from here 459 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: in Nashville, high end music. Everything is just. 460 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: Tell me, how can our audience find a copy of this? 461 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: How can they get by it. 462 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: Well, this is what the cover looks like. It's the 463 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: more colorful cover from the two films, and it's called 464 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: I Am Israel The Mountain of the King. And if 465 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: you go to I Am israelfilm dot com or just 466 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: google I Am Israel Film, you will see this cover 467 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: and you can download it digitally. You can get a 468 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: hard copy like this and DVD or Blu ray and 469 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's a it's a wonderful experience. It's for families, 470 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: so it's all ages. We did that on purpose. It's adventurous, 471 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: it's exciting. It's the journey that the Israelites did from 472 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: Mountain Zion, sorry, from Mount Sinai through the land of Israel. 473 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: And we take you through all these biblical sites and 474 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: take you to the journalist for. 475 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: To seeing it myself. And as we bring this to 476 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: a close, you you have another resource here you'd like 477 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: to share. 478 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: So another important resource for the information war that we 479 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: have seen since October seventh, from the river to the sea, 480 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: Da da da da da, you know, protests. So I 481 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: have this book by Lars Anderson. He's a world renowned 482 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: Bible teacher, and I've had the privilege to get his 483 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: book and to share this with many people because he 484 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: has written the book to counter this Palestinian myth, because 485 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: there's not such a thing as a Palsing people or 486 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: Palestinian land. Uh, they're Arabs and their Jews and and 487 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: and then all kinds of other people groups in the 488 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: Middle East and specifically in Israel for his Drews and 489 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: and and whatnot. And so what he does is he 490 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: basically gets through the myth and exposes it through the 491 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: historic backdrop of where to come from, who propagated it, 492 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: and and. 493 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: How do we get a this book? 494 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: While you just google the name the you can google 495 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: the name, but you can also go to my website. 496 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: All of these resources are there. Just google my name 497 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: doron dot com and I made sure to have that 498 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: all one, one landing page, so to speak, and you 499 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: can get links to where you can purchase those. 500 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: Well, we'll put that rl in the today's show notes. 501 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: So we just want to thank you for more information 502 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: on Doron and these two wonderful resources. We'll put the 503 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: links in today's show notes. 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