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Speaker 2: It is Chris to God Risk Gall.

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Speaker 3: I'm joined now by Christigall, most of.

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Speaker 1: The Christ of Goall Show, so let's brand talk radio

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Speaker 2: Hey, they're merry Christmas, and I guess I will say

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Speaker 2: a happy New Year. Welcome into the Christagall Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: I want to say thank you for another tremendous year

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Speaker 2: and welcome in to this edition of The Stagall Show,

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Speaker 2: one of the great ways to kick off the brand

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Speaker 2: different guy. He's the founder and CEO of American Majority,

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year to you, Ned. Thank you so much

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Speaker 4: Moving forward, what do you think is going to happen?

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Speaker 1: these institutions. I would argue, you know, the FBI. It's

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Speaker 1: one thing to have these institutions and various departments and.

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Speaker 4: Agencies under our control.

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Speaker 1: At the moment, we shouldn't be just passing time by

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Speaker 1: being in control. This is a moment to actually fundamentally

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Speaker 1: reform the FBI and other parts of this government. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's no state secret how I feel that the administrative

442
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Speaker 1: state must be deconstructed, it must be devolved, it must

443
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Speaker 1: be shattered into a million pieces. We have political power

444
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Speaker 1: for a reason, Chris, and it's not just again to

445
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Speaker 1: pass time and go, oh, that just a great time

446
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Speaker 1: that we had power for those four years. Hopefully it's

447
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Speaker 1: longer than that. But we should actually look at it

448
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Speaker 1: like progressives look at it. We were given political power

449
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Speaker 1: for a reason is not to pass time. It's not

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Speaker 1: to trim around the edges. It's to actually fundamentally reform

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Speaker 1: and reimagine what this government looks like. And so the

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Speaker 1: thing that's a little concerning, Although I see great signs,

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Speaker 1: what two hundred and seventy one thousand federal employees have

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Speaker 1: been removed from government under the first year of Trump

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Speaker 1: another whim that should be get some more recognition and

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Speaker 1: be highlighted.

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Speaker 4: But that to me is about a third of what

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Speaker 4: should be removed. I call it the eight hundred thousand figures.

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Speaker 1: To me, the mark where if you have that many

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Speaker 1: people removed in the four years of Trump, you're actually

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Speaker 1: making real progress on deconstructing and devolving the power of

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Speaker 1: the administrative state. But if the FBI by the time

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Speaker 1: we're done with this Trump administration the second term is

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Speaker 1: still in its current shape, form and size, we will

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Speaker 1: have failed the American people.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and Cash Patel, you know talk as you and

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Speaker 2: I are speaking today, I don't know what to believe exactly.

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Speaker 2: I have a professional acquaintance with Dan Bongino. I'm not

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Speaker 2: close by any means, and I certainly don't know, but

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Speaker 2: some say he's already packticed things and he intends to leave.

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Speaker 2: There have been reports of friction there. You know, Miranda

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Speaker 2: Devine has done reporting that there's dissension in the ranks

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Speaker 2: and the cash is in over his head. And obviously

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Speaker 2: there's been long criticism of Pam Bondi. The president has

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Speaker 2: stuck with these people. Though yes, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: to read that. I still don't, and I understand people

477
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Speaker 2: feeling impatient. I also understand what building a case and

478
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Speaker 2: the law requires. So I'm trying to be discerning here.

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Speaker 2: How does Ned Ryan see these these players in particular

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Speaker 2: in reform.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the beginnings of some frustration, if I'm being

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Speaker 1: completely honest, but at the same time, a realistic approach

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Speaker 1: these institutions, whether it's dj FBI, you name it, literally

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Speaker 1: every department agency in my mind here in the DC

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Speaker 1: area that's part of the administrative state. This didn't happen overnight.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to go back, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to bore people.

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Speaker 4: With the history of it.

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Speaker 1: This started over one hundred and ten years ago. I

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Speaker 1: would argue the corruption that we really see, the deep

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Speaker 1: rooted corruption accelerated under Obama, say the last decade.

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Speaker 4: Right, you don't go.

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Speaker 1: In in the first year and are able to reform

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Speaker 1: something that took years and years to get to that point.

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Speaker 1: So there's kind of the point where I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we need to accelerate on some of these fronts. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, you know, Rome wasn't built in a

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Speaker 1: day kind of mentality. But I definitely am not going

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Speaker 1: to stop beating the drama on there should be reformed,

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Speaker 1: We should restructure these institutions, we should downsize them. I

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Speaker 1: think the FBI needs to be its power needs to

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Speaker 1: be devolved.

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Speaker 4: It should be just white collar crime.

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Speaker 1: I think any counter terrorism stuff should be in another department,

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Speaker 1: maybe DHS, although that's another one that I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see downsize as well. So just start to reimagine what,

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Speaker 1: in a perfect world, what would.

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Speaker 4: This look like.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure we're having enough of those conversations

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Speaker 1: at the moment to make me as optimistic as I

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Speaker 1: think we could be by the end of the Trump

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Speaker 1: second term that we're going to see real reform.

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Speaker 2: And so how do you see who I get let

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Speaker 2: me put a name to it. Whose responsibility is that

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Speaker 2: objectively is that President Trump to dictate and direct it

516
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Speaker 2: is that cash betail to say, Hey, here's my vision?

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Speaker 2: Is it? PAMBONDI? All three? Who do you put that?

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Speaker 4: Trump?

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Speaker 2: Trump? I mean, okay, because here's the thing, Ed, I'll

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Speaker 2: follow up with this and say, I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: anybody more. I know exactly what you're about to say,

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Speaker 2: and I agree with it. So I'm not arguing. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying that if here's what I say to people

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Speaker 2: who are impatient, I say, there can't be anyone more

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Speaker 2: interested in reforming this corrupt institution that I believe nearly

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Speaker 2: got him killed than Donald Trump. If he's not motivated,

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Speaker 2: then who the hell's going to be motivated? Ned has

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Speaker 2: always been what I've said, So having said that, please

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Speaker 2: take it away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I think what what it is is

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Speaker 1: it being a again. I can I can't even imagine

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Speaker 1: everything that he's dealing with every day on a whole

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Speaker 1: host of fronts, and you know, had the privilege of

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Speaker 1: sitting in there with him as he's dealing with all

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Speaker 1: kinds of information flows. Highly impressive for a seventy nine

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Speaker 1: year old. I'm just going to say that, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to say with what was being discussed anything else,

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Speaker 1: but just like, that's incredibly impressive what he's doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so there's a lot of things going on. It has

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Speaker 1: to be something or it has to be a constant

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Speaker 1: priority for him. I do know that he has strongly

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Speaker 1: encouraged cabinet secretaries in regards to overall cuts, which is

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Speaker 1: a step in the right direction. I think it'd be

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Speaker 1: more meaningful than some of the other things that have

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Speaker 1: been proposed in which you just make straight cuts across

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Speaker 1: the board in every department and agency. So he's had

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Speaker 1: these conversations. I think what's necessary. You know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: huge fan of Russ votes over at own b Russ

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Speaker 1: and I are very much simpatico in regards to the

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Speaker 1: administrative state, slashing bureaucracy. I think he's going to have

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Speaker 1: to figure out how someone or you know, some people

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Speaker 1: are brought in that kind of dogeesque but very much

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Speaker 1: under the radar that twenty four to seven, they're waking

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Speaker 1: up thinking, how am I going to cut government?

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Speaker 4: What reforms can we do?

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Speaker 1: How are we going to go and audit every department

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Speaker 1: and agency and say this office can be shut down,

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Speaker 1: this many people can be fired.

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Speaker 4: Et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: So it becomes a constant drum beat underneath the radar

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Speaker 1: that's constantly keeping it on his plate, where we say, okay,

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Speaker 1: we've done this this month, you do this this month, this,

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Speaker 1: and so it becomes something that I think is a

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Speaker 1: bit more systematic, but it has to be some He

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Speaker 1: has to find a group of people, special government employees,

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Speaker 1: that this is their priority.

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Speaker 4: That hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 2: Ned Ryan's book again on this better than anybody knows.

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Speaker 2: The American Leviathan, the birth of the administrative state and

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Speaker 2: progressive authoritarianism. Congress, of course always frustrates people. They never

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Speaker 2: move fast enough, Ned, And we know that here we are,

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Speaker 2: we're approaching a midterm. The conventional wisdom is, of course

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Speaker 2: the party in power gets blown out, and you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just sort of an assumption, sort of a fata complete.

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Speaker 2: The Republicans are absolutely certain to lose, because that's just

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Speaker 2: historically the way it goes. I read that Elon a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago has decided he's going to throw

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Speaker 2: some money into some house races. After all, that's impressive

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Speaker 2: given the way things seem to have ended. Like he

580
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Speaker 2: seemed like he was kind of like, to hell with

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Speaker 2: this place. It's unfixable. But now maybe he's back. So

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Speaker 2: will the money dynamic come into play. Do the Republicans,

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Speaker 2: to your point, have something to sell economically? Hopefully? Can

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Speaker 2: something change to stave off this kind of fatalist idea

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Speaker 2: that there's just no chance for Republicans in the House.

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Speaker 4: I think so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I'll just say what I discussed

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Speaker 1: with Trump recently was you're not going to win the

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Speaker 1: midterms running against socialism or on foreign policy. And I

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Speaker 1: love what he's doing on the foreign policy front. I

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Speaker 1: really do like the resurrection of the Monroe doctor in

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Speaker 1: the Western hemisphere.

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Speaker 4: Love it.

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Speaker 1: You're going to win it on affordability and healthcare. Are you

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Speaker 1: making people's lives more affordable? Have you solved the healthcare issue?

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Speaker 1: So that to me is one of those things that

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Speaker 1: I think you're really starting to see again again in

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. We're more and more JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance Best and even Trump are starting to address this

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Speaker 1: issue and at least acknowledge we realize it's an issue.

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Speaker 1: Biden caused this. I mean, you can look at the numbers,

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Speaker 1: Chris and see this massive spike in costs, and when

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Speaker 1: Trump won it did this right. It stopped, but we're

604
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Speaker 1: still a peer, and so I think the challenge is,

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Speaker 1: how do you bring it back down. The underlying fundamentals

606
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Speaker 1: are fantastic in regards to obviously energy, in regards to

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Speaker 1: some of these other things, inflation being stable. So I

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Speaker 1: think I think you're going to see some wins on

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Speaker 1: that front that I think people will feel now back

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Speaker 1: to kind of the nuts and bolts of winning politics,

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Speaker 1: winning political races.

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Speaker 4: Elon's coming back in.

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to see some other donors making

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Speaker 1: significant investments in the right places. Trump has said I

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Speaker 1: will be out there campaigning heavily with rallies. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to see him put maybe about three hundred million minimum

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Speaker 1: from maggot Ink into these key house races.

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Speaker 4: It's about the House, like the Senate.

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Speaker 1: I like the map a lot, Chris, if we're talking

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Speaker 1: about losing the Senate, we've already lost the House. I

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Speaker 1: don't see us having that conversation. But the House, to

622
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Speaker 1: me is obviously massively important. If Trump loses that, he'll

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Speaker 1: be in peace. There'll be all kinds of investigations, everything

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Speaker 1: goes sidew So I think You're seeing a lot of

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Speaker 1: people start to go, we can do this, we can win.

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Speaker 1: I think obviously, if the economy's going really well, it's

627
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Speaker 1: going to be a huge, you know, wind in our back,

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Speaker 1: and then people investing in the right place is doing

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Speaker 1: the right thing. I've got huge plans in regards to

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Speaker 1: house districts, voter edge, abgen ab Chase, Edie Push.

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Speaker 4: So I'm again I'm.

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Speaker 1: Probably more bullish than people other people are, but I've

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Speaker 1: looked at some of these numbers and gone, we're going

634
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Speaker 1: to come ahead on the redistricting again. Louisiana versus Klay

635
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Speaker 1: is a little bit of a wild card. I think

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Speaker 1: it's going to go in our favor. The question is

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Speaker 1: is it beginning of January or is it later. If

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Speaker 1: it's later, it's not going to be nearly as beneficial

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Speaker 1: to us. Hopefully it's in January. So the fundamentals and

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Speaker 1: all those things are going to be in our favor,

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Speaker 1: I think on that front, and then it's just matter

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Speaker 1: of are we going to focus on the right numbers

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Speaker 1: in the right places.

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Speaker 2: Is it money or is it how people are feeling?

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Speaker 4: Both? How do you like that answer? It's both?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, No, I'll tell you this in Virginia, where

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Speaker 1: I'm at the recent gubernatory election, which was a total

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Speaker 1: disaster here in the state. Not a great candidate with

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Speaker 1: wins sears. There were a couple of things she was

650
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Speaker 1: going to lose. I mean that that's a whole other conversation.

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Speaker 1: She didn't even address the economy. Chris, I couldn't even

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Speaker 1: tell you what her economic message was.

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Speaker 2: say the frustration because he's he's looking at eighty points

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Speaker 2: like right, no, and it's not only it's not his fault,

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Speaker 2: but he sees where there is real improvement. I think

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Speaker 2: Besson's brilliant, and I think Besson and he they see

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Speaker 2: coming down the pike what's happening. They see what's happening

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Speaker 2: to people's portfolios. And yet all they keep hearing about

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Speaker 2: afford that. Nobody can afford a house, and I can

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Speaker 2: I sense why they're frustrated. They're not insensitive to it,

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Speaker 2: but I sense why there's frustrated.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, there was a little bit of frustration when

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Speaker 1: we were talking about this. But it is kind of

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Speaker 1: a weird dynamic in which, like just personally four oh

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Speaker 1: one K is doing great.

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Speaker 4: On the other hand, my wife.

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Speaker 1: My wife comes home and goes, I cannot believe how

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Speaker 1: much groceries are costing us right.

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Speaker 2: Now, exactly exactly, I don't believe.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe you.

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Speaker 1: And then I look at their season go, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: are you like this is insane?

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Speaker 4: So I do see the underlying fundamentals.

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Speaker 1: I think the first two quarters of next of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six are going to be really, really strong, and

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Speaker 1: I know that what Bessett and Trump and others are

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Speaker 1: looking at. I just think you got to tweak the

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Speaker 1: narrative a little bit, the messaging, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to all come together.

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Speaker 4: I hope in the summer of twenty six.

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Speaker 2: It is so fascinating. I mean, you're a specialist in messaging.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that we've ever been at a time

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Speaker 2: like this where people's four oh one k's are at fifteen, eighteen,

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Speaker 2: twenty percent, right, and then they're looking at a six

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Speaker 2: dollars package of hot dogs at the same time, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, you're exactly right. It's part of it, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well part of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can go back and look, there's there's

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Speaker 1: obviously more of this than just this simply. But when

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration goes after and starts crushing our domestic

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Speaker 1: energy production, driving up the cost of energy, that has

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Speaker 1: this ripple effect across the economy in which people are

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Speaker 1: paying more for gas, it's more to transport your groceries

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Speaker 1: and products, so they're going to pay more for groceries,

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Speaker 1: they're going to pay more for products. This is why

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Speaker 1: I keep hammering the drum. With Trump, it's awesome that

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Speaker 1: you've done a million barrels of oil more a day

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Speaker 1: since coming into office.

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Speaker 4: Can we get to two? Can we get to three million?

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Speaker 1: At that point, you then start to see that ripple

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Speaker 1: effect going through the economy again, in which energy has

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Speaker 1: been driven down. Gas is cheaper, foods cheaper, products are cheaper.

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Speaker 1: People start to feel it, and so there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of terrible decisions, obviously massive government spending, spiking inflation.

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Speaker 1: With Biden, you've got the energy decisions that were terrible

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Speaker 1: and quite frankly childish and removed from reality.

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Speaker 4: So you've seen some of those things change. It's just

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Speaker 4: going to.

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Speaker 1: Take a little bit longer. I think for people to

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Speaker 1: feel it, they have to feel it. Chris, This to

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Speaker 1: me is one of those things where I'm like, we

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Speaker 1: can talk about it, we can have better message on it,

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Speaker 1: they have to feel it. When they start to feel it,

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Speaker 1: I really like our chances. But I'm also going to

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Speaker 1: remind people of someone who's deeply socially conservative in times

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Speaker 1: like this. It's the economy stupid, to quote James Carville,

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Speaker 1: and so I think that has to be front center

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Speaker 1: for the next however, many months until the midterms. Just hammer,

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Speaker 1: hammer hammer policy, cutting regulations, increasing domestic production, all these things.

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Speaker 4: Again, I'm optimistic.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, what we know is Democrats will try anything, Vanity

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Speaker 2: fair pieces with Susie Wiles, Jeffrey Epstein, East Wing renovations, anything,

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Speaker 2: every day. It's just something new they would rather distract with.

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Speaker 2: Republicans ought not go down that rabbit hole with them.

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Speaker 1: True, every day Americans are not really watching the smoke

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Speaker 1: and period.

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Speaker 4: That signifies nothing.

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Speaker 1: Really at the end of the day, they're looking at

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Speaker 1: how is my life better or worse? Can I pay

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Speaker 1: my bills? Can I pay for my groceries? All of

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Speaker 1: these things. Of course the corporate propagandists are going to

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Speaker 1: be doing that to try and help their buddies in

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and the administrative states.

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Speaker 4: So kind of comes with the territory.

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Speaker 1: But I think most every day Americans it's white noise.

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Speaker 1: They're not really paying attention to it. In fact, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people Chris don't pay attention to elections and

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Speaker 1: all these things. They're really the last four or five

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Speaker 1: sixty seven weeks. So whatever we're experiencing now, we're like

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Speaker 1: four or five political lifetimes away from the mid terms

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Speaker 1: and people making decisions on that.

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Speaker 2: And here's what I also hear. I would love your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on this. As we wrap, I heard the rn

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Speaker 2: C chair, the new rn C chair, came on the

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Speaker 2: show and said this, and I was kind of surprised

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Speaker 2: he said it. I know Trump has said it, get

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Speaker 2: rid of the philibuster. You want to juice progress and

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Speaker 2: you want to have something to sell, get rid of

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Speaker 2: the philibuster in the Senate, and let's just start rubber

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Speaker 2: stamping agenda items lickety split. There's obviously retisdents to do

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Speaker 2: that in the Senate. John Thune doesn't want to do it.

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Speaker 2: So where are you on that?

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Speaker 1: I'm a political realist. Democrats would have already done this

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Speaker 1: if it weren't for Joe Manchin and Kirsten Cinema. If

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Speaker 1: you go back to that time, those are the two

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Speaker 1: that stop Democrats from removing the filibuster. If Democrats came

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Speaker 1: back into the majority of the Senate, this I guess

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Speaker 1: i'd I'd answer your question with a question, if Democrats

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Speaker 1: came back into power in the Senate, what do you

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Speaker 1: think they would do?

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Speaker 2: Chris in a hot second, get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: In a hot second. So for us to not do that,

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Speaker 1: and again John Thune is the hold up. Also the

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Speaker 1: Blue Slips with Chuck Grassley another sticking point that I think,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we're in a different age, We're at

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Speaker 1: a different time. To not acknowledge that is not to

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Speaker 1: know what time it is.

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Speaker 4: I think he removed the filibuster. I think he removed

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Speaker 4: the Blue slips.

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Speaker 1: And you say this is the political route reality of

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Speaker 1: now with Democrats have power, would they do it?

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Speaker 4: Of course they would. We should do it before they do.

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Speaker 1: And it will actually extend our political power because it

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Speaker 1: gives us the ability to have so many wins that

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Speaker 1: will impact the lives of the American people. We could

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Speaker 1: be in power for a very long time if we

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Speaker 1: actually have the guts to do it.

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Speaker 2: If and then you would have in fact, as you say,

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Speaker 2: all of those agenda items. Yeah, like you could. If Trump,

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Speaker 2: you know, is just signing right and left as fast

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Speaker 2: as he can, then all of a sudden, you're really

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Speaker 2: talking about something to pitch and sell come next fall.

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Speaker 1: I am determined that how do I say, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to say this in such a way. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'll come off right. I'm obsessed with political power.

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Speaker 1: How do you actually achieve and maintain political in the

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Speaker 1: hands of the right people for as long as possible

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Speaker 1: to actually bring about some of the things that are

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Speaker 1: fundamental to the success of this country, the restoration of

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Speaker 1: the republic. These are some of the things in which

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Speaker 1: we can actually do on the filibuster and the blue

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Speaker 1: slips and some alls of other things.

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Speaker 4: And then we don't.

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Speaker 1: And then another point that I'll make and not go

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Speaker 1: too far down the rabbit, try if we hold power

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Speaker 1: for the twenty thirty census and have the citizenship question

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Speaker 1: and remove the differential privacy algorithm, all these things build

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Speaker 1: to another. We could send a left into the political

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Speaker 1: wilderness for a generation or two and our country would

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Speaker 1: be so much better for it. So we should think

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Speaker 1: about how are we going to achieve that on the

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Speaker 1: policy front and on the political front. And anybody that

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Speaker 1: is not doing that and wants to be sensational, going

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Speaker 1: back to our first topic, I have questions about their motivations.

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Speaker 1: And they really in it for the betterment of the country.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so smart. And so there are still though

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Speaker 2: there's that annoying, recalcitrant bit of Republicans. And we saw

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Speaker 2: them in Indiana. I know, what do we do there

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Speaker 2: with the guys in Indiana who say we're not going

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Speaker 2: to redistrict to give Indiana two new Republicans.

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Speaker 1: I have found in politics, Chris, if you take a

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Speaker 1: few scalps and nail them over the door, next time,

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Speaker 1: people behave a little bit differently. And I already know

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Speaker 1: Trump and his team are going to go after some

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Speaker 1: of those state senators in Indiana.

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Speaker 4: I think they should.

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Speaker 1: I think the big question is so Cam Savage is

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Speaker 1: a consultant that obviously was driving this. He's also a

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Speaker 1: consultant to Todd Young, the other senator from Indiana. I

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Speaker 1: love Jim Banks. I do not like Todd Young. So

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Speaker 1: I guess my bigger questions. I already know they're going

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Speaker 1: to primary some of those state senators. I think Todd

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Speaker 1: Young should be asking himself, am I going to get

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Speaker 1: primaried in the spring of twenty eight because I think

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Speaker 1: he was part and parcel to this.

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Speaker 4: So I think you have to make examples.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a shame that there are some Republicans

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Speaker 1: who still don't understand what they are confronting in regards

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Speaker 1: to the un American left, and we should be doing

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Speaker 1: everything that we can when it's in our power to

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Speaker 1: actually gain more political power. They do it to us,

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Speaker 1: we should do it to them. And a shame that

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Speaker 1: the Indiana State Senators did not do that, and I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to bear the consequences for and I'm

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Speaker 1: very happy for it.

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Speaker 2: As Rumsfeld once said, you go to war with the

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Speaker 2: army you have, not the one you wish you had.

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Speaker 2: Do you like this army? Do you like this RNC chair,

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Speaker 2: this President, his cabinet, the leadership in Congress.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a whole series of look good questions.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be honest, because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: different thingles that listen. I think this is the most

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Speaker 1: talented cabinet that Republicans have had in a very long time.

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Speaker 1: Scott Bessing, to me, was one of those sleeper picks

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Speaker 1: that I wasn't sure about at the beginning.

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Speaker 4: I think he is one of the if not the

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Speaker 4: rock star of the cabinet. Couldn't be happier, especially.

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Speaker 1: As we're talking about affordability, cost of living that he

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Speaker 1: is the Secretary of the Treasury. So I think this

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Speaker 1: is extremely talented cabinet. I think despite maybe a couple

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Speaker 1: of missteps and talking to Commy Rags, a very talented

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Speaker 1: team inside the West Wing. Susie is part and parcel

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Speaker 1: to his success in twenty four. She is part and

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Speaker 1: parcel to the success of the first year of this term.

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Speaker 1: Usually a highly disciplined team. So a bit of a

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Speaker 1: mystery on some of those fronts.

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Speaker 4: House leadership. I'm not the huge I'm not a huge.

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Speaker 1: Fan of Mike Johnson. I'm also realistic. He has three

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Speaker 1: seats right now, so for them to have as much

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Speaker 1: success as they have had, obviously working very closely with

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Speaker 1: Trump and JD to get those votes whipped, I'm realistic.

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Speaker 2: Is that Could I just interrupt on Mike Johnson keep

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Speaker 2: your train of thought, but on Mike Johnson specifically, is

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Speaker 2: there something about that position? I would not look at

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Speaker 2: him and call him a moderate, But all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden they become House leadership, and there's something that happens,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if it's just a function of

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Speaker 2: the office and we don't understand it, or are the

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Speaker 2: new gingriches of the world gone, or I mean, what

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Speaker 2: do we make of Mike Johnson as a guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it's the worst job in DC.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're literally it shouldn't be called Speaker of

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Speaker 1: the House. It should be chief cat hurder because you're

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Speaker 1: hurting cats and you have to there's this, you know,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of self interest with the various members of

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Speaker 1: the caucus. Do you actually get it to whether mostly

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Speaker 1: moving in the right direction? You could be the most

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Speaker 1: conservative person before you become speaker. How do you actually

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Speaker 1: figure out how to achieve what's possible? There is Again

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Speaker 1: my view of politics are of the possible, not the

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Speaker 1: art of perfection. So yeah, I mean, to be the

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Speaker 1: Speaker of the House becomes a very it's a very

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Speaker 1: hard job. So this is why I'm also a little

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Speaker 1: realistic about Mike Johnson narrow majority, awful job. How do

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Speaker 1: you actually get people moving in the right direction? Because

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Speaker 1: let's face it, America first is not the majority of

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Speaker 1: the majority, and so there's a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: are more moderate.

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Speaker 4: How do you get them to move? So yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: Part of it is just it's the it's position that

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Speaker 1: may be conservative members as they come into the speakership,

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Speaker 1: there is a moderating factor that comes into play.

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Speaker 4: And I think you have to meeting because you're seeing it.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's not like you've got two thirds of

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Speaker 2: the House, right, I mean, you're you're dealing with a

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Speaker 2: narrow window, so you need to moderate to appeal to

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Speaker 2: people who are moderate unfortunately right.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't, let's say, I mean, and I

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Speaker 1: tell people all the time, would you rather have seventy

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Speaker 1: percent or zero? And if you push you hard, you

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Speaker 1: get zero, and I'll take seventy or eighty. Given the

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Speaker 1: dynamics the Senate, John Thune is annoying me, especially in

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Speaker 1: regards to the filibuster blue slips and also the confirmation.

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Speaker 1: You don't need Democrats to confirm all these nominees. You

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Speaker 1: could have done that back in August with regular order.

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Speaker 1: You just didn't want to spend. I think it's two

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Speaker 1: to four hours of debate per nomine because that would

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Speaker 1: have been real work. So I'm a little irritated by

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Speaker 1: the Republicans in the Senate because I think they're lazy.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they really are that on board with

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Speaker 1: Trump in America first, and I think they're clinging to

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Speaker 1: an age that doesn't exist anymore.

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Speaker 2: Amen, amen Ned Ryan. This is about as fair and

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Speaker 2: realistic and honest an assessment as it gets, and a

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Speaker 2: nonsensational one too. Sincerely like starting the year with some

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Speaker 2: kogent I would say, thinking that it's genuinely interested in

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Speaker 2: bettering and furthering the mission and the country. That's what

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Speaker 2: you are, and that's why I'm so glad to start

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Speaker 2: the year with you.

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Speaker 4: My friend. I appreciate it. Thank you, Chris.

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Speaker 2: So that's a wrap for another Christiagall Show podcast. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for committing to it listening to it all the way through.

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