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Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country,

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Speaker 2: fighting for the future of our republic. My call is

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Speaker 2: to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most

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Speaker 2: important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: end up miserable. But if the most important thing is

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Speaker 2: doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody.

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Speaker 2: You got to stop sending your kids to college. You

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Speaker 2: should get married as young as possible and have as

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Speaker 2: many kids as possible. Go start at turning point, you

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Speaker 2: would say, college chapter. Go start at turning point, you

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Speaker 2: say high school chapter. Go find out how your church

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Speaker 2: can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I

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Speaker 2: gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most

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Speaker 2: encourage you to do the same.

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Speaker 1: Here I am Lord, Use me.

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Speaker 3: All right, without further ado, we have Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.

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Speaker 3: He's a great, great Senator out of the state of Oklahoma,

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Speaker 3: and I just want to give you guys in the

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Speaker 3: red state of Oklahoma little kudos here, Senator, you guys

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Speaker 3: have the lowest gas prices in the country. Apparently a

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Speaker 3: buck eighty three a gallon in some counties in the

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Speaker 3: in the great state of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: That's that's like nineteen ninety nine PRIs.

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Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, what is this.

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Speaker 3: We said we wanted the nineties back, and at least

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Speaker 3: in Oklahoma we have it.

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Speaker 5: This is great.

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Speaker 6: In the nineties it was like seventy eight cents a gallon,

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Speaker 6: but it was really I was I was filling up

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Speaker 6: my work trucks. However, at least in ninety seven, ninety eight,

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Speaker 6: but it's still yet to be under two dollars gallons.

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Speaker 1: Pretty amazing.

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Speaker 6: This is a difference, right, So Oklahoma has the lowest

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Speaker 6: gas prices in the country because we embrace our fall

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Speaker 6: fuels and drill baby drill in California has the highest

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Speaker 6: gas prices in the country, and they're shutting down rigs

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Speaker 6: and drilling activity on a daily and shutting down pipelines

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Speaker 6: on the daily. Go figure how those two would run

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Speaker 6: hand in hand, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you you have a you have multiple counties in

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma at buck eighty three. Average gas price in California

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Speaker 3: right now is four dollars in twenty one cents.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, that's lower than i'd have expected. You could have

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Speaker 4: told me it was over five diesels.

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Speaker 3: For eighty six. I mean, I just think it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: And then you've got California. This is not what we

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Speaker 3: were planning on talking about here, Senator, But you've got

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Speaker 3: California has lost There's a New York Post article that

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Speaker 3: I was reading this morning, California has lost a trillion

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Speaker 3: dollars of wealth. So Sergey Brinn and all these other

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Speaker 3: billionaires are fleeing the state. Peter Teel, multiple others opening

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Speaker 3: up satellite offices in Texas and Tennessee and Florida because

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Speaker 3: they're they're going to tax or they're proposing to tax

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Speaker 3: the wealth. So and that could be unrealized gains as

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Speaker 3: well on billionaires. So if you are on paper a billionaire,

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Speaker 3: they're going to tax five percent of your wealth, just

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Speaker 3: take it to fund their medical You're gonna they're gonna

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Speaker 3: shore up the medical books where they're giving free healthcare

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Speaker 3: to illegals in that state.

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Speaker 6: Or give it to the homeless, because that's worked out

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Speaker 6: so well, right, and let's not forget to not forget

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Speaker 6: they ran off the wealthiest man in the country or

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Speaker 6: in the world, Elon Musk, that now is in California too,

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Speaker 6: and so you just you can't make up crazy New

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Speaker 6: York is going to be the same way. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's just a matter of time before the New York

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Speaker 1: To Dallas, Texas. Uh.

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Speaker 6: And and you start looking at cost of building, right,

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Speaker 6: the cost of building in California is somewhere between four

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Speaker 6: hundred and four hundred and fifty dollars a square foot,

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Speaker 6: it's half that and in Oklahoma, so you can build

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Speaker 1: I mean, they.

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Speaker 6: Talk about affordable housing in California, but they regularly themselves

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Speaker 6: that's just called daily life because we have good governance,

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Speaker 6: because we have a red state instead of blue state.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a really fascinating dynamic of modern American cultures.

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Speaker 3: This is divergence between red states and blue states.

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Speaker 4: It's getting further for the and it's we're seeing it

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Speaker 4: in the migration patterns if you look at it. We

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Speaker 4: the South generally gets a lot of people. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: they just can't get out of California or New York

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Speaker 4: fast enough. I'm glad you mentioned Elon Musk. Have you

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Speaker 4: seen this? All the other billionaires were bailing just before

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Speaker 4: the new year because they have that initiated measure that

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Speaker 4: might be on the ballot to do a retroactive wealth tax,

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Speaker 4: a one time bill in California.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about. Yeah, exactly. It didn't realize

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Speaker 3: it was retroactive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why they're all bailing. And it's not just Musk.

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Speaker 4: It's like a Google guys and all probably a bunch

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Speaker 5: I left.

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Speaker 6: Hey, I have. I have a guy, a friend of mine,

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Speaker 6: and I won't mention his name, but he's he's just

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Speaker 6: a Southern Louisiana back roads swamp boy that has done

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Speaker 6: very very well at business investments. And he doesn't do

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Speaker 1: He does.

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Speaker 6: He does like construction industry, companies. He's done very very

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Speaker 6: well for himself. And he left California and he moved

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Speaker 6: back to Louisiana and he moved out. Actually he left

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Speaker 6: loves he's married a girl from California. But he's like,

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Speaker 6: you know, it's it's you can't afford to live there anymore.

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Speaker 5: And it's up and down.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it's a registering your car in California

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's it's up and down. The price

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Speaker 3: of school, there's no school choice. You know, we moved

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Speaker 3: there's school tax, you know, choice, right, so you get

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Speaker 5: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: It's like, right off the bat, you're sevent yourself seventy

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Speaker 6: So my totally off subject here, but just California, how

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Speaker 6: they're aggressively going after everybody. My son back in twenty

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Speaker 6: rehabilitation was in Bakersfield, California. So we I literally lived

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Speaker 1: And I was talking about it.

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Speaker 6: At a you know, either on either on a show

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Speaker 6: I had to prove to them that I wasn't there

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Speaker 6: medical reasons. Had to get the literally doctor notes to

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Speaker 5: Geez, are you kidding me? That's not joking. Yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 5: That's a really amazing story. Uh.

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Speaker 3: So we're again we did not plan on talking about

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Speaker 3: any of this with the senator here because there's actual

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Speaker 3: we got to shut down by zooming and iron. But

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Speaker 3: this is this is I thought of this. This This

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Speaker 3: is Tamika.

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Speaker 1: Mallory by the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I'm telling you Red states are booming. The

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Speaker 3: But it's more than this. Look at what Mom Donnie

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Speaker 3: is doing in New York. Senator, this is Tamika Mallory.

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Speaker 3: I thought of this as we were talking. I had

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Speaker 3: the team grab it. This is the new crime advisor

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Speaker 3: that that Mom Donnie has appointed.

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Speaker 5: Play cut two eighty.

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Speaker 4: I don't give a damn if they burned down Target,

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Speaker 5: The streets with us calling for the justice. That are

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Speaker 5: what people deserve. Don't talk to us about looting. Y'ah

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Speaker 5: are the loots America has looted. But people.

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Speaker 3: America louted the Native Americans when they first came here.

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Speaker 5: Co Louting is what you do. We learned it from you.

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Speaker 5: We learned violence from you. Wow, that's Mom Donnie's new

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Speaker 5: crime advisor.

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Speaker 4: You know, at least why not make her.

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Speaker 5: Chief yet chief?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm Cherokee.

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Speaker 6: I'm only I know, I don't look at but I

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Speaker 6: I can't you know control who my ancestors loved. But

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Speaker 6: I am Cherokee. That's why we ended up in Oklahoma.

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Speaker 6: And my you know, I still carried I'm actually card

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Speaker 6: carrying Cherokee, not like because I have high cheap bones.

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Speaker 6: Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas.

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Speaker 1: Uh and so.

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Speaker 6: But when she said native Americans, I tell you what.

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Speaker 6: First of all, very seldom of all it's called Native Americans.

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Speaker 1: We're Indians.

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Speaker 6: But it's frustrating because there is no ethnic group that

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Speaker 6: And we're not out there rioting and causing that stuff

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Speaker 6: us into that picture. We respect the rule of law,

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Speaker 6: and we respect law enforcement. Me to love America regardless

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Speaker 6: of what happened to us. We're not out there trying

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Speaker 6: and we're proud of our tribes. But we fly the

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Speaker 6: carrying somebody else's flag or Samolian flags or Mexican flags.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're totally right. I mean Navajo Nation in Arizona,

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Speaker 3: they vote Republican. Yeah, so there you go, do Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they do conversation so that we actually ballot chasing. In

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Speaker 3: Navajo Nation, we have a whole like Cherokee team or

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I when I we have thirty six

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Speaker 6: in the second district. And we're a red state, completely

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Speaker 6: red state. All seventy seven counties and Oklahoma vote read.

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Speaker 6: And the only state that may have a higher concentration

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Speaker 6: of Native Americans is New Mexico. But I'm not sure

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Speaker 6: by that that that I don't think city.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Oklahoma is the most you know, you

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Speaker 3: guys got Supreme Court. That Supreme Court ruling, you know

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Speaker 5: Was that gors Yeah.

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Speaker 6: By the way, Gorsich is the prime example of why

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Speaker 6: Supreme courts need term limits. I mean, and I listen,

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Speaker 6: I come from a from a wrestling world, I come

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Speaker 3: So they did correct the record there, but it was

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Speaker 1: So see, I'm being very nice.

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Speaker 6: And the President has made it very clear that he

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Speaker 1: And I like to say this.

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Speaker 6: In nineteen seventy seven, when I was born, Iran was

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Speaker 6: Destroyed all that, and we'd love to have a relationship

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Speaker 1: I think we have a lot in common. There was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and listen, I I just you know,

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Speaker 5: I think that's absolutely what we should do. Moral support.

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Speaker 3: Maybe there's some stuff that you know, off the books,

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Speaker 1: Well, a regime change.

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Speaker 6: This is much different than the regime change you saw

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Speaker 6: But anytime you see a movement like this, leadership intents,

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Speaker 6: We're there to support the people and the event that

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Speaker 6: But when he decides to make a decision, actually hears

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Speaker 1: And JD has been very.

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Speaker 6: But he is probably one of the smartest guys you'll

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Speaker 3: yours honor to have our next guest, that is Lee Zelden,

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Speaker 3: who's running the EPA. Is doing an amazing job. One

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Speaker 3: of the one of the picks from Trump that I

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Speaker 3: only ever hear positive things about. Leezelden. Welcome back to

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Speaker 3: the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to have you.

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Speaker 7: It's great to be with the guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you got You are crushing it over there

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Speaker 3: at the EPA. And you know, we used to think

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Speaker 3: of the EPA as like this employment killer. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's just like this barrier to getting good things done,

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Speaker 3: being productive as an entrepreneur in the country.

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Speaker 5: You are changing that.

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking everything's great, everything great, And then I,

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Speaker 3: you know, trolled around Twitter yesterday and I see that

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Speaker 3: The New York Times is claiming Lee that you have

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Speaker 3: you stopped considering live saved when setting pollution limits and

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Speaker 3: instead calculate only on the cost of businesses. And I

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Speaker 3: loved it on Twitter. It's now getting slapped with a

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Speaker 3: community note because it's complete hogwashed, but it's gone viral

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Speaker 3: five point their tweet has five point one million views

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Speaker 3: because they are lying to people.

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Speaker 5: Correct, this is this is the news.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they like to write a headline like this to

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Speaker 7: freak people out, to twist what would actually be accurate

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Speaker 7: because they're trying to advance the narrative. It's amazing how

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Speaker 7: synced up they are with others in the left wing media,

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Speaker 7: Congressional Democrats, all of a sudden at once, they're all

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Speaker 7: advancing a narrative that is one hundred untrue. Of course,

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Speaker 7: we are going to be considering to factor in the

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Speaker 7: impact online when doing our job. Our core mission of

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Speaker 7: EPA is protecting human health and the environment. But what

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Speaker 7: we aren't going to do is just play along with

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Speaker 7: whatever the left wing strategy is of the day to

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Speaker 7: try to advance Trump arrangement syndrome.

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Speaker 1: At its highest level.

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Speaker 2: For us.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've rejected the notion that in order to

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Speaker 7: protect the environment you have to destroy the economy. We

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Speaker 7: inherited a mess and all sorts of different regulations that

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Speaker 7: amount into the trillions. We just saw some footage there

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Speaker 7: President Trump at a Ford factory.

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Speaker 1: There. In so many.

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Speaker 7: Different ways, the Obama and Biden administrations, with tailpipe emissions

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Speaker 7: and electric vehicle mandates, working with blue states like California,

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Speaker 7: have reduced consumer choice, have increased vehicle costs, and we

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Speaker 7: inherited this mess and decided with this Trump mandate, president

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Speaker 7: Trump winning all the battleground states, winning the popular vote.

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Speaker 7: We're going to fix all of it at once. And

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Speaker 7: whether it's sending the Congress the three Biden EP waivers

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Speaker 7: to California that gave them permission to do their electric

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Speaker 7: vehicle mandate, which Congress then passed the resolutions to reject

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Speaker 7: and President Trump signed, it's the change to cafe standards

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Speaker 7: that you saw a Secretary Duffy announced with President Trump

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Speaker 7: at the Oval Office a few weeks It's the proposed

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Speaker 7: repeal of the two thousand and nine Endangerment Finding and

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Speaker 7: all of the greenhouse gas emissions on light, medium and

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Speaker 7: heavy duty vehicles that followed, and that start stop, that annoying,

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Speaker 7: almost universally hated stop feature on these cars, that we're

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Speaker 7: getting rid of, the off cycle credits, all in one proposal,

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Speaker 7: which if finalized, would be the largest active deregulation in

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Speaker 7: the history of the United States of America. We are

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Speaker 7: going to push back on the left with their false narratives,

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Speaker 7: their untruthed the mess of regulation that we inherited, and

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Speaker 7: our goals to fix everything and to do it truthfully,

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Speaker 7: promoting gold standard science and fulfilling that Trump mandate that

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Speaker 7: the American public voted for.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's exciting.

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Speaker 4: It just strikes me the EPA, the writer has always

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Speaker 4: had to play in this unfair playing field where if

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Speaker 4: you the Biden administration or the bomb administration does something

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Speaker 4: not so to pursue a political agenda, and then if

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Speaker 4: you repeal it, you have this panic attack where it's, ah,

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Speaker 4: they're rolling back the environmental Well that's exactly, I mean exactly,

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Speaker 4: that's not how we live in the nineties.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the headline, that's the implication. That's what they

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Speaker 3: want to do. This is pravda. This is fake that

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Speaker 3: they want to imply that you don't care about people's lives,

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Speaker 3: that Trump administration does not care about people's lives, when

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Speaker 3: the exact opposite is true, and we're actually creating an

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Speaker 3: opportunity for growth again in this country and getting rid

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Speaker 3: of nonsense regulations. Now, this is what's funny about having

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Speaker 3: you on today. We had Senator Mark Wayne Mullin and

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Speaker 3: he was talking about gas prices at a dollar eighty

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Speaker 3: three in some counties in Oklahoma. You clap back at

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Speaker 3: the gun Gavinor Gavin Newsom's press off office.

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Speaker 5: I loved this one. By the way, this is image

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Speaker 5: three oh three.

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Speaker 3: So Governor Gavin Newsom's press office is bragging about the

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Speaker 3: fact that, you know, in California, gas prices hit lowest

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Speaker 3: levels in years. Here's what drivers will pay. So he's

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Speaker 3: taken credit for what you and the president are doing. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: what is around I think average price around four dollars

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Speaker 3: for twenty I just googled it this morning in California

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Speaker 3: and you got a buck eighty three in Oklahoma? Why

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Speaker 3: is why are you calling uh, let's just say garbage

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Speaker 3: on this this note from Governor Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because California could have lower gas prices if the

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Speaker 7: left wing Democrats who are destroying, pummeling that state into

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Speaker 7: the ground, would be advancing great energy policies like you're

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Speaker 7: seeing in states where energy costs so much less, where

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Speaker 7: it costs less to heat your home, to fill up

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Speaker 7: your gas tank, where people are able to make their

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Speaker 7: dollars stretch further because they're people in government at the

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Speaker 7: state level who are advancing smart energy policies. But in California,

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Speaker 7: Governor k Newso and the Democrats running the legislature have

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Speaker 7: been beholden to the far left. Many of them are

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Speaker 7: part of the far left, pandering the far left and

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Speaker 7: pushing these energy and environmental policies that are driving so

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Speaker 7: many Californians to leave their state permanently for good. President

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Speaker 7: Trump has been able to, through his policies, reduce gas

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Speaker 7: prices to under three dollars in forty three states across

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Speaker 7: the country. California is not one of them, and that

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Speaker 7: is because of these people at the state level in

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Speaker 7: the Capitol of California pushing these bad energy and environment policies.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I think that if those Democrats in California

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Speaker 7: wanted to truly be part of the progress, maybe they

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Speaker 7: rather than doing what they have been doing, creating a

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Speaker 7: mess that's been increasing gas prices. And it's the reason

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Speaker 7: why that list isn't for instead of forty three is

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Speaker 7: because of these people who are bragging now and trying

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Speaker 7: to take credit for the progress that President Trump has

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Speaker 7: been delivering since the moment he came back into office.

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Speaker 3: It's so like brazen, that's what I can't get over.

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Speaker 3: So they have their average gas prices in California are

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Speaker 3: dollar forty above the national average, except four twenty one,

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Speaker 3: it's a dollar forty above the national average. And you

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Speaker 3: have Gavin Newsome taking a bow saying, look at what

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Speaker 3: I've done in the state of California, when everybody with

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Speaker 3: a brain knows this is because President Trump's policies. What

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Speaker 3: you guys are doing at the EPA, it's just I

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Speaker 3: mean you you almost have to tip your hat at

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Speaker 3: the brazenness of the lie, like the fact that the

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Speaker 3: fact that he's willing to do this on Twitter when

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Speaker 3: he knows the administrator the EPA is gonna come out

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Speaker 3: and knock him for Another question we have lee here

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Speaker 3: is that we we we're kind of looking at utility

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Speaker 3: prices as well. Are we seeing those drop commensurate with

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Speaker 3: the price of energy in other ways, like gas prices.

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Speaker 7: There's such a huge difference in red states and blue states.

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Speaker 7: And you know, we saw, for example, President Trump's from

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Speaker 7: pushing this pipeline called Constitution Pipeline to deliver a natural

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Speaker 7: gas from Pennsylvania into New England. The New Englanders need

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Speaker 7: natural gas. It would reduce our reliance on foreign sources

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Speaker 7: of energy. It would make energy prices more affordable, and

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Speaker 7: it's being blocked by the left wing. And you look

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Speaker 7: at you compare policies in red states where it costs

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Speaker 7: so much less to heat your home than when you

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Speaker 7: look at these Democrat run states. It's not a coincidence,

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Speaker 7: you know, It's not like there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: Else to it.

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Speaker 7: No, that it actually tells a pretty big story when

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Speaker 7: you compare the price differential between the two states. Now,

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Speaker 7: all across the entire country, the numbers were going up

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Speaker 7: big time when President Biden was in office. The policies

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Speaker 7: of his administration all sorts of new regulation and a

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Speaker 7: favoring intermittent sources over base load power. President Trump understands

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Speaker 7: the need to ramp up baseload power in this country.

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Speaker 7: He understands the need to unleash energy dominance. He wants

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Speaker 7: to see more pipelines being built, thankfully they now are.

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Speaker 7: He wants to see more power plants being built. President

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Speaker 7: Trump has saved a clean, beautiful coal. President Trump has

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Speaker 7: been getting new nuclear sites online. I've been at groundbreakings

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Speaker 7: all across this country. Idaho Falls, Idaho new nuclear facility.

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Speaker 7: I was there for the groundbreaking. I was in West Memphis,

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Speaker 7: Arkansas where a four billion dollar data center was being built,

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Speaker 7: and it was built with a partnership with Arkansas that

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Speaker 7: provides a net benefit to rate payers the red state policies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is my question for you, mister administrator, is

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Speaker 3: what so you've got all these new data centers going

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Speaker 3: up right? They we know that it's we need it

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Speaker 3: for to fuel the AI revolution. We know that the

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Speaker 3: President Trump and the administration. You guys at the EPA

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Speaker 3: have made this a core tenant. We want to be

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Speaker 3: the AI center, crypto center, but that takes a ton

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Speaker 3: of energy. Are we worried that these new demands from

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Speaker 3: these data centers? Obviously Arkansas is a good example of

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Speaker 3: it not being a concern, but because they're building capacity.

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Speaker 3: But are we worried that these data centers are going

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Speaker 3: to drive up prices for consumers at home.

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Speaker 7: It's all about how you do it, Andrew. And when

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Speaker 7: you reference that West Memphis, Arkansas example, you have a

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Speaker 7: partnership with the State of Arkansas and energy where the

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Speaker 7: ratepayers end up receiving a net benefit, not a net cost,

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Speaker 7: a net benefit because of that project, by the way,

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Speaker 7: over a billion dollars. So you get the jobs for

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Speaker 7: the construction, you get the jobs long term, because we're

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Speaker 7: talking about a multi billion dollar project in Arkansas, and

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Speaker 7: what do you have in Arkansas that really makes it

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Speaker 7: all possible?

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Speaker 1: Nuclear energy.

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Speaker 7: We have retrofits that are going on across the country.

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Speaker 7: We have small and large new builds. President Trump has

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Speaker 7: saved plants that we're going to go under.

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Speaker 1: At EPA. We have been.

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Speaker 7: Pushing forth regulatory proposals that would allow more plants to

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Speaker 7: be built, to streamline the process, to make sure that

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Speaker 7: it takes less time, it costs less money, there's more

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Speaker 7: certainty when making this investment. See when President Trump talks

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Speaker 7: about trillions of dollars of new investment coming to this country.

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Speaker 7: This isn't some hypothetical claim of something that might happen

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Speaker 7: years from now. The ground is being broken all across

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Speaker 7: America already of these massive new investments that are taking place,

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Speaker 7: and we're just going to keep it going. We'll end

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Speaker 7: up with more finalized deregulatory actions at one agency at

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Speaker 7: the EPA in one year the entire federal governments have

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Speaker 7: done in the past across all federal agencies, across entire presidencies,

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Speaker 7: were finalizing deregulatory actions into the trillions of dollars, and

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Speaker 7: we're proud of it. And we're going to continue to

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Speaker 7: stay focused no matter what you know The New York Times,

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Speaker 3: All right, we have updates coming from Scotis. There's a

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Speaker 3: few clips here that our team is pooling right now.

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Speaker 3: You you had one, I could you read it to

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Speaker 3: us or do we need to wait for the clip?

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Speaker 5: This was the Alito clip.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, where the ACLU was forced to admit and

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Speaker 3: we're talking, of course about there's a case before the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court about trans sports trans athletes.

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Speaker 4: This, by the way, you see all right here we

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Speaker 4: got it. So this is supposedly I don't have the

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Speaker 4: audio clip, but.

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Speaker 5: This is we're watching it.

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Speaker 4: Uh Alito to decide if there is discrimination on the

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Speaker 4: basis of sex under Title nine, we need to define

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Speaker 4: what sex is right and the A c l U

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Speaker 4: says yes. So Alio says, what does it mean to

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Speaker 4: be a man or a woman, a boy or a girl?

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Speaker 4: A CLU says, we do not have a definition for

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Speaker 4: the court.

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Speaker 3: You know, it reminded me because you told me this

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Speaker 3: in the break and I was like, that's this is

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Speaker 3: why Charlie was so good. He he just stuck on

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Speaker 3: this question again and again and again because he knew

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Speaker 4: It just think it actually short circuits a lot of

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Speaker 4: their imagine if they just had to go Imagine if

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Speaker 4: they tried to run past Alito with a well, it's

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Speaker 4: if you define as a woman, then you're a woman.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm feeling very negative about the Supreme Court currently

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Speaker 3: because I'm expecting them to come down against Trump's tariffs.

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Speaker 3: And then we have Senator Mark Wayne Mullen saying some

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Speaker 3: not nice things about Neil Gorsicch Justice Gorsicch, and then

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Speaker 3: you've got you know, Amy Cony Barrett is basically saying

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Speaker 3: similar is like calling them trans girls. There's a boy

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Speaker 3: and there's a girl, and there that's what the options are.

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Speaker 3: There's this trans girl stuff. Is is it's not a

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Speaker 3: good start. It's not a good start that they're actually

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Speaker 3: misrepresenting the sex.

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Speaker 5: Of the the the children.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting that Kavanaugh does seem the most on our

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Speaker 4: side because Kavanaugh was annoying in that I can't remember

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Speaker 4: the name of it, but the gay rights case that

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Speaker 4: was during the Trump first admins.

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Speaker 5: Oh uh, Burgerfel.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't that. It was well so now that I

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Speaker 4: think about, I actually think he ruled our way. But

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Speaker 4: he did right. It was like an annoying thing where

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Speaker 4: it was when they ruled that like gender identity was

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Speaker 4: a protected class, I thought, right well, and then in

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Speaker 4: the ruling he says, like, I ruled against this, but

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Speaker 4: I want to applaud you guys, because you've made a

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Speaker 4: lot of progress over the last few years. I'm just

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Speaker 4: really happy.

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Speaker 3: I have a theory on Kavanaugh that he got he

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Speaker 3: got red pilled during the.

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Speaker 4: Com People have speculated on that.

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Speaker 5: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I truthfully, I don't think his record bears that out

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Speaker 4: because he's been lived on stuff.

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Speaker 5: He's been more good than bad overall.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think. I don't think he People have

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Speaker 4: reacted to him by going, wow, he's way more conservative

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Speaker 4: than we anticipated. And it must be because the problem

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Speaker 4: he's basically gone.

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Speaker 5: The problem with the Supreme.

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Speaker 3: Court right now is that Trump's first term. We have

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Speaker 3: some kind of they're not swings and misses, but they're

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Speaker 3: not they're not dominant, right, they're not an alito, they're

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Speaker 3: not a here we go right behind your head, right here,

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Speaker 3: Clarence Thomas favorite Supreme fame.

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Speaker 4: It's worth noting, Yeah, like, probably you know the best.

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Speaker 4: The two best Supreme Court justices we have were picked

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Speaker 4: by two bushes.

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Speaker 5: Well and they're a little older now.

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Speaker 4: Both of them are old. And the trouble is what

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Speaker 4: I've heard. I remember speaking with someone who knew the

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Speaker 4: court well, and the problem was was, like Alito and Thomas,

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Speaker 4: they both kind of react to the vibe around them.

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Speaker 4: So they get depressed when it's a liberal presidency and

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Speaker 4: you know, if they feel or if they feel outnumbered

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Speaker 4: on the court. But when they don't feel at numbered,

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Speaker 4: when it's when they're getting good cases, they get excited

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Speaker 4: and they enjoy being a justice, and then they're less

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Speaker 4: likely to retire. And that's a bother because you know,

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Speaker 4: it is it has to be said. Justice Thomas especially

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Speaker 4: is old. It would strategically be sound for him to

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Speaker 4: retire now rather than I mean, even if he were

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Speaker 4: to wait another year, if we've lost the Senate through

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Speaker 4: some fluke or if it's one, you know, one vote margin,

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Speaker 4: then they couldn.

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Speaker 3: See seventy seven, Yeah, seventy seven years old, born in

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Speaker 3: nineteen forty eight, and he's he is an amazing He's

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Speaker 3: an incredible Alito is amazing.

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Speaker 5: What's Alito's age?

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's that muchy He's certainly not youth.

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Speaker 3: I think he's as well we'll find out. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: it up right now, seventy five years old. He be

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Speaker 3: born in nineteen fifty, so they're both. Let's let's play

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Speaker 3: a clip here from Alito questioning this. Kathleen Martinetti, the

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Speaker 3: attorney arguing before the Supreme Court case, I think on

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Speaker 3: behalf of trans sports rights or whatever.

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Speaker 5: Three zero nine.

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Speaker 9: Well, that has a boys, let's say, track team and

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Speaker 9: a girls track team. A student who has the genes

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Speaker 9: and the reproductive system of a male and had those

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Speaker 9: at birth, and he's never taken puberty blockers, never taken

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Speaker 9: a female hormones, never had any gender altering or affirming surgery,

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Speaker 9: says nevertheless, I am a woman. That's who I am.

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Speaker 9: Can the school say no, you cannot participate on the

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Speaker 9: girls team?

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Speaker 4: Yes, they can, but.

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Speaker 9: That person is that person not a woman in your understanding.

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Speaker 9: If the person says I sincerely believe I a woman,

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Speaker 9: I am in fact woman, I think that person not

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Speaker 9: a woman.

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Speaker 2: I would respect their self identity, and addressing the person.

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Speaker 3: Self identity, I would respect their pronouns.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's the big picture thing is is

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Speaker 4: neither of them They're not imminently at death's door. No,

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Speaker 4: but and we have had justices who made it two

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Speaker 4: ninety I believe Stevens did, and he only he lived

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Speaker 4: a long time after he retired too.

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Speaker 5: Well, you got the Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

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Speaker 4: Exactly though, So you can have people if you do

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Speaker 4: not choose the time of your retirement, God will choose

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Speaker 4: the time of your retirement. It may not be the

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Speaker 4: time that men would prefer. And so we have to

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Speaker 4: think about that. And we have to think about these

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Speaker 4: Supreme Court appointments because I don't think the three appointments

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Speaker 4: we made, none of them were catastrophic. They're not We

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Speaker 4: had suitor who was picked by a Republican and became

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Speaker 4: a liberal member of the court. But they're also not

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Speaker 4: home runs. And we're also seeing how issues have evolved.

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Speaker 4: So for decades, the top concern of a lot of

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Speaker 4: conservatives was, oh, we need to overturn Roey Wade, for example.

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Speaker 4: We now have that we need to be thinking about

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Speaker 4: what are the other issues that we're looking towards. And

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Speaker 4: so for example, now it's a much bigger deal. You

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Speaker 4: have to have justices who are ready to overturn you know,

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Speaker 4: the Dei regime, the anti white, anti male discrimination, stuff,

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Speaker 4: really enforced that stuff, and not everyone is great on that,

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Speaker 4: and you have to make sure you're getting justices who

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Speaker 4: will be skilled at that and also skilled at the

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Speaker 4: coalition building aspect of it. And I talk to people

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Speaker 4: who are clerks lawyers, and they have a lot of

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Speaker 4: a lot of interesting takes on this, because there are

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Speaker 4: judges who might be really good on the ideology stuff,

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Speaker 4: but they alienate people. And then there are judges who

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Speaker 4: are good on the ideology stuff, but they're also very

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Speaker 4: good at that back room dealing stuff, and it's very

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Speaker 4: interesting to.

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Speaker 5: Talk to them. Yeah, you have a lot of connections

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Speaker 5: within within this area.

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Speaker 3: You're always talking to clerks and you back channel with

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Speaker 3: a lot of these people. So I take your word

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Speaker 3: for this, I think there. I will tell you I

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Speaker 3: not too long ago, I was back east, was in DC,

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Speaker 3: and I was meeting with some people that this is

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Speaker 3: all they focus on. It is picking and sifting through

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Speaker 3: the potential nominees for a next Supreme Court justice. And

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Speaker 3: there's already names being floated, they're being vetted right now,

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you. So there's work being done, and there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of disagreement about who's going to be the best,

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Speaker 3: who's going to be the right pick. But it's very

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Speaker 3: possible that Trump will have another pick or potentially two, and.

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Speaker 4: We might have a majority Trump chosen Supreme Court, and

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Speaker 4: it would be a huge miss if that's not an

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Speaker 4: amazing Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that don't want it to just

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Speaker 3: go through the Federalist Society again.

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Speaker 5: So that's a whole can of worms for another day.

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Speaker 7: For more on many of these stories and news you

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