1 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of 2 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: hours of Dennis's lectures, courses in classic radio programs, and 3 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles, go to Dennisprager dot com. 4 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: Hi everybody, It's Tuesday, and when possible, I have the 5 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: Ultimate Issues Hour. Because if you get the Ultimate Issues right, 6 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: you will have a much better life. You will lead 7 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: a better life, and you will make a better society. 8 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: And it's a pretty good combination. So I'd like to 9 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: talk to you today about what is it that children 10 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: really need? And here is my thesis which explains much 11 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: of what has called a deterioration, massive deterioration in our 12 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: society over the last century and particularly half century. So 13 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: let me put it in this way. What do you 14 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: think children need more expressions of love or security, expressions 15 00:01:47,680 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: of love or guardrails meaning you can't do this, and 16 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: you must do that, you can't do this, and you 17 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: must do that. Which do you think will produce a 18 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: happier and finer human being. I don't know exactly why 19 00:02:13,079 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: it happened, I will admit that, and maybe some people 20 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: do know what. I would love to learn why, But 21 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: I have one theory because I can date it. The 22 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: World War two generation decided that what their children most 23 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: need is love, expressions of love. I love you, I 24 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: love you, I love you. Have I told you how 25 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: much I love you? And that's fine if it's accompanied 26 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: by security and guardrails. Guardrails is you'll fall off unless 27 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: you follow the following rules of life. There are no 28 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 2: guardrails in a home without discipline as the best way 29 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: of I guess explaining what guardrails means. And so after 30 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: the love preoccupation came unconditional love preoccupation. Not only should 31 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: you tell your child how much you love him or her, 32 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: but that it is unconditional that no matter how your 33 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: child behaves, your child will just receive effusive love, effusive 34 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: expressions of love. You can tell I'm not a big 35 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: believer in this, and I love my children. They know 36 00:03:53,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: I love them. But my primary concentration was on guardrails 37 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: and security. Here's how to lead a better life. This 38 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: is what you need to do. To be kind and 39 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: to be good. You have to pursue truth, all these 40 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: values values, And I tried to be a model, obviously 41 00:04:22,039 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: not obviously, I also tried to be a model. That's 42 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: a very big deal in the raising of children. When 43 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: did this whole love preoccupation begin is a very interesting question, 44 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 2: and we'll get into that one eighth Prager seven seven six, Hi, everybody, 45 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: Ultimate Issues Hour on raising children? Do you agree, disagree, 46 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: partially agree, partially disagree. We've overdone it on the expressions 47 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: of love to the detriment of moral instruction, which includes discipline. 48 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: So we went from parents primarily teaching their kids' values, 49 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: to then primarily expressing how much they love them, to 50 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: then announcing to the world how important not just love 51 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: but unconditional love, the message of which is, no matter 52 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: how you behave, your mom and dad will love you, 53 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: no matter how you behave. I'm curious, does anybody, there's 54 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: any rational individual think you will get good behavior from 55 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: people who are told you're being love. You will be 56 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: loved no matter how you behave. That's why, by the way, 57 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm not a fan. This is a theological discussion for 58 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: another time. I've had it with you on the Ultimate 59 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: Issues Hour. I'm not a fan of saying God unconditionally 60 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 2: loves and I don't even know what the biblical basis is. 61 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: I know the biblical basis of God's love for humanity, 62 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: but unconditionally, I don't know where the basis is, whether 63 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: it's behavior or faith. You've got to do something. You 64 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: just you can't go on the way you were before 65 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: and still be loved. Or maybe you're loved, but you're 66 00:06:51,480 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: not saved, at least in Christian terms. So it changed 67 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: the way children were raised. That is the root of 68 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: the civilizational decline. The spoiled brats at Harvard, these nothings, 69 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: these narcissistic, arrogant, immoral nothings. Not all Harvard students, my 70 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: dear Julie, who might have a podcast with, went to Harvard. 71 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: I know some terrific people who went to Harvard. My 72 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: brother went to Harvard. But by and large, I'm using 73 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: Harvard as an example because the most prestigious university, and 74 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: they have a particularly high percentage of a holes for 75 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: students and faculty. One might add those faculty were raised 76 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: the way I'm describing the oldest faculty is still post 77 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: World War two. The praise that I hear parents give 78 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: to their children is beyond belief. Everything is awesome. I mean, 79 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: the word awesome deserves its own ultimate issues. Hour you'll 80 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: give an order to a waiter a waitress. Yeah, I 81 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: say I'll have I'll have a side of of coast 82 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: law awesome. I'm thinking, why is the side of coast 83 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: law awesome? Would a side of fries be awesome too? Yeah? 84 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: I suspect so, But a side of bruccoli awesome? How 85 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: about I won't have a side awesome? So no side 86 00:08:54,040 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: or any side is awesome awesome. It was reserved historically 87 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: in the English language for that which inspires awe. You know, 88 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: running the four minute mile, climbing everest, saving a kid's 89 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: life who fell into an icy pond. That's those things 90 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: are awesome. But the praise, the praise that is offered 91 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: to kids, the unconditional love. So it produces these people 92 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: who expect life to present them with constant love and 93 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: attention and praise. A lap. It's known as lap. Yes, 94 00:09:55,240 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: so in fact, sit on my lap. It comes from love, attention, praise. 95 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: That is where the word lap comes from. Look it up, sean, yep, 96 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: that's right, Sit on my left attention. What was the 97 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: piece for you? Praise you? Let me give you more love, 98 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: attention and praise. Then then people get these spoiled narcissists 99 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: in wonder. I don't understand. I so loved them, so 100 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: loved him, so loved her. Believe it or not, most 101 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: children that's not what they most need. Now. The opposite 102 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: of love, hate, abuse, et cetera. Is evil that goes 103 00:10:54,920 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 2: without saying but oodles of love. I don't. I don't know. 104 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: It's not necessarily bad because if it's accompanied by guardrails, discipline, 105 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: et cetera, it could be fine. But I don't. I 106 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: don't know how important it is. The other thing. I 107 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: don't have an answer to this, but how often if 108 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: you tell your child how much you love them? At 109 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: what point? And maybe there is no point. I have 110 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: no answer to this, But at what point does it 111 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: begin to lack meaning? Maybe? Never? Okay, I'm totally okay 112 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 2: with that. I don't have an answer to it. 113 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 114 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 115 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: Okay, let's see here, yep, Dave in Atlanta, Georgia. 116 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: Hello, Yeah, they're just wanted to say. I agree with 117 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: what you're saying, and really, true love includes discipline. It's 118 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: just that sorry, it's raining here pretty hard. But the 119 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: reason God disciplines us is because he loves us. So 120 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: a parent child relationship is no different. And we discipline 121 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 3: our kids because we love them. We want them to 122 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: be good people and not just tell them yes all 123 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: the time, because you tell them yes all the time. 124 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: And that's where the entitlement comes from. No respect for 125 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 3: our authority or for our elders. I grew up respecting 126 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: my elders, and that's what's going on nowadays. It seems 127 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: like and if you tell them no, it's considered emotional abuse. 128 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: I agree with you, that's correct. The interesting I would 129 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: be very curious to have some I don't know if 130 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: it's doable, but I would be curious in the extra 131 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: to juxtapose children raised in religious Jewish and Christians homes 132 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: Christian homes and children raised in secular homes. I'm not 133 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: even asking now for the result, although that would be 134 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: obviously important and interesting. But the methodology. You know, I've 135 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: told you that as far as unconditional love is concerned, 136 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: there is a metric in Google. It's a astonishing thing 137 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: that it exists, which tells you how often a phrase 138 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: or I think even a word is used was used. 139 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: Starting in the early twentieth century starting in nineteen hundred, 140 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: and if you look up unconditional love, it's virtually at 141 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: zero until the nineteen fifties, and then its skyrockets like 142 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: a ski slope in the nineteen sixties. So interestingly, this 143 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: notion did not come from the religious community. It came 144 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: from the sixties anti religious value system. So when Christians, 145 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: it's usually Christians in this case more than Jews. When 146 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: religious Christians as opposed to religious Jews, secular Jews might 147 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: say the same speak of unconditional love. They don't know 148 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: they've been influenced by secular society. Back in a moment, 149 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: What so lap I like that on love, attention, praise, 150 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: I got a question for you. I'm talking about the 151 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: bombardment of expressions of love on children and how it's 152 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: not worked out. Things they need more. Here here's an 153 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: interesting one. I just thought about this. So think about 154 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: your childhood. What would you have preferred your parent between 155 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: the two things They're telling you how much they love 156 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: you or telling you how much they admire you. I 157 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: don't have an answer, but it just occurred to me 158 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: to ask the question. Yeah, anyway, I think that the 159 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: expressions of love I think love has been sort of 160 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: cheapened in the last what is it, Well, not one 161 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: hundred years, but since the post World War two era 162 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: were approaching one hundred years. Okay, let's see here what 163 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: you folks have to say. William and Ryan, who you are? Killow? 164 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: Good day to you, Dennis. But coast law is much 165 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 4: better than broccoli. Neither is awesome, but coast law. 166 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,239 Speaker 2: Anyway, No, no, it's a fair point. Although broccoli properly 167 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: flavored with salt and seasoning could be delicious, but go ahead, right. 168 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, So, when younger brother and I were teenagers, my 169 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 4: father caught my younger brother smoking pots and he sat 170 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 4: us boat down with his mother, with my mother standing 171 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: next to him. Uh, and he said to my brother, Uh, 172 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 4: you're not going to do this again. If I catch 173 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: you doing anything like it, I'm gonna do to you 174 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 4: what the boxers in China that did two addicts during 175 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: the Opium War. Do you know what that is? And 176 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 4: of course my brother and nobody told him that they 177 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 4: the box blew literally blew the brains out of the 178 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 4: opium attics. And my brother started to well up a bit, 179 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 4: and he was a tough kid. And then my father 180 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 4: just looked at him and said, listen, I have to 181 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 4: do this because I'm your father. I love you, and 182 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: that's why I do this. Now get out of here, 183 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: you know. And that was it and my brother never 184 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 4: did it again. 185 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: So well. I have a lot of anecdotes about that, 186 00:17:55,359 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: some of which I think some listeners will recall, but 187 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 2: it's worth it. I did an hour on the on 188 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: the show many really many years ago. If you didn't 189 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: take drugs in high school or didn't use drugs in 190 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: high school, well I didn't you. I had no idea 191 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 2: what answers I would get. I was curious of what 192 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: prevented people who didn't use that from using them. And 193 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: it was fascinating. Caller after caller said, because my mother 194 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: would kill me, you wouldn't have that today. My mother 195 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: would kill me. Anybody who said that, and it was 196 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: overheard by child Protective services the parent might lose custody 197 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: of their child. I have another great one, a friend 198 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: of my younger son. When it does the podcast ap Unfiltered, 199 00:18:53,000 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Prager unfiltered one word and he was addicted for 200 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: a number of years. He's been sober for seven and 201 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: he's really is leading a wonderful, productive life. So I 202 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: met some of his closest friends, also covering addicts, and 203 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: one of them said to me, you know, I, oh 204 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: my father, my life. I said, really, how so? Because 205 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: one day he said to me, get the f out 206 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: of my house and come don't come back until you're sober. 207 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: So now, I know many of you will say, well, 208 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: that was a loving thing to do. Okay, I agree 209 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: with you, and it was a loving thing to do. 210 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: But he didn't say I love you. It was get 211 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: the f out of my house and don't come back 212 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: to your sober He didn't tell him how much he 213 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: loved him. All right, let's see what else you folks 214 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: have to say on this. Oh okay, no don in 215 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 2: Jolton the Sea. 216 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 5: Hi, Dennis, how you doing. 217 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: So? 218 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 5: I believe that this unconditional love has come as a 219 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 5: misrepresentation of what my theology is, which is a reformed 220 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 5: theology whereby my salvation was paid in full at the 221 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 5: cross by Christ. But before my salvation and after my 222 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 5: salvation is meritorious. In other words, the sins I've committed 223 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 5: before I was saved, I would pay the just penalty 224 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 5: for those sins now. As one of his elect, that is, 225 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 5: He chose me before the foundation of the world. By 226 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 5: the way, this is the same for Jews, where in 227 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 5: Romans eleven it says not all Israel are of Israel, 228 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 5: and he said, Jacob, I loved Esa, I hate it. 229 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 5: This is all meeted out in Romans nine, whereby God 230 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 5: has determined my eternal destiny at the cross. But before 231 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 5: and after is a meritocracy. I'm going to receive a 232 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 5: reward at the end of my life, and it's going 233 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 5: to be based on what I did after I was 234 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 5: saved at the cross. 235 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: That what is the name of that theology that's fascinating. 236 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's called reform theology. And I so then it's. 237 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: A theology where works, in addition to belief save you. 238 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 5: Yes, works after you say it gives evidence that I 239 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 5: have been said. 240 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: I think that's great. I wish I wish that were 241 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: the universal teaching. If you don't behave properly, it means 242 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: that you're you're not saved. You're not saved alone by 243 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: works alone. That's it's obviously basic Christianity. But you're not 244 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: saved without works. That's an important message. 245 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 246 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 247 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: Yes, we have overdone it with expressions of love for children. 248 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I know it sounds cruel. It's not. It's 249 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 2: actually quite loving. A staggering number of entitled young people 250 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: are ruining this country, and they have since the Baby Boomers, 251 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: since my generation. After all, who taught these kids to 252 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: loathe everything beautiful, including beauty? It was the Baby Boomer generation, 253 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: but they also got it from somebody. Oh right, let's 254 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: see here. Patrick Mammoth, Springs, Arkansas. 255 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, mister Prager. I love your show and I 256 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 6: love how you bring clarity to these issues. 257 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 258 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 6: First of all, let me say I agree completely with 259 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 6: what the conclusion you've come to. I'm what's called an evangelical. 260 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 6: I'm sure you know what that is, but I'm also 261 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 6: a Reformed evangelical, which helps me, helps maybe helps you 262 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 6: understand that I could see unconditional love very very narrowly, 263 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 6: and not as though God loves everybody equally. The Reformed theology, 264 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 6: as your previous caller said, qualifies that faith without works 265 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 6: is dead, as it says in James to seventeen, and 266 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 6: if a Christian doesn't recognize that the vast majority of 267 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 6: people who call aim to know Christ or not living 268 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 6: according to what the New Testament says they should be, 269 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 6: then they're severely blinded. 270 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: Good You wanted to call up about the Hebrew Word. 271 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 6: Has said, Yes, I studied out the origins of how 272 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 6: this could have happened in evangelical circles that unconditional love 273 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 6: was bandied about as it was, and I came up 274 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 6: with in the Old Testament translated goodness, mercy, numerous other 275 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 6: loving kindness. The Word has said. And if you look 276 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 6: at if you're trying to find how the apostles in 277 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 6: the first century came up with this idea which we 278 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 6: now call unconditional love, I think you can find it 279 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 6: in the two hundred and forty seven times that have 280 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 6: said is used. 281 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting. I had never heard that, and of 282 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: course I know biblical Hebrew well, and I've never heard 283 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: it as unconditional. The most famous use of it might 284 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: be what they call in Judaism, the thirteen attributes of God. 285 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: Let me see, so it's let's see, okay, this is 286 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: always a challenge. So God is el Rahum, a god 287 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: of mercy, the hanun and kindness, or however hanun would 288 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: be translated. Ralph has said, filled with hesseid your term 289 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: the ammet and truth. So and then there there's more 290 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: about God. So this is essential, but it's nowhere does 291 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: it imply unconditional. So that's what I was aiming for 292 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: and trying to review the verse. All right, anyway, I 293 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: thank you. I do thank you for your call. Yep, 294 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: Chicago and Rose, Hello Rose, I Donna. 295 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 7: I was just going to say, I believe there has 296 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 7: to be a balance that a child who has many 297 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 7: rules and boundaries and does not feel that they are 298 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 7: loved by their parents, it brings insecurity and rebellion. I 299 00:26:55,040 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 7: believe love is extremely important that they know that that 300 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 7: their mom and dad is going to love them no 301 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 7: matter what. And I do believe the Bible teaches. I 302 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 7: do agree with the reform theology. I believe that my 303 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 7: Savior loves me unconditionally. My assurance is not in how 304 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 7: good I am, but in the sacrifice that my Savior 305 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 7: bore for me to take my sin upon himself. Also, 306 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 7: I was going to say, God didn't give up at me. 307 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 7: I went through a time of rebellion in my teen 308 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 7: years and in college I was ashamed when a Christian 309 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 7: came up to me and started talking to me about Jesus, 310 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 7: and I was embarrassed. And in spite of all that, 311 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 7: Jesus led me to himself and became my lord, the 312 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 7: lord of my life and my savior, and my life 313 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 7: changed that. 314 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 4: What happened him. 315 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 7: And I believe I had way more love after I 316 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 7: became a Christian than a love that centered on peasing 317 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 7: me making me happy. 318 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: Right, So I have a question. Hold on, I'll pose 319 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: a question when you return. So I have a question. 320 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: Is our lady still here rose in Chicago? Thank you good? 321 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: Did you have children or do you have children? 322 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: Yes? 323 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 7: I had four children. 324 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: They're grown now, I would assume, so here I was 325 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: just this is a curiosity question. So let me see. 326 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: I wrote it down during the break. Did you convey 327 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: the message to your children no matter what they did, 328 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: no matter how awful they would ever be thought others, 329 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: you would still love them. 330 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 7: I never studied in those words, but I do believe 331 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 7: my children knew that I would love them no matter 332 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 7: what I would tell them sometimes when I had to 333 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 7: discipline them, and I was pretty strict that I love 334 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 7: you too, much to let you get away with this, 335 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 7: and I don't think they ever doubt it, my love, So. 336 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: It isn't it is. It's a tough question, and I'm 337 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: not arguing with you at all, And you know I 338 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: don't hesitate to argue if I have to, but I'm 339 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 2: not arguing with you. So it's a very interesting moral 340 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: question as well as anything else religious or pedagogic. I mean, 341 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: what if one's not not yours or any more mine? 342 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: Just in general, what if one's child commits a heinous 343 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: act of rape and murder? Do we want them? Do 344 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: we want them to think? I'm not asking would we 345 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: still love them? Because parental love might be immutable, but 346 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: do we want to convey to our children. I just 347 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: want you to know, I mean, would we say it? 348 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what evil you commit, I will still 349 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: love you. You would not have said that to your child, right. 350 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 7: I don't think I would have said that, But I 351 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 7: think by my actions that I would never give up 352 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 7: on them repenting from a horrible wickedness, that I would 353 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 7: never stop praying for them or loving them, even though 354 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 7: my heart would grieve. 355 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: Right, And I know that Yes, Okay, thank you? By 356 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: the way, It's important to note that she said she 357 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: was strict, So I think the combination of love and 358 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: strictness is really, really terrific. But we now have generations 359 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: of Americans raised with effusive love and minimal strictness, and 360 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: the results are quite awful. And if there's an imbalance 361 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: towards strictness over expressions of love, I think you will 362 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: still produce a better human being than if there is 363 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: an imbalance, And there is far more expressions of love 364 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: than strictness. But it is interesting that I don't know 365 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: any parent, even believers in unconditional love, who would say 366 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: to their child, I just want you to know it 367 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what you do to hurt any other person, 368 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: I will still love you. No parent would say that. 369 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: But why not? If in fact unconditional love is an ideal? 370 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: Why why wouldn't we say that That's what it means, right? 371 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: Unconditional means there is no condition under which I would 372 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: withdraw it. But you wouldn't say that to your child. 373 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: Why not? And I don't know if God has said 374 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: that to us. But anyway, this is not primarily about 375 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: unconditional love. It is about the imbalance that generations now 376 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: have had and the results can be seen at Harvard 377 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: Yard of Spoiled Brats. I'll bet vast numbers of them 378 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: were told by their parents how terrific they are and 379 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: how much they love them a lot. That's that's my suspicion. 380 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 381 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Brager's timeless wisdom. 382 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 2: All right, let's see here de Plaine, Illinois and Ross. Hello, Ross, Hello, Dennis. 383 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: Can you hear me? I hear you. It's a slight reverberation, 384 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: but I hear you. Fine. 385 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry here, I can just get off the 386 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: bluetooth thing. 387 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, yep, I agree with you a little bit. Yeah, 388 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: thank you. 389 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I think I said I can't talk now. 390 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: Wow, that's it. I hope it's not bad. Ed in Wheaton, Illinois, Hello, Dennis. 391 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 8: It's always a pleasure to talk to you. My ninety 392 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 8: plus year old mother had a what we could describe 393 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 8: as a near death experience, I guess, following a surgery. 394 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 8: She had this hours long conversation with God even though 395 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 8: she was only under fort about forty minutes and one 396 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 8: of the things. 397 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: By the way, just for the record, That's how many 398 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: of my classes felt. They felt hours long and they 399 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: were only forty minutes. So I totally get it. 400 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 8: Well, you know with God and ours Uh. 401 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's very different with God. Okay, go ahead. 402 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 8: There's a family member that had an abortion, and she 403 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 8: shared a conversation she had with who she believed to 404 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 8: be Jesus or God, and the love that he showed 405 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 8: and said that he had for all of his children 406 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 8: was something that I thought was pretty profound. I mean, 407 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 8: we talked about the love of God, but to think 408 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 8: that he can love somebody even though they've whatever, you know, 409 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 8: murder someone and with a gun or with their hands 410 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 8: or in this case, she decided to take this baby's life. 411 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 8: So the love that God has, while the Bible doesn't 412 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 8: talk about. 413 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 2: Right so here is here is one of my challenges. 414 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: And that is no one, not a parent, not a 415 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: pastor no religious figure would announce the following I just 416 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: want my congregation to know, or I just want you, 417 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 2: my child to know that no matter what you do, 418 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: how evil it is, I will still love you. No 419 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: one says that about themselves or about God, so we 420 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: know that the message would be counterproductive. Ex post facto. Well, 421 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: you committed this act and I still love you, or 422 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: you've committed this act of God. To love you is 423 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 2: not the same as announcing it doesn't matter what you do, 424 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: I will still love you. Pastors don't say that, and 425 00:35:50,719 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: parents don't say that. Hi, everybody, Dennis Praeger here. I 426 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: just shared some information with Sean about Tiglo Pilesser, and 427 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: I didn't want to hide that from you, my dear listeners. 428 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 2: I know somebody who appreciated that immensely. Ah, this is 429 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: this is such an important subject. You know. It evolved 430 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: not to evolved, but evolved into discussions on unconditional which 431 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: is the way it works. There's an organic evolution in 432 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 2: many hours of my program. But remember the the point 433 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: that I open with for this Ultimate Issues hour is 434 00:36:50,080 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: that effusive praise and love is dangerous if certainly if 435 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 2: not accompanied by equal amounts of discipline, I mean equal 436 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 2: Just for the record, we have really good ones here well, Orlando, Florida, mic. 437 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 9: Hey, Denni's always a pleasure sore. Okay, So my dad 438 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 9: told me that I had to give him back his 439 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 9: keys to the house. I wasn't welcome there anymore. I 440 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 9: didn't live there at the time, but it was because 441 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 9: I almost got why out. I was like why because 442 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 9: He's like, because you steal from most, we can't trust you. 443 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 9: You lie to us all the time. You know you're 444 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 9: not welcome here on supervised And so I went out 445 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 9: and I'm a low bottom drunk addict and I hit bottoms. 446 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 9: And today, man, they try to eliminate bottoms. Parents try 447 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 9: to eliminate bottoms. 448 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 2: That's a great line. That is a great line. Wow. 449 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 9: And also one other thing is the self esteem thing 450 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 9: is like people think they can give people self esteem, 451 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 9: you have to earn it. You have to earn it 452 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 9: over like thirty years now, in the last eleven twelve 453 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 9: years of my dad's life, we had the greatest. 454 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 2: Related I believe it. I believe it. That point on, 455 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: they don't want us to hit bottom. That's a big 456 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: reason for so many of those disgusting kids at Harvard Yard. 457 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: And also a big reason. It is the primary reason, 458 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: a primary, maybe not the for the neolistic leftism in 459 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 2: gratitude of a generation. They were raised by parents who 460 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 2: didn't want them to ever have any pain. 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