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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show. Hour
Speaker 3: two is under way. I'm here in DC ahead of
Speaker 3: the State of the Union Blake's holding it down at Phoenix, Arizona.
Speaker 3: So there was a powerful event that happened yesterday. And
Speaker 3: again President Trump I thought hit an amazing note when
Speaker 3: he said I will not forget and he was referring
Speaker 3: to angel families. And a lot of us know the
Speaker 3: story of Lake and Riley in Georgia who was killed
Speaker 3: at the hands of an illegal immigrant, but there's so
Speaker 3: many stories that we don't care as much about and
Speaker 3: we need to and here to help us is Joe Abraham.
Speaker 3: He's an angel, father to daughter Katie, who was killed
Speaker 3: by an illegal immigrant.
Speaker 4: He joins us now. He was at the event yesterday.
Speaker 3: Joe, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show and thanks so
Speaker 3: much for taking the time to be with us.
Speaker 4: Please tell us your story and your family story.
Speaker 5: Sure, thanks for having me and allowing me to talk
Speaker 5: about Katie and Katie's life. So Katie was twenty years old.
Speaker 5: She was a third year student at Ohio University in Athens, Ohio,
Speaker 5: and her and a friend, a friend in the in
Speaker 5: the glen View, Illinois area that's where we live, took
Speaker 5: the train down to Urbana, Illinois to visit some friends
Speaker 5: at the University of Illinois over the weekend of January,
Speaker 5: you know, eighteenth. They went down there. They were in
Speaker 5: an automobile on January nineteenth at a stoplight Idol and
Speaker 5: they were rear ended at almost eighty miles an hour,
Speaker 5: just decimated the Hota Civic they were in. The suv
Speaker 5: just plowed right into them, no breaking, no swerving. Katie
Speaker 5: unfortunately died on the scene. Another young woman died the
Speaker 5: next day. There were three injuries, and it turned out
Speaker 5: the person who struck the vehicle, you know, not only
Speaker 5: fled right away. I mean, can you imagine you decimate
Speaker 5: five lives and the first instinct you have is to flee.
Speaker 5: So it turns out he is an illegal alien, a
Speaker 5: Guatemalan national using a Mexican national alias.
Speaker 6: So sanctuary state.
Speaker 5: Illinois, when they nullified federal law, did not put any
Speaker 5: type of a real process in place on the front end.
Speaker 6: There were no guardrails.
Speaker 5: That's how negligent and how Illinois is so mismanaged by
Speaker 5: the governor pritsker on down General Assembly, every state legislature.
Speaker 6: So there are no guardrails.
Speaker 5: Now, on top of this, in the country, using an
Speaker 5: alias and false documentations, identity FAFT or whatever you want
Speaker 5: to call it.
Speaker 6: He flees.
Speaker 5: They finally apprehend him two days after Donald Trump is
Speaker 5: in office on the twentieth shuts down the border. I
Speaker 5: truly believe if New Yorkist and Biden were still running things,
Speaker 5: he would have never been apprehended. So thank goodness for
Speaker 5: Donald Trump coming in shutting the border down, allowing US
Speaker 5: marshals and border patrol to do their jobs, unlike the
Speaker 5: prior administration. They apprehended him. Now it turns out in
Speaker 5: federal court he is, now that he's been incarcerated, is
Speaker 5: being treated for HIV. So understand this as well. ELLINOI
Speaker 5: did not only have zero minimal vetting checks because the
Speaker 5: federal enforcement officers knew he was using an alias. They
Speaker 5: knew he was not who he says he was. ILLINOI
Speaker 5: didn't bother to check.
Speaker 6: Two. Did ILLINOI help this guy with any health screening? No?
Speaker 5: There was absolutely not. So ILLINOI allows folks to roam
Speaker 5: around the state unchecked, unvetted, unhealth screened. So this guy
Speaker 5: has HIV in our communities? Was let go to Rome free?
Speaker 5: Was he as reckless with his HIV as he was
Speaker 5: behind the wheel drunk drive.
Speaker 6: I suspect he was so.
Speaker 5: So Katie ends up paying a price, a predictable outcome
Speaker 5: of reckless, extreme radical policies out of Illinois, and she
Speaker 5: pays the price. She's on some alter we don't even understand.
Speaker 5: She dies on some alter of JB. Pritzker and his
Speaker 5: lapdogs in the General Assembly. So I sit here with
Speaker 5: a life sentence thanks to my Illinois government, and Katie received.
Speaker 6: The death penalty.
Speaker 2: She got death.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 5: And ILLINOI will is right now trying to erase us,
Speaker 5: silence us, make us disappear. We're so inconvenient to their
Speaker 5: nonsense stories about how there are no illegals in the country,
Speaker 5: that everyone is good, and it just goes against human
Speaker 5: nature how they approach things.
Speaker 6: It's really rather disgusting and insidious.
Speaker 3: Well, and Joe, you know CNN MS now refused to
Speaker 3: air that ceremony that was honoring your families, that was
Speaker 3: honoring Katie and Lake and Riley and so many others
Speaker 3: before And I was reading your op ed here and
Speaker 3: you sent a letter to JB. Pritzker with eleven questions
Speaker 3: and he's I believe, still not gotten back to you.
Speaker 4: It sounds like, but you write here.
Speaker 3: The pain our family has experienced in the last twelve
Speaker 3: plus months since Katie's death is beyond description. I wish
Speaker 3: I could explain it to people. The pain is so unbearable.
Speaker 3: At times it is me almost unable to function. I
Speaker 3: am haunted by the knowledge that I will never walk
Speaker 3: my daughter down the aisle, I'll never hold her children,
Speaker 3: I'll never see her again. I would give anything, anything,
Speaker 3: and the rest of my days for just one more
Speaker 3: hour with her. It's very emotional to read that. Compare
Speaker 3: what you've seen from the State of Illinois and President
Speaker 3: Trump and that ceremony yesterday.
Speaker 6: Oh you can't. You can't even believe the difference, you know.
Speaker 2: JB.
Speaker 5: Pritzker loves to talk about Donald Trump and authoritarian this,
Speaker 5: that and the other. If my first hand experiences, Donald
Speaker 5: Trump has welcomed us to the White House more than once,
Speaker 5: has looked me in the eye, father to father and
Speaker 5: said this has been a mess.
Speaker 6: We're gonna clean it up. And JB. Pritzker compare him
Speaker 6: ignored us.
Speaker 5: I was in the same committee room as he was,
Speaker 5: just ten feet away from him for eight hours. Didn't
Speaker 5: say one, didn't even look in my direction. He doesn't
Speaker 5: even probably know who I am, nor does he care.
Speaker 5: Jan Schakowski another woman who who now is picking her
Speaker 5: successor this Daniel Biskuy from Evanson, and you should see Evanston.
Speaker 5: It's like Chicago Junior, and apparently there's no kings, but
Speaker 5: in Illinois you can decide who you're going to appoint
Speaker 5: to take over your seat. So she's walking by me
Speaker 5: as if I wasn't there. So there was not one
Speaker 5: Democrat who would talk to me. And this state is
Speaker 5: all in Illinois, is all run by Democrats, so I
Speaker 5: need to talk to them. That's who's running this thing,
Speaker 5: and not one would talk to me. So look at
Speaker 5: the difference there. This guy is not COMPASSIONATEBI he's not
Speaker 5: a caring man. He is someone who's aloof He's arrogant somehow.
Speaker 5: I think he doesn't, you know, need the voters. He
Speaker 5: certainly doesn't. He's not accountable to the voters.
Speaker 6: He's to me.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, people are leaving Illinois and drovees
Speaker 5: and he's backfilling them with this free for all immigration
Speaker 5: policy because I think he needs warm bodies. Here's what
Speaker 5: I suspect, and I can tell you a story on
Speaker 5: that too, if you'd like, I wonder how many ballots
Speaker 5: are tied to these illegal alien bodies. That's that's why
Speaker 5: I think he's arrogant and doesn't really need to answer
Speaker 5: to the voters.
Speaker 4: No, I think I think that that's uh.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of us suspect the same, and
Speaker 3: we obviously see it because it ends up in the
Speaker 3: census data, it ends up in electoral college votes, it
Speaker 3: ends up in congressional apportionment. So whether or not there's
Speaker 3: ballot to ballot illegal voting, it's still it's still power
Speaker 3: that is being given to Democrats one way or the other. Joe,
Speaker 3: thank you so much for making the time. I know
Speaker 3: you've got travel and you wedge this dint. You wedged
Speaker 3: us in today. So I'm grateful to you. I'm grateful
Speaker 3: for you standing up for your daughter, for angel families
Speaker 3: all of the country, for being bold and courageous.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, and I'm so sorry for you. Oh.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys. Thank you keep up the hard work.
Speaker 5: Thanks so much.
Speaker 4: Thank you, God bless you.
Speaker 7: Joe.
Speaker 6: I'd bless.
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Speaker 3: It's been kind of a heavy show, Blake, and I
Speaker 3: think we need to we need to cleanse the palette
Speaker 3: here and talk about some good things, all right. So
Speaker 3: another judge ruling ruling came down emotion It basically sufficed
Speaker 3: to say that they denied the defense's motion and the
Speaker 3: death penalty is still very much in place and on
Speaker 3: track in this case.
Speaker 4: So that's one good news.
Speaker 3: Second good news, Erica kirk And has just been announced
Speaker 3: will be at the State of the Union tonight. It's
Speaker 3: public public information now. President Trump has invited her personally
Speaker 3: and she will be attending. So that's going all over
Speaker 3: the internet right now, which is great. And we have
Speaker 3: a hockey story that I'm gonna hit, but Blake, you have,
Speaker 3: you have a very very good one. You can hit.
Speaker 7: Your your your party boy thing. I want a white
Speaker 7: pillar for the whole for America in a big picture.
Speaker 7: I want to highlight flag this big article, well not
Speaker 7: a big article, they're all they're always short on Axios.
Speaker 7: Axios has an article this morning with a very sinister
Speaker 7: sounding title, inside Trump's purge of US immigration courts. You
Speaker 7: read it, Here's what the purge is. For literally decades,
Speaker 7: we've gradually built up this incredibly long backlog of cases
Speaker 7: in our immigration courts, which is obviously deliberate. While you're
Speaker 7: waiting for your day in court. You of course have
Speaker 7: the right to just live in America, do whatever you want,
Speaker 7: work in America. And the Biden administration sent that into overdrive.
Speaker 7: They were giving people court dates two years, three years,
Speaker 7: I believe in one case a court date ten years out,
Speaker 7: and then releasing people into the country. And I know
Speaker 7: people are sometimes frustrated that things feel like they're going
Speaker 7: slow in the Trump administration, or that things, you know,
Speaker 7: it'll be two steps forward, one step back. But this
Speaker 7: is a great example of how in the background they're
Speaker 7: getting the job done. Uh, they've hired, they're hiring dozens
Speaker 7: of new immigration judges and they've been training them up
Speaker 7: and apparently this month is when they're finally getting into action.
Speaker 7: And that's important because as is already in the past year,
Speaker 7: the backlog of cases, the total number of cases they
Speaker 7: have to process, has fallen by three hundred and forty
Speaker 7: one thousand, and this next year maybe that'll be half
Speaker 7: a million, six hundred a million. And that's really important
Speaker 7: because when you adjudicate those cases, it goes really fast.
Speaker 7: Almost all of these you can handle in a matter
Speaker 7: of hours if not if not less.
Speaker 4: And once you're doing that, that is what allows ICE.
Speaker 7: To just go and say, oh, you have an order
Speaker 7: of removal, we're taking you, getting you out of the country.
Speaker 4: Bam bam, bam, bam bam.
Speaker 7: You make it so much easier for ICE to just
Speaker 7: grab people, get him out. And it's so great here
Speaker 7: they just have these quotes where like, you know, they
Speaker 7: put this guy, Darren Margalin in charge of training up
Speaker 7: the new hires. He was an immigration judge and he
Speaker 7: quit in twenty twenty four because he said, quote, I
Speaker 7: felt like a co conspirator in treason regarding the Biden
Speaker 7: administration's policies. Now he is taking leadership of the Executive
Speaker 7: Office of Immigration Review, and he is ramming this through.
Speaker 7: So I wanted to flag that for people to show
Speaker 7: there are stories that are not getting front page headlines,
Speaker 7: they're not getting covered on CNN, that we are getting
Speaker 7: the work done for mass deportations in the years to come.
Speaker 7: You just purge those cases, get it done, big white
Speaker 7: pill for today.
Speaker 3: That's a white pill. I love the white I love
Speaker 3: white Pill Blake. It's my favorite Blake. And so when
Speaker 3: he comes up with these ideas, I'm like, we're gonna
Speaker 3: find time in the show, Blake.
Speaker 4: You know, it's perfect. So I love that.
Speaker 3: And I'm a big immigration hawk, so God bless that.
Speaker 3: I love how the Axios calls it purge.
Speaker 4: What a joke.
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, all right, So here's my white pill of
Speaker 3: the day. The US men's hockey team is back on
Speaker 3: US soil. They are still Patriots, they're still sounding like.
Speaker 4: The perfect note.
Speaker 3: And they had to get rerouted to Miami because of
Speaker 3: the weather in the northern part of the country. Well,
Speaker 3: and so what do you do when you're Miami. Now
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people you shouldn't be partying. It's like, okay,
Speaker 3: loosen up. They just won the gold medal. They're they're
Speaker 3: out in uh, you know, a town known for having
Speaker 3: a night life. Okay, and everybody's filming them and guess what,
Speaker 3: they're still singing God Bless the USA. So here's three
Speaker 3: seventy eight of the US men's hockey team in Miami
Speaker 3: last night singing God Bless USA. Three seventy eight.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: What do you guys think in the chats? Send us
Speaker 3: an email Freedom at Charliekirk dot com.
Speaker 4: Do you love this?
Speaker 3: Do you love this proud, exuberant patriotism from Team USA
Speaker 3: after they won the gold? I personally love it. I
Speaker 3: don't have a problem with Cash Battel enjoying the moment
Speaker 3: with them either. They invited him in. I think everybody
Speaker 3: needs to loosen up, have a moment of just pure,
Speaker 3: unadulterated national pride and relax, Like, stop being a hater.
Speaker 4: This is great. You may not like that. Take I
Speaker 4: like it. I think it's great.
Speaker 3: And by the way, the other thing I'd say, Blake,
Speaker 3: here's the thing I would say, you know what they
Speaker 3: don't love.
Speaker 4: They don't love masculinity. They don't like an FBI.
Speaker 3: Director like pound in his chest, pound on the table,
Speaker 3: throw him back a beer.
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe you don't drink. That's fine, Charlie didn't drink.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 3: But listen, adults sometimes have a beer, especially after a
Speaker 3: huge win. They don't like the men's hockey team losing
Speaker 3: teeth and then draping themselves in the American flag and
Speaker 3: then go into a club in Miami because they get
Speaker 3: rerouted to a warmer climate with the Northwestern coming in.
Speaker 3: Telling you what they really have a problem with is
Speaker 3: unabashed masculine energy.
Speaker 4: Victory.
Speaker 3: We're not apologizing for it. And here's what else is great.
Speaker 3: President Trump promised and he delivered. Four h five. This
Speaker 3: is the men's hockey team getting picked up by the
Speaker 3: President for the State of the Union tonight, four h five.
Speaker 8: Look at Miami International Airport. This is where Team USA
Speaker 8: men's hockey team is on US air Force seven fifty
Speaker 8: seven plane. This after landing here in South Florida. This
Speaker 8: is where they, of course celebrated their Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 3: A plane headed to Washington, DC. We know the team
Speaker 3: potentially could make an appearance tonight at the State of
Speaker 3: the Union address.
Speaker 7: All right, but Andrew, that's great. But Andrew, I've got
Speaker 7: something great for you. The real reason this is amazing
Speaker 7: is because hockey liberals are a real thing. Apparently there's
Speaker 7: thousands of them, and they're absolutely flipping out. I wanted
Speaker 7: to flag this some guy with the trans flag on
Speaker 7: x he posted this one is personal. It's a scary
Speaker 7: time on hockey Twitter right now. We can't become hope.
Speaker 7: And the article is titled don't let them effing take
Speaker 7: it from you, and they are in full meltdown.
Speaker 4: So I can agree with you.
Speaker 7: This is a great celebration.
Speaker 4: You just had to bring us down with that. I
Speaker 4: love it.
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Speaker 3: Kane from Citizen Free Press. I've been checking out your
Speaker 3: stack all morning, my friend. Thank you for covering the
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk trial right now with Tyler Robinson. It means
Speaker 3: a lot, and there's some great We've had some great
Speaker 3: developments there, so thank you for that. But there's so
Speaker 3: much going on, Kane. We had kind of a heavy show.
Speaker 3: Blake will attest in the first I say hour and
Speaker 3: a half, and we're we're we're doing white pill moments.
Speaker 3: We're no doomerism on this show right now. So we've
Speaker 3: got the State of the Union tonight, Kane, what are
Speaker 3: you looking for? What notes do you want the president
Speaker 3: to hit? What do you think your readers at Citizen
Speaker 3: Free Press want to hear?
Speaker 9: Yeah, those are good questions, you know me, dude, I
Speaker 9: want to hear about the national day. I'd love to
Speaker 9: hear Trump talk about a spending freeze. When you watch
Speaker 9: Trump every day and have to, sort of because of
Speaker 9: your job, watch all the press conferences like you guys do,
Speaker 9: like I do, you know, you hear a lot of
Speaker 9: the same themes repeated. And so I'm a little bit
Speaker 9: fearful that, you know, as a junkie, that I that
Speaker 9: I will have heard everything that I that Trump's gonna
Speaker 9: talk about tonight in terms of emphasizing how the economy
Speaker 9: is better than people say, et cetera, et cetera. But
Speaker 9: you know me, you know the stack. You saw it yesterday,
Speaker 9: two headlines in green italics that where I linked to
Speaker 9: Scott Bessett when he was on Maria Barbaroma's show on
Speaker 9: Sunday morning talking about the national debt.
Speaker 2: So I would love.
Speaker 9: You know, that is the part of what I hope
Speaker 9: for in in you know, in Trump two point zero
Speaker 9: is having both you know, control of both Congresses, that
Speaker 9: maybe we could finally realistically take a look at the
Speaker 9: big three programs of Medicaid, Medicare, social Security, get those
Speaker 9: start getting the conversations going about how to fix those programs.
Speaker 9: And also, well and I threw it in as my
Speaker 9: second headline as a message to Trump yesterday, specifically to
Speaker 9: him because I know he reads the site that you know,
Speaker 9: they make that make this his legacy, make you know,
Speaker 9: fixing the national debt his legacy.
Speaker 2: And uh and so that's what I'd like to hear.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Charlie, the first clips that you'll see
Speaker 3: of Charlie on TV, it was all about the national debt.
Speaker 3: He was obsessed with it and remained obsessed with it.
Speaker 3: He was a fiscal his whole life. And uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I would say, I would say that a balanced budget.
Speaker 4: Blake is skeptical.
Speaker 3: I know, I know Blake's skeptical, but a balanced budget
Speaker 3: would be a massive, massive accomplishment.
Speaker 4: I I totally agree. Would you have to go ahead?
Speaker 7: I just I think a way that he could maybe
Speaker 7: at least gesture towards that. The past six months, we've
Speaker 7: had story after story of massive fraud in government, a
Speaker 7: massive fraud of federal programs, Medicaid, every federal program getting
Speaker 7: looted in Minnesota, in Maine, in Washington, in California. I
Speaker 7: think if you made that a big theme of his address,
Speaker 7: about oh, we're going to have a detailed auditing task
Speaker 7: force that will identify, I would arrest, stop the fraud,
Speaker 7: deport the people committing it. I think that would be
Speaker 7: a good way to at least make gestures towards the debt.
Speaker 7: Even if I'm skeptical this administration is ready to they're
Speaker 7: not gonna. I don't think they're going to take big
Speaker 7: steps on Social Security or any of those big items.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I go back to Cain and you're
Speaker 3: you're you're a financial guy. People don't know that your
Speaker 3: background is in finance. But the tweet from Mark Halprin
Speaker 3: that we actually made a lot of We actually had
Speaker 3: Mark Calpern on the show.
Speaker 4: To talk about it.
Speaker 3: Apparently for Breezio, one of the main polsters for President Trump,
Speaker 3: did a whole presentation and he outlined the sort of
Speaker 3: I would call them populist economic wins and how to message,
Speaker 3: how to get through because this sticky issue of the economy.
Speaker 3: People still don't feel the momentum. I mean, they come out,
Speaker 3: We're coming out of four years of Biden inflation, and
Speaker 3: they're still not feeling that relief. So Fabrizio's got these
Speaker 3: ideas of like you know, band stock trading for Congress, right,
Speaker 3: you get these these scalps at these these actionable wins
Speaker 3: that would start kind of piercing the noise and getting
Speaker 3: into the population of the voting population. What do you
Speaker 3: think about the economic messaging Kane specifically tonight.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well I read that Fabrizio stuff last week and
Speaker 9: it was it was good, and he makes a good
Speaker 9: point about getting some wins getting to.
Speaker 2: What Blake said.
Speaker 9: He Blake is right fraud beating fraud polls really really well.
Speaker 9: Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen has sort of talked about it.
Speaker 9: He had a piece up talking about how Trump was
Speaker 9: doing the best, actually doing the best poll wise when
Speaker 9: Doge was in the was Doge was in the news,
Speaker 9: and and then you know that maybe the missed opportunity
Speaker 9: in Minnesota was instead of concentrating on the on the
Speaker 9: deportation and the ice part. Maybe concentrating more on the
Speaker 9: fraud part, because all, you know, a lot more of
Speaker 9: America can get behind the fraud stuff. In terms of,
Speaker 9: you know, a bold move towards Social Security, which Blake
Speaker 9: also mentioned, Yeah, I don't expect that. I just want
Speaker 9: the conversations to start. You know, let's start talking about
Speaker 9: how we slowly raise the retirement age from sixty seven
Speaker 9: to seventy over thirty years, you know, nothing quick, you know,
Speaker 9: so the people don't freak out another you know, I
Speaker 9: thought I have about why people don't really feel the
Speaker 9: economy getting better is, to be honest, it's it's interest rates.
Speaker 9: I've got my neighbors across the street who are stuck
Speaker 9: in their house. They they're the greatest people. They've got
Speaker 9: four amazing young athletes under ten. They homeschool these kids,
Speaker 9: and they're stuck in this tiny lot. Why because of
Speaker 9: interest rates. They're homes at three percent loan and so anyway,
Speaker 9: I think that'll be huge. I put a headline in
Speaker 9: today about Austin Goldsby, who used to be Obama's you know,
Speaker 9: economic guru, about how he's you know, still saying he
Speaker 9: won't lower rates, Thank goodness, Kevin Warrish will.
Speaker 2: Be able to so.
Speaker 9: And by the way, you know, I watched CNBC on
Speaker 9: mute most of the day, and you know, the third
Speaker 9: your mortgage has finally dipped under six percent. It's five
Speaker 9: point ninety nine. Now, granted, that's that's still big. You know,
Speaker 9: those are still a big number compared to three and
Speaker 9: the three and a half percent. But it's gonna get better,
Speaker 9: and I think that'll help well.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, no, there was a there was a
Speaker 3: story out of Fox Business this morning that the purchasing
Speaker 3: power of home buyers is up over thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: under Trump, partly because of interest rates, but also partly
Speaker 3: because of rising incomes, and so as those interest rates
Speaker 3: continue to tick down, people are going to experience a
Speaker 3: little bit more flexibility. It's you know, I think the
Speaker 3: Zillow quote in there was it's the difference between having
Speaker 3: to settle and being able to actually choose a home
Speaker 3: you want to live in. So it makes a huge,
Speaker 3: huge difference for home buyers just to have even thirty
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars more money on the table to be
Speaker 3: able to buy a home. So but continue, you were
Speaker 3: you were going, well.
Speaker 2: Whatever, I think that's gonna help.
Speaker 9: I really think that'll help people's you know, sentiment towards
Speaker 9: the economy. And U look, I think that you know,
Speaker 9: I think Trump is doing okay. I pay attention to
Speaker 9: Rasmussen approval.
Speaker 2: I don't really really.
Speaker 9: I mean, I look at all the other approval numbers
Speaker 9: that come out, but I really pay attention to Rasmussen's
Speaker 9: daily tracker. And you know, Trump slash Republican. Let's say
Speaker 9: it's JD vance in three years or in two years.
Speaker 9: You know, he can win, we can we can pull
Speaker 9: it off in these numbers. You guys know that I'm
Speaker 9: not super optimistic about the midterms, right because what did
Speaker 9: how many did Trump lose in twenty eighteen? He lost
Speaker 9: almost forty seats or he did lose forty seats in
Speaker 9: the House, So the House is going to be very tough.
Speaker 9: I think we hold the Senate just because of the numbers.
Speaker 9: And and you know, it's so vital for our movement,
Speaker 9: so vital that we that you know, that we win
Speaker 9: in twenty twenty eight that JD wins. And last thing
Speaker 9: I'll say before I throw it back, I thought it
Speaker 9: was a great discussion on that Atlantic article that you
Speaker 9: guys had that you know that I have got in
Speaker 9: the stack from yesterday. If you care about America, you're
Speaker 9: obviously a Nazi. Like that's how far you know? That's
Speaker 9: just it's just such ridiculous tribe from the Democrats.
Speaker 2: I hate these people anyway.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, since you kind of brought it up. And then,
Speaker 3: by the way, Huffington Post said, if you're feeling uncomfortable
Speaker 3: being patriotic.
Speaker 4: You're not alone.
Speaker 3: But we got to hit Don Lemon. It's one of
Speaker 3: our favorite things to do on this show. He's going
Speaker 3: after the hockey teams here three sixty nine.
Speaker 10: Look, I don't understand why anyone would be want to
Speaker 10: be in the vicinity of this president at all, just
Speaker 10: being honest. If they called him the phone call, I'd say, no, thank, no, thanks,
Speaker 10: don't do you want to take the call? No, tell
Speaker 10: him to call someone else. I'm not interested in being
Speaker 10: part of this. I'm not interested in being part of
Speaker 10: this when he doesn't he is not a patriot and
Speaker 10: he doesn't care about this country. He doesn't care about
Speaker 10: the people of this country. He certainly doesn't if you
Speaker 10: look at the citizens who are being rounded up if
Speaker 10: you look at what he's doing to the economy, what
Speaker 10: he's done to healthcare. He doesn't care about this country,
Speaker 10: So why should I be smiling and kicking?
Speaker 4: No, not interested.
Speaker 10: I'll go party and celebrate somewhere else. I'll wait till
Speaker 10: I get home to go and party and celebrate with
Speaker 10: my family, and maybe, like a real president, maybe we'll
Speaker 10: maybe one day Barack Obama will come to our game.
Speaker 3: Oh, of course, of course, Barack Obama. By the way,
Speaker 3: that's a sixty year old man talking like a little
Speaker 3: petulant child.
Speaker 4: Caine, your reaction to Don Lemon.
Speaker 9: He's about as popular as month old convenience store sushi.
Speaker 9: I don't know, dude, Iam Don Lemon. I mean I it.
Speaker 9: By the way, there's some awesome view there's some awesome,
Speaker 9: hilarious videos about about Don Lemon on Twitter, gone back
Speaker 9: about ten years.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, on YouTube. Whatever.
Speaker 9: The guy's irrelevant. He speaks to his audience. You know,
Speaker 9: he's he's there for our outrage. Just whatever.
Speaker 2: He you know, you got fired from CNN. Sorry, dude,
Speaker 2: like not a fan.
Speaker 3: It's just it's a really it's it's really a shame
Speaker 3: that we can't have bipartisan patriotism anymore.
Speaker 4: It's just a shame. It's a shame what they've done
Speaker 4: to the country.
Speaker 2: It's the disease, right, it's the Trump brainworm.
Speaker 4: So whatever, Cain, I have to spill the beans. Here
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 3: That picture that you see on your screen if you're
Speaker 3: watching right now, is inaccurate.
Speaker 4: I have seen.
Speaker 3: There's facial hair, there's you have a whole new look
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 4: Cane, show it. I don't want to. I don't want
Speaker 4: to divulge too much.
Speaker 2: Here, show it, show it.
Speaker 4: Pull the well.
Speaker 3: I want to pull it up now I listen, I'll
Speaker 3: pull it up right out. But here, here's why we
Speaker 3: while we're doing this. Okay, hold on.
Speaker 4: I got it. I got it. We'll get it up
Speaker 4: just for you.
Speaker 8: What it is.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be nine years on May first, for this
Speaker 9: website and running this website.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it.
Speaker 9: When I showed up in Detroit last summer, I lost
Speaker 9: like twenty pounds slowly by just basic attrition, because you
Speaker 9: know you, Let's say you wake up in the morning
Speaker 9: and you think do I need food or do I
Speaker 9: need to check the headlines, and and when your office
Speaker 9: is like fourteen feet away from your bed, like you
Speaker 9: end up in that in the office and then and
Speaker 9: then right you work until there you go there's the
Speaker 9: front yard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, after a what is it?
Speaker 4: So that's that's a beard. That's a beard.
Speaker 3: Can I think you you have a you have an
Speaker 3: oddly shaped beard. I I appreciate it. It's it's it's powerful.
Speaker 3: You're a man possessed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Yes, So that's my weight is back up.
Speaker 9: People will be happy to know that the last year
Speaker 9: and a half, I've been getting back in the gym
Speaker 9: three four days a week. I sneak out of the
Speaker 9: h of CFP headquarters get in the gym.
Speaker 2: You know, that beard is why I never appear on
Speaker 2: camera for the I don't you know.
Speaker 9: I don't even get showers until like five or six
Speaker 9: o'clock at night because listen, you wake up. I don't
Speaker 9: want to say I wake up in a panic every morning,
Speaker 9: but you sort of wake up and and you know that,
Speaker 9: like you missed headlines.
Speaker 2: During the six hours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get listen, Ken, you got to take care of
Speaker 3: your health, and you got it that. Charlie was always
Speaker 3: big on the health and your personal hygiene is also
Speaker 3: very important.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: Two elephants in the room at the State of the Union.
Speaker 3: Kne that's Iran in the Epstein files. What do you
Speaker 3: make of both, especially Iran? What are you seeing from
Speaker 3: CFP nation, especially on Iran.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's a good question about what the people think.
Speaker 9: Obviously, a huge part of the America first thing is
Speaker 9: not to want to get involved in foreign wars. So
Speaker 9: there's a natural trepidation that exists, and that's there. But
Speaker 9: at the same time, it's a trust you know, there's
Speaker 9: a trust Trump vibe.
Speaker 2: People really do trust them.
Speaker 9: Look remember when in Trump one point zero when he
Speaker 9: sent cruise missiles into Syria and people freaked out for
Speaker 9: twenty four hours, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And that's all it was.
Speaker 9: Was was a short little Reagan burst if people, you
Speaker 9: guys aren't old enough. But Reagan took care of Kadafi
Speaker 9: with some cruise missiles in the eighties. I remember it,
Speaker 9: and and it was just it was just, you know,
Speaker 9: twelve hours of bombing and we got our point across.
Speaker 9: So anyway, people trust Trump. So I don't think that
Speaker 9: people are radically freaked out. If you're asking, you know,
Speaker 9: I've had a lot of people sort of asked me
Speaker 9: what are the odds. What do I see happening there? Look,
Speaker 9: I would say that that Iran has been given fair warning.
Speaker 9: You know, Trump doesn't. Trump is well aware of that.
Speaker 9: Of that, what they say about him on Wall Street,
Speaker 9: the the taco trade, and and when it comes to
Speaker 9: these foreign policy thinks, Trump doesn't fool around. So I
Speaker 9: think Iran, bet you know, I put it in the
Speaker 9: stack yesterday. There's gonna be meetings in Geneva, I think
Speaker 9: on Thursday. Iron supposedly has a new proposal on getting
Speaker 9: rid of nukes. But if they don't do it, you
Speaker 9: know Trump, this will be the last thing I'll say.
Speaker 9: You know, there was that Axio story yesterday that said
Speaker 9: that Trump's biggot, you know, his top general Raisin Kane,
Speaker 9: maybe was showing a little bit of of caution about
Speaker 9: bombing in Iran. And then Trump himself almost immediately put
Speaker 9: out a long message on true Social that you alerted
Speaker 9: me to. By the way, Andrew, and I hadn't seen
Speaker 9: Trump's response to that, and that was important.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 9: You know, you can you can figure out a lot
Speaker 9: by seeing how Trump is reacting to certain stories. So
Speaker 9: the fact that he said that, no, that there you know,
Speaker 9: that raising Kane really wasn't worried, and and and that
Speaker 9: Acxios got the story wrong. I think it tells you
Speaker 9: that Iran should be worried, that the Mulas should be worried.
Speaker 9: And then I'll quickly say on Epstein, well go ahead,
Speaker 9: if you want to respond on that, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'm going to respond on that just quickly.
Speaker 3: I got asked by Politico about people invoking Charlie's name
Speaker 3: with this Iran strike and I and I was very
Speaker 3: clear with him. I said, yeah, Charlie was America first.
Speaker 3: To his cores, he wanted a nation build in America.
Speaker 3: He didn't want foreign adventurism, none of it. But when
Speaker 3: it came to the first Iran strike, you heard a
Speaker 3: lot more chatter. There was a lot more people getting
Speaker 3: up in arms about it. And Charlie stood the course.
Speaker 3: He was adamant, Hey, we do not want foreign adventurism,
Speaker 3: we do not want nation building abroad.
Speaker 4: We want nation building here at home.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, this is why
Speaker 3: we elected President Trump to lead the military, to lead
Speaker 3: this nation. At some point you have to say, this
Speaker 3: is their job. They need to do the best they can.
Speaker 3: They need to make the best decisions they can. And
Speaker 3: I think you're seeing that after Venezuela, which was incredible
Speaker 3: by any metric, what they did in Iran the first time,
Speaker 3: I think people understand Trump is a is a high violence,
Speaker 3: precision attack kind of guy when it when it comes
Speaker 3: to kinetic warfare. Now do what do we want to avoid?
Speaker 3: You know, a regime change, drawn out conflict? Absolutely?
Speaker 4: Can they do that?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 3: Question remains, we don't know, We don't know what's going
Speaker 3: to happen. And I think Blake made a good point
Speaker 3: yesterday when he said that, you know, we we haven't
Speaker 3: really been sold on the case for this conflict yet either. Blake,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have any thoughts there, because
Speaker 3: you're you're you're great on this.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think honestly, if they need to make a case,
Speaker 7: state of the Union is as good a time as any.
Speaker 7: But I think, uh, as things stand out, I think
Speaker 7: this is what what Charlie would be most frustrated about
Speaker 7: is if you are going to launch a regime change war,
Speaker 7: which I think at this point strikes of the magnitude
Speaker 7: they seem to be planning.
Speaker 4: Would have to be.
Speaker 7: You need to be able to in a handful of
Speaker 7: sentences say why this is invaluable for America's national interests
Speaker 7: and national security? And right now, I think if it
Speaker 7: were to happen, I think people would just be confused,
Speaker 7: and they would say, why now, why not a month ago,
Speaker 7: why not last summer? Why not ten years ago? What
Speaker 7: is special about this moment? And at that point you're
Speaker 7: just banking on if it's super successful, that justifies itself.
Speaker 7: If it's super successful and there are no American deaths,
Speaker 7: then that's great. But if there's any casualties at all,
Speaker 7: that's where the lack of a clear explanation becomes a
Speaker 7: big albatross.
Speaker 9: These are difficult decisions, right I don't none of us
Speaker 9: envy the president having to make these very difficult decisions.
Speaker 9: But regime change through airstrikes is not easy. You have
Speaker 9: the aatola hiding three hundred feet undergrounded bunkers, so you
Speaker 9: don't even know that a certain amount of bombing is
Speaker 9: going to get rid of them, and then you have
Speaker 9: to deal with the fact that there are hundreds of
Speaker 9: other molas to replace them. I mean, Iran is a
Speaker 9: fully fully structure theocracy now after forty years, and it's
Speaker 9: not you know, just getting rid of the Ayatola or
Speaker 9: a few others won't necessarily need So these are all
Speaker 9: difficult decisions. But we trust in President Trump. We trust
Speaker 9: and I think the base completely trusts him. As you
Speaker 9: said eloquently, he's earned this trust.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well said.
Speaker 3: And by the way, today at three pm, CIA Director
Speaker 3: John Ratcliffe is set to join Secretary of State Marco
Speaker 3: Rubio for a classified.
Speaker 4: Briefing on Iran.
Speaker 3: All right, there you go, Caine, well done, My friend Blake,
Speaker 3: well done in Phoenix.
Speaker 4: We'll see you guys tomorrow.
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