1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Love Offering Podcast. I'm your host, Rachel Adam's, 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: author of everyday Prayers for love, Learning to Love God, others, 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: and even yourself. Each week, we dive into meaningful conversations 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: about how to live out the greatest commandment, loving God 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: with all of our heart's soul, mind and strength, and 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: loving our neighbors as ourselves. Through inspiring stories, practical wisdom, 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: and biblical truth. My hope is to encourage you to 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: love boldly, live faithfully, and reflect God's love in your 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: everyday life. Today, I'm honored to welcome Kara Shine to 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: the show. Is an author, former elementary school teacher, wife 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: and mother whose powerful testimony unfolds in her book The 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: Hallway Miracle. In this deeply moving story, Kara shares how 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: God met her in the middle of fear, trauma, and uncertainty, 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: and how a simple hallway prayer became the turning point 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: of her life and faith. 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: Well. 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: Hello, Kia, and welcome to the Love Offering Podcast. I'm 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: so happy to have you. 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: Hi, Rachel. I am just apps honored to be here, 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: so excited to see what God will do during our conversation. 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: So you and I met two years ago. Yes we did, Yes, 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: we did at a conference and we met in a hallway. 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I know this is not lost on me, right, this 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: is crazy. I was thinking about this earlier, that you 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: and I did have our first conversation in a hallway 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: where I just felt so compelled to come and talk 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: to you. And it's those small moments of connections that 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of times we don't even think about how 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: the power of God in small, ordinary things. All of 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, God can step into a moment and give 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: you a new friend and providence, which is what happened. 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: It's exactly what happened, and you it was that it 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: was just a chance encounter, and then we ended up 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: praying together, and then we got to see each other 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: again last year, and then now we get to talk 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: this year. So so it excited to introduce you and 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: your story. It's such a powerful story to our listeners today, 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: and so as as we begin, I want to talk 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: about this whole hallway mirror and that whole story, but. 41 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Give us the backstory. 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: Tell us more about who you are, your background, and 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: a little bit about just your family and your ordinary life. 44 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I want to start by saying I should 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: not be here, right, I should not be on this 46 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: screen because I was born and raised Jewish and the 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: odds of me being here with you on a Christian 48 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: podcast are infinitesimal. Only at the hand of God and 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: through the power of invitation did some kind Christians introduce 50 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: me to Jesus, Because as I was growing up, unfortunately 51 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: I was by Christians who spoke about Jesus in a 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: way that was not who Jesus was. So I spent 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: thirty years really feeling outside of Jesus's love and thinking 54 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: he wanted nothing to do with me. And it wasn't 55 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: until two thousand and two, during the Beltway sniper attacks 56 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Which is where my husband and 57 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: I live, where these Christians spoke into my life in 58 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: a time of anxiety and shared with me the Jesus 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: who washes feet, who I had not met. I had 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: not met. In the middle of a hallway, I met 61 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: Jesus and it changed everything. It changed everything. So now 62 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: here I am outside of Washington, d C. About thirty 63 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: years later, I gave my life to Jesus. I'm a 64 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: lay pastor, a Bible study teacher, a speaker, and an author. 65 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: What all at the hands of what God would have 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: happened because of this Hallway Miracle prayer. That's some bold 67 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: Christians spoken to my life and the time of anxiety 68 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: when the Washington DC area was just in chaos. 69 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait to continue this conversation, but we 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: are going to take a brief break to hear a 71 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: word from today's sponsor, and when we come back, Kia's 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: going to share more about how fear and uncertainty shaped 73 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: her inner world and how God was already at work 74 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: even before she realized it. Welcome back to the Love 75 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Offering podcast. I'm talking with Kiara Shand about her powerful 76 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: story in the Hallway Miracle. Where does the story begin 77 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: for you? I? 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: I grew up in a small town in Ohio, and 79 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: my parents picked a community close to where my dad 80 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: was working on the Air Force base, but forty five 81 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: minutes away from the nearest synagogue, and we were really 82 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: the only Jews in an otherwise very Christian community. Although 83 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: I know that there were other wonderful Christians in that community, 84 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: the ones that we heard from the most, the loudest Christians, 85 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: were also the cruelest. So on the bus, especially on 86 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: the bus, my brother and I were subjected to a 87 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: lot of anti Semitism, and these kids would speak and 88 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: say just things like, you know, checkter for horns, all clear. 89 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I hope you've got warm clothes because where you're going 90 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: you're going to be real hot, horrible, hateful things. And 91 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: I couldn't reconcile that Jesus with what I had heard 92 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: about in synagogue, because when I had learned about Jesus 93 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: in synagogue, what the teachers would say is, oh, he 94 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: was a rabbi and he taught the Golden rule, do 95 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: unto others as you would have him do unto you. 96 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: And I couldn't reconcile what these kids were saying about 97 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: Jesus to me and my brother on the bus with 98 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: what I was learning. So, for like I said, thirty years, 99 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: I thought Jesus wanted nothing to do with me, and 100 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was at all. Fast forward 101 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: thirty years. My husband and I got married and he 102 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: was actually a Presbyterian at the time, and that was okay. 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: We decided we were going to figure things out as 104 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: we went. But after we had our daughter, Emma, I 105 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: started feeling uneasy about the things that were happening in life. 106 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: It was right after nine to eleven, and I was 107 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: an elementary school teacher at this school nearby, and I 108 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: just could not find any kind of peace and I 109 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: started suffering from anxiety attacks. As God would have it, 110 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: there were in this elementary school good Christians. And I 111 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: want to use that term carefully here, but when I 112 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: say good Christians, I mean Christians who walked in a 113 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: faith that was welcoming and kind and loving, and they 114 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: treated me and my different religion with respect and kindness. 115 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: And as a result, there was a relational transformation that 116 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: happened with how I thought of them. And so in 117 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 1: two thousand and two, in October, starting October second, there 118 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: was a sniper attack all throughout the DC area and 119 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: for three weeks, we couldn't go outside. There was recess canceled, 120 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: and we couldn't go to football games. Everything about our 121 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 1: life changed while these snipers just kind of indiscriminately shot 122 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: at men, women, children, and nothing felt safe. And in 123 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: the middle of those three weeks, our two year old 124 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: daughter suffered from her first peanut allergic reaction. We didn't 125 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: know that she had this allergy, and I came face 126 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: to face with panic attacks and It wasn't until I 127 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: I met these Christians who were able to say we 128 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: see your need and we're going to pray with you 129 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: and your family that I came face to face with 130 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: what does real grace look like? And one morning after 131 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: there had been an attack by one of the snipers 132 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: on a middle school student at a nearby school. I 133 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: remember I pulled up to the elementary school was empty 134 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: this morning, and my friend Sharon, who was one of 135 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: these good Christians who had been just kind and praying 136 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: for my family. She and I arrived at the same time, 137 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: and she got out of her car and just walked 138 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: into the elementary school without a care in the world. Now, 139 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: we had been told that we were supposed to zigzag 140 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: and stay low to avoid getting shot during these three weeks, 141 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: and she just kind of got out of her car 142 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: walked into the elementary school without a care. I sat 143 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: in my car frozen, I couldn't even move, and she 144 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: waited for me at the door and kind of beckoned 145 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: for me to come. And in that moment, I had 146 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: to make a decision. Had to get into school somehow. 147 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: So I took a deep breath and I ran into 148 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: the elementary school and she just stood there looking so calm, 149 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: and I asked her, I said, how are you not scared? 150 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: And she said, Kara, I am scared, but I know 151 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: that God is in control, and I know that Jesus 152 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: loves me, and it's going to be okay. And then 153 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: she did think that the one thing that changed my life, 154 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: and she just said, would you like to pray with me? 155 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: And in that moment, because she had been so relational 156 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: and so kind, I took that chance. And in that 157 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: empty hallway, we bowed our heads and closed our eyes, 158 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: and she spoke to Jesus like he was her best friend. 159 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I felt it from the top 160 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: of my head to the bottom of my toes. I 161 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: can feel it now as I'm retelling the story. Every 162 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: time I retell it, it's the same thing. And we 163 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: stood in that hallway and everything disappeared from around me. 164 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: And when we opened our eyes, I remember I was 165 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: crying and she was crying, and I just looked at 166 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: her and I said, what was that? And she said, oh, honey, 167 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: that was Jesus. And what happened after afterwards, that's a 168 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: whole nother story, because there was this holy ripple effect 169 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: of what happened as a result of that Hallway prayer, 170 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: and because of it, I'm sitting here in front of 171 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: you now. 172 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear the ripple effects of that conversation. 173 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: That We're going to take another brief break to hear 174 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: a word from today's sponsor, and when we come back, 175 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: we'll talk about how the Hallway moment reshaped Kiara's understanding 176 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: of God's love and what it means for those of 177 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: us who feel hesitant, wounded, or unsure of our faith. 178 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Love Offering podcast. I'm talking with 179 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: Kia Shout about how God meets us, interfere and gently 180 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: leads us towards peace. So before the break, you talked 181 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: about this ripple effect, So tell us more about after 182 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: that prayer what changed. And I remember I want to 183 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: tell everybody I've read the book start to finish and 184 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 2: endorsed it had the honor to do that. 185 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Rachel. 186 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: Well, it's a rivening story, but it's such a faith 187 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: building story too. And one of the things I remember, 188 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: for whatever reason, is that there was a Bible verse 189 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: on that friend's desk, and you saw it, and it 190 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: was something she just was doing on her own that 191 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: she probably didn't realize anybody else was paying attention to, 192 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: but you did, and it made a difference. So I 193 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 2: don't know if you want to start there or include 194 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: that somewhere in the Rippulfeck story, but that was an impactful, 195 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 2: like little moment for me as I was reading. 196 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: It, as if I could encourage your listeners to think 197 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: about the way that they live and walk in the 198 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: world because the impact that it has on people like 199 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: me who don't know Jesus. You just have no idea 200 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: what God can do with a small thing like a 201 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: desk calendar. So my friend Sharon had this desk calendar 202 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: and it was a daily desk calendar of Christian quotes. 203 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: And this one day that I happened to be in 204 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: her classroom, I just looked over her shoulder and I 205 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: saw this desk calendar and it was Isaiah forty one 206 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: to ten. Fear not right, And in that moment, it 207 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: was the exact thing I needed to hear because I 208 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: was living in fear. And she didn't realize that I 209 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: was watching or reading over her shoulder any of this. 210 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: She was just living out her life in the way 211 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: that felt faithful to her, and she chose to put 212 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: this desk calendar on her elementary school public school desk, 213 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: having no idea that it would impact me. And after 214 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: I read that fear not verse, it stuck in my 215 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: head for days, and as I'm starting to spiral with anxiety, 216 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: this verse out of nowhere just kept finding me. Fear 217 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: not for I am with you, I will strengthen you. 218 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: I am your God. Don't be afraid, and its spiraled 219 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: in me. And I made a point each morning to 220 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: go in and stand behind Sharon's desk as I borrowed something, 221 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, a tide pen, or I just happened to 222 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: need to be into her classroom, or I just wanted 223 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: to say hello so I could read what was on 224 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: her Christian desk calendar. And all of this I kept 225 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: in my heart. But God was using it in ways 226 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: to prepare me for him to reintroduce to me who 227 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: Jesus really was, which was the Jesus who washed his feet. 228 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: And had it not been for Sharon doing something small 229 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: like that and being I guess unafraid to be who 230 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: she was, I would have missed all of that. I 231 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: think the choices that we make every day as Christians 232 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: are so important to the people around us in ways 233 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: that we could never know. The way that we move 234 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: in the world, the way that we walk, the way 235 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: that we talk. People who don't know Jesus are watching. 236 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: And because of the environment at that elementary school, because 237 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: of these relational Christians who loved on me, who cared 238 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: for me, and who reintroduced Jesus to me, I'm here 239 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: today this Holy ripple effect. And it started with a 240 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: desk calendar, just something so small, and the love that 241 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: was lavished on me. As a result, the Holy Ripple 242 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: effect was eventually I gave my life to Jesus. I 243 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: had to have some hard conversations with my family and 244 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: make some major changes in my life. I ended up 245 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: quitting my elementary school job, and I took a position 246 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: at our churts as director of children's ministry, which was 247 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: in and of itself crazy because yes, a'mn elementary school teacher. 248 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: But I hadn't read the New test in it. I'd 249 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: never read any of it before, and I had to 250 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: learn all of those things. And all of these wonderful 251 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: people that God placed in my life allowed me to 252 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: just learn and grow as I went. But it all 253 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: started at the hands of just Christians who were kind 254 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: and accepting and not judgmental. They're not about persuasion as 255 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: much as they were about presence. And that made a 256 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: difference in my life. And the ripple effect that we 257 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: talked about has to deal with the things that occurred 258 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: in the thirty years after, how it affected my family, 259 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: how it affected the children. I've had an opportunity to 260 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: learn and grow with the Bible studies, all of these 261 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: things that just the hands of something so small, because 262 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: our God is so much bigger than we can imagine. 263 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: And when you wake up in the morning and you 264 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: get your coffee and you get in your car and 265 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: you drive to work, if we're one sided and we're 266 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: only thinking about the path that we have ahead of 267 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: us for our day, we are missing the path that 268 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: God has for those that He has placed around us. 269 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: Your co worker, the grocery store clerk, your neighbor, if 270 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: you're walking outside with a cross on, either visibly or 271 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: in your heart, saying the Hebrew word hanani, which means 272 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: here I am, before you get to work, before you 273 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: sit down with your coworkers, before you go into a 274 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: family gathering. That Hebrew word Hannani here I am is 275 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity to present your life as a living sacrifice 276 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: to God. God use me, use my life, and you 277 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: just never know how it could change a life like 278 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: it did mine. And I actually wear a couple bracelets. 279 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: One is Hannani Hebrew word, and another one is this 280 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: brave bracelet that a friend got for me as a 281 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: reminder to me that the responsibility that we have as 282 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: Christians to represent Jesus well to people who have not 283 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: met him is so important. Because I didn't walk face 284 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: first into the New Testament, right, I walked face first 285 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: into the relationship of the people at that elementary school. 286 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: So before I met Jesus in scripture and word, I 287 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: met him through the relationships of the people at my school. 288 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: And had it not been for them, I probably would 289 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: still be walking around with the voices of the bullies 290 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: in my head telling me that I was unlovable. And 291 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: I just want to pause here for a moment talk 292 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: a little bit about forgiveness, because I have forgiven those 293 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: kids just because I know I need forgiveness as well, 294 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: and they were just kids, right, just like all of us. 295 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: And being able to forgive and walk through something where 296 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: we have done harm in Jesus's name, there's repentance. It's 297 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: easily forgiven. But if we're not thinking about how we 298 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: impact the kingdom, I think we are missing beautiful opportunities 299 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: to share God and Jesus with people who don't know him. 300 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: I love so much about all of the story, but 301 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: it really is such a reminder that our words matter 302 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: no matter what age we are. That Peter, that's right, 303 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: and things that people said to us that twenty thirty 304 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: forty years ago, they stick with us, the good and 305 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: the bad and the way that we are living. People 306 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: are watching and then correct me if I'm wrong. But 307 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: it was that same teacher that invited you to come 308 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: to church, or was it the principal. 309 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: Well, so both of them were kind of living into 310 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: that space. Our principal had set the table for this 311 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: elementary school to be a place of God. He used 312 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: to walk around unbeknownst to me and lay hands on doors, 313 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: and they did prayer walks around the school. And the 314 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: fact that God just happened to drop me into this 315 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: elementary school full of wonderful Christians, there's just no coincidences there. 316 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: Sharon and several of the other friends. There were lots 317 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: of teachers that were praying for me. Once word got 318 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: out about this hallway prayer, they all started lavishing beautiful 319 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: gifts on me and leaving me things on my desk. Secretly, 320 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: Jesus loves you the Isaiah forty one ten verse a 321 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: cross keychain, just lavishing me with the love of Jesus 322 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: and invited me to this church. That's a whole nother story. 323 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: The first time I went to church. There's so many 324 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: godwinks and that as well, but finding community in a 325 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: place where I could learn and grow and meet Jesus, 326 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: the Jesus who washed his feet changed changed everything. It 327 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: just changed everything. 328 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: The cross tya chain is on the cover of the book. 329 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. 330 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: Yes. 331 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 332 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: One of the other things that I remember from your 333 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: book too, is when you first went to this church 334 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: that God met you there. He was in every single 335 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: moment orchestrating. And if we're just quiet enough to listen, 336 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: we do see He's always working. But I just don't 337 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: think sometimes we even notice. 338 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this term God winks. 339 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: There is a so godwinks and I have had such 340 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: an interesting connection because every time I turn around. I 341 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: feel like God is giving me a little nudge and 342 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 1: a wink that He is there with us. And if 343 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: I could encourage your listeners to be aware of these 344 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: moments that are blessings God reaching down and saying I 345 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: Am with you, it changes the way that you look 346 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: at your day. The day that I went to Riverside 347 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: for the first time, there were so many connections that 348 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: encouraged me that I was in the right place, including 349 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: a student who happened to be singing with the band 350 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: that I had taught years before. Because I mean, I 351 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: have to be honest. When I walked into the elementary school, 352 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: it was a far cry from the synagogue I grew 353 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: up in with a beautiful Beama and the Torah and 354 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: the recitation of the Rabbi and the Canter. I walked 355 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: into an elementary school church right with makeshift white drop 356 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: down screen and plastic risers and chairs that had been 357 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 1: broken down that had been used in the gymnasium. And 358 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: I walked in and I was completely overwhelmed. And to 359 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: be honest, I wanted to run out immediately, thinking I'd 360 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: made a huge mistake. But God, God was like, watch this. 361 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: I finally walked in and there was a student of 362 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: mine in the band who I hadn't seen in years, 363 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: and I thought, Okay, I'll stay. I'll stay for her. 364 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: And then the very first song that they sang was 365 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: Shine Jesus Shine my last Name, and I just remember 366 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: I looked at my husband, I looked at Sharon because 367 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: none of us could believe that that was the very 368 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: first song. And then the pastor who was talking about 369 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: how fear is something that can really affect the rest 370 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: of our lives, because again it's in the middle of 371 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: the sniper attack. When he flashed on the screen the 372 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: verse for the day, it was Isaiah forty one to ten, 373 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: fear not where I am with you. I just couldn't 374 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: believe it. And God has followed me that way through 375 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: the next twenty thirty years of moments where because of 376 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: His love for extending what I needed and allowing my 377 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: faith to grow taken the Hennani here I am and 378 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: just flow open doors for me in ways that I 379 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: could have never imagined. While I still carry anxiety with 380 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: me right and I fight it all the time, trying 381 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: to just be brave. Just getting on the plane to 382 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: that very first conference where I met you, in the 383 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: hallway was kind of the endgame for me. I just thought, Okay, 384 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: I had all these people telling me, Kara, you need 385 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: to write the story. You need to write the story. 386 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: I held onto it for twenty plus years, and I 387 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: just was going to live out my life quietly in 388 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: Northern Virginia, serving at my church. And that's a godwink 389 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: in itself. Finally decided Okay, Hanani, here, I am God. 390 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: You gave me the story that doesn't belong to me. 391 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to put it out into the world. Please 392 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: help me. I'm just going to get on the plane 393 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: and go to this conference, never expecting what happened next, 394 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: which was meeting Rachel Adams in a hallway, meeting a publisher, 395 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: getting this book contract, and all of the things that 396 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: had happened as a result of the Henani Right, And 397 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: if I just want to encourage your listeners a couple 398 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: of things. Number One, submit your life right. Submit your 399 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: life in a way that allows for the power of 400 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit to open up whatever that path is 401 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: for you. Because if it is your path, God will 402 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: meet you in it. And whatever fears you have about 403 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: sharing your faith, please understand that the people in your 404 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: world and in your life are watching and you just 405 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: never know when somebody, your neighbor, your coworker, somebody in 406 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: your family needs to see Jesus through you and to 407 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: be brave with that message because it can change a 408 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: life and have a holy ripple effect. 409 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it's changed yours. Right before the we 410 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: to hit record, you were telling me something you've been 411 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: doing is laying crosstrate in prayer. And so I want 412 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: to be clear to listeners, like, just because Kara had 413 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: this moment with the Lord and she's become a believer, 414 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: fear and anxiety and troubles in. 415 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: This world have not stopped. 416 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: But it's just the posture of your heart and you 417 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: know where to go to fund the peace. And that's 418 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: what changes. It's not necessarily always our stircumstances, but it's 419 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: how we respond to those circumstances. So for the woman 420 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: right now that is maybe living in anxiety and fear 421 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: and her circumstances are just swirling, it may not be 422 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: a sniper attack, but it could be something else that 423 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: is taking so much fear in her. So that's right 424 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: to that woman today about the difference that a relationship 425 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: with God can have. 426 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: If I could just reach through the screen and hug 427 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: and hug that woman right now and just let you 428 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: know you are not alone, and you do not need 429 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: to do this by yourself. It's just too heavy for you. 430 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: You just need to lay it down at God's feet. 431 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: I know for me, my anxiety spirals the more I 432 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: close my fists, if that makes sense. The more I 433 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: try to control the things that I am not meant 434 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: to control, the more I work myself out of God's presence. 435 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: And because now that I know Jesus, when I find 436 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: myself in that cycle that's so familiar to me, I 437 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: remind myself, but God is bigger. God is bigger, and 438 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: You're not meant to hold these things. Release it. And 439 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: the only way I can release it is to get 440 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: into the word and to pray it out. And recently 441 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: I have been just laying on my face in my 442 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: dining room floor, just praying out the promises that God 443 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: has on our lives. That you are not alone. He 444 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: will not leave you. He will leave the ninety nine 445 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: to find you. And His sole purpose in your life 446 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: is to make you more like him. And sometimes in 447 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: order to make us more like him, that requires struggle 448 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: that requires seasons of hardships. But I finally understand that 449 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: verse from James one to two. Consider it pure joy, brothers, 450 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: when you face trials of different kinds, because they will 451 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: produce perseverance. I never used to understand that verse until 452 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: this past year in writing this book, because once you 453 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: step out in faith, sometimes there will be there will 454 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: be voices that will try to take you off the path. 455 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: But now I understand what that word joy means in 456 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: that verse, because I have found joy the presence of 457 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: the Lord laying on my face in my dining room, 458 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: crying into the wool carpet. I can step into that 459 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: piece and I don't have to do it alone, because 460 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: I'm not alone. And God's purpose for my life, for 461 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: your life, for your listener's life, is to glorify Him. 462 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: And the way that we do that is through the refining. 463 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: And sometimes that can be anxiety, that can be a 464 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: difficulty in your family, that can be something going on 465 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: at work, in financial troubles, all of these things, there 466 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: are blessings there when we draw closer to God and 467 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: just release our hands and surrender it in ways that 468 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: we then get to reflect to other people. So in 469 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: our troubles as we grow closer to Jesus, and we 470 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: can say yes, but the people in our lives see that, 471 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: and we get to reflect Jesus's love, which is what 472 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: happened to me at this school. All of these Christians, 473 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: we're experiencing the same thing I was with the anxiety 474 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: of these sniper attacks. But because they had Jesus, they 475 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: reflected a different posture about the way that the things 476 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: of life were affecting them. And I noticed, and I 477 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: saw that, and I thought that there's something there, There's 478 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: something different that I don't have, and I want that. 479 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: So I know that we've mentioned those people that were 480 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: impactful to you and bringing you closer to the Lord, 481 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: and there were several people, and I'm sure there's many more, 482 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: but in the book that maybe there was a neighbor. 483 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: And then you had to have a conversation with your parents. 484 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: So talk to us a little bit about the transition 485 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 2: after you accepted Jesus as. 486 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: Your Lord and savior. So that has been a continual 487 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: journey because I kept a lot of these things in 488 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: my heart for a while after that Hallway prayer, because 489 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: I felt at odds with the thing that I also loved, 490 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: which is my Judaism and the experiences of my youth. 491 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: And I really struggled to tell my family and friends 492 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: that I loved Jesus because it to me, it felt 493 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: like trying to take the puzzle pieces of my life 494 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: and just scattering them on the floor. So I was 495 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: very nervous about those conversations, but once I had them, 496 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: I was surprised at how graceful they were, and as 497 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: a result, twenty years later, my parents now come and 498 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: listen to me whenever I get to preach. My dad 499 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: recently bought his first Bible. We have conversations about the 500 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: power of Jesus, and it is something that was difficult. 501 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: It was, but I know that it was part of 502 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: the process and it just it needed to happen, and 503 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: being able to let those things go talking about the 504 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: Holy Ripple effect while all of this was happening. My 505 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: neighbor who was Muslim, Sheku, She was the one person 506 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: I told because I knew she would understand what I 507 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: was going through trying to reconcile these two worlds and 508 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: things that I loved. And as a result of the 509 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: conversation that I had with her about going to church 510 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: and talking about scripture and hearing about Jesus. I won't 511 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: give it away, but there were some there were some wonderful, 512 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: beautiful things that happened in her life, and she and 513 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: I are are just soul sisters forever, and God has 514 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: moved in ways that you just could never imagine. 515 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: One of the things that I love so much about 516 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 2: this conversation is that it encourages me, moving forward throughout 517 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: my day, to no one say here I am, and 518 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 2: to believe that He is working. Sometimes I think we 519 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: believe that it's going to be in these really big ways, 520 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: but right most everything that you've talked about happened in 521 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: really small moments that did have really great, amazing outcomes. 522 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I think that that's. 523 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: Just encouraging to me as I go throughout my day 524 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: that my little life here in Kentucky matters. 525 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: What matters, it matters. With this book, I keep saying, 526 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: I really want this book to build bridges, not walls, 527 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: between people of different faiths more than anything, because when 528 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: you think about a bridge, there's two entry points on 529 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: both sides, and whether you are a believer or not 530 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: a believer, or somebody who's seeking in order to get 531 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: across the chasm that separates the two ideas. Somebody has 532 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: to take a step. Somebody has to move before that 533 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: chasm can be reached. And if you're not thinking to 534 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: yourself in the morning when you wake up, God, let 535 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: me take the first step. Use my life. Help me 536 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: to be the person that steps across that chasm towards 537 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: somebody in my life who maybe doesn't know who you are. 538 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: Bridge building requires movement. We know Jesus moved first and 539 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: built the bridge, But if we're standing on either side, 540 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: afraid and just nervous about how it will be taken 541 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: or offending somebody or rocking the boat, we need to 542 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: present that to God and ask for the courage. I 543 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: guess to think about, how do I take that step 544 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: towards somebody that I love, who I have been praying 545 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: and hoping would meet Jesus. And I think that's probably 546 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: one of the most important things that I've learned over 547 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: the years about being able to share the gospel. The 548 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: first thing is I have to pray. I have to 549 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: not just pray for the people in my life that 550 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: I know, I have to pray for the people in 551 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: my life that maybe I haven't even met. Yet right 552 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: that coworker, the person that I'm you know, take my 553 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: car into the shop, the person that's coming and fixing 554 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: the pointing of my house. You just never know how 555 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: those conversations can go. But if you remind yourself that 556 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: God is so much bigger and his sole purpose is 557 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: to introduce himself to everybody in our lives, we have 558 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: to be the one right to take that first step 559 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: for the introduction. So the first thing would be to pray. 560 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: The second thing would be, I think also to just listen. 561 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: Just listen to the people around you, because chances are 562 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: there is somebody in your life that God has already 563 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: placed who's going through a really hard time like anxiety, 564 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: and just needs somebody to compassionately listen again, not out 565 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: of persuasion, just to be present. And then I think 566 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: they're just surrender, surrender all of it into God's hands, 567 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: because we know that not every mustard seed will grow 568 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: and only God can change hearts. But being aware that 569 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: our walk with Jesus is not meant for just ourselves. 570 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: Right in the Book of Luke, when Jesus calls the 571 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: disciples and he says, cast out your net, and Simon 572 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: says we've been doing it all night. Father where exhausted. 573 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: The nets are heavy, and then he says, but because 574 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: you said so, we will do it, and they cast 575 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: their nets out one more time. And what we know 576 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: is there's a bounty that comes back as the result 577 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: of that faith of casting the nets. Jesus says, I'll 578 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: make you fisher of men. We are all capable of 579 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: being fisher of men. And I think the responsibility and 580 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: the joy that comes from being able to share Jesus 581 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: with the people in your life, there's just that's our purpose. 582 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: That's what I think God wants in our lives. And 583 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: you just never know when somebody's reading over your shoulder. 584 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, ah, that's such beautiful encouragement. And you've talked a 585 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: lot about God's love, maybe confusion about God's love in 586 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: the beginning, and then as you learn to grow in 587 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 2: knowing him as your father and you as his beloved. 588 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: And so is there a biblical concept of love that 589 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: you think applies to this topic today? 590 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: I think probably the thing that connected the Old Testament 591 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: and the New Testament for me is the Shamah in 592 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: Deuteronomy six's five. It's the watchword of my people. Hero Israel. 593 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: The Lord is our God. The Lord is one. It's 594 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: the most important prayer for a Jewish person, which is, 595 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: we have one God, we serve one God, and we 596 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: love him with all of our strength, with all of 597 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: our mind. When I read for the first time in 598 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: the Book of Matthew, which again for me, i'd never 599 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: read any of this, I sat on the corner of 600 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: my room reading the Book of Matthew, and I got 601 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: to the Greatest Commandment, where they asked Jesus, Rabbi, what 602 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: is the greatest commandment? And he said, love the Lord 603 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: your God with all your heart, with all your soul, 604 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: with all your strength. And the second is love your 605 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: neighbors yourself. It took the two pieces of my world 606 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: and combine them so beautifully. To know that Jesus knew 607 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: the Shema, loved the Shema meant that he loved my 608 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: people too. And then he added, and love your neighbor 609 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: as yourself. And who's your neighbor? Everybody, everybody, everybody, and 610 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: that included a Jewish a Jewish girl looking over the 611 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: shoulder of my coworker at a little Christian desk calendar. 612 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: And the way God can use anything, Yeah. 613 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: You need to become an affiliate for like Christian desk calendars. 614 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: But I'm thinking about that. It's funny because I do. 615 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: I have several of them that I use and that 616 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: I listened to. But yeah, I could definitely think about 617 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: the power of just a small little thing like a 618 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: guess calendar. Who would have it? Who would have it? 619 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: I think we all need to add one. 620 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: Tom is on cart right now. 621 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 622 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: Well, actually, so I've been doing and experiencing God's Study 623 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: by Henry Blackaby, and each week we're supposed to have 624 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: a we have a memory verse, and so it's kind 625 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: of a perforated little index card, and I thought, where 626 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: am I the most? Ended up deciding on my kitchen sink, 627 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: well as my kids and my husband and their friends 628 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: and everybody's been at home. I'm tell everybody has noticed 629 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: this verse of the week, and everybody has asked about it, Mom, 630 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: what's this? 631 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: Hey, what's this? And so I thought, well, I. 632 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: Mean again, it's just something small. It was something that 633 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: was for me, but it's impacting other people too, And 634 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 2: it started the conversation. It's God's word does not return void, 635 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: does it? 636 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: That's right? And when we seek first the kingdom and 637 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: that's our purpose. God will God will return it kindfold. 638 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so tell us other than desk calendars and 639 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: God's word, what's something else that you are living right now? 640 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I have had the opportunity over the 641 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: course of the past three years to work with high 642 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: school ministry and we have this Tuesday morning Bible study. 643 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: Every Tuesday morning, these kids wake up before school Rachel 644 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: eight o'clock in the morning, they come to church and 645 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: we study the Word. We started about four years ago. 646 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: It was like fifteen faithful kids that would come every 647 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. Last year, these kids caught fire and started 648 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: sharing with all of the people in their high school 649 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: how much they loved Jesus and the power of invitation 650 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: through relationships. Just like what happened to me. They are 651 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: living out their faith in ways that other people are 652 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: seeing and they they're contagious Christians. And just this past Tuesday, 653 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: we had fifty one kids show up and I started teaching, 654 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: and I all of a sudden, our youth pastor walked 655 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: up next to me and handed me a microphone a microphone, 656 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: and I stopped and I looked at all the kids 657 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, can we just take a moment 658 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: and celebrate what God has done through the power of 659 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: relational love and invitation. So that's what I'm loving right now. 660 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 2: You said, contagious Christians and relational love. It really is 661 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: what a privilege that we partner with God, that we 662 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: get to be his and his instruments like that, that 663 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: is right, Like we are so fortunate that we get 664 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 2: to do that for him and with him. 665 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. And it changes the course of 666 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: our day. It does if you're aligning your heart with 667 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: the purpose God has for you, which is to share Jesus, 668 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: to make disciples, to cast your net. It changes the 669 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: way you look at the world. It changes your purpose. 670 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 1: If your job is not giving you joy, make make 671 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: this part of your joy and weave it into just 672 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: your everyday, ordinary life. And all of a sudden, the 673 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: things that are ordinary they're just not ordinary anymore because 674 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: we're glorifying Jesus. And there is just nothing better. There isn't. 675 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it can change somebody's eternity, And so it does, 676 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: it really does. These simple, faithful, quiet, ordinary moments can 677 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 2: can change everything forever. 678 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 679 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 2: Well, I'm thankful that I had a divide appointment with 680 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 2: you as in a hallway two years ago, and that's 681 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: a Rachel. I know, I want to stay connected with you. 682 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure listeners are going to want to stay connected 683 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: with you and get a copy of this book, so 684 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 2: tell us how we can do that. 685 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: You can definitely find me at Kerashine dot com. That's 686 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: where I'll have all the announcements for books and you 687 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: can see some of the other sermons I've had the 688 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: privilege of preaching. And then Instagram see Shine three. I'd 689 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: love to connect and hear back from anyone who's listening, 690 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: so you can DM me and I'll definitely respond. Those 691 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: are probably the best two places to find me. And 692 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: then on Facebook too, Karrashine. 693 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'll include those links in the show notes. But 694 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: would you pray for us as weakness. 695 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: It would be my honor. Yes, Oh Father God, we 696 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: just thank you that we get to step into your 697 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: presence every moment of every day and whatever is happening 698 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: in our lives, no matter the anxiety or the circumstance 699 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: or the seasons, you can just cover our hearts with 700 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: joy and remind us that the only thing that we 701 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: need to do is surrender into your presence and whisper 702 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: our hanani our here I am, Father, use our lives, 703 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: fill us with purpose, Let us see the people in 704 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: our lives that you would have us go to. Father. 705 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: We just we take the responsibility of this beautiful partnership 706 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: with you to be your hands and feet. Father, just 707 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: realign our hearts in a way that allows people to 708 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: meet the Jesus who washes feet and who loves us 709 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: in ways that we could never imagine. Father, we thank 710 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: you so much for your love in your holy and 711 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: precious name. Amen Amen Gia. 712 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: Thanks for being my guest and for encouraging us to 713 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 2: move past fear and move towards the Lord and to 714 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: other people and reach out for his sake. I just 715 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 2: appreciate you and this conversation so much. 716 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,959 Speaker 1: It was my absolute, absolute honor. Rachel, thank you so much. 717 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Love Offering podcast. 718 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 2: I hope today's conversation encourage you to love God, love others, 719 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: and even love yourself a little more. If this episode 720 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 2: blessed you, please share it with it fore and and 721 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 2: leave review. It helps others find the show and spreads 722 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: the message of love even further. To connect with me 723 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 2: visit me on my website at Rachelcadams dot com, where 724 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: you can download the Love Offering Calendar, a free resource 725 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: filled with simple daily ways to love those around you. 726 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 2: Be sure to pick up a copy of Kara's new book, 727 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 2: The Hallway Miracle, a powerful testimony of God meeting us 728 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: in our fear and drawing us into his piece. A 729 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: special thank you to Life Audio for supporting this podcast 730 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: and making it possible to find more great podcasts. Visit 731 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: lifeaudio dot com. Until next time, let's make our lives 732 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: an offering of love.