1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer, and this is Josh Hammer Show. 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Will he or won't t? 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: The debate about Iran impossible imminent military action definitely continues. 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: For what it's worth, we continue to think that de 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: truministration is much likelier than not to engage in kinetic 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: action here at some point over the next week at 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: the most, potentially as soon as this weekend, that is 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: when the second aircraft carrier Strike Group, the USS Gerald 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: R Ford is anticipated to make its way into the region. 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: We shall see and joining us a little bit later 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: to potentially unpack that as well as the Board of 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: Peace road in DC today is Daniel Greenfield, the CEO 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: of David Horror Stream Center. Much to get to, certainly 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: on stage show, but for now we do begin by 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: talking about the Board of Peace. So what is the 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Board of Peace? Well, the Board of Peace was just 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: unrolled formally at the World Economic Forum on the sidelines 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: of the Davos globalist boondoggle last month, just in January. 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: The Border Piece formally came into being actually via UN 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: Security Council Resolution twenty eight three. And this is Donald 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: Trump's baby. The Border Piece is basically an idea that 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is personally overseeing, and he was in DC 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: earlier today meeting with representatives from at least forty different countries. 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: So representatives from over forty countries were formally there, and 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: then there were non member observers from a dozen more. 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: The membership of this border piece is quite high, a 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: lot of Arab countries, countries like Saudi Arabia and the 28 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: UAE and Katar, some other countries such as Argentina, Hungary, Bulgaria. 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: It's actually a Bulgarian former EU Parliament member, Nikolai Modanov, 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: who was actually heading up this body. 31 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 2: He is the high. 32 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Representative for the Border Piece and as such he is 33 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: tasked with being the intermediary between the actual international body 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: itself and the technocrat interim Palestinian government that is kind 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: of sort of operating on the ground in Gaza. Now, 36 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: the million dollar question is does this have any chance 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: of succeeding? But before you even gets that, the first thing 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 1: to unpack is what exactly is this? When the Border 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: Piece was first described by Donald Trump in twenty twenty five, 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: it seemed at first like he was going to be 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: a Gaza centric organization. It seemed like he was going 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: to be part of this attempt to bring in the 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: family of Nations from around the world to have a 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: stake in the probably years will take to clean up Gaza. 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: There has already been some sort of mission creep insofar 46 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: as expanding the ambit from just Gaza now potentially rivaling 47 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: the Unite Nations as a whole. Ironically, as I mentioned, 48 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: the boarder piece was actually really instantiated via UN Security 49 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: Council Resolution Resolution twenty eight oh three. But as it 50 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: currently stands, this border piece, which again was formerly rolled 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: out in Washington, d C. Earlier today, Donald Trump was there, 52 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Jeddie Vance was there, Steve Whitcoff, Jared Kushner, Mark or Rubio, 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the big diplomatic heavyweights from the administration there. 54 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: The potential source of excitement or fear, depending on your perspective, 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: is that the border piece could actually be just that 56 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: could be a full fledged rival to the Unite Nations. Now, 57 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: on the one hands, the United Nations has been an 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: epic catastrophic failure. It has been the number one example 59 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: of the utterly foolhardy nature of the pie in the sky. 60 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: John Lennon imagine utopian international community model and the border 61 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: piece to the extent that it is more grounded in reality, 62 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: perhaps perhaps has some potential to actually do a little 63 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: more and to actually be a little more effective than 64 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: the United Nations basically exists on the one hand, to 65 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: paraphrase the famous Star Wars quotes, as a wretched hive 66 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: of scummon villainy. And on the other hand, the UN 67 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: is basically just a place to virture, signal and to 68 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: try to appease the timpot dictators and totalitarians of the world. 69 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: Now, the Border Piece, though, has. 70 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: A lot of these troublesome actors who are heavily involved 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: in it. For instance, rect of type Ertawan's Turkey technically 72 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: a nato Que unquote outlet, but Turkey is a very 73 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: problem out of country. Turkey is heavily involved here in 74 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: the Border Piece. Has been a big debate lurking in 75 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: the background for months now as to the extent to 76 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: which Turkey and Katar, which are the two top Muslim 77 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: brotherhood hamas financial benefactors in the entire Sunni Muslim world, 78 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: has been debate about the extent to which they will 79 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: actually be allowed to have international peacekeepers on the ground 80 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: in Gaza. And that is why I found the notable 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: that actually earlier this week, Turkey actually inaugurated a brand 82 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: new mosque in Gaza that is named after the Salafi 83 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: Sunni Islam theologian Shaik Abdullah Azam. Now you probably don't 84 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: know who Shaik Abdullah Azam is. He is the co 85 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: founder of al Qaeda, the guy who literally mentor osamban Lanen. 86 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: So our quote unquote NATO ally Turkey is using this 87 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: board of peace and promoteur of legitimacy and is going 88 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: into Gaza and is literally naming a new mosque after 89 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: the co founder of al Qaeda. So look, on the 90 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: one hand, it certainly seems like intense skepticism is probably warranted. 91 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: On the other hand, Donald Trump has clearly earned the 92 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt when it comes to virtually all 93 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: things Middle East related. He of course is the one 94 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: who who killed al Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS. Back 95 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: during his first term. He killed Sulamani, the head of 96 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: the IRGC cuts forward the Iranian Archi terrorists. He have 97 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: the Midnight Hammer beat O Bomber runs on the Iranian 98 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: nuclear facilities there. 99 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: He generally has. 100 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: Overseen a highly successful set of policies across multiple terms. 101 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: Now when it comes to the Middle East, and frankly, 102 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: I would argue, actually, really in the world stage in general, 103 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: Donald Trump talking about the real sort of damocles working 104 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: over this whole conversation talking about the Iranian threat earlier 105 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: today in Washington at the border piece rolld out, go 106 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: ahead and watch this clib. 107 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 3: The time for Iran to join us on a path 108 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: that will complete what we're doing. And if they join us, 109 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: that'll be great. If they don't join us, that'll be 110 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 3: great too, but it'll be a very different path. They 111 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: cannot continue to threaten the stability of the entire region, 112 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: and they must make a deal or if that doesn't happen, 113 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: I maybe can understand if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, 114 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 3: but bad things will happen if it doesn't. 115 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: All right, So Donald Trump saying the right thing is 116 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: certainly there. When it comes to Iran again, our prediction 117 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: remains Donald Trump is going to engage in kinetic action 118 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: here at some point over the semi. 119 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 2: Im minute future. 120 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: Probably not happening, say here tomorrow, but at some point 121 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: it certainly seems like all signs of pointing towards a 122 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: go there. In the Middle East, the fundamental problem when 123 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: it comes to Iran and Gaza in some sense actually 124 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: is the same. And this is the point that I 125 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: really want to build up towards the problem when it 126 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: comes to this notion of negotiations diplomacy with Iran, and 127 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: again the administration, to their credit, they're saying a lot 128 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: of the right things when it comes to this notion 129 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: of negotiation with Iran, even jd Vance, who comes from 130 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: the slightly more isolationist wing of the party. Again he's 131 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 1: not full on Tucker Carlson, but jady Van's actually even 132 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: saying that he was very disappointed by the Iranian regimes 133 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: foreign minister in Geneva, Switzerland's earlier this week where they 134 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: met with Wig Coffin Kushner for a second round of negotiations, 135 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: and Jadvan saying that Iran is just completely incapable of 136 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: actually owning up and meeting Donald Trump's various firm redline 137 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: commitments when it comes to what the outlines and the 138 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: confines of a deal must look like. The problem is 139 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: somewhat similar in Gaza. There is something of a failure 140 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: going on to recognize the crass, sordid reality on the ground, 141 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: Hamas is definitely taking a serious, serious beat up. On 142 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: the other hand, they're not done. They're absolutely not gone. 143 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: In fact, Hamas intermediaries through this Bulgarian former EU parliament 144 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: member who's essentially the intermediary between the Palestine and Technocratic 145 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: interim government and the border peace Hamas fighters recently saying 146 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: that they are not giving up their arms. The Israeli 147 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: government saying that Hamas must lay down all of their 148 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: small arms up to including basic handguns and rifles, and 149 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: Hamas basically saying no way, We're not doing that. So 150 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: at some point all of this talk has to meet 151 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: some sort of action, and the fundamental problem, whether you're 152 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: talking about the theocratic Islamist Molas in Tehran of a 153 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Shiai persuasion or the fundamental seventh century aspying Shreaz supremacist 154 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: of a Sunni persuasion in Gaza in the form of Hamas, 155 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: or their clan tribal rivals in Palestine Islami Jihad, the 156 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: fundamental problem is very much the same thing, which is 157 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: dealing with a reventiist group of Islamist thugs who are 158 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: driven by dog by in ideology to try and conquer 159 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: and to subjugate, and to maim, to rape, and to 160 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: kill in the purported name of their religion. That is 161 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: a very, very hard, difficult reality for a lot of 162 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: Western oriented thinkers and statesmen to meet. It is one 163 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: of the many reasons why the United Nations has been 164 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: such an epic catastrophic failure for decades and decades, because 165 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: the UN operates this mentality very similar frankly in some 166 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: ways ironically to the George W. Bush Ministration's freedom Agenda mentality. 167 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: The UN kind of operates in this mentality that because 168 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: we are all the brothers of the world, and let's 169 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: hold hands, and again John Lennon's stupid song, imagine, let's 170 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: eradicate borders, and we're all the same. We all aspire 171 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: to peace and love and happiness and puppies and rainbows 172 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: and unicorn farts and all this. There's a failure to 173 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: recognize what Islam actually is. To be clear, in the 174 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: clearest terms possible, how in the world can there actually 175 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: be peace in Gaza If the people of Gaza don't 176 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: change their ways, don't change their habits of mind, don't 177 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: change their thinking, You're dealing with one of the most 178 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: radicalized populations in the world in some ways nineteen forty 179 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: five nineteen forty six era Germany during the post World 180 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: War Two denazification of Germany. In some ways, that actually 181 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: pales in comparison to the problem facing Gaza. Nazism was 182 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: one of the most runeous evil ideologies in human history, 183 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: but it wasn't necessarily predicated on a fundamentally fanatical, zealous 184 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: religious basis, the same way that Islamism and specifically the 185 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood of which moossibly the Palicy and arab Issus, 186 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: the way that they operate a day in day of basis. 187 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I this border 188 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: piece nothing but the best to the extent that is 189 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: going to rest away power from the failure of the 190 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: Unite Nations and Turtle Bay in New York City. I 191 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: celebrate that, really, I absolutely celebrate that. But I do 192 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: not understand how this is actually going to work. Unless 193 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: the people of Gaza somehow have a massive change of 194 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: heart and mind, and unless Hamas actually disarms from soup 195 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: to nuts, that's not going to happen. Therefore, frankly, I 196 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: wish this organization the best. I love the fact that 197 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: Trump's inside about it, but frankly, it's very hard to 198 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: see how this has a happy ending. 199 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: Folks, stay with us with a break. 200 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: On the other side, Daniel Greenfield, CEO of the David 201 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: Horse Room Center, joined us to discuss his new pamphlets 202 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: Small America. 203 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: Stay with Us, We'll be right back. Welcome back. 204 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: So really, no one better to join the program now 205 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: to unpack much of what we just discussed and related 206 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: topics than my friend Daniel Greenfield's Dane Greenfield is the 207 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: CEO of the David Horror Rooms Center, also a Shilman 208 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: Fellow there. I am proud and honored myself to now 209 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: be a Shilman Fellow. I am actually now Daniel's colleague 210 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: at the Freedom Center. You can follow Daniel on x 211 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: at Sultan Kanish. He's been one of the most prolific 212 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: bloggers and writers in the right of center media ecosystem 213 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: for many years now. I think Daniel full mistake in 214 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: making your long overdue first appearance on the show, so 215 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: we're very grateful for that and look forward to having 216 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: you on more often in the future. If you'll oblige us, Daniel, 217 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: let's start with a different issue and then kind of 218 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: work our way back perhaps to this board of Peace 219 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: conversation that's really dominating the news cycle. So I want 220 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: to start on the issue of Somaldi fraud. We've been 221 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: hitting this topic very hard here on the show for 222 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: months now. You had Chris Rufo, Nick Shirley, among others, 223 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: really blew this thing into the public national intention with 224 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: some writings and on the ground YouTube expose's, respectively. But 225 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: this has been going on for a long time, Daniel, 226 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: as you know, because you have a brand new pamphlet 227 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: out at the Freedom Center called Samal America The Rise 228 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: of Smalley Fraud, Crime and Error in America. So tell 229 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: us about this, this new pamphlet and what you've uncovered 230 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: in the course of research in the origins and the 231 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: extent of Somali fraud in America. 232 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: This definitely goes back aways over to David Harward's Freedom Center. 233 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: We've actually been covering this for nearly a decade, so 234 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 4: it goes back much further than people realize. And the 235 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 4: Minnesota authorities were well aware of this, much further back 236 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: than they wanted to admit. There were trials actually in 237 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 4: twenty fifteen, over ten years ago. Now, they brought some 238 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 4: of these people who were defrauding day cares in the 239 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: same method to court. And what they did was they 240 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 4: really threw the book at them. They really let them 241 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 4: have it. Two of the billers were barred from billing 242 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 4: the state of Minnesota for two years. That was the 243 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: very harsh penalty. Fun fact is one of these billers 244 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: actually became a senator in Minnesota and Samawi, I'm sorry 245 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: Minnesota and Samaya easy to get confused. He became a 246 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: senator in Somalia and he's still voting in elections in Minnesota, 247 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: which is a great gig if you can have it. 248 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: And look, as you said, this is really really blown 249 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: up into this Spali recently but been going on for 250 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: a very very long time. What are you looking at 251 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: in terms of follow up in possible repercussions. I know 252 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: Secretary Scott Besen't at Treasury is from looking into possible 253 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: possible terrorism sanctions of Asians so that there's alts reporting 254 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: of the funneling potentially billions of Minnesota state tax payer dollars, 255 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: possibly even federal dollars into Somali terrorists or organizations. What 256 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: are you looking to, Daniel in terms of follow up 257 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: here when it comes to legal and political repercussions. 258 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: So we were talking about Samai because that was a 259 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 4: huge story that blew up, largely because the fraud was 260 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: un control. They went from a few million to billing 261 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: a two hundred million. They were claiming they were distributing 262 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: millions of meals to Somali kids. It was ridiculous just 263 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: how out of control was. But this is happening in 264 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: a more controlled fashion across the country. Recently uncovered a 265 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: similar Pakistani operation in New York, which also had some 266 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: of the same hallmarks. It just wasn't as big, but 267 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 4: that one actually had ties to DNC chairs and people 268 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: in the Democratic Party, and actually in New York, this 269 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 4: is happening. You know, you actually look at some of 270 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 4: the billing patterns, you see this happening in particularly in 271 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: blue states and blue cities all across the country. So 272 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: we're saying here as a systematic problem, one that's not 273 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 4: just Samawi. You know, this pamphlet Samoi America focuses on 274 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: the concentration of fraud, violence, terror in Samawi communities in 275 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: Minnesota and Maine and some other places. But this is 276 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: really a nationwide problem that is caused by uncontrolled mass 277 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: migration from places that are just systematically fraudulent. 278 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: Dana Greenfield is the CEO of David Horror Stream Center 279 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: and Abundance of Knowledge. As you can tell, follow him 280 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: on x at Sultan Kaneshi's new pamphlet Small America The 281 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: Rise of smally, fraud, crime and Terror in America. Daniel, 282 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: what are for me personally? Daniel, I'm I'm I'm a 283 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: big immigration guy. I love immigration to meet. Immigration is 284 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: the most important issue in all politics. 285 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: Really. 286 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: I think I would go so far as say, because 287 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: it's one issue that affects everything, literally everything up to 288 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: and including the most foundational questions in all politics, who 289 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: we are as a people. There's a lot to be 290 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: said about this scandal and related scandals as Pakistani scandal, 291 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: as you correctly know in New York. There's a lot 292 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: of you said as well about the problems of the 293 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: welfare state model as it has existed at least since 294 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties and the LBJ Great Society. So what 295 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: are your big substantive takeaways. You're kind of zooming out 296 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: a little bit here. Is is this primarily an immigration issues, 297 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: primarily a welfare state issue, or some combination thereof the collision. 298 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: Of the immovable object, the imovable welfare state, and the 299 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: unstoppable immigration wave. That's all we've got going on there. 300 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 4: We already have a ridiculous welfare state. Not as bad 301 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: as Europe, which of course is ground zero for this 302 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 4: kind of mass migration, we have a bad one. We 303 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 4: have massive amounts of fraud in that welfare state. And 304 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: I've reported on welfare fraud and all sorts of benefits fraud. 305 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: That's not just limited to immigration. You know, we have 306 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: massive domestic welfare fraud, especially when it comes to things 307 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 4: like disability, which is completely out of control. But on 308 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: top of that, then we have people coming from other 309 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: societies where there's no reason for them not to commit 310 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 4: fraud as far as they're concerned. You know, you're coming 311 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: out of somehow, you're coming out of China's cases, you're 312 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: coming out of Pakistan. You have no investment in America. 313 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 4: It's like the metaphor of the take a penny, leave 314 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 4: a penny jar. If you see yourself as part of 315 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: the community, then you leave a penny. If you see 316 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: have no skin in the game, you just take all 317 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: the pennies. And that's what they're doing. They're taking all 318 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 4: the pennies. The Samalis came to Minneapolis, and they saw 319 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: no reason not to take all the pennies because the 320 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 4: pennies are just there, why not take them? This is 321 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: really the larger problem. When we don't have a common ethos, 322 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: we don't have a common set of moral principles, then 323 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 4: we bring in people who don't share these principles and 324 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 4: who have a completely contrary set of principles. You're asking 325 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 4: for complete financial armorgeddon, which is what we're seeing now. 326 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: How did all these Somalis first get to Minnesota, Daniel, 327 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: what's the actual story there? I assume that this is 328 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: in the aftermath of Black Hawk Down, early nineteen nineties. 329 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: What's the story there if you're familiar with it? 330 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: So the whole thing actually began with fraud. Unsurprisingly enough, 331 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: few people actually know the real story of Black Hawk Down. 332 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: They may have seen the movie, they may have written 333 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 4: a book or two. Bottom line is you had a 334 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: Samali dictator was associated with certain clients, including elan Omar's Klan, 335 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: who was out of power at that point. There was 336 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: now a clan civil war. Some of the people associated 337 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: with some of the ruining clans, including ilan Omar's family, 338 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 4: for to the United States, where they began claiming there 339 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: was genocide. This should be familiar. They also began claiming 340 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 4: there was a fake famine, and the UN joined them. 341 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: This was again same brueprint we've seen in Gaza, same 342 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: blueprint we saw before that in Yemen and in Afghanistan 343 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 4: and Syria. Fake famine, fake claims of genocide. This is systemic. 344 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: Now there was actually no famine at all. We know 345 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 4: this was a lie, and there was certainly not a 346 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: famine in Mogadishi, which is where we sent troops to intervene. 347 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 4: This was a project that came out of actually the 348 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 4: Senator for Me, which was an early ground zero for 349 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: semi migration to the country and the first bush Forshe 350 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 4: let himself be pushed into doing this. We sent in troops, 351 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 4: were just supposed to be there to protect humanitarian aid. 352 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 4: Of course, we were actually playing second Banana to the Pakistanis, 353 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 4: who got us into a firefight with some of the factions. 354 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: Al Kaieda was on the ground already and we lost 355 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 4: a bunch of people, more than actually realized. Because Americans 356 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: kept dying even after the Battle of Mogadishi. Even after 357 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 4: the events in black Hawk Down, we actually had Americans 358 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 4: dying in the previous decade doing peacekeeping over there. Now, 359 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: all this was based first of all on fraud, and 360 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 4: then Samai migration was also based on fraud. We know 361 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 4: it was based on fraud because the moment they started 362 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: doing DNA testing for family relationships, suddenly all these people 363 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 4: refused to constribute to their DNA or even show protesting. 364 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: So delon Omar's marrying her brother or whatever was going 365 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: on there, that was not unusual. This was systemic. It 366 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 4: was so systemic we actually paused Samaoui family reunification back 367 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 4: in the day. 368 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: Dan Greenfield is the CEO of David Horror stream Center. 369 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: Check out his writings and many in my own writings 370 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: at from Page Magazines at from Pagemagnet dot com. Daniel 371 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: Clemens lotiro Before I let you go, I want to 372 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: get your take on this Board of Peace rollout that 373 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: happened earlier today in Washington, DC. In theory sounds great, 374 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: as do a lot of these more internationally inclined organizations, 375 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: and certainly Donald Trump has earned the benefit of the 376 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: doubt overall when it comes to his his stewardship of 377 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: the Middle East, perhaps in particular Daniel. Nonetheless, I found 378 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: myself very skeptical. I assume that you probably feel pretty similarly. 379 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: We've tried international organizations before, we had the League of Nations, 380 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 4: we had the UN. This is supposed to be a 381 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 4: kind of replacement for the UN. But if you want 382 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: to replace the UN, don't make the same mistakes over again. 383 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 4: The UN actually was functional until the point where we 384 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: led in every single Third world dictatorship and communist on 385 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 4: nation into it. If you can have a Board of 386 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: peace that includes Islamic terrorist states like Turkey uy Qatar, 387 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: then that's a dead end. Then you're just replicating the 388 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 4: same failed model of the UN. And there's no point 389 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 4: in replacing the UN with just another version of the 390 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: UN that we're still funding. 391 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: For sure, And that is one of the objections that 392 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm starting to hear. And look, it's a lot of 393 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: pomp and circumstances, it's a lot of feel good handholding, 394 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: a lot of welcoming in here and and nice talk, 395 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: but ultimately nice words ultimately have to meet the very 396 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: hard reality of effective and prophylactic deeds, and especially when 397 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: it comes to a place like Gaza that certainly could 398 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: prove to be a lot more difficult think than folks 399 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: in DC. 400 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: See it well. 401 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: One final time, folks, Daniel Greenfield is the CEO of 402 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: David Horwitz Froom Center. Check him out on x at 403 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: Sultan kin Ish. She's writings appear as much of my 404 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: own at Front Page Magazine. From Page mag dot com. Daniel, 405 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: really appreciate you something by today. Hopefully you'll jonas again 406 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: in the near future. 407 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: It would be my pleasure. 408 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, you bet. 409 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: Coming off after the break, folks, much more on international front. 410 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: What's happening in Cuba? Is Cuba actually going to be 411 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: the next domino to drop when it comes to Donald 412 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: Trump's foreign policy? Stay with us folk, It's a very 413 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: very fascinating update when it comes to Mark Rubio and 414 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: the island just off Floria's coast. 415 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this break. Welcome back. 416 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: Some other notes on the broader Middle East conversation that 417 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: I want to talk about, Mark Rubio and Cuba, an 418 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: issue that's probably not on your radar, but it really 419 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: ought to be so. Yesterday, as we discused briefly on 420 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: yesterday's show, Tucker Carlson, the leading propagandist and leading anti 421 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: senlite unfortunately point on the broader American right and man 422 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: that I was personally a huge fan of for a 423 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: very very long time as a former guest on his show, 424 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But the guy is just completely 425 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: sold out, completely off the rails at this point. There 426 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: we discussed briefly essay how he basically swooped in literally 427 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: to the airport. He swooped into the international airport outside 428 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: Tel Aviv in Israel, didn't even leave the airport. All 429 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: of this because of an interview that he was doing 430 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: with Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas, who is 431 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: now the US Ambassador to Israel, and stuff really went 432 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: off the rails, according to The Daily Mail, at least 433 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: after this interview happened. So again, I can't emphasize this 434 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: point enough. Tucker Carlson, who has been spewing vicious, vicious 435 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: lies about Israel for years, for years now on his 436 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: show really since October seven, twenty twenty three, happened, and 437 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: the horrific aftermath of that, he was invited by all 438 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: sorts of christ leaders in Israel. They said why don't 439 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: you come see the Holy site? See this, See how 440 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: how we're the only country where the Christian population Middle 441 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: East actually growing. It is not in danger that they 442 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: are in Egypt or Nigeria, plenty of other places across 443 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: the broader Muslim world. And Tucker said no, he refuse 444 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: to actually leave the airport. So after that the Daily Mail, 445 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: specifically a reporter by the name of Philip Nietto, ran 446 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: this scurless libelist story, libelist story where they said that 447 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson was detained all caps detained at the airport 448 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: and they seized his passport. He was subject to intense interrogation. 449 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: And as it turns out, the Daily Mail ends up 450 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: ultimately I guess the editors came in or came in 451 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: over the top, ends up issuing a correction and semi retraction, 452 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: not a full retraction, and Bastarakabi himself clarifying that nothing 453 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: like this happened. So according to Daily Mail, according to 454 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: their addendum quote, a spokesperson for the US Embassy in 455 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: Israel denied that Carlson was attained and claimed that he 456 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: quote received the same passport control questions that countless visitors 457 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: to Israel, including Ambassador Huckabee and other diplomats received as 458 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: part of normal entrance and exit. It is not accurate 459 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: that Israel only was going to let Tucker into the 460 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: country for the interview. The only engagement the embassy had 461 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: about his visit was to coordinate his private plane landing 462 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: as part of facilitating a seamless visit. It was Tucker 463 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: who chose to only come into the country for a 464 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: few hours and depart. And long story story, a Tuck 465 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: Carlson basically made this up. He basically used this guy, 466 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: Philip Nietto, a Daily Mail writer who, oh, by the way, 467 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: is a former Tucker Carlson stafferde was a Forign producer 468 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: on The Tucker Show. 469 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: Hmm. 470 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: So Tucker is planting these stories with his former employee 471 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 1: now ranking with the Daily Mail about how he was detained 472 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: and he was interrogated. So the Daily Mail not exactly 473 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: covering itself in glory here on this one put a 474 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: mile to the Frankly this this reporter Filmniento probably should 475 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: lose his job over this one. It turns out also 476 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: that this story we briefly lude to on yesterday's show 477 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: about how Donald Trump allegedly got involved here to try 478 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: to have this rough prochemont between Tucker Carlson and Proe 479 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: Israel folks. This story was planted in the Jerusalem Post. 480 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: There was a former Fox News and Fox Business anchor 481 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: who was allegedly involved in trying to broker this truce. 482 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: At this point we can safely say that it seems 483 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: like that is also not exactly true. Tucker likely planted 484 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: that story as well, again all just trying to make 485 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: himself seem like the victim and trying to glorify his 486 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: status there as a king maker on the right. So 487 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: I would imagine for the next week or two Tucker 488 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: will probably use his gigantic platform to rail about how 489 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: he was detained. But at this point, is he really 490 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: is he really any different than a Nom Chomsky? It's 491 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: really any different than a Greta Thurnberg? 492 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 493 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 3: Dude? 494 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 2: Like, literally, what are you doing? 495 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: It's just really, really, really sad, And this is just 496 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: a ridiculous information operation. 497 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: It's a hoax. It very much is a hoax. 498 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: Well, another international news as I mentioned that Cuba is 499 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: actually back in the news here, So Mark Rubio is 500 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: Cuban by background. You may or may not have heard 501 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: of that Mark Rubio came to po local prominence in 502 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: South Florida, not too far from where I live. He 503 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: was on the City Council of West Miami by the 504 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: time that he was in his mid twenties. Shortly after 505 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: law school, he rose to the heights of the Florida 506 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: State Legislature as the Speaker of the House, and then 507 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: he was the US Senator from Florida for multiple terms 508 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: before taking the role that he has now of US 509 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: Secretary of State. And because of his background as a 510 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: son of Cuban refugees and someone who came to prominence 511 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: in Florida, Mark Rubio cares a lot about the Cuba issue. 512 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: As someone who lives in South Florida, the Cuba issue 513 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: is a huge, huge issue here. I cannot possibly emphasize 514 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: enough the extent to which the Cuban diaspora community here 515 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: in the broader Miami area utterly despises and reviles the 516 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: Castro regime. The Chavez Maduro regime in Venezuela probably the 517 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: single closest ally in all of Laine America to the 518 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: Cuban regime. When Maduro was extracted there about a month 519 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: and a half agoing early January, you could basically go 520 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: out to any random street in Miami and see fireworks 521 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: going off and Latin music being played. It was just 522 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: a total, a total party, a large grandios fiesta, he 523 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: might say. 524 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 5: So. 525 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: The update when it comes to Cuba, which has been 526 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: on the radar now for t administration for some time, 527 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: under the radar, it's not getting a. 528 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: Whole lot of press. 529 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: Rubio has apparently been holding secret talks with the grandson 530 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: of Raoul Castro, who is ninety four years old. He 531 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: is the brother of Fidel Castro. Now technically speaking, he's 532 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: not the nominal quote unquote head of Cuba. Cuba has 533 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: a younger guy, Miguel Diaz Canal Bermudez, who is the 534 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: quote unquote president, but the actual power structure in Havana 535 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: to this day is in the Castro family. Failed Castro 536 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: died about nine to ten years ago at this point, 537 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: and Rollal Castro has been the de facto communist leader 538 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: since then. So Mark Rubio has been in clandestine talks 539 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: with the grandson of Rol Castro, who apparently is skeptical, 540 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: as are many young Cubans, of this horrific command to 541 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: control economy brutally totalitarian, brutally repressive regime in Cuba, a regime. 542 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: That I saw with my own eyes. 543 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: By the way, I actually was in Cuba myself about 544 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: seven years ago, now, my first time and probably my 545 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: only time really seeing authentic communism in the flesh. I 546 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: cannot describe to you just how crazy this experience was. 547 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: So you get to the airport in Havana, you leave 548 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: in when those old school cars that they have there, 549 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: and the very first thing you see is this billboard. 550 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: And the billboard is these hands that are in handcuffs 551 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: together and the risks are dripping blood. And the blood 552 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: is in the American flag. It's the red, white and 553 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: blue the star and stripes of the Marian flag. And 554 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: it says in Spanish in bargadero embargo, bloodiest genocide in 555 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: human history. That's your welcome to Cuba moment. When you 556 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: land at the airport in Havana. Then you go to Havana, 557 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: you see all the propaganda social sl foot through socialism 558 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: is the future, Viva the revolution, long lived revolution. It's 559 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: propaganda likes which I've never seen my entire life. And 560 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: Rubio is now increasingly trying to work with people on 561 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: the inside for some sort of transition very similar actually 562 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: to what happened in Venezuela, where we establish connection many 563 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: months prior to the Maduro operation with Delsi Rodriguez, who 564 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: is the addedly still socialist, still communist sympathetic leader of Venezuela. 565 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: She has plenty of her own issues there, but at 566 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: least to an extent, she's mildly better, mildly better than 567 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: the Chavez and Maduro leaders who precede her. So how 568 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: does this actually play out when it comes to Cuba 569 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: and what is the actual US end goal? Well, it's 570 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: very hard to say, but what I will say is 571 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: this this all ties into the current trumpminstration's approach to 572 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: the Western Hemisphere. We've talked much on this show about 573 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: the Trump correlate to the Monroe Doctrine. So in the 574 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: National Security Strategy, this formal thirty to forty page document 575 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: that the White House unleashed back in early December, they 576 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: actually have a paragraph here that says this quote, after 577 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: years of neglect, the United States will reassert and force 578 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: the Monroe Doctrine to restore American pre eminence in the 579 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: Western Hemisphere and to protect our homeland and our access 580 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: to key geographies throughout the region. We will deny non 581 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: hemispheric competitors like China the ability to position forces or 582 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: other threatening capabilities, or to own or control strategically vital 583 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: assets in our hemisphere. The Trump corrollary to the mun 584 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: doctrine is a common sense and potent restoration of American 585 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: power and priorities consistent with American security interest. Folks, if 586 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna get involved in this very thorny business of 587 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: regime maintenance indoor regime change, you could do a lot 588 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: worse than start with Cuba, a regime that has been 589 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: a form the side of the United States for six 590 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: and a half freaking decades now, that is located ninety 591 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: miles off our shore. I don't know exactly what's gonna 592 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: happen here, but I really really look forward to how 593 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: this plays out. Rubio has his eyes in this one, 594 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: and do not discount Rubio's chances of pulling off a heist. 595 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 1: His track record thus far is very very good on 596 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: this front. Look, regime change is a very fraught term 597 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: in modern American political discourse. But one thing that we've 598 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: been saying for months now is that in theory it's 599 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: not necessarily a toxic term. In theory, it should be obvious, 600 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: it should be intuitive that there are some regimes, there 601 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: are some governments that act in a way that were 602 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: downs to the American national interests, and there are some 603 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: regimes or some governments that act in a way that 604 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: are against our interests. It's really not a particularly complicated 605 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: or even novel concept where you have your regime like 606 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: Cuba that is so close to us, and is so 607 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: close as well on the international stage to Russia and 608 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: China and the worst actors that hate America. Just this week, actually, 609 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: the Cuban four Minister was in Moscow meeting with Sergei Lavrev, 610 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: the four Minister of Russia, as well as the King 611 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: pit himself, Lamerpudim Russia doubling down on support for Cuba 612 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: as they currently have terrible food scarcity and power and 613 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: electricity seorges home there, Russia standing by their longtime vestigial 614 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: Cold War ally Cuba. 615 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: Cuba also a. 616 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: Place report the Wall Street Journal, as recently as a 617 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, has increasingly a facility for Chinese 618 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: spying and spycraft into South Florida and by extension, if 619 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: they have the technology to permit it into the broader 620 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: American homeland. This is not necessarily an abstract debate about 621 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: regime change somewhere in the middle of Africa or the 622 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: middle of Asia. Reasonable minds can differ about the situation 623 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: in Iran. Our own two cents is that President Trump 624 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: has really boxed himself in here when it comes to action, 625 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: and again to reiterate when we expect kinetic action here 626 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: at some point, sooner rather than later. But at this point, 627 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 1: given Donald Trump's aggressiveness on the world stage, I'm not 628 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: entirely sure that I see a compelling case against trying 629 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: to do something in Cuba. The big question is what 630 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: exactly is that something. And I says infamously attempted the 631 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: Bay of Pigs invasion back during the Kennedy presidency in 632 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties, a few years after the cast Or 633 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: regime took over to put a mildly Bay of Pigs 634 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: did not end particularly success. So maybe that's not the 635 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: best path forward. But but, but perhaps the Maduro operation 636 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: has some sort of presidential effect here when it comes 637 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: to how cubushould go. In any event, As I was 638 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: saying before the break, I personally trust Marco Rupia when 639 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: it comes to the Cuba portfolio. Dude has literally eden 640 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: lived and breathed the Cuba portfolio for gosh, man, I 641 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: mean essentially longer than I've been alive. So we'll see 642 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: what happens on that front. In other news here on 643 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: the domestic front, Black History Month is this month here 644 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: in February. 645 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: Don't worry, We're not going woke. 646 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: We're not necessarily here to talk about talk about the 647 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: excesses of capital b Black History Month. 648 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 5: We're not. 649 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: We're not gonna talk about Saint George Floyd or great 650 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: martyr or we're not gonna get into absolute radicals like 651 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: like Soaklely Carmichael or Malcolm X or things like that. 652 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: But we will say that. 653 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: Earlier this week, Donald Trump did did host a Black 654 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: History Month celebration at the White House, and there was 655 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: a Washington, d c. Grandmother or a black one by 656 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: the name of for Lizia Cook, whose grandson was killed 657 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: in a terrible shooting in the year twenty seventeen. She 658 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: really kind of just tole the show at this Black 659 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: History Month presser at the White House earlier this month. 660 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: Le's let's go ahead and watch this clip of miss cook. 661 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 5: I like her, please, I like him too. One thing 662 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 5: I like about him he keeps it real, just like Grandma. 663 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 5: I appreciate that because I can trust him, because he 664 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 5: tells exactly how you feel and what he thinks. Thank 665 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 5: God for this president. I am peeled my cup runners 666 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 5: over because he allowed his constituents, his people to come 667 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 5: to my house to interview me, to talk about the 668 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 5: murder of my grandson. It seem like nobody can I'm 669 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 5: an advocate for murder. 670 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm I rallied. 671 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 5: I pulled out other families in the district of Columbia. 672 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 5: They had murders and did not have answers. Who will marshall? 673 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: We rally and nobody heard me. 674 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 5: Democrats get mad and me until this Republican, seeing his 675 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 5: constituency his people out there to interview me in my home. 676 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 5: Have you ever heard of a thing? Then they invited 677 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 5: me twice before Congress to testify for the beautiful bill 678 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 5: that's gonna change crime in the district. If you killed somebody, okay, 679 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 5: you'll take a life, You'll. 680 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: Do life, all right, So you can see why for 681 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: Leezia Cooks told the show at the White House order 682 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: this week. She is certainly a big personality, suffered an 683 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: indescribable horrific loss in the murder of her grandson in 684 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: Washington C. 685 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 2: Nine years ago. 686 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: Crime in Washington C is at this point precipitously plummeting. 687 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: So in the year five, violent crime in Washington C 688 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: was down thirty two percent on an annual basis. Similarly, 689 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: in Baltimore nearby crime down thirty one percent, in Chicago 690 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: down twenty nine percent, Los Angeles down nineteen percent, and 691 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: on and on we go Tampa, Florida. Here in Florida 692 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: where I live, Tampa down fifty three percent. That's really 693 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: quite remarkable stuff. So there's a broader national trend here, 694 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: but especially in Washington DC. A lot of this debate 695 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: goes back to Donald Trump sending in the National Guard. 696 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: It's a very controversial decision when Donald Trump ordered the 697 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 1: National Guard to go into Washington d C. We saw 698 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: this play out in tragic fashion actually on the eve 699 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: of Thanksgiving, where one of Joe Biden's infamous Afghan refugees 700 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: decided to go ahead and murdering cold blood a West 701 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: Virginia National Guards women. May her memory be a blessing 702 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: but it's really seems like the National Guard has had 703 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: a prophylactic effect when it comes to crime. Crime is 704 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: going down in the month of January, so last month, 705 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm mistaken with I believe it's only one officially 706 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: recorded homicide, which is the lowest monthly total in. 707 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: Decades in Washington, d C. 708 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump does not get nearly nearly enough credit for this, 709 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: not even close. 710 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: Overall. 711 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: I was listening a bunch of these cities there, Tampa, Philadelphia, 712 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it goes on and on here, Chicago, when 713 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: the murder capital of America. Overall, the national homicide rate 714 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: is at its lowest, as we said before, since nineteen hundred, 715 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: the McKinley administration. In any normal world, this DOJ led 716 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: by Pambondi, this FBI led by Cash Patel, all of 717 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: these law enforcement bureaus and apparatuses, they would be feeded 718 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: with praise for overseasing this incredible, remarkable, historic increase in 719 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: Americans physical safety and by extension, in the general quality 720 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: of their day to day lives. The only reason, frankly, 721 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: that that is not happening, and the only reason that 722 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: we are that we are not paying attention to this 723 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: dramatic decrease in homicides is because people just can't let 724 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: go of this, of this Epstein story. It is the 725 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: gift that keeps on giving for Rokahana Democrats and their 726 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: useful idiot allies on the quote unquote right, people like 727 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: Thomas Massey and the disgraced former Congresswoman Martin Taylor Green. 728 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: They just keep on hitting and hitting and hitting this story. 729 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: And at this point, what is the intended goal? There 730 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: are statute of limitations on all of these crimes. There's 731 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: not going to be a major list at this point. 732 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: That should be pretty obvious after three plus million documents 733 00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: that were just released. 734 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 2: I just don't get it. 735 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,760 Speaker 1: Part of this is definitely an attempt to get Trump, 736 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: but even that fails on its face. For instance, former 737 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew over in the UK. We're not necessarily huge 738 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: on the royal family gossip here on this show, but 739 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: he was just arrested. He was arrested this morning on 740 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: Thursday on suspicion of misconduct wall in office, following weeks 741 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: of revelations over his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, which was 742 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: very well known for years. Do you know who once 743 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: called out Prince Andrew. Oh yeah, this was literally back 744 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, eleven years ago for his Epstein's ties. 745 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was Donald Trump. Go ahead and watch this. 746 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,959 Speaker 1: You raised the question of Jeffrey Epstein in your remarks. 747 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 5: Event and Q and A. 748 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 3: You've got a problem. 749 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 5: Think the problem, will? 750 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, but that island was really a cesspool. 751 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 3: There's no question about it. Just ask Prince Andrew. Well, 752 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 3: he'll tell you about it. 753 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 2: All right. So you got again Trump proven right? 754 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: Can we just get a little less obsession with the 755 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: Epstein hoax and a little more folks on the actual 756 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: day to day law enforcement things that matter to our lives. 757 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: I think that this adminstration there's a lot of credit 758 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: for this historic decrease in homicides in America. I'm pretty 759 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: sure that you would agree with that. 760 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: There. 761 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: Ask yourself why the media, including many on the useful 762 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: idiot rites, are so obsessed with the Epstein story. You 763 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: guys are missing the forest for the trees. We're not 764 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: doing that here on the Joshammers. 765 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 2: So though, are we? Folks? Have a great rest for evening. 766 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 2: We'll be right back tomorrow with another episode of The Joshammers.