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<v Speaker 1>The voice of free speech. The truth delivered. Common sense for.

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<v Speaker 2>The American people.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 2>The Supreme Court has handed President Trump a victory in

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<v Speaker 2>his push to strengthen mail-in ballot rules. The justices lifted

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<v Speaker 2>one court order blocking his plan, but a separate injunction

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<v Speaker 2>still prevents the Postal Service from implementing the changes. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be tracking that story. Canada striking back in its escalating

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<v Speaker 2>trade fight with the United States. Details ahead. And Republican

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<v Speaker 2>voters in South Carolina choosing their Senate nominee today. Listen

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<v Speaker 2>to their closing arguments in just a moment. It is Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>August the 25th. I'm Scott Jennings, broadcasting for Salem, coming

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<v Speaker 2>to you live today from Pinehurst, North Carolina. On this day, 1944,

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<v Speaker 2>for four years, the Nazi flag had flown over Paris.

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<v Speaker 2>Adolf Hitler had even toured the conquered city. German soldiers

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<v Speaker 2>had marched beneath the Arc de Triomphe. French Jews had

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<v Speaker 2>been rounded up and deported. Millions of Parisians had endured occupation, hunger,

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<v Speaker 2>and fear. But following the Allied invasion at Normandy, the

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<v Speaker 2>German army was in retreat, and the French resistance rose

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<v Speaker 2>up inside the capital. Barricades appeared in the streets. Police

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<v Speaker 2>officers seized their own headquarters. And as German troops fought

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<v Speaker 2>to maintain control, Hitler issued a monstrous order. Paris was

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<v Speaker 2>not to fall into Allied hands except as a field

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<v Speaker 2>of ruins. But the order to destroy the bridges and

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<v Speaker 2>landmarks was never carried out. On the night of August 24th,

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<v Speaker 2>General Philippe Leclerc's French 2nd Armored Division reached Paris and

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<v Speaker 2>the bells of Notre Dame began to ring. The following day,

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<v Speaker 2>French tanks and American troops poured into the city. The

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<v Speaker 2>German military governor surrendered, and after 1,500 days of occupation,

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<v Speaker 2>Paris was free. That evening, General Charles de Gaulle stood

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<v Speaker 2>before a jubilant crowd at the Hotel de Ville. Paris outraged.

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<v Speaker 2>Paris broken. Paris martyred. But Paris liberated. Here's that moment

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<v Speaker 2>in time. Cut ten. And the next day, de Gaulle

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<v Speaker 2>walked triumphantly down the Champs-Élysées through an ocean of cheering

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<v Speaker 2>French citizens. The city of light had survived Hitler's darkness,

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<v Speaker 2>and nine months later, the Nazis surrendered, bringing an end

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<v Speaker 2>to the war in Europe. Paris, liberated on this day,

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<v Speaker 2>August 25th, 1944. Other news, moment of truth for the

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans in South Carolina, where two candidates appear on today's

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<v Speaker 2>runoff ballot to replace the late Senator Lindsey Graham in

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<v Speaker 2>the general election. In one corner, Lindsey Graham's sister, Darlene.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's her closing message. Cut 11.

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<v Speaker 3>Ralph Norman says he stands with President Trump, but when

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<v Speaker 3>it's mattered most, Norman stood in his way. Norman said

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<v Speaker 3>Social Security needed to be cut. He publicly supported amnesty

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<v Speaker 3>for illegal aliens, and he held out against President Trump's

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<v Speaker 3>one big beautiful bill. President Trump and Senator Darlene Graham

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<v Speaker 3>will keep our border secure, protect Social Security, and always

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<v Speaker 3>put America first.

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph Norman, he's turned his back on that agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit of a negative ad from Darlene Graham.

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<v Speaker 2>In the other corner is Congressman Ralph Norman. You heard

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<v Speaker 2>his name there. Here's an ad running from a super

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<v Speaker 2>PAC supporting Norman cut 12.

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<v Speaker 4>What if Darlene Graham had any other last name? Do

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<v Speaker 4>we really know where she stands? Darlene won't tell us.

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<v Speaker 4>Ralph Norman has a proven conservative record securing our elections,

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<v Speaker 4>cracking down on illegals, taking on corruption. That's why the

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<v Speaker 4>DC establishment is spending millions to stop him. The swamp

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<v Speaker 4>wants a puppet. South Carolina needs a fighter. Proven conservative

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<v Speaker 4>Ralph Norman. Palmetto First Pack is responsible for the content

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<v Speaker 4>of this advertising.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting a little chippy in the Palmetto State. Graham, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>has the endorsement of President Trump, and she's got most

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<v Speaker 2>of the money. In fact, Trump's political apparatus has spent

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<v Speaker 2>heavily for Graham in the closing days of this campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>She has the entire D.C. establishment behind her. Norman seems

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<v Speaker 2>to have the conservative grassroots momentum. Latest polling shows a

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<v Speaker 2>near-dead heat. It is not clear what is going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen tonight. We'll track the returns and have those for

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<v Speaker 2>you on tomorrow's show. Another Senate race making news today.

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<v Speaker 2>We return to Michigan where Democrat Abdul El-Sayed chose to

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<v Speaker 2>do an interview on Fox News last night with Jesse Waters.

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<v Speaker 2>Suffice to say, it got a little weird. Waters asked

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<v Speaker 2>El-Sayed about his support for transgender surgeries for children. And, well,

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<v Speaker 2>El-Sayed took it in a strange direction. Listen for yourself

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<v Speaker 2>to this exchange. Cut six. So, Abdul, you're a doctor, right?

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<v Speaker 4>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think it's okay for a parent to slash his.

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<v Speaker 1>Kid's thing off? You think that's okay? I mean, do

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to have this conversation? Are you circumcised?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but I mean, that's a personal question, doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>So you probably should want to move on. You probably

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<v Speaker 1>should want to move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Is circumcision different than castration?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a problem that you think that you get to

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<v Speaker 5>decide what happens between a doctor and a patient. And

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just saying that, yes, circumcision is surgery on a

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<v Speaker 5>kid's ding-a-ling.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you really want to bring that up, you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think you guys are really selective about how

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Abdul?

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan's not going for that. That is sick stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of back and forth on a number of issues

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<v Speaker 2>between El-Sayed and Waters last night. Maybe we'll have time

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<v Speaker 2>to bring you a few more clips of that throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the show. We'll see. Speaking of Michigan, the folks up

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<v Speaker 2>there sure to be interested in the emerging trade war

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<v Speaker 2>between the United States and Canada. News today is that

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<v Speaker 2>Canada is retaliating against President Trump's 50% tariffs, announcing their

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<v Speaker 2>own duties of on nearly $ 20 billion in American goods.

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<v Speaker 2>Beginning September 8th, Canadian tariffs of up to 50% will

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<v Speaker 2>hit more than 700 products. Steel, electronics, appliances, furniture, cheese,

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<v Speaker 2>and other things. Prime Minister Mark Carney says Canada must

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<v Speaker 2>protect its industries after trade negotiations collapsed last week. Trump

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<v Speaker 2>administration says Canada has taken advantage of American workers for years.

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<v Speaker 2>And the president this morning has threatened to rename Lake

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<v Speaker 2>Ontario to Lake America. We'll see if these two countries

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<v Speaker 2>can patch things up or if this lingers on. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure this will be the talk of the G20 finance

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<v Speaker 2>ministers when they gather in Asheville, North Carolina, this weekend

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<v Speaker 2>for a major meeting. You'll have the finance officials, economic leaders,

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<v Speaker 2>major CEOs gathering, over 1,000 people going to Asheville, and

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<v Speaker 2>at least 200 journalists from dozens of countries gathered. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>check in, by the way, on the state of Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 2>shall we? They're about to have the state fair in Minnesota. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the local sheriff is sending letters to Somali gangs, begging

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<v Speaker 2>them not to be violent at the fairgrounds. Listen to

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<v Speaker 2>all of this, please. Scott 13.

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<v Speaker 6>We've had gangs coming to the Minnesota State Fair for 30,

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<v Speaker 6>40 years. But they've always agreed the fair is neutral ground.

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<v Speaker 6>And let's all go have fun and respect the fairgrounds.

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<v Speaker 6>We've had Hell's Outcast, Hell's Angels here. The Hell's Outcast

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<v Speaker 6>used to hang by the pickle stand. I've been here

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<v Speaker 6>for many, many years. but we've never had threats of

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<v Speaker 6>violence like we're having from the Somali gangs. We will

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<v Speaker 6>have Karen gangs, we'll have some Hmong gangs here, we'll

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<v Speaker 6>have some extremists on the right here, but none of

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<v Speaker 6>them are promising chaos except for the Somali gangs. We

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<v Speaker 6>sent 233 letters to kids that we know have had

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<v Speaker 6>association with some of the other gang members, and really

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<v Speaker 6>it's a warning letter.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher, and, well, that's how

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<v Speaker 2>things are going up in Democrat-run Minnesota these days. Tim

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<v Speaker 2>Walls and the bunch up there, bang up job, ladies

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<v Speaker 2>and gentlemen. Iran news, more evidence the United States is

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<v Speaker 2>in full control of this situation. President Trump announced this

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<v Speaker 2>morning that the Navy has cleared all mines from the

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<v Speaker 2>Strait of Hormuz, says there's total surveillance from the sky

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<v Speaker 2>and a zero tolerance for any ships flying trying to

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<v Speaker 2>lay mines right now. It's more evidence the U.S. has

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<v Speaker 2>actually won this war. We just haven't formally announced it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oil markets reacting. Barrel of crude dropping pretty quickly today,

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<v Speaker 2>around 3.5% lower, in fact. Oh, by the way, this

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting. CIA Director John Ratcliffe made an unannounced visit

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<v Speaker 2>to Moscow today for meetings with Russian officials. It's his

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<v Speaker 2>first known trip to Russia since taking over the CIA

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<v Speaker 2>in the highest-level Trump administration visit to Moscow this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Neither the CIA nor the Kremlin revealing whom Ratcliffe met

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<v Speaker 2>It's Scott Jennings live from North Carolina. Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for some common sense and a little Kentucky windage?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Scott Jennings.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Tuesday, August the 25th. Broadcasting live from Pinehurst, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful Pinehurst today. A couple of pieces of video came

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<v Speaker 2>across the desk that I thought I would share with you.

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<v Speaker 2>First one comes from a journalist. named Emma Camp. She

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<v Speaker 2>works for the Free Press, but she's made an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>video for the Wall Street Journal expertly breaking down why

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<v Speaker 2>rent control does not work. I'm going to play this

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<v Speaker 2>thing in its entirety because everybody in my algorithm who

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<v Speaker 2>has seen it has said this may be the best

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<v Speaker 2>pushback against the Mamdani movement. forces that they've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear Emma Kant break down rent control being a

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<v Speaker 2>dumb idea. Cut 14.

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<v Speaker 7>Can rent control fix the housing crisis? No, it's time

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<v Speaker 7>for some Econ 101. Rent control sounds like a simple

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<v Speaker 7>enough idea. Housing is too expensive, so why don't we

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<v Speaker 7>stop landlords from charging so much money?

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<v Speaker 4>Yay!

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>The main reason why rents rise is that there aren't

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<v Speaker 7>enough housing units for the number of people who want

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<v Speaker 7>to live in a given city. With many people competing

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<v Speaker 7>for the same apartments, landlords rationally set rents at the

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<v Speaker 7>highest amount they think someone is willing to pay. Rent

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<v Speaker 7>control sets a ceiling on how much landlords can charge,

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<v Speaker 7>but it doesn't solve the underlying housing shortage. It actually

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<v Speaker 7>makes things worse because developers don't want to build new

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<v Speaker 7>units if they think they can be legally prohibited from

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<v Speaker 7>charging enough to earn back their investments. Almost half of

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<v Speaker 7>the rental apartments in New York are rent-regulated. About 50,000

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<v Speaker 7>of them stand empty, many of them because their landlords

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<v Speaker 7>can't charge enough to make up for the costs of

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<v Speaker 7>necessary repairs. So how do you lower rents?

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<v Speaker 1>Build more housing!

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<v Speaker 7>Cities like Austin, Denver, and Phoenix have recently seen a

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<v Speaker 7>huge increase in building and a decrease in rents. Lots

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<v Speaker 7>of people want to move to these cities, but the

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<v Speaker 7>housing supply can keep up, so landlords have to compete

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<v Speaker 7>with each other to attract new tenants, which they do

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<v Speaker 7>by lowering prices.

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<v Speaker 2>Emma Camp works for the Free Press, making videos for

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<v Speaker 2>the Wall Street Journal and explaining basic economic concepts in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that everybody understands. can understand. We hope to

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<v Speaker 2>see more from Emma Camp. Maybe we'll try to get

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<v Speaker 2>her on the show here. Also, as I mentioned, we're

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<v Speaker 2>broadcasting from North Carolina today, home of one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most watched Senate races in the country. Incumbent Senator Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Tillis is retiring, so now it's an open seat featuring

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<v Speaker 2>former Democrat Governor Roy Cooper versus the Republican Michael Whatley.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember Mr.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatley?

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<v Speaker 2>He was chairman of the Republican National Committee. Now, Cooper

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<v Speaker 2>has been leading But a recent poll from High Point

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<v Speaker 2>University shows the race tightening. Now just five points separating

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<v Speaker 2>Whatley from Cooper. Whatley's never run for office. Cooper has

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<v Speaker 2>run many, many times. And today, today, we're breaking some

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<v Speaker 2>news here on the Scott Jennings Show. The Michael Whatley

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<v Speaker 2>campaign is about to go up with its first broadcast

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<v Speaker 2>TV ad of the general election. So this is a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal for a campaign when it finally goes on

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast television. And we have exclusively the new ad. Listen

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<v Speaker 2>to it here at Cut15.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Michael Wadley, and I've never run for office.

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<v Speaker 8>But Wadley's driven thousands of miles across North Carolina trying

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<v Speaker 8>to fix our country and help working families. While Wadley

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<v Speaker 8>was working, Roy Cooper was siding with the National Liberals.

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<v Speaker 8>Cooper backs higher taxes on tips and overtime and even

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<v Speaker 8>higher taxes on Social Security.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm running for Senate to cut taxes and make life

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<v Speaker 2>more affordable.

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<v Speaker 8>Michael Wadley will cut taxes for families and end the

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<v Speaker 8>tax on senior Social Security.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Michael Wadley, and I approve this message. Let's make

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<v Speaker 1>life more affordable.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you spend any time in North Carolina and

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<v Speaker 2>you turn on your TV, you're going to see a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ads flying from a lot of organizations. But

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<v Speaker 2>you can see the Whatley campaign getting heavily engaged here.

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<v Speaker 2>They also have support from the Republican super PAC called

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate Leadership Fund. And they are attacking Roy Cooper

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<v Speaker 2>on a crime issue. When Roy Cooper was governor, he

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<v Speaker 2>wound up letting a lot of people out of jail,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of violent people who went on to commit

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<v Speaker 2>further violent crimes after they were let out of jail.

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<v Speaker 2>So it seems to be a two-pronged attack from the

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<v Speaker 2>Whatley campaign and the overall campaign at large. One is

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<v Speaker 2>to destabilize Cooper's record as governor, showing him to be

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<v Speaker 2>soft on crime. And the other is to go add

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<v Speaker 2>an economic message on affordability, cutting taxes, and that's how

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to attack it here in North Carolina. This

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be one of the most expensive Senate

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<v Speaker 2>campaigns in the country. When you look at what the

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<v Speaker 2>candidates will do, what the parties and what the super

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<v Speaker 2>PACs will do, there are some people who think the

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<v Speaker 2>Senate campaign here in North Carolina could approach a billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars in overall spending. So big news today, though, is

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<v Speaker 2>that the Michael Watley for Senate campaign, and you've heard Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Watley come on the Scott Jennings Show here, great guy,

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<v Speaker 2>great candidate, Normal guy, never sought office before, has been

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<v Speaker 2>involved in politics, but he hasn't run for office. The

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<v Speaker 2>big news that we're breaking exclusively here on the show

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<v Speaker 2>is that his campaign is going up with its first

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast television ad of the general election. All right, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to take a break. When we come back, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to talk about data centers again. We talked a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about it yesterday with our friend Natalie Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>from the National Journal. Today, Lydia Moynihan from the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Post comes by. about pushing back against this mass

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<v Speaker 2>hysteria on data centers, and she's going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>why communities need them and why they create jobs and

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<v Speaker 2>quality of life for the communities in which they operate.

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<v Speaker 2>After this on The Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard the narratives. Now get the truth. It's The

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday, August the 25th. Common sense for the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>On the road today, Pinehurst, North Carolina is the location.

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<v Speaker 2>We're grateful for that. To the good people here in

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina for allowing us to get our show accomplished

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<v Speaker 2>from the road. I want to continue the conversation that

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<v Speaker 2>we started yesterday about data centers. We talked about some

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<v Speaker 2>of the polling on data centers yesterday. I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>up some research on this topic and came across an ex-post.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is why banned data centers is the tech policy

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<v Speaker 2>equivalent of defund the police. a luxury belief that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>actually serve lower income and working class communities. That post

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<v Speaker 2>written by my next guest, the financial correspondent of the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Post, Lydia Moynihan, star of newspapers and screen. Lydia,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome into the Scott Jennings Show. You've written a piece

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<v Speaker 2>pushing back against this anti-data center mass hysteria and from

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<v Speaker 2>the perspective that all the people who are fighting against

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<v Speaker 2>it are actually hurting working-class Americans. Welcome back in. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about your argument.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Scott.

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<v Speaker 9>So great to be with you here in the dark

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<v Speaker 9>days of summer. Yeah, so look, obviously there's so much

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<v Speaker 9>happening on the data center front, but one thing that

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<v Speaker 9>I kept coming across as I was looking into this

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<v Speaker 9>issue is the incredible benefit that it brings to the

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<v Speaker 9>community where it goes. And we hear these talkings head, say,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, data centers, it's destroying nature, all of these

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<v Speaker 9>crazy arguments, many of which are based on misinformation. So,

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<v Speaker 9>for instance, pistachios actually use three times as much water

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<v Speaker 9>as data centers. Data centers use less than 1% of

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<v Speaker 9>water right now in America. So, some of it's premised

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<v Speaker 9>on misinformation. And some of it is, I understand, not

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<v Speaker 9>wanting that in your backyard. But what's interesting is when

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<v Speaker 9>you speak with people and when you talk to leaders

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<v Speaker 9>in communities where these data centers have come, they have,

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<v Speaker 9>in some cases, completely revitalized Rust Belt states like Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 9>because they're creating so many jobs, people making $ 200, 000, $ 300, 000

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<v Speaker 9>or more building these out. So in that initial build-out,

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<v Speaker 9>you're seeing a lot of blue-collar workers, electricians, I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>making a killing for doing this. But then the long-term

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<v Speaker 9>impact is actually data centers are, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 9>trying to ingratiate themselves to these communities and offering something

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<v Speaker 9>in return. So in some cases, we're seeing this concept

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<v Speaker 9>of a data center dividend, where essentially these companies are

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<v Speaker 9>writing checks to to anybody who lives in the area.

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<v Speaker 9>In Louisiana, we're seeing teachers getting a $ 50, 000 bonus because, again,

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<v Speaker 9>there's so much revenue and profits that these towns now

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<v Speaker 9>have as a result of the data centers and trying

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<v Speaker 9>to figure out how to distribute it. And in Loudoun County,

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<v Speaker 9>taxes for the first time are being reduced. I think

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<v Speaker 9>40 taxes are down by about 30%. And so this

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<v Speaker 9>is This is a really nice problem for these towns

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<v Speaker 9>to have. And when you're hearing this sort of massive...

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<v Speaker 9>hysteria of Data centers are destroying everything. And even I

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<v Speaker 9>had somebody came up to me this weekend and say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 9>data centers are responsible for blackouts in Gary, Indiana.

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<v Speaker 10>And I was like, really?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, that's interesting. I looked into it. It turns out

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<v Speaker 9>there was actually a really horrible storm and they don't

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<v Speaker 9>even have data centers there. So I think data centers

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<v Speaker 9>are getting kind of blamed for everything. And the reality

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<v Speaker 9>is there's always cons. And again, I get it. I'm

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<v Speaker 9>not going to say that these are beautiful, elegant things.

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<v Speaker 9>I understand I'd rather live next to the beach than

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<v Speaker 9>a data center. Totally valid. But the question is, do

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<v Speaker 9>you want to be rich? And these towns, for the

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<v Speaker 9>first time, are seeing people getting paid, jobs returning. And

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<v Speaker 9>so that's the piece of this that you're really not...

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<v Speaker 9>And so, again, and we see this time and time again,

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<v Speaker 9>the boomers who are protesting or saying they're bad, well,

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<v Speaker 9>they don't need the money. They're going to be fine

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<v Speaker 9>without a data center.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and it's these small towns that you point out

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<v Speaker 2>that need them. What is their economic development plan beyond

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<v Speaker 2>embracing poverty? new technology and new industries. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to build another vape shop? Is that your economic

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<v Speaker 2>development plan? I mean, what is happening in your town

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<v Speaker 2>or in your community that is going to provide a

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<v Speaker 2>future to the kids who are coming up through your

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<v Speaker 2>school system there and they need something to do? Or

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to move away. And these data centers provide jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>They provide jobs both on the technology side, but also

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<v Speaker 2>on the construction side. I mean, electricians and contractors and

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<v Speaker 2>everything else And so they actually do provide some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of an economic development pathway for a lot of areas

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<v Speaker 2>that don't really have one. I'm also sort of amused, Lydia,

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<v Speaker 2>at all the people who are going on social media

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<v Speaker 2>to get their message out about the data centers. And

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<v Speaker 2>they're railing against these data centers as they type in

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<v Speaker 2>the comments on their– Social media pages that are powered

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<v Speaker 2>by data centers and AI and sort of these things

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<v Speaker 2>that have become integrated into their daily life, they're railing

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<v Speaker 2>against the actual technology that makes all of that possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think Americans– let me ask you this. You've

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<v Speaker 2>done a lot of reporting on this. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>Americans have a good understanding of what AI is and

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<v Speaker 2>how they use it in their everyday life or you

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<v Speaker 2>think they don't quite make the connection yet?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it's so different. I think there's always early

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<v Speaker 9>adopters and late adopters, but a lot of existing data centers,

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<v Speaker 9>and that's why we have research about, you know, the

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<v Speaker 9>past 10 years with the impact in Virginia and Loudoun

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<v Speaker 9>County where there's been a lot of data centers. We

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<v Speaker 9>need a lot of them for AI, but we've also

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<v Speaker 9>been using them, yeah, anytime you post on the Internet.

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<v Speaker 9>We use them for all kinds of things. And so, again,

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<v Speaker 9>it's kind of this stage one thinking of you suddenly

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<v Speaker 9>don't like a data center. Well, okay, if you're going

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<v Speaker 9>to be opposed to that, yeah, then you should stop

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<v Speaker 9>using posting on the interwebs. Stop Googling. Stop using all

0:22:50.460 --> 0:22:53.440
<v Speaker 9>of these tools because we need a place for them

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<v Speaker 9>to go. And of course, the challenge here is that

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<v Speaker 9>China is moving full steam ahead. There's no protests there.

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<v Speaker 9>I do want to acknowledge because, again, I don't want

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<v Speaker 9>to dismiss frustrations or worries that people may have with

0:23:10.410 --> 0:23:13.699
<v Speaker 9>the data centers. But what we're seeing is that it's

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<v Speaker 9>incredibly amplified by some NGOs and some causes that stand

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<v Speaker 9>to benefit if these data centers don't go in. So

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<v Speaker 9>Neville Royston, who's a far-left activist, he's funded Code Pink,

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<v Speaker 9>for instance. There's research that NGOs he's linked to have

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<v Speaker 9>put over $ 20 billion worth of data center building infrastructure

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<v Speaker 9>creation in the United States. And he's doing that because

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<v Speaker 9>he doesn't want the U.S. to win the AI war.

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<v Speaker 9>He doesn't want Americans to make more money. So you ask,

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<v Speaker 9>why are all of these foreign adversaries so interested in

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<v Speaker 9>us not moving forward with this? And that is, of course,

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<v Speaker 9>a huge concern. And I think we've seen this time

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<v Speaker 9>and time again where, again, people have questions. And that's

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<v Speaker 9>amplified by foreign adversaries who do not want to see

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<v Speaker 9>us win. And I will say, too— oh, I'm sorry, Scott.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've been speaking with a lot of Republican officials

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<v Speaker 2>and people in this space. There is an emerging view

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of the misinformation, propaganda, and the whipping

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<v Speaker 2>up of these arguments is absolutely a foreign propaganda operation.

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<v Speaker 2>It is foreign misinformation designed to turn us against each

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<v Speaker 2>other and designed to give China an advantage in this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing. Now, that doesn't mitigate the need for politicians

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<v Speaker 2>and for the companies to answer questions from residents. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>valid for people to have questions and get them answered.

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<v Speaker 2>But at some point, we have to start looking at

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<v Speaker 2>when we're having big conversations in America, whether it's about

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<v Speaker 2>data centers or AI or, I don't know, foreign policy,

0:24:50.859 --> 0:24:55.020
<v Speaker 2>the war in Gaza. We need to start looking into

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<v Speaker 2>how much information is being– and how much poison is

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<v Speaker 2>being injected into our national public affairs bloodstream by our enemies.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's obvious that it's a lot, and it is poison.

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<v Speaker 2>It's poisoning us. It's poisoning our public affairs, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people just don't know it. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>apart from the data center, AI, whatever conversation, that has

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<v Speaker 2>to be explored at some point when foreign adversaries are

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<v Speaker 2>able to scramble our brains and turn us against each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you hearing that from some of the people you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to in this reporting you're doing?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, the challenge in this is always to actually find

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<v Speaker 9>the source and link back to who is behind that.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that's why some preliminary research about Neville Roy

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<v Speaker 9>Singham funding a lot of these efforts has been really helpful.

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<v Speaker 9>But I think there's going to be more and more

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<v Speaker 9>that's coming out. And you just have to wonder, too, right,

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<v Speaker 9>how did these causes emerge? How is it that overnight

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<v Speaker 9>Free Palestine emerged? or F-Ice? How do these things come

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<v Speaker 9>into the zeitgeist? And how are data centers, something that

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<v Speaker 9>people do not see or interact with on a daily,

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<v Speaker 9>how is it that that has become the issue? How

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<v Speaker 9>is it that Jason Kelsey, now if you saw a

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<v Speaker 9>post in an ad saying, send your urine to data centers,

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<v Speaker 9>the ad was for a beer company and a water company,

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<v Speaker 9>but how is it that it's become such a cultural issue?

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<v Speaker 1>Touchstone, right?

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<v Speaker 9>Why aren't we having these same conversations about, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>sewage or any of those conversations? There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 9>things in communities that you need that are not pleasant,

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<v Speaker 9>that you might not want to live next to, right?

0:26:28.930 --> 0:26:30.550
<v Speaker 9>I would say data sets are probably one of them,

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<v Speaker 9>but for them to be the subject of vitriol and

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<v Speaker 9>hatred and protests, It really is a bit odd, and

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<v Speaker 9>it makes you wonder, again, why is this suddenly the

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<v Speaker 9>thing when you can argue a nuclear power plant would

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<v Speaker 9>be far more disruptive, and yet 50% of people would

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<v Speaker 9>be okay living near a nuclear power point, but just

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 9>about 20% to 25% would be willing to live near

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<v Speaker 9>a data center. Why do people prefer nuclear energy and

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<v Speaker 9>power plants to data centers? That doesn't add up. That's

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<v Speaker 9>kind of odd.

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<v Speaker 3>Lydia?

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a poll that indicated people wanted to live

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<v Speaker 2>next to a coal-fired power plant more than they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to live next to a data center. Now, look, I'm

0:27:12.970 --> 0:27:16.830
<v Speaker 2>a Kentuckian. This, of course, warms my heart. But it

0:27:16.890 --> 0:27:19.149
<v Speaker 2>just goes to show you that we have a lot

0:27:19.190 --> 0:27:22.430
<v Speaker 2>of strange things going. You mentioned Jason Kelsey. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if he was thinking deeply about the data centers while

0:27:24.910 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 2>he was recording his podcast that then goes out over

0:27:28.700 --> 0:27:31.660
<v Speaker 2>the Internet and into the podcasting streams and on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>Supported by data centers. I mean, these people just– it's

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<v Speaker 2>amazing to me the duality of man, as it were.

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 2>I know, and yet they don't– the celebrities who get

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:49.020
<v Speaker 2>involved in these things don't think that much about it. Lydia,

0:27:49.060 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you the last word on this.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had any advice for the tech companies and

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<v Speaker 2>for the politicians who want to do data centers and

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<v Speaker 2>do it right, what would it be?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, well, look, and I think we also need to

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<v Speaker 9>place some blame there. Many of the people who are

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 9>creating this technology are doomers. And so I think they've

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 9>injected a lot of this anxiety into the public. And

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<v Speaker 9>I think they need to continue to actually try and

0:28:13.940 --> 0:28:16.869
<v Speaker 9>win people over. I think people see data centers as

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<v Speaker 9>a physical manifestation of this technology that they're afraid of.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that's another piece of it as well. So

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<v Speaker 9>I think the more that we can for doctors now

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<v Speaker 9>to see double the patients.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, healthcare, healthcare, manufacturing. Yes, you are totally right. Healthcare, manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not taking anyone's jobs, but it is enhancing the

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<v Speaker 2>quality of life for people, for patients and workers. I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you. I'm totally, totally in agreement with you

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<v Speaker 2>about that story needing to get out. Lydia Moynihan from

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Post. Also, you see her on television sometimes, CNN.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always fun when we're together. And I see you

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox. So you've become a star, and we're glad

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<v Speaker 2>to have you with your reporting. But the latest column

0:29:07.410 --> 0:29:09.630
<v Speaker 2>from Lydia, look it up in the New York Post.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about data centers and sort of what they can do,

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<v Speaker 2>what they can do for impoverished communities that need an

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<v Speaker 2>economic development future. It's a really interesting argument. Lydia, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for joining us today. I need to give you

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<v Speaker 2>a quick note about a documentary that is about to

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<v Speaker 2>be released on It's about our friend Charlie Kirk, and

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<v Speaker 2>he sat down for one of his final interviews just

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks before he was assassinated on September

0:29:33.230 --> 0:29:37.850
<v Speaker 2>10th last year to answer a timeless question. Does God

0:29:37.990 --> 0:29:42.260
<v Speaker 2>still speak today, that conversation? became the foundation for this

0:29:42.340 --> 0:29:47.020
<v Speaker 2>provocative new documentary called Can You Hear Me Now? You

0:29:47.060 --> 0:29:53.050
<v Speaker 2>can order it at SalemNow.com SalemNow.com If you do it there,

0:29:53.530 --> 0:29:55.710
<v Speaker 2>you can also get a free DVD. You can also

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<v Speaker 2>visit the website CanYouHearMeNowFilm.com But if you love Charlie... As

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<v Speaker 2>much as we do here at the Scott Jennings Show,

0:30:02.810 --> 0:30:06.250
<v Speaker 2>you're going to want to see this documentary from director

0:30:06.310 --> 0:30:08.969
<v Speaker 2>Matthew Thayer. I think it'll be quite interesting. We'll have

0:30:08.990 --> 0:30:11.550
<v Speaker 2>more news on the other side. Lori Buckout, a candidate

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<v Speaker 2>for Congress here in North Carolina, joins us on the

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Conversations and stories you simply won't hear from the mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 2>On the road today, Pinehurst, North Carolina. And North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the most important states in this upcoming midterm.

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<v Speaker 2>We brought you some news on the Senate race earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I want to focus on one of the key

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<v Speaker 2>congressional races here. This is North Carolina's first district. And

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<v Speaker 2>the district was... Redrawn a bit in 2025, I think

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<v Speaker 2>a little more favorable to the Republicans. Rural communities included

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<v Speaker 2>here are in Northeastern and Eastern North Carolina. The Republican

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<v Speaker 2>candidate is Lori Buckout, and she's got a new ad out.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a listen to that here in cut one.

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<v Speaker 11>AOC, Mamdani, Newsom, radicals at war with our values. But

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<v Speaker 11>conservative Lori Buckout, she's used to the battle. Lori Buckout

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<v Speaker 11>is a combat colonel, 26 years in the Army, led

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<v Speaker 11>troops in Iraq, built a business, raised a family. Then

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<v Speaker 11>President Trump called on her. He appointed Buckout to the

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<v Speaker 11>Department of War. Lori Buckout, combat-tested MAGA warrior. The left

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<v Speaker 11>won't know what hit them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Lori Buckout. I approve this message.

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<v Speaker 2>And joining us live to discuss, retired Army Colonel Lori Buckout,

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican nominee, taking on Don Davis, the incumbent Democrat here. Lori,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott, many, many, many thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to be here. Yeah, glad to have you on. And,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this one we're paying close attention to. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is one of those districts, if the Republicans...

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<v Speaker 2>intend to hold the majority. It's going to run through

0:31:54.690 --> 0:31:57.550
<v Speaker 2>your congressional district. So you're out talking to voters right now.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of things going on in the world. What

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<v Speaker 2>are you hearing most from the people in North Carolina?

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<v Speaker 2>What issues are they asking you to focus on?

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<v Speaker 12>You know, affordability continues to be an issue. But every

0:32:11.470 --> 0:32:14.090
<v Speaker 12>time we're talking, I hear a lot of great feedback

0:32:14.150 --> 0:32:16.050
<v Speaker 12>about the closed border. I hear a lot of great

0:32:16.110 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 12>feedback about crime being down so dramatically. Believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 12>this seems like a sleepy district, but it's not in

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<v Speaker 12>terms of fentanyl coming through here under the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 12>So there were a lot of drugs here. There was

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of crime, illegal alien crime. So much of

0:32:32.660 --> 0:32:36.190
<v Speaker 12>that has been cleaned up. That's a very positive statistic

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<v Speaker 12>that people continue to talk about. They are focused on affordability,

0:32:40.110 --> 0:32:43.610
<v Speaker 12>but things are getting better on a regular basis. Gas

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<v Speaker 12>prices fluctuate. They still talk about that, but frankly, you know,

0:32:48.090 --> 0:32:51.230
<v Speaker 12>These people voted for Trump overwhelmingly. So they're happy to

0:32:51.290 --> 0:32:54.990
<v Speaker 12>talk about the Biden gas prices in contrast to where

0:32:55.010 --> 0:32:56.750
<v Speaker 12>they are now. And they know things are getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a break. We'll have more news

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<v Speaker 2>coming up after the top of the hour here. We're

0:33:02.110 --> 0:33:04.690
<v Speaker 2>very grateful for you listening in. Scott Jennings on Salem.

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<v Speaker 2>Common sense for the American people.

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<v Speaker 11>Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Tuesday, August the 25th. This is Scott Jennings

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<v Speaker 2>broadcasting for Salem. And I have an unfortunate story. Task

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<v Speaker 2>to bring you sad breaking news this hour. Legendary singer, songwriter,

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<v Speaker 2>and country music icon Dolly Parton has died at the

0:33:26.690 --> 0:33:31.540
<v Speaker 2>age of 80. Her nephew, Brian Seaver, has revealed this

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:35.420
<v Speaker 2>news just a few moments ago in a social media post.

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<v Speaker 2>He has confirmed the death of Dolly Parton. Dolly Parton,

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<v Speaker 2>80 years old. Her career spanned decades. It included Grammy wins,

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<v Speaker 2>several roles in movies, and later in life, she had

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 2>a musical even written about her life titled Dolly. Parton

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<v Speaker 2>was preceded in death by her husband of nearly 60 years,

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Thomas Dean, who died in March of 2025.

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<v Speaker 10>Jump in the shower and the blood starts pumping out

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<v Speaker 10>on the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>The traffic starts jumping with folks like me on the

0:34:15.150 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 2>job from nine to five. Dolly Parton, the news is,

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:24.180
<v Speaker 2>has passed away at the age of 80. And that

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 2>is just revealed to us by her family in just

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.299
<v Speaker 2>the last few minutes. Of course, you know her from

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 2>her many songs and also movies like Nine to Five

0:34:33.340 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 2>and Steel Magnolias. She was so much more than a

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 2>country music singer. She was really a cultural icon and

0:34:41.820 --> 0:34:46.989
<v Speaker 2>was one of the most beloved people ever coming out

0:34:47.050 --> 0:34:51.509
<v Speaker 2>of Nashville and certainly touched a lot of lives out there.

0:34:51.570 --> 0:34:53.510
<v Speaker 2>So the breaking news this hour here on the Scott

0:34:53.530 --> 0:34:58.529
<v Speaker 2>Jennings Show. Legendary singer-songwriter Dolly Parton has died at the

0:34:58.790 --> 0:35:01.509
<v Speaker 2>age of 80. We do have this message from her

0:35:01.610 --> 0:35:04.580
<v Speaker 2>family which has just come out. We're going to Get

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 2>that queued up for you and bring it to you

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>in just a few minutes. A few other headlines for

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:12.190
<v Speaker 2>you today. The Trump administration is preparing the largest mass

0:35:12.650 --> 0:35:16.110
<v Speaker 2>visa revocation in American history. As many as 200,000 business

0:35:16.150 --> 0:35:19.469
<v Speaker 2>and tourist visas could be canceled for foreign nationals who

0:35:19.510 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 2>later filed asylum claims. The murder trial of Lindsay Clancy

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 2>is wrapping up in Massachusetts with final expert testimony underway

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 2>and closing arguments expected on Wednesday. Clancy admits to killing

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.620
<v Speaker 2>her three young children. in 2023. Her defense argues she

0:35:35.660 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 2>was suffering from postpartum psychosis. Oklahoma Republicans selecting their nominee

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:45.340
<v Speaker 2>for governor today. The Trump-backed candidate is businessman Mike Mazzei.

0:35:46.350 --> 0:35:48.630
<v Speaker 2>And it's a race that will determine who succeeds the

0:35:48.730 --> 0:35:52.450
<v Speaker 2>term-limited Governor Kevin Stitt out there in Oklahoma. And now

0:35:52.469 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 2>we zoom down to Georgia, where Congressman Rich McCormick joins

0:35:55.780 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 2>us live and on the line. Congressman, a lot going

0:35:58.020 --> 0:36:01.060
<v Speaker 2>on politically down in Georgia. I know you're driving around

0:36:01.100 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 2>your congressional district. I'm interested to talk to you about

0:36:03.380 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 2>a number of issues. But first, I have to ask,

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.620
<v Speaker 2>you were on the line for that breaking news report.

0:36:09.300 --> 0:36:11.650
<v Speaker 2>What's your reaction to the news that Dolly Parton has

0:36:11.670 --> 0:36:12.129
<v Speaker 2>passed away?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I hear it here first, and it kind of

0:36:16.090 --> 0:36:19.049
<v Speaker 5>breaks my heart in some ways. She was an icon, absolutely.

0:36:19.250 --> 0:36:20.910
<v Speaker 5>I remember it was probably the first celebrity I ever

0:36:21.010 --> 0:36:23.509
<v Speaker 5>heard a name of by my father when I was

0:36:23.550 --> 0:36:27.489
<v Speaker 5>in elementary school about how good-looking she was. But what's funny,

0:36:27.530 --> 0:36:29.489
<v Speaker 5>she's more than just a pretty face. Yeah, she was

0:36:29.750 --> 0:36:32.540
<v Speaker 5>pure talent. She never spoke poorly of anybody. She was

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.779
<v Speaker 5>always upbeat, always smiling, known for that. I don't think

0:36:34.820 --> 0:36:37.580
<v Speaker 5>I ever saw her. uh, evolution where she was on

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 5>anything in the media where she wasn't smiling and positive.

0:36:41.500 --> 0:36:43.219
<v Speaker 5>And that's kind of her lasting effect. I think she'll

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.950
<v Speaker 5>be known as somebody who, who just exuded pure confidence and,

0:36:47.150 --> 0:36:49.549
<v Speaker 5>and could show that you could look good and have

0:36:49.590 --> 0:36:51.029
<v Speaker 5>talent at the same time. That's kind of what the

0:36:51.070 --> 0:36:53.550
<v Speaker 5>movie nine to five was all about. Uh, is basically

0:36:53.890 --> 0:36:57.589
<v Speaker 5>you can look good and still have talent and it's okay. Yeah.

0:36:57.630 --> 0:37:01.370
<v Speaker 2>She was, uh, Very talented and relentlessly positive. That's one

0:37:01.390 --> 0:37:04.089
<v Speaker 2>of the things I liked about Dolly Parton. Every time

0:37:04.110 --> 0:37:06.219
<v Speaker 2>you saw her in an interview or out anywhere in

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 2>the media, she was just relentlessly positive about our world

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 2>and about people. In a world where I think cynicism

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 2>and negativity drives a lot of clicks and attention, it

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 2>was always nice that someone like Dolly Parton would come

0:37:20.460 --> 0:37:22.940
<v Speaker 2>along and just be relentlessly positive. She grew up in

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.700
<v Speaker 2>Locust Ridge, Tennessee. She was the fourth child in a

0:37:25.739 --> 0:37:29.470
<v Speaker 2>family of 12. Her family lived in a small cabin

0:37:30.050 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 2>without electricity or running water, and her father paid the

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 2>doctor who delivered her with a sack of cornmeal. She

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 2>made her debut at the Grand Ole Opry when she

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:45.260
<v Speaker 2>was only 13 years old and rich. A fact about

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:49.630
<v Speaker 2>her music career, she wrote the song Jolene and I

0:37:49.650 --> 0:37:54.350
<v Speaker 2>Will Always Love You on the same day in 1972.

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.859
<v Speaker 2>When you think about her humble beginnings and you think

0:37:57.900 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 2>about what she was able to accomplish in her career

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.529
<v Speaker 2>and some of the amazing stories about how she accomplished

0:38:04.550 --> 0:38:09.210
<v Speaker 2>her musical feats, it really is a uniquely American story

0:38:09.390 --> 0:38:14.190
<v Speaker 2>about how far talent and a relentless drive and optimism

0:38:14.270 --> 0:38:16.509
<v Speaker 2>can take you. That's what makes America great, when you

0:38:16.550 --> 0:38:19.430
<v Speaker 2>have these people from humble beginnings that are talented and

0:38:19.450 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>they fight and they work and they claw, and all

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.240
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden they become successful beyond their wildest dreams.

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:26.050
<v Speaker 2>It's a great story.

0:38:27.190 --> 0:38:30.350
<v Speaker 5>It's the greatest story of America because she did it

0:38:30.450 --> 0:38:32.710
<v Speaker 5>all and she made no enemies in the process. I

0:38:32.750 --> 0:38:34.450
<v Speaker 5>just don't know of anyone who didn't like her. And

0:38:34.910 --> 0:38:36.629
<v Speaker 5>what a great legacy. I don't know what her greatest

0:38:36.670 --> 0:38:38.430
<v Speaker 5>legacy will be, but I love the fact that she

0:38:38.450 --> 0:38:41.299
<v Speaker 5>focused in on her positivity. I think she'd want to

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 5>be remembered for that.

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Congressman Rich McCormick from the great state of Georgia is

0:38:46.739 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 2>our special guest. And Rich, you and I are both

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 2>reacting to the news that Cultural and country music icon

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:56.100
<v Speaker 2>Dolly Parton has passed away at the age of 80. Now,

0:38:56.239 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 2>in her career, she got involved heavily in philanthropy. She

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:05.090
<v Speaker 2>started the Imagination Library, which gives millions of free books

0:39:05.150 --> 0:39:08.790
<v Speaker 2>to young children. She donated a million dollars to Vanderbilt

0:39:08.850 --> 0:39:12.860
<v Speaker 2>University at one point when they were doing vaccine research. research.

0:39:12.900 --> 0:39:16.380
<v Speaker 2>She was doing the Dollywood theme park in Pigeon Forge.

0:39:17.580 --> 0:39:20.820
<v Speaker 2>A cloned sheep named Dolly was named in her honor

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:25.330
<v Speaker 2>in 1996. There's so many interesting facts and interesting trivia

0:39:25.370 --> 0:39:28.030
<v Speaker 2>about Dolly Parton's life. You could go on for a while.

0:39:28.410 --> 0:39:30.190
<v Speaker 2>I'm told, by the way, Rich, that we do have

0:39:30.210 --> 0:39:33.230
<v Speaker 2>this message from her family. I'd like to play that

0:39:33.250 --> 0:39:35.970
<v Speaker 2>in its entirety. This is from her nephew, but this

0:39:36.010 --> 0:39:38.450
<v Speaker 2>is the family of Dolly Parton announcing her passing. Let's

0:39:38.469 --> 0:39:40.780
<v Speaker 2>hear that, Sean. Hey, everyone.

0:39:41.570 --> 0:39:44.930
<v Speaker 13>My name is Brian Seaver, son of Cassie Parton, and

0:39:45.010 --> 0:39:48.430
<v Speaker 13>I'm representing the Parton and Owens family today announcing the

0:39:48.469 --> 0:39:52.710
<v Speaker 13>passing of my Aunt Dolly Rebecca Parton Dean, sister, sis,

0:39:53.070 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 13>aunt granny to one generation and Gigi to the next.

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 13>This video announcement is something Dolly asked of me years

0:39:59.380 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 13>ago before I fully absorbed it as a future reality.

0:40:02.980 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 13>As her head of security for more than two decades,

0:40:05.460 --> 0:40:08.020
<v Speaker 13>a role my father Larry held before me, I have

0:40:08.060 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 13>imagined the heaviness of this moment but haven't truly felt

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.940
<v Speaker 13>it until now. It is an honor, an honor that

0:40:14.020 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 13>is mixed with absolute pride and great sadness.

0:40:17.020 --> 0:40:19.299
<v Speaker 1>But sadness lies with us, not with Dolly.

0:40:19.950 --> 0:40:22.350
<v Speaker 13>Dolly has lived in the light and is in the

0:40:22.450 --> 0:40:25.530
<v Speaker 13>arms of Jesus, surely met by Carl and her parents,

0:40:25.710 --> 0:40:28.110
<v Speaker 13>and countless others who have watched her and longed for

0:40:28.150 --> 0:40:31.009
<v Speaker 13>her to meet them in the heavens. I first went

0:40:31.050 --> 0:40:33.029
<v Speaker 13>on the road with Dolly as a kid, getting a

0:40:33.050 --> 0:40:36.390
<v Speaker 13>taste of the road life in the early 1980s. Dolly

0:40:36.469 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 13>opened doors not just for me, but for her entire

0:40:39.260 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 13>family to reach the potential we didn't even know was possible.

0:40:42.860 --> 0:40:47.280
<v Speaker 13>Dolly also opened doors for generations of singers, songwriters, musicians,

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:50.609
<v Speaker 13>and dreamers from every walk of life and across every continent.

0:40:51.170 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 13>By her example, we believed that anything was possible. She

0:40:54.780 --> 0:40:57.259
<v Speaker 13>never saw a door she couldn't open, and the door

0:40:57.300 --> 0:41:01.259
<v Speaker 13>she opened made and changed history. My family and I

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.620
<v Speaker 13>have shared a lifetime of beautiful memories with Dolly, but

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.819
<v Speaker 13>so have you. She has always been on your television,

0:41:08.140 --> 0:41:11.620
<v Speaker 13>your record player, your CD, and on your phone playlist,

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.259
<v Speaker 13>becoming an extended part of your family whether you liked

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 13>it or not. Our family and the team she has

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 13>entrusted with her legacy will work diligently to ensure her

0:41:19.820 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 13>spirit will live with us forever. Dolly was a farmer.

0:41:23.780 --> 0:41:27.090
<v Speaker 13>just like her daddy. He farmed the soil. She farmed

0:41:27.130 --> 0:41:30.469
<v Speaker 13>songs and happiness. Dolly called me and said she wants

0:41:30.510 --> 0:41:33.070
<v Speaker 13>to rest in a beautiful bed of plush cotton because

0:41:33.170 --> 0:41:36.489
<v Speaker 13>after a life wearing heavy rhinestones, she finally deserves to

0:41:36.530 --> 0:41:40.570
<v Speaker 13>be comfortable and have some rest. Rest in peace, Aunt Dolly,

0:41:41.350 --> 0:41:45.260
<v Speaker 13>Aunt Granny, Gigi. May God bless Dolly Parton and may

0:41:45.300 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 13>God bless you all. She will always love you.

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.299
<v Speaker 2>All right, this is Scott Jennings broadcasting live for Salem,

0:41:53.390 --> 0:41:56.150
<v Speaker 2>and we are engaged in bringing you the sad breaking

0:41:56.190 --> 0:42:00.690
<v Speaker 2>news that Dolly Parton has passed away at the age

0:42:01.090 --> 0:42:03.810
<v Speaker 2>of 80. And on the line with me for some

0:42:03.870 --> 0:42:07.020
<v Speaker 2>final thoughts on that, Congressman Rich McCormick of Georgia. Congressman,

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 2>you just heard the message from Dolly's family. I'll give

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:12.660
<v Speaker 2>you a chance to give a final reaction to this

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 2>sad news today.

0:42:15.070 --> 0:42:16.290
<v Speaker 1>Just well put.

0:42:16.469 --> 0:42:19.530
<v Speaker 5>Putting faith in things that are eternal rather than temporary.

0:42:19.980 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 5>Putting faith in God and family, not the things that

0:42:22.739 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 5>fail us like government and regulation. I mean, think about

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.790
<v Speaker 5>the life that she lived and what they just summed

0:42:29.890 --> 0:42:34.170
<v Speaker 5>up with what she believed in and what the American

0:42:34.210 --> 0:42:36.569
<v Speaker 5>dream is. I mean, it's everything that's good, everything that's

0:42:36.670 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 5>right in this world, and I think something we can celebrate.

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 2>Congressman Rich McCormick from the great state of Georgia, thanks

0:42:43.940 --> 0:42:46.219
<v Speaker 2>for joining us today. Congressman, I am going to have

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 2>you back. We've got a lot of issues going on

0:42:47.980 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 2>in this world and in our politics that we wanted

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:52.910
<v Speaker 2>to discuss today. But, you know, sir, I think it's

0:42:52.969 --> 0:42:55.350
<v Speaker 2>quite appropriate that we just sort of focus on the

0:42:55.390 --> 0:42:57.350
<v Speaker 2>news of the hour, which is that Dolly Parton has

0:42:57.390 --> 0:42:59.630
<v Speaker 2>passed away. Thanks for being flexible with us, and we'll

0:42:59.650 --> 0:43:00.450
<v Speaker 2>have you back on soon.

0:43:01.610 --> 0:43:03.140
<v Speaker 5>I'll look forward to that. A lot of good things

0:43:03.180 --> 0:43:04.980
<v Speaker 5>to talk about. God bless you and simplify.

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:08.860
<v Speaker 2>All right. Thanks a lot, Congressman Rich McCormick from Georgia.

0:43:09.230 --> 0:43:11.750
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's interesting, folks. Sometimes you plan out things

0:43:11.830 --> 0:43:14.150
<v Speaker 2>and the news breaks and you react to that in

0:43:14.190 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 2>the moment. And honestly, the passing of Dolly Parton, you

0:43:17.260 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 2>think about the people in our culture and in America

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.460
<v Speaker 2>when they were to pass away. Would it cause everybody

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 2>to stop and talk about it? And one of the

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 2>rare people is, in fact, Dolly Parton, who has, in fact,

0:43:29.660 --> 0:43:32.950
<v Speaker 2>passed away, sadly, at the age of 80. We'll have

0:43:32.989 --> 0:43:35.009
<v Speaker 2>more on The Scott Jennings Show after this.

0:43:45.230 --> 0:43:46.230
<v Speaker 1>I'm begging of.

0:43:46.170 --> 0:43:50.370
<v Speaker 3>You, please don't take my man.

0:43:52.210 --> 0:44:01.830
<v Speaker 11>And I will always love you.

0:44:01.630 --> 0:44:05.670
<v Speaker 2>Well, you certainly know that voice. That of Dolly Parton.

0:44:07.210 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 2>One of the most groundbreaking and successful musicians and actresses

0:44:14.010 --> 0:44:18.030
<v Speaker 2>In America, she had a career of making musical hits

0:44:18.090 --> 0:44:23.030
<v Speaker 2>and making great movies and television stardom and cultural icon,

0:44:23.150 --> 0:44:26.930
<v Speaker 2>theme parks, philanthropy, you name it, and Dolly Parton was

0:44:26.989 --> 0:44:29.450
<v Speaker 2>part of it in American culture. She has passed away

0:44:30.270 --> 0:44:32.170
<v Speaker 2>at the age of 80. We just learned that news

0:44:32.230 --> 0:44:35.009
<v Speaker 2>just a few minutes ago. Joining me now from the

0:44:35.050 --> 0:44:38.730
<v Speaker 2>free press, Olivia Rheingold. Olivia, you've got some reporting on

0:44:38.750 --> 0:44:40.770
<v Speaker 2>a totally unrelated story, but I thought I'd give you

0:44:40.790 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 2>a moment to react to the passing of Dolly Parton. Oh,

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:53.850
<v Speaker 2>did we lose Olivia? Sounds like we might have lost

0:44:53.890 --> 0:44:54.630
<v Speaker 2>Olivia Rheingold.

0:44:55.210 --> 0:44:56.370
<v Speaker 1>Hey, are you there?

0:44:56.710 --> 0:44:57.290
<v Speaker 14>Can you hear me?

0:44:57.770 --> 0:45:00.630
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we can hear you, Olivia. We were just commenting

0:45:00.690 --> 0:45:02.569
<v Speaker 2>on the passing of Dolly Parton. I thought before we

0:45:02.590 --> 0:45:04.630
<v Speaker 2>started our interview, you might have a thought or two

0:45:04.670 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to weigh in on.

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 14>Actually, you are informing me, and that is kind of emotional.

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.860
<v Speaker 14>I feel like love of Dolly Parton is something my

0:45:17.900 --> 0:45:21.410
<v Speaker 14>mom and I I think that she is one of,

0:45:21.550 --> 0:45:26.510
<v Speaker 14>or wow, to use past tense now, was a rare

0:45:27.090 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 14>intergenerational figure in America, where I feel like that was

0:45:31.739 --> 0:45:33.839
<v Speaker 14>the case in so many households, where it would be

0:45:34.540 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 14>grandmothers and probably even across genders, too. You know, both men, women, grandfathers, grandmothers.

0:45:45.540 --> 0:45:50.390
<v Speaker 14>She was a real legend and icon there. That's rough.

0:45:52.270 --> 0:45:56.029
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's hitting hard for a lot of people.

0:45:56.780 --> 0:45:59.899
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it's an emotional news story for you

0:45:59.940 --> 0:46:02.720
<v Speaker 2>because of something that it was a shared love between

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 2>you and your mother. And I'm sure there are a

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of Americans who are feeling that right now. I

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 2>was talking to Congressman Rich McCormick from Georgia in our

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:16.239
<v Speaker 2>last segment just as the news broke. And One of

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:20.359
<v Speaker 2>the things we were talking about was just how relentlessly

0:46:20.500 --> 0:46:24.770
<v Speaker 2>positive she always was. No matter what she was doing,

0:46:25.050 --> 0:46:28.669
<v Speaker 2>she was smiling. She was positive about what she was doing.

0:46:28.730 --> 0:46:31.670
<v Speaker 2>She was positive about the impact that it was having

0:46:31.750 --> 0:46:36.379
<v Speaker 2>on people. Olivia, I think in a world where negativity

0:46:36.430 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 2>and cynicism and anger and hostility seems to be ruling

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:43.919
<v Speaker 2>the day on a lot of issues, What is really

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.470
<v Speaker 2>sad about this for me is that we've lost, I think,

0:46:46.570 --> 0:46:49.790
<v Speaker 2>one of the most relentless voices for positivity in American culture,

0:46:49.810 --> 0:46:52.150
<v Speaker 2>really in the world. I don't think I ever heard

0:46:52.190 --> 0:46:55.350
<v Speaker 2>Dolly Parton say a negative thing about anything. She was

0:46:55.370 --> 0:46:59.890
<v Speaker 2>just constantly positive about everything she was doing. And, boy,

0:46:59.930 --> 0:47:02.210
<v Speaker 2>she had a way of making people feel so good

0:47:02.250 --> 0:47:06.260
<v Speaker 2>about the world we live in. You are so right.

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 14>And, I mean, maybe I have this wrong, but I

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 14>feel like her legacy at least is pretty apolitical, which is,

0:47:13.780 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 14>I think what you should aspire for as an artist

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:21.739
<v Speaker 14>and a musician. I think of her as someone who, uh,

0:47:23.940 --> 0:47:25.879
<v Speaker 14>you know, was a country music star, but did not

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 14>make that in and of itself political. Um, and I

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 14>feel like maybe it's too far to say, but was,

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:37.890
<v Speaker 14>was a real patriot and was never ashamed to love

0:47:38.110 --> 0:47:42.990
<v Speaker 14>America and also, um, stand up for kids. I know

0:47:43.010 --> 0:47:46.100
<v Speaker 14>that that was a huge issue for her, was childhood literacy.

0:47:46.780 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 14>And I hope her program continues. I feel like that

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:52.219
<v Speaker 14>had a real positive impact.

0:47:53.860 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're saying that she was a patriot. I

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.950
<v Speaker 2>think that is so true. And you're right. She really

0:47:59.989 --> 0:48:03.910
<v Speaker 2>did sort of avoid the maelstrom of politics. But she

0:48:04.070 --> 0:48:08.509
<v Speaker 2>often talked about, I think, American unity and patriotism. I

0:48:08.570 --> 0:48:13.330
<v Speaker 2>think she knew what an amazing country she grew up

0:48:13.410 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 2>in because of her humble beginnings. I mean she came

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:19.580
<v Speaker 2>from an extraordinarily poor family. I think I was just

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:23.100
<v Speaker 2>reading her father paid the doctor for her delivery when

0:48:23.140 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 2>she was born with like a sack of cornmeal. I

0:48:25.219 --> 0:48:28.750
<v Speaker 2>mean this– she didn't have electricity. She didn't have running water,

0:48:28.850 --> 0:48:32.910
<v Speaker 2>and you think about coming from humble beginnings to becoming

0:48:33.330 --> 0:48:36.969
<v Speaker 2>the icon that she was. Well– Olivia, listen, I'll tell

0:48:36.989 --> 0:48:38.190
<v Speaker 2>you what we're going to do. We're going to take

0:48:38.230 --> 0:48:41.470
<v Speaker 2>a commercial break, and why don't you hold the line?

0:48:41.489 --> 0:48:45.370
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to shortchange your reporting here. I do

0:48:45.390 --> 0:48:47.629
<v Speaker 2>want to get to it in just a moment. Let's

0:48:47.670 --> 0:48:50.230
<v Speaker 2>take a break and collect ourselves. Dolly Parton has died

0:48:50.270 --> 0:48:52.910
<v Speaker 2>at the age of 80. We're going to hear some messages,

0:48:53.710 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 2>and we'll have Olivia Rheingold on the other side. It's

0:48:55.660 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 2>the Scott Jennings Show on CW. Common sense for the

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:19.820
<v Speaker 2>American people. This is the Scott Jennings Show. And we're

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.530
<v Speaker 2>going in and out of our breaks today with songs

0:49:22.570 --> 0:49:24.989
<v Speaker 2>of Dolly Parton, who sadly has passed away at the

0:49:25.170 --> 0:49:27.609
<v Speaker 2>age of 80. We heard that news just a few

0:49:27.650 --> 0:49:30.550
<v Speaker 2>minutes ago. We'll get back to talking about that in

0:49:30.610 --> 0:49:32.660
<v Speaker 2>just a little while. For the next few minutes, though,

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I have two interesting and amazing journalists on the line.

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:38.970
<v Speaker 2>Olivia Rheingold is here from the Free Press Network. Olivia,

0:49:39.010 --> 0:49:42.210
<v Speaker 2>thanks for joining us today. You've got some remarkable reporting,

0:49:42.930 --> 0:49:49.130
<v Speaker 2>and the reporting is the low levels of child malnutrition

0:49:49.370 --> 0:49:53.270
<v Speaker 2>in Gaza. It's remarkable because you'd think, wow, that's great news.

0:49:53.330 --> 0:49:56.859
<v Speaker 2>Why isn't everyone in the free world talking about this?

0:49:56.940 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's because it cuts against the narrative

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 2>and the propaganda that there was a genocide or a

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:06.509
<v Speaker 2>famine in Gaza at all. Olivia, thanks for hanging on

0:50:06.530 --> 0:50:09.439
<v Speaker 2>the line with us here to discuss your reporting on this.

0:50:09.980 --> 0:50:13.959
<v Speaker 2>In August of 2025, Gaza was declared famine-stricken, but now

0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:17.010
<v Speaker 2>new data shows that Gaza has one of the region's

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:21.370
<v Speaker 2>lowest levels of child malnutrition. Talk to us about the data.

0:50:21.410 --> 0:50:23.270
<v Speaker 2>Talk to us about your reporting and what's going on

0:50:23.310 --> 0:50:24.090
<v Speaker 2>out there with this story.

0:50:25.420 --> 0:50:25.700
<v Speaker 11>Right.

0:50:25.969 --> 0:50:28.669
<v Speaker 14>So again, you would think that this would be huge

0:50:28.989 --> 0:50:34.470
<v Speaker 14>front page news. This is the most robust nutrition survey

0:50:34.510 --> 0:50:36.450
<v Speaker 14>to come out of Gaza since the war began. This

0:50:36.530 --> 0:50:39.980
<v Speaker 14>is not just any study. This is a UNICEF-led team,

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:45.799
<v Speaker 14>and it's extremely robust data. And it shows that far

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:53.000
<v Speaker 14>from a remarkably low levels of severe malnutrition among children.

0:50:53.340 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 14>So this is not just low for Gaza, this is

0:50:56.640 --> 0:51:01.020
<v Speaker 14>actually low for anywhere in the region, if not the world.

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:04.360
<v Speaker 14>It really puts it on par more with like Europe

0:51:04.380 --> 0:51:10.219
<v Speaker 14>or even North America almost. And when I spoke to

0:51:10.420 --> 0:51:14.540
<v Speaker 14>UNICEF about this data, They said that both things can

0:51:14.580 --> 0:51:18.739
<v Speaker 14>be true at once, that Gaza was famine-stricken then and

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:24.390
<v Speaker 14>now is experiencing low levels of severe malnutrition in children. Well,

0:51:24.950 --> 0:51:30.710
<v Speaker 14>the problem with that is that, one, UNICEF USA, at

0:51:30.750 --> 0:51:34.469
<v Speaker 14>least the U.S. branch, is still continuing to fundraise off

0:51:34.489 --> 0:51:40.270
<v Speaker 14>of the claims that starvation there is still occurring. So

0:51:40.630 --> 0:51:44.610
<v Speaker 14>that is one thing. The other thing is that that

0:51:44.750 --> 0:51:49.230
<v Speaker 14>just defies how the timeline for famines normally unfolds. You know,

0:51:49.350 --> 0:51:53.150
<v Speaker 14>every famine is different. That is what every expert I

0:51:53.190 --> 0:52:01.720
<v Speaker 14>spoke with said. But Sudan, for example, almost 10 years ago, sorry,

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:04.140
<v Speaker 14>South Sudan, I just had to check that to make

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:07.390
<v Speaker 14>sure I'm getting everything straight. South Sudan, nearly 10 years ago,

0:52:07.410 --> 0:52:11.460
<v Speaker 14>a famine was first declared there. Fast forward to today,

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 14>things are still not looking anywhere near normal or healthy there.

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:18.879
<v Speaker 14>They have very high levels of stunting, much higher than

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 14>in Gaza. And acute malnutrition among children is still quite high.

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 14>And so the experts I spoke with said that if

0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 14>there were a famine in Gaza a year ago, that

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:36.790
<v Speaker 14>you would still really see that. playing out in terms

0:52:36.910 --> 0:52:40.379
<v Speaker 14>of a higher malnutrition rate and a higher stunting rate.

0:52:40.410 --> 0:52:43.359
<v Speaker 14>And so this new data has caused some experts to

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:48.400
<v Speaker 14>revisit that original famine declaration and ask, wait, did the

0:52:48.460 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 14>experts have that right then? Was it fair to declare

0:52:51.660 --> 0:52:53.180
<v Speaker 14>famine in Gaza originally?

0:52:54.780 --> 0:52:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, it certainly, Olivia, sounds like a case where the

0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:03.310
<v Speaker 2>data is running headlong into the narrative or even the propaganda. And,

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:08.060
<v Speaker 2>you know, to me, it's more than just people online saying, oh,

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 2>it's a famine or, oh, it's a genocide or, oh,

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:13.840
<v Speaker 2>this or that. You have news outlets that continue to

0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:17.990
<v Speaker 2>use these terms. You have major cultural celebrities that continue

0:53:18.010 --> 0:53:20.529
<v Speaker 2>to use these terms. You have major institutions, as you

0:53:20.570 --> 0:53:24.529
<v Speaker 2>pointed out, that are telling donors, give us money using

0:53:24.590 --> 0:53:27.570
<v Speaker 2>these terms. And the data doesn't match any of it.

0:53:27.590 --> 0:53:30.480
<v Speaker 2>And I wonder, based on your reporting, Do you think

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:32.859
<v Speaker 2>that's ever going to be unraveled or do you think

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:36.610
<v Speaker 2>they were so successful with the propaganda campaign regarding what

0:53:36.650 --> 0:53:38.489
<v Speaker 2>was going on with Gaza that no matter what the

0:53:38.550 --> 0:53:40.969
<v Speaker 2>data ever says, are we ever going to be able

0:53:40.989 --> 0:53:44.989
<v Speaker 2>to unravel the truth and change what's currently in the

0:53:45.030 --> 0:53:45.830
<v Speaker 2>public consciousness?

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:52.760
<v Speaker 14>No, because I don't think that this was really about facts.

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:57.800
<v Speaker 14>So I'm not sure that facts can really change people's

0:53:58.260 --> 0:54:03.990
<v Speaker 14>people's minds. I will say one nutrition academic I spoke

0:54:04.050 --> 0:54:08.270
<v Speaker 14>with who works at a very prestigious university, I sent

0:54:08.310 --> 0:54:11.330
<v Speaker 14>her these slides that, again, are from a UNICEF-led team

0:54:11.690 --> 0:54:15.330
<v Speaker 14>and show these low levels of child malnutrition. And I

0:54:15.370 --> 0:54:19.779
<v Speaker 14>kind of heard her puzzling over them going, huh. And

0:54:19.820 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 14>I asked her up front, I said, are you afraid

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:26.780
<v Speaker 14>to say that these numbers are lower than you expected?

0:54:27.380 --> 0:54:33.000
<v Speaker 14>she genuinely paused for six seconds and then said, I

0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:33.719
<v Speaker 14>don't know. I don't know.

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:35.220
<v Speaker 1>I just, I think I need more data.

0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:39.140
<v Speaker 14>And so again, I'm not quite sure that this is

0:54:39.380 --> 0:54:42.440
<v Speaker 14>about facts. The data that was collected actually was the

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:46.359
<v Speaker 14>gold standard metric of data. The original famine declaration was

0:54:46.489 --> 0:54:50.509
<v Speaker 14>made on using a metric that is considered much less

0:54:50.770 --> 0:54:54.930
<v Speaker 14>precise and more of an emergency use basis. And she said,

0:54:55.230 --> 0:54:58.089
<v Speaker 14>was confronted with the gold standard metric and felt like

0:54:58.210 --> 0:55:02.330
<v Speaker 14>even that was not enough to just say it like

0:55:02.390 --> 0:55:02.710
<v Speaker 14>it is.

0:55:02.870 --> 0:55:08.770
<v Speaker 2>So, um, yeah, obviously she fear, obviously she fears professional retribution.

0:55:09.090 --> 0:55:10.910
<v Speaker 2>And I think that to me is one of the

0:55:10.950 --> 0:55:13.739
<v Speaker 2>saddest parts of this story is that a whole bunch

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:16.620
<v Speaker 2>of people who know better are going to continue to

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:18.940
<v Speaker 2>say things that are not based in data and based

0:55:18.980 --> 0:55:22.240
<v Speaker 2>in facts because they fear the mob. And this entire

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 2>story is about mob coercion instead of what the actual

0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:29.660
<v Speaker 2>truth is, and that, of course, has influenced policymaking and

0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:32.450
<v Speaker 2>our political debates and on and on and on. Well,

0:55:32.469 --> 0:55:34.850
<v Speaker 2>Olivia Reingold from the Free Press, thanks for your reporting

0:55:34.930 --> 0:55:38.130
<v Speaker 2>on this. Very courageous, and we appreciate you making time

0:55:38.270 --> 0:55:40.430
<v Speaker 2>for us today here on the Scott Jennings Show. Let's

0:55:40.469 --> 0:55:44.210
<v Speaker 2>transition out to Seattle. We're joined by another journalist today

0:55:44.270 --> 0:55:49.020
<v Speaker 2>named Matt Calkins. Matt spent 11 years covering Seattle sports

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 2>before recently leaving the Seattle Times over an unpublished column titled,

0:55:54.880 --> 0:56:00.460
<v Speaker 2>examining fairness in women's athletics and the controversy surrounding WNBA

0:56:00.540 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 2>player Sophie Cunningham. Matt is with us to talk about

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 2>why he walked away from his column at the Seattle Times. Matt,

0:56:08.100 --> 0:56:10.609
<v Speaker 2>thanks for making a few minutes for us today here

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:14.470
<v Speaker 2>on the Scott Shedding Show. Remarkable story. You wrote something

0:56:14.770 --> 0:56:16.890
<v Speaker 2>that I'm sure you stand by to this moment that

0:56:16.910 --> 0:56:19.910
<v Speaker 2>your newspaper didn't want to print. And instead of just

0:56:19.950 --> 0:56:22.310
<v Speaker 2>putting up with it, you walked away. Tell us the story.

0:56:23.489 --> 0:56:25.210
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, well, it wasn't the first time they spiked a

0:56:25.230 --> 0:56:27.910
<v Speaker 10>column of mine, but this was kind of the last

0:56:27.930 --> 0:56:32.310
<v Speaker 10>straw for me. And what I basically wrote was I

0:56:32.350 --> 0:56:36.950
<v Speaker 10>talked to two girls, high school girls, who had to

0:56:37.700 --> 0:56:40.140
<v Speaker 10>compete against biological males. One of them lost a track

0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 10>meet or a track race when she was in eighth grade.

0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 10>Another one declined to play against a boy in a

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:49.860
<v Speaker 10>basketball game and received all kind of vitriol from her classmates.

0:56:50.300 --> 0:56:53.170
<v Speaker 10>And I– Basically interviewed these girls, and one of them

0:56:53.210 --> 0:56:55.569
<v Speaker 10>was at a Sophie Cunningham rally outside of Climate Pledge

0:56:55.610 --> 0:56:59.009
<v Speaker 10>Arena before the fever played the Seattle storm. And I

0:56:59.050 --> 0:57:02.620
<v Speaker 10>basically just said, hey, just because you are agreeing with

0:57:02.660 --> 0:57:05.279
<v Speaker 10>Sophie or these girls, it doesn't make you transphobic. That

0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:07.440
<v Speaker 10>was really the heart of it. That's what these girls

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:09.620
<v Speaker 10>were saying. This is not an anti-trans movement. This is

0:57:09.660 --> 0:57:13.299
<v Speaker 10>a pro-women's movement. It was fairly diplomatic, but Seattle Times

0:57:13.340 --> 0:57:13.940
<v Speaker 10>didn't want to run it.

0:57:16.370 --> 0:57:18.310
<v Speaker 2>And when they told you that they weren't going to

0:57:18.370 --> 0:57:20.530
<v Speaker 2>run it, what was the reason they gave you?

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:24.500
<v Speaker 10>So I gave it to them on a Friday morning.

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:29.010
<v Speaker 10>The editor looked at it, said, okay, we're going to

0:57:29.030 --> 0:57:30.430
<v Speaker 10>take a look at this, but it won't quite be

0:57:30.470 --> 0:57:32.390
<v Speaker 10>ready for Sunday's paper. And I said, that's fine. I'm

0:57:32.410 --> 0:57:36.170
<v Speaker 10>not trying to rush this. Then on Monday, my editor

0:57:36.210 --> 0:57:38.490
<v Speaker 10>said that his boss was going to take this to

0:57:38.510 --> 0:57:42.810
<v Speaker 10>the top two newsroom bosses on Wednesday. And I'm already going, okay,

0:57:42.830 --> 0:57:45.140
<v Speaker 10>this is kind of becoming an event already, just trying

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:47.140
<v Speaker 10>to get this in. And Thursday morning, I got a

0:57:47.180 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 10>call saying, you know what? You didn't tell us what

0:57:49.380 --> 0:57:52.580
<v Speaker 10>you were doing in advance, which– It happens all the time, really.

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:55.780
<v Speaker 10>And so we're not going to run it. I called

0:57:55.820 --> 0:57:58.320
<v Speaker 10>BS on it and said, I can't do my job

0:57:58.340 --> 0:58:00.700
<v Speaker 10>here anymore. And I just gave them my two weeks

0:58:00.740 --> 0:58:01.100
<v Speaker 10>right there.

0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:05.439
<v Speaker 2>And to be clear, you're an opinion columnist, right? It's

0:58:05.740 --> 0:58:08.380
<v Speaker 2>your job to have opinions about issues going on in

0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the community and in the world. Correct.

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:14.970
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, they pay me for my sports opinions. But kind

0:58:14.990 --> 0:58:16.890
<v Speaker 10>of any time I went against the grain, they just

0:58:16.930 --> 0:58:20.770
<v Speaker 10>weren't having it. So just an incompatible situation.

0:58:22.860 --> 0:58:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Just like the conversation we were just having with Olivia

0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:29.430
<v Speaker 2>Rheingold about the accepted narrative on this Gaza story, which

0:58:29.470 --> 0:58:31.850
<v Speaker 2>she has the data on, I feel like there's some

0:58:31.910 --> 0:58:34.910
<v Speaker 2>similarities here in that I think a lot of people

0:58:34.950 --> 0:58:38.570
<v Speaker 2>believe that inside news organizations there are certain opinions you're

0:58:38.590 --> 0:58:40.350
<v Speaker 2>just not allowed to have, or at least if you

0:58:40.390 --> 0:58:42.890
<v Speaker 2>have them, you're not allowed to write them down or

0:58:42.970 --> 0:58:47.530
<v Speaker 2>verbalize them. Your situation seems to be confirming that. everyone's

0:58:48.210 --> 0:58:52.440
<v Speaker 2>worst nightmares about the news media organizations that are supposed

0:58:52.460 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 2>to be bringing us facts and information and, frankly, opinions

0:58:58.100 --> 0:59:01.080
<v Speaker 2>rooted in those facts and information. That's what we're buying

0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:04.410
<v Speaker 2>newspapers for. That's why we tune into news outlets. You've

0:59:04.450 --> 0:59:06.970
<v Speaker 2>been involved in journalism for a very long time now.

0:59:07.770 --> 0:59:09.930
<v Speaker 2>Has it always been this way, or do you think

0:59:09.990 --> 0:59:13.160
<v Speaker 2>it has gotten worse and over the line just in

0:59:13.180 --> 0:59:17.040
<v Speaker 2>the last few years? Definitely worse over the last few years.

0:59:17.300 --> 0:59:19.690
<v Speaker 10>When I first got to the Seattle Times in 2015,

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.780
<v Speaker 10>obviously Seattle is very liberal and they're going to attract

0:59:22.860 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 10>a liberal crowd in their newsroom.

0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:26.880
<v Speaker 1>But I would kind of run some columns.

0:59:26.580 --> 0:59:27.980
<v Speaker 2>That push the envelope a little bit.

0:59:28.590 --> 0:59:33.150
<v Speaker 10>I criticized an Antifa flag at a Seattle Sounders game.

0:59:33.690 --> 0:59:35.980
<v Speaker 10>That's the Major League Soccer team in Seattle, and.

0:59:36.140 --> 0:59:37.110
<v Speaker 2>That got in.

0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:40.640
<v Speaker 10>I wrote some columns kind of about LeBron James and

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:43.140
<v Speaker 10>some of his political opinions and whatnot, and that got in.

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 10>But as time went on, different people in the newsroom

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.100
<v Speaker 10>would kind of storm into my editor's office, and I

0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:52.120
<v Speaker 10>guess people would talk smack on Slack about this, and

0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:54.790
<v Speaker 10>it just kind of became a thing in the newsroom

0:59:54.830 --> 0:59:57.090
<v Speaker 10>where this one guy is kind of going against the

0:59:57.130 --> 0:59:59.020
<v Speaker 10>grain a little bit. And, you know, in 2020, 2019,

0:59:59.020 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 10>kind of when everything blew up in terms of, you know,

1:00:03.380 --> 1:00:05.440
<v Speaker 10>the wokeness, if you will. I try not to use

1:00:05.460 --> 1:00:07.360
<v Speaker 10>that word a lot, but that's just that's just what

1:00:07.400 --> 1:00:10.330
<v Speaker 10>it is. It kind of all shut down. And any

1:00:10.390 --> 1:00:13.530
<v Speaker 10>time I tried to, you know, get, you know, an

1:00:13.590 --> 1:00:16.970
<v Speaker 10>opinion that kind of ran contrary to the narrative, it

1:00:17.010 --> 1:00:19.260
<v Speaker 10>got shut down. So I got four columns shut down,

1:00:19.660 --> 1:00:22.200
<v Speaker 10>but I probably self censored 100 of them just because

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:24.180
<v Speaker 10>I knew that there was no chance it was going

1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:24.900
<v Speaker 10>to it was going to fly.

1:00:25.720 --> 1:00:28.230
<v Speaker 2>Well, that in and of itself is incredible to hear

1:00:28.290 --> 1:00:30.890
<v Speaker 2>you say that you had to self-censor your own writing

1:00:30.930 --> 1:00:34.030
<v Speaker 2>because you knew it probably wouldn't be passable at the

1:00:34.050 --> 1:00:37.130
<v Speaker 2>Seattle Times. I got one final question for you, Matt.

1:00:37.310 --> 1:00:39.110
<v Speaker 2>I hear a lot of people asking this right now

1:00:39.650 --> 1:00:42.790
<v Speaker 2>because of the WNBA and sort of the discourse in

1:00:42.850 --> 1:00:46.830
<v Speaker 2>sports journalism. Why is it that sports journalism seems to

1:00:46.890 --> 1:00:51.590
<v Speaker 2>be the most liberal sport? progressive, radical, woke corner of

1:00:51.890 --> 1:00:54.680
<v Speaker 2>all journalism. What is it about the people who go

1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:57.920
<v Speaker 2>into sports journalism or edit sports journalism that makes them

1:00:58.620 --> 1:01:02.360
<v Speaker 2>such left-leaning people these days? I don't know what it is.

1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:04.700
<v Speaker 10>Clay Travis, who I'm sure you probably know, said that

1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:07.750
<v Speaker 10>the sports media is more left-wing than the political media,

1:01:08.230 --> 1:01:09.050
<v Speaker 10>and I believe that.

1:01:09.250 --> 1:01:10.670
<v Speaker 2>I'm not exactly sure what it is.

1:01:10.730 --> 1:01:13.550
<v Speaker 10>What's interesting to me is that all these people who

1:01:13.590 --> 1:01:17.150
<v Speaker 10>have these expertise in sports, you know, football, baseball, just, they,

1:01:17.190 --> 1:01:18.670
<v Speaker 10>they know the ins and outs of it, ins and

1:01:18.710 --> 1:01:20.430
<v Speaker 10>outs of it in a way that, you know, most

1:01:20.470 --> 1:01:22.700
<v Speaker 10>people don't and they're experts and they blow me away

1:01:22.760 --> 1:01:24.840
<v Speaker 10>with how much they know. But for some reason, they

1:01:24.900 --> 1:01:28.040
<v Speaker 10>also think they're experts on politics. They wouldn't think they're

1:01:28.060 --> 1:01:31.180
<v Speaker 10>experts on like astrophysics or something else. But for some reason,

1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:34.960
<v Speaker 10>when it comes to politics, they think they know everything. And, uh,

1:01:35.020 --> 1:01:36.860
<v Speaker 10>you know, they write these columns that they're so sure

1:01:36.910 --> 1:01:40.490
<v Speaker 10>about and they're, they're just convinced that anyone who disagrees

1:01:40.530 --> 1:01:41.270
<v Speaker 10>with them is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>They're, uh, Yeah, they certainly get on their moral high

1:01:47.510 --> 1:01:49.570
<v Speaker 2>horses about a lot of issues that have nothing to

1:01:49.610 --> 1:01:52.490
<v Speaker 2>do with sports. Matt Calkins, former sports columnist for the

1:01:52.530 --> 1:01:55.189
<v Speaker 2>Seattle Times. We'll look forward to your next landing spot

1:01:55.230 --> 1:01:57.330
<v Speaker 2>and have you back here on the show. More news

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<v Speaker 2>after this. Back to the discussion of the passing of

1:02:00.250 --> 1:02:09.070
<v Speaker 2>Dolly Parton when we come back. You know that voice,

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<v Speaker 2>that of Dolly Parton, one of the greatest country singers

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<v Speaker 2>to ever live. Sadly, Dolly has passed away today at

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<v Speaker 2>the age of 80, and we are talking about her

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<v Speaker 2>career and her life here on the Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 2>In just a moment, in fact, our friend Lori Buckout

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<v Speaker 2>from North Carolina, she's a candidate for Congress in the

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<v Speaker 2>and Give her reaction to the news that Dolly has passed.

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina's 1st Congressional District. Lori, thanks for coming back

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<v Speaker 2>into the show with us here. I do have a message,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, from the President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump has weighed in. Quote, One of the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>country singers and far beyond ever has just passed away.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a true loss for millions of people. There has

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<v Speaker 2>never been anyone like her and never will. In her honor,

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<v Speaker 2>I am lowering the American flag throughout the United States

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<v Speaker 2>for a one-week period beginning tonight at 6 p.m. Rest

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<v Speaker 2>in peace, Dolly. The world loves you, President Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Lori Buckhout, when you heard this news, what was your

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<v Speaker 2>reaction to the passing of Dolly Parton?

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<v Speaker 8>Pardon?

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<v Speaker 12>You know, I've been working so hard on the campaign trail,

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<v Speaker 12>and you think, you know, your head's down, you're so focused.

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<v Speaker 12>Dolly Parton cut through all that. You talk about somebody

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<v Speaker 12>so universally beloved. I'm still in shock.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a hard loss. I wasn't ready. I'm not ready.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think we're going to find that Dolly–

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about this over the last hour, Laurie,

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<v Speaker 2>as this story has unfolded. Who are or were– the

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<v Speaker 2>most unifying people in our culture. We kind of live

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<v Speaker 2>in a divided culture, and maybe sometimes it's like we

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<v Speaker 2>live in alternate realities from each other. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>you just said it right. She cut through. Dolly Parton

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<v Speaker 2>was beloved by people on the right, people on the left,

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<v Speaker 2>people who don't care about politics that much, people in cities,

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<v Speaker 2>people in the country. She was one of those rare,

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<v Speaker 2>unifying figures that cut across so many cultural barriers, so

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<v Speaker 2>many socioeconomic barriers. And it was hard to find somebody

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<v Speaker 2>out there who couldn't tell you what their favorite Dolly

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<v Speaker 2>Parton song was. That's the kind of role she played

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<v Speaker 2>in our culture. I'm not sure there's anybody else like it, really,

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<v Speaker 2>when you think about what she meant to so many

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<v Speaker 2>millions of her fans.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, and her personality, if you read about her life,

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<v Speaker 12>and I have, she's been a fascinating figure to me

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<v Speaker 12>for a while, you know, as a woman, as a

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<v Speaker 12>very successful woman. But as a philanthropist, as someone who

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<v Speaker 12>cared so deeply about children, about her reading programs, someone

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<v Speaker 12>who gave so quietly to so many people. If you

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<v Speaker 12>read about her philanthropy and what she gave, in spite

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<v Speaker 12>of being just a really, or in addition of being

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<v Speaker 12>just a really nice human being, it's kind of astonishing.

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<v Speaker 12>She gave so much so very quietly to so many.

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<v Speaker 2>She really did. Her engagement in philanthropy, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>one of the charities that she was involved in was

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<v Speaker 2>providing millions of books to children. She had a heart

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<v Speaker 2>for children, and that always... was something that shone through

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<v Speaker 2>in all of her appearances, especially later in life. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Lori Buckhout, I want to thank you for coming back

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<v Speaker 2>here on the Scott Jennings Show. We're getting down to

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the wire today. You're running for Congress

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<v Speaker 2>in North Carolina's 1st Congressional District, and I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to leave the politics aside for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the hour, and we'll have you back maybe after Labor

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<v Speaker 2>Day to get into your campaign a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 2>we appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us. I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to wrap up here by going back over the

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<v Speaker 2>breaking news. Country music legend Dolly Parton passing away Peacefully,

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<v Speaker 2>her family says, at the age of 80 here on

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<v Speaker 2>August the 25th. She passed away in Nashville, Tennessee, 80

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<v Speaker 2>years old. Her nephew, Brian Seaver, shared a message on

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<v Speaker 2>social media, which if you go on your feed, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you can find it. An exact cause of death

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<v Speaker 2>was not released. Her team noted that she passed away

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<v Speaker 2>peacefully after some recent health challenges. She had dealt with

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<v Speaker 2>kidney stones, and she had spoken about some health difficulties

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<v Speaker 2>following the 2025 death. of her husband, Carl Dean. But

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<v Speaker 2>Dolly Parton, we'll miss you. 80 years old, she's passed away.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Jennings is here on Salem. We thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for listening, and we'll see you tomorrow. See my

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<v Speaker 2>den home Crickets sing in the fields nearby