1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 2: Well, you know, the founding of the State of Israel 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: is a miracle. Now you may have heard otherwise, and 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: you may have heard controversial things about the state and 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: her founding, but I want you to understand what a 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: miracle it was. So stay with me. 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: Let's take a break and hear a message from one 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: of our sponsors. Welcome to Out of Zion with Susan Michael, 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: an exploration of the Bible and the land of Israel, 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: from ancient Biblical sites to the story behind the stories. 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: Join Susan on a journey through the most exciting book 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: on the planet. Hit the subscribe button for future episodes 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: which will deepen your faith and bring the Bible to life. 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: And now here's our host, Susan Michael. 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: Well, welcome to today's Israel Answer episode. We are on 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: part four of Connecting the Bible to today. We have 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: so far discussed the development of Judaism since the Bible, 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: the development of Christianity since the Bible, that persistent evil 19 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: of anti Semitism, and today we're going to talk about 20 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: the founding of the modern State of Israel. I believe 21 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: you will agree with me what a miracle it is, 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: and it reflects a great God who can turn the 23 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: heart of the king, as the Bible tells us, whenever 24 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: he wants to to fulfill his purposes. So there's lots 25 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: of history I could tell, but I'm going to start 26 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: with the birth of the Zionist movement about two hundred 27 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: years ago. It was started by a Jewish journalist living 28 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: in Austria. He was a totally assimilated Jew. He didn't 29 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 2: celebrate any of the Jewish holidays or didn't go to synagogue, 30 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 2: and he thought really that the future of the Jewish 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: people was to be assimilated. And then he went to 32 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: France where he covered a court case that was taking place, 33 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: and it was a totally antisemitic court case on trumped 34 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: up charges against a Jewish soldier in the French forces. 35 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: And this journalist sat there and listened to this, and 36 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: he came to the realization there was only one hope 37 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: for the Jewish people, and that was it. They had 38 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: their own state. The journalist's name was Theodore Hertzel. He 39 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: went back to Austria and he wrote a book called 40 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: the Jewish State, and he laid out his proposal for 41 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: the creation of one. Now he was just a journalist. 42 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: He didn't have any movement behind him, no political following, 43 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: no political influence, but he had the idea. He saw 44 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: the need for it and wrote this book. And he 45 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: said that if the Jewish people had their own nation, 46 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: not only could they defend themselves and secure their own future, 47 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: but that from there they could combine their power, their will, power, 48 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: their intellect and be a blessing to the world. That's 49 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: the vision of Zionism. It's to be a blessing to 50 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: the world. Now, at the same time this was happening there, 51 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: something else had happened that I described last two weeks 52 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: ago on our episode about the growth of Christianity. That 53 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: was that the Bible had been translated into the everyday 54 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: language through the printing press. It had been distributed in 55 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: mass quantities, and now there were a whole new segment 56 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: of Christianity that was growing, and it was the Bible 57 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: based segment, or the evangelical segment of Christianity. And it 58 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: became so strong in England that and this movement taught 59 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: from the scriptures. They saw in the scriptures that God 60 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: had made all these promises to the Jewish people and 61 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: that one day they would be restored to their ancient homeland. 62 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: And so these early evangelical Christians in the UK were 63 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: called restorationists. They prayed for and they advocated for the 64 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: restoration of the Jewish people to their homeland. Well, it 65 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: just so happens there was one of these Bible believing 66 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: Christians in Austria, where Theodore Hertzel lived, who had done 67 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: a complete study of the Book of Daniel, and he 68 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: had come to the conclusion that eighteen ninety seven was 69 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: a key year in the return of the Jews to 70 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: their ancient homeland. It was in the late eighteen hundreds 71 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: that Theodore Hertzel had just written his book. And this 72 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: evangelical Christian who was a serving in the British Foreign Service, 73 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: he was a chaplain in the British embassy in Vienna, Austria. 74 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: He's walking down the street and he looks in the 75 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: storefront of a bookstore and he sees this new book 76 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: by this Jewish journalist called The Jewish State. He buys 77 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: a copy, goes straight home, reads it cover to cover, 78 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: and then he goes to look for and find Theodore Hertzel. 79 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: When he does, he knocks on his door. Theodore Hertzel 80 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: opens the door and this British chaplain says to him, 81 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: I have been waiting for you. You are the Moses 82 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: that are going to lead the Jewish people home. And 83 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: this is the beginning of the story of a really 84 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: amazing friendship between this total assimilated and secular Jewish journalists 85 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: and this Bible believing, evangelical, restorationist Christian chaplain of the 86 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: British Foreign Service. And together they beat the drums, and 87 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: they got before world leaders, and they started a movement 88 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: in support of the Jewish return to the homeland. And yes, 89 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: in eighteen ninety seven, Theodore Herzel organized the very first 90 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: Zionist Congress, and at that congress he referred to the 91 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: few Christians that were in the audience, referred to them 92 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: as Christian Zionists. Now, while all of this is taking 93 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: place within Judaism and within Christianity, there was something else 94 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: amazing taking place that, honestly, I don't think the state 95 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: of Israel would have ever been born had this not happened. 96 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: That was that the great and the final Islamic Empire 97 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: called the Ottoman Empire, was beginning to weaken and to decline, 98 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: and they made the fatal mistake of siding with the 99 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: Germans in World War One, and they lost, and so 100 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 2: the Ottoman Empire then was broken up. It was over, 101 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: It had all come to an end. And the Allied forces, 102 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: which were the British, the French, and the Italians, with 103 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: some support from the Russians, but they broke up the 104 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: Ottoman Empire and they came up with a plan to 105 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: divide it up into smaller nation states to serve the 106 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: indigenous peoples of those various areas of the old Ottoman Empire. 107 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 2: So what does this mean. This means that before World 108 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 2: War One, the tire North Africa, Middle East, up into 109 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: Turkey and even into Asia Minor was all one empire. 110 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: And in the very middle of it was the ancient 111 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: land of Canaan, the land of Judaea and Samaria, the 112 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: land that Jesus had lived in, the land we call 113 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: today Israel, was right there in the heart of this 114 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: huge empire. If you had been a Christian in the 115 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: late seventeen hundreds eighteen hundreds, would you have believed that 116 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 2: the Ottoman Empire would be broken up, that after thirteen 117 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: hundred years of Islamic rule in that area, that it 118 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: would be free for a Jewish state to be set up. 119 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: That would take a lot of faith if you asked me, 120 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: But there were Christians that were praying for just that 121 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: to happen, And for hundreds of years Christians were praying for, 122 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: preaching about and advocating for the restoration of the Jewish 123 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: people to their homeland. And the breakup of the Ottoman 124 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: Empire not only set into place the legal context for 125 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: the state of Israel to be formed, but actually it 126 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: formed every nation state we have in the Middle East today, 127 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: every single one of them. They did not exist before 128 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: World War One. So not only is Israel's founding legal 129 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: and legitimate, it's the same legal founding that every other 130 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 2: country in the Middle East is based on. Just name it, 131 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 2: whether it's Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, 132 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 2: name it. It all has the same legal foundation. So 133 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 2: you have to understand the battle against Israel today is 134 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: not really about Palestinian homes or Palestinian homeland. That's all 135 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: kind of a recent invention to fight against Israel. Israel 136 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: has several things against it in this story. Number one 137 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: is there was something else that happened after the breakup 138 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: of the Ottoman Empire, you must understand that was that 139 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: there became an Islamic reaction to it, a fight against it, 140 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: and a fight to re establish the Islamic Empire, and 141 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: that is called the Caliphate. And that movement is started 142 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: by the Muslim Brotherhood. They were formed in Egypt in 143 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty eight, and that was to react against this breakup. 144 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: And so before you know it, as soon as Israel 145 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: is founded Jewish sovereignty over land that had been Islamic, 146 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: there was an Islamic push against it. But today, moving 147 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 2: forward seventy years, I mean, Israel is over seventy years old. 148 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: Now what's the big deal? Because our world is moving 149 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: away from nationalism to globalism. So Israel was formed because 150 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: of a wave of nationalism. You know, not only did 151 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: that nationalism break up the Ottoman Empire into all these 152 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: little nation states, it broke up the great British Empire. 153 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: Today it's about national sovereignty and there's a push against 154 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: it now by a whole movement of globalism. Also today 155 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: there is a movement of secularism. And Israel was set 156 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: up to be a Jewish state. It was for the 157 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: Jewish people, and it's Jewish sovereignty over this land and 158 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: a secular world hates that. They hate to think that 159 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: America could be a Christian nation, and they hate to 160 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: think that Israel could be a Jewish nation. The other 161 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 2: thing against Israel is the whole move today of moral relativism. 162 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: And let me tell you, the moral relativists do not 163 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: like knowing that there are ten commandments, and they don't 164 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: like the people that gave us the Ten Commandments. So 165 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: this just is a little snippet today to help you 166 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: understand some of the forces that were taking place that 167 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: helped bring about the founding of the state of Israel. 168 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: And to understand, it was totally a legal founding carried 169 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: on by the nations, and it was approved by the 170 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: United Nations even but the fight against Israel is because 171 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: of these other movements of Islamic movements, or global secularism 172 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: and moral relativism that do not like Israel and continually 173 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: fight against her. So I hope that this little summary 174 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: of many, many years of history and maybe a little 175 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 2: oversimplification of it helps you understand though the big picture 176 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: in Israel's founding. We're going to talk next week with 177 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: you about the modern state of Israel. So I'll see 178 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: you back here and until then, God Bless, and I 179 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: want to offer you a free download. We have a 180 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: download ten reasons to Stand with Israel, and actually it's 181 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: ten reasons why Christians should stand with Israel. 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