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Speaker 6: All Right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is

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Speaker 6: July eighth, and we are in the midst of the

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Speaker 6: preliminary hearing week, and as the schedule goes, they're taking

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Speaker 4: It is going on. The world has not stopped.

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Speaker 6: Nope, to say the least, even though it feels like

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Speaker 4: So but it is but actually, in fact, more news

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of stories that I think a mix

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Speaker 4: of ones Charlie would have found very important, like with Iran,

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Speaker 4: and also ones he would have found pretty entertaining. You know,

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Speaker 6: We have a great series of guests today, by the way,

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Speaker 6: So just a total amazing run of show today. Sean,

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Speaker 6: welcome back to the show, my friend.

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Speaker 7: Good to be back.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: So listen, you know you're welcome back. You.

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Speaker 6: You are one of those people if you say I

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Speaker 6: Turning point, staff and students are out on the the

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Speaker 4: You should check it out.

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Speaker 5: Come back when we're doing this. That's the way this works.

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Speaker 4: That's clearly what happened. And instead people are I mean,

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Speaker 8: She's not representative of the internet or everyone is all.

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Speaker 5: Well said, well said? All right, uh Sean.

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Speaker 6: Because I know you and I Blake included, we're skeptical

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Speaker 4: I don't want to I'm not sure I I'm ready

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Speaker 6: great to see you, my friend, Hey, Andrew. So I

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Speaker 6: And I completely respect that you are not Senator McConnell.

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Speaker 6: Your politics are different. You have a great long history

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Speaker 6: with him, and he means a lot to you on

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Speaker 6: And so I'm heartened as well to hear that he's

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Speaker 6: doing better on the mend. I mean, I know it's

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Speaker 6: no secret that he has been kind of going through

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Speaker 6: a series of health scares in recent years, and he's

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Speaker 6: getting older, he's getting up there. Does this did you

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Speaker 6: get any inside or do you know anything about this?

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Speaker 6: Just as far as kind of the future for him

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Speaker 6: or how that will work. Is the plan is still

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Speaker 6: to kind of serve out the term.

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Speaker 9: Good question.

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Speaker 3: I think also for context, we should tell people about

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Speaker 3: Kentucky politics.

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Speaker 9: McConnell is retiring. Was his term is up at the

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Speaker 9: end of this year. He announced, you know, way back

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Speaker 9: last year he wasn't running again.

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Speaker 3: There was a primary. The Republican won the primary, named

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Speaker 3: Andy Barr. He'll most likely replace McConnell in November. So

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Speaker 3: at the end of this term, McConnell has done his career,

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Speaker 3: will be over, he'll have been the longest serving senator

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Speaker 3: in Kentucky history.

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Speaker 9: It's a great achievement.

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Speaker 3: Right now, as far as I know, he plans to

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Speaker 3: continue to serve out his term. I didn't ask him

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Speaker 3: specifically about that, Andrew, but as far as I know,

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Speaker 3: he intends to.

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Speaker 9: Serve out his term.

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Speaker 3: I think in Kentucky, if you get past a certain

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Speaker 3: date in August, if there were to be a vacancy,

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Speaker 3: they would just have the election in November and then

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Speaker 3: the term would you know, the new senator would take

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Speaker 3: over in January anyway, So I don't really have anything

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Speaker 3: to say about it other than you know, he seemed

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Speaker 3: news and the issues of the day, which sounded to

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Speaker 3: as soon as he's able to be so.

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Speaker 6: And Scott, I just want to just give you, just,

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Speaker 6: you would be willing to step into the breach and

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Speaker 6: say something true and to do it fearlessly, even though

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Speaker 5: And I love that.

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Speaker 6: About you because my experience with you and my friendship

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Speaker 6: with you has been that you are a fear truth teller.

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Speaker 6: Even if I disagree with you on something or whatever.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying I do. I'm just saying it doesn't

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Speaker 6: matter to you. You're gonna speak what you believe to

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Speaker 6: be the truth, and you're gonna do it fearlessly. And

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Speaker 6: you've been excellent on the whole Charlie thing as well,

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Speaker 6: and the incoming that we've had, and you know, all

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Speaker 6: these crazies, any conspiracy theories, and the attacks on Erica

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Speaker 6: and the attacks on the ORG, and you know, turning

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Speaker 6: their attention now on.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what is it, Ben.

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Speaker 6: Shapiro's the new thing this morning, But just explain from

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Speaker 6: your vantage point. You know, I don't talk to you

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Speaker 6: every day, your vantage point, what you're seeing out there.

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Speaker 6: I keep getting a lot of people that are texting

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Speaker 6: me saying the tide has turned. I think the evidence

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Speaker 6: has been overwhelming. I've seen people truth tellers on social

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Speaker 6: media get louder and more bold.

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Speaker 5: What has it been like from your POV?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I'm enormously frustrated for you and

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Speaker 3: for the Turning Point team because of what you have

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Speaker 3: to deal with and I'm enormously frustrated and frankly angry

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Speaker 3: for Erica because the things that are said and the

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Speaker 3: people who are doing it for self aggrandizement, purposes, for monetization, purposes,

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Speaker 3: for engagement, farming or whatever.

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Speaker 9: I just think it's awful what they have done.

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Speaker 3: So I get I get very you know, emotionally frustrated

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Speaker 3: on your behalf, and I'm not the one that has

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Speaker 3: to deal with it every single day. I think this

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Speaker 3: hearing this week from my perspective, though, has sort of

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Speaker 3: you know, the conspiracy theorists and the people who've been

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Speaker 3: trying to create false narratives.

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Speaker 9: I mean, they've kind of run into a brick wall

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Speaker 9: this week.

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Speaker 3: And because evidence is evidence, testimony is testimony, facts are facts,

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Speaker 3: and when those things show up and blow up your

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Speaker 3: conspiracy theories, I think it's quite embarrassing for these people.

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Speaker 3: So do I think that you're ever going to get

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Speaker 3: rid of all these people who are, you know, trying

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Speaker 3: to do what they do for their own, you know,

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Speaker 3: personal reasons.

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Speaker 12: No.

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Speaker 3: But I think every rational person out there is looking

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Speaker 3: at the facts and the evidence and saying, Okay, we

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Speaker 3: know the truth, we know what happened, and this process

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Speaker 3: is now playing out as it should in a court

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Speaker 3: of law, and you know that's what you're dealing with.

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Speaker 3: You got a court of law where facts matter, and

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Speaker 3: you've got this court of social media where nothing matters.

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Speaker 3: And you all are are now getting the facts out

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Speaker 3: in a venue where conspiracy theories have no quarter, only

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Speaker 3: facts do. And I think that's that's helping turn the tide.

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Speaker 9: I tend to agree with that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And we have this great clip from Don Junior

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Speaker 6: I think is really representative. I mean he was in

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Speaker 6: the courtroom with Erica and her you know, and robing Kathy,

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Speaker 6: Charlie's parents, and I thought it was a beautiful that

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Speaker 6: he decided to go. I mean, Don is extraordinarily busy.

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Speaker 6: People probably don't fully realize just how busy his life.

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Speaker 6: He dedicated the better part of this week to go

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Speaker 6: be in Utah with Erica, and this is what he

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Speaker 6: told Fox News this morning, Top thirty two.

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Speaker 7: I haven't been that vocal because I haven't known what's

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Speaker 7: real and what's not. But having literally been there in

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Speaker 7: the room seen the evidence with my own eyes, you know,

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Speaker 7: it's very clear to me that Tyler Robinson will be

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Speaker 7: found guilty.

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Speaker 6: I think that's representative a lot of people. Scott, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 6: go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I saw his interview as well, and

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Speaker 3: I thought it was so great that he went and

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Speaker 3: then made that statement because a lot of people listen

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Speaker 3: to Donald Trump Junior and when he speaks and does

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Speaker 3: so with such clarity. You know, hopefully all the people

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Speaker 3: that see the things that's being served to them by

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Speaker 3: their algorithm understand that.

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Speaker 9: You know, this is a credible voice.

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Speaker 3: Someone who loved Charlie took the time to go and

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Speaker 3: review what was happening in person, and he's giving you

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Speaker 3: an actual report. And I think that's really you know,

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Speaker 3: what's unfortunate. Here is a lot of people who are

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Speaker 3: making a lot of money for themselves and a lot

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Speaker 3: of attention for themselves.

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Speaker 9: They have no idea what the facts are. They're not

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Speaker 9: in the courtroom.

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Speaker 3: All they have are conspiracy theories and lies and things

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Speaker 3: that further a narrative that is for them. And then

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Speaker 3: you have Donald Trump Junior and others going to the

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Speaker 3: courtroom saying, here are the facts.

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Speaker 9: I'm reporting them to you.

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Speaker 3: I think the people who are out peddling the conspiracy

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Speaker 3: theories are going to be outraged by this. And they're

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Speaker 3: going to last shout and they're going to say mean

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Speaker 3: things about it. But Donald Trump Junior did what I

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Speaker 3: think any good friend would do, and that's to say

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Speaker 3: I wanted to get the facts for myself.

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Speaker 9: I saw them. I'm telling you what they are, and

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Speaker 9: it's clear to me that Tyler Robinson is the murder.

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Speaker 3: That is as clear and factual as you can be

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Speaker 3: based on witnessing in the courtroom what's happening. And I

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Speaker 3: would hope most people would take his word for that

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Speaker 3: versus some of these lunatics on the internet.

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Speaker 5: I totally agree. Scott. You know, I'm tempted to ask

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Speaker 5: you one last.

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Speaker 6: Question about Graham Plattner if you have any top line thoughts.

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Speaker 6: We haven't got there yet, but the floor's yours if

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Speaker 6: you want.

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Speaker 3: You know, here's what I am marveling at the Party

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Speaker 3: of Democracy Democrats.

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Speaker 9: They're trying to throw a Platiner out.

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Speaker 3: He won a primary, and ninety eight percent of what

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Speaker 3: we know about Graham Platner was already known when he

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Speaker 3: won his primary. People voted. It's just like Biden, you know,

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Speaker 3: people voted for Biden, then they came along and threw

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Speaker 3: him out too. I mean we're lectured by the Party

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Speaker 3: of Democra all the time. There's no democracy in the

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Speaker 3: Democratic Party right now. The only thing that happened was

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Speaker 3: is that they all got behind a scumbag. They knew

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Speaker 3: they got behind a scumbag, and his poll numbers have

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Speaker 3: now fallen to the point where he's no longer viable.

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Speaker 9: I don't I mean Graham Plattner.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's apparently some near do well, you know,

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Speaker 3: fake oyster farmer who works for his mom.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Why what else he has to do with himself except

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Speaker 3: hang on for this nomination.

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Speaker 9: I guess we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 6: Today as well, said Scott. There's a reason CNN keeps

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Speaker 6: you on. I will tell you, Scott, go get ready

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Speaker 6: for your own show. Great to have you. Thank you

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Speaker 6: for being a good friend and for standing by Charlie

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Speaker 6: and the truth and your other good friend Mitch McConnell,

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Speaker 6: which you know, I think that's actually really commendable. We

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Speaker 6: could talk about his policies some other day. We could

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Speaker 6: disagree with birth Yeah no, but have a great show today, Scott,

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Speaker 6: and I will talk to you soon, my friend.

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Speaker 9: Thanks Andrew. Good to see your brother take care guys.

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Speaker 4: to have been realizing over the course of time they

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Speaker 4: think this guy is going to lose, and so a

659
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Speaker 4: new hit piece or new attack piece has just dropped

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Speaker 4: on Platner. I believe it was published by Politico had

661
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Speaker 4: it first. And it's another one of his girlfriends. We've

662
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Speaker 4: already had a text from other girlfriends. This is another

663
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Speaker 4: girlfriend who claimed that about I want to say, six

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Speaker 4: years ago, that he entered her house by force and

665
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Speaker 4: forced himself on her sexually, and that she's concealed it

666
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Speaker 4: until now. But she has text messages where she's warning

667
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Speaker 4: her friends about Platner. And so now they're lining up

668
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Speaker 4: all of the Democrats. Rocanna has retracted his endorsement. Studies

669
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Speaker 4: should drop out. Bernie Sanders has okay, well.

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Speaker 5: Throw him out.

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Speaker 6: Image please, it's I mean it's Shumer, Jill Brand, Pocahontas,

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Speaker 6: Ruben Diego, Okay, Ruben methinks those who live in glass

673
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Speaker 6: houses shouldn't throw stones. Mister Diego, you got Mark Kelly.

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Speaker 6: I mean there's a ton of them. I mean they all,

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Speaker 6: just all of them. I mean, it's like the memo

676
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Speaker 6: went out. This is what's that's literally what it is.

677
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Speaker 6: The memo clearly went out. Where we've seen this with the.

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Speaker 4: Democrats, they'll have that cascade. They don't split into a

679
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Speaker 4: never Trump and always Trump camp. The way you'll see

680
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Speaker 4: in the GPA they are they had this guy, they

681
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Speaker 4: were lining up behind him, even though he seemed disgusting.

682
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Speaker 4: And now they've suddenly decided this guy is too dangerous.

683
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Speaker 4: We're going to lose a winnable seat. Get him out.

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Speaker 4: This attack at this attack story almost certainly came from Democrats.

685
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Speaker 4: It's not Republican opo. And there's even threats that more

686
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Speaker 4: is going to drop. But the and it's all perfectly

687
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Speaker 4: timed because they want to get him out right now,

688
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: because if they get him out right now, they can

689
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Speaker 4: basically put up a new candidate, some random flunky, and

690
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Speaker 4: then they probably think they can beat Susan Collins with

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Speaker 4: a warm body as long as it's not Grand Platner.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's how it works.

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Speaker 6: Grand Platner is now persona non grata with the group

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Speaker 6: of people that embraced him, even though there have been

695
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Speaker 6: allegations for a long time. And and by the way,

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Speaker 6: I love the fake oyster farmer thing. I got to

697
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Speaker 6: hit this because it's too good. Graham Platner. They say

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Speaker 6: he's a he's just a working class maner oyster farmer.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no. His like family is very wealthy.

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Speaker 6: His mom owns a high end restaurant, and I believe

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Speaker 6: like kind of a hotel or bed and breakfast or

702
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Speaker 6: something that's attached to it, but the details on that

703
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Speaker 6: or whatever, the high end restaurant. So when he's an

704
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Speaker 6: oyster farmer, he's literally a hobbyist. He's a hobbyist. And

705
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Speaker 6: guess how much he pays himself from his own business.

706
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Speaker 5: Zero? Do you know why he doesn't.

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Speaker 6: Pay himself anything from his own business because it makes

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Speaker 6: no money because he you know, well that too, but

709
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Speaker 6: he's he has one client over five thousand, that's his

710
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 6: mom's restaurant. But I will tell you the other reason

711
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Speaker 6: is because he's getting VA benefits he's getting he's getting

712
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Speaker 6: a over it's almost like seventy thousand dollars a year

713
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Speaker 6: tax free as long as he doesn't make more money.

714
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Speaker 6: So he doesn't pay himself anything from the business. He's

715
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Speaker 6: a hobbyist because he's got one client essentially, and that's

716
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Speaker 6: his mommy. And I think his his family's like famous

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Speaker 6: architect textures, architects, architecturs. I was thinking about a joke

718
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Speaker 6: in my head, sorry, and it screwed me up. Architects anyways,

719
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Speaker 6: So this is he's a total joke, and he's a

720
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Speaker 6: total phony, and he's a fraud, and he's been pulling

721
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Speaker 6: the wool over everybody's eyes because he, you know, wears

722
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Speaker 6: like flannel shirts and he's got a big Walrus mustache.

723
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Speaker 5: And that's what they want.

724
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Speaker 6: They want a guy who is write coded, who says

725
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Speaker 6: really radical things. That's essentially the model to beat a Republican.

726
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Speaker 6: You see, you see this all over the place where

727
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 6: they this is that the Tim Waltz playbook, right, Like,

728
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Speaker 6: let's go put him out with a shotgun and some

729
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 6: camo and act like he's just one of us.

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Speaker 5: He's one of the boys.

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Speaker 6: In truth, he's a total flaming ratic, left wing lunatic.

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Speaker 6: You see that in Minnesota, you see that in Grand

733
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Speaker 6: Platner in Maine.

734
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Speaker 5: And that's the model.

735
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Speaker 6: Anybody that hassan Piker is like, yeah, put him up

736
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 6: there is probably a degenerate person who probably does awful

737
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Speaker 6: things and who probably wants to destroy the country.

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Speaker 5: That's their model. That's their model.

739
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Speaker 6: And guess what, the Democrats are all complicit in this

740
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 6: because they pushed him and pushed him and pushed him.

741
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Speaker 6: They excused, they ignored, they gave license to this, They

742
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Speaker 6: created the permission structure, and then when the polling fell,

743
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 6: they finally decided, Oh, we're not gonna get the power

744
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Speaker 6: that we thought we were gonna get politically, and so

745
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 6: we're gonna toss him overboard because there are a bunch

746
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Speaker 6: of frauds and phonies, an absolute, absolute indictment of the

747
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Speaker 6: moral bankruptcy of the Democrat Party. And these are all

748
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Speaker 6: the same people, by the way, that say that this,

749
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Speaker 6: you know, eging Carol is a reason that Donald Trump

750
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Speaker 6: should be thrown out and all this stuff. Well, they

751
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 6: were silent until the polling dropped for grand Plattner, Eging

752
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Speaker 6: Carrol's another fraud.

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Speaker 4: They yeah, it's deeper. It's not even just that he's

754
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: a fraud. It's like it gets at the Democrats have

755
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 4: realized they've been losing the white working class for ages

756
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 4: because they are a party that hates white men, straight

757
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Speaker 4: white men, and they're always desperate to get them back,

758
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Speaker 4: and they very easily fall for a person like grand

759
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: Platner because he's the kind of guy that a lot

760
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Speaker 4: of their voters fall for. Ye, these disgusting phonies, these

761
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Speaker 4: rakish guys, these damaged guys, and they think I can

762
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Speaker 4: fix him, and now the entire party is paying the price.

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Speaker 4: It's entertaining to watch. I'm glad he's not in our camp.

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Speaker 5: That's Cam Higbee. Cam, welcome back to the show, my friend.

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Speaker 5: Good to see you.

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Speaker 10: Hey, thanks for having me, And I appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I have. We haven't talked actually much. We

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Speaker 6: texted briefly last night we were talking about coming on

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Speaker 6: the show. But I've been watching you just kind of

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Speaker 6: be so loud and proud and fighting back some of

795
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Speaker 6: the crazies here, and you know, you have my appreciation,

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Speaker 6: and it just seems like you've taken it upon yourself

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Speaker 6: and I really, I really admire that you sent me.

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Speaker 6: This clip is an example of what we're up against here.

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Speaker 6: When confronting real evidence in the court of law about

800
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Speaker 6: Tyler Robinson, it just doesn't seem to even be able

801
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Speaker 6: to It doesn't even go through for some of these people,

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Speaker 6: not thirty five.

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Speaker 13: It genuinely blows my mind that people still believe that

804
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Speaker 13: Tyler Robinson is fully responsible for Charlie Kirk's assassination. Truly,

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Speaker 13: like the people that believe that narrative, I have to

806
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Speaker 13: believe that they have just not done their own research,

807
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Speaker 13: because how how can you believe the narrative that they

808
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Speaker 13: are pushing. It makes no sense in any type of

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Speaker 13: world ever, it makes no logical sense.

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Speaker 5: What are we dealing with here?

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Speaker 10: Cam, I mean, it's total brainwashing. It's like, we've got

812
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Speaker 10: video of the guy on the campus. We've got his

813
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Speaker 10: DNA on the screwdriver, on the blanket the gun was

814
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Speaker 10: covered in. We've got him placed on the roof. We've

815
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Speaker 10: got him arriving in his vehicle to the campus. We've

816
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Speaker 10: got him on the campus twice before it happened during

817
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Speaker 10: and once after. I believe the evidence that Tyler Robinson

818
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Speaker 10: is the shooter is mountainous.

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Speaker 6: By the way, the defense is even admitting he turned

820
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Speaker 6: himself in when they didn't even know.

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Speaker 5: They didn't have a name for the suspect.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they had a person of interest, they had no

823
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Speaker 4: named suspect, and it's almost like they're setting they're already

824
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Speaker 4: setting the stage for you should show mercy on Tyler

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Speaker 4: Robinson because he cooperated with the process by turning himself

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Speaker 4: in before he was a name suspect. And meanwhile, you

827
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Speaker 4: have people online who are going to seize on everything.

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Speaker 4: A very popular one now seems to be it was

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Speaker 4: actually Lance Twiggs who did it?

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Speaker 5: Right? Anyone else to me about that last?

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Speaker 4: And I just said, you know, at a minimum, if

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Speaker 4: it's Lance Twigs, that just means Tyler Robinson colluded with

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Speaker 4: him in this murder. And at least we have one

834
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Speaker 4: of them.

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Speaker 5: Well exactly.

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Speaker 6: So let's go through some of these these conspiracy theories

837
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Speaker 6: that are popping up in real time. They're getting swatted

838
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Speaker 6: down pretty pretty aggressively, which I'm it's fun to see.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about this bullet that was found elsewhere. It

840
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Speaker 6: was an unused bullet, right, unspent bullet thirty.

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Speaker 2: Seven, the unfired bullet that you refer to.

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Speaker 14: Is your understanding that that bullet was accounted for?

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Speaker 12: That's my recollection, Yes, okay, And.

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Speaker 14: It possibly belonged to an officer that could have maybe

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Speaker 14: been clearing his weapon.

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Speaker 12: Yes, that was that was That's what I recall being

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Speaker 12: told about that particular item.

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Speaker 14: Yes, when you said that it was possible that that

849
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Speaker 14: round was from an officer clearing his weapon, what exactly

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Speaker 14: do you mean by that?

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Speaker 12: A stand of practice and autopoman is to carry a

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Speaker 12: roy fool cruise already, which is sorry, we carry our

853
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Speaker 12: rifles in a situation which is called cruise already.

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Speaker 14: What does that mean?

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Speaker 12: Means we don't have a round chambered. So if an

856
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Speaker 12: officer deployed with his rifle, he would chamber around once

857
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Speaker 12: he had done whatever task it was that he was doing.

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Speaker 12: In order to put that weapon back, he would eject

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Speaker 12: the magazine and eject the round. Sometimes in doing so,

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Speaker 12: rounds are dropped till not account it for.

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Speaker 6: So it sounds pretty simple camp. Somebody on camp is

862
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Speaker 6: probably double racked. They're gun to get cruiser ready, and

863
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Speaker 6: it was a crazy chaotic scene and they didn't collect

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Speaker 6: the bolt they're supposed to. But accidents do happen.

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Speaker 10: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean there's a lot going on.

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Speaker 10: I mean you can just observe from the footage. Right

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Speaker 10: after the shot was fired, everybody is running around and

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Speaker 10: then the police are chasing down potential suspects. The initial

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Speaker 10: guy came forward until he did it, and then they

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Speaker 10: find out, oh, maybe it was somebody else that was

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Speaker 10: up on the roof of this other building, and just

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00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 10: like you said, they cruise without around in the chamber.

873
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 10: So if you've chambered around because you're ready to fight

874
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 10: somebody because there's just been a shot fired, you're going

875
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 10: to eject that so it can be put back in

876
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 10: the vehicle for procedure afterwards. If you eject around and

877
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 10: it kind of flies out and you miss where it landed,

878
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 10: it's perfectly plausible justification or explanation for how a straight

879
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 10: round could have landed on the ground. I mean, there

880
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 10: were plenty of armed people there, the good guys, right so.

881
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 10: And the other thing that I noticed too is people

882
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 10: were actually taking out of context the officer's testimony about

883
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 10: when he went up on the roof and he said,

884
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 10: it is just a little sidebar when he went up

885
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 10: on the roof and he said, I don't think that

886
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 10: we've got our guy, or we don't have the right guy,

887
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 10: or whatever it was, because that initial guy came forward

888
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 10: and said I'm the one who did it. I'm the

889
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 10: one who did it, and they detained him. But it

890
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 10: turns out that he wasn't the one who did it.

891
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 10: I forget his name.

892
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 6: George George Z talking about by the way, on the

893
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 6: George Zen thing. I just want people to know this.

894
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 6: I early days, I was like, what the hell is this?

895
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I I asked around, I was like what

896
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 6: because this is crazy to me too. And basically this

897
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 6: guy was a very well known psychopath local league. Yet

898
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 6: believe he was banned. They tried to keep him out

899
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 6: of these GOP meetings. I believe that certain high profile

900
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 6: politicians in the state basically said, this guy's gonna get

901
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 6: somebody killed because he's such a loon.

902
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 5: And I think they arrested him.

903
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 6: They found some you know, child stuff right on his

904
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 6: on his computer.

905
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 5: Whatever.

906
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 6: The point is, he was a known bad actor, crazy

907
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 6: person in Utah for years. Okay, next one cam, So

908
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 6: this is I had the team pull just some random

909
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 6: DNA conspiracy tweet. This one's from Diligent Dennis in FBI

910
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 6: DNA examiner says DNA on Screwdriver and tow were almost

911
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 6: entirely Lance Twigs only five percent Tyler Robinson to no

912
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 6: One on one to Twigs ninety five percent and the

913
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 6: other was eleven percent Tyler Robinson an eighty nine percent

914
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 6: Lance Twigs. DNA is Twigs the real assassin. Okay, let's

915
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 6: deal with that one. Here is is a clip where

916
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 6: the cross examination of this DNA specialist from the FBI,

917
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 6: so the state cross examines her thirty eight.

918
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 15: You testified about exhibit seven and eight that they both

919
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 15: had mixtures. Excuse me, he has items seven and eight

920
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 15: and you're testing of these items that they both had mixtures,

921
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 15: and you stayed, I want to make sure I understood this.

922
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 15: You stated, I believe that the minor sample, the minor contributor,

923
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 15: was less than twenty percent, and that it was actually

924
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 15: five percent. The ratio was five percent to ninety five.

925
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: Percent for one of the samples.

926
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 15: Yes you remember that?

927
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 12: Yes?

928
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 15: Does that mean the five percent was from Twigs and

929
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 15: the ninety five percent that ninety five percent is assumed

930
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 15: from the defend the Robinson.

931
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 16: When I calculate the statistic, twigs is DNA profile aligned

932
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 16: with the five percent contributor and mister Robinson's DNA profile

933
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 16: aligned better with the ninety five percent contributor.

934
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 15: Okay, same question with regard to eight. I think you

935
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 15: said the ratio was eleven percent from the minor and

936
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 15: eighty nine percent from the major. Is that Twigs being

937
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 15: the eleven percent and Robinson being the eighty nine percent.

938
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 16: Yes, Twigs better onliged with eleven percent contributor and mister

939
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 16: Robinson better aligned with that seventy nine percent contributor.

940
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 5: All right, so there you go.

941
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 6: That's on cross put up Liz Wheeler's tweet just so

942
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 6: we can see it. DNA on the talent screwdriver, Lance

943
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 6: Twigs five percent, Tyler Robinson ninety five percent, Lance Twigs

944
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 6: eleven percent, Tyler Robinson.

945
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 5: Eighty nine percent. So I don't know. I don't even

946
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 5: know what they're doing here at CAB. Do you have

947
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 5: thoughts we're doing what they've always done.

948
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 4: They're making stuff up.

949
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 10: They the trial and they take it out of context

950
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 10: and they try to spin a certain way. Same thing

951
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 10: that I was just talking about. They tried to say

952
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 10: that when he said they don't have the right guy,

953
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 10: that he was actually talking about Tyler Robinson, not Zen.

954
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 10: And they've done this with a number of things, including

955
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 10: the compilation. They said that there's no footage of the

956
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 10: shop being fired or of the shooting, when they were

957
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 10: just talking about one specific exhibit. We don't necessarily know

958
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 10: if that exists yet, but doesn't really matter either. There's

959
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 10: almost never footage of the murder. There wasn't. When Carmelo

960
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 10: Anthony got killed, there was no footage of him a right,

961
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 10: when when Austin Metcalf got killed, there was no footage

962
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 10: of Carmelo Anthony stabbing him, but everybody still believed it,

963
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 10: and the same people, by the way.

964
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's such a good point.

965
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 4: You rarely have video of a murder, so you rarely

966
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 4: have as much evidence as we have been fortunate enough

967
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 4: to collect in this case of a confession of DNA

968
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: of video footage of them at the scene of.

969
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 5: But he's just a patsy. He's a patsy.

970
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 6: And you know why I know this cam because his

971
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 6: different legs bend in the video.

972
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 5: All right, so let's look at this.

973
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 6: This is the bending of the knee one which is

974
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 6: which is a lot of fun SOT thirty nine. This

975
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 6: is actually the surveillance footage that was presented at court,

976
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 6: this massive, massive, bombshell footage of Tyler Robinson. Once he

977
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 6: comes back in the long pants and he's different legs

978
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 6: are bending, I guess UHT thirty nine.

979
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 12: He heads out of the pucking garage on foot into

980
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 12: the campus and actually goes to the quad area of

981
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 12: the campus. At that time, he makes contact with some

982
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 12: representatives from TPUSA, like Quad Area. Sorry, the amphitheater is

983
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 12: what I've previously referred it to, all right, all.

984
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 6: Right, so that was actually a different one. I apologize.

985
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 6: This is the referencing the makes contact with Turning Point.

986
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 6: I was another big one I saw online. I'll handle

987
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 6: this camp. But you've been at some of our tabling

988
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 6: events you've tabled. When you're setting up, there are dozens

989
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 6: of students, volunteers, a few staffers, the tech people setting up,

990
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 6: they're there. You can just walk right up to them

991
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 6: and say, hey, how you doing? What times the events start?

992
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 6: And that's apparently what happened here? Does this shock? Does

993
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 6: this prove there was coordination between Tyler Robinson, who they

994
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 6: say didn't do it, by the way, and Turning Point staff.

995
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 10: When I table, I get people that come up to

996
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 10: me and they start trying to debate me while I'm

997
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 10: setting up. So like, definitely half the time when those

998
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 10: people are kind of just around you in the setup

999
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 10: phase and I set up my own tables with whoever

1000
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 10: I'm with, whether it's Turning Point people or my people

1001
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 10: or whatever, people just come up all the time, and

1002
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 10: most of the time you don't agree with those people.

1003
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 10: Most of the time. Those people are not conservatives who

1004
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 10: just want to root you on, you know, so it

1005
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 10: doesn't surprise me at all. Anyone can just walk up

1006
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 10: at any time. It's a public campus where you know

1007
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 10: that Tyler Robinson was moving around the campus all day.

1008
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: Everything about it is setting up as you said, people

1009
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 4: get tethered to their particular weird theories. Everything sets up

1010
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: as you would expect a person who wants to do

1011
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 4: a shooting. He shows up the first time to confirm

1012
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: the event is on, make sure find out what time

1013
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 4: it's all going to start, shows up a second time

1014
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 4: to scope out where he plans to commit the crime,

1015
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: shows up a third time to commit the crime, shows

1016
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: up a fourth time to try and retrieve evidence. All

1017
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 4: of it is laid out very clearly, and instead some

1018
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 4: people are I've said earlier in the show cam, I

1019
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 4: think some people they really are just motivated by an

1020
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 4: intense desire to see the killer get away with it.

1021
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 4: I don't feel like they're looking for truth when they

1022
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: decide to fixate on, Oh, who's this turning point person

1023
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 4: that the suspects spoke with. We better find them and

1024
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 4: harass them. I suspect police know who they spoke with.

1025
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: I suspect police have spoken to them. I suspect that

1026
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 4: evidence will be presented at the trial, and I suspect

1027
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 4: it will have nothing to do with any theories people

1028
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 4: come up.

1029
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 5: With ice time.

1030
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 6: I genuinely find this one, you know, ridiculous, but they're

1031
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 6: going to hook their you know, claws into it.

1032
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 5: Anyways. Okay, this is another one that so did you

1033
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 5: want to say anything else? Sorry? Sorry? Camp.

1034
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 10: A lot of times the people around the tables too,

1035
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 10: are like college chapter people. I mean, it's not like

1036
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 10: you know, direct report to you Andrew.

1037
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 4: That only makes it that only makes it more appealing

1038
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 4: to these people because they'll think, oh, a college student,

1039
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 4: that's an easier person to bully. They must harass. They

1040
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 4: had an inside man, they had an inside in the campus.

1041
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: That's what they'll run with, all right. They'll do that

1042
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: with every opportunity they can get, because I think most

1043
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 4: of these a lot of these people are just motivated

1044
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 4: by being bad.

1045
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 6: Okay, So here's the next one, the bending of the legs.

1046
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 6: This is when Tyler Robinson comes back to campus to

1047
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 6: actually commit the crime. This is a gentleman named Matt Kester.

1048
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 6: I'd never heard of him before, but he did a

1049
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 6: demonstration on his YouTube page showing what happens when you

1050
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 6: disassemble a rifle into two pieces and you stick one

1051
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 6: down either leg and you sort of use your armpit

1052
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 6: to kind of keep it in place.

1053
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 5: It top forty.

1054
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 9: Well, my eighteen year.

1055
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 17: Old six foot something assistant here, who weighs how many pounds? Okay,

1056
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 17: I don't know what the killer's weight was, but we

1057
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 17: do know that based on the mugshot, he was about

1058
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 17: seventy two inch is tall. The change was carrying the

1059
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 17: stock in the front being seen on here. This jeans

1060
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 17: are a little bit bag here, but if you pull

1061
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 17: them back, you remember that image of the gigantic cell

1062
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 17: phone sitting right.

1063
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 5: Here in the thigh.

1064
00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 9: That's your stock.

1065
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 17: That explains why the leg motion cannot come forward because

1066
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 17: it's completely locked in a walk towards me, that way

1067
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 17: walk straight at me.

1068
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 6: So he's actually got the barrel and the stock in.

1069
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 6: One of the theories is that they had it down

1070
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 6: either leg right, and depending on the fabric of your jeens,

1071
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 6: you could bend one or the other going up and

1072
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 6: down the stairs. So that's what's been described on some videos.

1073
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 6: There's actually a video I'm thinking of right now that

1074
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 6: we should have probably pulled. But this is their newest

1075
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 6: theory is that one leg bends in the other doesn't.

1076
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 6: The problem is he's probably got something down both pant

1077
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 6: legs actually cam any thoughts.

1078
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, totally, I mean they I'm like, this is not possible,

1079
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 10: even just the putting the rifle down the pants thing.

1080
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 10: But I've seen multiple variations of the same video that

1081
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 10: you just showed where different people are either shoving a

1082
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 10: whole thirty odd six down their pants or they're disassembling

1083
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 10: at thirty odd six and putting the barrel down one

1084
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 10: in the stock down the other, and they have close

1085
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 10: to full motion in both cases if they really want

1086
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 10: to do full motion. Now, Tyler Robinson might have been

1087
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 10: a little bit more skinish because he's going to assassinate somebody,

1088
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Speaker 10: so he might not have bent his legs as much

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Speaker 10: just because he didn't want Maybe the barrel would poke

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Speaker 10: through his legs and somebody would realize something's off. But

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Speaker 10: totally possible.

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Speaker 5: Totally possible, all right.

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Speaker 6: So the other thing that we're still going with is

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Speaker 6: that it was there's a height difference, so there's an

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00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 6: allegation that the person in the video was actually six

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Speaker 6: two sixty three. This is coming from Candace herself. But

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Speaker 6: as you heard in that clip, by the way, he

1098
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 6: referenced directly, seventy two inches, which is not five ten

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Speaker 6: five eleven, it's six foot. So there's that, and then

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Speaker 6: we've got that. We'll play a clip from her. This

1101
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Speaker 6: is that she doesn't believe that he was on campus

1102
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Speaker 6: that day, which one is that? All right, we'll see.

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Speaker 6: I think this is it forty one.

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Speaker 18: I do not believe that Tyler Robinson is the person

1105
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 18: who was walking in that staircase.

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Speaker 5: So real, real quick.

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Speaker 6: Obviously that was before the preliminary hearing, but that's still

1108
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 6: a large degree of their allegations online.

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Speaker 4: Silly. It's just silly. They're they're saying he has to

1110
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 4: be way taller because he has he looks lanky, So

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Speaker 4: I guess they're unfamiliar with the idea of a twink

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00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 4: who's not very this event, doesn't have a has an

1113
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 4: elongated body, even if they're not that tall. Yeah, Okay,

1114
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 4: Tyler Robinson didn't lift.

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Speaker 6: So my response on social media is like, I remember

1116
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 6: when I first heard that Tom Cruise was only five

1117
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 6: seven too, looked a lot bigger on all those movies

1118
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Speaker 6: for a long time.

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Speaker 5: Final fifteen seconds to you, Cam.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, it's just ridiculous. They desperately want Tyler

1121
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Speaker 10: Robinson not to be the person. What's the evidence that's

1122
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 10: not Tyler Robinson? There is none, And they say, well,

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Speaker 10: we have it in present with evidence that this is

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00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 10: Tyler Robinson. Well, that's probably because we're not in the

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Speaker 10: trial yet. This is a preliminary hearing where they're just

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00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 10: admitting evidence a probable cause, and then in the actual

1127
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Speaker 10: trial the defense and the prosecute argue with each other

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Speaker 10: about whether or not that.

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Speaker 6: Actually Cam Higbee, my man, keep up the good work.

1130
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Speaker 6: We'll talk to you soon. If you're about to turn

1131
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Speaker 6: coverage and getting less than they deserved in return. That's

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Speaker 6: or already on medicare, may make the call today now

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Speaker 6: pound two fifty, pound two fifty and say Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 6: pound two fifty and say Charlie Kirk. Or go to

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Speaker 6: ask Chapter dot org slash Kirk. All right, I have

1147
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 6: to just play this clip because I the team. The

1148
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 6: team showed it to me and it was it was

1149
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 6: too good. Alex Marlow joins us though right now, and

1150
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Speaker 6: he is, of course the editor in chief of Breitbart.

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Speaker 6: He's got the Alex Marlow shows. Good to see you,

1152
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Speaker 6: my friend. It feels like it feels like one of

1153
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Speaker 6: those weeks. We're only on Wednesday, but I feel like

1154
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Speaker 6: I've lived two weeks this week. You're POV from the

1155
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Speaker 6: outside looking in.

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Speaker 2: Uh Are we talking about the trial?

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Speaker 19: Yes, sir, yeah, it's it's it seems like we're getting

1158
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Speaker 19: more kind of excruciating details about stuff that I think

1159
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Speaker 19: people who are Oukham's razor people.

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Speaker 2: I'm an Aukham's razor people.

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Speaker 19: I always kind of default to the most obvious explanation

1162
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Speaker 19: is the explanation, and there occasionally it's not.

1163
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: Occasionally it's very complicated.

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Speaker 19: There's a very conspiratorial web that has actually worked its

1165
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Speaker 19: magic and somehow pulled off some sort of unbelievable thing

1166
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Speaker 19: and pulled the wool out from all of our eyes.

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Speaker 19: It just seems like we're getting a lot of confirmation

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Speaker 19: of the most obvious explanation about what's happening.

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Speaker 2: And it's deeply painful to.

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Speaker 19: Watch, and it's hurtful, and I think that a lot

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Speaker 19: of the conversation online is exposing a lot of people

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Speaker 19: who I'm sure gonna come up in the course of

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Speaker 19: this conversation, who have gone out of their way to

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Speaker 19: try to i think, obfuscate and to cast doubt upon

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Speaker 19: getting clarity for the true victims of Charlie's death. And

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Speaker 19: I think it's all just so horrific, But hopefully there'll

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Speaker 19: be some closure involved at the end when the dust settles.

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Speaker 6: All right, So you want to name names, all right, Well,

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Speaker 6: here's here's one. This won't be the first time we've

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Speaker 6: mentioned today. But whatever this is, Candice, it top forty five.

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Speaker 2: I do think is behind this.

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Speaker 18: I don't do you think Tyler Robinson was there?

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00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 12: This is a video of mister Robinson returning back to

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Speaker 12: campus the same way that he did previously on foot.

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Speaker 18: I do not believe to the person walking in the staircases,

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Speaker 18: even the person that we saw running off of the roof.

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Speaker 14: We're able to track mister Robinson when he leaves this

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Speaker 14: parking structure.

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Speaker 12: Yes, we were able to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what are we seeing now.

1191
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 12: Mister Robinson lowering and jumping off of the roof of

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Speaker 12: the Loci building onto the gross area.

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Speaker 18: I don't even know what day that person was running

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Speaker 18: off the roof that's.

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Speaker 12: Just Offternoon, about twelve fifteen on one day, September tenth,

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: So that's that your reaction.

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Speaker 19: Is just so devastating to the conservative movement to turning

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Speaker 19: port USA to Charlie Kirk's family and his legacy, to

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Speaker 19: those who actually did know Charlie and loved Charlie and

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Speaker 19: work with him closely for so long that this individual

1202
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Speaker 19: has gone out of her way since his death to

1203
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 19: try to destroy his family destroys organization and is so

1204
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 19: willingly lying through her teeth, saying things she knows nothing about,

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Speaker 19: and even though there's overwhelming evidence portraying one one narrative,

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Speaker 19: to go out of her way to suggest that actually,

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Speaker 19: that's all fake, that's all smoke and mirrors, and this

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00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 19: other narrative of which I have no evidence whatsoever, that's

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Speaker 19: the real narrative. And to continue to peddle this over

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Speaker 19: and over again and be able to garner attention for it.

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Speaker 19: It's very upsetting, and it comes from a very dark place,

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Speaker 19: and it's a place that we're all going to have

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Speaker 19: to explore unfortunately.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's interesting because there was this expression

1215
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Speaker 6: Blake and I were discussing it yesterday. It's a medical expression,

1216
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 6: I think, where they say when you hear the sound

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00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 6: of hoofs approaching, you probably should look for horses, not zebras.

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Speaker 5: Right, it's kind of a weird one.

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00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 6: I hadn't heard it before, but somebody brought it up

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Speaker 6: to me yesterday and I was like.

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Speaker 5: Man, that's so true.

1222
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Speaker 6: What do you think it is about the online space,

1223
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Speaker 6: the social media of it all that seems to incentivize

1224
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 6: people looking for zebras anything other than Tyler Robinson being

1225
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 6: the murderer here. They want anything else to be true.

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Speaker 6: They've even said they would be willing to go on

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Speaker 6: stand to defend Tyler Robinson despite DNA evidence, despite turning

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Speaker 6: himself in, despite the defense not even arguing that he

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Speaker 6: didn't turn himself in, despite the evidence, the defense not

1230
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Speaker 6: even arguing, you know, shape charges or exploding mics or

1231
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Speaker 6: anything like that. Why this incessant demand to look at

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Speaker 6: any other potential reality other than the one that's staring

1233
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Speaker 6: them right in the face.

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Speaker 4: We know why, but all at Alex's answer.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I think there's a few potential explanations. There's the

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Speaker 19: darkest one, where there's literal, demonic possession of that individual

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Speaker 19: that you're playing, And that's one. I think a lot

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Speaker 19: of people wonder what's going on? How could you behave

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Speaker 19: so evillly so publicly. The other thing is, of course,

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Speaker 19: cloud changing is just very addictive to get online views,

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Speaker 19: as people know, and people follow their traffic very closely,

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Speaker 19: and that's very simply sort that could explain some of this.

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Speaker 19: But I think what's more compelling is Candice is really

1244
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Speaker 19: operating as like a cult leader. If you look at

1245
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 19: the hallmarks of what a cult leader does. They keep

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Speaker 19: things very vague but also simple. They provide answers that

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Speaker 19: other people don't, even though there's really no evidence behind

1248
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 19: the answers, but they're very convincing, and the way they

1249
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 19: portray it, they emphasize and this sort of sensational over

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Speaker 19: what's intellectually available to people. And it just does feel

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Speaker 19: like there's almost like a religious nature to some of

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Speaker 19: her followers. It just makes me think that that's what's

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Speaker 19: going on. Also, she kind of disguises I think how

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Speaker 19: much she makes. She's getting very wealthy off of this process,

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Speaker 19: and that doesn't seem to come up at all.

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Speaker 2: She accuses all sorts of people.

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Speaker 19: You, Andrew, I heard you've been just printing money since

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Speaker 19: Charlie got assassinated, even though you start all these businesses

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Speaker 19: with him and your financial future was tied directly to Charlie. No,

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Speaker 19: you've been the greatest beneficiary financially at all.

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Speaker 3: All.

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Speaker 19: That's classic projection, because she's getting rich doing this stuff,

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Speaker 19: and it's all so sick and I can't believe.

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Speaker 2: Weve got to keep doing it over and over again.

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Speaker 2: We've got to keep watching this stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's interesting though, it does feel like

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Speaker 6: the tide is turning. Really, I've noticed a massive uptick

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Speaker 6: in brave voices stepping forward and confronting it, and I'm

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Speaker 6: super encouraged by that this weekend. This week has been

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Speaker 6: incredibly hard because we're forced to relive this awful moment,

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Speaker 6: but it's also been really encouraging to see people look

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Speaker 6: at the evidence react the right way.

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Speaker 5: You know that you would you would think people would react.

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Speaker 6: And then actually speak up and say, guys, what are

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Speaker 6: we doing here? And so I don't know if you've

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01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 6: noticed that too, but I have been personally encouraged to

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Speaker 6: see people moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 5: At the very least.

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Speaker 19: It's very tough to maintain any credibility when you go

1280
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Speaker 19: on one the biggest podcasts in the world and say

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Speaker 19: I don't think Tyler Robinson was there, and then a

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Speaker 19: week later you see actual footage of him being there specifically,

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Speaker 19: plus more details about you know, walking with a limb,

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Speaker 19: things like that that are also pretty compelling.

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Speaker 2: It it's shredding of credibility. There's no credibility laughed at

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Speaker 2: that point. But for I think most.

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Speaker 19: People who've been observing this, there was no credibility weeks ago,

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Speaker 19: and still it goes on. The charade goes on, the

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Speaker 19: reality TV that takes place on YouTube goes on. So

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Speaker 19: but I really wanted Blake's explanation too, Blake dive, I

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Speaker 19: want to hear what you have to say.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I meanschology.

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Speaker 4: I'm just on. I think, first of all, I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of leaders I've asserted. I think I think Candae,

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Speaker 4: for example, was resentful of Charlie while he was alive.

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Speaker 4: I think she was resentful of Erica for being someone

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Speaker 4: Charlie loved more than her. I think she took an

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Speaker 4: ego injury when she was not immediately asked to take

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Speaker 4: over turning point. I think all of those things play

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Speaker 4: a role, and I think I think she just genuinely

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Speaker 4: wants the person who killed Charlie to get away with it.

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Speaker 4: I think she wants that to be the case. And

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of her followers are committed to

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Speaker 4: a similar thing, a similar tech because the way they act,

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Speaker 4: they don't act like people who are really interested in

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Speaker 4: the truth. They act like people who are interested in

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Speaker 4: hurting people. That's why I flagged. When they're they're now

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Speaker 4: really interested in the idea of identifying who at Turning

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Speaker 4: Point spoke to Tyler Robinson, whatever random Turning Point volunteer

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Speaker 4: or staffer was helping set up the event. They want

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Speaker 4: to find this person so they can get claws into them,

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Speaker 4: Bully them online if they have social media, Bully them

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Speaker 4: in real life if they can get away with it,

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Speaker 4: dive into their family members. Make these people feel miserable

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Speaker 4: and attacked. Andrew, you and I we've gotten attacked for

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Speaker 4: a while. We're used to it, we're used to what

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Speaker 4: it is. But if you're not a public person, that's

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Speaker 4: a really unpleasant process to go through. It is you

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Speaker 4: feel terrorized. And they like the idea of terrorizing someone,

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Speaker 4: even if they're not fully just thinking, oh, I'd love

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Speaker 4: it if the person who killed Charlie got away with it.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people they find it very addicting to

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Speaker 4: find some excuse to be cruel to somebody, to be

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Speaker 4: nasty to someone, and tell themselves I'm doing the right thing.

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Speaker 4: I'm a crusader for justice. You always have to look

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Speaker 4: out for that. This is why lynch mobs are bad.

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Speaker 4: This is why mean girls stuff is bad. It's very

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Speaker 4: intoxicating to be evil and cloak yourself in the mantle

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Speaker 4: of righteousness.

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Speaker 19: So driving this I think it's part of why I

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Speaker 19: think my cult point is worthwhile because a lot of

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Speaker 19: the followers it's very hard to pull yourself away from

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Speaker 19: cults when you're so invested. You've been spending all this time,

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Speaker 19: these hours, trusting this individual to bring you the truth,

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Speaker 19: and you realize it's it's all completely false, all of

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Speaker 19: it's completely bogused. It's very hard for you to mitche

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Speaker 19: yourself that I've been misled, I've been led astray, and

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Speaker 19: I've been wasting a bunch of my time. And people

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Speaker 19: don't necessarily respond to that by saying, well, now I

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Speaker 19: want the truth.

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Speaker 2: No, people get very angry.

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Speaker 19: They get angry with themselves, they get angry with people

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Speaker 19: surrounding them, and that's what we're witnessing.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna witness.

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Speaker 6: Hi, folks, Andrew colved here, I'd like to tell you

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Speaker 6: about my friends over at why REFI. You've probably been

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Speaker 6: hearing me talk about why REFI for some time now.

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Speaker 6: We are all in with these guys. If you or

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Speaker 6: someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt,

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Speaker 6: save you thousands of dollars and you can get your

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Speaker 6: life back. We go to campuses all over America and

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Speaker 6: we see student after student who's drowning in private student

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Speaker 6: loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much

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Speaker 6: they owe. Why ref I can help. Just go to

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Speaker 6: y refi dot com. That's the letter, Why then refi

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Speaker 6: dot com. And remember why Refi doesn't care what your

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Speaker 6: credit score is. Just go to yrefi dot com and

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Speaker 6: tell them your friend Andrews sent you.

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Speaker 5: All right, Alex Marlowe.

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Speaker 6: So we have more to get to today, and I'm

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Speaker 6: hopeful that today is going to be the day in

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Speaker 6: the preliminary hearing that we get to see the video

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Speaker 6: of Lance Twigs right now. Yesterday there was all this

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Speaker 6: chatter online, was you know, because the DNA they were

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Speaker 6: misinterpreting the testimony that Lance had more DNA on the

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Speaker 6: objects found than Tyler Robinson. We've debunked that earlier in

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Speaker 6: the hour, so and then they were saying that he

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Speaker 6: wasn't the right height, all that stuff. Okay, Lance Twiggs

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Speaker 6: has limited immunity, And I just want to say this

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Speaker 6: at the top. If it becomes clear that Lance Twiggs

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Speaker 6: had a more direct role in what happened to Charlie,

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Speaker 6: I hope he rots in prison or more. Right now,

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Speaker 6: he's getting limited immunity as a as a witness for

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Speaker 6: the state to present evidence against Tyler Robinson. I think

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Speaker 6: that is going to be a really, really big moment.

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Speaker 6: I hope today's the day that we get there. But

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Speaker 6: the defense is making this thing drag out a lot.

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Speaker 4: They They've made it take an hour for one of

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Speaker 4: the witnesses to identify the defendant in the courtroom.

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Speaker 6: They took an hour to establish Charlie's Christianity.

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Speaker 4: Yep, they are. They're taking their time on every aspect

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Speaker 4: of this. But that's one reason we're doing our shows

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01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 4: with this focus. We want to make sure people are

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Speaker 4: able to see and digest everything that happens.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're you're are you what are you most anticipating, Alex?

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Speaker 5: That's for me, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point.

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Speaker 19: I am thought of that way, but it does seem

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Speaker 19: like they're really making sort of pro forma stuff take forever,

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Speaker 19: which is I don't understand the strategy, but I guess

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Speaker 19: maybe that's all they got because there's so much overwhelming

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Speaker 19: evidence against the defendant here.

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Speaker 2: But the Twigs.

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Speaker 19: The Twigs angle is very interesting because it just seems

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Speaker 19: implausible that Robinson would have done this without Twigs coordination.

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01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 19: It just seems like that he would do this on

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01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 19: behalf of Twigs and then that's it, just like as

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01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 19: a favor or something. It seems like there had to

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Speaker 19: have been some sort of deeper connection to it and

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01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 19: just simply saying an opportunity to take out Charlie and

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Speaker 19: I'm gonna take it. It just it seems very thin

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Speaker 19: to me. So there's obviously more there. The question is

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01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 19: what is the more there and how much did they

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01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 19: bond over hatred of Charlie, which I'm guessing is more

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01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 19: substantial than we've known to this point. So I'm definitely

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Speaker 19: curious to see where that goes. Because of course Twigs

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Speaker 19: is a bad actor in this. Did Twigs specifically do

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Speaker 19: anything illegal? Everyone watching here would bet yes. So the

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 19: question is what is that? Can we figure that out

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Speaker 19: and have him held accountable as well.

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Speaker 6: So last year a YouTuber named Turkey Tom had a

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Speaker 6: whistleblower come forward identify himself as either a roommate or

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Speaker 6: like a friend that he was in the same friend

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Speaker 6: group friend group. He would come over to their house

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Speaker 6: a lot. And I really recommend people check this out.

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Speaker 6: I Jack Posobic tweeted about it and linked to the episode,

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Speaker 6: and I have been told credibly that this is this

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01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 6: person is checks out that this actually was somebody in

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01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 6: their friend group, their friend orbit, and the story that

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Speaker 6: he tells is one of absolute manic to prey ess,

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01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 6: of rampant drug use, black market HRT, extremely graphic and

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01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 6: sort of like I want to remember that there's eleven

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01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 6: year olds watching this, but sexual acts sort of like

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Speaker 6: in the house between Twigs and Robinson, And remember that

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Speaker 6: Robinson was an LDS kid. He's a Mormon kid who

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01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 6: strayed from the Mormon church. His first his first I

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Speaker 6: guess lover if you will, was this Lance Twiggs character

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Speaker 6: who is very manic. It was very all over the place,

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Speaker 6: and it kind of had a really dark side and

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Speaker 6: was trying to transition.

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Speaker 4: Well It's what we were discussing earlier. The way you

1437
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 4: can construct this you can choose to fixate on everything

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01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 4: that can possibly undermine it, or you can look for

1439
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 4: the horse hooves or the zebras, and the horse hoof

1440
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 4: here is okay, Well, what would dry? What kind of

1441
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Speaker 4: person would commit a heinous, out of the blue political

1442
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 4: assassination basically throw their life way for this sort of thing.

1443
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 4: And you'd probably think, oh, let's find someone who's living

1444
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 4: a very bizarre life where they would be marinating in

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01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 4: strange online stuff that that would radicalize them ideologically, It

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01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 4: would make them think insane violent actions are suddenly more comprehensible.

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01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 4: They might have a partner or a friend who's driving

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Speaker 4: them onwards and lo and behold, this is what we

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Speaker 4: are finding in the case.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Tyler Robinson sort of is painted in this

1451
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 6: is this quiet person that was the only person to

1452
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 6: comfort I mean that we're talking images of him coddling

1453
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 6: him on the couch, rocking him back and forth, trying

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01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 6: to make Lance twigs okay. And you could see how

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01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 6: all of those elements combined would lead somebody like Tyler

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01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 6: Robinson who had been living in this very dark place

1457
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 6: detached from reality, disassociating from normal morality, could think that

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 6: doing something so heinous was actually an act of love

1459
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 6: for somebody like Lance Twigs. Those are just thoughts, but

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Speaker 6: Alex find.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I think it's the Yeah, the vization arc is

1462
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 19: something I think all of us are very curious about,

1463
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 19: those of us who mutually care about him, that how

1464
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 19: could this guy do this and play god in this way?

1465
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 19: And what was the process for him, seeming like a

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01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 19: normal guy with the normal family to get to this

1467
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 19: sort of level of evil And what connection does Lance

1468
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Speaker 19: Twiggs have in that is a curiosity among many others.

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01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 19: So any more that can be done on that front,

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01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 19: hopefully from a legal standpoint, we all want justice, that's

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Speaker 19: number one. But also I think a lot of people

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01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 19: love Charlie would like some clarity. I think that would

1473
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 19: help us find some peace we start to understand more

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Speaker 19: of those details.

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Speaker 6: Man, I certainly would count myself among that group. I mean,

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01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 6: that's what's so frustrating about this whole thing. We've been

1477
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 6: swatting away the gadflies here and we haven't gotten a

1478
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 6: chance to be the ones to express our questions because

1479
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,919
Speaker 6: we're constantly trying to you know, deal with the crazies

1480
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 6: out there, like there.

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01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 5: Are legitimate questions. I want to know answers.

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01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 6: And by the way, I have been pushing behind the scenes,

1483
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 6: and so it's Blake and so's Erica.

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01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 4: Like Alto on the record, I don't feel we ever

1485
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,560
Speaker 4: saw us a full status factory accounting for the weird videos.

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01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 6: Totally who else was in the discord chat? I want

1487
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 6: answers to all of this stuff, and hopefully we're gonna

1488
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 6: get it.

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Speaker 5: The right way. Alex Marlow, You're a good friend. It's

1490
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 5: good to see you, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, guys, I'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 19: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 19: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.