1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: How are we doing out there? Everyone? Welcome back to 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: the World Otoo Podcast, where I'm joined by my lovely 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: wife Melissa, who's looking very happy and refreshed and shabboted. Shabbated. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: It's not a word, but everyone, we've decided to use it. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: Yesterday was Shabbat. We're going to review our experience with 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: our first ever We're going to wait Shabbat or Sabbath? 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Can we say sabbath? 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: I mean the kids were saying that it was our 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: Shabbat shalom, and I just thought it was so funny, 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: So you can say whatever you want, our. 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: Shabbat, our Sabbath. We took the day off yesterday. We'll 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: review that. Also, we want to discuss really great just 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: some of the feedback that in Nevaigat on a recent 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: video and how that kind of ties into just the 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: what has become the cultural norm here in the United 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: States with kicking your kids out of the house at 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: the age of eighteen, get out, and kind of everything 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: that correlates and corresponds with that, and also Agenda twenty thirty, 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: where there is this narrative that is being pushed amongst 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: young people, especially just seemingly trying to discourage them from 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: pursuing their ability to build a life for themselves. Let's 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: say it all kind of ties in into one giant discussion. Yeah, 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: we're going to go over all that. But Mama, how 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: was your Shabbah? 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: It was so good? It was so relaxing, life changing, 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 2: and we did so many things that I've been meaning 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, and then I just will get sucked 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: into doing other stuff that doesn't matter. And so the 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: day felt slow and intentional, and the kids said it 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: felt like a long but really full day and they 31 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: really really liked it. Eli was concerned he would get bored, 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: and he loved it so much. 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: It was a long day, but in a really good way. 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Do you want to go over your day, review your 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: day really quickly, hearing maybe just what some of your 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: big takeaways where, and whether or not you kept it 37 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: like faith centered again. 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we woke up in the morning, we weren't 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: distracted by our phones, and everybody sat there while we 40 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: drank coffee and we just had a conversation. And then 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: you guys took off and did your thing for like 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: a little bit. You can get into that. But Kier 43 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: and I made homemade pizza dough so that we could 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: make pizza for everyone for Shabbat dinner. And I gave 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: Elia book because he was feeling a little bored. He 46 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: didn't quite know what to do with his hands because 47 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: he likes to build stadiums on his device, Like he 48 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: has this architectural game and he builds stadiums. 49 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: It's the most recent thing he's into. 50 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: Stadiums are his thing right now. So if anyone has 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 2: any connections to any kind of stadium tour, baseball or football, 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: he's into it. So anyway, he didn't know what to do. 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: I gave him a book that was book one of 54 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: an entire series. And he's never read a chapter book 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: cover to cover. He has a lot of them, but 56 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: he doesn't sit long enough. He's a real hyper kid, 57 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: like he loves to run around and play sports and 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 2: do all of that, and then he likes things that 59 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: are really interactive. So a book to him is like 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: and the plus, he's really dyslexic, and so he has 61 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: it kind of in his head that he's not the 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: strong reader. And he sat there the whole day and 63 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: he read an entire chapter book. He was so proud 64 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: of himself. He was like telling me the jokes in it. 65 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: He was telling both of us about what was going. 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: On, and the character said this, yeah, yeah, it was good. 67 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: And then I gave him book too, and he was like, 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: oh yay, and he was all excited about it. 69 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Something we haven't spoken about, I don't think on 70 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: camera with you guys before is that Eli is like 71 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: severely dyslexic. He had a number of challenges like trying 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: to learn how to read, and then he does math 73 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: with you. For homeschooling, it's always a whole cluster. 74 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: Try long division with somebody who's very dyslexics, order of operations, 75 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: anything that goes back and forth. Like I think last 76 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: time I brought it up, we were doing borrowing, so 77 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: he had to go back and forth. I thought that 78 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: was hard. Long division just throws him for a loop 79 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: because everything is backwards. Not just the numbers aren't just backwards, 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: but they're actually physically flip backwards. And same with letters. 81 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: It's really interesting to see. I mean, he'll put shirts 82 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: on backward, like four out of seven days in the 83 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: week he comes out dropping, Dude, your shirt's on backward again. 84 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: He's like like he feels frustrated. So for him, to 85 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: just sit and read a book, and then. 86 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: As a two hundred and forty five page book, he 87 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: read the whole thing in one day. 88 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: And then was excited for the next one. And today 89 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: the router is back on and he was on the 90 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: couch reading the second book. Yes, he reads fun. 91 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. Kim Oni and I woke up, like 92 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: you said, we had our morning coffee, our morning chat, 93 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: and then Kimanie and I headed out for a run. 94 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: If you've been following Kaimanie over on his channel Kaimanie SUSA, 95 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: he's alluded to the fact a couple of times that 96 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: we have been running, he and I and yesterday we 97 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: worked up to our second ten mile run at an 98 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: eight twenty nine pace, which is really good for me. 99 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: I've really been enjoying the experience of, you know, just 100 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: doing something with him, like pursuing something with him. He's 101 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: been my my training partner, you know, we work out 102 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: together and now we're running together. And we had a 103 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: great run. It was a beautiful day, a great way 104 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: to start the day. Came back home, decided to hop 105 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: on the lawnmower for the first time, got a bunch 106 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: of yard worked on that I've been like my favorite 107 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: part of the day was that I just got to 108 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: tackle things that I've been staring at, looking at like 109 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: I need to do this, I need to take care 110 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: of that. I well, I realized that kind of like 111 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: when I mentioned last week, like, hey, my way of 112 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: honoring God is going to be just to do things 113 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: to see the best of my ability. And it was 114 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: a beautiful day. Got to smell the freshly cut grass 115 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: for the first time in like six months. So I 116 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: did all of that, came back in, we had our 117 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: family dinner, pizza. 118 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: Well, Kier and I rode horses, which yeah, we brought 119 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: the baby out because he's a little scared of blue 120 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: just because he's so big. I mean, if you think 121 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: about it, for him, it'd be like a bronosaurus in 122 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: your face. So we finally got him to pet his 123 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: nose and we took turns riding. And then I looked 124 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: like I'm riding the horse. He's trotting and staying on 125 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: the rail, which he never does. And then you were 126 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: on the lawnmower. The boys were throwing the football back 127 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: and forth. Kier and I are riding the baby like 128 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: she's wearing the baby when I'm riding. I'm wearing the 129 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: baby when she's riding. It was just such a beautiful day. 130 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 1: I should say it because we have mentioned yet. Novella 131 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: was actually out of the house. She drove down in 132 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: Spokane to taking a symphony. She went to the symphony, 133 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: believe it or not, with a with a friend. 134 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: She went on a date to the symphony. 135 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: She went on a date to the Spokane So we 136 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: cut her some slack. But even when she came back, 137 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: you know, we were all like I was. I was 138 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: actually sleeping when she came back because the day was 139 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: so long. 140 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: On her day day say that she did not get 141 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: on her phone, even for the long drive or anything. 142 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: She did not look at it. She she actually started 143 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: her shot properly on Friday night. All the way through 144 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 2: Sunday morning. 145 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: She did the full I didn't realize that. 146 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: Yep. They talked about the Bible on the way down 147 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: and then they came back and had a Bible study. 148 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: Interesting life that girls living like. 149 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: To take her out. She's just full of hot date, 150 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: symphony and Bible study. 151 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: No, but like I guess, my big takeaway was that 152 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: this is the way it's supposed to be. You know 153 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, like everything felt good. It was such 154 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: such a It was kind of like a romantic day 155 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: for me, you know. I, like you said, the kids 156 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: are running around playing and it felt to me like 157 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: a black to the past of I don't want to say, 158 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: happier times, both times that I just kind of missed 159 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: with the kids, of getting older. Times everybody's outside. You know. 160 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: When we first moved here, we didn't have any internet 161 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: because we didn't have any power, so we had internet 162 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: for like very brief periods of time during the day. 163 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: And it felt like that again, and it made me 164 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: really happy just to see everybody out and about it 165 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: like enjoying one another's company a lot more like face 166 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: to face, eye contact type of conversations. And I know 167 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: this sounds really weird, but I told you even at 168 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 1: one point when we were having just like a stupid discussion. 169 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: I remember what we were talking about. We were in 170 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: the bedroom, and I was like, isn't isn't just like 171 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: this nice even like we're just we're just either one 172 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: of us, like we're just living life and we're speaking 173 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: to each other face to face without any distractions, Like 174 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: that's the way it's supposed to be. 175 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: So much less anxiety and stress. So I know a 176 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: lot of you guys were like, you know, God's been 177 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: putting this on my heart too, so we're going to 178 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: do it. Also, did you guys start on Saturday or Sunday? 179 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: I want to hear about your experience also, And then 180 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: if you didn't, are you going to start this weekend? 181 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: I really really think you should. We were super blessed 182 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: by it. I'm so excited for next Saturday. The kids 183 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: loved it. I thought they were going to resist it, 184 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: and they didn't at all, and all of them said, 185 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: this was a really good day. 186 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: It was a great day. I highly highly recommend it. Yeah, 187 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: it just it just felt it felt right, like I 188 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: felt normal again. I feel like I could collect my 189 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: thoughts a lot more, just when I was on the 190 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: lawn more I could I could pinpoint thoughts. And my 191 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: brain just feels like a jumbled mess. So oftentimes I 192 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: think it's because of these damn devices like you you 193 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: alluded to last week. They do a horrible job of 194 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: distracting us, and I think we don't spend enough time 195 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: in just in thought. 196 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like God knew what he was doing. 197 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: How about that? 198 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? For six days you shall work, and for one 199 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: day you shall rest, and you will be blessed is. 200 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Supposed to be. Don't get me wrong, Like these things 201 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: can be great for a variety of reasons, but I 202 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: think for the most part they serve more sol as 203 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: a deshman than anything. And it carried over for me 204 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: even like today didn't spend the same amount of time 205 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: on my phone, didn't look at anything, still have not 206 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: red a lot of the things that I would ordinarily 207 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: look at. And so yeah, I hope that we stick 208 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: with this and that I persist and that it maybe 209 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: like infiltrates and works his way into our life to 210 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: where it has a tremendous impact that we can live 211 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: more so of what I would consider a more normal life. 212 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think by turning everything off for a day, 213 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: it shows you how much you don't need it. And 214 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: then I do think that it will trickle throughout the 215 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: week of putting it down and and everything. So I 216 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: don't know. 217 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: I felt way better when I walked. 218 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: Out to record this Eli was reading. I was happy. 219 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: Caimani ended up going back to like figuring out his 220 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: Rubik's Cube and curious just hanging out with Micah and. 221 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the eighties. 222 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just good. It was good. I know 223 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: they were playing Djenga and Rubik's Cube and it was 224 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: so good. So I really really encourage you guys to 225 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: give it a try. It blessed us tremendously yesterday. I 226 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: know next week is going to be great and we're 227 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: going to stick to it. 228 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: I could take it a step further, no power until 229 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: maybe it gets dark, No power, I would do it that. 230 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you're not going to be having like fun 231 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: pizza nights and stuff the pizza with them. 232 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: Great, and like you know, we don't have to be 233 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: super strangent about it. We can just break the ord 234 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: bin the rules right now and again. But yeah, it 235 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: was a good day. I've a highly recommend it. It 236 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: was awesome. 237 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: You guys know that we've gotten pretty serious about healthy 238 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: whole foods and staying away from processed foods and ingredients 239 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: that we can't pronounce for every member of the family, 240 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: and that also includes our four legged family members as well. 241 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've always believed that good nutrition for our dogs 242 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: is not only about giving them more years, but also 243 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: about giving them more life during those years. Noodle is 244 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: full of zoomies right now, but we want to make 245 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: sure that that's the cases he ages, and that means 246 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: real whole foods. From the very beginning, Sundays. 247 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: For Dogs has been amazing because it provides Looto with 248 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: one hundred percent meat and superfoods that are carefully selected 249 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: to play an important role in his overall health, like beef, blueberries, 250 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: and spinach. Sunday's is slow cooked and then gently air 251 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: dried to preserve natural vitamins and minerals without overprocessing. 252 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: Sundays is also really convenient. You get the nutrition of 253 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: a fresh diet without the hassle of having a cook, 254 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: store thought, or prep Its shelf stable, and it's simple 255 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: scoop and go food so you have more time for 256 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: playing snuggles. 257 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: It's also an amazing option if you love to travel, 258 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: whether you take your dog or you have someone else 259 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: watch them, because packing around fresh food can get really tricky, 260 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: which is something that we've personally found super convenient to clean. 261 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: Up your furry family member's diet in a simple and 262 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: nutritious way. 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So moving on, we have had some pretty 296 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: interesting conversations in our home and then with a lot 297 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: of outside feedback and comments, Nava posted a video on 298 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: her channel about trying to decide what she's doing next. 299 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: She moved in the apartment when she turned eighteen, and 300 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: then we told her she had till she was twenty 301 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: one to save money, start her career, her online work 302 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: that she's doing, and then really figure out what she 303 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: wants to do, because then Kimani will be moving into 304 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: the apartment and she's got to figure something out. So 305 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: the clock's starting to take the pressure starting to build, 306 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: and she needs to make decision on what she's doing. 307 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: So she kind of said, you know, I can live 308 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: here and I can build here, and my parents bought 309 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 2: this property and there's this building, a lot in this building, 310 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: a lot in this building, a lot. And the feedback 311 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: she got was a lot of it was, you know, 312 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: you're very blessed to have that opportunity, but a lot 313 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: of it was you've been brainwashed. Don't stay with your parents, 314 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: don't stay on their lot. 315 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: A lot of criticisms of us for some reason. 316 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that it's just in American culture. 317 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: It's at eighteen. You kick them out, you make them fly, 318 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: and they sink or swim, or they go to college 319 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: and then they've got four more years to grow up there. 320 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: But you don't coddle them and keep them home, and 321 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: you don't you sure as heck, don't build an your parents' 322 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: yard like that is so weird. 323 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a commonplace nowadays. Yeah, and we aren't 324 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: proponents of enabling children by any means, but we did 325 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: want to provide them with the opportunity to just weigh 326 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: their options. And it's never been like as far as 327 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: the whole brain washing things go thing goes, it hasn't 328 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: been a point of emphasis for us to be like, hey, 329 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: you need to stay here, you need to live with us, 330 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: you need to be close by, And never, in fact, 331 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: quite the opposite on my part, like I've always encouraged 332 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: Novea to explore her options, even though that means moving 333 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: out of state. You want to go to school, go 334 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: to school, will help you out with that. 335 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were encouraging her so much that she was like, 336 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: do you want me to go? Like what if I 337 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: just want to stay? Like she felt like she couldn't stay, 338 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: so we had to say no, no, you can stay. 339 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not trying to be on the defense about this. 340 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: It's just I want to make sure that our kids 341 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: live a life where they don't look back and have 342 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: regrets of like, hey, I should have pursued this, And 343 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot to be gained in the process, Like 344 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: there's a tremendous benefit to trying to figure things out 345 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: for yourself as a as a young adult. We did it. 346 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: It was great for us, But at the same time, 347 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of folks maybe aren't realizing that 348 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: we're kind of in the state of transition to where 349 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: the world is a crazy place right now, and for 350 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: that reason, we wanted to give them, provide them with 351 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: just an opportunity to be like, Hey, if you have 352 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: weighed all of your potential options and you have decided 353 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: that no, this is where you want to be and 354 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: you want to build your own place, you have the 355 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to do. 356 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: So, right, And we're not going to be paying for 357 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: her house, And we're not going to be giving our 358 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: kids money nothing like that. They can have the land, 359 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: they can build the house, and then we're here for them. 360 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: And ideally I would love for them all to choose that, 361 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: but they don't have to. Would I be over the moon, absolutely, 362 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: Like she would be disingenuous to say I hope that 363 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: they don't stay, like I hope they stay. 364 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: I do, well, we don't steer them in that direction. 365 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: I don't tell them they have to or I don't 366 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: give them that steamy, hot side dish of Greek guilt, 367 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: like I really try not to do that. But yeah, 368 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: I mean I would love for them to stay. I 369 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: hope they do. I enjoy my and my family. I 370 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: hope they get married. I hope they have a messy kids. 371 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: I want cousins running all over the place. I want 372 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: to have all the ponies for my grandkids. I would 373 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: love that. That would be beautiful. A guy. Look at 374 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: what Willie Robertson's built with his children, and I mean 375 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: they basically built their own neighborhood. And then they the 376 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: kids can just they've got their cousins to play with, 377 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: and then they can all run over to Grandma's house. 378 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: And then every Sunday or whatever, he's cooking this big 379 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: meal and they're all over there. 380 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: See. I always thought that was the dream for most people, 381 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: and it turns out I don't necessarily think that that's 382 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: the case, given so much of the feedback that she 383 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: got on that video. 384 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it wasn't just him, so it's funny or her. 385 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: I was. I've you know, I pay attention to Mat 386 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: Walsh a little bit. He's been on the podcast the 387 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: show Friend of the Show. Yeah, this was Willie at 388 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: the been. They've both been on the show, Matt while 389 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: she were on our show. You don't know who we are, 390 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: but anyway, I noticed that when all of that was 391 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: going on with Nivea and She's like, why is everyone 392 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: like you need to go? You can't stay on your parents' property, 393 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: Like that's not the proper way of doing it. And 394 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: she was feeling a little like, but I want to 395 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: stay here. I want to build here. I love this town. 396 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: I want to raise my children around their grandparents, and 397 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: like what better place than here? And so she's feeling like, 398 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: I don't I really don't understand it. And Matt Walls, 399 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 2: she's always been really big on at eighteen you kick 400 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: the kids out, especially boys. You go out, you do 401 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: your thing. You can't just rely on mommy and daddy. Well, 402 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 2: now he has six children and they're getting older, and 403 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: so he's really he's kind of in that place where 404 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: we are where you start really thinking about the realities. 405 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: The kids are younger than right they are, but. 406 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: I mean his I think his oldest as a his 407 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 2: oldest twins, yeah, twins first. Anyway, they're getting older, and 408 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: I think that their teenagers now, so like it's starting 409 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: to be a real thought in their minds of are 410 00:17:59,080 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: they leaving us? 411 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: So well, oddly enough, I don't know if you're going 412 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: to read like his yes, have his tools. He's basically 413 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: describing a situation ideally for himself. That starts so much 414 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: to what it is that we have here. 415 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: Not all she needs to move to Bonnors Fairy. It 416 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: does is really what it sounds like. He literally said 417 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: he wants to own a tackle shop and talk about 418 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: nothing but fishing when he's fifteen, and I was like, dude, 419 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 2: Honor's fairy, like, what are you doing? So he wrote, 420 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: I used to be entirely in the camp that said 421 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: you should kick your kids out at eighteen and force 422 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: them to live independently and make their own way in 423 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 2: the world. I don't feel that way at all anymore. 424 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 2: I want all of my kids to live with us 425 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: until they get married, even after they're married, if they 426 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 2: want to, or if they want to live on our 427 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: property or close by My wife and I would love that. 428 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: The important thing is to teach your kids responsibility, which 429 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: we're doing. They need to contribute and help around the house, 430 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: which all of our kids do at a very young age, 431 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: provided that they aren't raised that you aren't raising ungrateful, 432 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: useless moochures. Why kick them out, Why drive them away 433 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: from your family home. I don't see the point in 434 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: it anymore. I actually like my kids, and I like 435 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: being around them. Maybe they'll end up scattered to the wind, 436 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: but I prefer to keep our family together. Why wouldn't I. 437 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: That tweet got so many negative reactions. 438 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: Also, it's not just that's good. 439 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 2: No, it got he said that like, it got so 440 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: many reactions he ended up making a full episode on it. 441 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: But he didn't mean to, Like, he wasn't going to 442 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: make a full episode about it. He just had a 443 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: thought and him and his wife were talking about it, probably, 444 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: and so he tweeted it out. The negative reactions on 445 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: that were like, are you sick? Like what is wrong 446 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: with you? Why would you want your family to stay 447 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: on your property? You're controlling them? Why don't you want 448 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: them to go build their own thing? And it's funny 449 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: because around the world people don't live like that. My 450 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: Yaya came here from Greece, like what, seventy four percent 451 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 2: of Greeks from eighteen to thirty four still live with 452 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: their parents, a multi generation right here. 453 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: So this is in Europe and the US, more young 454 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: men and women live at home with her parents. So 455 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: this is the percentage of young adult ages eighteen to 456 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: thirty four who are still living at home with their parents. 457 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: And this is back from twenty twenty one, so take 458 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: that into account. But in places like Croatia it is 459 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: seventy six percent, Serbia seventy one percent, in Greece seventy 460 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: three percent, Portugal seventy two percent. At least seventy percent, 461 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: you can work your way all the way down this 462 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: list to the US, which is sitting at thirty three percent. 463 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: So this is again, this is the part that I 464 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: find so baffling. Why is it that it's it's treated 465 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: and handled and thought of as burdens on. Your kids 466 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: are a total burden. Sooner you can get them out 467 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: the sooner you have that streak of independence for yourself, 468 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: you can go and do whatever it is you want. 469 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I get it to a certain extent, 470 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: but really, when it comes to family, like nothing else 471 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: should come before a family, when it comes to addressing 472 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: your own needs, you know what I. 473 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: Mean, right? And obviously like that, relationship changes, But there 474 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: is so much beauty in that too. It's fun to 475 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 2: watch your kids get older and become adults and you 476 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: become kind of a spectator in their life. You're still 477 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: there to offer advice if they want it. But mostly 478 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: you're a spectator. And how cool would it be to 479 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: be able to spectate from your porch, Like I would 480 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: love to see my grand babies running across that field. 481 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: Like I've looked at that field and pictured Palomino's and 482 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff, But there is nothing more beautiful 483 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 2: than I could picture than my grandkids running across the 484 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: field from their house. 485 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's our primary motivation with trying to pick 486 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: up some large acreage out here. We did what we could, 487 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: we kind of, you know, we we bought as much 488 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: land as we could afford the time. I just don't 489 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: understand the philosophy. And this goes hand in hand with 490 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: like the way people raise even their young children, of like, hey, 491 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: wake up at six am, put your clothes on, get dress, 492 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: hop in the car. Let's not have any conversation. I'm 493 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: gonna leave you here at school or daycare, and then 494 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: again as soon as you grow up and you become eighteen, 495 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: you're out of the house. But so many people on 496 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: a day to day basis don't spend any real significant 497 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: time with their young children. Even it's like, you know, 498 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: I'll pick you up at six pm after you're doing 499 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: your after school activities. Once I'm done with work, we'll 500 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 1: see each other for a couple hours and it's back 501 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: to bed to do this all over again. 502 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we homeschool. I mean we work together, our kids 503 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: are we're all together. 504 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: Kids Like I would never want to drive them away 505 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: or make a conscious decision to be like, no, you're 506 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: on the outs from a different day to day basis 507 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: and in life. 508 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: See on the holidays, we'll see. I don't want that 509 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: relationship with our kids either, And so obviously I hope 510 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: that's not the way that it works out. If it is, 511 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: then then it is. But the opportunities here, and we 512 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: want to give them a good, strong start. I don't 513 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: want to just say, hey, you're eighteen, you have to 514 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: go to school, like you need to go pay for 515 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: your own college and go do that, because well that's 516 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: what I had to do, and that was always like like, 517 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: well I had to do that, and I was out 518 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 2: when I was eighteen. It's like, yeah, but was that 519 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: the best thing for you? Because so much of what 520 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 2: society is now is wasting your twenties. So from eighteen 521 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 2: to twenty two, you're getting that four year degree, you're 522 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: starting your life in tremendous debt. You're getting out with 523 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: no experience. Yeah, entry level jobs, you can't even pay 524 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: back your loans. And now the cost of housing is 525 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 2: two to three times percentage the cost that it was 526 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: for our parents' generation. 527 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked about that before. Not to say that 528 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: it's impossible, but it is most definitely more difficult. 529 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: So if you're starting with a useless degree that you're 530 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: not even going to use now, if you want to 531 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 2: be a doctor or a dentist or an architect or 532 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: something that requires that degree, then by all means, have 533 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 2: a plan. But don't just go and use that as 534 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: social time and four years of growing up, because that's 535 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: a really expensive social experiment and now you're already starting below. 536 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: You remember the game of life where it was like 537 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: do you want to go to college and take out 538 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: the loans or do you want to just start life? 539 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: I just started life. 540 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: That was more of a connect for a guy myself. 541 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: But then but then I ended up going to college 542 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: and getting the loans, and I got out of college 543 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: and it was difficult to get a job, and I 544 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 2: don't even use that degree now, so I don't I 545 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: didn't want that to be my kid's story if they 546 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: had something that they really wanted to do, but I 547 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: just went to go. 548 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: Times are changing, like one of the biggest takeaways I 549 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: had and reading through her comment session on that video 550 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: or just that, I think there's a it's very generational 551 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: as well to where I think a lot of older 552 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: people and like I had a conversation with my dad 553 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: that you overheard earlier this week where I feel like 554 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: a lot of older people are missing the fact that 555 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: we seem to be in a state of transition to 556 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: where things are changing and the old rules no longer 557 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: apply when it comes to a number of things. But 558 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: I think this whole classic tradition of like yeah, graduate 559 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: high school and either join a military, go to college, 560 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: or go to vacational school, and then you get out 561 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: of that and you're still struggling. 562 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 2: Like you get a job and then you could afford 563 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: a house, but that's not necessarily true, and. 564 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: Then start a fam Like, yeah, it's great when everything 565 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: falls into place like that, but I feel like the 566 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: way things are set up currently, you're setting yourself up 567 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: just a struggle long term if you follow that old. 568 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: Because now of doing things. Yeah, because that blueprint was 569 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: get the nine to five work until you retire. Then 570 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: you'll maybe you're lucky if you have a pension or 571 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 2: some kind of a retirement account. And then it was 572 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: just there was a cookie cut or blueprint of how 573 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: to do things. But it's not the only way. And 574 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: with the Internet now it is easier now, I think 575 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: for young people to build something of their own. Because 576 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: we have the internet, you can you can start a vlog, 577 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: you can start a business. There are so many women, 578 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: housewives making millions of dollars with a product that they created. 579 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: They saw a problem, they created a product, they started 580 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: an Etsy page or you know, a Shopify or something, 581 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: and now they're running businesses from their home and you 582 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: could never do that before. So the world is different 583 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: than it used to be and the old blueprint is 584 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: not the only way. 585 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: No longer applies. At least that's the way I see it. 586 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: It's just not the only way. But so many people 587 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 2: are telling her that's the way you need to do it. 588 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: You need to do it this way. You need to 589 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: go to college, you need to go to vocational school, 590 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: you need to go travel the world. That's a big one. 591 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: She gets, go travel, travel travel date a bunch of 592 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: meny a bunch of people, and that's how you find 593 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: your soul. 594 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: Man, marry a bunch of people. Go find yourself through 595 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: through world travel. Yeah, which to me sounds like it's 596 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: just like you don't don't waste your twenties taking a 597 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: prolonged vacation, right, that's not going to. 598 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: Take I understand the whole, like backpack through Europe and 599 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: stuff like. I mean, if you want to Rick Steves 600 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: your way through your twenties, Like, it just seems like 601 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: kind of a recipe for disaster. 602 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: Crazy if you're backpacking through Europe, now you. 603 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: You you're crazy, especially as a young woman. If you're 604 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: staying in hostels and stuff like, you're insane. But that 605 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: was like all the rage when we were in college. 606 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: I was like, what do you go to Spain? Go 607 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: to Yeah, So the it's just not you waste your twenties. 608 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: It's the average age to get married now for young 609 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 2: people is like thirty years old. Well, you just wasted 610 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: your best baby making years. I'm serious. Like I was 611 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: telling the kids yesterday because we were having these crazy 612 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: conversations because we had so much time to sit in top. 613 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: They were like they asked me like, what would you 614 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 2: do differently? 615 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: Mom? 616 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: And I was like, man, I started having kids at 617 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: twenty three, and I think that was great, But I 618 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: would have like kept having Like, well, I guess we 619 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 2: have quite a few kids in our twenties. 620 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: We have three kids in our twenties. 621 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was great. But now imagine if we 622 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: had waited till we were thirty. 623 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: People would advise against doing something like that. 624 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: It was such a beautiful like, it was such a 625 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: beautiful life and such a beauty. 626 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 1: It was, and it got us going. It forced us 627 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: to grow up really quickly. Yeah, I needed to lock 628 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: down a career. I became a police officer at twenty 629 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: three years old. We bought our first home at age 630 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: twenty three. You don't see twenty three year olds buying 631 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: homes these days because that's so out of reach. No 632 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: twenty three year old can't afford it down their own, 633 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: that's impossible. 634 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 2: If houses cost percentage wise what they cost today, we 635 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: would not have been able to get into our starter home. 636 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: Accounting and taking inflation into account, the median home price 637 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: today should be I think one hundred and eighty one 638 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. 639 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: Good luck finding that so we paid two thirty nine 640 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 2: for our first house. I just looked that house up, 641 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: and that house is now selling for almost seven hundred 642 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. 643 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: Crazy. 644 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: What you made as a police officer versus what you 645 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 2: would make today as a police officer has not gone 646 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: up that much. So it's three times more expensive than 647 00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: it was twenty years ago. 648 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: I probably like one hundred and ten thousand dollars right now. 649 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: So it doesn't equate. And we could barely pay the mortgage, 650 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: so we would not have been able to afford that. 651 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: You're doing just fine, I mean, you know, yeah, we 652 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: were your typical middle class right. 653 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 2: We were waiting till that paycheck came in, though, and 654 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: we weren't like if the car broke down, it was 655 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: like we got to dig into savings. Yeah, like it 656 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: was we didn't have an extra at the end of 657 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 2: the month. Yeah, And we weren't going on vacations. I mean, 658 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: our kids didn't go on an airplane until five years ago. 659 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: So we want to set our kids up the best 660 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: that we can, to the best of our ability, and 661 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: I think we've we've done that, but in presenting them 662 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: the option now that it's all coming to fruition and 663 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: the Vede's expressing an interest in potentially doing this or 664 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying that she's going to do it, but if 665 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: she if she does, we'd be very happy about it. 666 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: I really don't understand the criticism. Is it from people 667 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: that are like, well, you're just a spoiled brat, because 668 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, they all get a lot of that, and 669 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: maybe that's fair to a certain extent. She's yeah, but 670 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, like when we've you and I have devote 671 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: her lives to making sure that our kids never go without. 672 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: So that's not realistic for a lot of people out there, 673 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: which I get. Yeah, I was one of those kids, 674 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: so I understand. But you know, we're doing the best 675 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: that we can to make sure that her best foot 676 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: is forward. And yeah, we'll see where it goes. 677 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I understand the whole It takes 678 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: a village, but I've never bought into that. I don't. 679 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: I've seen the village. They're weird and I don't want 680 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: any part of it. 681 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: So your parencing advice from Hillary Clinton. 682 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes a family, for sure, and it like 683 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: there are people that don't have that family unit. And 684 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: I understand needing that village. I do. I understand, Like, 685 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: if you're a single mom and no fault of your 686 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: own and you need to work and you don't want 687 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: to live off the system, and you work two jobs 688 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: and you need to utilize daycare, I get it. Yeah, 689 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: there's need to situations. But if you're putting your kids, 690 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: if you stay home and you put your kids in 691 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: daycare because you just want me time, there are so 692 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: many people that drop their kids off a daycare that 693 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: stay home. 694 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: I pointed out to you that we've known people in 695 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: the past that are like, oh, yeah, my kid goes 696 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: to daycare every day so that I can go to work, 697 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: and then my entire paycheck goes toward covering the cost 698 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: of daycare. Stay home. 699 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: When I was a teacher, so many of the teachers 700 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: were saying, seventy percent of my paycheck goes to childcare, 701 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: or my whole paycheck goes to childcare because we have 702 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: three kids, and my husband's paycheck is what we live 703 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: off of. And I'm like, so, and why are you here. 704 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: You sacrifice time with your child so that you can 705 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: go and care for other people's kids, But your kid 706 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: is in daycare or in school, or it just I 707 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: don't know. Again, maybe we're the weird ones. You can 708 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: let us know down in the comments. And this isn't 709 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: like intended to be a harsh critique of anybody out there. 710 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: And with the way that you're doing things. If this 711 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: is the choice that you make for yourself out of necessity, 712 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 1: and so be it. But if you're choosing to do this, 713 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: I don't understand. 714 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: That's just me and I mean, and they probably don't 715 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: understand where we're coming from either. They don't understand that 716 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: we don't want we're not excited for our kids to 717 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: grow up and leave and we're not excited to like 718 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: we want to keep that family unit. 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And 789 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: when we all heard that, we went no, wait, no 790 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: one's going. 791 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: To fall for that. It's all playing. 792 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: Out, yes, And so now we're seeing it, we're just. 793 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: Talking about it. Yeah, average cost of a brand new 794 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: home is over for undred thousand dollars in this. 795 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: Country, right they're getting priced out of. They're getting priced 796 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 2: out of the model that worked for our parents. It didn't. 797 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: I mean we were already kind of like it worked 798 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: a little bit for us, but it was a little 799 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: bit more difficult. It worked for our parents, it worked 800 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 2: for their parents, the American dream, but it used to 801 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: be a little simpler. Now people have higher expectations on 802 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: what they think they need. But also at the same time, 803 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: so there's a lot of infighting right now going on 804 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: on the right, a lot of infighting. So the right 805 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 2: was like they were kind of on fire, and they 806 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: were standing up for all things good, you know, like 807 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 2: that I considered good. They were fighting against sexualizing children 808 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: and transitioning children. They were fighting against having boys or 809 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: men and women's in girls' sports. They were fighting for 810 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: the life of the preborn. They were fighting against just 811 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: open borders and crime, like all of these things, like 812 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 2: a lot smaller government, less taxes, healthy good things that 813 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: are pro family, you know, the nuclear family, the importance 814 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 2: of a mom and a dad in the home and 815 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: prioritizing having children. And then it's like, I feel like 816 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk got assassinated and he was like the damn 817 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: that held back the crazy, and then everything fell apart. 818 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: So now you have these huge names in the space 819 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: just tearing apart the movement and everything good that was 820 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: happening on the right. Now it's just ugly and there's 821 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 2: so much fighting. You've got Catholics against Protestants and everybody 822 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 2: against Jews, and you've got it's not like the right 823 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 2: against the left anymore. It's like the right against the right, 824 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: and it's going to tear everything good that was accomplished apart. 825 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: And it's really really frustrated, and it's like, why is 826 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: this happening? Why are these big names that seemed like 827 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: they were on the right track or that they were 828 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: fighting for things that are good and righteous now tearing 829 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 2: it apart and telling people like don't vote, don't join 830 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: the military, don't you know, don't fight for this country. 831 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: Ice is bad? And like their anti establishment? 832 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: How does this tie into Agenda twenty thirty and the 833 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: discouragement of young people was trying to build a life 834 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: for themselves. 835 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 2: So I think if you went to the grocery store 836 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: and you asked older people, like people over forty, what 837 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: do you think of it was easy people. You ask 838 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: them like, what do you think of, like what's happening 839 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: with like Tucker Carlson and all this stuff, they'd be 840 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 2: like or the groper, the gropers. I think Nick, people 841 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: don't give what they don't like, stupid their podcasters. It 842 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: doesn't matter, it doesn't affect my life. However, however, if 843 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: you go and ask someone under twenty five, what do 844 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 2: you think of Nick one? What do you think of 845 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: what Tucker Carlson's doing? What do you think of what 846 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 2: Candice is saying? Like if you you start asking them 847 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: or like, you know, the things that they're being fed 848 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 2: and the influencers that they're listening to, they all know 849 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 2: what's going on, and it's affecting them, and it's affecting 850 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 2: the way that they view themselves and their future and 851 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: what's possible. And when you have the media and you 852 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 2: have these big names and podcasts saying to people under 853 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: twenty five, the American dream is dead. You can't afford it. 854 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 2: Don't join the military because you're just fighting for other countries, 855 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 2: you're not fighting for America. Like they're telling boys that 856 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 2: they're victims of feminism, and they're telling girls that either 857 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: they need to there's two different voices one is like 858 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: you need to go out and be a she boss 859 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: and like forget men, there's no good men anymore, or 860 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 2: the other side of it is you need to shut 861 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 2: up and be a stay at home mom, and like 862 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: girls want choice, they don't want to be told that 863 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 2: they have to do one or the other. And guys 864 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: are being told that there's no good women out there 865 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 2: anymore and don't bother getting married. So then you have 866 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: this manisphere that's popping up that is calling themselves right wing. Right. 867 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: You've got the Andrew Tates and the Nick Fonteses and 868 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 2: these male podcasts that are really influential in the minds 869 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: of boys that are like twelve, I mean they're starting 870 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 2: to listen to these guys young, like definitely by fourteen, 871 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: they're starting to listen to the Manisphere, and they're pumping 872 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: up these young boys of like you guys are great, 873 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: but like the world's against you. And they're telling these 874 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 2: boys that they're victims. And it's like this is no 875 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 2: different than BLM telling everybody that they were victims. You know, like, oh, 876 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 2: you're a victim because of the color of your skin. 877 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 2: They're telling these guys, oh, you're a victim of the 878 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 2: Me too movement. You're a victim of feminism, You're a 879 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 2: victim of BLM, you're a victim of all of stuff. 880 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: You're a white male. You're a victim, and they're starting 881 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 2: to feel that they are. 882 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: So again, you're tying in these social media influencers with 883 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: the agenda being push by the I believe the U 884 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: win of don't bother is what the messaging is. 885 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 2: Yes, you're never going to get ahead. You're a victim. 886 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 2: The world's against you. There's no good women that don't 887 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 2: bother trying to like actually get married, don't want to 888 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: have children. That's going to tie you down because think 889 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 2: about like the biggest names in male influence in the 890 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 2: manisphere word botel, it's not us. No one wants to 891 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: hear from a married I was gonna say for almost 892 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: twenty years father. 893 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: So despite the fact that I feel like I've done 894 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: relatively like well and okay for myself in life, no 895 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: fourteen year old boy wants to hear from a forty 896 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: two year old father of five on a mediocre at 897 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: best podcast saying Hey, work hard, save your money, ignore 898 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: the noise, like start a family, find yourself a good girl, 899 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: that's not sexy and appealing to a young teenage boy 900 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: who's trying to figure things out. When I would be 901 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: competing theoretically against the andrew Tates of the world, surrounded 902 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: by scantily clad w them that are dressed in falling 903 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: bikinis of like, and smoking cigars and flashing cash. 904 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 2: Big watches like they all like do this on their podcast. 905 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: Oh what Meanwhile, I got my sweet Sako dive watch. 906 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with a dad watch. 907 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: This is indulgence for me. 908 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 2: Matches your braided leather belt. 909 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: It was in the budget a couple hundred bucks. Why 910 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: that's my fancy watch. 911 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, No one wants to hear about how 912 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: to be a man from someone who's actually out there. 913 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: Being a man. I don't hear from a dad. 914 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 2: No, you don't. And so if you really think about 915 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 2: these guys, these Manus Foret podcast guys, they're losers. They're 916 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 2: in their late thirties or forties, they are not married, 917 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: they have gone through all these women. Nobody loves them, 918 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: and they love no one. They have no children, and 919 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: it's like, what have you actually accomplished with your life 920 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 2: that brings you true fulfillment? 921 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: But again, so what is your theory. Are all of 922 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: these personalities just paid actors that are pushing an agenda, 923 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: a narrative to to win over young minds because it's effective. 924 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: It's been effective. We're seeing it. All these young people 925 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: are not growing up, they're not getting married, they're they're 926 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: not building life for themselves. There's a massively disproportionate number 927 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: of young twenty year olds who are in their prime 928 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: baby making stage of life, to use your quote, and 929 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: they're not taking advantage of it. They're not even taking 930 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: the time to like walk up to a woman to. 931 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 2: Asking out women. 932 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're relationship. They do all of their their 933 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: flirtation via their their smartphones and that's of course that's 934 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: not you know, a firm foundation to build a relationship 935 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: upon it. It's really interesting, But is that what you're saying, 936 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: is that your theory. 937 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 2: I hate to be one of those people that say like, oh, 938 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 2: you're bought and paid for it, you're being paid and 939 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 2: all this stuff, because we get that all the time 940 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 2: and it's so annoying. 941 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's clear that off right now. Okay, because this 942 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: past week we know seven bought and paid for by 943 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: by by the Jews by Israel. We have not received 944 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: a single time. 945 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 2: We have not received it. 946 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: We have been accused of working and doing the bidding 947 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: of Turning Point USA, which we are not never. 948 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: Received Turning Point. We do not work for them, and 949 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 2: they do not know who we are. Does not work 950 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 2: for a Turning Point. 951 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: Doing the work of the Daily Wire. 952 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 2: Yes, we got that one, that we work for the 953 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 2: Daily Wire, answer to them. They have sponsored the podcast, 954 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: but we know more answer to the Daily Wire than 955 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 2: we do Athletic Greens or racon Earbuds, Like they're just sponsors. 956 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 2: They don't dictate our content at all, and we have 957 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: not actually even communicated with them in years. 958 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: Like hopefully that's a relationship that is ongoing. I mean, 959 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 1: I really appreciated the fact. 960 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: That we too us and this week we were accused 961 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 2: of doing the bidding of Ben Shapiro and working for him. 962 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 2: And I promise you Ben Shapiro does not know who 963 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 2: we are. And we met him, like when we had 964 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: Matt Walsh on the podcast, he came in after we 965 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 2: met him the week or two before, and it's nice 966 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 2: to meet. That's how much we don't work for. 967 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: The Daily Life before. No, but I love the day 968 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: where and it just so happens that that we share 969 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: We're not important, we share the same mindset and philosophy. Like, 970 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: if there's anybody on the tapestry of online media that 971 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: I would identify most with, it will probably be Ben 972 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: Shapiro by default, upon the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk, 973 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: men that I respect and you know not to say 974 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: he's not fair and open to criticisms like, go ahead, 975 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know. I could find things to criticize 976 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: him on myself. But yeah, we're not We aren't chills. 977 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: I guess this is what I'm trying to say. 978 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so we cleared that outre anyway. 979 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: Sorry, back to your point, It's just I had to 980 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: address it. 981 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 2: We should just have likes here, like seven thousand dollars. 982 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm coming here next week. Put a Yamaica on. I 983 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: don't know, Sorry I broke away. What were you saying? 984 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't I don't even remember where. 985 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: I was I asked you about. Just you're talking about 986 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: people who are in bought and paid for pushing it. 987 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: I hate saying that, but it does feel like there's 988 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 2: this sudden narrative and they all seem to be speaking 989 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 2: from a script because you can literally take what they're 990 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 2: saying and they're all saying the exact same It's. 991 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: A massive flip flop on the same day. Not that 992 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: people aren't entitled to change their minds and opinions on matters, 993 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: but when, like you said, they're all pushing the same 994 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: agenda and it seems to be uh, the intention to 995 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: discourage young people. Yes, things start getting a little fishing. 996 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 2: They're discouraging the right is discouraging young people, and that 997 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: is new that never ever happened. It was like capitalism 998 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: and build a business and get rich, like you can 999 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: be rich, you can be a millionaire, like the sky 1000 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 2: is the limit. That was always the story, like be independent. 1001 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: I think the intention is to make them all feel 1002 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: disenfranchised so that they can be swooped up by a 1003 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 1: future savior. And this is happening and it is having 1004 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: an impact. I get that most of us are older 1005 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: and we don't pay attention to these things in order 1006 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,240 Speaker 1: we care. But I can tell. 1007 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 2: You we have young kids, so we see it and 1008 00:44:59,120 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 2: they talk about it. 1009 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: That But even when we've gone like when I went 1010 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: to tpusa's event and student action summing down in Tampa 1011 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: last year, pretty much every single young person I was 1012 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: walking to the Michael was expressing these feelings of being 1013 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 1: disenfranchised and frustrated by the state of the world, and 1014 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: they feel like they're being screwed over because the generations 1015 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: I came before them had far more opportunity and came 1016 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: up in the time of massive economic prosperity, and they 1017 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: feel like they're being nudged out of that potential for themselves, 1018 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: which which I get. And we've come on here before 1019 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: and done the podcast about how, yes it is, it 1020 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: is maybe more difficult. You could make that argument is 1021 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: more difficult, but we push against it. 1022 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 2: There's things that are easier, and now you have. 1023 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: Far more opportunity now. Like I just had a I 1024 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: was going back and forth to somebody I think down 1025 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: on our comment section to where they were like, oh, 1026 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: young people are getting screwed on. No, they're not, because 1027 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: we came in here and did that episode about how, yeah, 1028 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: it is maybe more difficult, but it's not impossible. And 1029 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: the fact that that's what we're telling these young people 1030 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: is disgusting is my personal take. But yeah, the amount 1031 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 1: of opportunity you have now to benefit financially. You can 1032 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: make an exorbitan amount of money with this thing in 1033 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 1: your palm, even if it's just you know, hey, yeah, 1034 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm working in nine to five, but at night, I 1035 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: go and I do Uber Eats and I make an 1036 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,479 Speaker 1: extra three, four or five hundred bucks a night because 1037 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: of it. We didn't have that opportunity. 1038 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 2: No, there was no online anything. 1039 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: If you're willing to bust your butt, you can make 1040 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: a crazy amount of money, especially online. 1041 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 2: Now you used to have to get up and go 1042 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 2: to a job to make a paycheck. Yeah, and or 1043 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 2: you were like on your landline doing Remember when they 1044 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 2: used to do those commercials like if you're a mom 1045 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 2: and you want to make money from home, you can 1046 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 2: do and you would like call and be customer service 1047 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 2: from your house. There's people that did that, or they 1048 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,359 Speaker 2: were doing bookkeeping from their home. There were a few 1049 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 2: things you could do from home. Now you can run 1050 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 2: so many businesses from your house. You can be the products, 1051 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 2: you can create a product, you can ship from their 1052 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 2: ship station, and like all these things. You can make 1053 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 2: a clothing line, you can make cosmetics. 1054 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: Like literally, side hustle games. 1055 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 2: Yes, and it doesn't have to necessarily be a side hustle. 1056 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 2: You can start massive corporations from your home. 1057 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 1: I mean when you were a stay at home mom, 1058 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: you were painting all the baby letters and we were 1059 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: making you know, one hundreds of dollars. 1060 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: That's when the internet was still kind of in its 1061 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: infancy in a way. 1062 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: I got an Etsy page, and that was that was huge. 1063 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 2: He was groundbreaking to me because before Etsy, I was 1064 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 2: selling that stuff on Craigslist. 1065 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1066 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 2: I would post on Craigslist and then I would have 1067 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 2: to chip you were. 1068 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: Getting kicked off of all the Cigslist because. 1069 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: I wasn't from that area. So I was joining Craigslist 1070 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 2: in California and Massachusetts. I would find the richest areas, 1071 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 2: the richest county. Yeah. I would find I feel like, okay, Manhattan, 1072 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 2: and I would join like Manhattan Craigslist and I would 1073 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 2: advertise these letters with shipping, and I was shipping them 1074 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: from Washington State, and then Craigslist woul figure out that 1075 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 2: I didn't live in Manhattan and they've kicked me off. 1076 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 2: So that's the way that I had to try to 1077 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,399 Speaker 2: do an online business. Then Etsy came out. 1078 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I. 1079 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 2: Can make a shop. 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Yeah so, and which 1110 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: which is the message that we should be pushing right 1111 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: that you have, you have this abundance of opportunity, Yes, 1112 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 1: work hard and take advantage of it. And you too, 1113 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: don't have to fall into this agenda twenty thirty crap. 1114 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 2: And don't listen to these manisphere losers that don't have 1115 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 2: wives and don't have children. And they're literally losers. These 1116 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 2: guys are losers. Like they're like, you know, you just 1117 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,240 Speaker 2: have all these women, and like men aren't. They're teaching 1118 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 2: men that, like, you need to be primal and they're 1119 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 2: speaking to all of the hearts of a teenager raper machismo. 1120 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah like that you like you just work out, be 1121 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 2: buffed and have this red fancy car and this big 1122 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 2: watch and no wife. But all these girlfriends and the 1123 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 2: girls they need to be loyal to you. But you 1124 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 2: don't need to be loyal to them because that's not 1125 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 2: the cheese me. Like they're all teaching and while you 1126 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 2: turn to instid their hands, yeah, and then they're just 1127 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 2: like I have no vibe and like you see them 1128 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 2: sometimes when they get honest where they're like, I'm lonely 1129 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 2: at night. 1130 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, bet, And. 1131 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, because nobody loves you because you're a 1132 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 2: jerk and so and you've always been a jerker online, Like, 1133 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 2: no good woman's going to want to be with somebody 1134 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 2: like that. 1135 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: I guess to summarize, can we both acknowledge that there 1136 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: are online influences that are really beginning to impact so 1137 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: many of our lives, but especially the lives of our 1138 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: young people, and that because of that, they should maybe 1139 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,720 Speaker 1: consider doing the Shabbat because then they'd stayff the phones, 1140 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: they wouldn't see or hear any of this cap and 1141 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: they could just live a life of contentment. 1142 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 2: Well, I know, like people that are our age and 1143 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 2: people that are older, you know, are our parents' age, 1144 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 2: might be saying, why do I care. I don't care 1145 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 2: about these influencers. You have to care for your grandkids 1146 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 2: because your grandsons are watching these guys. They are at 1147 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 2: least they know who they are, and they're being influenced 1148 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: by it and their friends or if their friends are 1149 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 2: watching it, and they're all talking. When fourteen and fifteen 1150 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 2: year old boys get together, they talk about their frustrations, 1151 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 2: and when eighteen year old and nineteen year old guys 1152 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 2: get together, they talk about their frustrations and like, I 1153 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 2: can't buy a house, how am I supposed to sart 1154 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 2: a business? Because they've been told over and over and 1155 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 2: over again that they are victims. It's unaffordable, it's unachievable. 1156 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 2: Don't bother trying. And then when you take away a 1157 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 2: human beings will to try the purpose. When you take 1158 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 2: away their purpose, now you can swoop in with the 1159 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 2: don't worry. We'll take care. We got you, mom, donnid Yeah, 1160 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 2: yes exactly. We're going to own these grocery stores and 1161 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: we're going to give you these things, and we're going 1162 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 2: to make sure your medical's taken care of, and we're 1163 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 2: going to make sure that you live in these crappy 1164 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 2: little apartments in your fifteen minute cities. Yes, everything you 1165 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 2: need is here. Don't worry because they've had all this 1166 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 2: anxiety their whole life growing up because all of these 1167 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 2: great influences that they look up to are telling them 1168 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 2: it can't be done, and now you can sweep in 1169 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,720 Speaker 2: and you can control them because they're defeated. 1170 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:54,919 Speaker 1: You're the savior, yep. 1171 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 2: And so it's so so damaging, and that's why we 1172 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 2: have to care as parents and grandparents, because these influences 1173 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,879 Speaker 2: are they're destroying the minds and the will of our youth, 1174 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 2: of our kids, and it matters because they're the next generation. 1175 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 2: And if they feel like there's no point and it's unachievable, 1176 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 2: then then we lose. Like it's lost. Then you're going 1177 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 2: to be able to go in and you're going to 1178 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 2: be able to control the masses by being this nanny state, 1179 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 2: and they're going to welcome it. They're going to vote 1180 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 2: for it, and they're not going to realize that it's 1181 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 2: a nightmare and disaster until it's too late. 1182 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: It's easy to have a really hearted conversation about this stuff, 1183 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: but it legitimately worries me for our kids and then 1184 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: what life in the world looks like when you and 1185 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: I are in our sixties and seventies, you know, like 1186 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 1: what for real? What well? 1187 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 2: I mean in Iran, the Persian people voted for the 1188 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 2: government that you're seeing today. But then when by the 1189 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 2: time it took over, like they it was the hippie 1190 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:56,760 Speaker 2: anti establishment that voted for this regime and then they 1191 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 2: completely were like okay, mass executions now anybody that bucks 1192 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 2: is and and you see it over and over and 1193 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 2: over again in societies that vote for socialism or they 1194 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 2: vote for communism because it sounds good, and then it 1195 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 2: becomes a nightmare. But it's too late. At that point, 1196 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 2: you you can't reverse it. 1197 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to be taken care of. 1198 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 2: But if you thought that you couldn't do it yourself 1199 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 2: and then somebody's offering you the free rise, I don't care. 1200 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: What anyone tells me. I'm going to truy and see. 1201 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: This is the difference between I think people of maybe 1202 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: our age and older versus these new like I will 1203 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:28,720 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes. 1204 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 2: You can program people though from a very young Yeah, 1205 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 2: I think it's I think that's the problem with public school. 1206 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 2: Like I literally say that is the problem with public 1207 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 2: school is there's so much agenda and there's so much 1208 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 2: of like, Okay, you either need to do this, and 1209 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 2: this is kind of the recipe for failure. Kids are 1210 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 2: smart enough to look at the recipe that's being fedded 1211 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 2: them in school going that doesn't work, it doesn't make sense, 1212 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,399 Speaker 2: and then they feel hopeless instead of being taught alternatives. 1213 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, you and I are the ones that are guilty 1214 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: of breaking watching our child and coursing. 1215 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 2: Send them to public school, send them into the cysto. 1216 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: Wanting to build her own home on a family compound 1217 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 1: property and beautiful North Idaho. It's you and I. 1218 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that our grandchildren don't have to see daycare, 1219 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 2: so that they can be raised by people that will, 1220 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 2: you know, love them and care for them. And if 1221 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 2: our kids need to go to work or want to 1222 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 2: go to work, or want to get their hair done, 1223 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 2: or want to go to dinner on a date, the 1224 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 2: kids are going to be with people that would die 1225 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 2: for them, not some daycare somewhere. And I just I 1226 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 2: know that that's not everybody's reality. And maybe that sounds 1227 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 2: horrible to some people, but it doesn't need to be that, like, Okay, 1228 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 2: that's like the polar opposite of like, so there's this 1229 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 2: over here of like you need to be in a 1230 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 2: fifteen minute city, and then there's family sues a compound 1231 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 2: over here in North Idaho mountains. So there's two extremes, 1232 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 2: but there's a middle ground. And I think it's really 1233 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 2: important that we're teaching young people or we're having these 1234 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 2: conversations in our home, whether it's grandparents or parents, that 1235 00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 2: maybe the nineteen sixties American dream doesn't work anymore more, 1236 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 2: but you have all this opportunity and the American dream 1237 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 2: is still alive and well, and young people need to 1238 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 2: go after it, and they do need to be looking 1239 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 2: to get married and having children because that is ultimately 1240 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 2: what is always brought fulfillment through life. 1241 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna wind us on here in a second, though, 1242 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: but I think I think there is an element of 1243 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 1: conformity to come along with all of this, Like we've 1244 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: branched out when we've done things in a way that 1245 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: is very unorthodox, and people don't like that. They don't 1246 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: like when you forge your own path and do things 1247 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: in a way that works out really well for you. 1248 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 2: I think it makes people uncomfortable that the people that 1249 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 2: get really angry about it and lash out or I'm like, 1250 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 2: why are you angry? This literally has nothing to do 1251 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 2: with you. I think it's because they feel personally attacked 1252 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 2: that you didn't do it the way that they were 1253 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 2: told that they did, that they bought in, that they 1254 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 2: bought into, and now they're angry when somebody breaks free 1255 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 2: from that. It's kind of like like they take it 1256 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 2: personally when it's not personal. 1257 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, On that note, are we back in here 1258 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: next week? 1259 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 2: We are. 1260 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: We're back in here next week. We're gonna wind this 1261 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: one down after our day of rest, after our day 1262 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: of rest. Yeah, shalom, you guys, have a great week. 1263 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here once again. Sincerely appreciate it. 1264 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:09,760 Speaker 1: So you hope you enjoy your Shabbat. 1265 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 2: If you let us know if you're going to do it, 1266 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 2: let us know how it goes. I would love to 1267 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 2: hear how it. Bless you guys, because it's been it's 1268 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 2: been good. It's only been one, but it's been good. 1269 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 1: It's been awesome. Do it all right, love and appreciate you. 1270 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. Take care of guys,