1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Love Offering Podcast. I'm your host, Rachel Adam's, 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: author of every Day Prayers for Love, Learning to Love God, others, 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: and even yourself. Each week we dive into meaningful conversations 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: about how to live out the greatest commandment, living God 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 2: with all of our heart's soul, mind and strength, and 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: loving our neighbors as ourselves. Whether through inspiring stories, practical wisdom, 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: or biblical truth. My hope is to encourage you to 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: love boldly, live faithfully, and reflect God's love in your 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: everyday life. Today, I'm excited to welcome Jennifer Duke's Lee 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: to the show. Jennifer is an author, speaker, Bible teacher, 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: and storyteller known for her warmth, wisdom, and deeply bivookal 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: approach to everyday life. Through her writing, she helps women 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: step out of striving it into a more grace filled 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: way of living, one rooted in scripture, hope, in God's 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: abiding presence. In her newest book, How to Love Your Morning, 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: Jennifer advice us to rethink the way we begin our day. 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: Drawing from every morning mentioned in the Bible, she shows 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 2: us how mornings were designed by God for renewal, revelation, 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: and connection, and how even the most ordinary or chaotic 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: mornings can become holy ground. 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: Well, good morning, Jennifer Loco. 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: Doing this in the morning. I'm only slightly obsessed with 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: mornings right now, and so at some point I have 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: got to hear about your morning routine too. I learned 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: so much, like I can't wait to hear about how 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: your mornings go. What's a good morning for you? I will, 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: I promise I won't try to like over interview you, 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: but I'm just super stoked about this conversation. 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: Well me too, So I actually had a little bit 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: of behind the scenes of this whole process in this concept, 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: and I remember you bringing this idea to a group 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: of ladies and we all like this, We've never seen 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: anything like this. We love mornings. Look at all these 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: mornings that are found in scripture. And so as we begin, 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: I want to hear like the backstory, and I think 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: because I know a little bit more, and I think 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: the listeners are going to want to know too. 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: You've been a love there were mornings for a long time, 40 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: but you. 41 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: Actually had a conversation with your daughters, and I want 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: to know like that backstory. 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you that backstory, and then 44 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: we have to talk about from my perspective, what it 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: was like to speak with that group of ladies, that 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: our Mastermind group, because I think that is so cool. Okay, 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: so we'll go back to the beginning. We were on vacation, 48 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: my husband and our daughter's college aged at the time, 49 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: and we got up right with the sun, and we 50 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: had so many things that we wanted to do on vacation. 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: We wanted to watch the sun, climb up the sky, 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: take a walk on the beach, get some espresso, read 53 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: our bibles together. Just we had so many things. Do 54 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: it workout, you know, just all these kinds of things. 55 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: And I said to the girls, mornings are never long enough. 56 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: I wish that we could just stretch out the mornings longer. 57 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: And in that moment, Lydia, our older daughter, put her 58 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: hands flat down on the table and she said to me, Mom, 59 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: you need to write a book about mornings. And I 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: didn't even know like what that meant or what that 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: would look like, but that very morning we started talking 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: about how mornings were this starting point literally but also 63 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: in our hearts every morning as a mom. You know, 64 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: the girls faced hard things in school. When they were younger, 65 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: it was you know, who was going to sit with 66 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: me at lunch, and when they were older, it was 67 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: online bullying or losing grandparents. And at night things always 68 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: looked kind of dark and dreary and sorrowful and sad 69 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: on those kinds of days. But we had this attitude 70 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: of everything will be better in the morning, and not 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: just to slap a cliche on it, but we really 72 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: truly believed it based on what we understood God saying 73 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: about his mercies being new every morning, and that was 74 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: something that we carried then into our day. As soon 75 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: as the day began, we prayed together, we ate a 76 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: nutritious breakfast, we moved our bodies, we did all the 77 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: things to set ourselves up for success. We reminded ourselves 78 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: of God's truth. It wasn't pretty, it wasn't instagrammable. It 79 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: happened in the context of a very busy life as 80 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: a mom and dad and daughters. So when Lettias said 81 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: that while we were on vacation, we began to recall 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: what mornings meant to us and how it got us 83 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: through as a family. And then I began to that 84 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: very morning study the mornings mentioned in scripture during our 85 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: morning Bible time there on the beach, and what I 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: discovered really blew me away, and I began to see 87 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: this book take take shape based foundationally on what God 88 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: has to say about mornings, not about what I have 89 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: to say about mornings or what my morning looked like necessarily, 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: but I wanted to start with God and with His 91 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,119 Speaker 1: word to understand how critical mornings are to the whole 92 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: Biblical narrative. Then you know, it was months later I 93 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: began to write that book. I began to do all 94 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: the things that authors do, tell their own stories, unpack 95 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: the scriptures, so forth. But I really hadn't talked about 96 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: that book to anybody else except my husband, my literary agent, 97 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: and my daughters. And then came the mastermind that you 98 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: reached are a part of. It's a wonderful group of 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: women who really love the Lord and support each other 100 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: and challenge each other to excellence as we do ministry. 101 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: And it was my turn to share a project that 102 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: I was working on, and I shared about this book 103 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: to receive the kind of kind of eyes wide open 104 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: excitement as I began to unpack the scriptures and talk 105 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: about those Mornings of Scripture was so important to me, Rachel. 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: It was so affirming to know this book was going 107 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: to matter, And then you all helped me shape it 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: and ask good questions like what about the woman who 109 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: dreads mornings? What about the woman who is worrying and 110 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: anxious before her feet even hit the floor. What about 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: the woman whose life has been completely turned upside down? 112 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: What about the woman who doesn't have time for reading 113 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: the Bible or in depth study, and all those kinds 114 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: of things, And that then really began to solidify and 115 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: move this book toward what I think ultimately the reader 116 00:05:59,080 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: really needs. 117 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: I can't wait to dive into all of those different 118 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: women and all those different circumstances that you just alluded to. 119 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: But we're going to take a brief break to hear 120 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: a word from today's sponsor, and when we come back, 121 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: we're going to talk more about some of the mornings 122 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: that Jennifer found in Scripture. 123 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 124 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: I'm talking with Jennifer Duke's Lee about her book, How 125 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: to Love Your Mourning. So, okay, I want to know, 126 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: have you always been a morning person? You're like, I 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: can't wait to get up every single day and just 128 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 2: hit the ground running. 129 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: Is that you. 130 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: I didn't think that I was, but it turns out 131 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: that I am. And I know that sounds odd, like 132 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: how couldn't I know if I was a morning person? 133 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: But what I learned is that morning. Being a morning 134 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: person isn't about the time you wake up. It's the 135 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: way you wake up. It's what you hope that a 136 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: day can be, regardless of what's on the schedule, regardless 137 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: of what you carry into the world. It is saying 138 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: I am a morning person is saying I believe that 139 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: God has in this with me today regards wardless of 140 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: the chaos. But I do look back over my life 141 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: and I think about how my morning shaped me and 142 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: how that means something to me now. Like when I 143 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: was a little girl, I wouldn't say that I was 144 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: excited to, you know, get up early in the morning, 145 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: except for Saturday mornings because I loved cartoons and it 146 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: was the only time you could actually watch them. I know, 147 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm dating myself like a dinosaur here. And then when 148 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: I was a teenager and college age, I wasn't maybe 149 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: what looked like a morning person because I was up 150 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: late working on you know, school projects in high school 151 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: and then probably up too late as a college kid 152 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: visiting establishments with neon lights and drink specials, having to 153 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: get up the next morning for glass. I mean, just 154 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, confessions here. But when I got to be 155 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: an adult woman who needed to get in for work, 156 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: I realized how critical having an evening ritual was, and 157 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: how critical it was to have a morning ritual to 158 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: prepare me for a day where other people really depended 159 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: on me. I think into adulthood, I really began to 160 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: live like a morning person, although I wouldn't have called 161 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: myself that. As I mentioned, part of the reason I 162 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: think that we don't call it ourselves mourning people is 163 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: that there's a certain Instagram aesthetic that tells you what 164 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: a morning person is. 165 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: You know it? 166 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: Oh yes, And that was one of the things I 167 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: wanted to talk about because I think that there's so 168 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: much pressure, like I need to wake up at four 169 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: thirty am and I need to go and get my 170 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: workout in. I need to have like those little eye patches, 171 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: I need to have my maudite, Like it's almost become 172 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: so much pressure that's like I can never live up 173 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: to that expectation and go run like a half marathon 174 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: before I even get my kids up and make their 175 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: bed and get them to school and get to work 176 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: on time. 177 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: And look, we're just doing it all, you. 178 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: Know, absolutely, And we see women online and I don't 179 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: want to throw any shade on people who actually look 180 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: like a Disney princess when they wake up. I love 181 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: watching their reels. I'm obsessed. Well, I gotta tell you. 182 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean, as this person who's launching this book out 183 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: into the world, I've had to like be real and 184 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: show my mornings. And I've gotten so tickled at times, 185 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: like laughing as Scott is, like taking videos of me 186 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: waking up in bed when it's like eight thirty at night. 187 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: You know, like if I have the eye patches on 188 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: and if you want to see my hair sticking out 189 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: in fifteen different directions, well then you're really gonna love 190 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: my reels. But I'm telling you, like it's hard. It's 191 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: hard to do it for you know, just like marketing 192 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, it feels impossible just as a 193 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: regular person. You hold yourself up to all those things 194 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: and you're like, man, i'd be I'd be tired by 195 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: eight am if I was like doing all that plus 196 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: ironing my bed sheets all before eight. So yeah, it's 197 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's like, well, then, no, I'm not a 198 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: morning person. My mornings don't look like that. 199 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: I do have friends that wake up at five thirty 200 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: and go to the gym and do all those things. 201 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: Like there are people that do that. That doesn't work 202 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: for me. I feel like I need more risk. But 203 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: I probably stay up a little bit later than they 204 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: do in order to get up at five thirty. They're 205 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: asleep as to sleep about eight or none. And so 206 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: that brings me to you said something about this, You've 207 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 2: got to start almost your morning the previous night. 208 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: Right or yeah, yeah, absolutely, and that's so hard. One 209 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: of the reasons it's hard is because at night we 210 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: feel like we deserve a little bit of me time 211 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: because somebody, as women, people are needing us like all 212 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: day long, kids, maybe if you're a mom, people at 213 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: the workplace, spouse, if you're married, I meaning parents. And 214 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: so at night you PLoP down in the couch and 215 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: you scroll on Instagram and you watch just one more 216 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: Netflix show. And there's actually a name for this, it's 217 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: called revenge bedtime procrastination. It happens when people put off 218 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: sleep and scroll or binge, and it's just a way 219 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: to decompress at the end of a long day. But 220 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: what happens is that you have then, you know, stalled 221 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: your own sleep schedule, and you're already behind before the 222 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: next day begins because suddenly you're not at six and 223 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: a half hours of sleep or whatever it is. You 224 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: still got to get up and be present the next day. 225 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: So that can be one of the hardest things I 226 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: think for people who want to have healthy mornings is 227 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: acknowledging and understanding what's happening the night before. Am I 228 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: looking at my screen until two minutes before I close 229 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: my eyes? This is not good for us, you know 230 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: that how we fuel our bodies at night? What kind 231 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: of rituals are we doing that kind of you know, 232 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: sort of bring the whole energy level down, Like what 233 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: is it, you know, like washing your face, taking your bath, 234 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: having a hot cup of tea, reading a devotional, deciding 235 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to look at my phone for the 236 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: last hour of the night. Whatever it is like. Figuring 237 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: out these ritualistic things that feel sacred, that feel like 238 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: you're doing your future self, your tomorrow self of favor 239 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: is so important to having a helpful, hopeful, healthy kind 240 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: of morning. 241 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so I want to hear what is your typical 242 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: evening routine? And then what is your typical morning routine? 243 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: So let's start there, is it? Yeah? 244 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: So my evening routine is after supper with my husband, 245 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: we do watch we watched the Netflix whatever show we 246 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: happen to be watching, or you know, maybe we've gone 247 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: out for dinner or something like that. And then when 248 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: it's time to go to bed, I set my phone aside, 249 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: I wash my face, I take my you know, like 250 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: some night supplements that I take. Often, I'll take a bath, 251 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: but not always. I have a hot tea about an hour. 252 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't have too much liquid before I go to 253 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: It's an issue, right, I mean, it's something to pay 254 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: attention to. I make the room. I make the house cooler. 255 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: About a half hour before I go to bed, I 256 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: turn turn the temperature down. We know scientifically that a 257 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: cooler environment is better for sleep. I turn on one 258 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: of those fan babies. I turn on a fan me too, 259 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: And I don't do tend to do journaling or devotional 260 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: reading at night. That's more part of my morning routine. 261 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: But I generally, as I put my head on the bed, 262 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: sometimes praying prayers that are kind of prayers I've had 263 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: from memory since a child. For instance, the Lord's Prayer 264 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: very commonly is what I will pray at night, and 265 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: I am quite certain that before I'm at the end 266 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: of the prayer, I'm actually asleep, but I'm pretty sure 267 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,119 Speaker 1: God does not mind. But it's a way of placing 268 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: my cares and worries and the next day even in 269 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: front of the Lord and just giving it to him. 270 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: Another thing I do is I often remind myself, especially 271 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: on a difficult night, that even as I sleep, God 272 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: does not like he's working still, and he will be 273 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: there with his new mercies come morning. 274 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: That's scriptural. There's a scripture that backs that up. Yeah, 275 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: that's exactly right. 276 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: And then for the morning routine, it varies day by day. 277 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: Because I live in a small town, we have one 278 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: workout opportunity. It's not even in a really a fitness center. 279 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: It's in a community room, and that happens at five 280 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, which that is not the time 281 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: that I naturally want to wake up, but I don't 282 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: really have a choice, So I get up at five 283 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: oh seven, getting like literally every second of sleep I can, 284 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: and on those mornings, I am out the door before 285 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: I do anything else, including Bible reading. And I think 286 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: that could be freeing for some people to hear, because 287 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: it's like, well, I'm I'm supposed to do these certain 288 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: quiet time things before I eat anything else. But for me, 289 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: moving is a great way to start my day on 290 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: those particular mornings, and I meet with women who I 291 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: love and trust and that I can be in community with. 292 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: And then I come home and I've been waiting for 293 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: that cup of coffee since the night before, and I 294 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: have that cup of coffee in my very favorite cup, 295 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: and then I sit down for devotional time. I read 296 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: some commentary or some book to help me understand the 297 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: scriptures better, read my readings, fill out my prayer journal, 298 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: and then I am eating a nutritious breakfast. Every day, 299 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: I rarely ski breakfast, and that typically is two eggs, 300 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: sunnyside up. And then it's off to work right here 301 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: where I am get movement every morning, even on the 302 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: workout non workout mornings, because I have a walking desk 303 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: and I work while I write morning devotionals for people 304 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: for Instagram and Facebook. And it's also where I write 305 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: books and write talks and do all the other things 306 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: that we do as writers and authors. So that's my routine. 307 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: So one of the aspects of your book is discovering 308 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: your morning archetype. So can you kind of explain what 309 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: that is and why Understanding how we're wired really helps 310 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: us avoid that maybe guilt in comparison based on our 311 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: spiritual habits. 312 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely so. When I wrote this book, one of 313 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: the first thoughts that I had was that I wanted 314 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: to come up with like a one size fits all 315 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: morning ritual because I'd seen books in the secular marketplace 316 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: like that, like everybody needs to get up at five am, 317 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: Like there are books exactly like that that says these 318 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: are the things that you need to do, and that 319 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: would kind of reinvent everybody's mornings. But it became really 320 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: evident to me that that would be an impossible task 321 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: because each of us is in a different live stage. 322 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: Morning is going to ask something very different from a 323 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: young woman than it will an empty nester. And then 324 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: also we have different reasons for wanting to get up 325 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: or not get up in the morning, and so that's 326 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: where these morning archetypes come in. So archetypes are basically 327 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: like personality categories, and it's based on what you are 328 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: interested in. And you can take a test on my 329 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: website how to Love Your Morning to understand what your 330 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: archetype is. But I'll tell you what they are real briefly. 331 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: I think you'll know right away what yours is. So 332 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: there's the daybreakder, and this is a kind of person 333 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: that's ready to hit the ground running. They really feel 334 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: most relaxed when they have a pretty clear idea of 335 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: what's ahead for the day. So that might just look 336 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: like making the to do list, tidying the kitchen, just 337 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: mentally preparing for a work assignment. It doesn't mean to 338 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: just like jump headlong into work and forget everything else. 339 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: It just means, as a daybreakder, you need to know 340 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: what the day is going to hold. Then comes the 341 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: morning mover, and this person functions best if she can 342 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: get moving as soon as possible in the day, whether 343 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: that's a walk around the block or a stretch routine 344 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: or high cardio workout at a fitness center or what 345 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: have you. It really gets the metabolism and mood going. 346 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: And then there's the meditative mind, and I think a 347 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: lot of people are like, oh, well, then that's the 348 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: one that's really good. That's the one that God loves 349 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: the most. Because the meditative mind is immediately drawn to prayer, 350 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: Bible study, journaling, and all those kinds of quiet time 351 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: activities with God, and those are great. And I hope 352 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: and pray that everybody makes a little bit of time 353 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: in their morning ritual for some of those kinds of practices. 354 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: And then finally is the social seeker. So this is 355 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: a type that wants social interaction right away. That's what 356 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: I also get when I go to the gym those 357 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: three days a week. I am a social seeker in part, 358 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: and I love to connect with people right away. I 359 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: think a lot of children are social seekers. Think about 360 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: how you've got a child that comes out of their 361 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: bedroom and they maybe they want to be hugged or 362 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: held or talked to. They have a story they want 363 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: to share, and they really need to start their day 364 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: with a real meaningful connection. My mom lives in an 365 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: assisted living center and she needs that because she's all alone. 366 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: She's a widow, and she likes to pick up her 367 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: phone and see what us kids have been up to, 368 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: and if we have texted her since she went to bed. 369 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: So those are the four types. And what's important here 370 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: is it's so helpful as you begin to customize your 371 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: own morning ritual because if you incorporate activities right away 372 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: that are common to your type, it will motivate you 373 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: to wake up, so you can build your morning ritual 374 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: from there. If you are a social seeker, go ahead 375 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: and seek social interaction. You can add in other elements later. 376 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: But what is the thing that gives you life? What 377 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: is the thing that says I want to wake up 378 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: for that? Start there and build your morning routine. 379 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: I think I'm the daybreak doer, but then want to 380 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 2: know what are you? 381 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think I've been so immersed in it. 382 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: I can see, honestly, parts of all four in my life. 383 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: I think that at heart I am a meditative mind. 384 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: But when I had kids at home, it was really 385 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: hard to nurture that first thing. So now in the 386 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: space that I'm in now i'm an empty nester, I'm 387 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: able to do that. But being a morning mover that 388 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: invigorates me and gets me excited too, So I don't know, 389 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm all of them. 390 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: It makes me almost think about doctor Gary Chapman has 391 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: the five love languages, and I think it's really important 392 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: for us to know other people's love language well in 393 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: relation to our conversation. I think it's really important if 394 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 2: you're living with a group of people to know of 395 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: what their type is. Because the last thing if one 396 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: of my husband, he wants to go and get in 397 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: the sauna first thing in the morning and have quiet, 398 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: and that's kind of meditation. My daughter is she wants 399 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: quiet and no socialization. Son he goes immediately to football 400 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 2: workouts first thing in the morning at six thirty am. 401 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: And so each of us are different. 402 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: And then I'm even thinking me during the work week, 403 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: I'm different than I am on Saturday. First thing on Saturday, 404 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: I want to just give a cup of coffee and 405 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: then spend time with the Lord. But on a typical 406 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: day busy making lunches and doing all the other things 407 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: for everybody else, and then I can focus on the 408 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: things that I need to do. So do you find 409 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: that even different different seasons, different people, different days of 410 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: the week. 411 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: I think so. I think so. I mean, as I 412 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: have worked through these I see the benefits of in 413 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: some way having them all play a part in our lives. 414 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: But the most important thing is, if possible, if you 415 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: can lead with your dominating type, so I can get 416 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: up and be motivated in the morning to go to 417 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: a workout. There's not much. I mean, I might not 418 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: get up at five oh seven to read my Bible. 419 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: I know that sounds terrible, but I will get up 420 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: to do that workout. But on the other mornings when 421 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: I don't go into the workout, the immediate thing that 422 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: I do is meditative mind. And I think that's exactly 423 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: what you're saying. Depending on the kind of day or 424 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: the season you're in, that's going to fluctuate quite a bit. 425 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's grace in this whole process, which I love 426 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 2: and I'm so thankful for. Well, so, okay, we're going 427 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: to take another brief break to hear a word from 428 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: today's sponsor, and when we come back, we're going to 429 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: continue talking about some biblical examples of mornings. 430 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 431 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: I'm talking with Jennifer Dix Lee about how to love 432 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: your mourning and so I've been wanting to ask this question. 433 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: I've gotten like way off track. 434 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: So give us some of the biblical examples of mornings, 435 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 2: because there's so many for Old Testament and. 436 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 3: New Testament, and I love that. 437 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you came back to this question because 438 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: this is my favorite part of the book. I'm a 439 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: Bible nerd, and sometimes I think, you know, I've read 440 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: this verse before, what else is there for me to 441 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: glean from it? And God always proves me wrong. It 442 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: teaches me something new. So I did study all two 443 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: hundred plus mornings of Scripture, and they became the basis 444 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: and foundation for the book. I unpack many of them 445 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: in How to Love Your Morning, and then more of 446 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: them in the How to Love Your Morning Bible study. So, 447 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: the morning is such a prominent theme throughout the Biblical narrative, 448 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 1: and one of the things that surprised me the most 449 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: was how early on it was the prominent theme. In Genesis. 450 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: The very first thing that God created on this earth 451 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: was a morning. When he said, let there be light. 452 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: He gave us light by which to see his goodness 453 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: in this beautiful world that he was creating and that 454 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: he has created, and he kept He keeps bringing that 455 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: light every single day. As we move through the Old Testament, 456 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: we see so often how people are given their instructions 457 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: and that they're commanded by God to get after it, 458 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: like as soon as their morning begins, it'll say things 459 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: like in the morning, Abraham explains what he did in 460 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: the morning, Moses in the morning, Joshua in the morning, Jacob. 461 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: Over and over and over again, people are commanded to 462 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: get moving in the morning, and not to make haste, 463 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: not to put it off or hit the snooze button. 464 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: I've got to get things done, which I find really 465 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: remarkable about how important mornings are to carrying out our 466 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: purpose in this world. Then we move on to metaphorical mournings, 467 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: ones that we probably know by heart, like Lamentations three 468 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: twenty two to twenty three that says that His mercies 469 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: never fail, they are new every morning. I think so 470 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: many of us think about those verses when when we 471 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: see a sunrise, or when we imagine that God is 472 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: with us in whatever hard thing we face. I think 473 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: about Psalm thirty where it says that a weeping may 474 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: last through the night, but joy comes in the morning, 475 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: like over and over and over again. We get to 476 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: the New Testament and we see Jesus getting up very 477 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: early in the morning to consult with God so he 478 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: knows what he's supposed to do. And then comes the 479 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: sun morning in history, in the history of ever and 480 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: ever and ever, and that was Crucifixion morning. Jesus was 481 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: crucified at nine am on a morning, on a Friday morning, 482 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: and that reminds me that no matter how bad my 483 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: morning is, Jesus gets it. He knows what it is 484 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: to face incredible suffering and hardship on his mornings as well. 485 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: And when all hope was lost, then comes Easter morning, 486 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: resurrection morning in the garden, when Jesus rolled back the 487 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: stone and walked out of his tomb. I mean, the 488 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: morning that really changes everything that all the biblical narrative 489 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: hinges on. And then this one is one of my favorites. 490 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: Jesus is the risen Christ, and he's probably a lot 491 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: of things he could do at this time, right, I mean, 492 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: he just rose from he's wrecked his own funeral, right, 493 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: so he's got some things he probably wants to do. 494 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: But he woke up one morning and he's like, huh, 495 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: pretty sure. My friends are fishing right now, So I 496 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: think I'm going to go to the beach this morning 497 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: and make him breakfast. And during that morning breakfast time 498 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: was opportunity of restoration and renewal, especially for Peter around 499 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: that charcoal fire. And then there's a whole bunch more. 500 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: But the very last one that I want to point 501 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: out is that Jesus is the bright morning star. We 502 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: understand that very well in the Book of Revelation. We 503 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: will have no more night than that. Our world will 504 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: be lit up by Jesus himself, the bright morning star. 505 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: So many I'm so excited, can you tell? 506 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 3: I'm so excited about it? And so what is your hope? 507 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: I know your hope is not just like I want 508 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 2: everybody to look forward to mornings and I want them 509 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: to have a smooth morning. I know you want that, 510 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: But what do you think the difference can be in 511 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: their life? Why do you think God even cares about mornings? 512 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: What can change in the woman's life after doing this 513 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: study and reading this book. 514 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some practical considerations that you mentioned. I 515 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: would love for women to wake up and get into 516 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: God's word, and I help them in this book find 517 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: ways to do that that work in their lives and 518 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: in the seasons that they're in. I would love for 519 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: women to get better care of their bodies. We haven't 520 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: embodied faith Jesus came to earth as a human, and 521 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: he went to Heaven in bodily form, and he sits 522 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: at the right hand of God, the Father Almighty, as 523 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: a body. And we need to take care of our 524 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: bodies too, And that can kind of be an afterthought, 525 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: but I devoted a whole chapter to that in How 526 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: to Love Your Morning. And I want people to move 527 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: their bodies and to do the things they can in 528 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: the morning to just get the blood pumping through their bodies. 529 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: And I want women to just engage with people and 530 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: their loved ones and all those kinds of things. But 531 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: most of all, I want women to wake up knowing 532 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: that they are in this with God, and more importantly, 533 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: that God is in this with them, that there is 534 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: hope for a new day, that a morning isn't just 535 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: a time stamp on some calendar. It is an opportunity 536 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: to love God, to love people, to live, to seek 537 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: His grace and his goodness, and reflect that mourningness to 538 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: other people, because ultimately, being a mourning person isn't about us. 539 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: It is an opportunity to share that hope and love 540 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: with others. This idea that we've heard since we were kids, 541 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: everything will be better in the morning. That is God's way, Like, 542 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: that's his idea. He shows it again and again on 543 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: the pages of Scripture. I mean, I can't even imagine 544 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: how He's trying to whisper that into the ears of 545 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: jesus friends on that Saturday night when they're just feeling 546 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: such despair and sorrow in the darkness of night. I 547 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: can imagine him almost whispering in the ear everything will 548 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: be better in the morning. And sure enough the women 549 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: get to the tomb, the stone has been rolled away 550 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: and Jesus is alive in bodily form. So that is 551 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: my hope, is that they would be able to express 552 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: and feel the mourningness of God and carry it out 553 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: into the world. 554 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 555 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 2: Well, and how we start our day really does carry 556 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: into how the rest of the day goes. 557 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: It really does. It compounds on itself, don't you. 558 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: Think absolutely when we start our day with God and say, 559 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: no matter what, I know that you are in this 560 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: this with me, like you are here in this in 561 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: these first moments of the day. I think that I 562 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: think that we can believe, like if we dread mornings 563 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: or if mornings are hard, that somehow we are failing. 564 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: But We're not failing. We're human. Not every morning are 565 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: we going to be thinking about sunrise walks or eating 566 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: our eggs. A lot of times we're thinking about like 567 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: bad medical news or the grief that meets you as 568 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: soon as your eyes pop open. So for everybody, morning 569 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: isn't always feeling like a fresh start. It's sometimes the 570 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: moment that the weight just is returning. And so my 571 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: whole message is not work hard toward having a perfect 572 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: and performative morning. The messages meet God in the first moments, 573 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: even if they're messy, because it is going to make 574 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: a difference for your entire day. And if all that 575 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: you can do is whisper God help me, I mean 576 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: that counts. That counts. 577 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if this is bad or not, 578 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: and I probably shouldn't a mint it. Sometimes my husband 579 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: are like, we cannot wait to get to bed because 580 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: it feels easy, because it's a safe place, you're finally comfortable. 581 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: It's like, I'm just ready to rest from this day. 582 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. And so I just imagine in our culture 583 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: today many people are probably feeling that way. Evoke any thought, you. 584 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: Know, Rachel, I think that's absolutely true and I think 585 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: that's actually really helpful to say I'm just ready to 586 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: get to bed, because on the other side of that 587 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: is this God, is this sentiment that everything will be 588 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: better in the morning. I mean, it is a timeless 589 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: truth that has like that has thrilled the human soul 590 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: across cultures, across literature, across oral traditions for centuries. There's 591 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: just something about a mourning and how it insists on 592 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: rising up over this beautiful and baffling world that we 593 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: live in every single days when you're going to bed 594 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: and just like I've had enough of this day, in 595 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: a way, you're saying everything's going to be better in 596 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: the morning, because that is the hope that ties the 597 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: whole biblical narrative together that God promises to us, because mornings, 598 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: they're just not a shift in time from night to day, 599 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: they are an invitation to trust that He is working well. 600 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So this season I've been asking all of my guests, 601 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: is there a biblical concept of love that you think 602 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: applies to this topic. You gave us a lot of 603 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: great biblical examples of mourning that talk to us about 604 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: the love relation. 605 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was so intrigued when you were doing 606 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: the introduction for your pod for your podcast here, and 607 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: I believe you were speaking of the Shamah and of 608 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: you know Mark twelve thirty, where it says to love 609 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: the Lord your God with all of your heart and 610 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: all of your soul, and all of your mind and 611 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: all of your strength. So I love, I mean, this 612 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: is going to be more perfect. That's the verse for 613 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: everybody's morning. It was the verse for Jesus morning. He 614 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: would have prayed those very words as a part of 615 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: his morning ritual. And here's how it can be so 616 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: sure because Jesus' words to love the Lord your God 617 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: with your heart, soul, mind, and strength, they are taken 618 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: from that ancient Old Testament prayer called the Shema. They 619 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: prayed that every morning and at night too. 620 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: But as a. 621 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Devout Jew, Jesus would have heard the Shemah every morning 622 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: since he was a baby, and likely recited it as 623 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: he got older as a part of his faith tradition. 624 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, if jesus morning ritual is a 625 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: way of daily expressing his intention to love God with 626 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: his whole being, that can be ours too. I find 627 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: that so beautiful that jesus morning intention to love God 628 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: in that way can be ours as well. So I 629 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: actually built the whole book around the concept of loving 630 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: the Lord, your God with all of your heart's, soul, 631 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: mind and strength. 632 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: That makes me all teary, And what a beautiful way 633 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: to start your day. I'm going to start doing that. 634 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: I mean, why I haven't already, I'm not sure. But 635 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: tomorrow's a new day to start, Okay. So Jennifer, tell us, 636 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: other than loving your mornings, what's something else that you're 637 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: loving right now? 638 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: Well, you know I did allude to this before, but 639 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: part of my morning movement to love God with all 640 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: of my strength is I have a desk treadman and 641 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: it's a walking pad and then there's a desk over it. 642 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: So all the time that I am writing and working, 643 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: I am moving my body and I love it. I'm 644 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: getting like fifteen to twenty thousand steps a day easily 645 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: on this thing. I actually wrote the whole book while walking. 646 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: I wrote, I did the calculation. It would be the 647 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: equivalent of going from the Hampton's on Long Island to 648 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: the US Capitol in Washington, d C. Or another way 649 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: of thinking about it was San Diego to Las Vegas. 650 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: So I covered a lot of ground right in this book. 651 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so when you're walking and working, what speed do 652 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: you say it at? 653 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so I started at point five because I was 654 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: really scared of falling out. 655 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, falling Yeah. 656 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: But now I'm up to three and I think that's 657 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: my max. Three miles an hour. 658 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fast. 659 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: Somebody, If Scott comes in through that door over there, 660 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: I have to like totally stop it because if I turn, 661 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to fall off. I'm sure. I 662 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: don't ever checked my phone when I'm on here. It's 663 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: just it's a safety hazard for me. 664 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: Okay, you can, you can walk and write, but can 665 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 2: you like walk in podcast? Like you're not walking right now? 666 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: I think I think it would you know, it might 667 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: be annoying. 668 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's true. 669 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: The sound quality, well, okay, we talked about this right 670 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: before we hit record. But so the new thing that 671 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: my husband and I have purchased is a sauna, and 672 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 2: it's a red light sauna. And it was I mean, 673 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: it was pricey, but by the time we priced actually 674 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: going to pay for a membership at a place to 675 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: get a sauna for a family of four versus us 676 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: just having one and that has been something that has 677 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: been super transformative for us as well. And that is 678 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: something new just as of Christmas that we are really 679 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: loving and we can all tell the health benefits. I'm 680 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: sweating without moving, does that count? 681 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: I love this. I want one so bad. I'm like, immediately, 682 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: let's wrap up this podcast because I'm headed over to 683 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: Amazon right now. I'm serious. I am so excited about this. 684 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, well, we're gonna you send me your line 685 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: thank to your walking pad, and then I'll put the 686 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: link and we'll put them both in the show notes. 687 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: That's beat. 688 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well, I know, I know. Prayer and the 689 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: spiritual side of this is so important, and we always 690 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: close our episodes with prayer. So would you just do 691 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: us honor of praying for us as we close today? 692 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: Ah Lord, thank you so much for another morning, another day, 693 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: another chance to live, to enjoy you, to share your 694 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: love with others, to be a reflection of the bright 695 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: morning star in our lives. Lord. I pray for the 696 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: woman right now who's just dreading. Every morning she has 697 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: to wake up and she faces hard things. Just remind 698 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: her that you faced hard things too, But that morning 699 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: on resurrection morning was as true for the women who 700 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: observed what had happened as it is for the woman 701 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: listening to this podcast right now. Thank you, Lord for 702 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: transforming the whole world on that morning, and that you 703 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: keep doing that for us every single day. Your mercies 704 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: are new every morning, and we being may last for 705 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: the nipe it comes with the mornings. We're grateful for that. Lord. 706 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: Help us now to love the Lord, our God with 707 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: all of our heart, all of our soul, all of 708 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: our mind, all of our strength, and in this way 709 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: that we might love you, Lord God with all of 710 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: our mourning. Amen. 711 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 2: Amen. Well, Jennifer, thank you for helping us to love 712 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: our mornings. Appreciate your time today. Thank you, thank you 713 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: so much for listening to the Love Offering Podcast. I 714 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 2: hope today's conversation encourage you to love God, love others, 715 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: and even love yourself even more. If you enjoyed this episode, 716 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: please share it with a friend and leaber of you. 717 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 2: It helps others find the show and spreads the message 718 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: of love even further. To connect with me, visit me 719 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: on my website at Rachelcadams dot com. While you're there, 720 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: be sure to download The Love Offering It Calendar, a 721 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: free resource filled with simple daily ways to love those 722 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 2: around you. Be sure to pick up a copy of 723 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: Jennifer Duke's book and Bible study, How to Love Your Mourning. 724 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: A special thank you to Life Audio for supporting this 725 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: podcast and making it possible. To find more great podcasts 726 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: visit lifeaudio dot com. 727 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 3: Thank you again for joining us today. 728 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 2: Until next time, let's make our lives an offering of love.