1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Shammer, and this is the Josh Shammer Show. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Hollywood elites, Why did they think that their opinion matters 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: more than your opinion or my opinion? Why does Billie 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Eilish think that her opinion when it comes to the 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: United States being on stolen land is somehow relevant to 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: the national conversation. 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: Why does Trevor. 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Noah think that his opinion about ice or the imperative 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: to deport illegal aliens or not to port as the 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: case and be in his case, Why does he think 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: that his opinion matters more than your opinion or my opinion? 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: And perhaps even more to the point, aren't there some 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: clear boundaries that ought to be maintained between various spheres 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: of our lives. It is my long standing contention that 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: one of the reasons, one of the reasons that we 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: are currently in the morass that we are in, wherein 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: we feel that we are so siloed into our own 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: political tubes. Go to the doctor who shares our political views, 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: to the accountant, to the dentists. This to that there's 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: deep banking, there's deep platforming in the financial sector and 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: the technology sector respectively. 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: It's all a bit of a blur. 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: Back in the day, of course, there used to be 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: healthy boundaries between such things as entertainment and politics. We'll 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: talk about this a little bit more on tomorrow's show, 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: But for instance, the super Bowl halftime show this coming Sunday, 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: the Seahawks Patriots super Bowl game being played in San Francisco. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: The halftime show is going to be probably atrocious. Bad Bunny, 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: a leftist activist who called himself a singer. These are 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: the kind of boundaries that once upon a time society 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: would have properly drawn. Laura Ingram fundamentally had it right 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: many years ago when she said shut up and dribble 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: about Lebron James getting into politics. One of the even 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: clearer examples of a line that ought not to be 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 1: cross is the line between the judicial branch and political activism. 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: And it's difficult to think here about anything other than 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: Kataji Brown Jackson, herself, Watanji Brown Jackson, who is the 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: furthest left member of the United States Supreme Court, a 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: woman who is so far left, who even Sonya Soto Mayor, 40 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: who herself was an affirmative action pick, the wise Latinia 41 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: Sona Samura. Let's not forget what Barack Obama said when 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: he tapped her for the nation's highest court. Katatibra Jackson 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: is so far left that Sonya Sotomayor felt a need 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: to vociferously distance herself from Kataji Brown Jackson's conception of 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: judicial power in the nation wide injunction case the Kassa 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: case that came out last year of the nation Sigh Court. 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: Kaji Bbo Jackson is an insult to the United States 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, an absolute insult. A woman who could not 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: forthrightly answer the question when asked by Senator Marshall Blackburn 50 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: during her sin Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing back in the 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: spring of twenty twenty two. A woman who could not 52 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: forthrightly answer, what is a woman? Yes, she really struggled 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: to do that. But one thing that can talks about 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Jackson did not struggle to do was to smile and 55 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: to clap and to take part in the open borders, 56 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: anti ice, anti immigration enforcement lunacy that took place at 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: the Grammys this past Sunday evening. She was there the 58 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: whole time, she was smiling, and no one in the 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: media seems to want to ask why why did she 60 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: feel that it was appropriate to be there at that 61 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: particular time. Why did she feel that it was appropriate 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: to be hobnombing and mixing it up with the anti 63 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: Ice brigade? Now I know that she was there technically 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: because she received a nomination for Best Audiobook Naration Storytelling 65 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: for her twenty twenty four members, So she technically should 66 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: have been there. Did you really have to smile and 67 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: like take part during a demonstrably political demonstration? You know, 68 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: the rules of judicial recusal are famous subjective. It's very 69 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: difficult to get clear precise rules when it comes to 70 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: mandatory refusal. The long story short of it is that 71 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: it is typically up to the individual judge or in 72 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: this case, justice to recuse him or herself when there's 73 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: a conflict of interests talking about Jackson to her very 74 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: mild credit, did did recuse at least one time in 75 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: recent memory in a case where she was forced to recuse? 76 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: But if she go to recuse in future cases that 77 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: involved oh I don't know, Ice. Can you, on the 78 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: one hand, sit there clapping like a seal when it 79 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: comes to this Ice is fastest fascist get them out 80 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: of there, modernus Gstapo? Can you clap like a seal there, 81 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: surrounded by Billie Eilish and Trevor Nohen the rest of 82 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: the Hollywood elite, and then be expected to rule in 83 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: impartial fashion about the legality of Ice deportations in a 84 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: given context. 85 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 2: It makes no sense. It makes apptly no sense Toimer. 86 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Johnson has absolutely, in our judgment here, qualified herself from 87 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: being an impartial juris when it comes to future case 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: or controversies that make it to the nation side court 89 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: pertaining to Donald Trump's Ice and his immigration enforcement apparatus. 90 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: More generally speaking, there's actually a long history of left 91 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: wing judges, indeed Supreme Court justice in particular, perhaps making 92 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: these sorts of comments. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the notorious RBG, 93 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: a leftist zealot who became a hero due to her 94 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: being a lawyer for the CLU back during the pro 95 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: abortion rights rally days back of the nineteen sixty ninety seventies. 96 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: A feminist trailblazer. Wasn't exactly an intellectually serious justice or jurisprudence, 97 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: was utter natoity and frankly just outright hogwash. But she also, 98 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: much like her successor now talking about Jackson, Ruth Berry 99 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: Ginsburg had a peculiar, a peculiar habit of speaking out 100 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: of turn. And I think back to the twenty sixteen election, 101 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: when Donald Trump first burst onto the national political scene. 102 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: At the time, Ruth Bitterer Ginsberg said, among other things, 103 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump was a faker. 104 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: She called my faker. 105 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: Who talks like this, She said, quote, he has no 106 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: consistency about him. He says whatever comes into his head 107 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: at the moment. He really has an ego. I mean, 108 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: I think with this, I mean, this would be one 109 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: thing if Rachel Maddow was saying this, Okay, you're Anderson Cooper, 110 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: this is a Supreme Court justice set It's back in 111 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. 112 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: He really has an ego. 113 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: How has he gotten away with not turning over a 114 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: Taxit turns the press seems to be very gentle with 115 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: him on that. So eventually Ginsburg ends up actually apologize 116 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: to this. She ends up saying, on reflection, my remarks 117 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: and response to pressing inquiries were ill advised and I 118 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: regret making them. But she had a habit, a repeated habit, 119 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: over and over and over the years of doing exactly this, 120 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: something that Donald Trump is actually personally quite familiar with 121 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: It's actually not even just in the federal courts. During 122 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: the whole height the apex of the Joe Biden Marrick 123 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: Garland overseeing Democrat law fair complex, when we had these 124 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: four simultaneous prosecutions the two jacksmith led at federal probes 125 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: in Florida and DC, and then the two state local 126 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: probes in Fulton County, Georgia and in Manhattan in New 127 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: York City. At the height of that, there was a 128 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: whole other similar recusal confident interest dispute about Wanmershan, the 129 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: judge in New York City. How could we forget so 130 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: called justice Wan Maerschan. He was the judge who refused 131 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: to recuse himself from overseeing the George Soros Fund, that 132 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg Manhattan DA Office witch hunt against Donald Trump 133 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: on the Michael Cohen Stormy Daniels corporate fraudulent bookkeeping, the 134 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: hush money on the theory of the case, we literally 135 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: still don't full understand. 136 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: To this day because they never told us. It was insane. 137 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: But even more insane if he recalls that Wan Marschan's 138 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: daughter at the time the judge in that case, his 139 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: daughter worked for a group called Authentic Campaigns is a 140 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: Chicago based pro oh Democrat, pro left wing, pro progressive 141 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: political consulting firm, and his daughter was literally bragging, bragging 142 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: in a professional saying, trying to attract business for her company, 143 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: was trading her father's name and saying, my daddy's the 144 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: one who's going to put Donald Trump away for life. 145 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: You should come to business. What how is any of 146 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: this appropriate? 147 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: Look? 148 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: Alexander Hamilton Folks tells us in Federal's Number seventy eight 149 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: that the judiciary is the least dangerous of the branches 150 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: because it has neither force nor wil been merely judgment. 151 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: Is that still the case today? Is it still the 152 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: case that are black robed oracles across all of the 153 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: various judiciaries federal and state combined? Is it true that 154 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: they still have neither force nor wilbom merely judgment? Can 155 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: we earnestly say that about Ruth Bader Ginsberg in Twiny's 156 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: Team calling Donald Trump a faker or Katanji Brown Jackson 157 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: refusing to answer what a woman is to Marsha Blackburn 158 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: four year years ago and now clapping like a diluted 159 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: midwit seal at the Trevor Noah, host of Grammy Awards 160 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: in La It's garbage. 161 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: This was never supposed to be. 162 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: The role for the judiciary, and frankly, Donald Trump's rhetorical 163 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: assaults on the juiciary serve a prophylactic function to try 164 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: to put the rogue judges and justice back in their place. 165 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: I personally have long advocated actually for judicial impeachment, even 166 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: at the nation's highest court level. It is outrageous for 167 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: Justice Jackson to be behaving and acting like this. She's 168 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: already an embarrassment based on our jurisprunence again, a jurisprunce 169 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: that is so so, so catastrophically far to the left 170 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: that even she that even she has been distanced by 171 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: Sonya Somor, the second most left wing justice. God willing, 172 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: There'll be a lot more to come on that front. 173 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: But you know, this week it's not just been actually 174 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: even the courts, it's not just been Jackson. It's not 175 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: just been the Grammys. The very insular Beltway left has 176 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: really been sticking it in our faces this week. Halfn 177 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: They you saw the Jeff Bezos cut about three hundred 178 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: jobs from the Washington Post, roughly three hundred out of 179 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: eight hundred. They cut back on sports, on local news, 180 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: and various other parts. They're going to focus now on 181 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: national news. Really above all, God forbid the nation's the 182 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: nation's capital c newspaper folks in national news, God forbid 183 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: accounting of what's wrong with that? There By the way, 184 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: the folks who were late laid off getting a very 185 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: very generous severance package through May for what it's worth there, 186 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, one cannot help but think back as well 187 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: a missus Washington Post story to the scandal that broke 188 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: just about a year ago, actually during the early days 189 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: of the Elon Musk led Doze efforts. So when Elon 190 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: Musk was going through the funding for us AID, this 191 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties era Cold War dinosaur of an organization, USAID 192 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: at the time, they found out that taxpayer dollars were 193 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: actually subsidizing Politico pro subscriptions. Eight million tax pair of 194 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: dollars that went to subsidizings political row subscriptions for government 195 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: employees there. And you know, these are the same folks 196 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: who turn a blind eye to that and are now 197 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: just really really really really really really upset that Jeff 198 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: Bezos has seen fit to make strategic cuts at the 199 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: Washington Post. 200 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: Look a job, a livelihood. 201 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: We're not going to smile when people lose their job 202 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: here because we're not cruel. That's just not necessarily what 203 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: we do. On the other hand, on the other hand, 204 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: is political prob really necessary for federal employees? Is the 205 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: it's really the end of democracy for the Washington Post 206 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: to cut down as sports section. 207 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: Probably not. 208 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: But what could potentially be the beginning of the end 209 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: of democracy is when you see the judiciary fail to 210 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: stay in its lane. As Lauringram told Lebron James, shut 211 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: up and dribble. 212 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: She was right. 213 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: Maybe we ought to start telling our judges shut up 214 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: and judge, deal with the case or controversy before your desk. 215 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: Other than that, put on your blinders and stop making 216 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: a complete and utter clown of herself in the public 217 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: political eye. Stay with us to the break Fosts. I'm 218 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: Josh Hammer. We'll be right back the other side. Welcome back. 219 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: We are China first here on the Josh Hammer Show. 220 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: We are China first, not Ino far as we actually 221 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: put the Chinese national interest first. 222 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 2: God forbid. 223 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: That is obviously not what I mean. Rather, I say 224 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: that we are China first, insofar as when it comes 225 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: to the royal stage, it is my firm, unwavering belief 226 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: that China is not merely America's greatest threat. It is 227 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: our first, second, third, fourth, and fifth greatest threat. We're 228 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: talking about Iron a little bit soon later on the show. 229 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: But all of these other countries Russia, a Rah, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, 230 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: all these other troublesome actors there are all subservience to 231 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: the one nation that actually is the twenty first century 232 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: analog to the Soviet era Cold War threat from the 233 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: twentieth century, and that is the Chinese COmON Party. We 234 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: are absolutely positively in a generational likely a multi generational 235 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: cold and God willing it stays cold war with China. 236 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: And as if you needed any more evidence to suggest this, 237 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: yet another biolab hack. Stop me if you've heard this 238 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: one before, I will remind you in case you have 239 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: forgotten there with the latest Chinese linked biolab that has 240 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: now been uncovered. Happened earlier this week in Las Vegas, 241 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada. Actually so this happened. It was a 242 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: search warrant from this past week and a residence on 243 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: the east side of Las Vegas. The police received a 244 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: tip that a biolab was operating inside. More than a 245 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: thousand pieces of evidence with quote potential biological and hazardous 246 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: materials were primarily located in the garage, according to the 247 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: shriff from the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. And the 248 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: craziest part about this is that if you can actually 249 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: trace the dots here and connect the details, because the owner, 250 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: the owner of this particular place where these these thousand 251 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: bits of pathogens and biological products, the owner of this 252 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: residence is a Chinese national in the name of Gia 253 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,239 Speaker 1: Bei Ju who get this is already in federal custody. 254 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Fond the discovery of another biolab in Fresno County, California 255 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: that happened in the town of Reedley that goes back 256 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty three. So it's the exact same owner. 257 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: Oh what a coincidence? What I So there are now 258 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: two connected instances where you have the clear attempt to 259 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: manufacture weapons gray material when it comes to biological and 260 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: or chemical weapons. There just to give you some example, 261 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: there you had hazmats folks in Las Vegas who went 262 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: into this garage over the weekend there and they recovered 263 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: refrigerators and freezers with vials and storage containers. And again 264 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: according to the Las Vegas Metro Police, this was all 265 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: quote consistent in appearance to the items found and described 266 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: in Reedley, California. So, long story short, it's basically the 267 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: exact same thing. It's the exact same thing is that 268 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: you find that there is this attempt by Chinese nationals 269 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: to be smuggling and importing weapons grade material and manufacturing 270 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: it here. I can't imagine what they would possible do here. 271 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's not like COVID nineteen originated in Wuhan, China. 272 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: It's not like we haven't had global pandemics shut down 273 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: due to Chinese bioweapons. I mean, what could possibly go wrong? 274 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: This is coming on the heels by the way of 275 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: multiple multiple stories last year recovered it on the show 276 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: at the time of Chinese nationals. Both actually of these 277 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: latter instances actually happening at the University of Michigan. So 278 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: something really really bad happening in ann Arbor, Michigan at 279 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: the university there. So last June you had two Chinese 280 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: nationals the name of Yun King John and Juniyung Lu 281 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: who were charged with conspiracy and smuggling goods into the 282 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: United States. This happens in the Eastern District of Maryland. 283 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: These are allegations they were smuggling a fungus called Fusarium griminarium, 284 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: which scientific literature, according to the DOJ, classifies as a 285 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: potential agro terrorism weapons. So two Chinese nationals charge in 286 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Michigan last June. And oh, by the way, it happened 287 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: literally again. It happened literally again actually in November. In November, 288 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: also connected to the University of Michigan. So we have 289 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: at least four instances now, at least four instances of 290 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Chinese nationals that are engaged in manufacturing, disseminating, and god forbid, 291 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,119 Speaker 1: attempting to use bio weapons here in the American interior. 292 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: Now you might ask yourself, how exactly does this happen? 293 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Are they literally smuggling it in like mos style tunnels 294 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: under the US Mexico border? Is this a cartel thing? 295 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: Or are they bringing it on ships? Are we not 296 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: properly inspecting the boats that come in in the poor 297 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles and Long Beach in Miami and New York, 298 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: et cetera. 299 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: Et cetera. 300 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: There well, believe it or not, it apparently is something 301 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: of a federal loophole where we're actually not as strict 302 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: as as we could be when it comes to who 303 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: actually acquires pathogens and various other biologue materials. For instance, 304 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: Tom Conham Center from Rarkansas was actually just on Fox 305 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: News last night with Laura Ingram talking about a possible 306 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: legal solution to patch up this loophole. 307 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: Go ahead and watch center in Condom, Arkansas. 308 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: It shouldn't be worried, not just for those airmen, but 309 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 4: for everyone in Las Vegas and Nevada and really all 310 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 4: across the country. It wouldn't take much of these deadly 311 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 4: pathens to kill thousands of Americans. One of the reasons 312 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 4: why this happens is there're very limited controls on the 313 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: provision of these deadly pathogens to end users. It's one 314 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: thing if it's a national lab under the control of 315 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 4: our federal government or well established research university that wants 316 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 4: to research these pathogens. But if you're just sending it 317 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: to a home in Las Vegas, there could probably be 318 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 4: a little bit more awareness on the part of the 319 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: providers of such pathogens to make sure that it's actually 320 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 4: being used for proper purposes, not being used for whatever 321 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 4: this Chinese national is doing in Redley in Las Vegas. 322 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: Okay, So the normal viewer, and I count myself as 323 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: a normal viewer, will watch this clip from Center Condon, 324 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: and we're big fans of Center Cotton. He is all 325 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: on top of the China issue. He actually wrote a 326 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: book on the China issue, so he's very well informed this. 327 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: The normal viewer will watch this clip and say, just 328 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: how how are they not laws on the books already 329 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: to make sure that this doesn't happen. You know, this 330 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: reminds me frankly of the Smally fraud scandal. I mean, 331 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 1: just this level of government and competence SMALLI fraud scandal. 332 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: We have been primarily talking about, first and foremost as 333 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: an immigration issue, because that's how I see it is. Secondarily, though, 334 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: a welfare fraud issue, billions billions of dollars in bilkating 335 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: the taxpayer of welfare fraud. And it is very much 336 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: time for the parties to come together to pass a 337 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: second round of Bill Clinton nineteen nineties era bipartisan welfare. 338 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: Clearly that is necessary at this time. Clearly the Tom 339 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: Cotton legislation here is necessary at this time as well. 340 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: If the Congress is not focused when it comes to 341 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: preventing biological pathogens, I'm getting in the hands of our 342 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: civilizational arch foe, the Communist Party. What in the world 343 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: is Congress doing? There remains to this day something of 344 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: a sleepy mentality when it comes to China. There are 345 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: still far too many folks who with rose colored glasses, 346 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: remember those nostalgic days, those days of the nineteen nineties 347 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: into the two thousands before Si Jimping came into power. 348 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: She Jimping, by the way, who's been engaged in massive, 349 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: massive polup Buro and military exiles. He's booting top people 350 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: out of the military, out of the military, a lot 351 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: of previously hand selected people. They're calling it a massacre there. 352 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: It is the most turnover in the Chinese Military Commission 353 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: in the top ranks of the polup Barer based since 354 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: Maozdung was in power. So Shijimping very much, very much 355 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: tightening ranks there in Beijing, making sure that everyone who 356 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: was in ipsition of military power has absolute, unequivocal personal 357 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: felty and loyalty to Shi Jinping. And this is a 358 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: time where we're having nationals here on the interior potentially 359 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: do bioweapons. 360 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: This is a five. 361 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: Alarm fire for the United States. China is a threat 362 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: to us in every possible way. They can be a 363 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: threat when it comes to current manipulation, when it comes 364 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: to trade deficits, when it comes to obviously, to conventional 365 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: tactical military I think about the spy balloon. We forgot 366 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: about that, the spy balloon a couple of years ago 367 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: that traversed all across the North American continent from Alaska 368 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: and the Yukon Territory, openly getting shot down somewhere off 369 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: the coast of South Carolina. 370 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: How about the fact that they're doing. 371 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: Unpresented live action fire military drills around Taiwan. Clearly with 372 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: this shi jinping coalescing around the deer leader. When it 373 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: comes to the military, are these purges. Clearly they are 374 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: gearing out for some sort of likely amphibious invasion of Taiwan. 375 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: Will you dude on the Trump I don't know, We'll see. Frankly, 376 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure that the United States has the 377 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: appetite to fight get another war. I'm surprised that he 378 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: didn't do it under Biden, but we'll see if he 379 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: tries to wait out Donald Trump. Regardless, this biolab suft, folks. 380 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 2: The world shut. 381 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: Down for what a year and a half, two years 382 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: over COVID nineteen, which now we know to basically essentially 383 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: be as harmful or even less harmful than the common 384 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: flu than influenza. But the world shut down. This is 385 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: not even like in our lifetimes. This just freaking happened. 386 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: But we just shut down. 387 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: The world due to Chinese induce pathogens. How in the 388 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: world are we laying this happen on the interior. I 389 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: think it's utterly astounding stuff. This has now happened four times, 390 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: and really California twice in Michigan and now out in 391 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: Las Vegas and Nevada there it cannot happen again. 392 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: This has to be the final stro off. 393 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: This prosecute the full, extend the law, get Congress to 394 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: pass new laws. This can't happen. There is a recipe 395 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: for unmitigated disaster there. Good for Tom Cotton, among others, 396 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: for blowing the alarm very loudly on this. I'm Josh Hammer, Folks, 397 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: tip of us to the break. We'll be right back 398 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: from the sign welcome back. We'll hear one tea. This 399 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: is the debate that is still transpiring before our very 400 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: eyes when it comes to Donald Trump and the Islamic 401 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: Republic of Iran. Steve Wikoff is set to meet with 402 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: the Iranian four Minister tomorrow in Oman. Was actually supposed 403 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: to be a meeting in Istanbul, Turkey. Originally this meeting 404 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: was going to be in Turkey, and they were going 405 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: to be other Muslim majority countries that were going to 406 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: attend this meeting. Every everyone from Pakistan to Katar to 407 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: Egypt apparently had been invited, and the Iranians essentially countered 408 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: to the Wikoff negotiating team and said, no, we want 409 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: this meeting one to be in Oman, not in Turkey, 410 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: and two we don't want anyone else. Want this to 411 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: be a bilateral mono, a mono discussion between Iran and 412 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: the United States. And initially the reporting seem to indicate 413 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: that the United States delegation said no and they were 414 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: insisting on multilateral talks in Turkey, but ultimately it appears 415 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: that the United States conceded, so as of now, the 416 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: talks are set to continue tomorrow between the United States 417 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: and Iran in Oman. What exactly is on the table, Well, 418 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: there are at least three things on the table, if 419 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 1: you believe again the reporting, and Trump has the time, 420 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: it has made this a little clearer than just the reporting. 421 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: It appears that Trump and throws Envoy wicoff and the 422 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 1: United States in general are pushing for three things when 423 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: it comes to two Iran. One, they want an end 424 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: to nuclear enrichment. That is probably probably the most unequivocal 425 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: of the three. Of the three points. Point two is 426 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: they want to run to get rid of its ballistic 427 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: missile program. Recall, it's not just the nuclear program. Iran 428 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: has a massive intercontinental ballistic missile aspiring, but for now 429 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: their missiles can go up of the twelve hundred miles. 430 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: If no longer, they can still shoot these things a 431 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: long way. Look at the war with the Visrael for instance. 432 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: There Trump wants an ends to their ballistic missile program 433 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: as well, whether they are nuclear warheads or not. And 434 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: the third thing that the Trdministration is pushing for, and 435 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: this tears more at the humanitarian heartstrings. In the aftermath 436 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: of this massacre, and yes it was a bloody, bloody massacre, 437 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: we do not know the exact numbers, it's impossible to 438 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: say right now. The conservative estimates have an estimate death 439 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: talent as somewhere between twenty five to forty thousand, and 440 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: that's the low end. There are now some folks saying 441 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: that it could be as high as eighty to one 442 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: hundred thousand deaths possibly there in a very short time stone. 443 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: By the way, it's just horrible holds up. 444 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: So so the final thing that the administration is pushing for 445 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: it tomorrow in this wick Cough Iranian for a minister meeting, 446 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: is they're pushing for something remotely resembling, remotely resembling respect 447 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: for human rights or at a bare minimum, don't slaughter 448 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: your own people. 449 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: How hard could that possibly be? 450 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: Now, this could be on the heels of numerous signs 451 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: that the Iranians aren't particular early interested in playing ball. 452 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: So earlier this week there was a drone. The Iranians 453 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: decided to shoot a drone at the USS Abraham Lincoln, which, 454 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: as we covered on the show, is this aircraft carrier 455 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: strike group that went from the Indo Pacific region along 456 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: the South and East China seas and made the long 457 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: journey all the way through the Indian Ocean through to 458 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: the Arabian Sea, ultimately arriving in the Persian Gulf this 459 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: past Friday. So an Iranian drone was shot at the 460 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: aircraft carrier. That happened just earlier this week, and you 461 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: had a us F thirty five CE fighter jets which 462 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: shot down the drone a head one thirty nine. This 463 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: is kind of the iconic Iranian drone has happened about 464 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: five hundred miles off of the Iranian southern coast. So 465 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: they're not out these showing signs of playing ball. There 466 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: are other examples as well of how Iran is rhetorically 467 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: just not really indicating that they're willing necessarily to to discuss. 468 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: At a bare minimum, they're basically taking off the table, 469 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: taking off the table the ballistic missile and the humanitarian 470 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: talking points that they're allegedly willing to focus when it 471 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: comes to just the nuclear program. But again allegedly, this 472 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: is a regime that has been trying to high its 473 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: nuclear progress for possibly longer than I've been alive. At 474 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: a bare minimum, for twenty five thirty years, they've been 475 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: trying to hide their nuclear program from the various international 476 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: watchdogs from the United States, from everyone who will go 477 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: in there and try to verify this is actually a 478 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: thing that's happening, and try to. 479 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: Make sure that there's not too. 480 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: Much enrichment or this or that there by the way, 481 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: just to kind of reset here and make sure that 482 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: they're on the same page. The notion that Iran needs 483 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: a nuclear program in the first place is absurd. 484 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: On its face. 485 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: Iran is one of the world's most naturally bountiful sources 486 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: of petroleum, of hydrocarbon's, oil, natural gas. Notion they need 487 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: a nuclear energy program is is facially absurd and it 488 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: should be dismissed out of hand. In fact, my colleague 489 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 1: at the David Horwitz Freedom Center, Dane Greenfield, has actually 490 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: crunched the numbers on this as to what the reduction 491 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: in the average price of gasoline or home heating costs 492 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: for the average Iranian would be if iron actually gets 493 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: a nuclear program to what they claim they want. We're 494 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: talking here about fractions of fractions of fractions of pennies. 495 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it's nothing, because again they have all the 496 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: higher cards, so the whole thing is just nuts on space. 497 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: But to get us back to this week, the Iranians 498 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: are saying maybe may maybe we'll play ball when it 499 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: comes to the nuclear talks, but we're not particularly interested 500 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: in playing ball when it comes to the blisted missiles 501 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: or when it comes to our support for terrorism about 502 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: the region has Blahamas, Who the is this that you 503 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: forget that? We're also not really willing to talk when 504 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: it comes to our own domestic affairs. If we want 505 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: to shoot our people, appoint blank range and commit genet 506 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: slider own. 507 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: People, that's our people. We can do it. That's basically 508 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: what they're saying to Trump. Now. 509 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: The rumor out this morning, and this came up at 510 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: Al Jazeero actually, which is Katar sponsored media, so Qatar 511 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: sponsored state media Al Jazeera reporting that there is a 512 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: new Katar, Turkey Egypt proposal for a for a a 513 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: deton and easy of tensions between Iran and the United States. 514 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: And according to Al Jazeera, this proposal is that Iran 515 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: suspends in Richmond for three years and then enriches ranium 516 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: to one point five percent, ron transfers stockpiles of their 517 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: weapons to third country. There's no support for allies in 518 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: the region with technology or arms transfers, and Iran vows 519 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: to not initiate the use of ballistic missiles, which is insane. 520 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the notion that this is like a quasi 521 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: SI's proposal is frankly nuts. A a three year suspension 522 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: of Richmond three years, I mean, this is this is 523 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: literally worse than Barack Obama's nuclear deal. So I presume 524 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: that at the Trump White House they are just laughing 525 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: this thing completely out of hands, because it really ought 526 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: to be definitely, it really ought to be a non starter. 527 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, for what it's worth, saying all the right 528 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: things at this at this time, Donald Trump making very 529 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: clear to Nbcus meet the press that the Supreme Leader 530 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: Iatola comming himself, really should be very worried. 531 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: Here is Donald Trump. Should the Supreme leader in Iran 532 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: be worried right now? 533 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: I would say he should be very worried. Yeah, he 534 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: should be. As you know, they're negotiating with us. I 535 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: know they are. 536 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 4: But the protesters have said, you know, where are the Americans? 537 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: You promised them we would have their back? 538 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: Do we still have one back? 539 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 3: We've had their back, and look that country is a 540 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: mess right now because of us. We went in and 541 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: we wiped out their nuclear So I did peace in 542 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: the Middle East if I didn't take out their nuclear. 543 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: Think of it, If we didn't take out that nuclear 544 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: we wouldn't have peace in the Middle East because the 545 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: Arab countries could have never done that. They were very, 546 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: very afraid of Iraya. They're not afraid of Iran anymore. 547 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: We wiped out those beautiful Beat two bombers ones right 548 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: over there, those beautiful little model those beautiful Beat two 549 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: bombers went in and they hit the to target, every 550 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: single bomb and oh obliterated it. 551 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: Okay, here's the problem. 552 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: The problem is that if Iran is going to stay 553 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: very worried, that worried status is going to decline every 554 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: day to this prolongs. There's been going on now for 555 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: a while. It was initially the first few days of 556 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, in early January, January second, January third, 557 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: right around there that Donald Trump puts on true social 558 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 1: that if the writing regime starts to turn their guns 559 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: on their own people, then the United States will get involved. 560 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: That happened, That red line was crossed. Two weeks later, 561 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: around January fourteenth. January fifteenth, Donald Trump reiterates on true 562 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: social Iranians take to the streets, try to recapture your 563 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: Institution's help is on the way, telling people in no 564 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: uncertain terms to put their lives on the line for 565 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: the sake of basic human dignity because American help is 566 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: on the way. 567 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: He's been teasing this armada. 568 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: This massive accumulation of the aircraft carrier Strike Group and 569 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: the fat missile defense. 570 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: This is that. 571 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: There's been teasing this armada, as he calls it, for 572 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: for at least a week or two. Now now he's 573 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: saying they should be very worried. Okay, I mean, you know, 574 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: at some point, at some point, you have to actually 575 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: do the deed. Now, I defer to the military planners. 576 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: I ask ask to what the deed in this case 577 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: actually looks like. Are you going to try to go 578 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: for the kill shot and try to take out Combeny. 579 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: Are you going to try to do strategic damage to 580 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: the Iszonica Revolutionary Guard course sites, try to do strategic 581 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: damage to the ballistic missile itself more nuclear damage, not 582 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: my air of apertise. I defer to the Chairman of 583 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Raisin Kane, as he 584 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: has known. But at some point here something has to 585 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: happen because the costs at this point, with all this 586 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: talk and all this red lines being just trampled over, 587 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: at some point, at some point, the cost of not 588 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: taking action drastically outweigh the cost of action. American determs 589 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: would be absolutely shot if nothing happens at this particular point, 590 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: Chi Jim paying Lamyir Putin. They will benefit tremendously from 591 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: this there as a president, I love your message. I 592 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: meet the press. They should be very worried. But at 593 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: some point, at some point, these very harsh, menacing words 594 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: will have to meet the full force and fury of 595 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: the reality of the United States military. Stay us with 596 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,239 Speaker 1: the break, folks. I'm Josh Hammer will be right back 597 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: from the time. Welcome back. So the big Beltway news 598 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: this morning was Donald Trump speaking and again at the 599 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: National Prayer Breakfast. This is a summit that he's attended 600 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: now numerous times. Believe it was actually his sixth appearance 601 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: at this bipartisan breakfast that's focused on faith and prayer. 602 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: Here is just an excerpt of Donald Trump this morning 603 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: at the National Prayer Breakfast. 604 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 3: You know, I've done more for religion than any other president. 605 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: When Paula was saying that it was so nice, I 606 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 3: was proud of it. And I said, that's true. I 607 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: told the people backstage what she said is true. Who 608 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: else would say that, right, But it is true. But 609 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: then I said, but that's not saying much because not 610 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 3: too many many presidents have done too much for religion. 611 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: And I want to tell you that certainly modern day 612 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: certainly modern day presidents, they didn't. They bailed out on you. 613 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 4: They bailed out. 614 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: They want to be neutral, They want to be neutral 615 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: or against. You know, the Democrats are against. I don't 616 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: know how a person of faith can vote for a Democrat. 617 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: I really don't. So. 618 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Barack Obama indubitably, undoubtedly unequivocally hostile to religion. 619 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: Some of the other recent presidents for being a little 620 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: famous president for being a little fair, Some of them 621 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: were not exactly. 622 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: Hostile to religious liberty. George W. 623 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: Bush famously expanded faith based initiatives from the White House. 624 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: That was actually a big part of his domestic policy tenure. 625 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: Bush was famously a foreign policy pres mostly, but his 626 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: domestic policy was marked, among other things, by his m 627 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: says on faith based outreach. Even Bill Clinton for being 628 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: very fair here the same Bill Clinton, who I mean, 629 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: he did he did with the with the cigar with 630 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: Monk Lewinsky, and the guy was not that a pious Christian? 631 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: Shall we say? 632 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: And perhaps we'll hear more at his upcoming testimate later 633 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: this month when it comes to the Epstein probe being 634 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: overseen by Jim Comer on the oversec Committee. But Bill Clinton, 635 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: to his mild credit, did oversee the passage of the 636 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: Religious Freedom Restoration Act in nineteen ninety three, a bill 637 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: that was so uncontroversial that it passed the House by 638 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: a voice vote the Senates with ninety seven votes on that, 639 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: a bill by the way, that is actually deemed. 640 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 2: To be controversial today. 641 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: By the time was kind of the gold standard for 642 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: will deliberty protection in America. So there have been some 643 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: other presidents, but Donald Trump clearly, clearly has really gone 644 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: above and beyond when it comes to protecting conscience to 645 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: freedom of religion, which ultimately are the most foundational liberties 646 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: that this great experiments in order liberty is about. You know, 647 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: I used to be of counsel at a group called 648 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: First Liberty. First Liberty is based in the Dallas for 649 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: Worth area. It is a religious liberty nonprofit law firm 650 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: that works on cases all throughout the country for clients 651 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: of all faiths, Protestant, Catholic, East Orthodox, Jewish, seekh Muslim, 652 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. They will take on any client. And 653 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: I love my time being there of Council at first liberty, 654 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: but for presient purposes. The reason that first liberty, the 655 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: organization is called First Liberty. It's literally the first liberty. 656 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: It's actually in the Bill of Rights, the actual first liberty. 657 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: The two religion clauses, the Estallage Clause and the free 658 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: Exercise cause are the first two clauses there in the 659 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: first moment, which is of course the first amendment by 660 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: definition to the Constitution. 661 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: They're in the Bill of Rights now. 662 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: Dald Trump given these remarks earlier today, and he has 663 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: been a tremendous friend of religious liberty when it comes 664 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: to his administration, when it comes to his HHS, his 665 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: expansion of conscience protections, making sure that religious doctors would 666 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: never be forced to perform doctor Mangelis style transgender chemical castrations, 667 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: general mutilations. They will never be forced to do that 668 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: against their conscience. That's just one very small example of 669 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: the ways that he has really worked and done Yeoman's 670 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: work to expands religious liberty in America. 671 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: But there was a poll. 672 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: There's a poll that just came out, the Gallup Gallup 673 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: coming out with a new poll showing that Americans do 674 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: seem to be losing faith, at least in organized religion. 675 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: There So, in the year two thousand, according to a 676 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: recent Galipoling, so this goes back twenty six years now, 677 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: fifty six percent Americans in two thousand said they had 678 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in organized religion. So the most 679 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: recent gallupole that's gone down from fifty six to thirty six. Okay, 680 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and sixty eight percent Americans said 681 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: they belong to a church or synagogue. Apparently the number 682 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: now is down to forty five percent. So clearly there 683 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: has been a decline in organized religion. Whether it's actually 684 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: been a corollary increase in atheism or agnostism, that's more controversial. 685 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: The polling does not really bear that out, but at 686 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: a bare minimum, there's been something of a decline when 687 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: it comes to actually being a part of a formal 688 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: religious community, which I'm a big advocate for. Old when 689 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: per level to me, this notion of spiritual but not 690 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: religious is is garbage and in fact, in my book 691 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: is Rual and Civilization, I have very very harsh words 692 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: actually for this notion of spiritual but not religious. I 693 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: love my parents very much, but that was more or 694 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: less the household in which I was raised. The problem 695 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: with spiritual but not religious is that without without dogma, 696 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: without doctrine, without revelation, without without God, the spiritual ends 697 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: up being whatever you want to be. This ends up 698 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: being nothing more than sollipsism, than the the famous notion 699 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: that you think that nothing exists other than you, or 700 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: you're you're the only you are the only thing you 701 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: can be sure of that exists. As Renee Descardes, the 702 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 1: Enlightenment thinker rim said, I think therefore I am kohito 703 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: ergo sum this. This is spiritual but not religious. You 704 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: are sure about nothing more than you are sure about yourself. 705 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: Because you think that you have the moral intuition and 706 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: that you are capable of deriving perhaps universal rules of morality. 707 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: This is also a manual, famous categorical imperative. This notion 708 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: that you can kind of turn morally inward, think between 709 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: the ears, and that you will arrive at universal morality. 710 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: It's it's absolute garbage not to put too fine a 711 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: point on it. Religion, actual revealed religion is extremely important, 712 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: and Western societies forget that very much at their peril. Really, 713 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: it's not a very trendy thing these days to say 714 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: that the Word of God is actually deeply derrelevant. But 715 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: you better bet your butt it is, because the notion 716 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: that human beings can do better than that is a 717 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: fool's verand fool's errand pretty much every which way you 718 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: look at him. Speaking of communities of faith, I think 719 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: that we're all praying right now. This horrible, horrible story, awful, awful. 720 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: I have Tucson, Arizona, Savannah Guthrie, the host of the 721 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: very popular, long standing Today's show, Her mother Nancy Guthrie, 722 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: has been abducted, been abducted from their home in Tucson, Arizona. 723 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: Local affiliates out there in the Tucson, Arizona area confirming 724 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: that their newsroom has received ransom notes. So this does 725 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: look like a hostage situation. There are ransom notes. It's 726 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: unverified at the time, but again the local news report 727 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: and they have obtained copies of it. Not entirely clear 728 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: how exactly Savannah Guthrie, with her siblings, her brother Cameron 729 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: and her sister Annie said jointly that we have heard 730 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: the report about a ransom letter in the media. We 731 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: need to know without a doubt that she's alive, that 732 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: you have her. And then they said, if you have her, 733 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: then we are open to talking about whatever you want. 734 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: There just a just a heartbreaking situation, I mean, kind 735 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: of frank of the kind of story that really kind 736 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: of wonder how it happens in America in the year 737 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, I mean, an abduction with ransom notes. 738 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and we haven't found the culprit after all 739 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: these years or after all these days, I just stay here. 740 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's just so disturbing, and this 741 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: is a good time that if you are a person 742 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: of faith that you should pray. You should absolutely pray 743 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: for Savannah guth three and her siblings to get their 744 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: mother home safely. So, Nancy gouth three, we are thinking 745 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: of you, we are praying for you, God willing you. 746 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 2: Are still alive and you are safe. You are safe 747 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: out there. 748 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: So really it's just just an awful, awful story out 749 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: of Arizona. And slightly more positive news had a really 750 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: nice time last night in Palm Beach. I went up 751 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: to Palm Beach for the Manhattan Institute City Journal Awards. 752 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: City Journal is the online publication for the Manhattanstitute, the 753 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: New York City based think tank. I've inten for City 754 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: Journal a number of times over the years, seven, eight, nine, 755 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: ten times. I don't really knows outly how I'm friends 756 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: with a lot of the fellows. There a lot of 757 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: fellows I've been having guests on this show, people like 758 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: Chris Ruffo, who Heather McDonald's. A lot of these folks 759 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: are at fellows at at me m I. Last night, 760 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: the City Journal Award was given to Ben Shapiro, long 761 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: standing personal friend of mine, my former colleague of the 762 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: Daily Wire. So Ben was given the annual City Journal Award. 763 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: Douglas Murray introduced Ben, and I have to say that 764 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: the vibe in the room last night, the vibe in 765 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: the room, and if you think about the current divide 766 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: on the right between as we call it, team civilization 767 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: and team insanity, the vibe has definitely shifted over the 768 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: past month and a half, hasn't it. We can all 769 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: feel it. If you're online, you feel and you feel 770 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: that the Tucker Carlson Cannes Owen's stuff has definitely reached 771 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: peak stupid, and there's been something of a reversion to 772 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: the mean now towards sanity. We all felt that in 773 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: the room last night. We felt that in our conversations. 774 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: We felt that during Douglas's introductory marks, we felt that 775 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: during Ben's speech and the conversation afterwards. There you could 776 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: feel this vibe shift happening in real life too. 777 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: And we'll see what happens for now. 778 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: Again, it's just a vibe shift, but it seems to 779 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: me that the idiocy really has reached its peak. You 780 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: see this with people like Meghan Kelly trying to avoid 781 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: all these topics for now. There Grandma Groyper trying to 782 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: try to recover her reputation from where she put it 783 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: a month or two ago. There, we'll see where it goes. 784 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: But for now, folks, it really does feel like, at 785 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: least to me, if things are heading back in the 786 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: right direction. Have a great rest of evening, folks. We'll 787 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: be right back here tomorrow with another episode of The 788 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 1: Josh Amber Show. The Josh Amber Show is a member 789 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: of the Trust Project