1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: I hear you. I get it. Most Americans feel like 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: the people in Washington, d C. Just don't listen to you, no, 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: ignore you, no, actually openly defy you. The Save Act 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: is the perfect example of that, right. I mean, eighty 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: percent of Americans, including over seventy percent of Democrat voters, citizens, 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: we the people, we want the Save Act, and the 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Democrats in the Senate are saying, to heck with you, 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: We're not going to do anything. We're going to vote 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: no on it. And Republicans they may give a lip 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: service and say they are sure they're in favor of 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: the Save Act, but what are they actually doing to 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: get it across the finish line. That's a perfect example 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: of where we are right now with Americans feel like 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: we don't have a voice in Washington, DC. But I've 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: got good news for you. Actually, you do have a 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: voice in Washington, DC, and your voice is heard and 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: you can make a difference. Trust me, By the time 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: we're done with this conversation, I think you're going to 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: be enthused about what we can hand in fact get done. 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: Let's bring in a guy I've known for many, many years, 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: and he does a great job with the wonderful organization, 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: the Association of Mature American Citizens Andy MANNGIONI, thanks for 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: joining us from the nation's capital. 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: My pleasure. 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: Larry. Listen, you heard this set up there, and I 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: want to expand on those ideas, especially with the SAVAC 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: coming up in a bit. But I want to talk 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: about a success story. You know, many Americans right now 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: are seeing that their prescription drugs and prescription drug benefits 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: are already getting better, and that they're suddenly able to 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: save some money on drugs and eventually what those benefits 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: are going to look like. That's exactly an example of 33 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: the kind of reforms AMAX been able to work on 34 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: in DC. Tell me where it stands right now. 35 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: Well, Larry AMAC Action has been sounding the alarm and 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: how pharmacy benefit manager anti competitive business practices drive up 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: the out of pocket costs for prescription drugs over the 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: past eight years, and as an organization, Larry AMAC Action 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: and has launched countless grassroots campaigns. We've held numerous meetings 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill. We've worked closely with patient and physician advocates. 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: We've produced in depth educational content to educate both our 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: members and members of Congress on these anti competitive business 43 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: practices of the middleman. And we've activated tens of thousands 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: of AMAC members to demand PBM reform. And all that 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: effort paid off in early February when President Trump signed 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: meaningful Pharmacy Benefit Manager reform into law. And thanks to 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: this new Lawlery, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: have enhanced oversight on PBM contracts. They've got enforcement authority 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: to ensure that these reforms are real and enforceable, and 50 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: more transparency to monitor PBM business practices. But the biggest 51 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: aspect of this new law is the prohibition of PBM 52 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: compensation for being tied to a drugs list price. This 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: is called d linking, and by breaking this link between 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: PBM profits and inflated list prices, the law removes a 55 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: powerful incentive to favor higher price drugs and will help 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: lower costs for Medicare beneficiaries or saving taxpayers dollars. Bottom line, Larry, 57 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: this law is a huge win for Medicare party beneficiaries 58 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: who will see lower drug costs as a result of 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: this legislation. 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: That's great, and I listen, I just spent a little 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: bit of time and I spent a lot of time 62 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: on my program. People know where my politics are. I do. 63 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: I beat up on Democrats for ignoring their own voters, 64 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: but we got to own this one. The fact of 65 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: the matter is Americans across the board, no matter how 66 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: they vote, were seeing something that was frustrating them so much, 67 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: where their prescription drugs were costing through the roof. And 68 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: then you go to Canada, you go to England, you 69 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: go to Italy, and the exact same drugs were cheaper. 70 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: And we were told by our elected representatives, either in 71 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: the House of the Senate or in the White House, 72 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: when we voted for our GUYE, they said, well, yeah, 73 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, that's just the cost of doing business. It's 74 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: the free market. You know, the prescription drug companies. This 75 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: is how they make money back on research and development. 76 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: It was always maddening for us. And so our voice 77 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: now has finally been heard, right, I mean, finally we've 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: been able to cut through our own political biases. I 79 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: suppose that were held by our own senators and our 80 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: own representatives. What was the difference maker on this Andy? 81 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: I think the difference maker was the fact that we 82 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: brought over two point two million patients to the table, 83 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: and we helped Congress get out of their own way, 84 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: and we joined with other stakeholders to make this a 85 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: bipartisan issue. Once both sides joined the fight, we saw 86 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 2: somewhat of an acceleration to get to this kind of reform. 87 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: See, that's that's exactly what I'm talking about. Where suddenly 88 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: our individual voices, where we feel like we're posting something 89 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: on our social media or we're just you know, screaming 90 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: at the clouds, this is where voices. You know, we 91 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: always hear, you know, special interest being derided in Washington, DC. 92 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: But we're a special interest when voters can actually get 93 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: together and get our voices sort of heard with one 94 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: very loud voice. Is that sort of what you're talking 95 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: about here? 96 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm talking about. There is power and constituency. 97 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: People don't realize how powerful their voice is. And what 98 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: we do at AMAC Action is harness and amplify that 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: voice of conservative American seniors. 100 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: All right, I want to get into that a little 101 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: bit further on, but I mentioned the Save Act. This 102 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: is a perfect example now of what we're right in 103 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: the middle of. What is the status of the Save Act? 104 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Right now? I'm assuming you know, when I talk to 105 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: mature American citizens in this country, Andy, they are terrified 106 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: at the fact that their vote is being canceled out. 107 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: They listen. We all recognize that in an election, there's 108 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: going to be a winner and a loser, but at 109 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: the very least, we Americans should be able to walk 110 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: away from election day, at the very least knowing that 111 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: only the people who are supposed to vote voted in 112 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: that election. And I, for one, I don't believe that 113 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: right now. 114 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: Larry, You've got good reason not to believe it. What 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: we're seeing right now the Save Act, as far as 116 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: the status it is in the Senate, it has the House, 117 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 2: so it's sitting in the Senate waiting for the Senate 118 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: to take it up and to hold a vote. That's 119 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: where it is. We run campaigns right now to activate 120 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 2: our members to reach out to their US senator to 121 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: tell them vote on this. Hold the Democrats to a 122 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: talking filibuster, have them get on the floor of the 123 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: Senate and talk for hours and hours and hours as 124 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: to why they oppose something that you mentioned. Eighty percent 125 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: of Americans overall, including over seventy percent of Democrats, support 126 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: our members are extremely passionate about this. They hold their 127 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: right to vote as sacred. We have many veterans in 128 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: our membership. They will tell you the sacrifices they made 129 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: to ensure that we've got free and fair elections in 130 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: the United States. And they see these measures in the 131 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: Save Act as completely reasonable. 132 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: And so when you hear from your membership at the Association, 133 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: from mature American citizens, where does this rank? I'm guessing 134 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: you guys sort of take it did. Where does citizenship 135 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: requirements and photo ID and other election integrity issues? Where 136 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: does it rank compared to other things they're worried about. 137 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: They put this issue in our issues portfolio. Larry, I 138 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: cannot emphasize enough that AMAC and AMAC Action we are 139 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: member driven organizations. We listened to our members after the 140 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty election. Our members were outraged and they demanded 141 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: that election integrity become a higher priority for us, and 142 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: we made it that priority. We listened to our members. 143 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: As I mentioned before, they hold their right to vote 144 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: as sacred. They want their vote to count, and they 145 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: look at something like only US citizens should vote as reasonable. 146 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: They recognize that showing identification prior to voting is a 147 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: reasonable requirement. And they view purging non citizens from state 148 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: voter rules as a safeguard to election administration. 149 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: Andy, you say you're a member driven organization, and obviously 150 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: you are. 151 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: I believe you. 152 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. When Americans hear that, we've seen 153 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: other member driven organizations, for instance, labor unions or of 154 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: organizations that say they represent you know, this age group 155 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: or that age group, or for that matter, of the 156 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: teachers units. I can't tell you how many teachers I 157 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: hear from that say those guys don't really represent me. 158 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: Talk to me a little bit about that disconnect we 159 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: see and what makes AMAC a little different in terms 160 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: of really representing your members well? 161 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: For long, for many years, part of the reason AMAC 162 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: was founded was that our late founder, Dan Weber felt 163 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: that the voice of conservative American seniors went unheard, and 164 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: he was right. We think, and you know, we can guess, 165 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: but we we believe it. We hear it. We talk 166 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: to our members every week. There we pull them. We've 167 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: been doing this since two thousand, since the late two thousands, 168 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: all right, we pull our members on a weekly basis, 169 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: and we listen to what they have to say, We 170 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: read their comments. They call us and they tell us. 171 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: We think that perhaps one of the reasons we're so 172 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: popular is because we have, you know, former union members. 173 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: We've got former teachers as members. They've been burned before, 174 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: and they respond to a member driven organization. And we've 175 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: always emphasized throughout the entire I mean, we were founded 176 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, we went national in two 177 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: thousand and nine, and we have been held accountable for 178 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: our members by our members ever since. And they know 179 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: that and it's empowering. 180 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: Wow, it's amazing that it's amac is less than two 181 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: decades old, considering how fast you've grown and what an 182 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: important voice you've got in Washington, DC. I can tell 183 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: people firsthand. I know that members of Congress listen to 184 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: you guys when you call or when you knock on 185 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: the door. Andy, what do you say to people, especially 186 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: seniors or people who are about to be seniors? Maybe 187 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: you know Gen Xer's late forties, early fifties, who feel 188 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: like they don't have a voice, who feel like that 189 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: they're not being listened to anymore because you hear so 190 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: much about you know, it's Gen Z and millennials who 191 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: are the most important political constituents. I still think Gen 192 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: X is pretty important here. What do you say to 193 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: them in terms of how important their voice is and 194 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: how important their issues are in Washington, DC, if funneled 195 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: properly to the right ears. 196 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think we take a sincere approach and we 197 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: demonstrate our past victories in the past to let them 198 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: know that there are strengthened numbers, that you are not alone. 199 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: You're probably what people call a you know, when they 200 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: refer to the dinosaur media as the mainstream media. I 201 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: don't necessarily agree with that laric, because it's people like 202 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: you and I who are in the mainstream. And we 203 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 2: tell those people who may have a cylical point of 204 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: view because they feel that their voice isn't being heard, 205 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: that we can make that voice be heard, and we 206 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: can generate results, and we share those results with them. 207 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: And actually I've also been reading about what AMAC and 208 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: AMAC Action has been doing. Obviously, you've got an influential 209 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: and important voice, but you also have coalitions, don't you. 210 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: You're able to work with other groups that where you 211 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: have common cause. In fact, if you can expand a 212 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: little bit, I've got a lot of friends who are 213 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: in the leadership of Independent Women's Forum, and you talk 214 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: about an issue that's important to people in my age group, 215 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: especially fathers like me. I want to make sure that 216 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: our little girls are protected and that our gender roles 217 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: are defined properly and based on fact and science. That's 218 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: now become an amag issue, and you're working with the 219 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: great team at IWF on that. 220 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: Well. Actually, absolutely, I've been working with independent women and 221 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: we've taken up an issue with them with regard to 222 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: in home elder care. Oh and to make it accessible. 223 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, tell me more about that. That's see. I 224 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: knew that you were working with iw but I just 225 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: thought it had to do with the women's sports and 226 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: all of those things. 227 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: We've been involved in. Parent I'm sorry, Larry, we've been 228 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: involved in parental rights, make no mistake, all right. But 229 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: what we've done we're in a collaborative effort right now. 230 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: And let me just paint a picture for you if 231 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: I could. In home elder care costs have risen three 232 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 2: times faster than the rate of inflation, and by the 233 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 2: year twenty thirty, there's going to be over seventy three 234 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: million Americans who are over the age of sixty five. 235 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: Yet we're still dealing with federal rules that have made 236 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: legal affordable senior care increasingly out of reach. So what 237 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: we've done, We've joined with independent Women to raise awareness 238 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,479 Speaker 2: about this caregive Me crisis, and we launched a collaborative 239 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: project called Aging at Home and Living with Dignity. The 240 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: whole purpose here for the Strategic Partnership is to elevate 241 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: real life senior caregiving experiences, build freedom for seniors, and 242 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: advance policy reforms that expand freedom and choice to make 243 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: to make aging in place more in reach for every family. 244 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: And we're thrilled to be working them on this issue. 245 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: All right, Andy MANNGIONI my exit question for you here. 246 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: Let's bring it back to the Save Act. What's going 247 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: to happen? What's the endgame here? You're right there, you're 248 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: in the trenches. You're fighting the fight. You're in DC 249 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: right now. I can tell by the yes, by the 250 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: architecture behind you. So you're probably about to go knock 251 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: on some more doors as senators saying get this done? 252 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: Is it going to get done? 253 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: That's a very very good question. Okay, it all depends. 254 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: It's in the hands of a centain majority of leadership. 255 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: Let me tell you what we're doing. Everything we can 256 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: we're asking for leadership in the Senate to bring this 257 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: to a vote. This is wildly populator, I'm sorry popular. 258 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: We are minding us the US Senate how popular this is. 259 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: We are using words like will of the people. This 260 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: is what the people want. There is no political fallout 261 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: from passing legislation like this in terms of what you know, 262 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: accountability with the general public. Because the general public wants 263 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: that we are reinforcing that message. We are asking our 264 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: AMAC members who are their constituents to reinforce that message 265 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: as well. And that's a pretty powerful thing. 266 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: AMAC Association and Mature American Citizens AMACH. It couldn't be easier. 267 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: A MAC and the good luck as you make the 268 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: rounds there in the capital and tell Leader Thoms that 269 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: time